/v/ - Video Games

>>15330730

Can't wait

Gtx 1080 and Vega 56 + 2700x here never need to buy a new gpu ever again I'm sick of this shit

>more than $400 for a high-end GPU

AHAHAHAH

When taxes on the high end go back to what they were. Might be anywhere from 6 to maybe 20 years, who knows. All that is certain is that we're living in the most blatant economic bubble in human history and nobody is talking about it.

>>15330777 (checked)

I keep hearing this said on here but I'm not seeing it. Wouldn't economists be talking about it, especially since its the easiest shit to pin on Trump?

>>15330796

There's constant talk about companies having inflated share prices but nobody really gives a shit because any economist with integrity has either been killed or fired and if they screeched about Trump they knew nobody would listen to them.

Can't wait for there to, one, not be any games that use the power of this card in substantial ways, and two, for there to be no worthwhile new games to play anyway.

>>15330796

he's been making it easier for an economic bubble or reccision but i don't think it'll happen anytime soon.

>>15330809

They literally have nothing to show

They teased this tech for years and even the early 2018 demo's where so lacklustre every damn demo only pushes shitty reflections when the real improvement is in lighting and shadows (notice how there isn't a single game that has this right now or demo for rtx?)

Very fucking fishy and a anon on tech pointed this out

>It's fake anyway. It won't work in games as if your back is to the light source it will be culled and can't light the room. Or if a game is modified to support the tech and tries to render a simplified light/model behind the player when the geometry is culled then all the lighting will dramatically shift when not bouncing off the same geometry. Games that want it to look right will have to disable frustum culling and take an absolutely massive performance hit.

They presented this shit as simple as "flick a switch" but it absolutely will not work that way in reality.

>>15330958

It's dx10 all over again and we know how that went.

>Nearly 2 grand for both cards

that can't be right, that can't be fucking right.

>>15330808

You just reminded me, I need to expand my emergency kit. It's only really suitable for basic disaster prep, not even good enough for a week let alone Siege of Sarajevo shit.

Relax, those are upside-down dollars. It'll probably be half as much in real money.

Those are Nvidia FE cards, they did the same with Pascal. Basically it's an impatience tax. The real prices are going to be $1,200 for the 2080ti, so basically they just slid every card up a pricing notch.

2080tis sell for around $1,200 like the Titan Xp

2080s sell for around $800 like 1080tis

2070s sell for around $500 1080s

etc etc.

Hopefully the graphics card Intel is releasing in 2019 or 2020 will be good.

>>15331059

Try to find a used 1080ti for cheap that some amateur miner drove into the ground lol

>>15331052

>Hopefully the graphics card Intel is releasing in 2019 or 2020 will be good.

<Intel will jew us worse then AMD and Nvidia ever could

>>15331063

God damn I want to fuck her bloody neck hold and then cum on her abs.

>>15331081

That's what you want, two jews having a battle over your shekels. That's how prices get lowered and the technology gets better as they keep trying to one up each other.

>>15331096

I'm not unhappy that we'll have a third GPU creator it's just (((intel))) are fucking kikes who've done some real horseshit.

>>15331086

i can dig it

>>15330716

>>15330730

I think the problem is the devs who can't optimize their game, not the graphic cards.

>>15331059

I'm just going to see if I can get a pascal card for cheap when everyone is buying the new cards.

>>15331125

It's probably both recursively.

>>15331125

>can't

They just don't. Why bother when you can just rely on the 'master race' throwing 10 times the hardware at a shitty console port?

>>15331125

>I think the problem is the devs who can't optimize their game

Jesus you aren't fucking wrong, most devs don't optimize their shit at all.

>>15331104

Intel has been trying to make competitive GPUs for decades. Their last attempt failed so hard they gave up on it being a GPU and just made it Xeon Phi as a generic accelerator card, which went on to fail like that. Intel hired the guy responsible for AMD's current GPU position right now, the guy behind AMD Vega. If you think Intel is ever going to be a viable competitor to AMD or Nvidia GPUs you are on crack.

>>15331161

Why would they? Who buys a shitty game that's well optimized? People buy good games that are poorly optimized all the time.

>>15331161

This.

Dx12 was fucking useless on pascal

Vulkan wasn't much better now they have gone and added more useless shit like rtx which everyone will forget come 202x when it's fucking standard across amd Intel and nvidias 7nm cards

Anyone dumb enough to jump into this early is just getting ripped off

I doubt these cards are worth the money and 1000usd for a mainstream gaming high end gpu is insane

>muh ram shortages

Oh fuck off this card got delayed 6 months and they still are overcharging like fuck a 2x increase from the 680 5 years ago

Nope I'm done with gaming until vr and quality of games improves I'm just gonna sit this one out

normalfags aren't even gonna care about this shit and just stick to console mobile crap and fortnite.

Nvidia are once again just fleecing dumb gayer faggots.

Only real reason to get one of these is 3d cgi and workstations

>>15331166

>Intel is ever going to be a viable competitor

I have no faith in them whatsoever

>>15331161

I worked on a fairly popular game during the dev cycle a few months back and "optimization" was doing nothing until the last 2 weeks before release then just slashing parts of levels that were slow. Most of it wasn't even done by the art team, it was the programming team butchering the map rather than optimize the code.

>>15331139

Of course it's both, but the devs are more sinful than the hardware creators. It's the devs who form the gaming industry, not graphic cards manufacturers. Their games gradually demand higher and higher performance due to the lack of optimization despite the higher complexity of modern hardware architecture, deeming low end and middle end cards useless.

>>15331205

What game.

>>15330716

Isn't it the cryptokike farmers fault for inflating the prices of GPUs?

>>15331235

Yes and just Nvidia being greedy cunts too.

>>15331235

Lack of competition from amd

Vega was a year late and slower overall

Gddr6 shortages (bullshit)

Dumb minerscum and cashed up retarded PR0GAYMERS buying this shit

>>15331245

FUCKING LIES THE GTX 680 WAS 500USD T YEARS AGO SHILL CUNT FUCK OFF

>>15331245

She's good. She makes a good Sans cosplayer

>>15331228

Is a sekrit, but it's in steam's "best of 2017". I don't usually work on games so I'm not sure if it's the same everywhere but the art team just bent over and took it like it's a normal thing in the industry.

>>15331265

Heh I had a 9600 128mb

Rocked that fucker till 2006

>>15331252

Yeah, I paid about $500 for my GTX 680 like a bit more than half a decade ago. Still don't have any issues playing anything with reasonably high settings.

>>15331279

but thats illegal!

>>15331328

That's because we've hit the wall in terms of what can be done in real time

I seriously doubt these new cards will make a significant difference to the avg visuals in games.

RTX reflections are a gimmick and the lighting system will flat out not work with more than one light source especially if it's out of the players view

I really hope amd come up with something worthwhile in the future because this is bullshit

500usd for a midrange card

>>15331276

Lawbreakers obviously.

>>15331260

>monopoly

Amazing how you fags keep using this word wrong.

>>15330809

/thread

OP may as well have posted the newest iphone.

>>15331328

>>15331328

>GTX 680

>don't have any issues playing anything with reasonably high settings

You're a lying bastard and you know it. Unless all you're playing are 2D games like Factorio and Stardew Valley, that is.

>>15331626

>cpu graphics

What games are you playing?

>>15331626

Marketers and to make the games they advertise look better than they will on 90% of people's rigs respectively.

>>15331630

fucking sim tower

>>15331126

>Intel has do bring good gpus to the customer market but 2020 is just the time they bring them to companies.

Why the fuck would you buy anything from a jewish company?

>>15331649

lol i meant 899 and we donteven get free shipping ahhahahah

>>15331630

anything up to mid 00s seems to work perfectly fine. Afterwards you can throw in some compromises or lower the resolution and it'll still work fine. I try to play newer games occasionally but there's very little to choose from. If I do play something newer its terraria or some shit and you don't need anything to run that game smoothly

>>15331644

they shouldnt be charging 599usd for a fucking midrange card faggot

>>15331662

A lot of older games could run on anything.

>>15331669

Remember when mid range was 200$?

Wheres that faggy anon who tried to tell me RTRT was worth it. You fucking jewish fuck. I told you nvidia was botnet tier junk. I hope you burn in an oven

>>15331669

it's a new card you fucking retard, of course they are going to milk it.

also the gtx 20 series are actually gtx 1080 that are rebranded and upgraded slightly.

>>15331683

meanwhile amd and nvidia used to charge $200-300usd for midrange

stop moving goalposts

>>15331686

that was before they had over 1 million in stock gtx 1080's, tried to jew their customer base by pandering to miners and claiming graphics cards were never about video games.

>>15331676

>A lot of older games could run on anything.

yeah I suppose you're right. The card I have seems to run everything at fairly high settings though so I'm just left scratching my head why people would bother. You'd either need some extremely specific needs to validate this kind of ridiculous purchase otherwise you're throwing your money into the dumpster. That "need" to run every game at the absolute highest settings is probably what drives some of those sales but the diminishing returns to graphics in modern vidya to me feels massive.

>>15331702

i have a gtx 460 768 mb ram and i still run games just fine.

my 1gb card artifacted on me.

ive been wanting to buy a 1080 but the prices are insane.

>>15331707

I think a 1060 or AMD equivalent would suit you better.

>>15331707

u dun goofed by waiting and not picking one up cheap for 500usd or less

i got mine during the peak of the mining boom for 719aud shipped

>>15331732

i have a 1080p monitor and upscale to 2560x1440, and when i game i go back to 1080x1920

>>15331732

I've had my cards since 2014 and I don't plan on changing them till 2019 and that's only because of workstation purposes.

>>15331732

its literally just the same fucking card over and over with MOAR COREZ

>only one game is confirmed with raytracing

OUCH

>>15331796

The comic sans is a nice touch.

I watched a bit of the Twitch stream before I went to bed. Mostly just the per-reveal shit because it started at 2am for me.

All those soyboys in the audience, sperging out over a graphics card reveal.

It looked identical to a apple launch crowd.

>$1200-2000 USD for a card

Yeh it's all coming together now.

This plus all the forced botnet shit with their software now, It's hard to keep supporting jewvidia.

>>15331770

God no

I can't wait for all the people buying into the raytracing hype to buy one of these cards and get upset that it doesn't work in all their games.

>>15331186

I got a 1060 for 200 (before the bitcoin mining freak-out) and plays all vr games just great. i've yet to find anything it can't handle and i'm playing it at stock clocks. if I really need to I can OC it to almost 1070 performance. but i've had no reason to do so. most new games run great at high/ultra settings 1080p60+. and older stuff I can usually run @4k60

>>15331166

>>15331195

I think we need to give Intel a shot. They have their own manufacturing getting ready to pump out 10nm CPUs next year. With nearly unlimited money and their own manufacturing they might be able to make a good GPU.

And you really cant count AMD out just yet, if they come out with a multi chip GPU like they do with Ryzen and Threadripper it will give them a massive advantage over Nvidia especially on newer manufacturing nodes with poor yield like 7nm and 5nm.

>>15331899

I should add that AMD's main problem has always been being seen as second banana to Intel or Nvidia, even when they had the clearly better products. Both Intel and Nividia have a long history of using underhanded tricks against AMD so I'm surprised they're still around, let alone kicking ass with a brand new CPU architecture.

>>15331732

What is that condition called?

>>15331830

Nioh, Automata, DOS2, Cemu emulator if you want 4k downsampling for AA or have 4k display.

I don't remember if my card starts with a 6 or a 7.

Probably can't play shit nowadays but new games suck anyway

>>15331963

we get it mate your old

i dont play anything regularly thats newer than 2015

>>15331994

>Funding a Jewish company

You sure won wow

>>15331920

> Cemu emulator if you want 4k downsampling for AA or have 4k display.

bullshit, you can do 4K just fine with the performance level of a 780.

As for Automata, it is terribly optimized but a 970 can do stable 60 fps on max settings @ 1080p with the fix mod, Nioh is less demanding than that.

>>15331994

how cute

>>15330796

Peter (((Schiff))) talks about it.

>>15330716

2070 is 500 bucks and faster than a fucking titan xp.

SO if you dont have money get that fagtron. Thats why it exists. For people who dont want to spend $1000.

>>15332071

Who the fuck is gonna buy a 1000usd gpu? Mining on gpus is dead now

>>15332095

You're acting as if this is the only product Nvidia puts out, or that there aren't other GPU manufacturers

Even if Nvidia's stock price took a nosedive tomorrow all that would happen is you'd see Intel/AMD rise up and take its place, and maybe some other Chinese corporation try to muscle in. Nvidia releasing some really expensive GPU is exactly the same as Logitech releasing a really expensive keyboard. It doesn't change the fact that they also make 20$ ones and that they have tons of competition.

The original gaming crash of the 1980s was caused entirely because parents had no idea what video game systems to buy because of an influx of clone systems. Which isn't the case today there's usually only 1-2 brands people tend to go for. And most people who purchase these products do it for themselves and have ample amounts of research available to them online.

>>15331784

No shit. Why would anyone make a game that maybe 1% of the potential audience will be able to run?

>>15332114

I assume it is a option not a requisite, these reflections won't make me shed an extra $300 of what i would normally pay for the latest ngudgoy card, plus if games start making everything mirror polished shit's gonna look bad, it will be bloom 2.0

>>15330796

>what is social security

that's one ponzi scheme, pretty sure Federal Reserve is kiked too

>>15331260

Both Intel and nVidia keep AMD on life support precisely so that they aren't monopolies. The real way to break situations like these is to remove all the laws that protect existing companies from competition.

>when you realize all the mustards who shilled for PC and steam years ago caused massive influx of graphics whored and in turn massive demand for high end gpus

>>15331784

>only one game can make use of this technology that's only really supported by a piece of hardware that hasn't even released yet

>>15331161

Yeah no shit. But hey, when Nioh came out on PC I posted in the Nioh threads how it was unoptimized bloated garbage because it had stuttering even in the menus due to being too CPU intensive, even in the menus, and faggots told me to upgrade my CPU which isn't significantly outdated.

>>15332164

Ray tracing isn't new tech, Nvidia is just releasing a card that is engineered to make all the calculations involved in ray tracing faster. Put as bullet in your head and go back to cuckchan faggot.

>>15332218

Bitcoin isn't going to last much longer anon, and after it dies the other memecoins will hopefully die with it.

I can't wait to line up to buy a $1200 card to play console ports at the same graphics quality but with shinier water. Take my money and my wife!

Is there a gas leak or something? I swear everyone seems dumber than usual. Like, for about a month.

>>15332222

Doubtful. While the exact value and coin type is up in the air, cryptocurrency is too valuable to black market shit to actually disappear. Not without a suitable replacement and I don't see that happening.

>>15332226

and dont forget worse performance when run in rtx mode, none of this gimpworks crap comes free, shadows ao and lighting literally look no different.

This "holy grail" of realtime raytrace IN GAMES is fucking useless i can see why nvidia held off for so long i literally cant see the difference

>>15331649

>dynamic lighting is now R A Y T R A C I N G

fuck me

>>15332230

Blockchain size is unsustainable though.

>>15332233

MY PROBLEM with all this shit is that it doesnt look significantly better and literally 3/4 of the card is actually useless for gaming especially for older games.

only thing that looks good is RT ao and the aa but thats it the rest is fucking USELESS

>>15331899

>I think we need to give Intel a shot

I'm going to purchase an AMD Vega card because of this comment.

>>15330808

It won't be just a gaming crash. The financial crisis of 2008 has never been really resolved, and we've been living on borrowed time since then.

The moment shtf gaming will be the least of our probelms.

>>15330716

Who the fuck is going to pay workstation dollars for a gaymen gpu except the highest tier of soyim, streamers?

>Australian dollars

What's the conversion rate to real money?

>>15332449

They're aimed at suckers.

>>15330796

Actually yeah I'm honestly surprised its not talked about, not so much the Trump link but rather Crypto which scared them more

Only Musk scares them more

>australian

It's $500, $700, and $1000 US for the 2070, 2080, and 2080ti respectively.

>>15332471

nvidia are selling the founders edition for $1200 US

>>15332498

nobody cares goblino

>>15332522

.gifs were mistake.

>nvidia reveals new cards with ray tracing

>ray tracing will be under some nvidia copyright driver/hardware

>give AMD about a year or so and they'll have similar tech as well as it being open source

>and their ray tracing tech can be used on relatively older cards

>>15332574

>no goym! you NEED the 2000 buackaroonie card! best buy two of them!

>>15332548

If the choice is be a ricenigger or look at shiny water then the right choice is obvious.

>>15332592

Both of these were actual upgrades to the handling, though. The wheels make it very grippy in the corners and the seats make it so I don't have to cling on to the steering wheel constantly. Also, they're way better for my back, I used to get really sore when driving for any longer than an hour.

>>15331893

>Decent

>Pre-built

>>15332624

That's correct.

>>15332612

I use 19 inch Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my Mustang GT. Fun times, but the shitty Pirellis are as fun in their own way due to their potential for hooliganism.

Is the "Ray Tracing" Actual Ray Tracing, or is it just Ray tracing for certain sources of light?

>>15332637

Appears to just be god rays for shadows.

>>15332637

Actual ray tracing using what seems to be a limited number of scene divisions since they're giving the number of rays per second independent of geometry complexity. So like the octree-based GI papers that have been going around for years but putting a limit on the number of subdivisions in the octree so it fits whatever requirements they've come up with to efficiently map to the hardware. They seem to not be using it to render the individual pickles in the scene but to do lower resolution lighting and reflection calculations that will be used to produce the final scene, as a replacement for light probe spam. But I've not looked at the details yet, this is just educated guesses based on what they presented.

>>15330716

Damn they are just getting more and more expensive but is this a major upgrade or a minor upgrade in tech?

>>15332702

Something similar, but it sounded like they were using octrees, but it could have just been how he was explaining it to the audience.

>>15332058

>2070 is 500 bucks and faster than a fucking titan xp.

Don't hold your fucking breath. I'm waiting for benchmarks.

>>15332222

>>15332505

Bitcoin isn't going anywhere retards. It's at $6400, which is $6400 more than anyone ever thought it would be worth 9 years ago.

>>15332745

Bitcoin will die. It was a meme fad that doesn't actually work IRL because of blockchain size and extreme volatility. The vendors that used to accept bitcoin like steam have abandoned it. Now that it's falling out of the media cycle normalfags will stop trying to buy it and as a useless coin that can buy nothing the value will crash.

>>15331133

Same. I'll just buy a used 1080 locally when the retards start selling them at half the price to subsidize their hot, new trashfire.

>>15332873

No you see why we are jaded fucks.

>>15331915

Autism

i was planning on changing my 1050ti next month, but now i think that i should hold on to it a few more years

>>15332891

Maybe rather than shitposting on a board dedicated to playing (and loving) video games you could pick another hobby instead.

>>15332954

>Maybe rather than shitposting on a board dedicated to playing (and loving) video games you could pick another hobby instead.

I do love games I just think modern games are fucking trash.

I know a couple of overly rich swagfags who will still buy those without caring how little they offer. I mean these fuckers take pride in the fact that they're able to spend more money on the same shit.

>>15332999

I just want to make Brendan Fraser great again. I care about him more than I should.

>>15332999

I own a gun.

>>15330739

> never need to buy a new gpu ever again

lol That's not how it works.

>>15332891

I'm not sure why you think I need a clarification on that. It's not like the faults with the video game business aren't blatant and obvious.

I'm not going to wallow in my own jadedness though. There's plenty of good games for me to turn my attention to.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-hands-on?tw=PCGN1

Also confirms the same with bfv

You could, you know, not buy the top tier GPU.

>>15333089

And people could not buy that big, expensive house they're not sure they'll ever be able to pay off, or a new car every two years, or a big ass TV for the living room, or change their mobile phone every time a new model comes out.

What we have learned today is that normalfags aren't particularly smart.

I’m a 30yo boomer and I don’t have much time for vidya much anymore. I plan on waiting until VR is a bit more friendly on the wallet, then I’ll rebuild my pc to play dcs on max everything.

Are 1080s still a thing? They should be $300 by 2020.

>>15331608

Or he does not mind fiddeling with settings, or capping games at 30 fps. A 680 is still more powerful than a new budget card.

>>15333122

>I plan on waiting until VR is a bit more friendly on the wallet, then I’ll rebuild my pc to play dcs on max everything.

You might as well buy a PS4 to get the full no games experience you seem to crave so badly.

>>15331059

Well to be honest a fucking car has better gameplay than most modern videogames.

>>15330966

Yeah but the 8800GTX was fucking fire.

>>15333125

not with crippled drivers it's not.

>>15333112

>>15333109

what you are seeing anon is the new age of consumers who where born into planned obsolescence and see it as a feature of the markets. Gotta keep up with the trends and buy a new piece of shit every year if you want top tier performance. Nvidia with it's absolutely obvious anti-consumer practices won't be going out of business any time soon.

I mean god damn, these cards are not even dishing out over 30% performance no matter how much they say "10 1080ti's" or 2x 1080ti

>>15333136

>Yeah but the 8800GTX was fucking fire.

As was the 1000usd adjust to inflation geforce 3 (that never got used like the meme demo's) and the smoke and mirrors nvidias marketing love to do when they knew their product isn't up to standard

Here we are setting the bar at 4k 120hz+ and these fucktards useless crap solutions can't even give 30fps 2 @1080p without turning other settings down ON A 1000USD GPU

>>15332574

>fast forward two years

>RTX 20XX performance down the shitter on latest proprietary drivers

>3 year old Vega cards can raytrace just as well with less of an fps impact thanks to Vulkan and non-shitty FOSS drivers

<the soyim will be fine with this

>>15332222

>>15331853

>>15332753

>>15333134

Are you faggots fucking retarded?

Why the fuck are you faggots saying that the newest GPU price bubble was created by Bitcoin? Do you even know how to read, how to keep your attention span on one thing for more than 30 seconds? Bitcoin is impossible to mine efficiently on GPUs now, same as when GPUs shot up in price. People were mining mostly Ethereum, Monero and other shit, but not Bitcoin.

>>15333159

Now compare it to a 1030, or see how it runs at 1080p with medium settings.

>>15333155

yeah good luck finding a vega card at a non fucked price

>>15333130

Its like GTA but in real life and the screams aren't just the same voice actor over and over again.

>>15333170

I heard my v56 flashed to a 64 bios ocd hauls ass but I didn't try it yet

Gonna wait for my 1080 to shit itself

>>15333170

I mean, both sides suck dick but nvidia is clearly more jewish in this case.

>>15330716

Wow, talk about retarded prices.

>>15333162

This use "bitcoin" to refer to any and all kinds of crypto coins in the same way boomer parents used to use "Nintendo" to refer to all videogames.

>>15333162

Crypto's all the same shit to me - nigger currency that fucked up PC gaming even further, and should die.

>>15333170

Don't use the Vega cards for a PCI passthrough build, they have the reset bug.

>>15333191

kosher prices*

ITT: People who can't afford new hardware trying to convince themselves that the new hardware isn't worth buying at any price.

Meanwhile, nobody buys cards at launch anyway but 6mo. later at best.

>>15333235

Well, I mean you'd go from 60+fps to 100+ fps, the 1080 is cheaper and will run practically every game at 60+ fps. It's better to wait until you struggle with games running at below 30 before wasting nearly two thousand fucking dollars on it.

>>15333159

There is no way in hell my R9 290x pulls that unoptimized shitpile at 66+ fps

>>15333233

>not becoming a terrorist yourself

>>15333243

>implying piracy doesn't make you a terrorist

Get with the program.

>>15333241

I buy something new whenever there is something genuinely worth playing and my old setup struggles with it on medium settings. Typically that gives me about a 5+ years update cycle.

I'm just pointing out the immense oceans of salt ITT from faggots who don't think realtime raytracing represents a significant upgrade.

>>15333249

>I'm just pointing out the immense oceans of salt ITT from faggots who don't think realtime raytracing represents a significant upgrade.

We are talking about 30-60fps on 1080p. That's unacceptable for such a high cost gpu.

>>15333249

It's not rtt there isn't a single game built for it running on it with all the features of rtx enabled it's only shadows or ao or lighting or useless shit like reflections

>>15333249

It's a lot of money for a singular feature though, but yeah upgrading every 5 years is good, a lot of people reddit simply upgrade when they have the money and something new comes out just so they're cool and stay on the top end of the market.

>>15333264

>Nothing is using it now

>Therefore nothing will be using it ever

Hence my point about nobody buying cards at launch anyway.

>>15333249

>ITT: an anon who thinks blowing money on new lackluster hardware with inflated prices makes him some kind of hotshot compared to the unwashed, poor peasants

But yeah, salt.

>>15333281

On the upside the 1080ti and upwards are awesome cards that are gonna be on sale for the original rice they should have been over a year ago

If I didn't already have a 1080 and 56 backup I'd go for it

next gen consoles wont have ray tracing and you know games will be downgraded to console level

why buy this card now is beyond me

>>15333333(checked i guess)

Were those numbers deserved… well its a (1) so they must be.

Just gonna point out that quite a few of the PC only people are poorfagsI'm actually one of those.

>>15333364

Deserved it tbh

>nJewdia. Lol, never ever.

Really, get deleted? What is this cuckchan?

>>15333304

My rig is 10 years old and runs fine. Phenom and Asus. Nuff said.

I own a GTX970, nearly every game I can run above 60 fps with high to top settings.

Why would I need this?

>>15333393

It's jewchan. Really no big difference.

>>15333398

when novideo pushes an update that """""accidentally""""" kills your GPU

>>15330716

>australia

The prices are ridiculous enough that you don't have to exaggerate by posting them in upside down currency.

>>15333249

>I buy something new whenever there is something genuinely worth playing and my old setup struggles with it on medium settings

How is your current system struggling if youre always upgrading??

>>15333308

I don't really see the point, even on sale you'd just be wasting money until there's actual improvement in lighting and physics engines, high-resolutions are a meme.

>>15333473

They're nearing the maximum level of miniaturization that is possible with current technology. It's why you see such minuscule gains with each new generation of CPU.

>>15333521

Lol pc resolutions are laughably low anything below 4k looks like absolute trash even with strong blurry temporal aa and sharpening

>>15333534

LCDs are trash, that's why they'll look bad either way.

>>15333534

It's not that bad, honestly. Unless you're using extremely budgeted low quality TN shit.

>>15333546

Blame ancient shit tn and ips panels and anything that isn't a long life xled like oled blue which doesn't burn in.

This display industry is so fucked TV's have overtaken monitors lol I'm just gonna get a 40 inch 4k freesync screen and mount it on the fucking wall pc. Monitors are dead

Hdmi 2.1 and dp1.5 next year that's 120hz+ at 4k

>>15333614

You make that face all the time, though.

>>15331133

yep im waiting for the 1070 to 1070ti to drop to 400-450 (costs 600 here)

>PC is so much better than console games run at a gazillion fps with all settings at max

<But you have to shell out $1250 for a GPU alone

I see PC mastergoys continue their proud tradition of taking it so far up the ass it's a wonder they can even walk anymore

>>15333833

you figured all of that out alone on your own?

>>15331161

>>15331125

This. The worst part is that it's so easy. It's why big games get day one fan mods optimizing the shit out of them. I'm far from an expert, but it's simple stuff like "disable collision on objects if the player is not right next to them" and really obvious shit like that. It's mostly just "execute scripts only when the player is close enough to see/feel it". Quite a blanket statement and won't always work, especially when it comes to NPCs and so on, but it works most times. That's also not to mention all other bloat, too.

>>15333902

When your whole staff consists of cunts and niggers what else do people expect will happen?

>>15330716

I feel ya. I decided recently to just stop upgrading my PC, and once it is totally obsolete I'll just get a laptop like a normalfag and hopefully laptops in the future can easily run tabletop simulator and new vegas. I'll be good to go, then.

>>15334036

Same

I'm just over it it's stupid expensive compared to 5 years ago when I built my last system

Another 5 years from now everything will be using fucking stupid single pass/raytraced shit and set performance back 10 years for absolutely nothing

Hopefully pc gaming dies

>>15334036

Beware, anon. Laptops can physically degrade much faster than the desktop counterparts.

>>15330739

Can't wait until I get my Voodoo 3D 16mb and never need to buy a new GPU again I'm sick of this shit

>>15333836

I helped him out.

>>15334062

I know it's fake but this broken dishwasher seriously posts even worse things than that. Using emojis in code is emblematic of women in tech now.

>>15334084

That's actually worse than anything I've ever seen before, thanks.

>>15334062

Reminds of that feminist code that didn't work and how github banned the guys that fixed it for the dumb bitch.

>>15332161

But that's wrong nigga, crypto currency caused the inflation of GPU prices.

>>15334059

Shit argument graphics tech has stagnated since 2013 Gcn and fermi

>>15334125

Crypto only affected prices at retail. The MSRP of cards used for crypto mining was far below what outlets were charging for them. Nothing wrong with that, supply and demand. But Nvidia is just capitalizing on gullible early adopters who think that's what GPUs are supposed to cost.

>>15334106

>dat webm

Holy fuck! It's like something out of a movie.

>>15334165

So I'm right?

>>15334202

"Inflation of GPU prices" implies there's some reason for them to charge as much as they are aside from bald faced kikery. I'm just clarifying that there is not.

>>15333141

>It's the money of black market

Time to EMP everything.

>>15334125

Supposedly there was a price fixing scheme with the DRAM for cards caused by samsung and other manufacturers that caused the prices to skyrocket along side the buttcoin faggotry. It has since been stopped and prices have been dropping, but its still retarded. $199 for a 1050 ti still feels like a lot for what was supposed to be a "budget" mid end card

>>15330716

Why are PCfags mad about this?

It's a better graphics card, for better graphics. Consolefags are weeping, wishing they had this much power

>>15334289

>It's a better graphics card, for better graphics

[citation needed]

>>15334289

As a ex console fag I wish I got a xbox one x Tbqh it wasn't worth the 3k+ I spent upgrading and sidegrading shit when I could have bought a awesome new TV + vr

>>15334314

>3k

I wish retards like you could just give me this money. I'd spend it way better.

If you spend more than a thousand per ten years on PC hardware, you are retarded. The only reason I give you a thousand, too, is because hardware can fail sometimes so you might need to get replacement shit.

Also

>vr

Yup, certainly retarded.

>>15334417

Oh that's nothing I wasted 30k+ on my car

>>15334497

4k vr with wide fov WEN?

Tbqh I think the wait fags got fucked this gen

First the xbox one x shits over the ps4 and pro then pascal and Vega shit the bed only to be replaced by a even hotter and slower more expensive card

>>15334669

My favorite is the anons/shills that can't recognize that

>A$

Isn't the same as

>$

Don't know who's real and who's pretending to be retarded.

Why even bother? It's not like there's new good games to buy anyway. And it's fucking obvious the publishers knows that considering how they have completely went nut-deep into remastering and re-releases instead of old games.

>>15334872

Course it's real, that was a C++ screenshot, emoji are fucking Unicode characters now.

>>15330796

Remember how many economists sounded the alarm on the subprime mortgage bubble prior to like mid-2007? One or two, and they got astroturfed out of respectable media as soon as they opened their mouths.

>>15333487

if more fags modded for minetest it would be a better game

>>15332161

>This cuckchanner again

It's funny that 8ch /v/ has exactly (1) sony shill.

>>15333122

>I plan on waiting until VR is a bit more friendly on the wallet,

If you're not an apple faggot, the new VRs compatible with Samsung phones are extremely decent. Having said that, beware Vive as they have become outright fucking highway robbers. They Jew you into uprading to the new blue version with somewhat better beforance, and then forget to add "BTW, goy, you need to upgrade base station AND handcontrollers, which we charge ~$240 for…each. And try to Jew people by selling them separately. And if you try to make the entire thing work without upgrading EVERYTHING, good luck getting it all sync." Biggest case of Jewry I've every seen.

IF you really want VR for shit like seeing cool places you will never visit or so things like Astronomy, by far best bet is the ~$180 ones that fits with Samsung. Also some decent shit coming off the chink market but need to be careful to make sure it doesn't fucking fall apart in your hands the first time you pick it up.

Also, reminder that newegg still accepts bitcoin as payment. I'm not a huge fan of them but anything better than giving amazon even more shekels to help them complete their monoply over every aspect of your fucking life.

I don't understand all this anti-bitcoin memeing. It appears to be rooted in ignorance mostly since some dumb faggot said some nonsense regarding blockchain size and someone admitted he doesn't even know how to tell crypto currencies apart and calls everything "Bitcoin" like an old man calling every videogame a "Nintendo". I don't even mind people being ignorant of crypto currencies since there's nothing wrong with ignorance, but what's with the hate?

Is it specifically because of the price boom of GPUs? That's it?

That had nothing to do with Bitcoin in particular. GPUs were used to mine other crypto currencies. I can see other crypto currencies dying, but I doubt Bitcoin is dying anytime soon and I can't fathom why anyone would want it to die to give more power to (((bankers))) and (((IRS))) instead.

>>15338342

>I don't understand all this anti-bitcoin memeing

Because people who didn't get it on it on it early when it was worth buying now have these massive fucking farms that just drive up GPU prices while making themselves 1 cent on the dollar after they factor in the cost of electricity. After just watching the presentation, the only new offering here is "ray tracing," which seems to me like it means sweet-fuck all since there was no mention of how this would impact 4k gaming of even FPS. Seems to me like entire thing was a fucking bust.

Also, the prices for the Titan V aren't just the same on most sites, they've actually GONE UP. The entire thing just seems like a hard-on to me.

>>15338375

Again, that's not Bitcoin. Bitcoin has nothing to do with crazy GPU prices.

I'm hearing talk from normalfaggots irl now about the price hikes and the connection to bitcoin farms. So here's hoping that the bubble is about to burst.

>>15338342

>anti-bitcoin

It's not anti-bitcoin, it's anti-crypto in general, people just bitch about bitcoin since most people know it as THE crypto currency.

People hate it because it causes retarded faggots to go on a spree to mine because lmao free money XD. The byproduct of that are the retarded retailer GPU prices you see on the market, which NVidia is taking advantage of and selling the GPUs with a now quadrupled profit margin because people think that's just how it is; and higher up electricity prices, because when you're running out of energy you just make it more expensive so people will ration it, which works with everyone except for the cryptoniggers themselves, who just keep wasting more and more.

>>15338414

>people just bitch about bitcoin since most people know it as THE crypto currency.

That's wrong, though. Why should misconceptions be repeated here just because normalfags don't know anything? What right does anyone here have to put himself above normalfags if everyone's just as dumb and ignorant as they are?

I'm fully aware of the GPUs' prices issues, but that has nothing to do with crypto currencies in general, it's just the way some specific crypto currencies were designed. If anything, bitch about those crypto currencies. Bitch about GPU based mining. Bitch about Nvidia taking advantage of the situation.

Crypto entails a lot more than just people making easy money off of buying GPUs. It provides people with an anonymous way to make purchases, independently of jewish bankers and governments. The fact that people want all crypto currencies to die just because some crypto currencies were built with GPU mining in mind, ignoring all its benefits, specially ignoring the part where it helps fight jewish corporations that people do seem to hate otherwise, is not only absolutely fucking retarded but just downright sad. Niggers, read a damn book.

>>15338436

>Why should misconceptions be repeated here just because normalfags don't know anything?

Because normalfags are here. It's been this way ever since hws decided to buy fucking reddit ads and it's only been getting worse with all the 4ch fuckery.

>it's just the way some specific crypto currencies were designed. If anything, bitch about those crypto currencies. Bitch about GPU based mining.

Bitcoin's the one who popularized all of those though.

>Bitch about Nvidia taking advantage of the situation.

That's what people are also doing in this thread.

>It provides people with an anonymous way to make purchases, independently of jewish bankers and governments.

That's one of the reasons I like it. I hate cryptoniggers, but just because people abuse something it doesn't mean it's bad.

>specially ignoring the part where it helps fight jewish corporations that people do seem to hate otherwise, is not only absolutely fucking retarded but just downright sad.

Nu-/pol/ is cancer. Those faggots claim to hate jews then buy right into kike schemes because "loLXd ur probably a shill if u disagree cuck". Apparently 8/pol/ got better after the faggot mod got canned, but I haven't tried going back.

If I could do it over again, instead of building my new rig last year I would have probably just got an OLED 55" TV and kept my fucking console, since there hasn't been a single game actually worth the cost of of a good gaming rig that isn't pozzed. When my fucking phone broke and I had to get a new one and got a Samsung OLED, the "true black" you get from each pixel emitting its own colour really does change entire experience imo. I still have a fairly big electric Jew that is not OLED, and the differecne between colors when the screen has "backlighting" as opposed to each emitting its own really is a fundamentally different experience.

I managed to get the device that runs steam from PC to Tv fairly cheap on amazon. Seriously considering getting a decent OLED TV ~65 inches if I can find one at a decent price, since even with the slight feedback delay there really is not competition since the few OLED monitors are trash.

>>15338390

>mine eth or monero

>trade it for bitcoin

>sell bitcoin for real money

>bitcoin played no part in this process

>>15338390

>Again, that's not Bitcoin. Bitcoin has nothing to do with crazy GPU prices.

not true anon. Bitcoin started the entire trend. I'm not anti-crypto since I made a decent sum myself by getting in very early, but then you see these fucking massive warehouses full of GPUS with the Chinks making one cent on the dollar. All I have ever bought is bitcoin and etherium.

The irony is that many of these same idiots (expecting chinks since they are insect people with no independent minds) just by gaining a relatively good understanding of the financial system and shorting currencies.

Bottom line, I just wanted to play what very few decent Vidya there are left in fucking peace, and the current breed of cyrptofags of all varieties just send the prices of GPUS higher and higher.

Also, anyone else SLI here and wondering what the new system will be for the nvidia cards if you want to do it, since I've heard several commentators say that the "traditional method" of SLI is going to be completely different in this family?

>>15338500

Hopefully it's hardware side this time and does not need sli patch support in the form of profiles with shit compatibility

>>15338556

I ended up fucking giving up on SLI altogether and just buying a single powerful card. I was happier with results, much less bullshit. I fucking hate Nvidia so much and wish I could find a reason to buy Radeon, but every time I've used a Radeon-based rig at freinds' houses they are just fucking trash.

I wonder what sort of company Nvidia would be now if they weren't catering to the crypto-mining faggot crowd. I think that bullshit has not only raised prices 4x, but completely made them change directions.

>>15338572

I have a Vega 56 and it's fine I just got a gtx 1080 shortly after buying it tho

>>15338574

did you have a Radeon processor too, and did you have to find a special board to use for it? The problem is not only the the Radeon GPUs themselves, it seems like entire system is basically set up for "stick with Intel processor and Nvidia GPU, or you're fucked." Seems like all the best motherboard are built for Nvidia/Intel too. When you were building, did you find this? I was thinking about Radeon for my last rig, and it just seemed that in the end, prices not all that much better but smaller selection. I know you could use an intel processor with a Radeon GPU, but I was either going to go all the way with it or nothing.

In ways now, really wish I had gone for Radeon since setting u multiple monitors from a Nividia GPU a lot more complicated than Radeon would have been.

>>15338593

Really? I just mix and match Intel amd and ati since the 90s fam

My last pc was a 2700x and Vega 56 then I swiped back to a 1080 2ghz because it was alot faster in some games

Dunno where u got the idea nvidia or Intel said u shouldn't use them with amd stuff lol in fact devils canyon was a Intel CPU with a Vega igpu on the same die or whatever interesting stuff then the poo who worked for amd rtg got fired and works for Intel on their gpu coming out in 202x

What's Ur pc now? If it's only a 4core it's gonna struggle these days a ab450 + 2600 + 16gb 3200 is the WY to go if you wunna upgrade

Df just tearing into nvidia lol https://youtu.be/mLIgfT04wsY

>>15338732

Kek rip 3 nerds

>>15330716

Yeah, just like TV died when somebody made shitty overpriced gold plated HDMI-cables for one grand.

How will it ever survive, since everybody knows that you can only buy the most expensive thing that's out at any moment.

Fucking retard.

>>15338755

Poopoobum nvidiot detected

>>15339662

"Crypto" is short for cryptography, not cryptocurrency.

>>15339662

Reminder, whinging about exclusives and lying that every game is objectively the best on PC is all PC gamers have to dissuade you from enjoying games they can't because they're too poor. Look into each platform and see if it offers what you want, there has been very little reason to invest in a competitive PC for games, as the ports get worse, ownership has vanished and the exclusives that take advantage of the platform have dwindled.

>>15339707

>lying that every game is objectively the best on P

Point to one game that plays better on console

>Look into each platform and see if it offers what you want

Modern consoles offer one and only one plus over PCs: Exclusives.

>competitive PC

Nice and vague. Competitive with what? Requirements to run the games you want at playable settings? The 2-gen-old laptop hand-me-down specs of consoles? Specs needed to run games at settings way higher than consoles? Some arbitrary grouping of other gamers' PCs?

>>15333702

You are correct, which is why I said the NEXT cards, not the current ones.

>>15339735

>Point to one game that plays better on console

Any game with a shit port and any exclusive. Oh, they could be better on PC "if it was done right," but the reality is that this is not the case.

>Modern consoles offer one and only one plus over PCs: Exclusives.

And it's a big plus.

>>15339735

Splinter cell double agent, want more?

>muh exclusives dont count

Just say what you mean: video games dont matter when buying a video game system because they aren't for your video game system.

>Nice and vague. Competitive with what?

Use your brain, modern consoles. A system which can play the same games would be in the 600 to 800 range. It's worth having a PC, but is it worth having one thag expensive, or even more so if you want to fall for the 1440p60 meme or 120 or 144hz meme. Or the max settings meme.

>>15339679

>different sectors have homophonic abbreviations for words with the same root or prefix

Wow, I'm shocked.

>>15330777

>>15330796

>>15330807

>>15332495

>>15337532

>>15332138

t. retards who have never bought stock in their lives

They talk about how this economic growth looks like a bubble every single day on every single business news station.

>>15338770

Why are you retarded? Why do you try so hard to be outraged?

Does your autism prevent you from enjoying things unless you get the most expensive part in every slot?

Why don't you fix that with suicide?

>>15338604

>What's Ur pc now? If it's only a 4core it's gonna struggle these days

Nah, my PC right now is a 10 core i-9 and and a NVIDIA Titan V. I didn't end up letting myself get fucked simply because I've been used to it for so long. Maybe I'm delusional the colour on OLED electric jews seems far superior to any monitor, and I have a ROG 32" tht I paif through the balls for, but now barely use less it's for playing a pre-2014 game. Everything else is a hard-on now.

I would tell people saving their shekels for a good rig not even to bother until and unless they start making games that are worth paying the sort of money they are asking to build a good rig.

>>15339950

> I didn't end up letting myself get fucked

*I DID end up letting myself get fucked, even though I should have known better….

>>15339869

Nothing enjoyable about 30fs 1080p for 1200usd

>>15339950

Yikes

And I thought building 3k+ worth of pcs over theast year was a waste when I don't play games anymore was a waste how much that set u back?

Imho games these days suck

>>15339662

>eminder money spent on a console could be spent to get a PC with superior specs for the same price, even with today's artificially high DRAM/GPU prices

IDK about this fam. To get my 30 gb of RAM was almost price of a console even before I began adding in the other shit. I could probably have found a cheaper motherboard which would have lowered entire thing, but I went for a good ROG one. I mean, guess it all depends on your mindset. MY nephew is asking me to help him build a a rig now (with my sister's shekels), and I'm trying to convince him to stick with a console since for a kid of 12, I don't think he'll even know the difference and I'd much rather see him playing games like old school COd:MW where you can do things like hunt favella monkeys.

The last few COD offerings have been so bad as to literally inctie laughter. Even with the game that was based in Korea, You weren't allowed to see actual blood or corpses when you killed someone. And then all the other games were full of weird negroes in spacesuits and all kinds of shit.

Which leads me to my contention, these motherfuckers would rather lose money than make a game even slightly controversial. A game released right now about a European civil war where you got to clear islamic occupiers from European cities would be best selling game of all time if they made it, no question. But they'd lose face in the eyes of SJW/ NWO gang types and so will never happen in a million years.

>>15340024

I said yikes long before normalfags and cuckchan ran it into the ground

>>15340002

>how much that set u back?

Almost ~$7.5 k. It wa sa lot mate, but I also use it for for my work so at least while building it I could fool myself into thinking it wasn't all just for muh gamz. And then add fucking Vive to that (where to uprade, they rape you for new stations at~$200 each, and controllers are $140 each or entire thing won't sync) and you have a truly momentous cluster fuck.

Good news for those buying is that in last new hours, amazon has lowered the price of Titan V by about $500, so it's essentially an admission that new family of cards will at least come close to titan-V performance.

In some ways now, I wish I had waited for the new family and got 2 of the outcoming and SLIed them, but there's never anyway of knowing what NVIDIA is actually going to do.

>>15340020

>30 gb of RAM

>a good ROG one

>I'd much rather see him playing games like […] COd:MW

This has to be trolling

>>15340059

Oi with vr when the fuck are 4k wireless headsets coming out? Wonder if the new meme ai tech and compute in the turing cards can be useful for that in anyway? I'm not interested in rtx raytrace crap in games at all as we've all said it won't be std for a decade or more.

Really shitted off they added a dedicated vr port and didn't even demo vr on this card

Can't stand the low resolution and refresh rate of gen1 headsets but once the new stuff comes out it's gonna be siq

>>15339823

>Remember that standards are so high on PC, even textbook "shit ports" like DS1 or Arkham Asylum played the same or better than console out of the box.

You're now talking about the higher end of PC, what prices are we comparing now?

>if you don't care that much about exclusives

That's a big 'if,' considering how desirable so many exclusives are from the PC side.

I don't even own a console, just a PC with a GTX1080. Our indie games alone beat the shit out of consolefags.

>>15340086

Not him but a mate of mine paid 600aud for 32gb of meme led ram I think it's 3200 speed

He only plays games too lul 77k he couldn't delid under water-cooled custom loop and a 1060

>>15340094

>vr when the fuck are 4k wireless headsets coming out

Why would you care about wireless? None of the games that would benefit from that are any good.

>>15340101

Yeah I heard roomscale is a meme as well

>>15340086

>This has to be trolling

translation–" let me pretend the ROG 32 inch isn't a good monitor just because it comes from a mainstream company and since I'm a lazy nigger with no ambition living on NEETbux rather than working my ass off like other dumb motherfuckers on here."

And yeah, if you expect to install your RAM and best for the life of the fucking computer, 30 GB of ddr4 RAM is the right amount, you can say anything you fucking want but that's the reality of it.

>>15340094

I really paid as much as I did since I loved the first Vive and being able to "tour" european cities at streetlevel was amazing. Now, if you have a decent Samsung phone you can do just about same thing with their VR for about 1/7th the price.

I have the new blue Vive. Bought it, wouldn't fucking work, needed to "upgrade" the basestations AN controllers, which the suckers sell separately and absolutely gouge you for price of each one. So I have all the Vive gear, but haven't yet had time to even set it up since so much shit going on at my work last few months.

If you are into VR or just want to try it, I would suggest people avoiding vive like the plague now, they've become way too fucking greedy now.

>>15340151

Lol Nah fuck the initial rice of vr it's nuts

I'll just wait

>>15340086

>COd:MW

The other ones are somewhat questionable, but re are genuinely suggesting that the first few COD:MW games weren't good and far less full of the PC bullshitthat's out now? Like the stronk womyenz with tats, negroes, and various other dengerates in the new "battlefield" series from cuckistan sweden where a a Jewess gets sent out to go kill Hitler? At least the early ZOD games had SOME sense of history and the even in the games not historical, the operators sent on various mission were White Brit SAS, not niggers and faggots with rainbow tattoos.

You sound like you fight for the pink team anon.

>>15340111

It is a total meme. Who wants to spend hours standing and walking around during vidya? I want to relax, not wear myself down.

>>15340151

Got a Dell Visor on /v/'s recommendation for $235 and I've been really happy with it; I can go for multi-hour sessions and have near-zero indication on my face after I take it off.

>>15340160

Waiting is the way to go. Sole exception is if you're a flight sim nerd.

>>15330777

Socialists plan on exploiting the economic crash to turn the U.S. into a shit Socialist nation.

They want to blame the bubble pop on capitalism, and forget all about the corrupt international corporations.

They then will proceed to taking money from wealthy individuals and giving it to corporations.

>>15340172

Never heard of it what's it like? I've never tried vr either

>>15340181

I loved fsx but never had the money for good joysticks

>>15340160

Probably a smart move. For those who really feel like they HAVE to have one now, I don't have one but best version I've played after a properly working vive is that one that works with the newer Samsung phones and is less that $200.

The only problem I see with waiting (potentially) is that as society and the industry becomes more pozzed, the (very few) decent games around might disappear totally.

>>15340193

Mmmm thats my worry

Is it all memeshit like vr chat or is there actual good games? Sadly I'm in aus and my internet is terrible so Multiplayer would be out 4pm-10pm due to lag

>>15340189

Already happened here canada and Europe

At least u seppos are fighting it

>>15340172

> Dell Visor

Have to look into it. For as long as I can recall, nything with the name "dell" on it goes right into the trash. But was just looking at Amazon and there seem to be literally 50 different versions of VR now. which is good that the fuckers have competition now, will drive down price.

After getting absolutely fucked wit the new Vive equipment in every possible way, this weekend is my chance to finally set it all up and get it all synched. Anyone have any good Vive game recommendations from Steam?

>>15340212

>good games?

There ARE good games anon. The problem (or one of the problem) is that with all the dickheads shooting up schools of late, you can't really have a decent VR shooting game without screeching from the usual gang.

There are definitely some very good games, but you need to also consider having a spare room that you dedicate exclusively to your rig and vive, lest you run the risk of tripping over/banging into shit.

>>15332789

>not being part of the 1360x768 masterrace

>>15340221

I think there was one someone on cuckchan vr thread posted a webm where u could run around in a counter strike like game called pavlov and steals your enemies MAG so they couldn't fire lool

>>15340243

Damn I don't have any spare room

>>15340095

>what prices are we comparing now?

$250-$600, fleaBay parts, reusing case/PSU/etc, competently spec'd rig, vs. used console.

>That's a big 'if,' considering how desirable so many exclusives are from the PC side.

Depends on your tastes, I guess. If you want sims or cheekibreek, PC exclusives win in a landslide, if you want non-doujin weebshit or you can't for Nintendo's latest bingbingwahoobox to be emulated, console exclusives usually unavoidable.

>>15340115

>monitor

You said mobo and LCDs are shit, get flatscreen aperture grille tube and wait for OLED monitors to happen

>32GB RAM

What exactly do you do with it, load the entire game into a RAMdisk? Even 16GB is a bit excessive, 8GB exceeds the reqs of most games. Remember every dollar you spend on a part irrelevant to your workload, is a dollar that could go into a part of your rig that's actually bottlenecked (better GPU, faster SSD, faster single-thread CPU, etc.).

I mean, excessive RAM is right up there alongside using a >4-core CPU (especially an i7), using giant SSDs (>1TB), buying prebuilts (especially "gaming laptops"), and gamershit accessories (keyboard, speakers, etc.).

>>15340151

I'm waiting until somebody moves beyond pitiful 1080p cellphone hand-me-down panels and 90°-110° FoV.

>>15340170

>the first few COD:MW games weren't good

Yes, they were absolute shit. Linear, NPCs doing way too much for you, mountains of auto-aim, tiny multiplayer pop caps, fucktarded Tom Clancy non-writing, etc.. If you wanted tacticool operations, get ARMA or Battlefield. Even the massively dumbed down post-Rainbow Six 3 Clancy games were less fucking retarded.

>>15340192

Okay, so the tech for roomscale works fine, it's just that designing gameplay around roomscale doesn't really work in practice.

>>15340212

>Is it all memeshit like vr chat or is there actual good games?

I really enjoyed Serious Sam VR after switching it into normal movement controls (can't stand teleport shit for movement)

Hotdogs Horseshoes and hand grenades is good as a gun fan.

Flight sims with a joystick are great because your audio, visual, and tactile (sitting in chair with hands on joystick) are all in sync with the game. It's an incredible feeling, and works well with the immersive nature of simulation games.

I have no room dedicated to VR btw, I do seated and standing, only toyed with a clear area for testing things out.

>>15340221

>For as long as I can recall, nything with the name "dell" on it goes right into the trash

Yeah, I thought that, too; it seems to be aimed at workstations for companies. I was confident in their design choices to keep costs down; that's why I had enough trust to go through with it. Headset is wired with HDMI and a USB 3.0 port, and has ZERO tracking issues (excepting a pitch black room where it cannot find a reference point, which doesn't really happen). The controllers are better than the Vive's IMO, but many VR games aren't designed to utilize them fully. I didn't care about controllers that much (vust wanted the headset really), but they were a pleasantly functional addition. The BIG drawback of the Visor is that it is a Windows Mixed Reality headset, so you require Windows to run it.

>>15341379

Cryptoponzi is one half of the problem, other half is massively inflated memory prices saddling GPUs with premiums due to the need for VRAM. Fortunately, unlike cryptoponzi, memory manufacturers' criminal behavior is being dealt with in a series of pricefixing and antitrust suits that will push memory prices back down to sanity by late this year:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/30/dram_vendors_sued_again_for_price_fixing_again/

>>15341487

I still don't get it; the 1070 and 1080 both have 8GB of VRAM to the 980ti's 6GB and otherwise perform as well or better, respectively. What is the reason for such a huge premium?