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0dca13 No.15302066

If your game doesn't use 3 dimensions, stick to sprites.

There's no fighting this…

adffbf No.15305562

Agreed. 2-dimensional action with 3D objects just makes it more difficult to guess where the collision zones are and what is background and foreground and what is gameplay theater.


54ae3e No.15305599

>>15302066

Faggots can't sprite, and there's no Unity equivalent for 2D games with a shitload of pre-existing assets, to the best of my knowledge.


0dca13 No.15306987

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Hyper Light Drifter has nice pixel art.


33b1fc No.15307031

why not just get used to the game and play better? or are you one of those people who quits a game the first time he gets a game over?


2f836d No.15307111

>>15306987

HLD has some nice Evas.


f663c5 No.15307748

>There's no fighting this…

Depends on the genre, the reason why fighting games moved away from it is because it's so fucking expensive. KoF XII/XIII nearly killed SNK financially and the games suffered heavily because they had to cut so many corners. XIV ended up being a better game than XIII gameplay wise because of their switch to 3D. The reduced cost of animation actually allowed them to ship a finished product with a massive roster, no headswaps and characters with complete movesets.


df5c71 No.15307757

>>15307748

capcom does most of the sprite animations from rotoscoped 3d animations that they made earlier


83257e No.15308077

>>15307748

> almost bankrupted SNK

That doesn't make any sense. All they were doing for that game was rendering the characters in 3D and then just taking the still frames painting some details over them and then turning them into Sprites. I can see where that that would be fairly time-consuming. But expensive enough to bankrupt an entire Company? That seems like a cop-out and a scapegoat for just bad financial nonsense. SNK has been known for some pretty shady Financial dealings. It also wouldn't surprise me if embezzlement was a problem for them.


39fc57 No.15308507

File: 5ea836b6ab170d9⋯.png (31.79 KB, 604x390, 302:195, guilty_gear_rar_sprites_by….png)

File: 3655841741e5ceb⋯.png (5.04 KB, 166x219, 166:219, Wild_Wolf_XII_by_arthascf.png)

File: bb9895406a9a118⋯.png (10.67 KB, 283x239, 283:239, kof_xii_styled_sprite_by_o….png)

>there will never be hand drawn Guilty Gear again

>there will never be rotoscoped KOF and SF again

>there will never be non-pozzed Marvel VS Capcom again


64cc55 No.15308544

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>>15308077

>>15307757

The process WOULD be more expensive however, so really you can call their "it would crash this company" nonsense as an overexaggeration and excuse for something that's rather simple: they're being cheap.

It's a two step process and they want to upgrade to 3D because normalfags are into it, Quality doesn't matter, only that it LOOKS good. I've seen people pass up fun games based on looks alone, some people have it bad in regards to image. It matters more to those people then self-enjoyment or even improvement and worse is it's a casual mindset for normalfags. Something REALLY went down the fucking drain.

I have a fighting game ring going on at a college lounge, and half of everyone there are focused entirely on appearance, especially the blacks and Asians.

The game i'm talking about is Slap City and I played it today, it's actually pretty fun, but only other dudes who didn't give a shit about appearance tried it, they others have a NEED to be seen as serious or being associated with serious things. Like playing fucking trash ass Tekken 7, it's seriously bad how everyone plays it, people quit Street Fighter 5 but hanged on to Tekken, it's like a normalfag finder.

The only girl there wasn't even playing, but trying to show everyone her fighting game replays, trying to control her appearance but never actually playing with the others. She's known for this and only fights newbies, we know she's trash at games, but it doesn't excuse everyone else.

Seriously, some people are HARDCORE only about appearances, It's hard enough to find people to play with.


36cd30 No.15308563

>>15308507

90s era Gambit is so fucking cool.


39fc57 No.15308580

File: 417e47efb4ae472⋯.png (10.63 KB, 202x245, 202:245, kof_xii_styled_sprite_by_o….png)

>>15308563

I don't know and don't want to know how any of marvels heroes look today.


39fc57 No.15308585

File: 203c97bd1eddfcd⋯.png (248.64 KB, 480x320, 3:2, 71cf3bc79f3df8dc93853a35cd….png)

File: 23f2b29244b3b44⋯.gif (2.24 MB, 796x585, 796:585, Zwei_Voltage_MK__II_by_dar….gif)

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>>15308544

Shit I mean I passed all new GG, KOF and SF games simply because they use 3D models instead of sprites.

I just don't give a fuck, I want my sprites, I won't play with 3D shit.

I guess you post accounts for people like me as well.


abf8d6 No.15308596

File: f2f43414e729004⋯.png (69.11 KB, 200x200, 1:1, big think1.png)

I'm surprised no one ever investigated or developed means to speed up sprite work, especially when indie shitters wanted to be "retro" so desperately but made really half assed sprites.


64cc55 No.15308606

File: 45fe0d12dac26e9⋯.jpg (72.01 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 6f55f62e05b9255c78ff324071….jpg)

>>15308585

I mean you should keep an open mind, sprites are fucking great but games aren't just art pieces, plenty of games can look like polygonal shit but games that look like that i've had a lot of fun with.

The post does account for you too, but it's not wrong to like either for the aesthetics, but it's retarded to count something out just because they can't do the best art. And it certainly is wrong to like something because you think you have an image.

It's like a kid refusing to even try a carrot before he decides he hates it. You're not forced to buy carrots, but what's the harm trying it when you get a free one? New things can't harm you, and if it's shit it's a story to tell.

Unless it's from a company that is known for pumping out nothing but triple A trash, like EA. There's limits you know.


054096 No.15308632

>>15308596

It would be pretty neat if there was a sprite shader akin to Guilty Gear Xrd. They would have to disable interpolation though.


486517 No.15309528

3D is cheaper, and the 2.5D aesthetic suits some games (like Kirby).


e3981e No.15309551

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>>15308596

That's literally what they did for KoF 13.


aee5c6 No.15309555

>>15308580

Rogue and Gambit got married recently and got their own miniseries out of it. It was a rare case of heterosexuality being acknowledged and seen as positive in the modern Marvel Universe.


dbb8b0 No.15309558

File: 9645da15b003c53⋯.gif (10.12 KB, 97x120, 97:120, tumblr_mpa446qmgG1rspvx9o1….gif)

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cautiously optimistic for diepod's game and cerebrawl if they ever manage to come out.

i'm trying to learn enough 3d to at least make comfy 2.5d backgrounds. but it's way more technical than drawing

>>15308507

>>15308585

play frenchbread games then

>>15308596

plenty of people have tried, it's very difficult to make 2d assets more efficient without making them look like cheap garbage

>>15308632

xrd has kind of been a curse tbh. now there's a glut of games trying to copy that aesthetic with neither the skills or resources to do it properly.


486517 No.15309562

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I really like the way Kirby 64 looks, and that whole 2D but not quite effect, like curved stage here. I think this is my favourite Kirby game, aesthetically at least.


abf8d6 No.15309574

>>15309551

it was effectively rotoscoping, and still takes "six and a half months per character". I still think it was a really interesting system and it's a shame it didn't get expanded on much but its not the gap of time consumption people have been trying to bridge


486517 No.15309582

Viewtiful Joe also looks great.


5714a1 No.15309677

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>>15309551

KOF13 vs KOF14 in Kim's pants


1c6884 No.15311080

File: f56b58a2476262e⋯.jpg (637.2 KB, 900x1400, 9:14, saisyu-kusanagi-king-fight….jpg)

>>15308606

>you should keep an open mind

Yeah that's what faggots, niggers and feminist were telling me to do for 30 years now.

No.

>>15309558

>frenchbread games

>look into it

>turns out I played most of their games somehow

Good shit.


486517 No.15311097

>>15311080

>playing a game without sprites is the same as taking a dick in the ass




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