dd0960 No.15300434
So I’ve never played any of these games. Are they all the same? Is there a reason to play them chronologically?
055966 No.15300441
More or less and no respectively.
843efe No.15300465
000000 No.15300490
a6616e No.15300491
>>15300434
Is there really a reason to play them at all?
If you haven't played a pokemon game by now then I doubt that there's anything in it that would interest you, OP.
If put on a timeline, within 1 standard deviation from each other, each game is pretty much exactly the same with minor tweaks and new monsters.
The further away two games are, the more different they are from each other in the way the "pokemon gameplay formula" is presented.
also if you give a shit the later games are more "balanced" for competitive play but who the fuck really lad
9232dd No.15300536
>>15300434
If you decide to play them in order don't bother after gen 3. The guy who made the series quit being the director after gen 2 and since the franchise took off after that point they stopped trying as hard. Its a good series but the decline in quality was sharp.
So yeah you could play red/yellow, then crystal, and then emerald or if you could play crystal then fire red then emerald if you don't like original gameboy graphics or whatever.
bb16b1 No.15300575
>>15300434
Do you mean in release order? If you can tolerate the broken games of Gen 1 you can start there(Red/Blue/Green) and then move on to Gen 2: Gold, Silver, and Crystal. Crystal being a game that stands out from its siblings in some ways, so you may be inclined to play Gold and/or Silver and Crystal.
With Gen 3 comes Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald, and the introduction of two simultaneous criminal teams compared to the one of previous generations. Ruby and Sapphire are the duo and Emerald is a revision and combination of both that adds more content. It's up to you if you want to play all three. This generation is home to the first remakes, Fire Red and Leaf Green, updating the Generation 1 games with the more recent Pokemon and mechanics. Also available are Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, that let you get Pokemon that you can't get in RSE or FRLG. They are the first 3D adventure games without a grid in the series and don't have the same story of the other games up to this point.
With Gen 4 comes Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. Platinum being the Emerald equivalent of the generation, and here you can choose to ignore Diamond and/or Pearl and just play Platinum. This generation also has a pair of remakes, Heart Gold and Soul Silver, like their Gen 3 counterparts it updates the Gen 2 games of the same name, however they don't include Crystal's content.
With Gen 5 comes Black and White, and Black 2 and White 2. The sequels build on the first pair of games and are considerably different.
Gen 6 has X and Y, which for being the first 3d Mainline games(Colosseum and Gale of Darkness don't count according to Gamefreak) might be impressive. The remakes of this generation are Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby. They are ultimately worse than the games they're remakes of, so you can skip them if you don't feel like playing them.
Gen 7 has Sun and Moon, and Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. These games are the most railroading ones in the series yet, Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon build on the first pair of games.
b4bd97 No.15300588
>>15300465
>Inb4 shadowban
b04760 No.15300593
Play them chronologically so you can see how the game developed over time and wonder why the fuck they did retarded shit like making ghost a physical type and dark/dragon special types.
dd0960 No.15300617
>>15300575
Thanks I’ll just do that. I was mainly curious if the games are literal clones of each other but I think I have an idea of the way they deviate based on what people have said.
ea0ef6 No.15300631
It's an incredibly grindy, repetitive, piss easy series. Every game is a cookie cutter of the first with very minor changes and no real improvements outside graphics, but all mon designs after Gen 3 are fucking trash. Overall not a series worth playing.
c9e662 No.15300640
>>15300434
General consensus is that the gameplay went to shit after BW2.
Genwun and Gentoo are broken messes (1 moreso than 2).
Gens 3-5 are pretty good. Some spinoff games like Ranger are interesting.
The biggest reason to give a fuck about the series is the porn.
c9e662 No.15300652
>>15300575
To add on to the last point, S&M are literally just shittier versions of USUM. I can't think of a single reason to choose it over the ultra versions, it feels like they released an unfinished version of S&M to tide the autistic fanbase over while they finished it.
5de6ac No.15300665
>>15300434
>Are they all the same?
short answer:yes
long answer:yes but the graphics change
>>15300465
any eevees
ea0ef6 No.15300679
>>15300640
>The biggest reason to give a fuck about the series is the porn.
You are a man of integrity just like me
39678d No.15300685
>>15300465
Always and forever
0ccb85 No.15300693
>>15300685
>forever cursed to have shit taste
4db087 No.15300700
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Just play whatever the newest one is, it will be the culmination of all the previous games features.
You can emulate the 3DS games at 10K resolution/60fps on toasters now.
Roms are not too big either, a few gb, easy to obtain too.
Linked a setup guide if you're interested.
4db087 No.15300710
>>15300700
Should also mentioned there is Online too. So if you wanted to battle other people or trade It's available.
f07d45 No.15300715
>>15300434
The game play gets better, but the pokemon designs get stupider
5de6ac No.15300722
>>15300700
DID SOMEBODY SAY ROMS?! NOT ON MY WATCH FUCKO
f3a57d No.15300726
>>15300434
They're pretty much all the same. But there are a few important mechanical difference to note. In gens 1-3, a move is determined to deal physical or special damage based on its typing. That means that something like a fighting type move will always deal physical damage (affected by attack and defence stats) while a dark type move will always hit for special damage (affected by special attack/defence). But from gen 4 onwards,this is determined on a move to move basis. So a fighting type move like focus blast can hit for special damage, and a dark type move like bite can hit for physical. This is pretty important for determining how to build your team, but the games arent too hard so dont stress it too much. Theres also no reason to play chronologically since theres barely any connection between the games. If you're looking for a place to start, I would reccomend firered/leafgreen, platinum, or Heartgold/Soulsilver.
401c9a No.15300751
>>15300434
You can play them in this order:
1. Fire Red
2. Heart Gold
3. Omega Ruby
4. Platinum
5. White/White 2
6. X
7. Sun/Ultra Sun
If you wanna go roots, then:
1. Yellow
2. Crystal
3. Emerald
4. Platinum
5. White/White 2
6. X
7. Sun/Ultra Sun
4bd1bd No.15300753
>>15300617
You usually only need to play one game per generation. Gen 1 has your choice of Red or Blue and then Yellow as a special edition. Gen 2 has Crystal as a definitive edition. Gen 3 has Emerald as the definitive edition and your choice of FireRed and LeafGreen if you want to play through the Gen 1 games with an expanded story and updated graphics. Gen 4 has Platinum as the definitive edition and HeartGold and SoulSilver as remakes of Crystal with upgraded graphics and expanded gameplay. Gen 5 is where it gets a bit tricky since there is no definitive edition of this gen, Black and White are the first two games and Black2 and White2 are the second two and are direct sequels. Gen 6 has X and Y to choose from and remakes of the Gen 3 games with OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire. Gen 7 has two definitive editions effectively with UltraSun and UltraMoon. Take your pick between those two. Really, to get the core Pokemon experience you only need to play a few games. The multiple version gimmick was made to A. make extra money and B. made to give kids within the same family the feeling of having a slightly different game from their siblings or friends and to encourage trading. This isn't really important anymore. Ideally you'd simply play either FireRed or LeafGreen, then Emerald, then Platinum, then HeartGold or SoulSilver. Those four games are typically well regarded, everything past Gen 4 is either you love it or hate it.
35c9c6 No.15300756
you made the same thread last week rrrrreeeeeeeee!
248298 No.15300793
I'd recommend:
- FireRed/LeafGreen
- Emerald
- Platinum
- HeartGold/SoulSilver
- Black/White
- Black 2/White 2
33b0ed No.15300894
>>15300434
Not really, Pokémon is a curious case. The casual player is not really going to notice the changes in the games, besides stuff like QoL. They are not the same in battle, G2 was a stall fest while G5 was the Weather Wars. Some of them have the content than others. I will give you a quick rundown of the best game to play if you want to experience any region.
>Kanto
Green Leaf and Fire Red
The G1 Remakes, the have the same MG as the originals plus more in the form of the Sevii Island. If you want to experience the G1 exp then go for Red or Blue.
>Johto
Soul Silver and Heart Gold
same as the latter one, this is a favorite for many people. I see no reason to play the original G2 games except for the nostalgia value
>Hoenn
Emerald
It might be weird to not play the latest remake of it but honestly it was inferior in most ways. Emerald offers a much better challenge in both puzzles and gym battles, not to mention it has the Battle Frontier. IMO it still remains as one of the best Pokémon games.
>Sinnoh
Platinum
Avoid Diamond and Pearl. They were incredibly slow and had a shit dex. Platinum manages to solve most problems presenting a very good game. Just like emerald, many choose it as their favorite. Remembered fondly by competitivefags for having a really good beta post the Garchomp ban.
>Unova
A rare case, it has no “remake” and it is a first game and its sequel. BW2 is regarded as the last good Pokémon game by many and it is my personal favorite. It has a very strong post-game. The story has never being Pokémon’s strong point so you can skip BW1 but I wouldn’t recommend that. This region gets a lot shit from genwunners for Vanillux and Garbodor but for the most part people who did played games remember a lot of its Pokémon fondly.
>Kalos
X&Y
For a first game it was okay, it felt incredibly empty after BW2 massive content and the chibi stile is hard to look at. It was a short gen that really need its “3rd game” but that never came
>Alola
ULTRA
A bumpy ride, S&M were pretty good for the first games that is. They easily outperform the rest but fall extremely short when compared to Emerald, Plat or BW2. Many hoped that ULTRA would be BW2 tier but it made very few changes and fucked up the Main Antagonist’s story. That being said the Rainbow Rocket was fucking great. Maybe it is the nostalgia talking there so there is that.
f6cac6 No.15302931
>>15300536
But Gen 3 is the worst one by far. It removed more features than it added. If you're gonna drop it, drop it after 2.
62374e No.15303007
So do you guys generally recommend US / UM? How's the difficulty compared to ORAS?
9e6a76 No.15303030
>>15300722
FUCK YOU REGGIE
f99cdf No.15303047
If you can't impregnate your pokemon why bother
2b4f5e No.15303048
>>15303007
ORAS is super easy mode so US/UM is harder, since it's got its powered-up gimmick bosses. I'd actually recommend the original Sun & Moon over Ultra since the changes to the story were overall for the worse, unless you want the extra pokemon that are in Ultra and the Rainbow Rocket stuff.
16402d No.15303069
say I have a few hundred pokemon cards from early 2000's and maybe 30 of them are worth 5 bucks or near. how would i go about selling them?
fed973 No.15303095
>>15303069
Tcgplayer or ebay
16402d No.15303127
>>15303095
alright, thank you
62374e No.15303131
>>15303048
I must say the Rainbow Rocket thing really takes over my nostalgia brain. I mean, it's stupid alternate reality shit, but fuck it, it has GIOVANNI at the top.
68ad7c No.15303139
>tfw this thread will derail into yet another shitty yiff thread regardless of what anybody does
So which game was your first? I've only ever played the first generation and I never saw the appeal.
99e48b No.15303220
Play Red or Blue to start, Crystal is the 3rd gen best version
cfb190 No.15303252
>>15300434
Just play Gens 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 (HeartGold and SoulSilver) and never touch this shit again.
9e6a76 No.15303314
>>15303139
>trying to bait the furfags this blatantly
My first pokemon game was Pokemon Pinball on the GBC. I think Silver was my first mainline game.
70daa1 No.15303339
>>15300434
Disregard the advice of anyone who tells you (someone who has never played Pokemon) to play Red/Blue, especially first.
68ad7c No.15303355
>>15303314
It's not an attempt at baiting them, it's venting frustration at how many threads they ruin and how they'll eventually ruin this one too.
I didn't even know there was a Pokémon Pinball game. Was it at least good?
9e6a76 No.15303389
>>15303355
I'm pretty sure there's more than one. I think there was also a Gen 3 themed Pinball game.
>Was it at least good?
Yeah it was alright. Most of my opinion on it is just nostalgia though, I haven't played that since I was 7 or 8
b7e124 No.15303408
Play Heart Gold/Soul Silver and then drop that shit franchise and pick up Digimon World 1, 2, 3, Dusk/Dawn and Redigitize. Also Cyber Sleuth, Rumble arena 1/2, Digital Card Battle, Battle Spirits and wait for Survive.
7e3051 No.15303416
>>15300434
A cool idea and good mechanics used to make it my favorite franchise until gen 5.
There's no chronology so you can start by playing the best one so far (gen 4)
e4b52d No.15303429
Sort of. At the core yes, turn based RPG with a glorified rock paper scissors system in play with the usual stats.
But it's a really good example of refinement. The first one's pretty shit, mechanically broken and generally weird. Second fixes the broken things, adds some balance, adds some depth. Third adds in passive effects, fourth adds in new attacks, fifth didn't do much, sixth added a 'super' attack for lack of a better term, seventh did the same better and shook up the core a bit.
c285fe No.15303461
Just make sure you play the one with the protag who is actually cool at some point.
99e48b No.15303467
>>15303461
>Colosseum
But it's spelled Coliseum?
9c625d No.15303474
>>15303467
Yeah, and Kazooie is actually kazoo.
What's your point NIGGER?
33b0ed No.15303489
>>15303007
It has some challenge sometimes. It is very dependent on the battle but I suppose that means it is in fact harder than ORAS. That is however more related to Alolamon being overall shit. The game is okay, I guess. It is the worst “3rd” game by a long shot. I think that if you like Pokémon it is serviceable, at the very least. I wouldn’t really recommend buying it though, not directly from Nintendo at least. Pirate it or buy it second hand.
>>15303139
I suppose it ain't for everyone. I started all the way back at G1.
>>15303461
Man, I loved both Orre games. I dream about a 3rd one but that ain't going to happen, especially now that the games are on the Switch
c285fe No.15303491
>>15303467
According to Jewgle
fed973 No.15304965
anyone play the card game and know any fun, budget decks to play?
21037d No.15305094
>>15300434
They add new stuff in a game and take it out in the next.
>>15300894
Did they keep surfing as a minigame in Ultra? That shit was far more offensive than anything they've ever done.
>>15303461
The console games are terrible examples of what to expect out of the Pokemon series because they're not made by Gamefreak so they're not lazy pieces of phoned in shit and will never have more of their type made because Gamefreak is refusing to outsource. Also, the music is god awful after XY; it was the last thing they weren't screwing up.
33b0ed No.15305175
>>15305094
????
I don't know what you are talking about. If you are talking about the Mantine thing that was added in ULTRA and it is optional, using it does moves you from one island to another. Surfing in G7 is done like the rest of the HM, via the ride Pokemon in this case Lapras or Shapedo
399551 No.15305547
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Ah, an excuse to post this seven-hour video dissecting Omega Ruby.
>>15300434
You should play at least one or two of the games (a good traditional one like Crystal or something from the following gen, then BW or BW2/one of the new 3D games) to understand the formula and undergo the arc that most pokemon players go.
>i can catch all these monsters! it's so cool!
>i'm gonna have a tank, and a speedy pokemon, and a swole fire type, and a . . .
>oh, the gym leader in the next town is electric? time to invest in ground types
>wow, the type advantage is real strong
>wow, it's crazy how much better certain status effects are than others
>wow, why am I even bothering with this shitty bug/poison type I found on route 3 with seven weaknesses and garbage stats?
>guess i'd better raise a kangaskan/conkeldurr/whatever pseudo-legendary is the terror of the tier lists this gen
>holy shit this takes a long of grinding and I'm not autistic enough to count EVs and IVs
>wait, have all the games been like this?
the answer is yes
BW is my personal favourite mostly because it's the first one I played, but also because the gym leaders were actually all well-designed bosses and rarely stat crunch tests. Even the fucking normal type gym leader has a gimmick that lets her chew through your team if you aren't careful.
b1fce0 No.15305552
>>15300465
<white power will you flare
3a40bf No.15305567
80cd80 No.15305576
>>15303139
I started with Yellow, then Blue, and then nearly every game after even up to UltraMoon.
>>15305094
>The console games are terrible examples of what to expect out of the Pokemon series because they're not made by Gamefreak so they're not lazy pieces of phoned in shit
>says this despite the two console RPG Pokemon games ripping the battle engine and everything else integral to the actual game from the games Game Freak made
06deec No.15305578
>>15300465
The best part is since she's not in the humanoid egg group, you don't have to worry about eggs
392c28 No.15305677
>>15305578
Not this time negro, you've yiffed up enough Pokémon threads. You can let just one be normal.
80cd80 No.15305681
>>15305578
Pokemon don't have genitals, retard
afc353 No.15305722
>>15300491
>>15300434
I was at that award age where I thought Pokemon was for babies even though my younger brother was playing it all day long. I loved Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger. Never saw the appeal of a bear bones JRPG around collecting stupid animals.
I am probably going to BUY Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! just to see what I've been missing.
fda823 No.15305732
>>15305681
then how do they make eggs? checkmate, atheists.
80cd80 No.15305737
>>15305722
>buying a stripped down game to see what you're missing
You're retarded.
fed973 No.15305740
>>15305722
Probably a bad idea as it’s a stripped down version of an already casual rpg
04ef4f No.15305762
>>15304965
For post rotation I would recommend Metagross gx or Gardevoir Gx
afc353 No.15305846
>>15305740
>>15305737
>stripped down version
its almost as if you are reading from the same script
fed973 No.15305872
>>15305846
Read the changes for yourself. Stripped down is about the only way to describe it. They removed features and dumbed down everything. It’s crazy how casual they are making that game.
fed973 No.15305963
>>15305872
Actually, for the hell of it, allow me to spoon feed to you the worst of the changes
>no more battling wild Pokémon. This means no more building teams for catching certain Pokémon and carefully balancing their HP and your attacks to capture them. Now you feed them a berry and throw a ball
>no more Rival, instead you get a fanboy who cheers you on and circle jerks you for everything you do
>forced to fight gym leaders with their weakness. If you don’t have the Pokémon they are weak against the game won’t let you into the gym
>all the EV, IV, Breeding, etc removed, meaning all the depth the game gained over the years is completely gone
33b0ed No.15305991
>>15305722
Anon, LGPE is shit. Even in the Pokemon Fandom is seen as an abhorrent sin and even casuals are calling it shit. You can get the same EXP for free from the shit mobile game, GO. LGPE is a spin off based on GO that GF insists in calling "Main Line"
>>15305963
The battles are just like they are in GO. It is such a retarded change. This is a very bad case of thinking that people expect the same from think that Mobile tier games are the future
855ec9 No.15305996
>>15305991
GF isn't calling it mainline though, they claimed the next mainline game is coming 2019 but they didn't want to show up empty handed for 2018.
33b0ed No.15306004
>>15305996
They did, they said LPGE was for the "casual" fans and that the 2019 was for the "hardcore" fans. Not that I have any hope for the 2019 game, it will ULTRA in Higher definition
019368 No.15306016
>>15305963
>no more Rival, instead you get a fanboy
Thats pretty much been the case since gen 3.
>all the EV, IV, Breeding, etc removed
EV's and IV's are still blatantly in the game, i don't think they've mentioned if breeding is removed.
>forced to fight gym leaders with their weakness
The gym system is fucked, but the requirements are different for each gym, i believe Misty's is that you have atleast 1 level 20 or something.
Required weakness is most likely only for Brock.
The simplified wild battle system is completely dumb i must admit.
I think legendaries actually have normal wild battles based off of one of the trailers, thats not confirmed though.
5bec42 No.15306583
The main reason to play them chronologically is mechanical improvements, older games aren't as fun to me because they make me miss improvements in their newer counterparts
if you want the mainline series experience but want to play as few games as possible I would play in this order:
(Two or more separated by a / means they are more or less the same game and you should just pick one of the two on a whim and not bother with the other. Next to the games I included the name of the region they take place in.)
FireRed/LeafGreen (Kanto)
Platinum (Sinnoh)
HeartGold/SoulSilver (Johto, later Kanto)
Black/White (Unova)
Black2/White2 (Unova 2 years later)
X/Y (Kalos)
Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire (Hoenn)
Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon (Alola)
All of the other main games are earlier, less polished versions of these games.
Alternatively you can forgo FireRed/LeafGreen, HeartGold/SoulSilver, and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire for Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald respectively. Chronologically they would come before everything on the list. The only reason to do this would be to see how the first two generations played, and I don't personally recommend it.
Story wise, almost all the games essentially take place in slightly different alternate realities that feature the same characters but different events, so the protagonists' actions generally don't carry over from game to game. The only exceptions to this are the Johto games and B2W2, so ideally you should play Kanto before Johto and Black before Black 2. Otherwise as I've said order doesn't matter if you don't mind missing out on some quality of life updates as you go backwards.
8d19c1 No.15306595
So, which gen 7 pokemon is gonna be playable in smash?
fda366 No.15306600
Pokemon is for children.
Digimon is for teens.
SMT is for adult.
Prove me wrong.
>>15305578
>The best part is since she's not in the humanoid egg group, you don't have to worry about eggs
That's the worst part.
fda366 No.15306618
>>15300700
> it will be the culmination of all the previous games features.
If only. Pokemon seems to add a couple of gimmick features in every new game that people like only to drop them forever after that game.
8d19c1 No.15306623
>>15303047
>If you can't impregnate your pokemon why bother
Maybe you can, if it's in the humanshape group. Or ask Jirachi for help
>>15306600
Kicking a ball is also for children
fda366 No.15306630
>>15306623
>Kicking a ball is also for children
But not exclusively aimed at them.
fda366 No.15306636
>>15303047
Everytime I see this fucker's name I can only think of an image of him grinning with text below saying Reggie Fills-Anime Grills
5bec42 No.15306690
>>15306595
>height 7'10" / 12'06" / 13'09" / 24'07" depending on the forme
hopefully he's small enough for smash, I really like that forme's design, looks kind of insectoid but the body is a dragon skull
>>15306600
This chart is probably the only accurate public data we have access to about this kid of thing and it's for (((Go))), but still.
Also who actually plays digimon? I don't think teens do nowadays, anywhere.
Also also, most SMT games are rated B or C in Japan which is early to mid teen.
70daa1 No.15306928
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41e897 No.15306995
Do you like collecting shit?
Do you like turn based rock paper scissors?
Do you like exploring shit?
Do you like cute girls?
If you said yes to half of that, chances are you'll like Pokeyman to some extent.
8d19c1 No.15307007
>>15306995
>Do you like collecting shit?
i like collecting lifeforms and mytholgical entities
>Do you like turn based rock paper scissors?
it's all right
>Do you like exploring shit?
eh
>Do you like cute girls?
yes.
You should mention monsters specifically, they're the main reason i'm still with this declining franchise.
c45fde No.15307138
>>15303007
>US / UM
Ended up getting US (second hand as recommended!). Didn't play much yet - we'll see.
c6e1ff No.15307199
>>15305578
>>15306623
>Implying that breeding rules of Pokemons can apply to humans as well
>>15306600
>SMT is for adult.
>Prove me wrong.
Pic related
>>15306995
Funny you could say the same for Digimon, Monster Rancher, etc. if you take out the turn based then you increase the possibilities
cef200 No.15307307
>>15305578
>you don't have to worry about eggs
Humans are human shame + Field group. Pic related, her father was an eeveelution.
55bef6 No.15307375
>>15307307
Wait. Humans can breed with Pokemon lore wise? Your fucking shit posting right? Please tell me this is a shit post.
cef200 No.15307392
>>15306595
I WANT Necrozma. I've always wanted legends or mythics as the playable pokemon since everyone seeing it would go "Oh shit, it's that tough motherfucker", like they did with Mewtwo. Everything else is too subjective to "well this one is MY favorite!"
>Pikachu
Mascot, even if I don't give a fuck.
>Jigglypuff
re-use of kirby's assets and a joke character
>Mewtwo
Legend and popular
>pichu
Pikachu clone and joke
>Pokemon trainer
A nod to Red and the original G1 starters
>Lucario
forced advertisement for a shitty movie that no one liked and had higher priority of inclusion over mewtwo.
>greninja
discount shiek that no one plays with
It ticks me off, but I want more legends since no one will argue about their power but everything else is just a pissing contest of "no I want MY favorite".
That said, I get the feeling Decideueye will be picked. I'm not happy with it but I guess that's one water starter, one fire starter, and one grass starter.
019368 No.15307408
>>15307375
In theory they probably can, its stated they were once the same thing.
215bbc No.15307425
>>15307408
>No literal translation for comparison
cef200 No.15307451
>>15307375
no, it's part of the lore. Humans and pokemon were "the same species" back in the before time. [something] happened (likely Necrozma crashing into the pokemon world and scattering it's manipulative crystalized light) that caused pokemon to be able to jump forward in evolution in a single lifetime, while humans were given the ability to have great compassion and empathy.
The clue are:
>humans and pokemon were "the same"
>necrozma crashed in the human world due to it's compassion for the megopolins and how it wouldn't fight back when they tried to control it
>necrozma's light can do drastic things
>it makes totem pokemon and is the cause behind Z crystals and Z attacks
>likely the origin of evolution stones, mega stones, and even evolution as a whole
>when it's weak in the human world, you share part of your life energy with it and it wakes up, wanting to go with you due to it's 255 capture ratio
>when Necrozma burst changes into it's true form, it resembles a mega evolution
>when you coax it to do it's Z move, your trainer is completely exhausted as you give your light to it
>it pulls the light and lifeforce from all things to perform the attack
Necrozma's lack of policing the ultra wormholes likely lead to the ancestors of what we know as legendaries raiding the pokemon world. This results in Arceus and the re-shaping of Sinnoh, Hoenn and the fight between Groudon and Kyogre, and so on. We know through Cosmog that an ultra beast that lives in the human world for enough generations will become a pokemon, and due to Necrozma simply being in the pokemon world for so long, it also is a pokemon. Adding to it, the ultra wormholes have EVERY legendary pokemon. the implication between mew and mewtwo is a flipflop per generation: a mew births a mewtwo, a mewtwo births a mew
So yeah.
fb4fec No.15307484
>>15300434
Basically, the games come in pairs which are the same, then an enhanced version or sequel may come out.
Each new group takes place in a different location with a different story and different pokemon.
Each generation adds more to the formula, but its basically the same game with graphical updates, new characters, new moves, and new mechanics.
A reason to play them chronologically is to be able to have a complete collection. If you play the first two generations on 3ds, you can transfer pokemon from them to 6th and 7th gen. 3rd and 4th have ways to transfer to the next gen up, and by 5th gen, you can use Pokebank, which is a database to house pokemon from 6th and 7th gen.
c9e662 No.15307500
>>15307451
But that's JUST A THEORY
fb4fec No.15307521
>>15307375
It's a joke. Valierie is just a furry.
1adfa1 No.15307524
>>15307451
Wouldnt a more plausible explenation for all the legendaries appearing in wormholes be that they're "fallers" like Looker?
cef200 No.15307534
>>15307524
Probably similar, however I should point out that >>15307392 is an official image of Necrozma fending off the legendary pokemon from Ultra Megopolis.
fb4fec No.15307538
>>15307524
weren't the wormholes created by Hoopa messing with alternate realities?
1adfa1 No.15307545
>>15307534
Ultra Wormholes are a plot device with no rhyme or reason,chances are those legendaries have to come from somewhere(like the "OG universe" without Mega evos for example).
Them coming from the "ultra dimension"/their own dimension seems nonsense considering that they look nothing like UBs and Mewtwo was explicitly said to be a clone of Mew with no retcon in sight.
1adfa1 No.15307546
>>15307538
Those were the ORAS holes/hoopes,we're talking about SM/USUM Ultra buttholes.
cef200 No.15307575
>>15307545
>explicitly said to be a clone
find one game dex entry that points out mewtwo is a clone. The only thing said in any of the games is that mew was experimented on, mewtwo was born, mewtwo fragged the lab and then hid in cerulean cave. The clone shit is from the anime.
1adfa1 No.15307594
>>15307575
Well shit,guess I misremembered.
Still, Mewtwo is tied to the specific Rocket incident and the "all legendaries come from another universe/dimension" seems like a serious reaching/cop out/dumb explenation.
c6e1ff No.15307603
>>15307575
Japanese version tells the same story or that's just the ones translating who fucked up with the lore again?
cef200 No.15307611
>>15307594
>Mewtwo is tied to the specific Rocket incident
Can't confirm that either. The lone scientists (it was a team in the (((localized version))) of the games) who came across mew and studied her and the dex mentions genetic experimentation on mew (which discovered mew could learn any TM/hm and seemed to have a weird code that made her seem to be the basis of which all pokemon come from)
>>15307603
Japanese version there is largely the same, except that it's a single person who found mew (who is the old man in lavender town who takes care of the orphaned pokemon) and not a team.
On another note ,I'd want Necrozma in smash bros largely just so that this music could be used for it's trailer.
4aa4e9 No.15307694
>>15307575
>Mewtwo isn't a clone because Mew gave birth to it
You do know how clones are made, right anon? You're not some smooth-brained faggot who watches too much science fiction and thinks all clones are grown in vats, are you?
9aee69 No.15307955
>>15307611
>it's a single person who found mew (who is the old man in lavender town who takes care of the orphaned pokemon)
Where does it imply it's Mr. Fuji? I know it's clear that both he and Blaine worked at the Lab on Cinnabar thanks to FRLG, but do you have evidence to back that up?
>>15307694
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't clones meant to be exact copies of their parents? Or is your understanding of cloning from MGS? Mewtwo is more like a modified clone than anything, I don't know the exact term for that. Definitely some sort of genetically modified organism.
53c843 No.15308013
I was never really into pokemon, never played it when it was popular. Just recently I got a copy of emerald for a couple bucks and it gave me the itch bad.I got alpha sapphire and i've been having a good time, it really fixes a lot of the strange shit from emerald. When I saw the exp share gives 50 percent to all party members I figured that was broken but i've made it to slatport and I realized that was a fucking great decision. Now instead of having 2 or 3 pokemon that are leveled and ready to go I can focus more on party comp than trying to grind out a couple of power users with TM slaves following along. That was something that always turned me off when I read about pokemon, I like party based RPGs but the concept of power leveling always seemed like a strange form of autism.
For a series that's been running as long as it has, i'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a serious dip in quality. I picked up alpha sapphire expecting modern garbage with a bad translation and babby mechanics, but no, it's a good remake and the changes that are present make sense. The only thing I find disconcerting is from looking on the wiki, I see some really fucking stupid pokemon concepts. I'll probably try out some of the other games after I beat this one, but something about those designs in gen 4 and 5 confuses me.
33b0ed No.15308014
>>15307451
God, I love The Light that Burns the Sky.
34c001 No.15308030
>>15300434
Yes and no. I assume the older ones will be a little better but they all have the same system but with different pokemon.
excuse me for degeneracy but my major enjoyment with is their porn
The game isn't that fun honestly
>>15305963
That's just Pokemon GO to the polls though
Right? please
6fbc8c No.15308035
>>15308030
i think hes referring to "lets go".
if it makes you feel any better i seriously doubt will become the new standard for pokemon games, although i also doubt this is the only time well see it.
34c001 No.15308042
>>15308035
No idea what lets go is, but if you can't do pokemon stuff in pokemon then what the fuck is the point? Next you'll be saying that you have to pay for this shit or something and it's nintendo so I would have few doubts.
019368 No.15308049
>>15308030
As a point
>>15306016
One of the weirder unconfirmed things for lets go is that we've had no signs of items or abilities.
4b5358 No.15308068
>>15308042
>he doesn't know about Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee
I hope you like a new gen 1 remake with no wild battles and the cspturing system from Pokemon Go
d141f1 No.15308079
>>15308013
You're definitely in the minority here, then. ORAS were typically viewed terribly both here and on cuckchan /vp/.
> it's a good remake and the changes that are present make sense
See that's the thing: ORAS is a good remake. But that's all they seemed to focus on: remaking Ruby and Sapphire with some extra bells and whistles. Meanwhile the previous two remake game pairs gave us some expanded post game (Sevii Islands in FRLG, some extra quests and the Battle Frontier in HGSS), extra characters or more character interactions (the gym leader rematches in HGSS especially exemplify this), following Pokemon in HGSS, etc. Meanwhile ORAS is just the same romp through Hoenn as Ruby and Sapphire with some extra bells and whistles, while nice to have, aren't that fulfilling. Plus they had the nerve to show us the model of the Battle Frontier's Battle Tower in the game saying "oh this is under construction ;^)" instead of just implementing the Battle Tower OR Battle Frontier. Hell they never even brought back the Battle Hill from Emerald, which could have been revamped to make use of the QR code reading capability of the 3DS to work like the original (Japanese version) Battle Hill, where you scanned codes to add in trainers and floors to fight through. Plus the Delta Episode was garbage due to it being tacked on (and required to go through in the post game). PLUS, they didn't implement features from XY either like trainer customization or the Friend Safari. ORAS were only good remakes, but FRLG and HGSS showed us how much a remake could go beyond just remaking a game with some updated mechanics and graphics.
34c001 No.15308081
>>15308068
I think it'd be more enjoyable to staple my dick to the wall
6fbc8c No.15308110
>>15308068
>>15308081
we might at least get a nice soundtrack out of it. i doubt your staple gun can do that.
53c843 No.15308117
>>15308079
what I look for in a remake is if I play the game and instinctively know what to do because it feels like I've played it before. I don't really care about new content in a remake so much as being able to jump right in and play. I never played X and Y so I don't know about those changes. I'm sure alpha sapphire is considered disappointing for long time fans, but as someone that doesn't really play the games, i'm having a good time. Since I don't know the series that well, I don't really know any of the nuances, I just appreciate the improvements since my experience with the series was going directly from emerald to alpha sapphire. And in that light, it's a fairly significant jump to me.
I plan to play more of the games so maybe my opinion will change, but so far i'm having a good time playing AS.
34c001 No.15308118
>>15308110
Maybe, pokemon does often have some decent music at least and yeah you're right, MUH DIK is a bit too big for my stapler.
21037d No.15308122
>>15305576
>says this despite the two console RPG Pokemon games ripping the battle engine and everything else integral to the actual game from the games Game Freak made
Whereas Gamefreak would rip everything out added to a game, have a piss poor story, call Megas balancing,
>>15305991
From what I've heard since the Yellow remakes is that not even their sheep like what they did.
>>15306004
The Switch Pokemon game is being made by X/Ys team who will use G7s engine.
>>15306016
>Thats pretty much been the case since gen 3
G6; Sinnoh had Barry and Unova had Cheren and Hugh. It wasn't until Kalos where they started going the ass kisser route.
>>15306595
The product of Lucario fucking an Electabuzz.
>>15306600
>Pokemon is for children
Pokemon is for toddlers, Dragon Quest Monsters is for children.
>>15306995
>Pokemon
>exploring
In what fucking universe? Also they're shitting out in the waifubait department.
>>15307611
If they just cut down on the noise, the new composers music wouldn't be so bad.
>>15308013
>>15308079
ORAS weren't good remakes, they'd be decent at best from tuning up the gameplay and updating the graphics but they've totally neglected the content and advances that have been added in Emerald and later games.
d141f1 No.15308129
>>15308122
>ORAS weren't good remakes, they'd be decent at best from tuning up the gameplay and updating the graphics but they've totally neglected the content and advances that have been added in Emerald and later games.
Congrats, you just repeated what I said in the post I had already made, you dipshit
86afcf No.15308142
>>15308030
>gif doesn't even loop properly
I always said Patreon leads to lower quality.
d141f1 No.15308159
>>15308142
Probably because it's unfinished, but diives is already low quality even without properly looping gifs
34c001 No.15308165
>>15308142
That's my own edit, didn't do it well enough. I wanted to skip out the beginning part and the end and simply have the middle-ish part and then did a reverse loop but forgot to take out another few frames which resulted in that.
d141f1 No.15308231
>>15308200
Please consider suicide
6fbc8c No.15308245
>>15308231
hey im not the homo here
21037d No.15308267
>>15308129
You think they're good even when they lack advances and have less content than an RPG from over a decade ago. I'm saying they're decent if all you care about is the competitive scene but what they've done make it seem more like a remaster and barely a RPG.
f6cac6 No.15308298
>>15305547
Why would you do any of that? my first instinct as a kid was to use my starter for everything, because since it's your first pokemon it's naturally going to have more experience and be higher level. And just by fighting every trainer pokemon, it easily levels up enough to steamroll the whole game. And I literally do this without fainting even a single wild pokemon. Pokemon requires no grinding and no paying attention to EVs or IVs unless you're some retard who thinks that it has a good battle system and is worth trying to play multiplayer. In which case the training aspect is moot because everyone will just be using perfect stats, so training is a prerequisite and not something that you can use to customize your character. Then it comes down to praying to the RNG gods that you get more crits and fewer misses than the opponent.
How does someone have BW as his first game, anyway? Are we at the point where we're past Hoennbabbys and have moved on to Gen V babbys?
>>15306583
They don't take place in alternate realities. They just stopped having meaningful continuity after Gen 2. But it still gets brought up here and there. But yes, Gen 2 being the only one that gives enough of a shit to actually carry on from the previous game is one reason it's the best.
d141f1 No.15308357
>>15308267
Congrats, you completely regurgitated what I have already said, you dipshit
cef200 No.15308416
>>15307955
The only implications it's Fuji is pokemon the origin, which is dubious at best.
>>15307694
>>15307955
A clone is 100% identical to the adult it is cloned from. it's implied the testing done on mew affected her offspring, yet for the "most savage pokemon", all it did was hide in a cave to be away from humans, and considering the cave is loaded with pokemon, it isn't exactly performing a massacre on everything it sees.
However, there is a problem with even trying to say it's a clone.
THERE IS MORE THAN ONE
We all know there is the one that destroyed the cinnebar lab and ran to the cerulean cave. There is also another in the hidden pokemon village in X and Y. That's not even getting to the point that they populate other ultra wormhole accessed areas, meaning that, while rare in the pokemon world, they are not singular and the "mutation" is natural. it may be sexual dimorphism with the males being larger and more powerful, but not as technically apt to learning
cef200 No.15308422
>>15308014
>"Everyone! Share your energy with me!"
916bcd No.15308481
>>15307955
>Where does it imply it's Mr. Fuji?
Notes in Cinnabar Mansion point that on him.
Especially when Fuji wrote them himself.
f9e9b5 No.15308508
>Bought a 3DS in 2013 to play X
>It was shit
>At least I'll be able to play the half-decent RSE remake that comes out in a couple years
>It comes out
>It's complete shit and far worse than the original games
At least I was able to play Uprising.
fda366 No.15308678
>>15307451
>Webm
Dragon Ball Z has changed.
d141f1 No.15308684
>>15308508
>Pokemon Uprising
>good
174c51 No.15308687
just play pokemon gemme on pc
f9e9b5 No.15308696
>>15308684
Kid Icarus you dumdum.
1adfa1 No.15308701
>>15308416
Or it may be that "canonically" never got caught and it instead roamed around.The only Mewtwo caught was the one Giovanni has and that is an alternative universe(probably).
d141f1 No.15308784
>>15308696
Uprising wasn't THAT good either, it should have been a Wii or Wii U game considering its control scheme makes it perfect for either console
640fd8 No.15308802
>>15307500
a A҉ GAM҉E THEO҉RY
000000 No.15308841
Have you ever made fake pokemons?
d141f1 No.15308854
>>15308841
I had a whole fakedex drawn in a little notebook when I was like 8 or so. I can't believe it's been almost 20 years since that and Game Freak still hasn't made a dolphin Pokemon like I made yet
247256 No.15308863
>>15300434
Never. You get the odd cameo, but that's it.
Only exception is that Gold/Silver/Crystal are sequels to Red/Blue in a way.
And Black 2/White 2 are sequels to Black/White.
Remakes are better to play usually- except for remakes of Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire. Some say they are easier than the originals and I kinda agree. Though gen 3 (Ruby/Sapphire/Fire Red/Leaf Green) can be annoying since type determines if it's a physical or special attack. This in turn screws over a few pokes.
If it's on the DS or arguably the Pokemon Colosseum games, you can't go wrong.
Usually you're better off with the "third" versions where possible (Crystal, Emerald, Platinum).
Foot note about Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon - read up/watch cutscenes of Sun/Moon. One character has a really good plot/character growth in one, and sucks in the sequel. Another has the inverse. Although the 3DS games (X/Y/Sun/Moon/Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon) are too easy due to trainers having very few Pokemon and never using items. It also solves the issue of buffing your Pokemon up and steam-rolling a whole team, but if you did that while healing you're ruining it anyway.
If you want a challenging RPG- go elsewhere.
If you want a comfy RPG, a little customization with your squad, and a more relaxing time, then you're fine.
>>15307451
Based off this, I do remember a while back one of the devs explained an idea for X/Y that was scrapped.
> Team Flare were more like "men in black" and mysterious/odd.
> Turns out they're aliens, and so are all Pokemon.
> The psychic gym leader was also going to be this alien species.
They scrapped it since the idea of making Pokemon (a "wonderous creature") something like an alien felt too jarring and betraying what the games had built them up as.
I guess elements of that bled over into the Ultra Beasts and the Ultra Recon Squad.
Also, your mom in Sun/Moon games might be the same as the Lass outside of Saffron City who does that meowing thing and loves cat Pokemon. The protag & family is said to have moved from Kanto. During Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, an NPC realizes your mom is "The Kanto Cat Girl" or something to that effect.
000000 No.15308891
>>15308854
>I can't believe it's been almost 20 years since that and Game Freak still hasn't made a dolphin Pokemon like I made yet
Oh hey, i recently developed a concept for a dolphin as well (a late game single stage psychic/dragon type)
d141f1 No.15308897
>>15308891
Well it doesn't help that literally everybody has been begging for a dolphin Pokemon since like Gen 1. We've got nearly every other aquatic mammal covered besides dolphins.
>Psychic/Dragon
Why?
5bec42 No.15308907
>>15308891
>another psychic dragon
no thanks, bring on the unexplored poison and bug dual types
5bec42 No.15308928
>>15308841
Sometimes I like to think about fake Megas and the like, like how they would have achieved the Gen 4 remakes. Right now all the gen 4 box legends are on the lower end of the totem pole so Gamefreak would need to give them some kind of buff to make them relevant again like they did with Rayquaza and Groudon. I also really want one of the next box legends to be a poison and steel type with levitate.
20228c No.15308946
I remember when Pokemon came out I pegged it in the same category as MtG and the comic book scene at the time. Calculated products designed to give an artificial collector feel in order to milk spoiled kid's parents. Imagine buying the same game twice, ridiculous. Seeing how those kids grew up into even more vapid consumers with adult bodies and wallets, it seems the training wheels were effective, or maybe some people are just empty and dumb.
d141f1 No.15308965
>>15308946
> Imagine buying the same game twice, ridiculous
Nobody did that, you dumbshit retard. Why are you so fucking stupid?
20228c No.15309000
>>15308965
They sold two copies of the same game, right? No need to get so angry because you got played as a child and refuse to grow up and see it.
5bec42 No.15309042
>>15309000
actually that's done to encourage trading, one of the core elements of the game
sure there are some spergs who bought both versions but generally that's not what happens
000000 No.15309048
>>15308897
In my language, the dolphin is called Delfin, so i thought there was a relation to the oracle of delphi (there wasn't), hence the psychic type. Delphi was guarded by the dragon Python, who had another name: Delphyne. After being slain by Apollo, the oracle maidens were called "pythia" to honor the dragon, so i integrated the dragon type into the pokemon. Despite being wrong on the connection of dolphins to Delphi, i kept going because i figured the pun would still work (in my language at least.)
>>15308907
>no thanks, bring on the unexplored poison and bug dual types
we already had a poison/dragon seahorse in gen 6, dragalge.
and i already made bug/dragon pseudolegendary desmoxytes dragon millipede.
20228c No.15309082
>>15309042
Trading, collecting, and dual versions were designed and implemented in order to give a feeling of achievement and 'keeping up with joneses' mentality in order to get kids addicted, yes. Beginning of games as psychological products designed to milk kids culminating in the current f2p microtransaction craze.
d141f1 No.15309084
>>15309000
They were two versions of the same game and the official reason for there being two versions is to encourage trading as a mechanic and to siblings in families the feeling they each got a unique game.
> No need to get so angry because you got played as a child and refuse to grow up and see it.
>only ever played one version per generation
>I got played
Yeah sure, faglord
20228c No.15309107
>>15309084
So your parents were smart, good. Hopefully you never bought any of the other merchandising either.
d141f1 No.15309126
>>15309107
I think you might be projecting a bit
20228c No.15309158
>>15309126
No, I'm talking about the nature of the series, that's why your specific experience is irrelevant. Pokemon was a worldwide success and it sold all kinds of products, all of which was aided by the design of the games encouraging compulsive consumption to compete with your friends, it's obvious.
d141f1 No.15309192
>>15309158
Okay yeah you're projecting
8d092e No.15309200
>>15306600
>Pokemon is for children.
>Digimon is for teens.
>SMT is for adult.
And Dragon Quest is for the forever young at heart.
20228c No.15309223
>>15309192
I'm not projecting, don't even know what that would mean in this context, but you are certainly deflecting.
5bec42 No.15309954
>>15309223
do you ever think it maybe might have been succesful just because people liked it
8d19c1 No.15312157
>>15309954
"people" have shit taste
f8e21d No.15312180
>>15312157
But what if it's (((you))) who has a shit taste?
8d19c1 No.15312214
>>15312180
I do because i keep playing these, though i haven't bought one since Y
ea46e8 No.15312361
>>15300434
If you're speaking about the non-spinoff games then yes, they're pretty much the same with constant improvements over time. And no, no reason to play them chronologically unless you plan on making some sort of study of how the games have changed over time. If you didn't jump in the bandwagon in the 90s and early 2000s don't bother, just play the latest one.
f2d119 No.15312725
7d20ed No.15312763
>>15300465
I don't get it.
75929d No.15312784
>>15312361
>>15300434
>just play the latest one
No, don't. Sun & Moon sucks. Try out Black & White, the last good generation.
179c91 No.15312879
Play pokemon crystal then either heart gold or soul silver and then play B/W 1 and 2.
There, thats all the pokemon games worth playing. If you can't stomach any of these then don't bother finishing either.
75929d No.15312935
>>15300652
Bruh USUM was just as garbage. You don't even get to fight Guzma at the end, who is literally every Tumblr "girl's" wet fantasy.
7d20ed No.15312955
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b13ace No.15312960
>>15300700
is there /v/ recommends for 3DS? Never bothered with it so I dont know of anything else besides Pokemon and okamiden
bef2ff No.15312961
>>15300465
She fused with one at one point so she counts.
9e6a76 No.15312969
>>15312960
Maybe ask in the thread for recommended charts that's up right now. I've been looking for one myself.
8d19c1 No.15312970
>>15312961
Her hair is shit
2b4f5e No.15312981
>>15304965
>Fun, budget decks to play
I got you buddy. You can buy a theme deck and be half way to slaying with this nigger right here.
9e6a76 No.15312989
>>15312970
Your hair is shit.
efe19c No.15313003
>>15312981
>160 HP
>20+ damage for just 1 energy
What the fuck, the power creep is just as retarded as Yu-Gi-Oh.
Last time I played the Pokémon TCG was generation 2.
2b4f5e No.15313022
>>15313003
Yeah it's pretty outrageous compared to the cards from the 90s or 2000s. I think having overall bigger numbers works better though, since it means there's more space to have variation in individual pokemon and how much damage they do.
96ad6d No.15313155
>>15300434
The games, at least to me, are a story, and you should play them chronologically. That way, you will see the changes thru ought the series, and come to appreciate them
Don't bother with the old gameboy ones, if you didn't grow up with them, they're nothing special, and they remade them
Speaking of which, the way you should play them:
GBA era: Fire red/Leaf green first, and then Emerald.
Optional: Gamecube games Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are unique in that they both have exclusively double battles thru out the entire game, and that they have "Shadow" pokemon. Story and universe is also much darker, you should give em a go on an emulator
DS era: Heartgold/Soul silver is a direct sequel to Fire red/Leaf green, but the gameplay mechanics changed so much, you should still play GBA and GC games first. After that, play platinum, and then either your choice of black or white, and it's sequel.
3DS era: Not much to say here. No "True" version of the game, since it was cancelled, so your choice of either Y or X. If you didn't bother with the GC games, this will be your first true 3D Pokemon experience. The remakes, as far as ORAS goes, are both just inferior version of emerald, with many features stripped, so don't bother. Last game so far is either ultra moon, or ultra sun, your choice, and that's where the story ends. Don't bother getting the Let's go! games, they're garbage designed for normalfags
2e5f41 No.15314957
>>15305762
>>15312981
Got a friend who’s building me a Raichu deck which he thinks can be competitive so hopefully that pans out. It’d be neat if I could figure out a competitive lopunny, mewtwo, or slowpoke deck.
a2615a No.15315074
>>15312784
Sun and Moon aren't the latest ones you dweeb
>>15312955
>fixed
>still looks like shit
04ef4f No.15315212
>>15314957
Raichu is fine but it loses the large majority of its power cards after worlds but at least it doesnt die to buzz anymore as much.
Unfortunately Slowpoke is terrible and so are its evolutions.
efe19c No.15315566
What is the best emulator to run Black2/White2?
179c91 No.15316276
>>15315566
MelonDS or Drastic
640fd8 No.15316351
>>15306016
>>15308122
gen 3 had two rivals, Wally and the other player character, so it was weird. On the one hand you had Wally not being an asshole but rather a sickly kid you only fight twice and rematch, while the other character fills in for his fights.
Dude was really passive. Barry was "nice" because he was super hyperactive and competitive, Cheren was stoic like a brick wall and was quick to judge, Hugh was less concerned about you and more about beating the shit out of Team Plasma over his vendetta, with you basically just being a training roadblock, a positive rival to get stronger with and an equal.
Then we have the ass kissers. They're set up to be a bunch of friends with you, let you choose your nickname, and basically all that dumb shit. They're constantly at your heels whereever you go, you get forced into romantic moments with one, and basically there was no resistance with them, even them fighting you felt like it was just because it was required.
Gladion from poke-Hawaii doesn't even count since he has no real reason to oppose you outside of the villain team obligations, and he just doesn't give a single shit.
They had this whole thing going on where their rivals were evolving in character, from the absolutely grand motherfucker that was Gary "You smell like a loser" Oak, to Hugh who actually was a positive rival like the classic definiton.
Now it just feels like they're phoning it in. It's not fucking hard to make an antagonistic character that isn't evil.
280c40 No.15316385
hg/ss is the best set of classic pokemon games.
bw/b2w2 are pretty ok, the first ones to introduce reusable TM's which is probably the best multi-generational improvement to gameplay since the special split and the elemental special/physical split. Some of the new pokemon designs are shitty but a few were acceptable.
gen 6 is pretty shitty. X/Y is unnecessarily convoluted, the world is barren and the evil organization is literally a bunch of flaming homosexuals. ORAS is a shitty remake of RSE without the definitive edition, the ash collecting is even more cancer and the regi quest is a fucking joke. Postgame is cancerous in all 6th gen releases. Mega evolutions broke the fucking meta along with fairys being blatantly overpowered
SuMo is hot shit, last 2 generations had a lot of cutscene bloat but SuMo takes it to a new level of bullshit. the islands are small as shit and the cutscenes are meant to make up for that. Ultra SuMo are what should have been the basegame but as such they're shitty "second installations" it has even less content than fucking 6th gen the new pokemon are furbait and there's even more cancer with Z-moves.
8a8216 No.15316411
>>15316351
I've always wanted them to do a rival that started out friendly but either got pissed as you kept one upping them and/or went off and joined the evil team of the game. The only one that came close was the XY rival who made a couple of quotes voicing their displeasure of getting beaten every time.
>>15316385
You type like you're underaged or English is your second language
>Mega evolutions broke the fucking meta along with fairys being blatantly overpowered
I wish I could be as retarded as you to believe this. Mega Evolutions didn't break "the meta". In VGC 2014 and 2015 they were relatively unseen outside of Mega Kanga. Megas in Smogon's tiers weren't even that impactful either. The only ones that made a huge splash were Mega Kanga and Mega Gengar. The Fairy type wasn't overpowered either.
> the new pokemon are furbait
>Pokemon
>not having furbait
Pick one.
>and there's even more cancer with Z-moves.
>Z-moves
>cancer
Pick one
9fbb38 No.15317022
Pokemon is a lot of fun. Itand Star Wars was pretty much the entirety of my childhood. You have the main entries going from the originals red/blue/yellow all the way to ultra sun and ultra moon(tbh I didn’t really enjoy the games after BW2.) then you have the various spin offs and stand alones such as
The Pokemon ranger games
Pokemon ranger
Pokemon ranger guardian signs
Pokemon ranger Shadows of Almia
Pokemon mystery dungeon series
Pokemon mystery dungeon blue/red rescue team
(These two were a bit odd as blue rescue was released on the DS and red rescues was a GBA)
PMD explorers of Time/darkness/sky
(Sky is a remake like emerald in gem 3.good bonus content and my favorite of the mystery dungeons)
PMD Gates to infinity
(Haven’t played this one yet.)
Pokemon super mystery dungeon.
There was also a PMD game that was released only in japan so I dont know much about that one.
Pokémon Colosseum
Pokemon XD gale of darkness
Pokemon battle revolution
Pokemon stadium 1&2
Battle revolution I never was interested in, it Lacked a story mode, tournament mode and you were pretty much required to have a copy of diamond or pearl to unlock all the features. But for Colosseum and gale I would recommend. Yes they are very different in that you cant catch Wild Pokémon, so you’re limited in the pool of possible Pokémon you can catch. But I enjoyed the story.
Pokemon pinball
PP Ruby &Saphire
Pinball was fun. Though I will say it was difficult to try to catch all Pokémon.
There are several other titles I haven’t posted because I simply dont know them and I dont want to give my opinion on something I know nothing about. But I will say I’m confused as to why they’re making a mainline release more like Pokémon go. Casual players are not the primary fan base.at least I hope they arent
c4cbc7 No.15317075
>>15308030
>There was also a PMD game that was released only in japan so I dont know much about that one.
It was pretty much a smaller Gates to Infinity, which is considered shit; i think they were for the wii.
03f0ce No.15317290
In terms of the main series, there are three DS games which still stand up as truly 'great': HeartGold / SoulSilver, Black / White, and Black / White v2.
HG/SS has that top-tier OST, expansive maps of Kanto and Johto (from the GB / GBC games) with tonnes of good shit to find everywhere, there's the popular "monsters walk behind you and react to their environment" feature, and it's the series' best example of semi-open exploration (at least during the main plot).
B/W is also known as "The one with an actually good plot", and the only time they set it apart by having none of the older games' monster species show up (until post-credits). The linear world map serves the plot well, the music remains top-tier, and the sprite animations are, even now, superior to most of the recent 3D shit. You can also import your HG/SS monsters at an unlockable post-credits area.
Bv2/Wv2 were the last sprite-based games in the main series, and they went fuckin' crazy with the amount of good shit they packed in.
Transferring your save data from the equivalent "v1" game affects the plot and triggers special events, and there's finally an option to change the game's overall difficulty (hidden behind an unlockable, for some reason).
The map from the "v1" game(s) got significantly remixed and added to, leading to fucktonnes of excellent 'extra shit' to do both during and after the main plot, most notably a "world tournament" featuring every Gym Leader and League Champion in the series up to that point.
Also, if you (for some reason) want to continue into the 3DS games and take your old monsters with you, then that's totally an option.
Other anons have already explained what's good about the GB / GBC / GBA / GC / 3DS games, but on the original DS, you can safely stick to just these three.
efe19c No.15317433
The best of each generation (not counting remakes since they're remakes):
Yellow
Crystal
Emerald
Platinum
Black2/White2
You should at least play these games so you can experience every Pokémon generation and appreciate new features in chronological order.
Don't play generation 6 or 7, they're awful.
The remakes only matter for nostalgic purposes. If you've never played Pokémon these games will do nothing for you, they're "HD remakes" of older generations.
9e6a76 No.15317504
>>15317022
I recently went back to the Pinball games. While the first pinball game is a blast of nostalgia for me as it was my first ever pokemon game, after playing it a bit it felt rather clunky. The physics of the pinball are rather weird and sometimes straight up screw you over.
Pinball Ruby/Sapphire is a complete upgrade to it. Gameplay feels better. Graphics are naturally better. More pokemon to catch and more bonus games to play.
I don't see much reason to play the original anymore, unless you're a real sucker for nostalgia and don't mind the pinball sometimes straight up phasing through the flippers if it moves fast enough.
I want to try the Pokemon Ranger games, but I'm not sure if they're any good.
c81a28 No.15317513
>>15300434
>Are they all the same?
Not really, but you wouldn't really want to go through all of them, there's no real reason to. Even if you're a hardcore autistic mother fucker who wants to catch them all, it's quite impossible to do, because many of the pokemon are locked behind events, giveaways and DLC codes that it's become near impossible to do.
023e51 No.15317597
>>15317513
You're in for dissapointment in the new games, anon. Save for Arceus, they're all catchcable
20e6a2 No.15317652
Are any of the spin offs actually good?
023e51 No.15317657
>>15317652
A lot of people see them better than the mainline games. Make out of that what you will.
9fbb38 No.15318300
>>15317504
I enjoyed them, though it has been a long time since I played any of them so that might just be nostalgia talking. I will say they’re pretty expensive. I think I saw Shadows of Almia and guardian signs go up above $60 on Amazon.
>>15317652
Depending on which spin-off and which of the main games we’re comparing yes
9fbb38 No.15318302
>>15317657
Second part was meant for you >>15318300
9e6a76 No.15318473
>>15318300
>I think I saw Shadows of Almia and guardian signs go up above $60 on Amazon.
Yeah, well it's not like I was planning on buying them anyway.
I'll give them a try though.
efe19c No.15321881
>>15317652
The TCG on GBC is good.
023e51 No.15321887
>>15318302
Aw, that's so sweet.
5bec42 No.15321917
>>15318473
make sure you have a good screen protector or play it on a DS you don't mind getting scratched up, Pokémon Rager RUINS touch screens but is otherwise pretty fun
5bec42 No.15321927
>>15308298
no, they really do take place in alternate realities, they started hinting at it in gen 6 before finally confirming it once and for all in gen 7. After Rainbow Rocket there's pretty much no arguing against the parallel universe stuff.
7f513d No.15321934
>>15307451
>Wingull literally gets nuked.
9e6a76 No.15322261
>>15321917
>Pokémon Rager RUINS touch screens
>Pokemon Rager
Seems accurate. And I can see why. Good thing I'm on an emulator. I only just started the first game and this capture mechanic is already infuriating me with how the pokemon just jump around endlessly, breaking your line.
9fbb38 No.15322709
>>15322261
Just wait until you face off against some of the harder bosses. Iirc in the first ranger game the trick is to never remove your stylus from the screen but you dont have to constantly be in a circle where they can attack your capture device. So long as it’s still on the screen you should be able to move it.im go8ng to go test that actually
9fbb38 No.15322903
Alright so after testing my own advice and remembering why the first Pokémon ranger was a huge pain at times I have learned that my advice is possible to follow.not always easy or feasible, but possibleYour styler only goes a certain length, so you can draw it long enough to move the anchor so that you wont be attacked but it’s very difficult, it’s a lot easier to shorten the styler by completing loops as close to the anchor as you can and that will help by giving the Pokémon a smaller target to either hit or walk into.
7d62eb No.15322911
>>15321927
>no team snagem or cipher
>no gonzap and miror b
fucking lame-o
a0cde0 No.15323198
>>15300434
The knock off games on the ds and 3ds (fossile hunter and yokai watch, among others) are better. You can turn off quest arrows in yo kai 1, which is nice, as it adds to the exploration. Probably just play the first two pokemon, though.
fb987a No.15323365
>>15317652
The Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon games are okay, specifically Red/Blue Rescue Team and Explorers of Sky. Haven't played past those, as I've heard they're not as good.
2b4f5e No.15323436
>>15314957
>>15315212
There's a whole bunch of electric-type support cards coming in the next set after rotation, so Raichu should be pretty viable though probably not top-tier. You still get Snuggly Generator fun, too.
9e6a76 No.15323630
FUCKING HERACROSS.
>>15322903
Yeah, that makes it a bit easier. Still this dude fucks up my day. Are the other games like this?
I don't think I can be arsed to play them if they didn't do something to make capturing, not necessarily easier, but at least not as infuriating.
9fbb38 No.15323772
>>15323630
Actually the games do get a bit easier regarding capture. There’s a new friendship meter that you fill up to capture Pokémon. So you can remove your styler to Avoid damage. But the meter slowly begins to drop if you haven’t completed any loops. But if you think heracross is bad just wait. It gets worse.
>>15323365
I’ve yet to play gatesto infinity but this anon >>15317075 said it wasn’t good so take that as you will super mystery dungeon I haven’t finished yet but I will say it’s alright. Comparable in story to red/blue rescue team so far. Though I will say I didn’t like how you start out as a child. It seems to me they were making this one in particular for younger players.
000000 No.15324749
>pokemon ranger on an emulator
What kind of tablet are you using? And why would you rather scratch a tablet than a cheap DS?
9e6a76 No.15324763
>>15324749
What makes you think I use a tablet? Ya know DeSmuME can use the mouse as a stylus, right?
And obviously I emulate because I don't have a DS.
000000 No.15324864
>>15323630
I think you're having a hardware problem if not a skill problem.
Tablet pens have far more weight than a small, thin plastic stick. Depending on tablet and emulator, you may also be having issues with the screen size, such as the emulation window being bigger than a DS screen or having no response when your pen leaves the window. A generally good strategy is short bursts of loops and then retreating/avoiding attacks. Drag the starting point of your capture line to good positions, then loop back. Try to see how the pokemon reacts to the capture line and what moves it can use; play around them. Different moves often have a different tell sign. The ranger sequels are far easier since you can lift your stylus at any time to completely avoid damage. Shadows of Almia has the decay of your capture progress set in faster and you can actually lose capture progress on the final boss thanks to its AoE spam. Guardian Signs is even easier because assists now directly fill capture progress and can be reused. Guardian signs has the best music and graphics.
Overall Ranger >> GS > SoA
>>15323772
Gates' two big problems are that it is short and easy. The story is on par with Rescue Team's and Explorers' and far better than Super's. Town building is a nice gimmick to give you more motivation to do quests other than obtaining specific items. The story is maybe half as long as that of Explorers. Hunger was removed except for a specific dungeon effect. Moves can level up which increases accuracy, damage and PP. The dungeon crawling takes place on the top screen and is more zoomed in than on the DS titles and you can no longer move via stylus. IQ was replaced by team wide skills you can find in treasure chests. The overworld design and music is better than in Super.
It's really a mixed bag, but by no means awful.
000000 No.15324887
>>15324763
>mouse
wew
Good luck inputting fast, precise inputs.
a246b5 No.15324895
>>15324749
>he doesn't play Pokemon Ranger games with a trackball mouse
000000 No.15324904
>>15324895
A trackball would probably be easier to use than a mouse because of lower weight and a better feeling for distance.
9e6a76 No.15324949
>>15324887
I know it's probably half the reason why I'm having trouble, but whatever. If I play long enough I'm sure I can get a feel for it with a mouse.
If not I'll just rage-quit and go back to playing pokemon romhacks or some shit.
04ef4f No.15325130
>>15323436
The nuzzle pikachu rotates unfortunately so the strat becomes a lot less good. After lost thunder ya its a very solid archetype
fed973 No.15325345
>>15323436
Good to hear, thanks. If the threads still around once my friend has built the deck I’ll post it.
9fbb38 No.15326067
>>15324864
Well thanks for the info. Going off just what that anon said I probably wouldn’t have bought it, I’ll take another look at and see what I think of it.
5ed851 No.15326482
They are all basically the same shit, so there's little reason to play the older games since all you do is miss out on incremental improvements.
Play Platnium, HGSS, BW/BW2, and if you like those you can consider checking out Emerald and FR/LG (which are good but outclasseed due to missing outt on gen 4's features) and XY/ORAS/SM/USM (whiich have a lot of neat stuff but are casualized as shit)
9e6a76 No.15326925
>>15326482
>XY/ORAS/SM/USM (whiich have a lot of neat stuff but are casualized as shit)
Which makes me think. Are romhacks for these newer games a thing? I wonder if there are any that overhaul and improve the difficulty like how VoltWhite2/BlazeBlack2 did.
03f0ce No.15327092
>>15326925
>Are romhacks for these newer games a thing?
Yes, but nowhere near the level of the sprite-based ones. Text edits, randomized wild encounters, and extremely basic model / texture / music / NPC swaps are all you'll find right now.
e6bff4 No.15327162
>>15326925
Supernova Sun & Penumbra Moon are basically those for Ultra Sun/Moon apparently.
e6bff4 No.15327195
>>15327162
Also this
https://github.com/kwsch/pk3DS
seems to be the only notable rom hacking tool i can find.
000000 No.15327537
You play it for the pokegirls
68d1d8 No.15327597
>>15327537
The trainers or the mons?
a246b5 No.15327638
3a5847 No.15328141
>>15300640
This. I just like new Pokegirls and Pokebros, including a few actually good Mega designs.
d58346 No.15328196
>want to try Emerald
>all the good romsites are down
>private tracker doesn't have them
>sketchy sites
>don't want to download potentially GBs of GBA ROMs for one game
Where the FUCK do I go?
6e20bd No.15328218
>>15328196
>find GBA dump torrent
>set everything to do not download
>set Emerald to something else, download it
>check if legit (https://datomatic.no-intro.org/?page=show_record&s=23&n=1961)
d58346 No.15328231
>>15328218
Found it in the Vola, thanks though.
8d19c1 No.15328235
>>15328141
> including a few actually good Mega designs.
which ones do you like? i personally like the ones that are "the base pokemon but more so" best, like Mega Charizard Y and Mega Metagross.
4c63d7 No.15328494
IMO don't bother with RBY or GSC. They won't appeal to you without the nostalgia that the oldtimers have.
Start with FR / LG, then HG / SS (so the region is still fresh in your mind, since you visit it again), then Emerald (this has a remake but it has many flaws compared to it - you can play it later if you want to). These are the 3 must plays. If you liked them, move on to Platinum (personally didn't like Sinnoh games at all…), then B/W, X/Y (didn't play personally, but will someday), OR/AS (played, kind of liked but very noticable causalization compared to Emerald), US/UM (playing right now, kind of fun and better than ORAS).
If you want any more details from me, just ask.
53c843 No.15329240
65b4b3 No.15329751
good games but everyone here will say no because they are either blinded by nostalgia or just plain retarded
5bec42 No.15330132
uploading Perfect Crystal the Moemon versions of Platinum and HeartGold as well as to the vola since they're the only games from the series I have on my hard drive
8e9bde No.15330142
>>15300434
>Is there a reason to play them chronologically?
Good god no.
604804 No.15331847
I'm not sure what's worse. Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon half-assing and gutting it's story that it ruins the entire plot or that I actually care about the lore of Gen 7 to begin with.
5bec42 No.15331947
>>15331847
what do you mean by gutting the story, I liked the changes in Ultra, made the story a little less tedious
604804 No.15336555
>>15331947
Necrozma felt shoehorned and was lame, Ultra Recon peeps were useless, Guzma and Lusamine's motivations got worse, the lillie/lusamine dynamic was greatly reduced and I don't remember her ever having her own big moment of standing up to her like before (could be wrong). Everything else was practically the same (especially the first half or so of the game) so it sacrificed key moments of the original without really adding anything new or good.
If I recall correctly the only person who got buffed in the story compartment was Hau.