35a11c No.15299276
Considering the last few smash-related threads are nothing but circlejerking over a single fucking character, let's just have a thread where you fucks just list the characters you like most or which ones you'd like to see in Smash while doing our best to forget Nintendo's greedy and faggoty non-Smash related decisions as of late. Also if me and some friends buy our copies of Smash on ebay or something, would that mean less shekels for Jewtendo?
241479 No.15299286
>>15299276
>Smash Dream Roster
A roster with no clones, where every character has a mostly unique moveset.
87cbe9 No.15299295
>>15299276
My dream roster would be no more Fire Emblem fags.
>having friends
Get a load of this faggot! How do I get friends to play smash with? I don't want to pay for online when it happens.
241479 No.15299303
>>15299295
>How do I get friends to play smash with? I don't want to pay for online when it happens.
search the internet
and shower
362c15 No.15299312
>>15299276
All I wanted was Ridley and K. Rool. Main reason why I didn't buy the last Smash or a Wii U (or anything Nintendo related that wasn't Kirby). I might be forced to get a Switch because of this and two other games to make it not seem like a waste of money. I'm thinking maybe Odyssey and Breath of the Wild unless someone can recommend something better. Really anything would do.
362c15 No.15299320
>>15299295
Dox yourself on facebook or some other trashy socmedia and meet people there.
241479 No.15299346
>>15299312
>I might be forced to get a Switch
buy now, make sure it has the old hardware for piracy.
f02e32 No.15299348
>>15299276
First, no, that would just mean the same amount of shekles for Nintendo. Second
>Phoenix Wright and Miles Edgeworth echo.
>Banjo & Kazooie
<Wonder-Red
>Geno
>Honestly, I wouldn't mind Waluigi
>Robotnik
>Skull Kid
>Bandana Dee maybe as an echo fighter of Meta Knight
>Shantae
Reminder that Bamco has the right to Dragon Ball games, so Goku isn't actually impossible, god help us if he gets in
There is only one correct way for Phoenix Wright to be included in this game too.
5d6dd6 No.15299371
Sorry OP, I've already filled in the previous template.
500625 No.15299374
>>15299276
>>15299312
If you have a switch with all the shitty anti-piracy features, you're stuck paying Nintendo no matter what. Sucks to be you if that's the case.
>>15299348
I honestly would love to see Phoenix in Ultimate even if his moveset is similar to the one from Marvel vs Capcom since that would mean he wouldn't be a clone.
>Reminder that Bamco has the right to Dragon Ball games, so Goku isn't actually impossible, god help us if he gets in
Oh Christ no…
500625 No.15299388
>>15299371
Pretty great tastes there. But is the one getting farted on supposed to be the Dragonborn? I seriously hope Todd hasn't been sending Sakurai any emails begging for that shit to be added after the whole Zelda armor feature for Skyrim on Switch.
2bdc3b No.15299389
Alex Kidd
Axel
Epsilon-2
Alys Brangwin
Red (e- Blue)
Beat
Ryo Hazuki
Azel
Space Harrier
Joe Musashi
Nights
Sonic the Hedgehog (e- Shadow the Hedgehog)
& Knuckles
Rose
Rouge the Bat
Dr. Eggman (e- Dr. Robotnik)
Serena
Shou Amabane
SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDOESN'T
5d6dd6 No.15299390
>>15299388
>is the one getting farted on supposed to be the Dragonborn?
Yes.
The source still haunts my darkest nightmares.
2bdc3b No.15299396
>>15299393
Yes, I got the names all fuddled up
500625 No.15299426
>>15299388
I just realized I need a good villain rep for Golden Sun on my list. Which character would be a good villain rep for Golden Sun? Saturos, Menardi or Alex?
a350d0 No.15299434
>>15299348
Dunno about characters, but I would kill for phoenix wright music for the megaman stage.
e984a5 No.15299453
I know it won't happen but I really like Hollow Knight and I think the Knight would fit in pretty nicely.
>>15299426
I think hoping for Isaac is really enough, not like he will be included anyway
fdf2a0 No.15299484
GET READY EVERYONE FOR ANOTHER SMASH GENERAL!!!
Well since we are talking about a dream roster, here is my mess of participants that I would like to see and not see.
However, in an ideal world, we would have way more 1st party representations for Smash rather than worrying about whether or not Goku has a chance at being in.
>>15299371
>Medusa
Already trash, but wanting Hawlucha and your least wanted part however, redeems your list.
>>15299388
You know that if Todd had the ability too, he would pay millions just to have himself in Smash.
241479 No.15299493
>>15299276
>let's just have a thread where you fucks just list the characters you'd like to see in Smash
Necrozma
Reimu Hakurei
Hikari
That schoolgirl detective that was considered for Melee whose name i forgot
Asuka from Senran Kagura
Mega Man X
Lip
Metal Sonic
Ribbon
i probably forgot some fags.
241479 No.15299502
>>15299484
>Hawlucha
Hawlucha would be fine, too
f93b42 No.15299504
I unironically think Waluigi would be a good addition to the game provided his moveset revolved around with fucking with your opponents expectations. Basically, make him a overall average character who is incredibly hard to read who exists purely to fuck with people.
8531ac No.15299534
>>15299286
What's wrong with clones though. They're far easier for the devs to create, their inclusion does not mean the exclusion of other characters, and the nuances make them a nice alternative for people who like the original characters. The only characters I can think of that are completely meaningless are dark pit and Roy before they changed him for smash 4. I think Lucina has the bare minimum amount of change to be considered worthwhile mechanically, but echo characters not being defined as full characters to appease the retards makes me think theyll do more shit like Richter who's pretty much just a different skin with different dialogue and animations. That's better than nothing dont get me wrong, but I wouldn't mind them making minor tweaks to some of the echoes also if you believe that ganon and falco were/are clones, you're a fucking idiot.
>>15299295
Again, inclusion of one character does not mean the exclusion of another. The only one I'm mildly pissed about is Corrin, because it was such an obvious attempt to market the new game. Chrom is fine tho, especially since they seem to have mixed up his moveset a good deal.
Anyways, here are the ones I'm looking for in no particular order:
>2B
>Shantae
>Geno
>Skull Kid
>any rep from a MegaTen game, even if it's a persona rep (preferably demi-fiend)
>Dante
>Goku (almost entirely because of how fucking dumb it is)
500625 No.15299564
>>15299453
>I think hoping for Isaac is really enough, not like he will be included anyway
Never say enough. Besides, I like to have characters vs rivals/archenemies matchs and I would probably play as Alex or Menardi more than Isaac himself. If he gets in without a villain I might never even use him.
>>15299484
I can understand hating Medusa since Uprising pretty much shat on her character as best they could while making sure Hades was more likeable (which he was), but I would at least like to see Medusa in Ultimate as an alternate costume for Palutena (as long as she's not voiced by the same actress from Uprising). Anyway I would gladly pick Hades or Viridi over Medusa at this point, but I'm satisfied with Dark Pit being the villain rep for now, even if he is a shitty echo.
>You know that if Todd had the ability too, he would pay millions just to have himself in Smash.
Most rich fucks in the gaming industry would really, but knowing Todd he would love to add Skyrim in some way to Smash since he's thrown it in as many places as possible already.
500625 No.15299588
>>15299493
>That schoolgirl detective that was considered for Melee whose name i forgot
Her moveset might be dull but I'd love to see rejected Melee be brought in and for some long forgotten characters and titles to get some love again.
>Ribbon
The fairy from Kirby? Not bad if she's paired with Ado like in Allies. Its odd though that Sakurai is the head of Smash yet he never adds many Kirby characters yet instead adds a shit ton of FE and Mario characters instead. I would have expected him to have at least added Gooey or Prince Fluff in the last Smash.
>>15299534
Chrom is just a fucking Roy echo. Corrin is an obvious marketing gimmick though.
02783b No.15299607
>>15299295
Just go on Anther's Ladder and play some delicious netplay battles of 64, Melee, Brawl, Sm4sh and even Project M with people who actually know how to play!
65d8b5 No.15299611
>>15299534
>Dante
>MegaTen
>Goku
241479 No.15299612
>What's wrong with clones though.
my autism, basically. not only would a unique moveset have been preferable, but having an echo fighter means that the echo stock is effectively twice as likely be picked by random selection.
Although i wish Dark Samus would atleast have had her AT moves.
>>15299534
>also if you believe that ganon and falco were clones, you're a fucking idiot.
how were they not clones in melee?
5c7513 No.15299613
>Kunio-kun considering last thread, I actually wouldn't mind him as an assist now either, long as he gets the Little Mac treatment next game and gets to put Waluigi in a trash can
>Quote and Curly (or Shantae, I'm actually not big on indies at all but these just seem like the most likely reps)
>Jack Frost (with a Demi-Frost costume and maybe Joker Frost to appease the Personafags)
>Dr. Ivo Rrrrrrobotnik
>Classic Sonic as an echo, I dunno how the fuck he'd work but I have a feeling. Shorter and lighter Sonic with no homing attack maybe?
>Labo. I actually don't want him in at all but I also have a feeling that $60 cardboard is gonna be a rep somehow
ffea07 No.15299615
>>15299286
So, Smash 64 without Luigi or Jigglypuff?
564727 No.15299619
I think I have the most legit never-ever characters of anyone. I hope Lip is in at least, but I'm not expecting her.
d9a1e5 No.15299628
>>15299611
>dat pic
Beautiful and saved.
5c7513 No.15299629
>>15299619
Oh god, the Earthworm Jim Niggerfaggotcuckshitskin has appeared yet again! Someone call the cops, he's gone mad!
d9a1e5 No.15299633
Also, only character I want right now is Dixie Kong and Ray MK III. K. Rool was all I really needed.
d9a1e5 No.15299636
>>15299629
So /v/ hates Earthworm Jim now?
500625 No.15299639
>>15299636
>implying /v/ is a single person
435ca4 No.15299645
Anyone got these not shit templates y'all are posting?
The one in OP is garbage.
241479 No.15299648
>>15299588
>The fairy from Kirby? Not bad if she's paired with Ado like in Allies.
You could also just make a crystal based moveset for her so that she can work solo, but i'm not against adeleine in smash.
>>15299615
>So, Smash 64 without Luigi
kinda. for recent games, he's been way decloned though.
>Jigglypuff?
I admittedly haven't played or watched the first smash in over 10 years but how was Jigglypuff a clone (presumably of Kirby?) besides having 5 air jumps?
>>15299619
is that Wario supposed to mean "Wario with Wario Land based moves"?
564727 No.15299651
>>15299636
It's just the same soyboy faggot who keeps getting triggered because he hates Doug Tennapel's views on gay marriage. Ignore him.
500625 No.15299653
>>15299645
You mean this one? Templates are all shit anyway.
564727 No.15299655
>>15299648
>is that Wario supposed to mean "Wario with Wario Land based moves"?
You fucking know it.
5c7513 No.15299657
>>15299636
>>15299651
Guess you didn't see the flag, friends. Earthworm Jim's a great character, even if I don't think he has much of a chance for Smash.
500625 No.15299662
>>15299651
Could Jim get into Smash Ultimate though? Does he have a big enough fanbase in Japan? I mean that'd be great honestly, but NoA would never allow it considering how pathetic the management over there has been. Fucking Burgers. Even NoE wouldn't object.
500625 No.15299665
>>15299655
I was honestly disappointed that Wario's moveset barely had anything from Wario Land.
>>15299648
>You could also just make a crystal based moveset for her so that she can work solo, but i'm not against adeleine in smash.
Would be nice if Sakurai became a little biased in favor of his own series and just added both along with anyone else he wants from Kirby.
241479 No.15299686
>>15299651
>Doug Tennapel's views on gay marriage.
pro or anti gay marriage?
>>15299665
>Would be nice if Sakurai became a little biased in favor of his own series and just added both along with anyone else he wants from Kirby.
nah, it was kinda butt when he did it with his new series (especially on Smash 3DS), doesn't need to happen with my favorite childhood series too.
9d1660 No.15299687
Why did no one ask for Big Boss as an echo yet?
Isnt he also technically a villan character?
I know you guys want more of those.
8531ac No.15299689
>>15299588
I know, which is why its impressive that his moveset is quite different from Roy, borrowing moves from Ike and Marth as well.
>>15299612
It depends how you define a clone. If you only look at how their moves look, then sure, they're clones. But if you judge them by function, they're vastly different. Ganon and Falcon are obvious, since Falcon is the fastest character in melee, while ganon is one of the slowest. Falco and Fox have different movement speeds and jump heights, different uses for lasers (falco can apply pressure and stuff approaches, fox can apply rapid pressure and force approaches), different combo games with Falco being based more around the pillar setup of shine -> bair and so on so forth. Sure their animations are pretty much the same, but they play really differently, which more than makes up for it. I get that people want ganon to have more unique moves, and I'm not mad about the sword smashes hes getting, but to me a reference has always been far less important to me than the feel of a character. I'm glad echo characters are a thing now because it allows us to have interesting variations like Chrom or Dark Samus without autists getting too upset
564727 No.15299690
>>15299662
If we're being realistic, Jim has next to no chance at all, which is why I said he's my most-wanted "never ever" character. Not only did he fade off into obscurity after the 90s ended but he's also currently wrapped up in a legal purgatory, since Interplay is trying to sell off all of its IP as a single unit and thus far no one has publically come forward saying they'll buy their shit. Doug Tennapel in particular is hurt by this because he says he wished he could've kept the franchise going, if he only had the license he would've made ten games by now and kept the franchise fresh in people's minds.
As far as I know, Jim is almost entirely unknown in Japan, so that'd be another factor working against him even if he was relevant again.
500625 No.15299692
>>15299613
>next game
Will there be a next game though? I can see Nintendo using Smash Ultimate for a long time and adding new characters or changes via DLC or updates. Would save them time me thinks.
>Quote and Curly (or Shantae, I'm actually not big on indies at all but these just seem like the most likely reps)
At best they'll probably be Assist Trophies but I would be happy to see Shantae since unlike Shovel Meme, her first game was on the Gameboy Color (what with the lack of handheld competitors at the time, but that should still count for something).
>Classic Sonic as an echo
Maybe he could be an alternate costume like Alph.
>Labo
Oh God no.
0e33c5 No.15299693
I don't care what anyone says, The Sims deserves representation. It's one of the most popular video game franchises in history, with games on several Nintendo systems. Not to mention the potential for a fun and unique moveset.
500625 No.15299700
>>15299690
Has Doug tried to buy the IP? Does he lack the funds? Jim could see newfound success if he goes the indie route like Shantae.
b1ae81 No.15299701
At this point i can only ask for protoman, all ive wanted has been given and with even more than i had hoped for.
f93b42 No.15299708
>>15299701
Protoman (and Bass) would be logical choices as echo fighters for Megaman.
d9a1e5 No.15299711
>>15299693
>wanting to play as a normalfag
9d1660 No.15299716
>>15299693
That is by far the WORST suggestion for a smash bros character ive ever seen, thats even worse than adding in Sans for fucks sake.
Go away and never come back anon.
500625 No.15299728
>>15299708
>>15299701
Protoman could also be an alternate costume for Mega Man though with a custom name. The problem is he's already part of Mega's final smash. Unless of course Protoman doesn't show up in the smash when he's in play, which is what I hope is the case with Assist Trophies. Think of it. Assist Trophies can get damage and add to your score like regular playable characters and some of the new ones behave more like playable characters than past assists. There could be a possibility of some Assist Trophy characters also being playable and in turn playable characters can have assist trophies to and show up in battle when they're not in play. Same for assist trophies. If you're playing as a character who also has an assist trophy, that assist trophy won't show up while they're in play.
564727 No.15299733
>>15299700
>Has Doug tried to buy the IP? Does he lack the funds? Jim could see newfound success if he goes the indie route like Shantae.
That's the problem. Interplay is selling ALL of its IP. Like, all of it, as a single unit. The way they're selling it you can't just buy EWJ by itself. You have to agree to buy every single IP they own, all at once.
This is problematic for most prospective buyers because for every GOOD property they own (like Earthworm Jim and MDK), they also have to agree to by a dozen or so shitty iphone casino games and Clayfighter. So Doug can't simply buy the IP back from them.
The only hope we have is that some rich goodfag developer buys the IP and pledges to do it right by bringing the original team back to make new games. But that's even more of a longshot.
>>15299686
>pro or anti gay marriage?
If he was pro there wouldn't be a controversy. He is extremely against gay marriage because he is a hardline right wing Christian. Leftist cucks like to take this to mean he thinks gays should be lynched, but that's not what he means. He just thinks they shouldn't be able to get married in the eyes of God.
241479 No.15299745
>>15299689
>If you only look at how their moves look, then sure, they're clones.
yes, when i think "clones", i think "reuses (almost) all animations with tweaks to mechanical variables", even if the tweaks result in different "functions".
i never got good enough for function considerations to matter much, because i play by myself.
Clones aren't an outright dealbreaker for me, i'd just rather have something else.
>>15299692
>Will there be a next game though?
If there is, i hope they'll take their time (they won't) for decloning and balancing.
>>15299733
>He is extremely against gay marriage
Good
e4ee1f No.15299747
>>15299276
>every smash bros thread is the same thing and i think its silly, so lets make another thread thats whole purpose is to do the same silly thing
what the heck XD
d9a1e5 No.15299750
>>15299690
>>15299733
>That's the problem. Interplay is selling ALL of its IP. Like, all of it, as a single unit. The way they're selling it you can't just buy EWJ by itself. You have to agree to buy every single IP they own, all at once.
Well that fucking sucks. Fuck Interplay.
On another note could someone explain to me the chair conspiracy theory shit? Why do some think that shit means Skull Kid is in Smash?
241479 No.15299757
>>15299747
>every smash bros thread is the same thing and i think its silly, so lets make another thread thats whole purpose is to do the same silly thing
Suika, go home, you won't be smash.
>>15299750
>Why do some think that shit means Skull Kid is in Smash?
Chair colors apparently correspond to the clors of his fairies. Seems kinda reaching to me though.
500625 No.15299758
>>15299733
And here I thought EWJ might make a comeback some day. What a shame. Unless Doug or someone starts a fundraiser to buy them and give them to Doug or another good developer.
>>15299747
Stop drinking. Its not good for you.
e4ee1f No.15299773
>>15299757
>Suika, go home, you won't be smash.
that would be the dogs bollocks
500625 No.15299774
>>15299757
>Necrozma
If more freaking pokemon get in Smash then they should at least add a better rep for Gen II then Pichu and individual reps for gen III and gen V.
8531ac No.15299797
>>15299745
Eh, fair enough. I'm just saying that, other than having the same or similar animations, they're as different as any two random characters. To me a true clone character is somebody like dark pit, whose function is so similar to pit that they're both grouped together as one character for tier lists. Lucina is another I'd accept as a clone, even though her framedata makes me different enough to be placed separately on tier lists, and is noticably different to anybody who plays marth. Regardless, I'll agree that it's usually better to see something completely fresh than it is to see an iteration. But I believe Sakurai once said that it takes them as much time to make 4 or 5 clones as it does to make a single unique character. So I think it usually works out in terms of delivered content
8531ac No.15299799
>>15299774
They're just gonna add decidueye and stop it there. If they added a gen 3 and 5 rep then people would start getting autistic about it like they do with FE
241479 No.15299822
>>15299774
>If more freaking pokemon get in Smash then they should at least add a better rep for Gen II then Pichu and individual reps for gen III and gen V.
So should be the picks?
>>15299797
>But I believe Sakurai once said that it takes them as much time to make 4 or 5 clones as it does to make a single unique character.
Oh i know that clones don't take away a wholly new fighter's spot.
>>15299799
>like they do with FE
at least the pokemon arent mostly clones (besides Mewtwo :^)). also despite me wanting playable Necrozma i'm suspecting the gen VII rep to be either Poipole or Zeraora.
af630d No.15299851
>>15299773
I want to Smash Suika.
241479 No.15299854
on an unrelated note, i hope they fix the pokeball and assist trophy AIs so they don't actually target your team mates.
And also make your AI partners in classic mode not jobbers on the higher difficulties. that shit is just AIDS.
>>15299851
you'll be the one getting smashed, that's one of the 3 great evil youkai you're talking about.
aac6c6 No.15299856
>>15299822
>besides mewtwo
What the fuck are you talking about, you saucy bitch
241479 No.15299862
>>15299856
Mewtwo is a clone of Mew. I was making a joke.
500625 No.15299864
>>15299822
>So should be the picks?
Starters or pseudo-Legendaries. Gen II's rep should be Feraligatr or Tyranitar, Gen III's should be Blaziken or Swampert (but it will likely be Blaziken) with a final smash based around their mega evos and for Gen V maybe Super Smugleaf (for a unique snake-based moveset) or Haxorous.
>>15299799
True enough. They'd never be satisfied with who gets added and shit will end up even more hamfisted than FE character additions.
af630d No.15299874
>>15299854
Hey, as long as we're both satisfied and I'm still healthy enough to cuddle afterwards and take responsibility.
6efd0b No.15299933
>>15299923
you are my negro
500625 No.15299977
>>15299923
What would her final smash be though? Flash Canon or some shit?
292951 No.15300003
It'll never happen but a man can dream, hell I'll even take him as an assist trophy
50779c No.15300013
>>15299774
How about adding a Pokemon rep that isnt another Pokemon?
Have a Rocket Grunt run around whipping shit and summoning shitmons like Ekans/Koffing/Zubat/ Rattata for his special moves.
14a3b9 No.15300015
most wanted newcomers:
geno
banjo-kazooie
bandana waddle dee
mach rider
shadow (E)
JAMES BOND
least wanted newcomers:
minecraft
undertale
stupid shit
Fuck templates.
14a3b9 No.15300019
>>15300015
Forgot to add agumon.
241479 No.15300024
>>15299977
Mega Mawile is the final smash
b3a245 No.15300034
>>15300015
>JAMES BOND
Not James Pond
500625 No.15300038
>>15300013
>How about adding a Pokemon rep that isnt another Pokemon?
I know this is just a shitty shitpost, but I'll humor it anyway. A more likely alternative is to have a Rocket Grunt function in the same way as the Pokemon Trainer but have his team be made up of Meowth, Arbok and Weezing, but that's even less likely to happen due to time constraints and lack of demand. If another Pokemon Trainer-esque character ever comes up, it'll probably be through DLC in the future and be based on the playable characters from Gen II (Gold/Kris) or Gen III (Brendan/May) with their respective starters.
e4ee1f No.15300040
>>15299977
that or play rough complete with tom and jerry sound effects.
c3b9bc No.15300064
>>15300015
<JAMES BOND
>owners of the JB IP agree to let Nintendo use him but on one condition
>mfw it has to be either the new black and/or gay Bond
fdf2a0 No.15300070
>>15299534
>2B
I never understood why people for some reason want 2B in smash. To me, she wouldn't fit well in the roster, she would be another sword-fighter (even with all of her weapons from the game), she is too new, and her game isn't even on the Switch yet. I would prefer if she was in SCVI but even then.
>>15299564
To be honest, I don't even mind having Medusa in Smash, even as an echo fighter, but to me, there are better characters that could be added in for Kid Icarus reps than Medusa. Plus, she is also a thot.
Also, say what you will for Todd, but if Skyrim can't be added in, then the next best step would be to add himself in. Unlike any other rich man, Todd is on the pursuit to be immortalized, and Smash is one way he could accomplish this… Until Skyrim 2.
>>15299977
Her final smash would be transforming into her mega form and voring the opponents. :^)
>>15300003
One, who is the character in green and why? Secondly
>Solaire
No, please.
ffea07 No.15300077
>>15300070
>One, who is the character in green and why?
Underage please leave.
500625 No.15300088
>>15300070
>Sol
>No, please.
>2B
>in the trash
You sir are a complete and total cool dude who I would be happy to be friends with.
57e1d2 No.15300130
>>15299295
Sorry anon, but you're getting Jake from FE with a Groose echo and you're liking it.
57e1d2 No.15300142
>>15299651
>>15299619
So the barnyard blaster thing would be his final smash, right?
4f06e4 No.15300143
99a149 No.15300145
>>15300143
what's wrong? Don't like my opinions?
bddd5f No.15300168
>main
Villager.
>secondary
Random button.
>least wanted newcomers
Stuff that isn't good.
>most wanted newcomers
I already got my two, so chibi robo and viridi.
>most wanted assist
Who cares?
>most wanted stage
City trial from kirby air ride. Have the various hazards both the good and bad ones.
500625 No.15300169
>>15300130
>older FE character who is not a swordfag
At least its a somewhat improvement.
>>15300133
Pretty great least wanted list is all I'll say.
aac6c6 No.15300170
>>15299862
Forgive me for being retarded. I thought you were slandering him by calling him a clone of lucario.
>>15300070
I want her because I like her as a character. That's the only reason. The "too many sword fighters" shit is a meme, as they really dont take up that much of the roster, and they all mostly play pretty differently anyways. Plus her moveset could go way beyond just using swords, since she has fist weapons and the drone to work with as well. They could make a cool character out if her I think. Only thing is I don't think she has a super high chance of making it. Bayo is the closest comparison right now, and she only got in because Nintendo has a chokehold on her series. Maybe as DLC if automata gets a switch port
500625 No.15300171
>>15300168
>viridi.
A shorter Palutena echo in the same fashion as Young/Toon Link?
b70637 No.15300245
Ultimate has added pretty much everyone that I was asking for during Smash 4 that I thought had a remote chance of getting in. I have a handful of complaints (I'd rather have Dracula than any Belmont), but I'm not wanting for more.
That said, the following is unlikely shit that could be done to impress me:
>Pious Augustus (Eternal Darkness Sanity's Requiem)
>Ray 01 (Custom Robo)
>Saki (Sin and Punishment)
>Someone from Advance Wars (Andy is fine)
>Mach Rider
>Anyone else from F-Zero
>Jack (Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons)
>Bill Rizer (Contra)
>Billy and Jimmy Lee (Double Dragon)
Don't really care past that point, aside from the obvious non-retarded shit (no Geno, no Goku, no reddit favorites).
e4ee1f No.15300248
>>15300070
2b fair smash could use more ass after what they did to snake and samus.
564727 No.15300262
>>15300142
Yes! Most people don't immediately assume the Barn Blaster, everyone thinks it'll be a cow drop or something like that.
Barnyard animals only come out as his smash attacks and his down special is a cow drop, which drops a cow at his location. He can then do things with the cow like caber toss it (will instantly break people's shields), or smack it on the bum to send it running in a direction. Sometimes the cow will be a flaming cow (reference to Udderly Abducted in EWJ2), where the cow will explode after a certain amount of time. So if you get a flaming cow, you can let it cook a little bit, then attack it to send it running into a crowd of enemies where it will explode. The explosion is very deadly.
Here's a pic I drew of his forward smash. It's a happy oinker from the first stage of EWJ2. When charging he spins it on his hand like a nunchuck.
83989e No.15300268
>>15300248
I'm fine with the Samus change. It feeds my /fit/ girl fetish.
57e1d2 No.15300269
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>>15300245
I want Sin and Punishment representation too, anon. But don't you think the more ideal representative to sum up the series' bullet hell nature is Earth Mimicry? It would even fit the theme of sizing things down that's been going on so far.
2790ae No.15300308
>>15300262
>>15300142
I assume Peter would come out of nowhere and mauls Jim in a giant whirlwind of pain that Jim can sort of aim around the battlefield, and everyone caught in it takes damage and launches at the end except Jim, who just sits there after Peter calms down.
I'd imagine Jim's grab could be Snott, and he could use that to grab onto ledges like Link, Samus, and Simon.
That's a cool drawing, I really like that idea.
57e1d2 No.15300318
>>15300308
What about if Pete is an assist trophy that, if hurt by someone other than the one who summoned him, attacks the summoner?
57e1d2 No.15300323
>>15300308
Also, Jim could use both his head and Snott for grabs.
2790ae No.15300330
>>15300323
Why can't the player hold the jump button after the second jump and use his helicopter head spin to float? I mean, I have absolutely no idea what Jim's recovery would be like, if it didn't take you very high, this could supplement it.
564727 No.15300336
>>15300308
Pete is an assist trophy, yeah.
I thought of using Snott as a tether grab but Jim already uses his own head for that, so instead I made Snott into a bunch of different tilts and attacks. Jim's downtilt would be this, while crouched, Snott shoots out of his backpack and wallops the opponent by turning into a boxing glove. He also has an up-air with Snott, where holding up+A turns him into a parachute and lets Jim slow his descent.
57e1d2 No.15300341
>>15300330
His recovery might be his pocket rocket.
500625 No.15300343
>>15300245
>I'd rather have Dracula than any Belmont
This. I was hoping for some Simon vs Dracula fights… To not have Dracula himself playable and instead the other Belmont was a harsh blow.
57e1d2 No.15300345
>>15300343
>To not have Dracula himself playable and instead the other Belmont was a harsh blow.
Sorry anon, he was already playable in Konami Krazy Racers.
c3b9bc No.15300348
>>15300268
There's never an excuse for breast reduction in vg.
500625 No.15300360
>>15300345
Fuck that. I wanted to beat the crap out of Nintendo mascots and suck their blood while Simon watches.
634b27 No.15300403
All the arms girls, if only one then Min Min
Midna
Dillon
Isaac
Ray
Medusa. Preferably not as a clone because unless they fixed it in Ultimate, I hated Palutena's move set in 4.
Fire Emblem is a mess but I still want some proper representation for it. Replace Corrin with adult Tiki and Robin with Celica and then add some Axe and lance users from pre Awakening games. Maybe Lethe too because I'm surprised the game doesn't have a cat girl yet.
d08d43 No.15300404
>people actually thinking Waluigi isnt gonna be added
Reggie outright said it was a "possibility." You people are fucking retarded if you think Nintendo isnt just letting hype build itself by putting the fans in the position where the fans are going apeshit over this dumb character while Nintendo looks like they are simply giving the fans what they want by adding a character they planned to put in from the start.
That being said
>Elite Beat Agents
>Blaziken
>Karate Man from Rhythm Heaven
>Picross Its fucking stupid enough of an idea to actually happen
>Commander Video
>Rhino (Warframe)
>Revolver Ocelot
>Volgin
>Koopa Bros
>Rayman
>Ed (Tonic Trouble)
57e1d2 No.15300410
>>15300403
Why are Lola and Twintelle's hips so reduced in that pic?
564727 No.15300438
>mfw people actually think Waluigi is going to be playable
The war is over Waluigifags. You lost and you're just shooting your empty clips at nothing.
c3b9bc No.15300464
>>15300438
>Rathalos is both an assist trophy and a stage boss
>a first for the series
>mfw certain assist trophies will be the first characters who will be both trophies and playable
>mfw even old playables will have assist trophies of their own
>mfw assist trophy Mario or Link will show up in fights even when not selected
Feels good.
500625 No.15300474
>>15300466
Ah yes. That old chestnut.
e4ee1f No.15300477
>>15300404
>Reggie outright said it was a "possibility." You people are fucking retarded if you think Nintendo isnt just letting hype build itself by putting the fans in the position where the fans are going apeshit over this dumb character while Nintendo looks like they are simply giving the fans what they want by adding a character they planned to put in from the start.
im not gonna discount it as a possiblity, they love to tease us. the internet would ignite if that happened. just look at how k.rools reveal went, itll take something crazy to top that.
500625 No.15300482
>>15300404
>Karate Man from Rhythm Heaven
Sadly we might get the Chorus Boys instead.
43aa0f No.15300488
King K.Rool was really the only newcomer I actually wanted, so anything else is just gravy.
564727 No.15300489
>>15300464
<Rathalos is both an assist trophy and a stage boss
<a first for the series
This is the hill you faggots are choosing to die on?
Making something an assist trophy and a stage boss at the same time isn't hard to do because they are functionally the same thing. The only difference is that sometimes the stage itself summons the assist trophy for you. That's a far cry from having a playable character who's also an AT.
c3b9bc No.15300507
>>15300489
>they are functionally the same thing
Bull-fucking-shit m8. Assist Trophies this time around are not that different from playable characters and can even be attacked and defeated while adding to your score. Setting up limitations will never get you far. That's what faggots did by pretending Ridley and K. Rool could never be possible and looked how that turned out. Except more surprises along the way, fishnigger.
500625 No.15300510
I'd honestly rather have Cuphead as an assist trophy over Shovel Knight.
000000 No.15300511
Heihachi for smash. All others for trash.
500625 No.15300514
>>15300511
He got a mii costume last time. He might actually have a chance of making it in as an assist trophy or playable in future DLC.
a756c7 No.15300521
>>15299426
>Alex
>Implying you'd get to fight against/as him in Smash.
>When you're never allowed to fight him in the actual series itself.
6efd0b No.15300531
>>15300403
>arms
who the fuck cares?
83989e No.15300537
>>15300488 (heil'd)
I didn't know Brendan Fraser was playable.
e4ee1f No.15300539
>>15300531
well we could get the loli in the mech if they choose to go that route, and it could be a while before we ever get to see tron bonne in this series.
564727 No.15300546
>>15300507
>Bull-fucking-shit m8. Assist Trophies this time around are not that different from playable characters and can even be attacked and defeated while adding to your score.
So what? Stage bosses existed in the last game that functioned the exact same way. All they did was add that capability to certain ATs. I know you guys are desperate but this is really just sad. It's a trivial issue to add these functions.
9a7cd3 No.15300551
Rate my shit anons
>>15300133
>Stage from ROB that is Irate Gamer's room. He will walk in and say "someone call 911 because i've been ROB'd!"
Why did that make me laugh so much?
564727 No.15300555
>>15300551
>Octolings
>Geno
>Banjo
Short and simple. Not a bad list anon. I'd say at least two of those characters are very plausible.
30be08 No.15300556
HARD MODE: Only characters that have been in a Nintendo-published game thus far.
564727 No.15300565
>>15300556
In that case, I just want Lippy and maybe a Stunt Race FX car.
e4ee1f No.15300566
>>15300551
yes octolings would be a great addition alongside the inklings. did you know octopuses have 3 hearts to love you with and are masterful cosplayers?
just thought id throw that out there as a human with human interests.
43aa0f No.15300574
>>15300551
>King K
>Geno
>B-K
<Ashley
7/10 Good picks, Anon.
b70637 No.15300579
>>15300551
Cancer personified. 2/10.
9a7cd3 No.15300581
>>15300574
I dont actually know why she's on the list. I never actually thought she would make it in, nor do I really care for her. I probably just got caught up in the shock of it being possible. Maybe next time Ashleyfags
>>15300566
Hey Anon do you have something to tell me
b4fb65 No.15300601
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>Gangplank Galleon remix was infected by rap
But why
e4ee1f No.15300602
>>15300581
i do have something to tell you, theres nothing wrong with ashley and dont let anyone tell you otherwise. by the way, check out this cute cosplaying octoling that i found on the information grid for humans. maybe somebody should ask her out
9a7cd3 No.15300612
>>15300602
I'd fuck an octopus
c0dd1f No.15300624
>>15299693
There's already SimCity representation though, not the same, but related.
b70637 No.15300625
>>15300601
Because everyone subconsciously recognizes that DKC apes = blacks, therefore black influence in the music happens.
57e1d2 No.15300630
>>15300624
Dr. Wright didn't show up as an assist yet this time around, now did he? What if he's getting in and Isabelle is his echo?
50779c No.15300642
88fd36 No.15300653
Newcomers
Any Advance Wars Rep
Any Custom Robo Rep
Chibi-Robo
Cranky Kong
Skull Kid
Ravio
King Hippo
Captain Toad
Echo Fighters
Dry Bowser (Bowser)
Dixie Kong (Diddy Kong)
Galacta Knight (Meta Knight)
Louie / Charlie / Brittany / Alph (Olimar)
I think those would be cool and not all that outlandish. Advance Wars might be tough to translate into Smash but they made Villager work so who knows.
c0dd1f No.15300662
>>15300630
No, assist trophy once again.
57e1d2 No.15300664
>>15300653
I want Sandman or Super Macho Man in instead of King Hippo. Either that or the Bruiser Brothers as a heavyweight ice climber equivalent.
e4ee1f No.15300670
>>15300630
sorry to burst your housing bubble but yes he is an assist trophy
c0dd1f No.15300683
>>15300664
>We get Glass Joe instead
How many joke characters have been announced? or out of the ordinary, as has been Wii Fit Trainer?, And the ancient Nintendo's history dig up? Ice Climbers, Mr Game $ Watch, R.O.B, Pit, Duck Hunt? who will we see fill that quota in Ultimate?
57e1d2 No.15300688
>>15300683
We will see Cooking Mama fill that role.
8531ac No.15300694
>>15300348
What if you're making a child version of an adult character. for real tho, I'm not a fan of that shit either, and I'm on the fence about this one, but it does seem to be more of a sidegrade than a downgrade since they've added a lot of definition to her legs n shit. It's still a change, but it's not an egregious one.
564727 No.15300695
>>15300683
If we get a "joke" character I want it to be this guy.
79d3fe No.15300708
>>15299276
I literally just want Waluigi. Everyone else I've wanted since Brawl (Little Mac, Castlevania reps, K.Rool, Mega Man) is already in, and there's some characters I'd like to play as but I'm fine with them as Assists (like Zero or Gray Fox).
And I know he's not going to be playable (unless someone mods him in like MarioKing64DS did), and I've come to terms with that.
But he is the only absence that stings me.
e4ee1f No.15300712
>>15300683
this is the part where i post ridley and k.rool but theyre in so have this guy instead
79d3fe No.15300717
>>15300708
>not wanting Geno
08886b No.15300727
>>15299651
Or perhaps is the same anon who derails threads with his deviantart-tier fetishes
>>15300003
Snow Bros for smash
>>15300531
Same reason with Gyromite
eafb7a No.15300728
Scorpion
Zeigfried
EA skater
12ce77 No.15300732
tfw realize I haven't edited an image in 10 years and have basically forgotten how outside of basic copy-pasting
Why does transparency show as solid black in Photoshop?
c0dd1f No.15300733
>>15300688
Never Ever… I think
>>15300695
Vehicle characters doesn't sound far fetched given the Bowser Jr and koopalings vehicle, but what moves could them give it aside from running onto everyone? drop oil? I don't want to have to endure all the threads asking if we think the car feels embarassed whenever that happens… Then people will begin to clamor for a ray mqueen echo God…
I haven't played Super Race Fx if that's what it's called
>>15300712
I truly believe it's too late for him this time… maybe as a free update character down the line if Nintendo really wants the PR and meme status, the precedent is they added BotW Link on MK 8 Deluxe for free, otherwise they save him so his reveal trailer in smash space odyssey is more impact-full.
e05071 No.15300734
Rex & Pyra is the only real newcomer I REALLY want. Anyone else will just be icing on the cake
675da2 No.15300735
Pic related is the overall roster picture that the Ultimate devs periodically update whenever a new character is announced. They added 5 new characters to the picture last time at the end of the 8/8/2018 Direct video. As you can see, there's hardly any room or space left now for New fighters in between the currently announced fighters. Masahero Samurai said there's still a few more characters to reveal, but given the limited space of their current roster picture, expect the next Direct video to contain the LAST bunch of new characters. Probably just 1-3 more reveals TOPS imo.
12ce77 No.15300739
>>15300735
Compare it to the original art. They move the characters around to make space in each new version.
08886b No.15300740
>Dream roster
Gamebana is there.
But my main concern is the great feature they're hiding.
>>15300708
I was expecting him to avenge the absence of many spinoff characters, I guess Mario Party is getting the Wario Land treatment. If they consider another gag character that would probably be the gamblers from High Stakes.
50779c No.15300747
>>15300735
>As you can see, there's hardly any room or space left now for New fighters in between the currently announced fighters
There wasnt any space in the original version either before they added the castlevania reps and K.Rool.
They just move characters around to make more space.
e05071 No.15300748
>>15300739
Plus they could even make the picture longer if need be. It isn't a static size, it's meant to be an endless scroll on the website.
79d3fe No.15300754
>>15300717
I never even said that.
I'd play Geno and I want him in just so his fans can find some peace. He's had nothing to do since 1996 and he's been requested since Melee.
I just don't particularly care about him. Waluigi is my favorite video game character and I think a playable appearence in Smash could be the first step to him actually progressing out of the spin-off limbo.
>>15300740
>I guess Mario Party is getting the Wario Land treatment
Nah, Mario Party is still a money maker for Nintendo and they would never give up that cash cow. We are lucky to get more references to it in WarioWare Gold and Smash, because that's as far as Nintendo's going to feed the starving Wario Land fans.
Honestly, I want Waluigi Land. A quirky puzzle/platformer tailored to his weird character that gives him a setting and cast all his own and allows him to fill a niche other characters don't. But it's never happening and neither is a Wario Land revival.
7e1cdb No.15300755
>>15300601
>fun, fast paced, crazy remix
>here comes the raaaaaaaaaaaap
goddammit. hopefully it's only that one little segment
b4fb65 No.15300766
>>15300755
Hopefully there's an instrumental version ingame. If there is, I'm turning off the rap version immediately.
d08d43 No.15300772
>>15300601
I dont see the problem, why wouldnt rap belong in a theme for a game about monkeys?
8531ac No.15300779
>>15300735
The fact that they revealed 5 characters in the first direct since the reveal in which they said "do my expect too much more" makes me think the samurai was just tempering expectations so they could be exceeded. My guess is somewhere between 4-6 fully original characters and a good handful of new echoes. That would make for 73-75 characters in the base game not including echoes. It's a hefty ask sure, but they really seem to be going the extra mile this time
564727 No.15300786
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>>15300733
It's called Stunt Race FX, and to be honest I don't picture him with a very complicated moveset. He would mostly be a speedy super heavyweight brawler.
I picture him something like the Wheel Robot transformation from Kirby Planet Robobot with a few more moves on top of that. But the gist of it is like this:
>Give him an explosion move as his down+B similar to what happens in the game when you crash into a wall at high speed (his polygons fly everywhere and then reassemble, except for his eyes which stay in place as he rebuilds himself.) This explosion is incredibly deadly but it damages him in the process.
>Nitro boost as his side B, basically a super high speed dash attack with hyper armor that's active as long as you hold the button.
>Up+B spawns a ramp in the air that he then speeds up and over, propelling him to a greater height - the ramp itself will become a falling projectile and potentially spike any opponents in the air if it lands on top of them.
>Normal B is a peelout move - he starts spinning his tires on the ground and charging them until they start glowing red, then returns to normal. Upon pressing B again, he will instantly zoom off at top speed in the direction he's facing - a very explosive instantaneous boost of speed. In addition to taking off at top speed instantly he will leave behind a trail of flames on the ground behind him, which stays there for a moment and damages anyone who is standing on top of it.
Only thing I'm not sure of is his Final Smash, but I would assume it'd involve the rest of the cars smashing into opponents, followed by them getting sideswiped by TRAILER (the huge 18 wheeler that appears in the bonus stage).
50779c No.15300795
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>>15300786
>Wanting a car from a forgotten Nintendo racing game
>Not wanting Hornet to make its glorious return to fightan games after only appearing in Fighters Megamix
08886b No.15300797
>>15300754
>Mario Party is still a money maker for Nintendo
>Wario Land wasn't
Wario Land is a one hit wonder when it comes to sales, it's a miracle they added one WL microgame into WarioWare and Waluigi and Foreman Spike making a small cameo.
11b233 No.15300798
Will someone play smash with me when it comes out?
50779c No.15300807
>>15300797
There was a Waluigi cameo in Wario Ware? Where?
564727 No.15300810
>>15300795
>Not wanting Nintendo characters first in a Nintendo fighting game
Stunt Race FX is easier to make happen than a Sega racer.
9d1660 No.15300811
>>15300798
If my switch isnt banned from playing online and I can get SSBU second hand somewhere then yeah totally anon.
fdf2a0 No.15300814
>>15300795
That would be cool if Daytona at least gotten referenced, but we can't have nice things.
Each time I listen to this song, all I can hear now is "EPONA!"
>>15300798
Don't worry anon, we will all play Smash together when it comes.
b4fb65 No.15300818
>>15300798
Don't worry about it anon,there's already constant Smash threads here just for discussion. When the game comes out there will be plenty of anons to play with. Maybe we can get a tourney bracket going.
50779c No.15300819
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>>15300810
But Hornet already has a moveset pre-made for him, plus he has seniority in terms of fighting game experience.
Im just fucking with you mate
79d3fe No.15300821
>>15300797
Actually yeah, I looked it up and Wario Land does sell. I take back what I said.
https://warioforums.com/threads/wario-series-sales-data.643/
Which makes it even more baffling as to why Nintendo doesn't continue it. Wario Land makes money and is one of the most consistently critically praised gaming franchises, and it's obviously not just because people like Wario.
564727 No.15300823
>>15300819
He has a moveset made for him in a traditional fighter, sure, but they don't translate well to Smash. F-Type has more personality, and his moves would be made from the ground up for Smash.
I know you're just kidding around but I like Hornet too. Their games were only one year apart.
000000 No.15300929
>>15299276
Wait until Jewtendo can't profit from it anymore, to start discussing it. Jewtendo is at war with Gamers.
7b398f No.15300952
>>15299484
>Demifiend
>Doesn't want Joker.
wew lad.
1f132b No.15301054
>>15300133
>Dolphin Park Wave Race stage
Sounds interesting. Fighting on top of a large ramp while watching out for racers or dolphins (from foreground or background) jump over briefly into the fighting area and possibly damage fighters.
fdf2a0 No.15301068
>>15300952
I mainly do not want Joker just because of this one popular fool who unironically wants him in he is too new, unwarranted, and is not even on a Nintendo system yet, not until Persona Q2 which is coming soon. To be honest, Persona gets too much attention anyways, it would be cool if an SMT character was acknowledged in Smash since those games have been on more Nintendo systems than any Persona game. So either it is the Jack Bros. or Demi-fiend, whatever works.
>>15301012
>Least wanted
>Just Waluigi
Haha.
Zero is a cool choice, but it would be better if other Megaman characters were a playable fighter for once. Also, he is an assist, so it is over for him. :^(
I never understood why you guys want a 2hu character in the game, I mean, at best I could see Reimu as an assist trophy, but even then that's giving her a little too much credit.
Sora would be a mess and I agree with you on Dark Samus, they should have given her at least a more unique moveset (more moves from her own game) than just being a "dark clone" of Samus.
6a0ca2 No.15301077
>>15301012
Why are people saying they main Ridley and K.Rool when no one's played either of them yet?
12ce77 No.15301087
>>15301068
>Why 2hu
Well, indie representation is now a given, with Shovel Knight in there. And 2hu is the undisputed king of what it means to be indie. The creator quit his job and taught himself to program so he'd have games with the right setting for the kind of music he wanted to write. Pure artistic autism. That was in 1994. I think the 20th game (including spinoffs) came out recently. It's probably moved more units than some first party IPs, by a wide margin. And it's never sold out, or gone corporate, or taken an artistic dive. It practically invented the modern doujin market, which is a self-contained multimillion dollar industry, to the point that actual AAA studios make IPs entirely to surf on the back of what the Touhou fans generated. And now fangames are coming out on consoles and even Steam.
Image related: the face of one lunatic with a natural talent for music and the autistic drive to do whatever it takes to exercise it. If any indie property deserves a playable rep, it's Touhou.
>>15301072
The only thing bigger than Ridley now is the cast size. And with Squad mode coming up, we're gonna need a version of the roster sheet with actual Team and Bench fields, not just Main and Secondary.
>>15301077
I hesitated for that reason, but I love what I'm seeing from them so much that I'm probably going to end up playing them a lot even if they suck. I've wanted a dragon thing (that isn't Charizard) and something like Richter forever.
fdd114 No.15301088
>>15301077
>he didn't get invited to the demo
751b86 No.15301093
>>15301077
>he doesn't work for NoA, ruining scripts for shits and giggles
5c7513 No.15301117
>>15301077
>he doesn't directly work with Daddy Sakurai in order to get to know about every single character, including the ones not released yet.
I'll give you a hint on one: He has five letters, starts with a K, wears white, and is a total bad boy.
That's right, it's Kiryu!
8531ac No.15301135
>>15301068
But anon, the best megaten games since nocturne have been persona game :^)))))) I'm not even being ironic, DDS was meh, raidou and strange journey were decent, but most everything else was mediocre at best. Persona is the only series that's managed to carve out its own share of the market, and it deserves it P4 got way too much attention tho. I want demi-fiend, but Narukami or Joker is a much more realistic scenario. You cant claim to want demi-fiend and say Jokers unrealistic because he hasn't been on a Nintendo
Console yet, since demi-fiend was never on a nintendo console save for some DLC that pretty much only had his likeness, and no plot relevance. The only other options I can see for the franchise are the frost brothers, or whomever the protagonist of SMT V is gonna be. But hey, anything is good. Once their foot's in the door, the chances of other megaten characters getting in rises drastically.
8531ac No.15301137
>>15301117
Holy fuck how did I forget about Kiryu. That would be a fucking amazing pick
241479 No.15301139
>>15300755
>>here comes the raaaaaaaaaaaap
but we already have the DK rap
5c7513 No.15301151
>>15301137
Kiryu is owned by Sega, so it isn't too far off of a shot. Plus he does have some ports on Nintendo, and a role in Project X Zone 2.
but more importantly, we could get to see Kunio and Kiryu bashing each-other's heads in to see who gets to murder Little Mac on his trip to Japan first
8531ac No.15301156
>>15301151
There was also a yakuza 1 and 2 remaster on Wii u that only came out in Japan. Also also there was talk of him getting into Tekken, but since Harada is a right cunt it didmt happen. But maybe that talk whet the appetite of Nagoshi. Who knows, it could happen. Kunio is a mediocre pick at best why the fuck do you want him so bad
9ec560 No.15301160
Newcomers:
>Jack Frost (With Frost Ace, Demi-Frost and a PurseOwner MC costume as skins)
>Agumom
>Rallen/Spikan (either one of the two are fine, I just want to see Spectrobes again)
>Shantae
>Reimu (Maybe)
>Quote
>Gooey
>Marx (Maybe)
>Bandana Dee
>Eggman
>Porky
>Phoenix Wright (Maybe)
>Ken (Echo)
>Shadow
>Metal Sonic (Echo)
>King Hippo (Maybe)
>Doomguy
Assists:
>Galacta Knight
>Funky Kong
>Alex Kidd
>Strange Journey MC
>Morrigan/Dimitri
>The Hollow Knight
5c7513 No.15301180
>>15301156
because he's one of the no-brainer picks that could work well for an obscure retro rep. Who wouldn't want to bash people's faces in with trash cans, ride on dodge balls (and manipulate them for combo starters/extra damage), beat some asses with chain whips, or do that stupid crawl Kunio does in the Nintendo World Cup sequel? I can understand why most think different considering how obscure he is if you don't look at River City Ransom.
Really wish Kiryu got into Tekken though, he's the no-brainer pick for that game but then ya'll got fucking Neagen.
675da2 No.15301188
>Alucard, Ashley, Bomberman, Gray Fox, Krystal, Midna, Shovel Knight, Squid Sisters, Zero
So many great characters who finally made it into Ultimate… but got trapped in Assist Trophy limbo.
8531ac No.15301198
>>15301180
Such is life in the Harada zone. Anyways I guess I'm not opposed to Kunio in any way, he just seems kinda bland. Especially when all the retro characters so far have either made no sense as fighters like G&W and Duck Hunt, or had a cool gimmick like Ice Climbers. It's also not a first party game, and the only retro 3rd parties this far have been hugely popular ones like pac-man and megaman. I think if were gonna see anyone of Kunio's ilk, itll be goemon.
fdd114 No.15301202
>>15301180
>Neagen.
Isn't he from tv?
12ce77 No.15301210
>>15301188
>Zero will never look decent in a crossover game
He always looks… wrong, somehow. MvCI was by far the worst, but still, fuck.
I have a pipe dream of him being playable with different models for his different art styles. Particularly his Mythos design.
8531ac No.15301216
>>15301202
Yep. The walking dead. It's a bizzare fuckin choice
5c7513 No.15301220
>>15301180
Oh, and most important, who wouldn't want to know the joy of being able to beat a motherfucker with another motherfucker?
I'm sorry, I had to find something quick. Please forgive and/or bully me
>>15301198
I can fully understand the bland argument, since he's just a kid in a suit with bad hair, but River City Ransom definitely had some level of being iconic. But if you managed to get your hands on all of his games, he definitely doesn't play too blandly, especially when you factor in Sakurai's autism for adding in stuff on top of that. Goemon would definitely be a sweet addition too, though, since he looks a lot more unique.
>>15301202
Yep, but Harada doesn't give a shit, gotta appeal to AMC(TM)'s The Walking Dead(R)'s fans.
8531ac No.15301241
>>15301220
Eh I suppose. Hes still not one I'll be looking for, but I wish you the best of luck
fdf2a0 No.15301255
>>15301087
Well when you put it like that, it does sound pretty incredible at just how much one man managed to achieve, thanks to the power of autism. Although you could almost make the same argument for a couple of other indie games, like Cave Story or you know what, I would rather have 2hu in Smash over any other indie game, that would be cool I guess.
>>15301135
>Demi-Fiend was never on any Nintendo system except for a small DLC
Okay okay, you got me there, but I was hoping that Demi-Fiend's inclusion would be like the Cloud situation (of being in Smash, but hardly been on any Nintendo games prior), I just thought that if there was anyone who could represent SMT as a whole it could be either the Jack Bros. or Demi-Fiend. The quality of the SMT games shouldn't really matter, it should be more about the impact it had. However, even if Demi-Fiend's chances are lower than Joker's, we still need Jack Frost playable!
>>15301160
>Galacta Knight
>An assist
Anon, why do you not want good things?
>>15301210
I am guessing Zero looks off because of the weird detail of his face, his hair, the awkward animations, his moveset never fully being realized? idk
At the very least, we need Megaman-Zero playable, he honestly deserves to be in Smash.
751b86 No.15301261
>>15301188
>Shovel Knight
>great character
9d7974 No.15301269
My dream picks for new characters. Anyone but Geno or some other fucktarded Fire Emblem character.
e2d037 No.15301298
>>15299276
gerudo link, so I can fap to all the ryona videos made afterward
12ce77 No.15301332
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>>15301255
The face definitely. But the problems I usually see are in the colors. They always look super saturated and glossy, like plastic Fischer Price toys.
The fortuitous thing about adding Touhou to the game is that in spite of primarily being a scrolling shooter, Touhou has a bunch of fighting games too. So Reimu already has a pile of moves to pick from. One of the fighting games actually had a deck-building system where you could customize each character's moves from a list exclusive to them. Reimu's got enough moves that she could have been in Sm4sh and had a completely different attack for each custom move, like Palutena.
Also, holy fuck the music possibilities.
f9cda1 No.15301337
>>15299276
I wonder why there even are smash threads
2d5d05 No.15301359
>>15301332
Touhou shouldn't be whored out to big corporate projects like smash. It's something that thrives in the self-contained space where it is, just slightly outside the mainstream. Should stay there.
I'd rather play a silly fangame that parodied smash gameplay and just replaced the roster with touhou characters, anyway.
ed7492 No.15301380
>>15301359
most sprite smash-likes are kinda bad, mostly because the zoom-out aspect of smash works poorly in 2d, but I think 2hu could handle it.
e4ee1f No.15301383
>>15301359
>I'd rather play a silly fangame that parodied smash gameplay and just replaced the roster with touhou characters, anyway.
a group was doing something like that but ended up getting dunked on when they asked for patreon money. at least thats how i remember it
241479 No.15301424
>>15301383
>a group was doing something like that but ended up getting dunked on when they asked for patreon money. at least thats how i remember it
MotK was kvetching pretty hard about that patreon stuff.
But it might have not gotten anywhere anyway, when i looked at the dev's site back then, i think i saw some unfinished projects there.
2da4da No.15301465
>there's atleast four different smash threads in the catalog
241479 No.15301468
>>15301465
>>there's atleast four different smash threads in the catalog
using the catalog is for fags and the elderly :^)
e9fcaf No.15301687
>>15299276
Going to post this here because fuck that other faggot and his datamining thread. If you're looking for more characters, then look no further than the Mii Costumes from Smash 4. The character costumes that haven't been confirmed as either an assist trophy or new fighter are
>Isabelle and K.K. Slider
We'll get either one or the other. If we get both, then Isabelle is going to be a Villager echo fighter and K.K. would be an El Kabong-esque fighter that beats people with his acoustic guitar
>Monster Hunter
Basically confirmed at this point since the Rathalos and a Monster Hunter level have been officially announced
>Geno
A popular choice with fans. People say that Sakurai also wanted to add him for years but couldn't for licensing reasons, but I've never seen a source on that.
>Heihachi
As with Geno, people say that Sakurai wanted to add him for years but couldn't for licensing reasons. But again, I've never seen a source on that.
>Gil
Might show up as a classic games rep. Makes about as much sense as the Duck Hunt dog
>Lloyd
Stranger things have happened. Another popular pick from the fans.
>Akira and/or Jacky
A Virtua Fighter rep of some kind to mix things up. Sega and Nintendo are buddy-buddy now so this isn't outside the realm of possibility.
8531ac No.15301689
>>15301255
Yeah jack frost is the most ubiquitous Megaten rep, definitely wouldn't mind seeing him in. Plus his size and status as a literal demon allows for a number of creative movesets. Heres to hoping
634b27 No.15301741
>>15300531
You enough to respond.
abb4e9 No.15301922
>>15301689
wheres that gayboy that likes to say "main characters only!"?
f2f112 No.15301990
>>15299276
>Main
Marth
>Secondary
ZSS, Corrin, Roy, Ike
>Most wanted newcomers
Doomguy, Shadow, Eggman, Geese Howard, Master Chief
>Least Wanted Newcomers
Sans and Goku
241479 No.15302022
>>15301922
>wheres that gayboy that likes to say "main characters only!"?
but Jack Frost was the main Character of Jack Bros. and Synchronicity Prologue
9d1660 No.15302472
>>15301188
>Krystal is an assist trophy
Good. That is the what the furfag deserves at best.
Alucard is a real shame though.
faad97 No.15302490
>>15302472
>fur"fags"
>while the male furry cast is free to yiff around
amusing
b1ae81 No.15302491
>>15302472
Think about it man, would you rather get simon and richter as characters and alucard as trophy or viceversa?
I know wich decition would have been an insult.
873521 No.15302562
>>15302022
Jack Frost with an eye-searing Jack Bros. stage would be some good Virtual Boy representation. Maybe it would be kind of a joke to pack all the MegaTen music into a stage like that but it would be a nice little piece of history.
57e1d2 No.15302682
>>15302562
This would be hilarious, but I still want The Hero from SMT to be playable instead. Alternatively, STEPHEN being playable would be even better.
faad97 No.15302708
>>15302562
i feel like if there were a virtual boy stage it wouldnt be right if it didnt recolor everyone into black and red, but that would be a problem when multiple people are the same guy.
9d1660 No.15302722
>>15302491
Im fine with how it is, I know to not be too needy about stuff coming from smash, especially with how much we got already and 5 more chars coming along the way.
And there is a 90% chance that it will be someone from my fuckhuge list
241479 No.15302724
>>15302708
it's not like they recolored anyone for the g&w or gameboy stages
b1ae81 No.15302743
>>15302722
Dont forget the best part, 34 fucking songs, thats more than any other series in smash.
faad97 No.15302791
well it does flatten them. which would likely be what theyd do with a virtual boy stage, given how they did that with the kirbys dreamland stage too.
fdf2a0 No.15302819
>>15301687
Honestly, the fact that they even have costumes for these characters can thankfully be an indication of their inclusion in Ultimate now.
>Isabelle and K.K. Slider
Most likely Isabelle will be in, but K.K would make for a cool addition for an Animal Crossing rep.
>Geno
It's gonna happen, if K.Rool went from costume to fighter, Geno will too!
>The Hunter
It is gonna happen, but I wouldn't mind it.
>Lloyd and Gill
They would be cool and all, but when was the last time anyone has requested Lloyd in Smash? I hardly see anyone rooting for him to come in anymore.
>Heihachi, Akira, and Jacky
Heihachi could happen, but I think ever since Ryu filled in the "the fighting game character" role, Heihachi chances are now extremely slim. Akira and Jacky never, because Sega and why would anyone want them?
>>15301990
>Geese Howard
Inb4 it's Terry Bogard making his way into another game
lol, never.
>>15302417
A pretty neat list here, I would rather have Tails in Smash than Shadow, but Tails' chances are relatively lower than Shadow's chances now. Also
>Tertiary
How in the world does that work? "I don't feel like playing as my main today, but my secondaries would be too much. So I will lower my skill prowess and play as my third best characters!" lmao wut?
6c9947 No.15302840
>>15302819
Characters that seem fun enough that I'll mess around with them every once in a while with friends, but I'm not planning on investing much time into.
faad97 No.15303182
>>15302791
no why would they do that, the fuck am i talking about?
>>15302819
its a game with a huge cast and theres probably characters that you like but just dont play that often or arent good at. and its also a rosterfagging thread
984984 No.15303329
>>15300546
>missing the point that rath is both
You're a fucking idiot.
>>15300551
>main: Cloud
>most wanted
>Ashley
>Sora
Gay Disneyfags I swear.
500625 No.15303377
>>15300521
Can't an anon dream, you piece of shit?
>>15300556
I actually wouldn't mind Popeye and Bluto considering their strong early history with Nintendo what with DK, but that just opens the floodgates to all manners of non-vidya autism characters. Still a great list though.
>>15300601
Well fuck.
>>15301188
Such is suffering.
64a892 No.15303381
>minecraft
>cuphead
>goku
>rayman
>kingdom hearts
>digimon
>undertale
>cave story
>raiden
>banjo kazooie
None of these are good. These are all bad.
551040 No.15303387
http://www.allourideas.org/smashu
Holding a poll to determine the most satisfying Smash newcomers for everyone. Vote as many times as you want.
984984 No.15303401
>>15303381
KH, Undertale, Cave Story and Minecraft are the worst though because of how likely they are as assist trophies. I really hope they don't show up in any form. Goku is the worst of all but that's never gonna happen. But the most likely of all is Raiden and I really don't want him since I would rather have Liquid Snake or Gray Fox as the bad guy rep for MGS.
500625 No.15303426
>>15303387
I'd actually be really okay with just these. Although I'd rather have Geno be a duo character accompanied by Mallow or Mallow as one of his moves.
a0cadc No.15303441
>>15302490
They are furfags and need to be purged.
5c7513 No.15303455
>>15303387
This poll's still mega gay, all you can do is select between two people per vote so results are gonna be inaccurate. The top answers don't seem so bad, though I hope no-one uses this poll as an actual reference. At least use poal.me and let people add in characters since you even allow Steve of all people to be voted for
551040 No.15303468
>>15303455
I will reopen the poll right now for additions.
b1ae81 No.15303493
WHY ALL THE ASHLEY HATE? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU FAGS?
>>15300064
Pierce was trully the last great bond.
>>15300343
>To not have Dracula himself playable and instead the other Belmont was a harsh blow.
Anon, it would be completely dumb if the villain was a playable character and not the hero you actually play as in the games.
551040 No.15303512
>>15303455
Now you can really make additions.
500625 No.15303516
>>15303493
>Anon, it would be completely dumb if the villain was a playable character and not the hero you actually play as in the games.
What are you on about? I never said I didn't want Simon. I wanted Simon and Dracula as playable as the Castlevania reps instead of Simon and Richter. A villain for every hero.
>>15303401
Good choices, but I'd prefer Gray Fox.
c34d9b No.15303529
>>15303493
>Anon, it would be completely dumb if the villain was a playable character and not the hero you actually play as in the game
Except when it comes to Eternal Darkness, in which case Pious Augustus should absolutely be playable.
984984 No.15303530
>>15303493
>Ashley
No thanks. We don't need more shitty witches. Bayo will be the next to burn on the stake.
500625 No.15303543
>>15303530
>dat pic
Got any more of those?
b1ae81 No.15303546
>>15303516
Anon, richter is an echo, not a completely different character, wich dracula would need to be.
>>15303529
Sadly eternall darkness was thrown into the void of time.
>>15303530
I can see where youre coming from, but shes a cute witch that wants to make friends, not an evil witch.
a0cadc No.15303551
>>15300601
>replies
So what do the anons want most? Unniggered or Extra-niggered?
fe7c07 No.15303552
>>15303530
That shit, is fucking amazing. Make more.
b1ae81 No.15303569
>>15303543
>>15303552
Should be bayonetta though, after all, shes the one that got simon's final smash.
241479 No.15303571
>>15303530
>Simon and Richter
>burning witches
500625 No.15303575
>>15303546
>Anon, richter is an echo, not a completely different character, wich dracula would need to be.
Yes and there are time constraints, I'm aware. But they could've just avoided adding him as a boss and instead make him a proper playable character later on and make him available through an update or DLC. Its best-vamp Dracula!
c34d9b No.15303579
>>15303530
That's great, but considering Sonia and Maria, I'm not sure they're in the habit of burning witches.
c34d9b No.15303583
>>15303569
It should be both of them then.
b1ae81 No.15303593
>>15303571
Well, simon COULD, but he would be an hipocrite since hes a direct descendant of trevor lewding a reverse trap witch.
>>15303583
I agree, along with the FE one.
>>15303575
Oh completely, dracula, alucard and raziel are the only vampires i like, and dracula being in smash would be really great, with his demon transformation as final smash.
984984 No.15303599
>>15303571
Witches are enemies in Symphony of the Night, faggot.
>>15303579
They're the exceptions for obvious reasons. Richter still burns other witches.
7892a2 No.15303616
No chance in a million years but I want it so fucking bad.
500625 No.15303618
>>15303593
>Burn witches
>I agree, along with the FE one.
>Oh completely, dracula, alucard and raziel are the only vampires i like, and dracula being in smash would be really great, with his demon transformation as final smash.
A man of good tastes I see.
df5915 No.15303620
I'd would make a few changes, like giving Wario a Wario Land based moveset, but for the sake of simplicity here's a list of newcomers I would want or think would be good additions.
>Excitebiker
>Isaac (Golden Sun)
>Takamaru
>Arvis (Villain Rep & Magic User for Fire Emblem)
>Ephraim (GBA Rep & Lance User for Fire Emblem)
>Tingle
>Majora's Mask Link
>Banjo-Kazooie
>Battletoads
>Earthworm Jim
>Goemon
>Rayman
>Bub & Bob or "Bubble Bobble"
>Cecil (Final Fantasy 4) Or Bartz
And ones I think would make good assist trophies or have potential.
>Arthur (Ghosts N' Goblins)
>Firebrand
>Dig-Dug
>Kunio-Kun
>Black Mage
>Mike Jones
>Ryu Hayabusa Could be Playable
>Marx
>Gooey
>Animal Friends
>Prince Fluff
>Pyramid Head (Could work similar to his appearance in Bomberman R)
>Crono Fuck You
>Geno Fuck You
>Jack Frost Fuck You
>Ryu (Breath of Fire)
>Plok
>Rambi (Or could work as an Item)
>Porky
And stages aside from obvious Newcomer based ones.
>Mole Mania Stage
>Inside the Dungeon Man
>StarTropics Stage
>Marvelous: Another Treasure Island Stage
Sorry for the big ass autism post, but someone had to do it.
5c7513 No.15303627
>>15303512
>someone removed Kunio
The hell? He was starting to get votes there, not even a minute after I threw him in he had 20. You might wanna check who's moderating the whole thing.
500625 No.15303629
>>15303616
I can see him getting in as an assist trophy though. For him to be playable he'll need a lot of demand from either the west, japs or both, and so far I hardly see poor old Taggart Doomguy get requested outside of a few minor mentions. If he does somehow make it in, would they call him Doom Guy, Doom Slayer or Taggart?
7892a2 No.15303645
>>15303629
I'm hoping Doom Slayer honestly. Much as I fucking love the classics, Doom Slayer's appearance and behavior are my favorite. Doom Eternal is shaping up to be nice but I prefer Doom Slayer's original armor. I understand people might call both of these over designed messes but for me that only applies to Doom Slayer's appearance in Eternal Doom.
500625 No.15303655
>>15303620
>like giving Wario a Wario Land based moveset
Never gonna happen at this point sadly. At the very least I hope they give him a pith helmet as part of an alternate costume.
>Ephraim
Old characters are forgotten sadly unless they were in Melee. They'll only add more shitty swordfags or Awakening characters at this point.
>Cecil<<<<<<Bartz
>Majora's Mask Link
Isn't that just young Link? They could just give him Fierce Deity as a final smash.
b1ae81 No.15303661
>>15303599
Anon, there are both good and bad witches in castlevania, just like everything else.
You also fight werewolves normally, but you also get to play as one.
>>15303618
My fellow gentleman.
c7fbb3 No.15303685
Here's my pick of never-evers.
>>15302417
I'd love an EO rep, but not a sword user. Fortress would be amazing if she mostly used the sheild. Sniper or Dancer would be neat too.
500625 No.15303692
>>15303645
I prefer his design in the first pic. Second one looks too burly to the point where it somehow looks fat, or maybe its because of the exposed skin looks kinda flabby even though its supposed to be muscular. That always kinda bugged me personally. I certainly wouldn't run around with bare skin while fighting super demons in Hell. Still either design would be interesting, but something tells me Sakurai would go with a new design that puts emphasis on nostalgia. If so, hopefully we'll get these as costumes. Assuming of course "Doomguy" Taggart has a chance.
>>15303661
>My fellow gentleman.
Shit is getting way too classy in here.
df5915 No.15303696
>>15303655
>Isn't that just Young Link?
No, it would be Young Link, but with his gear and mask transformations from Majora's Mask. Like his Gilded Sword and Mirror Shield. And not transformation in the sense of Pokemon Trainer or how Zelda/Sheik used to work, but in the sense that most of his attacks like Smashes and specials would involve a quick transformation form.
>Up Smash = Deku Flower Pop
>Forward Smash = Goron Punch
>Down Smash = Zora Fins
>Up Special = Deku Petal Flight
>Side Special = Goron Roll
>Down Special = Boomerang Fins
>Neutral Special = Fire Arrows
500625 No.15303717
>>15303685
Sir Arthur was already in Marvel vs Capcom, but he might have a chance probably because of that too. And his games were on NES and Gameboy for a time.
>>15303696
That would actually be an improvement over having him remain as a shorter Link/Toon Link echo.
e4ee1f No.15303876
well, its quite the sausage party in here. youll die of gay if you dont post cute girls. am i going to have to do it?
dde5f8 No.15303883
>>15303696
>Turns into Deku Link just for a split second to do the attack
>This means high res Deku Link model can be extracted for SFM porn
Man, Smash is great
b1ae81 No.15303906
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>>15303876
No, only rad dudes allowed.
e4ee1f No.15303916
>>15303906
doctors orders. your homosexuality should clear up before you can say "goddamn waifufags"
500625 No.15303927
>>15303916
Who are the 2 kids in the top right corner and the one with the axe in the bottom right corner?
241479 No.15303928
>>15303906
misassembled, laser-firing, light stealing crystal pokemon another world are pretty rad
984984 No.15303931
>>15303928
He'll just be a pokeball assist.
564727 No.15303932
>>15303530
Trashley burns because she is useless but you'll never pull that shit on Baeonetta. Don't hate her just because she's perfect.
241479 No.15303935
>>15303927
>he doesn't recognize cave story
500625 No.15303941
>>15303935
I consider that a good thing. Fuck it.
e4ee1f No.15303943
>>15303927
quote, curly and chain gun or presia, depending on which axe you mean.
if you dont recognize cave story id recommend you give it a whirl. rooty tooty jumpy shooty.
984984 No.15303955
>>15303932
>implying Richter couldn't bust her ass and put her on the stake
I expected better of you earthwormbro.
e4ee1f No.15303957
>>15303928
pink floyd album cover seems like a pretty cool guy
b1ae81 No.15303980
>>15303916
>rad dudes
>homo
Begone!
>>15303932
Ashley isnt useless you cunt, shes a witch in training.
And true faith would defeat bayonetta any day of the week, like >>15303955 said, richter could take her.
23904d No.15303986
>>15299493
>>15299286
>Necrozma
You know, I have a hard time arguing against that.
>Flawed Gem form
>final smash turns it into it's true form and uses Light that Burns the Sky
>otherwise fights like it's in pain
Pretty neat… though I'd personally argue this freaky fuck.
564727 No.15304019
>>15303955
>Implying the Castlevania dudes aren't going to be bottom tier trash
>Implying any amount of nerfs will ever stop Bayonetta
Perfection cannot be held back.
>>15303980
>Ashley isnt useless you cunt, shes a witch in training.
That means she is useless you dumb fuck. Even other witches in training at least have a higher success rate of spell casting than fucking 40%. Get Trashley out of here
241479 No.15304022
>>15303986
while Elvis Guzzlord is pretty cool too, Necrozma was a main antagonist, which is why i want it playable in the first place.
b1ae81 No.15304039
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>>15304019
>That means she is useless you dumb fuck.
So according to you all witches are born knowing the ways of witchcraft and as fully developed women you cunt?
Also, shes getting gud, she defeated a demon in warioware gold.
Also, the holy light of the belmonts will triumph over the heretical witch.
77bd23 No.15304054
>>15304019
>implying any amount of nerfs will ever stop Bayonetta
People said that about Meta Knight when Sm4sh was coming out too and look what happened
23904d No.15304061
8531ac No.15304080
>>15304019
Sakurai himself saw the shit Bayonetta is capable of at E3. She'll be nerfedto shit when the game launches. And the Belmont's look really promising. Especially with their insane range. I can see them being mid tier at the very least with high tier potential
564727 No.15304138
=>>15304054
Bayonetta already got hit with extreme nerfs in a patch in Smash 4. She still dominated like a motherfucker.
Old Mr. Sakurai had a problem with his game,
A gun-toting witch who just put everyone to shame.
He tried and he tried to nerf the witch away,
He brought a build to E3 and let people play on stage.
BUT THE WITCH CAME BACK
THE VERY NEXT DAY
THE WITCH CAME BACK, WE THOUGHT THE NERFS WOULD KILL HER
BUT THE WITCH CAME BACK
SHE JUST WOULD NOT LEAVE TOP TIER
e4ee1f No.15304264
>>15304138
he was probably being careful with nerfs after how meta knight turned out. its not like they left diddy in an unplayable state
e4ee1f No.15304277
>>15304262
theres nothing to bully. although im curious where you saw tracer, bunker boy or meat boy suggested
57e1d2 No.15304304
>>15300795
I genuinely want Hornet to fight too. The F-zero medley remix sung by THAT man even implies it as a possibility.
44fe62 No.15304319
>>15304277
I've seen Meat Boy requested a lot, and belive it or not some fucking retards actually want VaultBoy and/or Tracer in the game just search tracer and smash bros and see it for yourself
30be08 No.15304344
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>>15303377
>I actually wouldn't mind Popeye and Bluto considering their strong early history with Nintendo what with DK
Popeye and Brutus were in a Nintendo game, though. It came out in the interim between Donkey Kong Jr. and Mario Bros.
57e1d2 No.15304356
>>15304344
Yeah, that might actually be fun.
500625 No.15304358
>>15304344
That's what I said. Emphasis on
>their strong early history with Nintendo
500625 No.15304362
>>15304319
>Meat Boy
>Vault Boy
>fucking TRACER
500625 No.15304374
>>15304080
>>15304138
>>15304019
The sooner this bitch gets nerfed the better.
>>15303980
>>15303955
This honestly.
30be08 No.15304381
>>15304356
Brutus would make a good clone of Donkey Kong, Popeye a good clone of Captain Falcon.
>>15304358
"What with DK" implied it was just about their initial failed arrangement with King Features when Donkey Kong was in development.
e4ee1f No.15304615
>>15304381
>falcon/popeye
little mac for sure.
634b27 No.15304616
>>15301012
Is that Jet Force Gemini?
12ce77 No.15304640
>>15304616
Yup. Wanting them playable is unreasonable, but as a single team AT? Floyd too.
I was wondering if anyone would recognize them, to be honest.
db3be3 No.15304669
>>15299276
The roster for Smash Ultimate is pretty close. Adding Chrono and Adol would be great, but the roster is already over saturated with sword users because of all those Fire Emblem characters. Terry from Fatal Fury and Banjo would also be cool. Everyone else I'd want is too obscure or forgotten to get in.
5c7513 No.15304697
>>15304669
Go ahead and list your pipe dreams anon, we're crazy enough to have Kuniofags and Lipfags, alongside Earthworm Jimfags but I do not want to believe he's obscure for even a moment. Hell I'm pretty sure we've got some Goemonfags somewhere too.
5c7513 No.15304708
>>15304697
I mean "not obscure" as a compliment, by the way, for any EJfags here. You guys are cool.
ea3a38 No.15304739
>>15300601
What the hell is this voice even chanting? Is that English or what?
500625 No.15304774
>>15304615
This basically but with a twister punch since Popeye was a professional boxer when he wasn't sailing.
500625 No.15304789
>tfw there was a Metal Popeye
Well I'll be. Its like he was made for Smash Bros. The only problem I see is that normalfags wouldn't get the Popeye+Nintendo connection and would start demanding characters completely unrelated to Nintendo or vidya to be added to Smash. Before we know it we'd have a cluttered mess of undesirables and Smash would be forced to become the vidya version of Ready Player Pleb.
984984 No.15304793
>>15304789
>Ready Player Pleb
Not
>Reddit Player One
A bit disappointed to be honest.
500625 No.15304801
>>15304782
Why is Link in your most wanted? Or do you mean you want a Link that doesn't look like the sissy elfag we have now?
e762d3 No.15304809
>>15304801
I prefer OOT Link's design and moveset and Young Link still has a lot of his Melee attributes like fire arrows, the multi-hit spin attack, and shorter hookshot range. Out of everyone on my most wanted he's the least likely, but I'm still holding out since I doubt Sakurai would pass up a chance to have the original Smash 64 roster right down to the finest detail
500625 No.15304812
>>15304809
Maybe Classic Link will hopefully return as a costume. It might not have a perfect recreation of the original moveset, but his face, clothes and weapon designs would maybe be faithful to the original OoT design.
e4ee1f No.15304858
>>15304669
forgotten doesnt mean much to smash bros when its been used to revive things like punchout and kid icarus.
db3be3 No.15304862
>>15304697
>Kuniofags and Lipfags, alongside Earthworm Jimfags
>Goemonfags
I would love all of those. In addition to those my dream roster would have:
Erwin from Der Langrisser, but instead of just being a guy with a sword, like the Fire Emblem characters, he would command a small squad of soldiers like in the game and all of his B moves would be based around using them.
Quote from Cave Story
Little Samson
One of the Guily Gear characters, I can't decide on one
Jazeta from Neutopia
Justin from Grandia
Cotton from the Cotton games
The Princess from Magical Pop'n
Kawase from Umihara Kawase
Ark from Terranigma
Valis
One of the Heroes from the SMT series, with all his moves based around using demons.
Vanilla in his mech from Steambot Chronicles
Plok
Crash and/or Spyro
8531ac No.15304889
>>15304138
Witch time is already gone. Relegated to a final smash. As soon as her dumbass ladder combos are removed, she'll be far from top tier. I've never been too upset about her in smash 4, but she was the final nail in the coffin for my decision to completely disregard smash 4 competitive. It had a lot of problems before, but bayo drove home the negatives by creating a larger divide between the top and middle tier, had some pretty repetitive combos for spectators, and forced some of the only fast characters to slow down. I really domt mind her in casual play because most people dont know how to use her, but comp bayo just isnt much fun to watch. Plus she only ever brings out autists who are unnaturally mad about her existing, or smug cunts who want to indulge in the salt because they like bayo, even if they domt give a shit about the logistics behind the hate. But I digress. Thus us just an autisticslly long (you) so I shouldn't have bothered.
>>15304862
>Kawase
That would be really cool actually. I was pleased she got into blade strangers, would be neat to see her get into smash. Although realistically shes not gonna be in it as anything more than an assist, or just a regular trophy
564727 No.15304900
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>>15304889
>Witch time is already gone. Relegated to a final smash.
What the fuck are you talking about you idiot? She still has Witch Time and her FS is still Infernal Climax just like it was in the last game. I take it you're a brainlet who hasn't seen much of her or played her original game to be able to tell the difference between her FS and her normal attack.
e4ee1f No.15304901
>>15304862
>guilty gear
if its may we can keep the pirate train rolling. theres so many potential pirates for this game.
e3f5b9 No.15304919
>>15303616
Don't give up hope, anon. If the big boys could get in, he still has a shot. ;-;
>>15304262
Nothin' to bully you for, this is a great list.
6c9947 No.15304924
>>15303685
Dragoon could also make a pretty cool EO rep as a tanky zoner with lots of projectiles and using bunkers as traps.
77bd23 No.15304926
I want everyone in this gif in Smash except for Kratos and maybe 2B
9d1660 No.15304937
>>15304858
Anon how dare you, punch out wasnt dead.
Unless if that game flopped i guess
Lip from Panel de Pon most certainly IS dead though.
Literally no one in the west knows who she is except for these threads, but that didnt stop pit from getting in.
634b27 No.15304956
>>15304640
The game was great. Unfortunately it belongs to MS now, unless Nintendo, Rare and MS also forgot about it.
77bd23 No.15304995
>>15304926
Turns out there's an updated version of this gif
551040 No.15305035
234818 No.15305067
Pretty much a good chunk of characters that i wanted in Sma5h are Assist Trophies which is Sakurai's friendly way to say "Fuck you!"
>Bomberman cucked and his creator died not so long ago after the reveal
>Krystal tough having a decent playstyle for an Assist Trophy didn't make it
>Zero is still dead and now he's in Assist Trophy hell
Well at least Daisy made it in so that's a consolation prize for me.
564727 No.15305083
>>15305035
>Lip isn't in there
Fake news.
57e1d2 No.15305084
>>15305067
>his creator died not so long ago after the reveal
he fucking what
>Krystal tough having a decent playstyle for an Assist Trophy didn't make it
Cuckstal should be in nothing and I do not understand why so many people still like her.
435ca4 No.15305087
>>15305067
>wanting Krystal
Zero isnt a bad choice but if you were actually expecting him as the next Mega Man rep you are very mistaken.
I wanted Bomberman as well, every smash since I was a kid. I am happy with an assist though cause I got Simon and Mega Man who were all I ever needed
50779c No.15305095
>>15305067
I would saying being an clone is just as much of a "fuck you".
Whats that? You want x character?
Okay here you go, just have this copy/pasted shit, dont say I never do anything for you.
What's that? Give them a unique moveset they actually deserve instead of being a lazy fuck? No too bad have a clone instead.
Wait, better rebrand that as Echo Fighter™ so it doesnt sound as bad.
b1ae81 No.15305098
>>15305067
>krystal
Furries should not be allowed in smash.
>>15305083
Atleast get new pictures lipfag.
952fcd No.15305108
>>15305084
>I do not understand why so many people still like her.
Because "muh rainbow dogcock".
6efd0b No.15305112
>>15305098
>Furries should not be allowed in smash.
Depending on what you define as furry, we already have fox, falco, wolf, ridley, k.rool, diddy kong, donkey kong, bowser, bowser jr, various pokemon, kind dedede, and yoshi.
234818 No.15305113
>>15305095
Got to agree how i hate how he justifies clones or Echo fighters like he calls them now might as well not add them at all Dark Samus was unique when she was an Assist Trophy in Sm4sh and could have work around a bit and make her unique but no she got the clone treatment.
57e1d2 No.15305130
>>15305108
I suppose there's that, but I'm mainly asking people why they so thoroughly enjoy getting cucked by Panther.
234818 No.15305131
>>15305098
Say that to Fox, Falco, Pikachu, Mewtwo, Lucario, DK, Diddy Kong, Bowser, Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings, King K. Rool and Ridley.
b1ae81 No.15305134
>>15305112
antropomorphic animals.
DK, diddy, dedede and k.rool are cartoonish animals.
Bowser, bowser jr, the pokeymans, yoshi and ridley are fantasy lizards/cartoonish.
Sadly, all of the starfox crew are furry tier, and i like starfox.
6efd0b No.15305138
>>15305134
Well that's still two characters set as precedent, and krystal is a part of starfox.
b1ae81 No.15305147
>>15305131
Read >>15305134 you disgusting furry fuck.
>>15305138
>Well that's still two characters set as precedent
Who?
6efd0b No.15305150
>>15305147
Fox and falco dipshit.
b1ae81 No.15305154
>>15305150
I said that sadly they are furry tier, didnt i?
6efd0b No.15305161
>>15305154
Yes, you did. Making them furry characters that are in smash. Hence saying that furry characters should not be in smash is voided by them already being in.
50779c No.15305167
>>15305113
I can only hope Ultimate gets good modders on board and the declone the echoes.
I would love to see Daisy throw Super Balls, fly around in the Skypop for her recovery move, and have a big ol slap for her f-smash.
b1ae81 No.15305176
>>15305161
I said they shouldnt, not that they arent, ae you drunk m8?
6efd0b No.15305179
>>15305176
So you want them removed?
b1ae81 No.15305192
>>15305179
I want furries to dissapear from this world so that i wont have to associate funny animals driving starships with their disgusting ways.
If i cant have that, atleast get them out of anything i enjoy.
1f132b No.15305200
>>15305067
>Krystal tough having a decent playstyle for an Assist Trophy didn't make it
>decent playstyle
You could say that shit about ANY potential character.
I still can't understand her popularity (is with the Starfox fanbase or just furries or a small very vocal overlap of both?)
I have seen comments from SF fans saying they wouldn't buy a new Starfox game if she wasn't in it, seen fans claiming Nintendo doesn't want her around and lead to her not being in the Starfox Assault radio chatter easter egg on the Oritbal Gate stage in Smash 4 (maybe they just couldn't get her voice actress?) while ignoring that she still got a trophy in Smash 4 (if Nintendo didn't want her around why leave a trophy in?)
I find fans who like Krystal to be bizarre. I'm seen fans claim she's a strong female character when she really isn't, she a mysterious character with barely any backstory, a strange vague powerset and being female seems to have made people not forget her (serves as possible love interest for Fox and Rule 34 for fan artists). She reminds me of Rey from Ep7 TFA, a character with unknown backstory, strange powers of unknown skill (and staff combat use).
6efd0b No.15305207
>>15305192
Sounds like you're a faggot who lets other people determine how much fun he has with something. I'd suggest changing that.
b1ae81 No.15305208
>>15305200
>is with the Starfox fanbase or just furries or a small very vocal overlap of both?
Anon, she was introduced in a game that wasnt even meant to be a starfox game and just gave a re-skin to have fox in, furries started yiffing about it ans since then she shows up, thats the extent of it.
7e1cdb No.15305221
>>15303493
>WHY ALL THE ASHLEY HATE? WHATS WRONG WITH YOU FAGS?
I'll be real with you. I don't want Ashley, but it has nothing to do with her character or whether she deserves a spot and purely for my own very selfish reasons. It's very clear that if Warioware were to ever get a character, it would be Ashley. She has consistently been by far the most popular character of that series and stood out among the rest. Also, I personally actually like Ashley a lot.
The reason why I don't want Ashley is simple. Her getting in would be the final nail in the coffin of Wario's identity as a character being being associated with WarioWare and overtaking Wario Land completely. I've been butthurt for a long time over the state of Wario games. Despite being a successful franchise, the Land games are dead. In Smash they rep WarioWare far more then Wario Land, despite it being Wario's identity of who he is today. Hell they even had the audacity to get rid of his shoulder bash at one point. Ashley's inclusion would nail this cold reality even further and likely forever entrench Wario as the "WarioWare" guy among the masses.
Again, this is purely for my own selfish reasons, but I can't help how I feel. Despite me liking the character, her getting in wouldn't be met with glee for me, but groans. Had Wario gotten better representation in Smash and had Nintendo better balanced hiss Land and Ware personas I probably wouldn't be this autistic about this and accept Ashley gleefully. Yet, here we are.
99a149 No.15305241
>>15305221
They brought the shoulder bash back as his dash attack.
b1ae81 No.15305246
>>15305221
I mean, i get that, and i dont think she deserves a spot over characters like protoman, bill razer and other interesting ones, but people are overdoing it way too much when shes just a cute witch from a hilarius game series.
6efd0b No.15305255
>>15305221
I think it's more of the autism coming from mona and ashley wars that is putting people off. And if one of those did get in, the vindication from one side and the denial and asshurt from the other would go on for weeks and pervade every thread.
1f132b No.15305258
>>15304937
>but that didnt stop pit from getting in.
Sakurai has stated that Pit got in Brawl because of high sales of the Famicom classics GBA port of Kid Icarus.
234818 No.15305259
>>15305200
It's always the crazy fans that ruins everything plus she was cucked out of her own game due to Miyamoto getting involved, yes Nintendo still acknowledge her but after Assault Nintendo went back and started making remake after remake of SF 64 and don't know how to continue the series which that explains as to why she is considered "forgotten" though Platinum games said if they ever get to do the next SF game their way they will probably fix all those answers that Nintendo refused to explain.
b1ae81 No.15305262
>>15305255
There is not such a thing as mona and ashley wars, its monafag being a huge unlikable autist and people taking the piss by posting ashley to make him mad.
6efd0b No.15305267
>>15305262
I haven't been following it closely enough to know if there was more than person or not.
b1ae81 No.15305317
>>15305267
This is the thing, there is an autistic monafag with gigantism fetish that keeps going on about it, people take sides in his imaginary waifu wars because its hilarius, i know becauce ive shitposted on both sides.
7e1cdb No.15305326
>>15305241
yeah I know, I'm merely talking about the fact they ever did in the first place
564727 No.15305396
>>15305221
You must not support Ashley and support Mona instead.
Just a reminder.
08886b No.15305442
>>15300807
The minigame where Wario sells expensive doodles to a hipster.
>>15300821
Perhaps Shake it was the reason why they stopped bothering, it got overshadowed by: Brawl, Mario Kart, Sluggers and its piss poor marketing campaign
8531ac No.15305479
>>15304900
I did actually play Bayo 1, thought it was okay. I was never a huge fan of the DMC games, so I had pretty much the same response to it. Anyways I was wrong about witch time it seems. Dont think I've ever used her final smash in 4, barely ever even seen it, so I was under the impression that her original FS was climax with no slowdown, and they changed it to have slowdown in this one. I think MKleo used it at the e3 tourney which is where I drew the misconception. Regardless, that sucks. She shouldn't have witch time at all, since its effectively a counter that let's you pick a smash move to punish with. Or hell, you can initiate ladders if you know the timing well enough. Well whatever, I'm still confident that Sakurai is gonna nerf her into the ground. Witch time is good, but it's not good enough to carry a character all by itself. I'm looking forward to seeing her being a mid tier so nobody will give a shit about her smash iteration anymore
df5915 No.15305515
>lipfags are here
Lip should be an assist and nothing more.
>>15303717
Imagine some of the other moves he could pull off. Having the Great Fairy Sword for tilts maybe? Shooting a Deku Bubble or Deku Nut as an aerial? Incorporate his cool ass flips in some way? Majora's Mask Link has so much potential and would be such an iconic addition to Smash Bros. and better represent the Legend of Zelda series.
I also think Toon Link should get a reworked moveset that features items exclusive to his games like Wind Waker's Deku Leaf, Minish Cap's Pegasus Boots, Ezlo as a taunt and Four Sword as a Final Smash
6efd0b No.15305518
>>15305515
>Four Sword as a Final Smash
could b nito
df5915 No.15305527
>>15305515
>items exclusive to his game
>pegasus boots
I was originally going to put Roc's Cape, but I felt Deku Leaf was better and I didn't go back to correct my statement.
df5915 No.15305603
>>15305518
Having every character in Super Smash Bros with a moveset that would follow their games as closely as possible would be neato. Or that is, having all of their moves taken directly from or referencing their other games as much as possible. This would include Final Smashes. Imagine if Mario could glide using his Super Mario World cape, used his Lazy Shell from Super Mario RPG as a Smash Attack or used his dive from Super Mario 64 as a dash attack? What if his Final Smash was FLUDD's Rocket or Turbo Nozzle? Imagine if Link's Final Smash was a mix of all 3 medallions from Link to the Past? These characters are iconic, they should be using moves that are iconic in themselves.
564727 No.15305648
>>15305515
>Lip should be an assist and nothing more.
I want her playable but even if she just ends up an assist I'll be fine with it. Any sort of acknowledgment would be a blessing at this point.
42459f No.15305664
>>15301687
If they add K.K SLider who will be in charge of playing music at the animal crossing stages saturday nights when people do pick him? FUCKING ALFONZO?
df5915 No.15305680
>>15305648
I understand your pain, but I think her block placement abilities would work out better as an assist. I wish Mike Jones or Kunio-Kun could be playable, but I see them working out better as assists. Ultimately, who I want aren't necessarily my favorite characters, but ones who are absolute classic gaming icons like Goemon and would further the sense of wholeness and completeness or variety of gaming history in Super Smash Bros.
500625 No.15305707
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>>15305648
Must be real painful to know that not even the modding community has bothered to make a playable Lip. Anyway I hope the modding community figures out how to fuck with Smash U and improve it soon so I can get my fucking Dracula among other things in case our wish lists don't become a thing.
564727 No.15305723
>>15305707
If you ever get that done, I made a model you guys can use for animations. It's fully rigged and set up for animation in Maya LT and I let anyone download it to tinker around with.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOS_fbyHqV2bPL0iYkJa6v4RzhDjlYrw/view
6a0ca2 No.15305747
>>15305396
mona a gay. Ashley is patirican.
564727 No.15305755
>>15305747
Liking fully developed and fertile women does not make you gay, Anon.
6a0ca2 No.15305786
>>15305755
>Liking fully developed and fertile women does not make you gay, Anon.
Of course.
Mona's still poopdick-tier to Ashley though.
564727 No.15305796
>>15305786
>Your girl is so trash that you have to advance her age by several years just to make her fuckable
I truly pity you Ashleyfags sometimes.
df5915 No.15305811
>waifuwar faggotry
Please stop. Wario would want none of this, his only love is gold and money. Be like Wario
6a0ca2 No.15305815
>>15305796
<you have to advance her age by several years just to make her fuckable
Well, yes. I don't want to fuck a little girl. Still, her personality even as an undeveloped growing woman is a myriad more interesting than muh mary sue.
500625 No.15305835
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>>15305723
Send it to that Nairo faggot who made this video.
6efd0b No.15305856
>>15305815
>I don't want to fuck a little girl
8b970f No.15305879
Any of these characters would be good, and my other choices Django and Marina were already posted in the thread
99a149 No.15305891
Ashley and Mona equally suck
df5915 No.15305893
I'M SO GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUPER SMASH BROS RIGHT NOW AND DISCUSSING WHAT IMPROVEMENTS AND CHANGES COULD BE MADE TO BETTERMENT THE GAME AS AN OVERALL MORE ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE.
GOSH, I SURE HOPE THIS INSTALLMENT HAS THE INCLUSION OF MORE WAIFUBAIT, BECAUSE GAMEPLAY AND CONTENT IS UNIMPORTANT COMPARED TO ARGUING OVER THE INTERNET.
Ashley will never be more than an assist.
Mona will never be more than an assist, and even so she's unlikely unless more WarioWare characters show up as assists.
6efd0b No.15305907
>>15305893
I don't see how you survive here if people being vapid retards and falling for waifubait angers you.
5c7513 No.15305911
>waifu wars
We need a manlier war to drown this out like a Kunio, Double Dragon, and Battletoads triple tag team. Quick, who's the best beat-em-up rep, I'll call you a faggot no matter what you pick so we can needlessly drag this out!
>>15305893
I hope tourneyfags at least try out the final smash meter at tournies, though two final smashes not being able to be up at once kinda sucks. I could understand if you couldn't do a final smash while a final smash animation was playing, but not having it in the first place blows. Doesn't having a final smash ready to use also increase your overall stats, too, or was that my imagination?
190b75 No.15305918
>>15305891
>nupenny
literally the calarts of warioware
a925c3 No.15305923
>>15305835
>movie Thanos
>Deadpool
Disg. These shits are optional right?
500625 No.15305936
>>15305923
I don't know. I sure hope so.
df5915 No.15305943
>>15305907
I don't mind thread derailment at times if it's an interesting discussion, but here the difference is that it's an argument over petty bland tasteless waifus by the same 2 autists who show up in every vaguely related thread. It's tiring to see this same exact shit everytime, especially Monafag who somehow manage to bait other faggots into giving him attention.
>>15305911
Battletoads, they're more cartoony than the others so they'd fit within the world of Nintendo.
564727 No.15305951
>>15303329
>>missing the point that rath is both
>You're a fucking idiot.
No need to be angry because I proved you wrong, Anon. You brainlets don't have an easy life.
5c7513 No.15306003
>>15305943
YOU FUCKING FA–
–mily man. Kunio's also cartoony/silly but Battletoads honestly have him beat in that regard. It'd also be funny to see them beat the shit out of Ryu with stretchy limbs in a trailer, since that'd get people thinking Dhalism is in
yes I fucked up my last post bad pls no bully
df5915 No.15306012
>>15305983
I also feel the cartoonish design of the Battletoads gives them a more iconic look and feel. You could argue Kunio and the Double Dragon team are "just dudes." Whereas the Battletoads have character central first and foremost, their style can't be replicated by giving "a dude" a ripped jacket or white school uniform. It's in the same way that Mario can look like Mario without overalls.
>>15306003
Why would I bully someone with good taste? A lot of Beat 'Em Up characters should be included one way or another.
5c7513 No.15306063
>>15306012
I personally base my tastes more on what a character can do/whatever they have the potential to do more than their looks, which is why I love the idea of either Battletoads or Kunio in Smash and Dragon Bros. in assist trophy. Abobo too because why the hell not. The only things saving Kunio from looking like "a dude" if he ever gets his clothes taken away is the art style and all the unique shit he can do + being the beat-em-up granddaddy, but when you compare that to all the qualities Battletoads has when it comes to character the frogs got him beat. Kunio's iconic, but Battletoads is even more iconic, and we can't have enough eye-bulging characters in Smash either, that shit's golden. I dunno where the fuck I'm going with this "argument," I just can't refute a fellow anon with great tastes.
a925c3 No.15306105
>>15305951
>No need to be angry because I proved you wrong, Anon.
At what point did you prove that anon (or anyone) wrong, fatass? This is the first time in the series a character is both a boss and an assist. That's a fact.
500625 No.15306111
>>15305943
>Battletoads, they're more cartoony than the others so they'd fit within the world of Nintendo.
I think this is what I primarily want to see more of in Smash. Less humanoid or cartoony characters.
500625 No.15306114
>>15306003
>yes I fucked up my last post bad pls no bully
I don't see any fuck ups.
df5915 No.15306129
>>15306063
This was an argument? Kunio would be amazing if he got more attention, but I feel Battletoads would serve better as an icon for Beat-Em-Ups as a whole despite Kunio being first. Who knows maybe Sakurai will consider Kunio as a retro character? I've never consider Battletoads all that retro myself. I'd say Kunio could be more likely considering Battletoads are owned by Rare and you know how that is.
>tfw you'll never throw a trashcan in your enemies face in smash bros
I have to say though, you have me on board and my support. Smash Bros needs a grappler character and the aggressive gang style would be an extra bonus. Hopefully with enough awareness spread and enough interest gained, we could start a movement similar to Ridley and King K. Rool.
And a side note, not to get you down, but Kunio looks very similar to Ryu and that's something they might consider.
5c7513 No.15306159
>>15306114
I fucked up the red text because I forgot it doesn't work with spoilers and then quickly deleted the post to cover my tracks
>>15306129
Why not both, then? The cartoony, never say too old duo. The real Ultimate Team. ArcSys could use the exposure with Kunio, and I bet Rare could finally consider whoring out some of their IPs considering just how internet shattering Smash is whenever a new reveal gets announced. I don't think it'd be too crazy to have them both in at the same time, considering they're both two different franchises. Nah, I'm not let down at all. I'm sure if they make him a small character, give him the brown hair in his art, and give him a red shirt like he has in Rival Showdown or even the Shodai box art he can look far different
564727 No.15306217
>>15306105
It's a negligible difference. They're functionally the exact same thing. The only difference is that sometimes the stage will call the AT function instead of the item.
That Anon is just another dumb Waluigifag who can't accept that he lost and his shitty character isn't going to be playable so he needs to grasp at straws for a reason why he will be. The argument was never "the character isn't a boss and an assist at the same time", it was the idea that this means ATs will be playable. Maybe you'd see that if you learned to read.
df5915 No.15306267
>>15306159
>never say too old duo
Started fucking around trying to make a similar poster to King K. Rool and Ridley, what do you think of this?
5c7513 No.15306280
>>15306267
Fucking amazing, though it could use a bit more image height at the top and a "Rash and Kunio in…" alongside some Kamina glasses for Kunio to match Rash's sunglasses. y'know, 'cuz old memes go well with old characters
b11637 No.15306281
Still needs Bimmy and Jimmy Lee.
df5915 No.15306298
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>>15306280
>battletoads reveal happens
>and by the way, we have another fighter from the beat-em-up genre
>music kicks in
5c7513 No.15306314
>>15306281
And you're still a cheeky fook mate. I would laugh all the way to the grave if Billy got in but someone, intentionally or unintentionally, fucked up the spelling to exactly that
>>15306298
I have a feeling that Kunio would be revealed before Battletoads to hype up the Battletoads reveal, since more people know about the frogs, but that'd still be badass. Unless they just straight-up show Alex for the west and then note he's Kunio
5c7513 No.15306417
>>15306403
Now that's gonna be saved and framed on my goddamn wall next time I get the chance. Very excellent.
564727 No.15306567
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Ah man, around Brawl I was on a huge Battletoads kick and would've loved to see them in the game.
I'd still love a Battletoads character (although chances are it'd be Rash instead of my boy Pimple which sucks for me).
c7fbb3 No.15306823
>>15305879
>Django and Marina
Great taste. Brian's a good idea too. I really like magic characters like Ness and Robin, and he's got a shit-ton of spells to make a good moveset out of.
e4ee1f No.15306991
>>15305893
characters directly relate to content and gameplay.
look. if you want them to make more wario land games, make a fangame and make a huge deal about it over the internet and open a patreon so you can get a cease and desist and nintendo will come out in a month saying "no i am gonna do it not you its my IP."
1f132b No.15307362
>>15305603
>These characters are iconic, they should be using moves that are iconic in themselves.
It's one of the most annoying things about Smash is how so many of the character movesets feel locked in and don't get changed even when there are more game accurate substitutions. Or weird stuff like Wario's game accurate shoulder charge being removed and then put back in.
>>15305515
>>15305648
A block dropping Lip assist would be pretty cool.
>>15305680
>Mike Jones
I voted for him in the ballot but felt worried his yo-yo and other items like his baseball bat would make him sound like Ness. I know he's got plenty of weird items to use as attacks though (cleats, baseball, bola, alien ray guns).
a925c3 No.15307899
>>15306217
>They're functionally the exact same thing.
No they aren't. Functionally? Yes. But you're missing the entire fucking point. Rathalos does indeed function in a way that makes it both usable as a boss and an assist. But new assists like Knuckles function much like you would expect for playable characters as well, so if Rath can be two things because of similar functionality, then the same is true for any other assist that meets a certain criteria. The fact that your playing the "this can't happen because I say so" card is just fucking naive and the same bullshit anti-Ridleyfags would pull. Anything is possible at this point even through DLC, and this is coming from someone who fucking hates the fact that Waluigi exists and would rather have Captain Syrup as the other Wario rep.
a925c3 No.15307904
>>15306267
>the K. Rool and Ridley one were made years ago
>shit comes true now
Maybe some fucking internet magic will happen and your shit may come true now or in 10 years in the Ultimate port for the next console.
03a7b9 No.15307936
>>15307904
popularity isnt internet magic. those guys topped polls. the real magic is rigging polls and memes. something furries arent above.
564727 No.15308652
>>15307899
>They're functionally the exact same thing.
>No they aren't. Functionally? Yes
>They aren't, except they are
Wow I can already tell this is going to be a well-crafted and brilliant universe-brain argument.
>Rathalos does indeed function in a way that makes it both usable as a boss and an assist. But new assists like Knuckles function much like you would expect for playable characters as well, so if Rath can be two things because of similar functionality, then the same is true for any other assist that meets a certain criteria. The fact that your playing the "this can't happen because I say so" card is just fucking naive and the same bullshit anti-Ridleyfags would pull.
But the fact remains that they're NOT playable characters, and anything else is just grasping at fucking straws trying to claim that they will be playable. The playable cast has balancing and gameplay style as things to take into consideration - ATs are just filler that ignore these considerations because they're not ever intended to be playable. If they did intend for them to be playable then they would have to completely revamp their movesets and make them fully fledged characters - essentially the same as making new characters from scratch. In which case it wouldn't make sense to waste development time and resources making them Assist Trophies.
You retards really have no ground to stand on saying that ATs will be playable and this conversation is fucking stupid.
ac3bf5 No.15308744
>>15300734
>Rex
>not the Zekenator
Do you even really feel it?
e4ee1f No.15309926
>>15308652
>In which case it wouldn't make sense to waste development time and resources making them Assist Trophies.
theyre not using as much time or resources when they dont have to model and texture a whole new character. and they dont have to revamp much when theyre echos like dark samus or possibly knuckles in this scenario.
if they really wanted to be cute memesters they could even spin it as "waluigi wanted to be the center of attention so bad that hes not satisfied to sit on the side lines even if hes not selected as a fighter, volunteering as an assist trophy and pokeball pokemon to maximize his time in the spotlight"
cca22f No.15310133
>>15303616
>>15303645
I'm not getting a switch but I'm betting on doomguy Bethesda was stumping for the wiiU when ea and ubishit ran away and stuck around for the switch so they got their foot in the door. Other than that wishful thinking there are plenty of places and enemies in nudoom that aren't pools of gore the game got shit for its comicbook style at first. Other than having like 4 energy weapon nudoom guy is super grabby and could always use knuckles but the starwars only guns shit maybe off now that K.rool is the first character to pull a gun out. I'm the only person who seems to have noticed this right now. I'm probably wrong but I don't care that much I'm not getting a switch so whatever.
634b27 No.15310157
>>15310133
Bayonetta has guns.
79d3fe No.15310342
>>15305707
It's honestly kind of surprising Amaterasu hasn't made it so far
99a149 No.15310352
>>15305707
Why are fan-made trailers so poorly done?
df5915 No.15310356
>>15310352
Because they're the same types of people who think Fawful should be included.
564727 No.15310575
>>15309926
They have no interest in being memesters, and this is why your shitty character never got into Smash. Because he is a meme. Sakurai knows the love for Waluigi is insincere and he's completely right. You idiots just like him for the same reason you like Shrek images or Pickle Rick. It's not because he has any depth or potential as a fighter, it's SOLELY because he's a meme. The only one interested in being memesters are you Waluigifaggots. So leave Smash out of it because we are not interested.
e3b154 No.15310936
>>15310575
>every sports and party game ever
If you told me Sakurai couldn't pull a good moveset out of all that, you'd be a damn liar.
564727 No.15311340
>>15310936
Again, all you Waluigifags ever point to is your paint-by-numbers bullshit ideas for a moveset.
>"He did this in a game at some point therefore he can do this in smash"
>"He rolls dice in Mario Party so he can throw dice in Smash"
>"He dunks basketballs in Mario Hoops so he can throw basketballs in Smash"
>"He plays soccer in Mario Strikers so he can kick soccer balls in Smash"
If anything this just demonstrates even more why he shouldn't be in Smash. Putting him in the game would literally be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
751b86 No.15311596
>>15310575
>>15311340
I'm pretty sure I've seen these exact posts before.
How is this autistic and ultimately pointless speculation still going on? It's just the same shit every few days. Can't you losers just take this to Cuckchan until there's another reveal?
e4ee1f No.15312009
>>15310575
at this point i like him because hes the new underdog that smart alecks like to put down. just as ive stood for the ridley and kroolfags before them. back in the brawl days people argued that little mac was a meme that people never cared about until they saw him in an assist trophy.
>>15311340
oh yes, if its not a problem taking moves from other games its a problem with having to make things up on the fly. isnt it a bit hypocritical of you to argue against something based on theoretical movesets?
564727 No.15312296
>>15312009
>at this point i like him because hes the new underdog that smart alecks like to put down.
Waluigi is hardly an underdog. Underdog Smash candidates don't get memes and washington post articles written about them. He's a fucking joke that overstayed his welcome.
>oh yes, if its not a problem taking moves from other games its a problem with having to make things up on the fly. isnt it a bit hypocritical of you to argue against something based on theoretical movesets?
Neither of these are the problem. The problem is that you Waluigi faggots lack a vision for a cohesive playstyle. And when anyone questions you on this you sperg out and shriek that he should be in rather than answering the fucking question. It makes me all the more glad that he won't be in for another six years and some of you dipshits will actually die of accidents or diseases before you ever see your garbage character playable in Smash.
e4ee1f No.15312332
>>15312296
why are you lying and projecting to me?
ridley never got memes? or are you going to say he was never an underdog?
nobody answers your questions? you slap down any suggestions with either of the aforementioned excuses.
you take the most foolish self defeating stances.
2da4da No.15312373
>>15312332
>Ridley never got memes?
Ridley's memes were literally because everyone was taking a single statement as gospel and he was a popular character.
>or are you going to say he was never an underdog?
He wasn't.
He was constantly sitting at the top of polls, same with King K Rool.
e4ee1f No.15312588
>>15312373
thats still memes, and memes are attention. attention is what ridley got more than everyone else combined. he was super an underdog but his popularity skyrocketed due to being a laughingstock. what that can do is get people who arent adamantly against it to consider it especially if they find it endearing or humorous.
ive been trying to find out more about those charts and heres an interesting article saying how at least one of them was made.
https://sourcegaming.info/2015/09/13/japantopdlcpt2/
nothing is official as theyve never released the results of the real ballot. but i think his way of scrying for overall popularity makes sense. look where he counts "votes" from. "posts and tweets". spawning pools and feeding grounds of internet memes.
however waluigi is never near the top of random popularity charts, despite his memes. thats the cold reality for waluigifags, even if assist trophies didnt exist.
perhaps its because the memes arent specific to smash bros.
2da4da No.15312609
>>15312588
>he was super an underdog but his popularity skyrocketed due to being a laughingstock
I don't remember that being the case, he was always one of the more wanted newcomers, him being the most prominent one is definitely a part of the recent memes however;
i doubt he would've had much more support than shit like Krystal if otherwise.
b1bbc6 No.15313452
>>15301077
>Not playing as you favorite characters
e4ee1f No.15313708
>>15313431
when viridi joins the battle, alfonzo is in charge of genocide
c8f967 No.15313771
>>15299276
>Main
Solid Snake, Ryu, and Palutena. I also really want to try out Simon
>Secondary
Ganondorf and Jigglypuff, for when I've had enough of people's shit.
>Least wanted newcomers
No one really. I'm happy with any new characters so long as they are not from Fire Emblem With the exception of Chrom since everyone wanted him or Minecraft Steve. I will fucking smash my Switch in half if Minecraft Steve somehow becomes a fighter
>Most wanted newcomers
Well I did want Ashley, but that dream is now dead. So I'm now on team Geno. It's gonna happen. If Ridley and K. Rool got in, Geno is next. Mark my words he's gonna be the last newcomer revealed.
But besides Geno, I kinda am on board the Shantae hype train. Shovel Knight got confirmed as an assist trophy, so they know we want some third party indie characters. I'm sad Shovel Knight isn't a fighter, but Shantae could be one. Out of all the ballot campaigns, none were more vocal than Team Shantae. C'mon Sakurai, make our wish come true.
Also please make Issac from Golden Sun a fighter. We need this badly.
>Most Wanted Assists
Wonder Red would be a cool trophy. I know people want him as a fighter, however I don't see how he could be one. I would also love to see Sephiroth as an assist trophy, but knowing Square and the fact WE STILL ONLY HAVE TWO SONGS FOR THE MIDGAR STAGE, that might not happen.
79d3fe No.15314044
>>15310575
>>15311340
>I hate this character and have no interest in knowing anything about him but let me tell you EXACTLY why the people that like him do, and no, it's not what they say it is
>>15312296
>you Waluigi faggots lack a vision for a cohesive playstyle
Didn't you just say that all Waluigifags do is point to "paint-by-numbers bullshit ideas"? Is that not a vision?
I for one think a sports-based moveset would be boring and he should get his unique abilities and items in-game to make an oddball moveset, and I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
I know you are just regurgitating the same arguments people always use against Waluigi, but you could at least be consistent.
>And when anyone questions you on this you sperg out and shriek that he should be in rather than answering the fucking question
Have you even talked to anyone that wants Waluigi playable for non-meme reasons or are you just projecting your autism on everyone else and throwing kneejerk shitifts?
Oh wait, nevermind, you are just going to say that meme reasons are the only ones anyone could possibly like Waluigi for, and next you are going to say that whatever moveset or potential I describe doesn't matter because he's "never been in a mainline game", "he is just Wario's tennis partner", and etc.
>It makes me all the more glad that he won't be in for another six years and some of you dipshits will actually die of accidents or diseases before you ever see your garbage character playable in Smash
And then you turn around and accuse Waluigi fans of being autistic and hostile.
eedb1c No.15314244
>>15313771
>I'm sad Shovel Knight isn't a fighter
5c7513 No.15314283
>>15313771
>I'm sad Shovel Knight isn't a fighter
He's lucky Sakurai even gave him the time of day, and even more lucky Rivals of Aether had him as a fighter. Shovel Knight's still way too new, has only one game (even if it has multiple updates, they're still third party, indie, multi console from the beginning) and thus nowhere near enough time to grow. Even then he should not be the indie rep is there is an indie rep. Only choices are Shantae and Quote/Curly. I know Cave Story has the same story as Shovel Knight but the difference is that Cave Story started the indie popularity
Only reason why I'm being so autistic about this one little phrase is because no-one should be on the Shovel Knight train. It stinks like shit and I'm pretty sure one of the patrons on board pissed in the ball pit. Your other choices are fine though.
e4ee1f No.15314383
>>15314283
shareware games were a thing way before cave story. doom was a shareware game
5c7513 No.15314511
>>15314383
Oh, Doomguy, forgot about him, he's a fine choice too. What I mean to say though is that Cave Story pretty much sparked up the popularity of indie games in the modern day for better or worse since it got people thinking, "Hey, this successful game was made by one guy, I can make vidja too!" correct me and call me a faggot if I'm wrong, I just remember Cave Story being an influential game
e4ee1f No.15314573
>>15314511
no matter what cave story is an awesome suggestion
8ac379 No.15314630
Can someone please tell me why Shovel Knight is so popular and why everyone here seems to hate him? I've never heard of that guy until I saw him in Smash Ultimate. Was he made by betafags or something?
8ac379 No.15314645
>>15313431
>Glass Joe
>strong attacks cause croissants to fly out of him
5c7513 No.15314708
>>15314630
Shovel Knight's a perfectly fine game for pirating but from what I've seen most of his popularity comes from
<MUH NES LIMITATIONS
despite it not being like that at all. It was made by ex-WayForward staff probably because there were too many tits and scantily-clad women for his liking and for some reason has crossed over with quite a few things, likely bought out by a certain someone to boost his popularity. I personally don't hate Shovel Knight, I just think he has no place in Smash when there are far better indie reps and a grand majority of his fans are dumber than the usual bunch.
eedb1c No.15314744
>>15314630
Shovel Knight is an OK platformer made by SJW devs. The titular character gets passed around like cheap whore and shows up in everything despite not being anywhere near iconic and the very thought of him making it into Smash as a fighter is infuriating because it'd be a huge slap in the face to everyone that likes Smash.
e4ee1f No.15314973
>>15314630
>secondhand /v/ knowledge:
a lot of indie games claim to go for a "retro style" but shovelman seems to put vastly more effort into looking authentic 8bit NES with liberties taken where they thought it would be more fun or charming such as color and i think sound channel limitations. i remember reading on /v/ that it was pretty accurate when it wanted to be.
popular probably because people like underdogs and hate AAA games even though they buy them all the time, so if an indie game is half decent and charming enough itll gain a decent following. underdog indie game devs make people feel empowered, reassured that the future of video games isnt as bleak as when they look at giant devils like ea games.
i know much of /v/ used to really like it so it probably has strong gameplay going for it, but as the fans moved on ire seems to have only grown as he started making cameos like it was going out of style. if that wasnt enough to piss people off perhaps they would be when the game was updated to let you pick genders(with appropriate sprites) and pronouns, just the normal 2 it is worth noting.
someone did mention that he thinks it may have delayed expansion content but that may not be entirely accurate as another anon mentioned that the differences are so subtle it may as well not have happened and that unfortunately it wasnt the bikini titty knight party that probably awaits us in the afterlife.
564727 No.15314995
>>15312332
You're the only one lying here. Ridley is a significant character, he is the most recurring antagonist in the Metroid series and the one who killed Samus's parents, and K. Rool has also always been the main antagonist of the DKC series. Both of these characters had much more going for them than a stupid bullshit meme character who was only created for the sole purpose of being Wario's doubles partner in Mario Tennis 64.
>>15314044
>>"I hate this character and have no interest in knowing anything about him but let me tell you EXACTLY why the people that like him do, and no, it's not what they say it is"
Nice strawman, shit for brains.
>Didn't you just say that all Waluigifags do is point to "paint-by-numbers bullshit ideas"? Is that not a vision?
No, it's literally not, you fucking idiot. It's just bits and fragments of his game appearances that don't ever congeal into an interesting idea for a playstyle or moveset. It's just "he can swim through the air because he does that in Mario Tennis"! It's fucking stupid and shows that you're starved for ideas on how to make him an interesting character in the context of Smash, thus proving that you just want him in for memes and nothing else. All you're doing is demonstrating that they exhausted his moveset potential with his assist trophy. There is absolutely NOTHING special about the moveset ideas you've proposed. He kicks soccer balls at you, like wow, whoopty fucking do. What makes him notable over any other sports character that can do that? The answer is fucking nothing, it's just his meme status.
>I know you are just regurgitating the same arguments people always use against Waluigi, but you could at least be consistent.
We use the same arguments because you dumb Waluigifags STILL have yet to put forth any logic to disprove them, and they're still completely valid. Waluigi is not a notable character. There is nothing special about the laughably miniscule moveset ideas you've proposed that couldn't be done by literally anybody fucking else. You just want him in because he's a meme, not because he's actually special or significant to Nintendo in any way.
>Have you even talked to anyone that wants Waluigi playable for non-meme reasons
No, because these people don't exist. As you just demonstrated with your autistic and completely fucking retarded reasoning.
>And then you turn around and accuse Waluigi fans of being autistic and hostile.
You mad, faggot? The more you act like this the more glad it makes me that some of you shitheads won't survive to the next Smash game.
e4ee1f No.15315213
>>15314995
it speaks volumes of your character when you use the same arguments that were used against you in previous threads for a character you dont like, down to the made up buzzwords.
7e1cdb No.15315549
I always felt that the Mario representation was perfect in Brawl, especially if you group DK, Yoshi and Wario with it despite them repping their own series. Anything after that was just a bonus and the additions that did come later I feel were not necessary but fine (Rosalina, Bowser Jr./Koopalings, Daisy). But like with Fire Emblem, I always felt that Mario and Pokemon also were over represented even though they are the biggest franchises.
The issue with Waluigi is that his entire shtick as a character is already done by Wario but better. So I can see why he keeps missing out. He also doesn't have the luxury of easily being made an echo fighter like Daisy. If it's any consolation, since Daisy is an echo fighter and likely will be forever stuck there Waluigi is the only character that can represent the spin off games now in his moveset.
I can't really care for any other Mario character appearing in this game anymore since I feel it has so much already.
b0e2a3 No.15315658
All I want is Hollow Knight.
>Obscure but recognizable
>Fits the aesthetic
>Add in the pogo-esque mechanic where down-striking an enemy doesn't meteor-strike them but bounces you up
>SOUL meter allows for strategic play with powerful B moves that need it to work
>Tap B for powerful projectile, hold it for a heal, Down B in air slams, on the ground it uses Cyclone slash, Up B is Hornet's needle, Left/right B is the dash - no damage but decent range for recovery, hold for Super Dash if grounded
>A moves are sword attacks, smashes are the other Nail Techniques or special charm attacks
>Final Smash summons Cloth, Quill, and Hornet to fuck up an opponent with a final attack from the Knight
>Taunt is The Challenge pose from the Mantis Lord boss
79d3fe No.15318208
>>15314995
How rich for you of all people to complain about strawmen.
>No, it's literally not, you fucking idiot. It's just bits and fragments of his game appearances that don't ever congeal into an interesting idea for a playstyle or moveset.
Didn't you said it had be a "cohesive" idea? Because your idea that all Waluigifags have the exact same play style ideas built on sports items is cohesive whether you like it or not. A cohesive idea isn't the same as an idea you find interesting, which is really what your entire argument hinges on, that you don't think Waluigi can do anything interesting and therefore no one could possibly think opposite.
>All you're doing is demonstrating that they exhausted his moveset potential with his assist trophy. There is absolutely NOTHING special about the moveset ideas you've proposed.
I didn't propose shit. Remove your head from your sphincter for a second and actually read the conversation here.
There are a myriad of ideas that could be proposed for a Waluigi moveset that don't involve soccer balls or red shells. I wouldn't want to play a Waluigi whose moveset just consisted of pulling sports items. That'd just be boring.
I would want to play a Waluigi with a wacky, confusing play style that takes skill to learn and might even look ineffective but pays off.
A Waluigi who pulls all the weird abilities and items he's been given or associated with in those games. Air swims, teleports, purple thorns, mustachioed missiles, rotten eggplants, tornadoes, dance moves and rhythm based attacks. Have him pull giant pinballs, robots, the Liar Ball, piranha plants
Have him reference the Wrecking Crew games again. Have him incorporate spin-off gameplay mechanics and not just items.
Have him play off Wario or Luigi's play style. Have him do weird contortionist moves and comedic attacks. Have him be a deceptively powerful joke character.
Have him outright cheat the rules of the game with mechanics unique to him that make him a pain in the ass to learn and an even bigger pain to fight if used well.
Hell, even if none of these were a thing and Waluigi had absolutely no powers, abilities, and character of his own, it wouldn't prevent the Smash devs from just creating shit on the spot to make him viable, as they have with several other characters.
Moveset potential is the least of Waluigi's problems and it's arguably the only thing he's got that actually warrants his inclusion.
>ou dumb Waluigifags STILL have yet to put forth any logic to disprove them, and they're still completely valid.
It fundamentally doesn't matter whether or not I put any arguments because you are not ever going to consider them.
I could point out that being "special or significant to Nintendo" has never been an issue for character inclusion, especially now that third parties and character not created by Nintendo (like K.Rool) are all over the place. It doesn't matter if I hand you 10 unique Waluigi movesets and play styles that could be used only by him and no one else, or if I go on about how the argument that he has no character (which isn't true) and no game and thus couldn't be in is demonstrably false starting by Luigi's own example.
You are just going to go back to calling him a meme and that will be the end of it.
8ac379 No.15318289
>>15314708
>It was made by ex-WayForward staff probably because there were too many tits and scantily-clad women for his liking
Wait seriously? Has he said this? That's pretty faggy of him to leave a company because of sexiness.
5c7513 No.15318319
>>15318289
Nah, I don't think he has, I just said that's probably the reason as a half-joke. I wouldn't be shocked one bit if I was somehow right, though.
4f0d25 No.15318744
Here’s my taste on what we have now
8ac379 No.15318859
>>15318744
Separating Samus from 0S Samus and Sheik from Zelda was a mistake.
4f0d25 No.15319273
>>15318859
The way ZSS and Samus we’re tigether wasnt good either. Still has the same issues and forces a complete character switch based on a FS