/v/ - Video Games

Can I say I am glad dota is dying since fuck that game and fuck the addictin I had for it

I'm STEAMED about this!

Thinking normalfags care at all about such issues is blatantly retarded. It's probably something involving bots, China, or alternative services taking off.

They probably realized that video games are a waste of time and moved onward to a valid artform.

>>15296560

they will be back as soon next big pile of shit come out

>>15296542

How do you survive being impaled?

Half Life 3 would'e fixed this.

>>15296620

In case anyone is curious about LoL still beating Dota, it seems like things are getting Rocky with Riot (I'm not making another thread for another shitty assfaggot game let alone an assfaggot game full of Sjw shit), and the Riot-Tencent Gestapo had to do some damage control once the article got published on some EESPORZ site.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180814040130/https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/riot-strained-relationship-tencent-declining-players-mobile-games-information-32079

>The interesting parts, however, are the details about Riot's declining playerbase and Tencent's own pursuit of mobile gaming, which have caused both companies to butt heads more than once in the past.

>When mobile gaming began to overtake "hardcore" gaming, Tencent apparently approached Riot about turning its only game, League of Legends, into a mobile title. Riot declined, saying that the game's experience "couldn't be replicated on smartphones." Tencent then reportedly created their own mobile game, Wangzhe Rongyao, roughly translated to English as Honor of Kings, in 2015. When Riot discovered early screenshots of the game, which has now arrived in North America as Arena of Valor, some employees weren't happy. "We were stunned," one of the former Riot staffers that The Information interviewed said. "They were blatantly ripping off our intellectual property."

>On top of that, The Information reports that Tencent has moved on to PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds and Fortnite, focusing its efforts now on the stock owned in both games' developers, Bluehole and Epic Games respectively. The sudden shift is due to a rapid decline in League's playerbase and profits, which has resulted in significant layoffs at Riot's worldwide offices. When The Information approached CEO Laurent about these declines, he stated that they haven't actually been that significant. This was despite former and current employees telling The Information that Riot leadership held a massive, company-wide meeting in March to inform workers that the company would reach a deficit if they continued on the current path.

Here's the damage control from the Riot-Tencent Gestapo:

>"League numbers are down from their peak, but it's still one of the most-played games in the world and we're very happy with the numbers, and we think some of the new content we're putting out soon can only help with player numbers," Riot said. "Basically, League is doing incredibly well by any measure except its own very high watermark. "

Riot deserve worse for all the shit they've done.

>>15296551

They don't care because normal fags will move on if they have Steam, or even flat out refuse to give out their personal info just to buy a game nowadays. You also have GoG (which isn't much better, but they don't mandate you to give out your number like Gaben and Steam…yet).

>>15296560

Sjws don't give up like that if that's who you meant (Look at them trying to cling onto tabletops, new outlets, tv, and comic books). They're trying to control Steam.

>>15296594

No it wouldn't. It would be ruined by the Sjws who will probably get hired onto the development team, or it's given to some shitty company like Gearbox or some Eurocuck company like the one making the new Larry game.

>>15296637

Heh. Happy to hear LoL is bleeding. I dropped that game ages ago after they started banning for mean words.

>>15296542

so, what's the cause of the decline? competition from other market places?

>>15296657

>>15296546

We have traded ASSSFAGGOTS for battle royale games

Is this the best timeline?

>>15296670

>try to troll

>fail miserably

>wah muh SJW police

>200+ hours in some shitty grindan to begin with

Seriously nigga?

>>15296688

Every game's devs/pubs assign its own moderators to its forums.

It's not steam policing reviews and discussions.

Steam doesn't police shit anymore what so ever since anime boobs fiasco.

>>15296663

Forgot to add that Gaben killing trading with his greed also put a dent on Steam because the only things you can really trade now are shitty cards; and certain countries got the middle finger with the Steam lootbox-like stuff (that or certain countries told Steam to fuck off with the lootbox changes. I could be wrong on this).

>>15296700

>that or certain countries told Steam to fuck off with the lootbox changes. I could be wrong on this).

probably that. I remember one thread about some country outright banning them as a form of gambling, don't remember which one.

>>15296688

>It got much, much worse when they ruined a lot of champions like Akali, Aatrox, and Taric. Mordekaiser players are still miserable.

Hard champs to ruin. They must have really worked to drive a stake through those ones. Did they nuke leblanc, who was basically akali 2.0 back in the day?

>>15296710

It's definitely a form of gambling. It's on the level of pachinko parlors operations, the excuse of it being just for entertainment, when the metal balls are used as currency to obtain prizes, which are then given to a small store outside for money. The way lootboxes function is basically as shady as that, and just as shit since this is getting kids hooked on gambling at a young age.

>>15296709

>>15296700

>pozzed this pozzed that

>locking down illegal activities is somehow bad

I don't comprehend.

>>15296679

>fail miserably

The entire GAY community loved that post you can tell right there from the stats.

That's just one example too, there are plenty of others, you must have missed the thread

Honestly I only sign into steam because Binding of Eyesack: Edmund is a retard and put balance patches in a single player game and got butthurt that people didn't wait 10 years to unlock the game's Melting character and Team Fortress 2. Shit I got all platinums on crack Bandicoot and there's no mods for it yet so I have even less of a reason to use it.

>>15296723

It's okay when valve does it themselves, but modify their ToS when they find out others use their trading system to gamble.

>>15296637

>they were blatantly ripping off our intellectual property

oh that's really funny coming from riot

seriously thought what did they expect tencent is chinese

>>15296671

>Traded ASSFAGGOTS for BR bullshit

Would you blame me if I said I honestly preferred the previous? Maybe my hatred for BR games is just an inkling higher than that of ASSFAGGOTS as both are uncreative fuck piles of good-goy style micropay development but ASSFAGGOTS at least forced normalfags to try and use their brain a little.

>>15296767

Fallout 76 is going to bomb Todd, your attempts to control the narrative are plain to see. The reason you don't want it on steam is to avoid having to give refunds.

Hopefully they get spread around many alternatives (preferably with stances against DRM and censorship), fuck the centralization of the digital market

>>15296664

Since we'll probably never get a straight answer out of anyone I would have to guess that the Chinese are getting bored of the platform and are jumping onto the latest non-Steam Tencent fad game. Or maybe boredom with the platform in general. It's a DRM platform first and foremost and only exists to serve as an intermediary between you and your games. Which probably means people aren't playing as many games as they used to.

>>15296842

More poz games == less consumers

See examples in other industries,

>Comics

>Movies

>Music

So it's a natural market reaction to poz.Siege will start with the same decline thanks to the poz they've put into their game.

>>15296670

iirc developers moderate their own shit, that isn't a valve employee it's one of the swedes that made the game.

>>15296859

Not even an employee of anyone. Steam mods are community members, that do it for free.

>>15296761

>installs kernel mods for anti-cheat?

PUBG does the same, both use BattleEye

>>15296637

damn i hope lol dies soon. the piece of shit ruined esports and turned it into some sterilized no fun allowed bullshit. what's great about it is that they brought this upon themselves. i'm sure they weren't complaining when the chinks bought them out for billions. serves these faggots right for selling out to the yellow jew

>>15297006

The day games are delivered mostly by streaming is the day I go fuck it all to hell, punch my boss in the face, kick my fat wife in the muff, burn down the local furry bar, spend all my savings on generic bourbon, steal my old man's Atari Jaguar and play myself some fucking Cybermop while I drink myself to death.

You could have just posted the fucking story, but instead you get that stupid "anyone who has anything that isn't anti-Steam to say is obviously reddit, neogaf, goons and sjws" as if that last one makes any fucking sense. They give administration for game pages to the publishers of said games, but otherwise, Steam has been one of the most hands off publishers of content in vidya, allowing just about fucking anything because they want the medium to mature.

You don't see games like House Party, Hunie Pop or Nekopara on any other fucking platform, do you? Gee, you're right OP that's real SJW leftism right there, it's almost like they don't care about rainbow haired faggots decrying sexualization.

>>15297052

Hi Gabe.

>>15296888

What the fuck is wrong with physical copies you faggot?

Digital copies have no value whatsoever (and if its connected to a client/service, no control) physical copies you also have control over your games unless it requires internet connection to a service in which case its no different from a steam code in a box which might as well not even be physical media

Digital downloads are not a "fantastic idea on paper" whatsoever except in terms of convenience and considering all the baggage that came with it I would say "no thanks" to that garbage

Valve has already irreparably damaged things beyond repair, now companies know to get their own clients and services and retain as much control over their customers as possible through DRM and other measures; they've also fostered a massive community of retards who worship them and will follow and defend them to the death no matter what, the fact that it took this long with so many companies now trying to get a piece of the market and Valve is only now starting to feel a little bit of pressure on its decline is ridiculous

rest assured Valve will live for a long, long time; they've built up too much influence by brainwashing redditors to do the most powerful type of advertising (word of mouth) for them

>>15297052

>House Party

>HuniePop

>Nekopara

You mean games they tried to censor and then got backlashed so hard they were forced to backkpedal?

Truly hands-off, what benevolent dictators Valve is!

>>15297006

Cloud gaming services aren't just something they're *talking about* there are companies who are doing this. They say that the next consoles might *just* be cloud gaming boxes, and of course, because it's right there in the forefront of gaming, PCs will be there too.

There's advantages to this, I suppose, the idea that you can play pretty much any new game because it's not your PC processing/running it, but then thing slike graphics levels go away because it becomes a one size fits all approach, and the only option you get is whatever resolution your monitor is. I don't want that, and I know that pretty much no one else here does either, but this is what they're going to sell to the normalfags, and they're going to love it. Because "who cares about piracy, hurr durr."

>>15297072

Part of me hopes that these companies keeps being hyper-jewish like EA, Sony and Blizzard are doing by banning people from their networks for shit like offensive usernames and other retarded bullshit, just so that people learn the hard way

but some extremely pessimistic part of me says that even that shit won't teach them anything; they'll just go back to the same platform, buy their games again and beg for the company's forgiveness instead of kicking them to the curb, getting some taste and playing fun games

>>15296889

tbh those aren't engineers, engineers don't spend their time pointing at finished stuff.

>>15297072

But the thing is, there's nothing wrong with Steam having everything. There's no exclusivity, and calling it a monopoly (because that word gets thrown around a lot) is fucking retarded. Steam tells you to publish your game everywhere, if companies choose not to, that's on them. Conversely, withdrawing your games from Steam to create YET ANOTHER fucking platform that no one wants to use, that's how we ended up with Uplay, Origin and the Wangblows Store. What are their reasonings? Money is definitely one, they see that 30% cut as unacceptable, and they think Steam is ineffectual as an anti-piracy measurement .. and they're right, but that was always the idea. Steam allowing extra DRM is part of the problem. Denuvo doesn't even delay pirates anymore, they eat through that shit like mice through Swiss cheese, there are people who legitimately believe you can make crackproof programs, and that's stupid. Give a cracker a Fort Knox of anti-piracy and watch him destroy it.

>>15297084

Denuvo very much delays the pirates by a long margin. The only cracker that was able to spoof denuvo was doing it in a dirty way, not actually removing it and then he got caught anyway. Therefore, pirates are not able to remove denuvo but work around it. With a few more concepts, denuvo could be the ultimate anti-piracy measure. Besides, denuvo games hardly get cracked nowadays.

>>15297077

Sorry for raging, I'm just very pissed with the quickening death of physical media; the fact that there are fucking games out there that are just boxes with Steam codes inside them makes me want to murder some execs

>consumer protection

Don't make me laugh faggot, there are people right now who believe that companies have the right to screw you as much as you want after seizing as much power as they possibly can in a market and you have no recourse but to flounder and just "deal with it, whiner" or else you're a communist or something

Look at this faggot for an example of the type of cancer that exists

>>15297084

>there's nothing wrong with Steam having everything.

> There's no exclusivity, and calling it a monopoly (because that word gets thrown around a lot) is fucking retarded.

<There's nothing wrong with a new vidya world order where Steam is the central authority, they would be benevolent dictators!

<there wouldn't be a thing like exclusivity if Steam is the sole provider of all your games

I don't even know what to say in the face of such utter retardation

>Denuvo doesn't even delay pirates anymore, they eat through that shit like mice through Swiss cheese

You realize that a very prominent denuvo cracker just got v& by the hungarian police? And Denuvo will be ramping up their efforts; there were only a few people cracking denuvo as it was (CPY, Baldman, Voksi), one of those is retired and one is now legally unable to do anything now. They aren't impenetrable but they will delay pirates enough to where the companies will be fine with the results and this will only continue as companies ramp up Denuvo usage and throw increasing amounts more money at them

Squeenix, Sega and Bamco can keep Denuvo in the black for years to come as it is

>>15297101

and also being DRM isn't the only problem with Denuvo; it also hampers performance and strangles modding capabilities in most games its implemented in

modding might be possible and you might see a few things sure but overall its far less than one would see in a game without it

>>15297101

>Don't make me laugh faggot, there are people right now who believe that companies have the right to screw you as much as you want after seizing as much power as they possibly can in a market and you have no recourse but to flounder and just "deal with it, whiner" or else you're a communist or something

That is exactly the thing I am raging about. Jews taking a possibly great technology and turning it into a fucking anti-consumer monster. The point you just made is why I think physical is still the best bet if your getting yourself a new game. No argument here.

>>15297101

>>15297100

Denuvo finally fucking killed video game piracy forever and there's nothing we can do about it. Soon all video games will be pozzed with an uncrackable Denuvo, as the last speck of ownership dies once and for all as cloud gaming rains supreme.

They fucking won. It's over for us.

>>15297100

Press F to pay respects for vidya piracy of any form.

>>15297122

I can't tell if you're shitposting or you were that hyper-blackpilled faggot from some other thread, you type like him

>>15296700

>Forgot to add that Gaben killing trading with his greed also put a dent on Steam

What Valve did with the steam market was the opposite of greed. By killing skin trading the prices of skins plummeted, and basic economics would tell you that key sales would plummet as well as their prices are fixed. Valve was pretty much forced to regulate skin trading, or else governments would have stepped in and regulated it themselves

>>15296670

Retard. Explain this game then.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/638160/

>>15296542

>Steam is enforcing leftist, militant-sjw censorship and shit

Did I miss something?

I tought they reeled back on VNs and allow now everything short of CP?

>>15297122

>>15297128

The ones using Denuvo are usually major pozzed companies anyway. There are a few that are specifically anti-DRM with very popular games.

>>15297084

>But the thing is, there's nothing wrong with Steam having everything.

I remember telling a couple of mustard race fags to fuck off with that retarded shit. It's like you want japanese devs to cater directly to the Western market with the political bullshit going on

>There's no exclusivity, and calling it a monopoly (because that word gets thrown around a lot) is fucking retarded.

But it's actually a near-monopoly though. GoG used to act like a small competitor, until it stopped caring about old vidya and went Steam-lite with Galaxy (which is mostly optional, except for a few games using online multiplayer) and the (((indies)))/early access shit. You might be able to buy off Steam technically, but all they (Humble Bundle, Amazon, etc) give you in the end are Steam keys for your Steam account.

Doesnt help that shitload of people have a severe Stockholm syndrome towards Steam, because of the convenience it seems to give to them, and would backstab any alternative solution.

Steam having a near-monopoly over the PC platform, gog stopping to be "Good Old Games", and me having a rather low trust towards the piracy scene (ruskie uploaders and reports of bitcoin-injected executables) made me drop PC gaymin tbh. Upgrading PC parts is no longer even worth it with the forced Windblows 10 shit

>>15297101

>>15297144

>The ones using Denuvo are usually all companies

FTFY. Denuvo is going to become nigh uncrackable in due time, and there's nothing you can do about it. Coupled with the fact that ROMs of all old games will definitively disappear forever soon, we will have bo choice but to stream everything from the cloud.

>>15297149

Keep trying blackpill shill. Ill be sharing my roms till I die faggot.

>>15297155

>Nothing is Uncrackable

See >>15297100

>>15297161

Im wasnt talking to you

>>15297146

What the fuck are you talking about, GOG has more old games than ever you fucking goof. The thing is, GOG has a real problem which is that faggots post their installers to torrent sites day 1 every single time, without exception. Companies that make modern games see this, and this is why they don't want to publish with GOG. Why the fuck would they? GOG Galaxy is a nice app, it detects pirated copies of GOG games, doesn't disable them, just says "hey, we don't know if you have a license for this, but we assume you or someone else using this computer does…" Also won't update because you need a license to qualify for that.

You can say til the cows come home that piracy does not affect sales, but that is not 100% true, and it never has been, and it never will be. There are people who choose not to pay because they don't have to, not because they can't. The idea that "it's not a lost sale, cause they wouldn't pay if they couldn't get it for free anyway" only applies to SOME level of people but not every single pirate.

There's a reason why GOG has such a huge catalog of old games, and that's because they're dead. No one else is selling them, so they post em for cheap and people can buy em for cheap. No one cares about them because they aren't worked on anymore, no one was relying on the money they generate, if they generate $50 that's good enough.

You ain't gonna see a new AAA game on Steam because of the GOG installers. You can't tell a small developer that piracy doesn't cause lost sales when he can load up TPB, look at say Terraria 1.3.5.3 and see that 10 people are downloading it this very second. For a 228 mb game, that means that there are constantly people downloading it, cause even shitty BR internet can download that in less than 5 minutes.

You can't prove the kikes wrong when there's overwhelming evidence to make them look right. Denuvo is the fault of smug arseholes who used to say "day 1 pirate" all day every day.

>>15297107

Its true.

I wish letting customers have control over their own fucking games wasn't such anathema to these companies but they need to do everything in their power to reduce consumer power because of how scary it is for them to deal with

>>15297146

GoG being about old games didn't make it a competitor to Steam at all, it served a different niche and market entirely

Them slowly turning into Steam-lite is what made them a "competitor" to Steam to begin with if we're being honest; as long as they remain DRM-free and don't censor I'm fine with them

Galaxy is a bit of a worrying trend though. To an extent I can sort of understand why it would be used for multiplayer shit, its a lot easier for GoG to put everything through that shit to their servers and whatnot and since they're handling the multiplayer (I think) it makes sense

Doesn't make it right though since it is multiplayer DRM, but its hard for me to shit on them if they're providing their servers to use for it through Galaxy and making it as easy as possible; plus creating multiplayer peer-to-peer code would be pretty much impossible for all the games present (especially with how many of the companies are defunct in question), or at the very least grossly economically unfeasible

>>15296865

I can't imagine the kind of person who would willingly read the steam forums let alone mod them.

>>15297160

>not knowing that the cracking scene works on challenge basis

>thinking that shit games don't get cracked

They don't get cracked because nobody has been up to the task of cracking them. Scene cracks everything, provided they can, not because they play games but because they want to test their computer skills.

>>15297179

Exactly. Nobody is here to crack Denuvo anymore. The kikes won.

>>15297179

Thing is, the more games you crack, the more you make publishers want to put Denuvo in their games. Contempt breeds contempt.

>>15297183

Nigger, I'm gonna be playing Yakuza for free by the end of the month, and there's jack shit you can do about it.

>>15297149

>ROMs of all old games will definitively disappear forever soon

Every single NES + every SNES game combined is under 3GB. You're either trolling or retarded

>>15297187

This.

It's much more likely that it's the early disc based stuff that will be lost to history.

>>15297100

> The only cracker that was able to spoof denuvo was doing it in a dirty way, not actually removing it and then he got caught anyway

My nigga voksi knew he was going to get caught, so he put out as much information as he could on how he went about cracking games out into the public domain. He even made a youtube tutorial on how to crack denuvo https://torrentfreak.com/voksi-releases-detailed-denuvo-cracking-video-tutorial-180210/

Some guy will take up the cracking mantle and fill the void left by voksi I guarantee you it

>>15297186

>Nigger, I'm gonna be playing Yakuza for free by the end of the month

Not when there's nobody to crack it kid.

>>15297187

I can see where he gets the idea from, Nintendo is actively going after emulation sites with an aggression unheard of before. Emulation sites today, emulators tomorrow, torrent sites the day after. They have the money to do it, it's not a matter of if, but when. And look at torrent sites, how many torrent sites are there now? Used to be able to list off dozens of places to find shit, now I have hardly any resources. Basically I have 3 torrent sites, and if I don't find them there, I have to shrug and say "guess I'm fucked." And it's becoming a worse and worse problem. And instead of doing anything, Americans (the source of all of this bullshit) just sit on their hands like it's everyone else's job to do something about it.

>>15297197

Now watch as denialfags scramble to find a counterpoint to this, knowing deep down that vidya piracy is officially dying and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

>>15297201

TPB, Monova and an unnamed torrent site

>>15297208

The thing I don't get about this fervor is, Nintendo's not even monetizing most of these things, and yet they still see "none is too many" as their policy. And the fucking damages they're requesting, they're suing people for what seems like BILLIONS of dollars. Each download is equated to be worth more than what these games cost to be made, and they do it on a per-game+per-download basis at exorbitant prices, and I don't see how ANY judge can abide this without being paid under the table.

If Bubble Bobble was $60 at launch, charge $60 per download maybe, but no, they want $150,000…

>>15297191

Even every PS2 game released is only just over 2TB, I'd bet there are plenty of datahoarders out there who have full copies of those. Where you start running into trouble is the sweet spot where HDD storage isn't cheap enough to justify hoarding the games. For example some PS3 games are 50+GB, too big for the average person to grab the entire collection. Eventually storage will get cheaper and you will be able to download a pack of every PS3 game ever, but there will always be a ~15 year gap before disk storage technology advances enough where you can justify an entire generation of games without thinking too much about it. Those are the only games that are vulnerable to copyright pressure I think

>>15297221

I'd always like more, the thing is, I don't like them being posted because we know the wrong elements are watching these fucking threads. Too many people talked about BlackCat and then they restructured, banned all the accounts created within the last 6 months, and went private as a means to protect against DMCA/v&. And then you look at what happened to the original Megaupload, and it's like .. I feel worried for these sites when they get posted in places that people are watching.

>>15297197

thepiratebay.org is still around m8, file sharing will never die

>>15297225

>single photo from /k/ even

>clipboardimage.png

wew lad

>>15297078

Don't call it pessimistic.

The last few years have shown time and time again that even if a vidya company spitsin their customers face, they'll beg for more.

It's realistic to expect that "gamers" will put up with anything even if they get fucked over time and time again.

>>15297244

You do remember that even TPB the once vaunted "last bastion" of piracy was v&d, right? It only got put back up within the last while, and there are so many unsourced torrents now, not to mention it's all magnet links. You can try to download some things and never get a single source, if I had to estimate, I'd say 83% of TPB's files from before the raid are pretty much dead.

>>15297244

The more humans fuck, the less freedom we get to enjoy. It will die someday, my friend.

>>15297260

The raid was like a decade ago, shit is still kicking and almost everything is seeded if you have your client configured correctly and bootstrapped into the DHT. Also magnets 1000% the way to go for a modern torrent site, that is not a negative

>>15297163

>You can say til the cows come home that piracy does not affect sales, but that is not 100% true, and it never has been, and it never will be

You're right.

Looking at the music industry piracy helped establish mp3 and even helped them making more money in the end. And oh vey, the same fucking shit happens with vidya, time and time again.

Good guy piracy.

>>15297271

THIS!

This is what autists are in complete denial of. There will inevitably come a time where all of our freedoms collapse forever. It is at that point that we can kiss file sharing communities goodbye forever. Many ITT will agree with this notion, only further pushing the nail in the coffin of piracy. It's over. They won.

>>15297296

No, that's why he created this thread, to shit on Steam and gloat because he thinks this is inherently a good thing.

>>15297163

>The thing is, GOG has a real problem which is that faggots post their installers to torrent sites day 1 every single time, without exception. Companies that make modern games see this, and this is why they don't want to publish with GOG.

I'm 100% sure that devs & publishers prefer Steam because

>Steam has a gigantic presence and influence in the PC platform, that not even small-time devs can ignore it

>Steam providing a minimal DRM protection (even if it'll get cracked in no time, unless Denuvo is involved)

Also I'm not saying GoG still doesnt have its older catalog of old shit, but it's clear that they shifted their marketing appeal and niche audience when you see most of the newer releases on their store.

>>15297167

>GoG being about old games didn't make it a competitor to Steam at all, it served a different niche and market entirely. Them slowly turning into Steam-lite is what made them a "competitor" to Steam to begin with if we're being honest

You're absolutely right, I got confused for a moment

>>15297194

>to the contrary where if steam goes anticonsumer or dies your library is at the whim of Valve and whether or not they'll put out a crack so that you can run the installer files without being connected

I remember hearing that claim many years ago, back when Steam was way smaller shit, but I very highly doubt Valve will ever be that generous to provide free access to the games you rented

>>15297304

>No they didn't,

Maybe you missed out on the part where people were pointing out the fact that the piracy scene has been on a steep decline as of late and the recent crackdown on emulation is just another nail in the coffin.

>>15297301

>he created this thread to shit on Steam and gloat because he thinks this is inherently a good thing

so he does care

>>15296542

> It's not like Steam is enforcing leftist, militant-sjw censorship and shit

They aren't. They are allowing anything on the store. Please tell me when or how they have been militant SJWs.

It's dropping because PUBG was a bubble and that game is dropping players like flies since Chinks (50% of the audience for that game) can play the game for free on their phone now. Fortnite was also a double whammy since that game is fucking huge, and again, free.

>>15297321

I guess if that's how you want to interpret that.

>>15297310

Valve's user base can drop off 50%, and they're still not going to go under. They could be having homosexual Australian orgies all day every day and paying people to do it, but they're not paying for super expensive shit anymore. Even if you constantly download, uninstall and redownload the same games all day every day it's not going to hurt their bottom line. Steam earned approximately $4,300,000,000 in 2017. That's THEIR CUT of sales (so the actual sales were closer to $30 billion). They employ 360 people (as of 2016).

Even if their user numbers dropped by a large amount, it's never going to fully drop off. They don't need a worst case scenario exit strategy to make all games 100% available to their users in that type of a situation, that was never feasibly going to happen. Even if Gabe had actually intended (or never intended) on this being an eventuality, it won't come to happen within our lifetimes.

>>15297331

>Please tell me when or how they have been militant SJWs.

Dont you remember the crackdown scarce on japanese visual novels a few months ago? There are still some VNs still left banned in the store. Valve even made a public announcement about not worrying about censorship since they'll only ban games that are considered "illegal" or "trolling" (without giving a proper definition of what constitute them as such)

VNs on Steam were a huge fucking mistake anyway. It created a boom of garbage western VNs and normalfags got exposed to the genre

>>15296670

Chances are that review got taken down because a billion people flagged it which made Steam automate a ban, or some faggot who has Steam mod privileges got butthurt about it. As another pointed out, Steam mods are volunteers.

>>15297329

>I am still waiting for a list or any sources of games that are uncrackable/piracy on steep decline.

Denuvo is rarely uncrackable but it usually holds off the scene releases by a month or two, which means it fulfills it's goal. A full list of Denuvo games is on crackwatch.com

>>15297370

You're not very subtle, but I give you a 7 for effort.

No idea what you were thinking. I don't go away. You can ban evade me all day but (I) am /v/. That will never change with your wheeling about. Coming down like a big brother you never had.

Attempt it, I've already become stronger.

>>15297391

According to Bloomberg, you're right, according to Trump himself, he's worth over $10b. I dunno.

>>15297379

>>15297379

subtle about what?

I loved dota, i still do, as in the actual game and concept in itself. I just hate what Valve has done with the game and the direction theyve taken the community. They have hung their own noose.

>>15297399

If you think Dota is the most satisfying pvp gaming experience legitimately then there's something wrong with your head. Shit's fucking boring as hell.

>>15297364

VNs are garbage by definition.

>>15297362

What other way is there?I don't use steam so i don't care about anything steam related let alone it's numbers which i'm sure are all very interesting to some stock holder but i don't see what use are they to the average retard that is using it to play videogames on;this would be like anyone else except the BO or Ron giving a shit about board metrics.

>>15297402

you were probably just not good dude. Raping the enemy team through strategic maneuvers, come backs, godlike sprees, enemy salt, juking, outplaying enemies in the woods and fog…i could go on and on. But for me, personally, i dont think any other gaming experience could ever replicate the pleasure i received from absolutely crushing the soul of the enemy team with my mid Tinker.

>>15297364

I'm glad that VNs were removed since they're all fucking shit. If I recall correctly the reasons they removed 2 VNs (all I could find) is because they thought one could be for pedos and the other was basically porn. Also, those two non-games were removed in may, Valve announced in June that they will allow essentially anything on Steam.

>>15297391

>So anons not being able to play a game a month after release is Denuvos goal? I am fucking out of it but I thought its goal was so a game could never be pirated and played.

Anons are a tiny minority that do not matter at all. Believe it or not, but yes. Some people that cannot wait for a crack may decide to buy it instead. If it is financially viable or worth it, I don't know, but to an extent it does work.

>>15297402

Dota as a game is was great. The problem comes from matchmaking with randoms.

>>15296542

>24 mil

That can't be it. That is pocket money.

>>15297422

What is this supposed to tell me, Mark? That you will lose friends?

>>15297405

>VNs are garbage by definition.

The main issue with Visual Novels is the oversatured market of the genre, so it's pretty easy to find out a lot of VNs are garbage by default. Consoles (especially handhelds, and I consider those to be a better platform to read VNs) filter out most of the crap, so it's easier to find the actual good stuff there.

Dont go on the expectation that they're big literature works. They're not. They're still entertaining enough with various degrees of user input

All I am seeing in the /v/ Steam group will falter in time. Who is meant to care?

This Steam thread is precious for some reason. Must be namefags. You always have 4AM or reddit.

You can all go to dlscord and leave /v/ alone. There's always that.

Who am I kidding? You're all likely already there.

>>15297452

>normalfags

>actually reading VNs

Maybe the most known and entry-level franchises like Steins;Gate or Ace Attorney, but then again I even doubt this considering the rather short-attention span mentality I've been encountering in plenty of unrelated situations.

VNs are pretty good material to test your moonrunes level too. I prefer handhelds for VNs because I can read those whenever/wherever I want, and they have exclusive content too

>>15297481

VNs are the most normalfag shit on the planet, females eat it up.

You act like Ace Attorney onloin isn't cancer too. Please, mention something not revolting.

>>15297417

>mid tinker

Now that is a form of pure evil. His R is absolute bullshit. Nothing quite as horrible as being eternally sheep-sticked and getting blasted with dagon over and over again with no escape possible besides Tinker's limited mana pool.

Harboring VN threads is humoring femanons and traps. You can always go back.

>>15297505

You post like a faggot

>>15297508

You whinge like a bitch. Go be /meta/ in your /meta jackholes while anons are being anons

Who are you fooling? There is a reason it all goes to cytube and not your horrendous cancer of namefaggotry.

I am already ready to watch you piss and moan about cytube, you worthless ingrate.

What the fuck's with all these bot posts all the sudden?

You ask your namefags who I am.

>>15297535

That's not a Bulldozer, that's Killdozer.

>>15297543

let da man dream

>>15297561

You little shit. I have not seen a GG thread since 2015 and I know you are a roofucker.

>>15297566

what

Are you autistic?

>>15297578

Artistic. What are you fastslow?

>>15297197

>And look at torrent sites, how many torrent sites are there now?

What is dying is casual piracy, there are still plenty of private trackers around but they're all invite-only, require vetting (imagine having to do a fucking interview to pirate shit) and enforce ratio pretty stricly forcing you to DL Battlefield 1944: Turns out the Red Army was Zoophilic Negro Trannies just to keep up and not have your account purged.

Likewise sites that provide OCH links have people only use the scummies, slowest hosters not covered by package sellers like Premiumize.Me so they can get that sweet, sweet commission money from referral links.

>>15297594

Markov chain bot.

It probably has something to do with Fortnite not being on the platform

>>15297594

>>15297609

You have lost your tops. I am not your friend. Strange, isn't? You won't get me to show my colors.

>>15297122

A solid 98%+ of all games released are shit anyway quit whining.

>>15297183

What makes you think there's not a raft of people doing it? You pin all your hopes on one nigger doing the job then you deserve worse than getting nothing.

everyone from china move off of steam

GOOD , FUCK THEM AND THEIR HACKS !

>>15297679

It literally is. It's on par with Chess in terms of strategy, except it's harder because you have to coordinate with 4 other people.

Or at least it was, before 7.0

>>15296548

fuck it anon, this made me laugh, well done

>>15297709

>hurrrr it's a game i don't like so i will act like an autist about it

>>>/cuckchan/

dota would be good if you could actually play with a group of other people on the regular. playing a team based game with complete fucking strangers is the most retarded shit ever.

>>15297439

No, VNs are shit. By definition. Garbage non-games. Just e-books with pictures and a melody.

>>15297815

You fags never have an argument beyond muh spics in multiplayer.

>>15297806

And any other games are just a bunch of events tied to keys. What's your point?

>>15297853

Buts never the same match. Different heroes, different builds, different people.

The reason Dota was popular was the idea of dominating the enemy team.

>>15296560

Movies and music are both in fucking terrible shapes and much worse off than games.

>>15297806

>No, VNs are shit. By definition. Garbage non-games. Just e-books with pictures and a melody.

What you're thinking about are kinetic VNs, which require pretty much zero input from the player and have a pretty straightforward storyline. Those does fit the definition you're thinking about.

There are however VNs that actually require player input and possess another type of gameplay on the side (either simulation, strategy, or detective stuff) such as

>Ace Attorney

>(Shin) Hayarigami

>Tantei Jinguuji Saburou

>Tokyo Twilight Ghosthunters

>Utawarerumono

>Fuuraiki

>Makai Shin Trillion

>Amagami/Kimikiss

>Photo Kano Kiss

>etc

Yarudora VNs were also pretty impressive for its era (developed by Sony of Japan itself), but you're not gonna meet that kind of budget ever again

>>15297771

>misses quads by a long margin

>butthurt that none recognizes his skill in assfaggots

You will probably turn tranny and kill yourself after you realize that no one will remember DOTA and LOL with nostalgia, not as they do with anything 80-90s gaming.

>leftist

Take your meds. Maybe people just got tired of the DRM.

>>15297163

>GOG has a real problem which is that faggots post their installers to torrent sites day 1 every single time

That's not GOG's problem and when they're slow to release people just post trivial Steam cracks instead. Great example is La-Mulana 2 recently. The Steam release has DRM but came out a few days earlier and still has precedence on torrent sites.

Speaking of Terraria, the cocksucking mod community won't properly maintain Tmodloader for the DRM-free version of the game.

>>15297163

>You can't tell a small developer that piracy doesn't cause lost sales when he can load up TPB, look at say Terraria 1.3.5.3 and see that 10 people are downloading it this very second.

Also you absolutely can, it's as simple as explaining to them how copyright infringement actually fucking works. If anything it can spread around awareness for niche games and increase sales in the long run.

>>15297418

>I'm glad that VNs were removed since they're all fucking shit

Regardless of feelings the principle of it is the most important matter and fuck censorship.

>>15297994

And here is how it actually works in reality:

>hey check this cool game i found

<oh cool how much did it cost?

>nothing i pirated it lol

<oh give me link

Small dev goes out of business with wasted time on a game nobody will buy. Prove me wrong without resorting to screeching. Or rather, prove yourself right with data.

>>15297418

>I'm glad that VNs were removed

You are glad to have fewer choices?

>>15298022

k

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110727/16233815292/another-day-another-study-that-says-pirates-are-best-customers-this-time-hadopi.shtml

http://please use archive.is/tech-policy/news/2010/05/file-sharers-are-content-industrys-largest-customers.ars

http://please use archive.is/tech-policy/news/2008/10/dodgy-digits-behind-the-war-on-piracy.ars

http://please use archive.is/tech-policy/news/2008/01/oops-mpaa-admits-college-piracy-numbers-grossly-inflated.ars

http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing_March2004.pdf

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d10423.pdf

http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/ippd-dppi.nsf/eng/h_ip01456.html

http://please use archive.is/tech-policy/news/2009/06/study-p2p-customers-are-hollywoods-best-friend.ars

http://please use archive.is/tech-policy/news/2010/04/us-government-finally-admits-most-piracy-estimates-are-bogus.ars

http://uk.pc.please use archive.ism/articles/884/884757p1.html

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/study-claims-pc-market-largest

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/npd-four-per-cent-of-us-gamers-admit-to-piracy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8354166.stm

>>15296700

They screwed up the market place a while back. you have to sign in to steam guard to make things work. Fuck that.

>>15296889

Did they fix tf2?

>>15297422

Fad game boosts activity, the fad dies off, player base goes back to before. The whole service is based on booms driving new people.

good boy. that tencent. mobile gaming and battle royale is were the money is.

>>15297649

>>15297709

>>15297853

RTS and MOBAs are top down shooters. FACT.

>>15297418

>being pro-censorship

>being anti-loli

Steamfags everyone

>>15298079

not anymore. guess the 13 year olds are going to fortnite. the moment it is up. it soon comes down like a rock.

>>15297418

>Things people like but I hate are removed from the Jew DRM format I suck cock for. Forcing them to get their VNs from hopefully less jewish places.

Thats very noble of you Anon.

>>15298195

trough cuckchan.

>>15298164

There's still thousands of shovelware titles on steam, the fuck are you talking about?

Visual Novels are comparatively small to the storefront as a whole

>>15298117

>Trying to lop cucks under 1 banner

Not going to work, we'll just run into another group or service.

>>15296542

>It's not like Steam is enforcing leftist, militant-sjw censorship and shit

Except they recently allowed everyone to put their games on steam as long as they aren't illegal.

Quit lying you fucking faggot.

>>15298164

Also

>assfaggots apologist is cancer

What a surprise

>>15298199

so now steam is trying to have itself afloat trough us? since they did not wanted to pander the left?

>>15298035

Define fix.

If you mean it not being multicore friendly then no.

If you're upset about the mannco store and cosmetics congratulations Valve drove it into the fucking ground "crate drops" aren't really a thing anymore unless you buy a contract pass.

>>15298207

Or we could not listen to you being an autist and enjoy games that we like

>>15298217

meh. commies don't enjoy games we like. they rather see people suffer by starvation.

>>15298208

Your taste is still shit.

This article is fucking retarded. Yes, Steam numbers are decreasing, but that's due to chinks leaving the platform now that PUBG is dying and/or being handled by a Chinese company in China.

If one compares the numbers now and before PUBG they're nearly identical.

Also for any of you that want to be like really fucking mad about jew shit.

Listen to this when it comes to tf2, alright?

The median average for drops in a week is like 10, sometimes there's rare occurances where you know it goes up a little it goes down a little but 10 a week is sufficient.

Now with those 10 items assuming you got all weapons (you probably got something fucking worthless like a decal tool or a giftapult but let's say it's all weapons. You have right there 5 scrap metal out of the 10 weapons. Now out of every 9 scrap metal you get a refined metal.

Now we go to the trading scene where the retardation really kicks into high gear. Traders have set the price of a key at ~33 refined. Maybe it's gone down but at some point it was 30. Now we take that 33 refined break it down into scrap, so it's NINE TIMES as much. and you got 297 scrap metal now, assuming you get your 5 scrap a week it will take you about 60 weeks of grinding out metal to get 1 key.

The rigged economy in tf2 is SO BAD that it will legitimately take you OVER A YEAR to get a $2.50 key. A $2.50 key that, might I add, has been literally useless since like 2014 when they started introducing cases.

>>15298272

Thankfully I don't play shit games and avoid multiplayer like the plague.

>>15298206

This.

>>15298304

Well, thankfully as long as you don't care about cosmetics this doesn't have as big of an impact, still, it's retarded tha geel in all his kike faggotry was unable to stop and consider

<Hey should I not inflate the value of a $2 item to correspond to literally a year of work?

<Nah I'll just point to thousands of dead accounts and crafting robots (violation of the rules) and say it's justified because of how much metal there "is"

>>15296542

Golly gee I couldn't imagine why people are starting to dislike steam. Surely anti-white censorship couldn't be the reason, nope.

Maybe we should try playing the games we bought through steam outside of steam? Is it possible to copypaste the loicenses you bought through stream to another service?

>>15298323

Far as I care, any dumbfuck that pays for cosmetics deserves to get fleeced by the Valve Jews.

>>15296542

>It's not like Steam is enforcing leftist, militant-sjw censorship and shit

[citation needed]

don't just post random shit when you don't know what you're talking about

>>15298372

>inb4 you were shadowbanned for thought crimes

>>15296670

>A lazy trolling review is proof of steam censoring games

What kind of special laboratory engineered breed of spaz are you?

>>15298039

actually it's mostly because steam stopped counting individual installs in game cafes as separate users

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-steam-hardware-survey-had-some-flaw-causing-cyber-cafes-to-be-over-counting-users.11711/

suck my gog

>>15297613

It's like trying to talk to the fucking Orz.

>>15296664

During the 360 era, there were a shit ton of ports from the Xbox 360 to the PC. You had your Dead Spaces and your Bioshocks and your Red Factions. That's the whole reason I got into steam in the first place was because it was easy access to big budget triple A titles that were being ported from console. There were a glut of those games and you could get them on sale for like ten bucks if you were smart.

Now the 360 is dead and console games aren't worth a shit, even if they do get a port.

>>15298196

Fortnite may be dethroned by better game but BR would not going anywhere. Its new genre that would stay forever like "CoD shooter". If Valve wants these players and their monies back they need their own Battle Royals that are better than PUBG and Fortnite.

>15296560

>valid artform

I wonder what is that.

Kikewood? Niggerdance? Womynrature? Art studies?

Who validates artforms anyway?

I guess nobody is having games as only entertainment in their life.

Whatever I'm glad steam is dying. It's funny how gaben went all the way down from 'savior of pc gaming' to some opressive kike that people will love to see dead with joy in their hearts and forget.

>>15296542

No you dumb shit that has nothing to do with it. There are less people on steam because PC gaming costing more and because of big shitty games like Fortnite and Overwatch not being on steam. Use your brain.

>>15296679

>>15298396

>"troll"

Who the fuck says this anymore?

ARE ANY OF YOU EVEN FROM HERE?

>>15298667

i had hoped they would spend some money to start developing ut4 again after the success of fortnite. then they sold out to tencent and there's no more hope

>>15297135

He is in fact the same hyper blackpilled faggot, he's a summerfag and he needs to get the fuck out.

>>15298667

Spoken like a true commie double-thinker

>diversity (""arena shooters"") doesn't work

>we need to try harder!

>because diversity is good

>>15298086

>most media products have a steep decline in sales after the hype train dies

>go to steam

>search "Grand Theft Auto V"

>still retains 50% of its value

>only recently been given a permanent price reduction

>game released almost five fucking years ago

>Dark Souls III is still full price three years later

>Witcher III Wild Hunt is still 40 fucking dollars nearly four years later

>Deus Ex Mankind Divided still retains 50% of its value

>Watch Dogs 2 is still full price two years later, the original is at 50% price point almost almost six years later

>Far Cry 4 is 50%

Not saying you're wrong, but it seems to me like the prices of these products do not reflect this. Could it be that digital media doesn't lose its marketplace value because it effectively removes "supply" from the equation and only adjusts it pricing based on consumer trends? Such lavish savings, amirite?

>>15297296

>stock in a private company

>>15299071

>What's a privately held company

Something that an underage faggot like yourself knows nothing about.

>>15298913

What?

>>15299092

Why is UT good game again? Because it has 10 players?

>>15296542

>Retard thinks Steam is failing because the masses have been redpilled

>When the reality is that the hottest normalfag games of [Current Year] aren't on Steam (Overwatch is on battlenet, Fortnite on Epic Games Launcher, etc)

>>15299180

Overwatch is the hottest game of like 2016, nt faggot

Look at the 1Y for Valve's own biggest games

https://steamcharts.com/app/570#1y

https://steamcharts.com/app/730#1y

The biggest draws for Steam are growing stagnant and people are playing other games.

The only real excuse you could use is fortnite, anything else is just misdirection

I only use Steam for multiplayer games nowadays tbh, every single player game I just pirate

But even still, I wonder if Chinas sensors are blocking Steam from internet cafes to railroad them into playing Tencent shit like they do with Facebook and Jewgle. Chink internet cafes probably make up a majority of Steam users at this point so I'm glad its dying

>>15296560

>(((artform)))

>>15296542

Only retards like you would think that Steam was ever good.

>>15297149

Piracy always find a way, impotent shill. Your company of choice won't profit and we will keep getting all our games for free without compensating the slaves that you call corporations.

>>15297149

>we will have bo choice but to stream everything from the cloud.

I'd like to see them come take my physical copies.

threads like this reminder me just how delusional the average poster is here, desperately trying to assert that his wishful fantasies were reality

>>15299377

Actually Riot had reverse trend first when companies like Blizzard press against toxicity even harder. Riot fired their "anti-toxity" Asian knight. They drooped hardcore self-sustaining ban everyone tribunal system and today their mods quietly let more offensives things slide. Hell they restored Tyler1 account, who continues to call people idiots on his stream (often first by watching numbers…).

>>15296560

Prepping bulls is not an art form.

>>15301396

>Why the fuck weren't the other war3 custom maps converted over? Oh right, because they were completely flooded by DOTA and DOTA clones.

this was so frustrating. back in wc3's hayday, you had to sift thru 15 to 20 dota games on the list to find a single civilization, footman wars, etc.

>>15301215

sage for double, didn't see this when i first posted. but tyler1 started streaming dota and got tons of viewers, and they restored his account shortly after he started with dota. so that might've affected it.

>>15297052

>You don't see games like House Party, Hunie Pop or Nekopara on any other fucking platform, do you?

dlsite, mangagamer, nutaku

>>15297058

>What the fuck is wrong with physical copies you faggot?

I have physical copies. They're great and collectible, but they fall behind vs digital distribution for a few reasons.

>outdated

v.s digital download always being the up to date version. I've had cases where updating a disc version took as long, some longer, as installing from a digital download.

>"disc-locked content"

If you think you are free from DRM or DLC bullshit by going physical, you are wrong.

>can get damaged v.s all digital distribution giving unlimited re-downloads, back-ups, and permitting burning to physical media

I really do like physical media though, and for some of my favorite games I wanted a physical version. But my conclusion was to burn .iso's onto printed discs and boxes.

>Steam is enforcing leftist, militant-sjw censorship and shit

no they stopped doing any kind of enforcement at all and they got shit on by gaming journalists because of that.

>https://www.pcgamesn.com/steam-censorship

>https://dailystormer.name/steam-renounces-all-censorship-including-of-politically-incorrect-games/

>https://www.cnet.com/news/steam-says-it-will-stop-censoring-games-publish-anything-that-isnt-illegal-or-trolling/

I don't recommend you visit any of these shitty sites but it's proof I'm not bullshitting you. They were censoring nudity and various things before but now as long as it's not against US law anything goes on the platform according to the general public.

When was the announcement/media-avalanche regarding steam not moderating its store?

>>15296765

Yes faggot. ASSFAGGOTS might be closer to RTS (the genre they killed), but LoL shit spawned the whole shift from multiplayer games being fun into becoming competitive e-sport korean cancer. As well as all the elitist LoL kids who think they are a hundred million leagues above CoD casuals because they play babies first RTS. Battle Royales at least do the opposite by encouraging free-for-all gameplay and not offering the illusion of becoming an e-sports pro gaymer.

Stop this post-contrarian shit.

>>15297006

If all those developers leave and stay gone then valve is just fucked. They can't make a game to save their lives, according to dedicated Valve autists, and the way the company is structured means they're slowly losing their cash shops as more and more of their resources move away from shit like TF2 and CS:GO to fuck with failures like VR, steam machines and the Dota card game nobody seems to like, not that it matters as trading in their precious hat economies has become so locked down to the average user that they're more than likely not going to jump through those hoops in the first place.

>>15297058

>rest assured Valve will live for a long, long time; they've built up too much influence by brainwashing redditors to do the most powerful type of advertising (word of mouth) for them

And the only thing they've been spreading is doom and gloom, look at that Valve News Network guy, for example. All he's done thus far is just report on any trickle(or lack thereof) of shit valve feeds him, but when it's shit like the fact that not even gabe newell's son can get his hands on Source 2, or Left 4 dead 3 being shitcanned because they couldn't decided to use Source 2 or Unreal, and HL episode 3 was cancelled when employees started quitting valve, it's not exactly going to bring people in.

>>15296548

^ upvoted

>>15297140

>explain this game then

IF vita ports are lazy as hell?

>>15301636

>>can get damaged v.s all digital distribution giving unlimited re-downloads, back-ups, and permitting burning to physical media

Unless, say, EA bans your account or takes down the servers that deliver your content

Enjoy the most expensive rentals you've ever had

>>15328369

Not really though, I mean sure, a lot of the Big guys For you might stick to steam for their releases but there are other places to get games. Especially if you want to buy Japanese Amateur developed titles.

They are in decline because games get more and more pozzed and cucked. That's why.

You can thank the jews for that.

>>15297006

>Also word on the net seems to be that companies want to move over to streaming games

I take it no one else remebers "onlive" and its failure, not even investors.

>>15328369

how about you buy it from the original dev instead botnet enthusiast. if the dev only wants to put it on steam than don't buy the game and the dev is faggot anyway and the game is likely shit so don't bother.

>>15296664

chinks came in, chinks are leaving

its no loss, the chinks just played pubg and dota

>>15297191

Not as long as I exist, I have a 48 TB array of every emulated library on a hyperspin setup with a backup.

>>15301561

dont forget FAKKU!