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48f6cc No.15292533

I hear the recent Dissidia game flopped. I haven't played the other Dissidias, so I'm curious to learn what went wrong, given big crossover games don't usually crash and burn without good reason (like terrible PR or bad rosters). And, if this game is in fact bad, are the other two worth looking into?

2974c7 No.15292574

The first two games were one on one games that gave the characters a lot of good gameplay mechanics to deal with each other, as well as very varied arenas based on different games in the series to fight in and a very, very large amount of single player content to unlock and collect such as character levels and equipment to boost your stats or augment certain play styles in the 100s of hours range.

The recent game trades a lot of character utility for team battles, which makes everyone feel particularly bland on their own, the single player can be completed in a few hours, and all the equipment is discarded for tournament/e-sports balance, with the only unlockables being titles, banners and crap that only e-sports fags care about.

The only thing bad about the previous games is that they may feel dated by now. Also, Dissidia 012 is the sequel to the original, but has all of the content of the original game, even enhanced to work with the gameplay additions that 012 made like a world map.


1649dd No.15292603

>>15292533

The game isn't bad, per se.

I played it, and i enjoyed it.

However, it is different from the others to be sure


0b7a31 No.15293169

File: ce8e829f323d376⋯.jpg (462.41 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY NT_….jpg)

File: dbf2103a633ef8a⋯.jpg (690.7 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY NT_….jpg)

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People expected massive fanservice but they got a great team party fighter with a Final Fantasy skin. Most people who played and enjoyed the original Dissidias didn't play it for the battle system but the fact you could beat up Squall with Kefka. NT was actually made as a game first and then as fanservice second, and that's a problem.

When the first news about it came out, most people were shocked to see you could only use one HP (damage-dealing) attack in battle, thinking they were dumbing it down even more; when in reality since it's a 3v3 game now, you have much more attacks and opportunities for setups and combos altogether as a team. Team composition, summon choice, attack choice depending on the arena size and obstacles, buff and debuff choices depending on the team composition itself, there's a lot to take in. So most FF fans trying out the game pick Cloud and try to play it 1v1, lose repeatedly, and give up. (Never mind the fact Cloud has one of the best HP attacks in the game currently.)

The other major issue is matchmaking. It's p2p, there are no dedicated servers, and it's utter shit. You get a bot match every other fight. It's unclear whether this is a technical issue, or there's simply not enough people playing ranked. (Of course, you're paying for this privilege with PS+, don't forget.) Lobbies are regularly up, there are communities and player run tournaments, even officially backed ones, but it's few and far between, there's like 2-3 teams that are regularly at top. The whole e-sports angle is flimsy. The game is very popular in glorious Nippon arcades, but the push overseas has been pathetic.

Of course, all this means there's no real singleplayer content. You have a story mode that's basically nothing, annoying summon fights and a pointless arcade mode where you can abuse the AI. At least there are no microtransactions to kike around. It's a shame, because the game itself is very fun if you find enough people, the characters are really well balanced and they've been updating the game regularly. To answer your question: Dissidia 012 is still very fun to play, lots of stuff to do (it includes the original Dissidia so no need to play that one), and if you have an itch to keep playing after that, get NT on sale somewhere or rent it, YMMV.


47047d No.15293199

>>15293169

>Make a competitive team-based game

>Matchmaking is shit

Well there's the problem.


7638ef No.15293875

Yeah NT isnt BAD it's just not as great as the first teo games, I don't regret my purchase of it though.

We ought to do a game night for NT


ca918d No.15293883

They literally tried to make it an esport game. Thats it. It ruined everything.


b05ade No.15293887

>>15293883

Dissidia esports sounds like a dashcon tier embarrassment. I'm guessing there weren't ever any actual tournaments.


ca918d No.15293915

>>15293887

They tried to get some none esports youtubers known for final fantasy stuff to play with some chadniggas and it was a shitshow.

After that the game critically bombed, worst game with the FF branding ever in fact, and you saw a few soyboys trying to "build a dissidia fgc community in time for evo" but the damage was done. Its an extremely simple button masher where a few moves are so op everyone used them.

By the end of the first week there were hour long matchmaking ques.


000000 No.15294055

>>15292533

>like terrible PR or bad rosters

That is precisely what happened. And the mandatory "gameplay turned into shit for brainless masses in order to attract more people instead of catering to those that already like the game, making the company lose both audiences".

Add a demented urge from Square to cater to fujoshit as well, and you have FAIL written all over it.

Anything made by current Square is shit.


2b4375 No.15294111

It got dwarfed by the release of Dragon Ball FighterZ.

I know nothing of Dissidia beyond the PS4 demo, but there's not a game in the genre that would have competed well against something else which had so much hype going into it.


2974c7 No.15294469

Dissidia NT is what Smash would look like if it catered to Meleefags, now that I think about it.


48f6cc No.15295877

>>15294055

>Add a demented urge from Square to cater to fujoshit as well

I thought that was just part and parcel of Squeenix. Was it worse than usual here?


e91d68 No.15296091

Take a series of 1v1 fighting games with a lot of single player content. And I mean a lot. They were packed full of stuff to do without every touching multiplayer. Now, turn it into a 3v3 party fighter that forces you to team with two other people/AI. Then gut out most of the single player content, replace it with a barebones arcade mode, and make the story mode a collection of cutscenes and "boss battles" that you have to unlock piece by piece by playing the other modes. Finally, have the online matchmaking be so horrible that, around release time, it took absolutely forever to get a single match going (I have no idea how it is, now).

Even if it were the greatest 3v3 party fighter ever, the sum of all the shit surrounding it did it no favors in the public eye.




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