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>>15288034

Oh and of course the SO TtEoT twist will always be canon

>>15288055

These triple dubs demand a response

>>15288055

I liked the twist or at least I'm not as mad at it as most other SO fans. I was fairly disappointed with how empty and bland the 4D world was though. Star Ocean 2 was my first ever RPG and I still play through every year. The next game to release being mobile trash breaks my heart. But you can't really talk shit about the lack of advertising as an issue. The last SO had a fairly huge marketing budget and DAT ASS was posted everywhere. Then there was also the granny panty censorship hoopla. Everyone knew about the game. The bigger issue was all the negativity surrounding it every time new information was released. Poor design choices is what ultimately ruined this franchise not lack of fan awareness.

>>15290246

Wrong.

>>15290019

That game had more problems than the twist it needed another disk of content after you leave elicoor the game becomes rushed as hell and you get Sophia and peppiter at level 1 right at the end of the game i blame executive meddling.

>>15288034

Star Ocean as a whole is an alright series. The last one was a bit average but it was still playable.

>>15312510

The japanese VA for Star Ocean 4 is actually pretty good. The wierd voice acting for Limmle is a complicated story but to keep a story short it was at the end of the unvanny valley. It was close to be perfect for her character but was missing a few things that ruined it. The voice type also just works better in japanese.

Yeah the first 2 are the best abd i loved 3 until the fucking twist even with the shitty VA.

We did get psp ports though.

It just hurts ya know man? I love operatic games. So fee games today are genuine, grand and hopeful. Most zre deconstructionist or self deprecating "aware" garbage or juzt needlesly edgy or sanitized. Playing Star Ocean made me happy. Even when it gst dramatic it makes me happy.

That combined with the depth of the gameplay alongside the characters being unapolegetically heroic in the classical sense. Well, its inspirational.

I just want to see it succeed so badly. When i heard about SO5 i was giddt and then i saw screenshots and gameplay of it and initial reviees from trusted sites and it really dropped the ball.

Problems in no order of importance

>only one love interest

>one planet

>generic love interest

>everyones as cookie cutter as possible

>the world is emptier than 4 amd even more than 3

>everythings so muddled.

The fighting was still fun but like all Star Ocean games it was tragically small budgeted AND pressed for time.

Given that its a miracle SO 5 is a 7 out 10.

Every single SO game has been given a slashed budget to start with and evrry single one the developers have given their heart and soul into it and every time it either doesnt hit the mark because of budget, exective meddling, marketing and being given a small team and time.

>>15312615

>unvanny valley

>It was close to be perfect for her character but was missing a few things that ruined it.

>Yeah the first 2 are the best abd

>So fee games

>zre

>juzt

>gst

I am not usually a grammar Nazi, but holy shit.

>>15289494

The thing about Zelda that pisses me off the most is the retarded retconning that reads like fanfiction. The bird motif shield you aped from Dragon Quest was actually a depiction of a giant shoebill all this time, really? It's so bad I wish they'd go back to not even pretending to give a shit about continuity.

>>15313051

If they had included some sort of foreshafowing in 1 and 2 even a little that would have mitigated it imo. As is it makes M Night Shamalyan blush

>>15288055

The twist wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for them refusing to even acknowledge it in the games that have come since.

>>15313207

Id argue thats either proof of fans hatred of it, the developers admitting it sucked or both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFHP2_jG1Us

1st and 2nd game done quite shit although I love the first one, characters/dialogue were great despite the clunky gameplay, won't get a 3rd sadly

>>15319517

I feel like Lorne is learning, I want to see what he does next.

>>15319712

Soulstorm does seem like it's going in the right direction artistically. The repeated delays and still no gameplay footage ain't a good sign though.

>>15313207

>>15312510

they actually did acnowledge the SO3 twist in SO4. the main enemy force in 4 is a malicious computer program and/or hacker originating from 4D Space known as the Missing Procedure and Satanail

>>15319517

strangers wrath is one of the best shooters around, extremely refreshing

I've wanted to do a girls only run for SO2 but that would mean having to get all the way to the other continent before I could get a female melee specialist with Precis.It would suck as I couldn't use muh bro team bowman or Flac but It would be a fun challenge I think.

I could also choose not to use the cheese mountain behind cross castle for extra challenge.

What was the twist in SO3? I never finished that one.

>>15320752

tl;dr- the entire universe that the game series takes place in is akshually an MMO.

>>15320758

And there's no foreshadowing of it in the slightest.

>>15301887

You can get peppita before you switch discs, in fact i use her to grind robots in moonbase to buy weapons you're supposed to get on your second visit because they have at least 30x times the stats of your current gear.

>>15319194

What the fuck? There was gonna be that? holy shit.

I would have rather wanted like instead of 1 Duke you fall under there would be like 5-10 diffrent dukes and maybe 2 Kings that hate each other and you get to pick the side you want by going to diffrent regions of dukes and influence them by doing missions and shit. like you would get to visit the sand niggers that had that fake berserk girl.

>>15320856

>octosoy traveler

>fun

It's indie pixelshit with bloom and sparkles all over it, the only reason it sold is because switchboys are genuinely starved for games that aren't the usual nintendo shit, call soyny cucks all you want but at least they give their audience pozzed $69.99 movies to watch every couple months.

>>15320878

>anything with pixels is pixelshit

So does that apply to Star Ocean 1 and 2 as well or is it acceptable if it's on a handheld. Was pixel art acceptable until the DS? Really i'm curious where the cutoff for pixel art is and where pixelshit begins.

>>15320740

Part of the issue is that, like most developers that aren't their own publishers, Tri-Ace doesn't own what they work on, and thus have get Enix (now Square-Enix) to clear it if they want to work on more Star Ocean, Valkyrie Profile, or unlikely as I assume it will ever be, Radiata Stories. Also probably some meddling on the publisher end as well, the way Square-Enix apparently forced their hand with SO5's global censorship because simultaneous worldwide release, though I'm not sure who exactly opted for the twist in 3. Square-Enix also more than likely has the final say now in what comes west, and the PS4 port of Second Departure sure wasn't. They seem to have a hatred for series Enix used to publish in general though; beyond none of Tri-Ace's PSP ports or remakes having digital versions (and thus can't run "legitimately" off the PSP), none of the Enix era Tri-Ace games have digital rereleases, as do none of the Dragon Quests, as do all but one Quintet title (Actraiser). I would assume the only reason Till the End of Time got a PS4 digital "remaster" was because, in addition to having more content, it was based off the PS2 Director's Cut, which was post-merger rather than pre-merger (the original version being one of the last Enix published games in Japan).

This isn't to say Tri-Ace dindu nuffin either (consider how Exist Archive was apparently considered pretty hit or miss, and that didn't have SE remotely involved), just that having to rely on the whims and mandates of a publisher because they don't own shit is a factor.

>>15320856

>one of the 10 wise men was a 4d fucker

citation needed.

>>15320900

Lotta hate for the game because it's new and getting a lot of attention. Truth is it's a mediocre turn based RPG. Nothing great but nothing bad. You don't get many RPGs that have active battle systems like SO and SO2. The Tales series tries but I can say pretty confidently pretty much all the tales games suck ass, except maybe the SNES version since it was trying something new at the time.

>>15320968

>citation needed.

It was in that surprisingly big in game encyclopedia Star Ocean 3 had, of course updated to that after you went to 4d space.

>>15321006

interesting. I never got to the end of SO3 so I never got to see the retardation play out live myself. Here's the part where things go full pants on head. First time viewing it myself.

>mix of strategy and tactics, have to balance economy, merc personality, equipment, the works

>incredible amount of atmosphere, apparently a fair amount of the voice work was amateur but you'd never know it

>lots of little things to discover and fiddle with if you pay attention, or you can just straight blitz through

>game engine was remarkably detailed for its time and still holds up

>license has bounced around ever since this pinnacle and nobody could get it right (at least for a new game, 1.13 modders did a pretty good job on the original)

Why is it apparently so difficult to take something good and go "This, just more of it"?

>>15320800

The very beginning of the game has the main character dicking around in a virtual reality thing with every other line being about how he's always inside of a game.