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Mobile fag here can I get a hot link?

>>15280176

Please stop trying to take away the BIGGEST FAGGOT IN THIS THREAD AWARD from me.

>>15280179

Clover dev sucks

>>15280166

If they take away cinematic kills and just allow gibbing and a slide kick attack, I'll consider playing it. Also fuck their health and ammo system, pickups are better instead of what is basically Black Eye skull from Halo (melee kills regen health).

I sure can't wait for DOOM: Eternal™ by my favorite developers at ZeniMax! I bet they'll make SnapMap™ even better this time around (maybe DOOM: Eternal™ could even increase the maximum monsters-per-level cap to a whopping thirteen!) and hopefully they'll manage to keep even more pirates from trying to get their game illegally by adding the new version of Denuvo that stops customers from playing at all!

quake champions is made by niggers. every decision that could be made was the most niggardly decision possible. from a rare item in a lootbox, instead of being a duplicate that gives you credits, it gives you a slightly bigger heel on your boot

loading times are longer than a niggers afro and the menu/loading music was designed by a braindead nigger.

if i could ever meet someone who made any of these decisions i'd like to whip them like the nigger they are

PROPER MODDING WHEN TODD

OF COURSE NOT YOU DIDNT LEARN ANYTHING FROM FALLOUT 4 AND SNAPMAP

>>15280214

Agreed I got it for free and it still sucks ass

I don't think doom 4 deserves the hate it got the arcade mode is much better than the story mode even if snap map and the Multiplayer suck

>>15280246

This.

Idtech has always depended on the modding community (it's dead now obviously)

>>15280252

New maps come out for Doom 2 all the time, but companies are hesitant to release real tools to the public, probably because mods extend the lifetime of a single player game and make it harder for the publishers to release tons of dlc.

>>15280267

Nah they are just Jews mate

Doom 3 had modding built in.

Quake 4 and etqw never took off but that's before current fags time.

Doom4 needs its sdk leaked

>>15280214

If literally any other studio made this game it would be a bigger laughing stock than Lawbreakers but Bethesdacucks have been conditioned to expect broken garbage.

Stream's beginning

>>15280432

I think it's just starting now.

>>15280436

No the con itself was advertised as being from "9-12"

>>15280438

Well they didn't start until today apparently.

TOOOOOODD

TODD

I think they're announcing a new studio, by the way.

>Did you know that Skyrim was so great that a woman went in labor playing it and never took a break at all?

>>15280459

Right on the money.

>>15280499

Not even Bethesda could get away with charging money for that abortion.

>elder scrolls online

>no claps

>wade through perilous bugs

sounds like a normal bethesda game

Who the shit actually cares about ESO?

>>15280553

No one cares

>>15280558

That's literally impossible otherwise they wouldn't be shilling this shit

cough

QUAKECON, I'M ID SOFTWARE

The absolute manlet

>>15280553

There's somewhere in the ballpark of a million active players still on PS4 and Bone apparently. I don't know how much money that makes them but keep in mind FFXI had a playerbase smaller than that and managed to make Square more money than 7 did.

>5'11 vs 6'

>GOON SQUAD

Isn't rage just a wacky shitty mad max?

>>15280603

It was like Borderlands if the shooting wasn't god awful and it didn't rely on number porn to keep you playing. Stand out mediocre release in a year of mediocre games.

please clap

>The Marauder

>Looks like a demon doomguy

>"there's a story behind that"

FUCK

>>15280660

>exposed arms

>classic plasma rifle

>existing demons look more like the original Doom concepts

no complaints here

Goddamn it they still have glory kills,that's a bummer

Did Blizzard do these designs?

>making fun of SJW speak

Kotaku article in 3..2…1

>1-ups and lives are back

>maps aren't just linear railroads

it's a shame, if it weren't for the awful redesigns this would actually be kind of fun

>They're actually showing a second demo for mouse and keyboard gameplay

Fucking yes

so why didn't they just show this only instead of the slow ass console one?

>fucking dark soul invasions in doom

lmao

WE DARK SOULS NOW

>dark souls

wait what the fuck

>>15280166

So how's the game look when compared to Titanfall 2?

>>15280751

in single player fps? whata fuck?

>>15280758

There's offline mode like the pc version of dark souls.

The biggest issue of this already is that they are reusing that shitty soundtrack from the first game.

That human interaction was pretty great,not gonna lie i hope we get more of it

>>15280770

I hope we get some before and after interactions where you entter in that room and every one has been brutally killed.

Is there some kind of dodge ability? Have they been playing too much DS?

ARCHVILE? OH GOD HELP US

Now lazer sword.

archvile-chan is a big demon

>>15280803

She's gonna heat up your life

>>15280769

Doom never had a good soundtrack.

whens the release date?

so uh

>you can dash twice before having to recharge

>your super shotgun has a grappling hook which can let you swing around enemies

>your combat shotgun is automatic

>extra lives?

>you have a shoulder-mounted grenade launcher/flame thrower apparently

>overkilling enemies drops armor shards

>glory killing is still there

>glory killing overcharges your next melee hit

>BFG10K

>you can swing around PoP-style on poles and climb certain walls, and punch through certain walls

>there's a sword attached to your hand now

>levels seem a bit less linear

>shoot the cacodemon's weak point for massive damage!

>you get the giant laser sword from the previous game

>archviles

>dark souls invasions?

The new additions to gameplay seem cool but the new enemies look like complete wank in what they're going to add, aside from maybe the archviles we barely saw

Looks mostly like the same shit

>>15280814

>Looks mostly like the same shit

Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with this. Playing the 2016 nu-doom on the hardest difficulty was fun as fuck and they're seemingly getting rid of a lot of the issues I had with it in the new one.

guys i just blew my load during the DOOM Eternal demo!! I cannot wait!!! I need this game!!!

I just watched this with a friend and it looks like dogshit. Sidestepping is literally strafing but for players too shit to strafe correctly.

Good thing that you can now ignore glory kills and kill the demons directly (was it the same in the first one?); maybe that means there will actually be lots of pickups in the levels.

What the hell was that dodge? do you have a dodge button now? it seemed to work in any direction.

Enemies still seem to be fucking harmless, like they ignore you and activate only after you notice them and start shooting at them, fucking shooting gallery shit.

Overall seems to be more of the same but maybe faster and improved somehow, we'll see. In any case it's not a Doom game just as the first one was not a Doom game; that doesn't mean it can't be fun to play.

>>15280829

Wow, the shills aren't even trying anymore are they

>>15280570

>>15280581

Bravo

>>15280829

normalfags are pretty disgusting

>>15280831

>maybe that means there will actually be lots of pickups in the levels.

Don't kid yourself.

>>15280830

>open world

>invasion

>sidestepping (totally not rolling)

>muh lore

This is literally doom souls.

>>15280808

t. shitter

>>15280832

Just a DOOM fan my friend, not everyone is a shill. head back to /pol/ if you want shills!

>>15280837

I was a hardcore gamer before you were born little man!

>>15280849

I think there's one track I like in the entire doom franchise. I unironically like mick gordon's woob woob version of e1m1 more than the original one.

>>15280872

t. shitter

>>15280872

>>15280808

Suicide is the answer

Im somewhat optimistic

Now we wait for the gameplay mods, Im sure Keegan is creaming his pants right now

<<15281087

Your astroturf idiom doesn't even make sense in that context.

So I'm a bit confused. Is this game open-world?

>>15281114

They can barely handle spawning a dozen enemies in rooms the size of my back yard so probably not.

Will the new Doom have multiplayer and if so will it hopefully not be shit this time?

Doom 2016 was pretty decent and this promises more of the same with various minor improvements and additions, i'm optimistic for this myself

Is it wrong to say that it's better than I expected? I had low expectations though.

>You can take control of demons to invade another Slayer's campaign like in Dark Souls.

Dropped.

>>15280814

I really dislike how they keep adding shit to the retarded praetor suit nonsense. I hated the muh super special armor stuff in nuDoom already and now they are kitbashing a wrist-chain-sword and that shitty shoulder thingy onto it. Not to mention the additions to the weapons. Where's my bog standard space marine in normal armor with a normal shotgun massacring demons? And they seem to expand on the DOOOMSLAYAAA crap even further.

>>15281355

>Insults doom

>But praises Titanfall

Kek, leave

>>15281466

You can't fool me. That's a screenshot of Oblivion.

>>15281665

SgtMark only hates it because he thinks it's ripping off his success. He'd probably be praising it like the faggot he is, if he hadn't made BD.

>>15281817

Doesn't really seem like it since he started this thread

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/101073-what-improvements-over-doom-2016-are-you-expecting/

>Doom Eternal is also getting a Switch port

N e a t

>>15281862

Wasnt SgtMark doing some D4D ports for BD ? Or it was someone else ?

nuDoom is passable, still better than FO and Wolf in terms of franchise rape. Certainly took some tips from BD and "rip and tear XD" meme.

As a side note:

Rage was so bad, that anything they do for Rage 2 will be a improvement(from boring shit to passable at best).

>>15281355

The only good thing about Titanfall was the mech porn.

>>15282158

>More demons present at once than the previous game

How many demons is it this time around?

>>15281665

>Does fast right

It doesn't

>Great game design

It is COD with jetpacks and not mechs

>>15282181

I'm not at home to make a webm.

Go to ~14:24 and take a look.

>>15282158

God fucking forbid people have a difference of taste.

>>15282158

The robot equating the demons invading to diversity is pretty funny, but the game just doesn't appeal to me.

I don't think NuDoom was bad, it just wasn't Doom. This doesn't look any different in that regard.

>>15282208

Are the SJW journos going to let them get away with that joke or not is the real question

>>15280732

This wtf. I couldn't believe they said such a thing. Mentally ill POC.

>>15282318

Do you not remember that E3 showcase where they toured the Bethesda office with some shitty take your kid to school day motif? They're ego is about as thin as their wallet after a hair dye sale.

>>15282337

Bethesda don't make the NuDoom games.

>>15282337

That was the video they had some random old woman introduce their E3 wasn't it? Man was that video awkward.

>>15282182

Play it on PC

>>15282557

>>15282199

It still has not fixed the major problems with the first one. The environment and level design still barely fucking matters, enemies are so samey that prioritization barely matters, weapons barely feel like they have an impact, and the music still sucks.

>>15282642

The design document is probably just a screencap of the doomworld top 100 list on a dart board.

>>15282659

It's a company owned by a guy who literally smuggled money illegally from the Federal Reserve and backed Hillary. You tell me how sincere this stunt is.

>>15282668

>Zenimax = Bethesda

>Bethesda Publisher = Bethesda Developement

You aren't getting a you with that terrible bait.

>>15282684

hey, retard! the publisher handles advertisement

>>15282673

>Stop liking what I don't like

Talk about being the other side of the same coin. Gonna sperg at me for wrongthink too?

>>15282658

That would be pretty good actually.

>>15282740

In theory, yes, but once you actually take a look at the thing sitting in their cubicles you get apprehensive.

>>15282158

>Titanfall parkour elements

Where the fuck were they? I sure as hell didn't see any wall running or slide boosts

>>15282659

>>15282668

Or maybe zenimax, which is consisted of multiple board directors, one of them is a jew who supports hillary and obama and another one is trump's brother, doesn't care about political messages in their games as long as they aren't overly offensive? Maybe nufenstein was sjw as fuck because it's made in sweden? Not everyone wants everything to be political dumbfuck.

>>15282760

Yeah, I'm willing to bet that the Wolf 2 devs were SJWs and the DOOM guys are just normalfags.

>>15282760

So a publisher infamous for meddling in development went out of their way to not change the obvious propaganda present in their biggest holiday release because they don't care about politics? Do you have any idea how much of an idiot you sound like when you make excuses like this?

>>15282750

>Deliberately assuming I'm buying anything

I play whatever the fuck I want you goddamn nigger.

>>15282775

Raking profit has nothing to do with sending political messages.

<<15282786

I'll take that as a no.

>>15282768

Looking at games made in Sweden, recently, makes sense to assume this.

nuDoom was apolitical and nuDoom 2 doing a jab at SJWs, while looking like a upgrade, is just a win for nuDoom compared to the bullshit in both Wolfs.

Nudoom is made by id.

Cuckenstein is made by Machine Games, who openly admitted to be SJW.

>>15282903

EPIC boomer maymay bro xD

>>>/4chan/

>>15282441

>Play a COD clone on PC

Why?

>>15281665

yea I'm feeling it. Nu Doom was slow as fuck. Yea you can swap weapons and you have a quick relative movement speed but the enemies are so pathetic that there is no sense of actual speed. Fuck you could go back to rainbow six rogue spear for a faster paced shooting game than this thing.

>>15282967

God, you're a fag.

I don't like how nuDoom devs focus more on creating huge environment than putting many enemies on screen, even though the enemy count seems to be higher this time around.

>>15282189

>First few seconds

>Woman on intercom sounding EXTREMELY scared, weak and disgusting

>walking forward

>Black man holding a clipboard with an overblown reaction face

>generic Asian woman scientist suit thing T poses for you

This is why I hate games in current year. Space age technology, spaceships. And they have 20% black workers, 20% Asian workers, 50% workers are women.

I want to like Doom, I do, but it is so WEAK and effeminate. Glad WH40k exists.

That gameplay at 14 minutes is beautiful though, much better than generic FPS's. I like that you have all those movement mechanics to boost strafe like you could in Armored Core, and the grapple mechanic is awesome. I would actually buy that, IF the game 99% matched this supposed trailer.

Also is nuDoom worth $9 with all the DLCs? I would if it was $5.

>>15283067

If you can get past the first level or two it's actually pretty decent. Nothing amazing, but a decent game nonetheless.

Why cant they put more enemies in this. Saw like 3-4 monsters attacking. Would be much more better if there were 200 zombies and you just fuck them up by sword while metal music banging. Also some of the monsters had awkwar sounds and animations not even talking about terrible enemy design.

>>15283064

>I want to like Doom, I do, but it is so WEAK and effeminate.

Sounds like power trip to me. You're an absolute badass and everyone else is a limp wrist.

>>15283122

I'm only speaking in context to the first 20 seconds of that youtube video. The gameplay was very, very impressive!

>>15282557

I just said I was gonna pirate it.

The closest I ever got to a shitesda game was when I pirated the first nudoom. Chill out.

>>15280267

>probably because mods extend the lifetime of a single player game and make it harder for the publishers to release tons of dlc.

Bethesda should know more than anybody that this is horse shit, simply because 90% of the mods out there simply use existing assets or tweaks to existing assets via nifskope mashups or texture swaps or some shit. Modders look forward to new DLC usually because it means they have new unique assets to play around with and make mods out of - and those mods usually encourage DLC sales simply because some of the best mods are dependent upon them.

>>15283064

>In a videogame about a nameless dude in armor

>On Mars

>Fighting off an invasion from literal hell

>Where the only things that ever get the spotlight are him, his weapons and the demons

>Which are gruesomely pulverized by the player in many different ways as the main attraction of the game

<"This one throwaway meaningless NPC that appears for a whopping total of 4 seconds in a 30 second cutscene in the entire game is not white"

Imagine being this fucking rabid.

Why the hell do they keep calling him Doom Slayer? He's called Doomguy.

>>15283545

Are you trying to imply this guy is the same marine as the one in the original Doom?

>>15283548

He is the same one from the first three Doom games (Doom I, II, 64).

>>15283165

POLtards acting cancerous. Is that new for you?

>>15283565

>POLtards

sup cybertranny.

>>15283623

Who the fuck is cybertranny? Did poltards finally embrace their gay side now?

>>15282158

This.

Looks much better than doom 2016 which I was kinda meh

>>15282158

It is better than DOOM'16 but still mediocre at best. You'll finish killing all the demons in, what, 4 hours? And what after that? There's no proper modding support and the engine will never be released to the public. It's just another mainstream throw-out made by a committee of market researchers. It's planned to sell a certain amount of copies and then just die in, like, a year or so. If it won't last for 25 years then why bother.

>>15283165

>Imagine being this fucking rabid.

i don't have to imagine it, faggot. not that i would buy a goddamn bethesda game anyway.

>>15282760

Go back to reddit???

EARTH IS THE MELTING POT OF THE UNIVERSE

>>15284536

Any game that you ever paid for? I wanna know your taste tbh.

>>15282158

I'm pretty sure they played it safe with Doom 2016. When was the last time a AAA game went balls-deep into an FPS that actually required you to git gud?

>>15283064

The absolute state of basement dweller. Look outside. World consists already of 20% black workers, 20% Asian workers, 50% workers are women.

>>15284996

Demonguy

>>15280671

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>>15284996

Probably an invading player

>>15285005

Made up numbers don't prove anything anon.

>>15283562

I don't remember Doomguy needing a mech suit to fight Hell

>>15282978

It's not gay if he says "no homo"

>>15284996

Newest raid boss in WoW. Don't know how he ended up in Doom though.

>>15282158

>Can dash multiple times in any direction

Instead of OG Doom where you could dash indefinitely because you're a badass space marine that's doesn't give a damn about current year + 3 stamina bars.

>Designs for everything is more akin to the originals (and look fucking great)

Arguable, though there's no gothic design from the metal aesthetic of the 80's that was in the original.

>Pisses on SJW shit

Where? What the robot said? Wow! One reference among the other shit Zenimax is pushing on our culture! That's all we get, one fucking reference. And what if I don't want any politics at all? I'm sick of this damn politicizing of everything I enjoy. See >>15282775 and >>15283064

>Way less demon spawning arenas in the map

That misses the entire point of our criticism of he last game. The problem wasn't that certain areas were dedicated to demon spawning. The problem was that you could not progress or return until you defeated that particular room. Who sent you here? They didn't do they're research.

>You can actually punch freely

Where? I see a bunch of "press x to kill" moves especially when he gets the hand blade.

>Demons get gibbed while still alive

Only fully positive point in this miserable, pre-assembled, PR-approved list.

>Titanfall parkour elements

What the fuck? Why is this a positive? Who gives a damn what other series is using for their gameplay. I want a scifi dungeon shooter. If I want to play parkour, I'd pirate Titanfall or Deadlight.

>OST has far less, if any, wubwub shit and more guitars

Bullshit, it's still that stupid pisspoor NIN-wannabe shit from the last game.

>Revolving shotgun

Yay a stupid gun! Meanwhile, I can add any gun I want in OG Doom, which you can't do with this or nuDood.

>More demons present at once than the previous game

How much more? What's the limit?

>Upgrade system has been replaced by secret upgrades in the levels

NO! No god damn upgrades!

>Plays more like a Quake game than QC

Bullshit! Come back when you can make the game play like Quake 1 or 3.

>Even the SS reload animation is more paused to resemble the original's lack of frames

But without the same total reloarding speed. Meanwhile, replicating technical or graphical issues of a previous game looks stupid unless there is some net benefit to gameplay like with bunnyhopping (which this game doesn't have). Just make a good game instead of pseudo-nostalgia bait.

>Doomguy is motherfucking Predator now

Not doomguy, Doomslayer! :^) If I wanted to play as Predator, I'd play the AvP series. Fuck you!

>Game goes from Phobos all the way to Earth

So? How is this relevant to the gameplay?

>You can use the Crucile sword

A motherfucking sword! Meanwhile in the OG Doom you can mod in daul-weilding sword and gun play like with Demonsteele or something that's completely medieval like with GMOTA. For this, just one stupid-looking sword.

>Doomguy chooses said sword to kill an Archvile, insinuating that it can soak up a fuckton of damage

You mean the sword can deal a fuckton of damage? You are a retard.

>There's a giant BFG, which of course will be usable by the Player at some point in the campaign

Unless it works like the original, I don't care and neither should you.

By the way, what the chance now that this game will have the new fucked-up version of Denuvo that won't work on most PCs? Pretty damn high.

Go fuck yourself you stupid drone/shill!

>>15285091

He got an upgraded armor because of the slayer that went full zeppelli on hi,.

Doomguy spent a lot of time figthing in hell man.

NuDoom was a piece of shit memegame for redditors.

- No enemies in the actual levels, only gauntlets;

- Forcing fatalities on every single enemy;

I can't believe there are cucks in here who cared enough to beat it.

>>15280671

That doothunter is more goofy than spooky.

I liked nu-doom and i'll like this as well.

My only complaint is that Doom Guy is to slow.

>>15280829

Pretending to be retarded is still…

>>15280868

Oh God! You're not even pretending.

>>15285427

>I can't believe there are shills in here who were payed enough to beat it.

Fixed that for you. Sage because shit thread.

This looks better than nu-doom in almost every single way.

Did they talk up anything not Todd related?

>They have an SJW AI

>It says shit like "Earth is the melting pot of the universe" during a demon invasion

>It says that Demon is an offensive term and should be referred to as mortally challenged.

I'm starting to think that this is /ourgame/

>>15285489

sounds unbased and cringe pilled to me

>>15285532

Go back to resetera and kill yourself nigger

>>15285489

It's a marketing gimmick, nigger. This is the same publisher who pushed out Wolfenstein: The New Colossus.

>>15285549

Don't care muh overton window.

>>15285549

The game is beign developed by a different studios in a different country, the publisher is just the people that put the money.

>>15285568

The publisher still approved of the content, do you really expect them to do a sudden about face?

Don't fall for a marketing ploy that tries to sucker you into spending your money on their game, considering their past.

>>15284996

Doomguys dad?

>>15285574

Oh dont get me wrong, i wouldnt buy it because these are the people that have fallout kidnapped and turned it into reddit nukes, but still, different teams can work on their own, the publisher didnt make nuwolfenstain the fuckfest it was, the developers did.

>>15285579

No, the icon of sin is the final boss of doom 2.

>>15282866

>Games made in Sweden

Here's the thing, all of them are made by the same people. Which all hang out with eachother, all live with eachother and drink their soylattes at the local café discussing how great diversity is.

Sweden is like a little duck-pond and the ones in media and entertainment business, basically stems from the same area. It's like all of the people ruling USA's politics, media and entertainment would stem from the most hipster place in Seattle.

Nobody else has the connections or the money to make it into any aspects of the entertainment-industry or political-industry for that matter. Unless you're a really good goy. What media-news and entertainment products Sweden produce and the image that comes from Sweden is basically the representative of these fucking clowns who represent like 0.5% of the Swedish population. Fact of the matter is, they even claim we don't exist as a people or have a real culture because they never partook in it.

>>15285601

He's the Betrayer, dingus. The guy who snitched the knight dudes to the demons to get his son back.

Doomguy's armor was made by an enslaved demon smith IIRC. The Betrayer probably got one as well, since they look similar.

>>15285642

Drink bleach nigger.

>>15282967

I don't understand your incredibly gay and nonsensical sissy autism rant. You complain about him not using the "have" verb, which is fine, its informal use so people usually only say "got" but whatever, but then go on a gigantic useless rant regarding plurality?

What does the "have" verb being missing have anything to do with that?

>>15285642

>he doesnt knows about the doom bible

>>15285535

>I can't read

>I don't like other opinions

>I'll call him a retard.

Boo hoo! Poor little shill can't handle the heat. Go end your miserable life.

>>15285585

At least it's not the pain elemental anon

>>15285660

You first, faggot.

>>15285688

>At least it's not pain elemental anon

He's here as well, not just Archvile.

>>15285688

Your trash excuse for an opinion isn't worth the read, reddit.

Now fuck off back there and fellate a loaded shotgun.

>>15285585

>no tits

What a shame

>>15285870

At least with the engine limitations, we won't have lost soul spam, right?

>>15285910

>Calls me reddit

>While sucking (((Robert Altman)))'s cock

>While defending nuDood 1 and 2

>While spout off inane non-sense he clearly doesn't understand

>While being an illiterate tool

Find the nearest interstate and hug a moving 18-wheeler for me.

Enjoyed nu doom looking forward to this especially seeing as it looks like there scrapping the serious Sam style "door closes room fills with mooks" for a more traditional enemy placement

>>15284996

Definitely the betrayer of argent d'nur

>>15284996

No John, you ARE the demons!

>>15282189

>those goofy fodder enemy executions

we want the blizzard audience!

>guns still sound like they are shot VERY LOUDLY, but with all the treble and loudness taken out

and they seem delayed

>that segment after "Earth is the melting pot of the universe!"

I probably would have loved it if I were 14 and into shit metal

>>15285660

>caring about the lore

>in Doom

When one of Doom's devs did that he was promptly told to fuck off by Carmack et al.

>Nofunallowed.png

This entire thread.

>>15286505

>The autistic tech savant doesn't care about story.

Holy fucking Dick what a surprise. Doesn't mean there wasn't a story no matter how sparse in Doom 1 and 2. And I actually enjoyed the text interludes, they had good music and were a nice break from all the killing.

>>15286423

>14 and into shit metal

If anything this was the original Doom audience.

>>15286345

>guns

They can't make the guns actually feel good, because they have to leave enemies in the execution state instead of outright killing them. That's why the super shotty wouldn't oneshot imps unless you were actually touching them in NuDoom. Also, they just reused a shitload of execution animations from the first game.

>>15282189

>the music is still just shitty walls of weird noise interspersed with a pinch harmonic or chord here and there for flavor

i don't know what's worse, the fact that the music still sounds like a nine inch nails record stuck in a garbage disposal or the fact that it's going to win (((awards))) and have praise heaped on it by retards for being so le epic

>>15287632

The story was just grafted on at the last minute for people like you that can't enjoy gameplay without being given some sort of direction. It's even more apparent with Quake.

>>15282701

so much mad in you. You hate the fact that I like something you don't like. You are so pathetic!

grappling hook is a neat idea, but it's too slow

slide dodge is literal cancer, as is 1up

where the fuck are my glory multi-kills, I want to hit a motherfucker with another motherfucker

I loved DOOM 2016! The music, the graphics, the gameplay, the absolute carnage! The guns, the muther fucking guns! The infinite ammo chaingun with no more cooldown was tight!!

>>15287714

I know for a fact that Mick Gordon could've made a better Doom soundtrack, but you can't have metal blaring if half of the game is walking down a hallway or trying to navigate the shitty automap to pick up the annoying fucking, almost necessary upgrades hidden in the maps. It fucking sucks that he's getting awards for this trash because then he'll just keep making trash instead of improving.

>>15285441

Good.

>>15287868

i'm no sound engineer but it strikes me that you could create the dynamic soundtrack very, very easily while still having music that isn't industrial bullshit. i imagine the way they did that was just having a script detect what's going on (how many enemies are around you, are they aware of you etc) and it fades in more tracks from the overall "song" for that stage. shit, if i can track down a master of sonic clang's e1m1 i'll try and do that myself, shouldn't be too hard

>>15280548

>Lore

>Doom

Fucking kill yourself.

>>15288542

and as usual they can't take 5 seconds to actually address the substance of the argument

>>15288628

They're removing Snapmap in favor of post-launch DLC.

>>15288635

Where did they say that?

Cant wait for the inevitable polygon/kotaku/rps article decrying this as racist and blaming goobergators for eveything, followed by zenimax apologizing and flagellating themselves.

>>15288628

>Playing on PC.

>Not playing games on the ass screen of a cyborg badger.

The jews got you good Anon.

>>15282684

The same people are in charge of both divisions, but here's your (you).

>>15280166

Why the hell are modern AAA and AA devs so damn afraid to make a game based entirely on simple gameplay concepts and stories?

While these new rebooted Doom games look alright I can just tell without playing them that they could be so much better. Its like the devs are trying way too hard to convince people that they "get it" yet the truth is they don't. This isn't how a current year Doom should be. It is inferior.

>>15288667

http://archive.is/OZcp5

>>15285409

Doomslayer sounds like a pussy.Doomguy wouldn't take that shit

>>15281523

TF2 was great, what are you talking about.

>>15289066

We need someone to make a virgin Doomslayer vs Chad Doomguy.

I'd do it if I had enough drawing skill to do a Doomguy.

>>15288999 (Full House Checked)

Absolutely disgusting that modding today is degraded so (((publishers))) can gain a mere few dollars more. But hey, at the very least, Zenimax Id is giving up the pretense of "supporting moddibility" with that miserable excuse for a map editor.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=ss8SyOhqk1I

Only embedded Youtube so the thumbnail could show. Someone beg Codemonkey to support Invidious embedding

>>15288999 (Checked)

If they do full expansions that might end up being alright. Snapmap was absolute trash. Shame they are scrapping it entirely instead of expanding and improving it though.

I am one of the few people here who will admit they genuinely enjoyed Doom 4. It was far better than Doom 3. It definitely had more spirit and attitude than that wanna be resident evil.

>>15289818

Hi Todd

>"Lore doesn't matter!"

>Says this while bitching about how doomguy isn't a generic no-name marine anymore because he looks stronger and better equipped, even though he's been stuck in hell for god knows how long

Fucking faggots.

>>15290663

But that isn't what happened. There is literally nothing connecting the Doom Slayer to Doomguy.

Doom Slayer was some mystic being called a Night Sentinel who lost his son fighting the demons and he made a deal to bring his son back if he betrayed his dimension to hell, the demons agreed, he opened his dimension up to them and they revived his son as the icon of sin, then Doom Slayer snaps and begins killing all of the demons. DS and DG are not the same person. The timelines don't connect whatsoever. I loved NuDoom enough to know this, stop lying.

>>15289066

>Doomguy wouldn't take that shit

What?

Getting powered up?

Because thats what the slayer did, he gave doomguy his powers.

>>15290711

> There is literally nothing connecting the Doom Slayer to Doomguy.

There is, the game is a sequel to doom 64, the ending of that and DOOD fit together.

>>15290744

Where does it say that? The doom slayer is thousands of years old. The Doomguy is just a normal ass human.

>>15290754

>>15290711

>Doom Slayer was some mystic being called a Night Sentinel who lost his son fighting the demons and he made a deal to bring his son back if he betrayed his dimension to hell, the demons agreed, he opened his dimension up to them and they revived his son as the icon of sin, then Doom Slayer snaps and begins killing all of the demons. DS and DG are not the same person. The timelines don't connect whatsoever

There are 3 "Doomguys".

1] The Doomguy from Doom 1, 2, 64 and nuDoom who chose to stay in hell by the end of D64. He stayed there until he was trapped in a sarcophagus by the Demons because he became virtually immortal.

2] The Doomguy from Doom 3, who finds the original doomguy's sarcophagus.

3] The Doomguy from Doom 3's DLC.

>>15290770

There's 4 Doomguys actually, you forgot John Stalvern

>>15290771

DS IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD DOOMGUY IS A NORMAL SPACE MARINE. If the Doom 64 Doomguy is the same Doomguy as Doomsayer why is he normal all doom guy when he is locked in a fight with hell and not the guy who has been fighting demons in revengance for corrupting his son. Use your fucking brain anon. Try and suss it out.

>>15290775

He's a zombie now though, I don't know if it counts.

Is Dwayne Johnson eligible?

>we want to create a doom universe

Oh for fucks sake. Someone revive John Carmac.

>>15290778

Have you thought that maybe time in Hell passes differently than on Earth? That means he could've spent thousands of years there, while nothing changed on Earth time-wise. Some of those pick ups he found might've turned him immortal and stuff so he survived it all.

>>15290787

Also the armor, he literally bullied a demon to make him a magical armor.

>>15290787

He was a chill warrior with a wife and son FROM AN ENTIRELY SEPARATE DIMENSION not a UAC marine before he went full Dio.

>>15290797

Original doomguy isn't UAC, he is an earth defense force marine sent to mars to see why they aren't responding to hails.

I fucking hate this retarded doomslayer lore bethesda has crammed in there.

>>15290778

>If the Doom 64 Doomguy is the same Doomguy as Doomsayer why is he normal all doom guy when he is locked in a fight with hell

Doomguy was stuck in hell fighting Demons for thousands of years you moron.

The Tomb of The Hero in Doom 3 where the Soul Cube is found refers to a nameless character titled "The Hero" who defeated the Demons in the ancient past and saved Mars from Hell's hordes. Doom 3 happens after Doom 64. Guess where Doom 64 takes place? I'll give you a few seconds.

>Not the guy who has been fighting demons in revengance for corrupting his son.

The Betrayer is someone else entirely.

>>15290797

Additionally. Doom Slayer was at no point ever a UAC marine. They are not the same person. DOOD is a top to bottom reboot with no connection to the original games.

>>15290807

Sort of. They're pulling the "lol infinte dimensions" card so all doom .wad files are canon apparently.

>>15290800

Doom 3 is also a reboot. Jesus Christ. Carmack said it was a reboot.

>>15290912

>Poor design

Double-edged argument.

For perspective, OG Doom's maximum rendering capability was about 128 "things" (sprites) on the screen at any given time. Not enemies, sprites. Demons, blood, doomguy's weapons, barrels, items, bodies, walls, ceilings, doors the floor, the background and all effects/animations contained in each. If the number of sprites on screen surpassed that threshold, the engine would not render it, resulting in notorious bugs such as invisible/flickering enemies and massive drop in FPS due to the stress being put on the engine. And that's without considering the PCs from the era shitting themselves when running Doom, which was a very common occurrence when it released. That's what nudoom tried to prevent, as show in how ridiculously optimized it was thanks to Vulkan black magic (ran surprisingly smooth on my stone-age HD7850).

>>15291137

It really didn't. Doom 1 barely had rooms flooded with enemies most of the time. I'd argue blow for blow Doom 2016 had more action per room than any other officially released doom, especially the very first. I strain to remember a single room with more than 12 enemies in the original doom campaign. Doom II is obviously a better engine, but that doesn't change much about the design of the original game at all.

>>15291177

there's a few rooms in the original doom with over a dozen enemies on screen, a lot of the time they were used in really creative ways to make a successive challenge encouraging the player to be smart with how they engaged. Monsters like imps and cacodemons were also stacked in larger areas, making imps a distant pest that you can't easily kill and cacodemons an immediate threat.

Haven't played doom 2016 year, most of /v/ hasn't with its non-specific criticisms. I'd like to play it and make up my own mind. PC's currently on the bench so that's out of the question for now.

>>15287714

Have hope anon. Fallout 4 was snubbed at the VGAs after all.

>>15291219

Fallout 4 fucking sucked. Doom 4 was very fun. It's also an interesting case of the finished game looking better than the e3 demo by an order of several magnitudes. The only downgrade was the way enemies reacted to getting shot.

>>15290848

It's pretty funny that he's also trying to pull the "but a game made in 1994 with a percent of the budget and manpower is technologically inferior" excuse like he does every single thread with the exact same image every time. The spine on his shilling manual must by starting to tear by now.

>>15291137

Less aggressive, less mobile, slower moving/attacking and dumber than nuDoom's demons, but sure. Marginally higher count than nudoom, but never above ~20 enemies. Either way, Doom was never about enemy quantity. It was about enemy variety.

The greatest quality of doom's gameplay was that each enemy type has a very distinctive behavior AI that made them easily discernible and learn-able by the player. Playing Doom was not about mowing down a massive horde of enemies, but outsmarting them and evading their attacks while using the right gun for the job at the right moment. If anything, it's more of a bullet hell than a horde shooter.

Doom enemies are a lot more complex than people think, and their AI takes a lot more resources than what you see on the screen, hence why I explained here >>15290749 that enemy count is not really an argument for Doom, because it's not the point of the gameplay.

>>15291177

IIRC Tricks and Traps in Doom 2 has like 17 Barons and a Cyberdemon in one room, but they're all pre-programmed with high infighting values to attack the Cyberdemon the moment it sees the player and fires a shot, so most of them get killed off without even noticing the player. Another room has 14 Pinkies but they're all stuck in a platform like cattle to be killed, so their numbers were explicitly not used as an advantage, as shown by the level design. The most enemies it has are Imps (26) but they're split up by platform heights and attack in small doses due to the engine limiting their attack frequency.

In short, the originals never really spammed demons at you, and when it did show a lot of them, they were hindered to let you kill most of them off easily. Meanwhile in nudoom, every single one of the 12 demons in the room is free to swarm the player at any point. That's the difference people ignore.

>>15291235

I'm not talking about the gameplay you illiterate dipshit. Does someone even tangentially not praising the game cause you to scurry for some needlessly longwinded video to try and win a nonarguement?

>>15291236

Also the consideration that enemies killed are often times immediately replaced by another. The only major fault against Doom 4 is the enemies spawning in. The encounters can feel far less designed due to this. The rooms you fight them in are always interesting though.

Why is nu doom so hated?

>>15291262

Look at the fucking sperg Mao take your adderal

>>15291277

I to this day have no earthly idea why /v/ hates it. It's a very solid game, the lack of mod support is a definite black mark against it but I still found it very enjoyable.

>>15291285

from what I've seen it seems like a competent middle of the road shooter like serious sam, painkiller, necrovision and fear. nothing too special but fine for what it is.

>>15290797

There is absolutely nothing implying that the doom slayer was the night nigga, however there is info that implies he's the doomguy from Doom 64

>>15290807

And while there's also nothing explicit in nuDoom about him being a marine, his armor is human in origin, and some autists think the lettering around the argent symbol spells out UNSC/UNCS, though that's reaching

>>15291277

Partially because (((Bethesda))), and partially because of things that cock up the gameplay too much for a lot of people, like glory kills

A lot of it is nitpicking, but that shit can add up

>>15291277

It's only really hated by /v/, because it's owned by (((bethesda))) (which is fair) and because it's not an exact carbon copy of the originals, among other nitpicks for fitting in purposes.

Even Doomworld thought it was rather decent, their biggest complaint being the lack of mod support, which is a fair point.

>>15291300

>>15291277

There's a decent nougat core there, but that can be ruined if you really don't like the coconut and peanuts around it.

>>15291295

Yea I got it on PC for around 20$ and it was a pretty solid game for reboot but anything higher then what I got it for would be a no.

>>15291318

Those are all valid points.

>>15291295

I like it for the same reason I like resi4. You continuously improve your character, and the game mechanics allow you to break the game in fun ways. I like equipping the do glory kills further, and faster runs that turn doom guy into one punch man. I also like how you can avoid damage while doing glory kills, giving the game a very Japanese/platinum flavor. Shit's fun

>>15291354

It's a 7/10 game but a lot of /v/ags hated it because it reminded them and me tbh that not even the DooM franchise is safe from being completely remade for an entirely different kind of audience. If it wasn't set as a DooM game by Bethesda it wouldn't have gotten so much hate, but it also wouldn't have been so popular among normalfags. Also, there are a lot of elements in nuDooD that seem like they were literally put in there as a tribute to BD, and /v/ has always hated the hueBR and his creation, perhaps because he changed too much of vanilla's core gameplay while also having the gall to claim that BD is the definitive way to play classic Doom. If you look at nuDooM as just another nu-FPS for the current year, though, then it's actually pretty okay.

>>15291470

> If you look at nuDooM as just another nu-FPS for the current year, though, then it's actually pretty okay.

Yea if you ignore the DOOM part it's a pretty ok shooter a lot better then the other cancerous FPS that have come out lately.

>>15291470

>reminded them and me tbh that not even the DooM franchise is safe from being completely remade for an entirely different kind of audience

doom 3 is 14 years old, one of the best and earliest examples of this. names mean fuck all tbh

>>15291470

Yes nothing should ever be recontextualized for a newer audience. I sure am glad no one ever made a game called castlevania, or any marios in this newfangled 3d business. Who needs it? Dracula was perfectly fine as he was in the 19th century.

>>15291532

That may as well be the same time gap for many people now.

Hell, most people can barely remember a time when we didn't all carry cellphones.

>>15280166

I don't trust nuDoom to be good especially with the eternal dick sucking that it gets. My main concern will always be the glory kill system plus its regenerating ammo and health system. It is like when my brother said that FO4 has level scaling but it doesn't feel like it has level scaling. It doesn't actually tell me why that it is good.

>>15291555

>As this video shows that's a lie

You literally showed gameplay of yourself mostly standing still dumping rockets at a tight group of enemies through a bottleneck. You could've at least played E2M1 for your argument.

>>15291591

At 4 minutes in when he picks up some space marine doll and looks at it I had to stop watching. nuDoom isn't made for me or people who grew up with the originals and that's fine.

And man the levels might be much larger with more vertical area but they're also very sparsely populated compared to the original. In a single minute of my video there's 50-60 enemies killed on Ultra-Violence, the floor is covered in corpses and giblets. In yours there's maybe 30 killed in 2 minutes on Nightmare.

>>15291654

Fucking hell, enemy counts aren't everything. If that were the case then slaughtermaps would be considered the greatest levels of all time instead of a huge joke for the most part. So long as the encounters are set up properly a very small enemy count can still be very engaging.

>>15291654

>At 4 minutes in when he picks up some space marine doll and looks at it I had to stop watching

It's a meaningless level secret that you don't have to even go out of your way to look at. The guy in the vid did a completion run, and he's a Quake vet. Now quit trying to run away and watch the whole video proving my point.

>In a single minute of my video there's 50-60 enemies killed on Ultra-Violence, the floor is covered in corpses

You didn't even kill 1/4 of that. E1M6's total enemy count is 50, but enemy count doesn't matter when you're good enough to blast them dead in seconds, as shown in the vid I linked.

>>15291677

Agreed but that's not what we're talking about here.

>>15291692

I took the time to count them as they were killed in my video and I also picked E1M6 because of the high enemy count

>On the Ultra-Violence or Nightmare skill levels this map has 177 enemies–the most out of all Doom (and Ultimate Doom) levels.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/E1M6:_Central_Processing_(Doom)

>>15291592

>the core intent of nuDoom and nuDoom 2's development is to remove the originals from history and it's actually more or less working since normalfags lapped it up so deep into their throats they actually claim that they're better than the originals (despite never even playing them).

That has been Bethesda's modus operandi since they bought Fallout. Aside from shills and Bethesdrones, there is also game design paradigms are intrinsically linked to marketing. I don't trust the current market to define what is a good game. Right now, it feel like I live in island where shit is treated as a gourmet dish.

>>15291718

Yeah I just realized that that was ultra-violence. Didn't notice it at first because frankly even UV was pretty damn easy when I played, evidenced by the near-inaction of the player in your video and how easy it was to just spam rockets at bunched-up enemies to kill most of them off.

If anything, it helped my argument.

>>15291755

>squirmily try and turn being wrong into more credit for your argument

I don't even hate nudoom but that is some kike shit.

At the same time you can point at how inactive and easily killed all of the enemies are in your nudoom video on it's hardest difficulty. The guy basically spawnkills everything.

>>15291277

It ditches elaborate level design and enemy placement for mostly linear hallways and arenas where you can never be cornered and makes enemies spawn randomly, locks you there and doesn't let you disengage or run past anything, changes the chainsaw, BFG and berserk powerup from varied things requiring a bit of thought into braindead instakills, two of which force you to watch repeated noninteractive animations, has too much screen clutter and an unnecessary progression system, makes most enemies identical and has no semblance of a target hierarchy, lets you after five upgrades carry barely more ammo than your starting minimum in the originals, corpses vanish after death, has you go through shitty platforming filler and it removes any roles your weapons ever had.

It's not bad, but it could be a hell of a lot better.

>>15291295

FEAR is fucking amazing, it has some really good level design and weapons at your disposal, still not Doom-tier though. It's too easy and has very little enemy variety, but I seriously enjoyed doing an extreme no damage run. It's also got perfect special effects, if someone made a game with that shit and a crippling system like Doom Eternal's I'd pay a hundred fucking dollars for it even if its models looked like Quake's.

It's also completely different to the horde shooters you mentioned, and I don't really get their appeal. Should I try Necrovision?

>>15291802

dooms level design was never super elaborate. I'm gonna play it right now as a sort of review.

>>15291783

Nah the real kikery is messing up and accidently using his other IP when replying to me. Asides for lying and then lying some more when he gets called out on it he reveals that he's been posting here with multiple IPs to give more credence to his bullshit arguments.

>>15291825

It's just a way to say it's got effort put into it, Doom 4 practically has none and most encounters play out in identical ways, you just keep running and jumping around and shooting shit indiscriminately. Though I do believe Perfect Hatred has elaborate design.

>>15291783

>At the same time you can point at how inactive and easily killed all of the enemies are in your nudoom video on it's hardest difficulty.

Because the guy playing is obliterating them at insane speed. Want to see a random shmuck playing UV? The point stands.

>>15291837

Ever heard of having more than one device, buddy? Of course you haven't, you don't even have the brains to understand the difference of game design between having enemies spread out in a stage and cramming them all into a closet to easily kill them all off with one rocket, and then boast about "quantity". At least you have enough neurons to know how to breathe, a feat all on its own.

I like it how you instantly jump on the chance to talk about IP instead of talking about the game. Shows how hard you lost the argument.

>>15291898

>find a video with 3 views with a guy who looks like the same skill level as that one polygon vid as a comparison to the previous video

This shit looks like it's a baby playing on xbawks, the guy can't even keep on target.

>>15291910

Keep crying, you chromosome burglar. It won't unfuck your faggot face anyway.

>>15291860

just got through episode 1 after downloading doom.wad and a sourceport, pretty good, decided to skip a lot of stuff and it really clicked with me how much of each level is optional, not just secrets but many side routes are just there for the sake of it. The disappointing thing is you won't really need to make use of them, I did a sort of minimalist run, ignored most side areas, most secrets, ultra violence, and found myself well stocked with shotgun ammo, only running low on rockets and chain gun, but still had enough rockets for the bruiser brothers and chaingun ammo for the specters in the last map.

>>15291928

I love these casuals who are too afraid to just make up their own opinions and rely on regurgitating others. Too afraid to think for yourself, huh? Might as well not even post, no one's reading someones blog entry walls of text.

>>15291953

See, you have freedom. It's great stuff.

>>15291961

precisely why my opinion on doom 2016 is I have no opinion. Also the over reliance on the shotgun in episode 1 makes it a big of a repetitive slog, each moment to use the chaingun and RL is a nice reprieve but you'll run out of ammo before too long and be back to the chain gun. Something Quake really improved on is you're actively switching weapons and will run low on ammo prompting you to switch it up often.

>>15291928

Nu doom feels slow while old Doom felt fluid.

>>15291211

>Haven't played doom 2016 ye(t)

Enjoy empty levels with all enemies being scripted arena events, I guess. And be sure to fatality every single enemy you find, actually that's mandatory.

>>15292026

>Upgrades make the weapons absolute weak shit when you initially get them and some certain enemies like the shield faggot frustrating to deal with

That's what I meant, game feels like a fucking grind.

>>15291968

I don't believe Quake to be a good example, it doesn't have a pain mechanic so all guns are functionally the same and are prioritized by dps. FEAR is what I'd use, guns have different effective ranges, dps, armor penetration, mag size and I think another attribute that makes enemies stagger, as well as grenades and mines having their place. I like that more.

>>15292026

I hate the shield faggots too, they deal an inordinate amount of damage.

>>15292074

>I don't believe Quake to be a good example, it doesn't even have a pain mechanic

Straight up fucking false

See what happens when you blast someone from behind or pepper them with the super nailgun

>>15292136

>Pain mechanic

Quake has stunning, go play it

>>15292125

It's better than the original

>>15292206

Fuckoff Pete

>>15291953

You don't get to ask the same question or make the same tired copypasta argument every day and pretending someone rebutting it ever happened, while expecting others to not adapt to your jewish tricks and save time answering with copypasta as well.

>>15292136

My bad.

>>15283165

Do you see how much attention to detail is in this game? Every little thing onscreen was carefully crafted and put there. That includes the diversity hires operating advanced technology. Once you wake up to the poz there's no ignoring it. The decision to make most of the people in the station not white men exists in the context of a world where all media is ruled by people who are trying to destroy not just white identity, but identity itself for most of the planet, so as to more easily control the masses.

We're not all the same individually, and neither are groups the same. Groups like women and blacks are demonstrably not capable (as groups) of competing with white or oriental men. For such a pile of horseshit to show up in a game is plain subversion. They're trying to get people to believe things that aren't true to create better slaves, so don't give me this bullshit about a meticulously crafted big budget game having destructive lies in it as something trivial.

As for the game, it looks pretty fun. I greatly enjoyed the first

Man, this Life in Germany simulator is spot-on.

I'm looking forward to the new game. I like what I see so far, especially if they let me turn off the glowing indicators and ignore canned melee. The absence of demon rooms in favor of more organic encounters is a big improvement. I assume the low threat count and sluggish attacks from the showcased enemies is due to playing on easy for demo purposes. The arm blade is silly but the new mobility mechanics look like a lot of fun. I don't understand the "souls" mechanic.

>>15294348

>no demon rooms

I guess it was just one big room.

>souls mechanic

This is just acting as an enemy or having other players enter your game as an enemy?

>>15291928

/thread

time to glory hole todd

>>15286181

Holy shit.