/v/ - Video Games

>>15270452

>Official /v/

No there is no official anything

Additionally, much as I love VTM:B and think everyone who like WRPGs, and in fact video games in general should play it, it doesn't feel acceptable to place it in god tier given that it has all those glitches. Any info graph worth reading should have provide pertinent information in addition, such as the fact that VTM:B has tons of glitches, and that you should never buy the game and only pirate it.

Baldur's Gate 2 and the series as a whole is the start of cancer.

>lots of choices but railroads you anyway

>have to learn dnd mechanics yet takes liberties on it and does a piss poor job of implementing it

>resulting in stuff like useless stats like CHA

>loot out its' ass

>caters to thirsty teens/romancefags that ushered in a movement where devs don't have to worry about game quality as long as their game has a qt romanceable

why do goons love crpgs so much?

>>15270525

>have to learn dnd mechanics

This is not that hard. You can learn all the mechanics for a game from a wiki in an hour. I had to do the same thing with the first Dragons Age game, New Vegas, PoE and all the other RPGs I've played. There's always some ideosyncracy of the mechanics that you're goona need to look up to not flounder in the game. Just part of the genre.

>>15270512

Gnome poster detected.

>>15270542

>Dragons Age game, New Vegas, PoE

If you needed a wiki to understand the mechanics in those games, you've been drinking bleach as milk.

>>15270557

So you were able to infer the formulas that determine attack rate for dual-wielding from the animations? Or the bugs in NV? Lots of the underlying stuff isn't available in the games.

>>15270539

>asking the GQ is bait

answer it instead

>>15270586

Oh, you're an autist. That explains stuff.

>tfw cRPGs are shit but have better roleplaying and choices than aRPGs

>>15271221

>choices

You mean meaningless dialogue trees and walls of text?

i want a HD eddition of the Geneforge series

>>15271342

Is the KOTOR series any good? Been thinking of trying it out.

>>15271342

>you should be playing Gold Box and Dark Sun instead

Can I go for the middle ground and play Golden Sun instead?

>>15271376

Some bioshit fanboys will tell you that it's good, but in actuality it's mediocre at best. It's full of whiny characters who are wanna-be attentionwhores, full of subtle propaganda like muh stronk wymyn or muh poor very smart but different sand people (literally) and quests that feel as if they were written by interns. Combat leaves a lot to wish for, graphics are visibly dated and you won't get into it unless you are really into star wars universe.

>>15271376

the first is pretty typical bioware stuff, nothing amazing

the second is argued to be better but suffers from general obsidian bugginess/jankiness

as the other anon said, they really haven't aged that well and you're going to need mods. They also suffer from a really shitty camera that doesn't lend itself well to the combat

>>15271452

>>15271402

Thanks, dudes. I don't care for Star Wars, so maybe I'll skip the games. There are lots of other old RPGs on my backlog.

>>15270516

Play the second one. It's better than the first.

PoE is garbage, so much bloat in the dialogue. you could literally remove 30 to 50% of the words in the game, and if done right, the game will still make perfect sense.

>>15271958

>he can't read quickly and doesn't care about how the somewhat superflous text sets up a nice atmosphere

laughinganimegirls.jpg

Where are some modern games? I been thinking of trying out New Vegas or Fall out 2.

>>15272183

>>15272222

>b-b-but you can't read!

>poe is good!

don't get triggered because i criticized your favorite game. its pretty mediocre even when you take bad dialogue out of the equation.

>>15270452

>Official /v/

>with E.Y.E so low.

>>15272226

New Vegas isn't a new, modern game anymore, over 5 years. Lots of bugs, but they can mostly be fixed with modding, along with some nice graphical updates. Seriously, don't play it without a good number of mods. It's a nice non-isometric cRPG. Very different from the Bethesda Fallouts. Would recommend.

>fallout 2

Start with the first one. It's much shorter, so you can see if you'd like the similar, longer sequel. They're both a bit dated, especially the combat, but I found them enjoyable when I played them a few years ago.

>Morrowind

>God Tier

>above the Gothic series, M&B, and KoTOR 2

>putting Human Revolution in the "High" tier with those games, and Fallout New Vegas

>Risen in Mid tier, below Morrowind and fucking Human Revolution

We need an 8ch version of this list. This just reeks of 4chan.

>>15272759

>gothic in anything above mid or high

>>15270525

They're trash, all isometric CRPGs are trash. Lots of manlets have trouble coming to terms with this fact but that's on them.

>>15272716

The first fallout is also better written and bit more cohesive than 2

>>15272226

>Where are some modern games?

oh child

there really aren't that many decent modern ones

try out Divinity Original Sin, Underrail, and Age of Decadence

>>15273265

>defending 4chan tier infographic

>s-stop trying to fit in, 4cuck!!!

>>15273325

Deus Ex is also an overrated game. At the time it might have been impressive, but what still stands today? All it has going for itself are the illuminati conspiracies. Combat is, like you said, clunky to say the least. There are no actual choices in the game until the very end except for little things like

>way 1: use swimming to pass

>way 2: use vent ducts instead

A game is supposed to be a game. If story is all it has going for it, then it might as well be a movie or a VN.

>>15273315

Your post is terminal cancer. Fuck off back to >>>/cuckchan/.

>>15273337

And I never said it wasn't a good game. But, the real fitting in is that one underage retard that says

>Morrowind is one of the greatest games of all time!!

Hoping that his opinion goes along with the "/v/ hivemind" instead of appreciating it as the slightly above average, buggy, easily exploitable, and slightly dumbed down from Daggerfall video game that it is.

Fuck off, you literal retard.

>>15273340

>there are no actual choices until the very end

The whole game is about tackling the missions however you see fit with the tools the game gives you. Stealth/Combat, Lethal/Non-Lethal, Guns/Melee/Explosives, Augs/No Augs, the game gives you different options about how to complete each objective without railroading you. For a guy who said that gameplay is all that matters you sure are focusing on the story lacking choice.

>>15273429

Honestly, the swish swish whack meme is the only redeeming part of Morrowind's combat to me. That, and the directional hits that made you think for a few more seconds. Everything else about the combat was pretty bland. Redeeming features of Morrowind are the lore, story, atmosphere, music, world design, and sandbox capabilities.

All I'm arguing is that it doesn't deserve to be placed over Gothic and Fallout: New Vegas.

>>15273443

I thought the directional hits were a good thing in theory but in practice I only ever did chops anyway. They should have had it like M&B did with the mouse/camera controlling the blow instead.

You're right in that it shouldn't be above those games, but I think the unique aspects of the story and atmosphere put it on par with them.

>>15273429

The problem is that people complain about it without understanding the actual function of it. If you take Skyrim and break it down:

Low Level Enemy:

>70 HP

>20 damage

High Level Enemy:

>7000 HP

>200 damage

On the other hand, in Morrowind:

Low Level Enemy:

>70 HP

>20 damage

High Level Enemy:

>700 HP

>70 damage

The reason the game works like this is because of the 'swish-swish' combat. The game makes use of attributes and skills in a major way, because it employs 'to-hit' chance rather than raw damage as a basis of calculation. The result is that the latter games have a massive amount of Hit Point bloat, turning enemies into effective bullet-sponges. The amount of input you provide to the game - in terms of clicking - is no different, and in most cases, it will take you more swings to take down your average Dragon than even one of the tanky bosses, like Bear Hircine or Karstaag. Morrowind's system supports PCs and NPCs alike, whereas both Oblivion and Skyrim have had to dramatically bloat NPC statistics in order to maintain a degree of artificial difficulty. When asked what is more unrealistic - for your sword-swings to not damage the opponent, or for

Is it a perfect system? Fuck no. But the same people who criticize it have zero problem ignoring the fact that the only RPGs which have manage to do better are games that don't have a leveling mechanic. If you changed the game to replace the "whish" sounds from a miss with clanking against armor or whatever, you'd alleviate half of the problems. It's a relic of the times that it didn't happen.

The only unforgivable thing that Morrowind does in combat terms is, due to the transfer to the XBox, it changed the directional inputs from the Daggerfall mouse swings to movement based inputs. The more pressing problems are the things that got cut out - the ability to climb walls, namely, though there are a few other factors involved. But the real kicker is that people in these threads have the audacity like the dumb niggers they are to say that of these games have good combat. They fucking don't. Not even Mountain Blade. Especially not even fucking Gothic.

>>15270525

>lots of choices but railroads you anyway

examples? I found them to be much more freeform than say, VtM:B which literally has lots of choices and none of them matter. e.g. you can tell off certain story characters and they don't whip your ass then and there. compare to KOTOR where you piss off the bounty hunter in the first section and he kills you without hesitation

>>15273578

>examples?

a good example is the first 3 chapters, you're very much railroaded into going after Irenicus regardless of whether or not you care about Imoen who wasn't really a vital character in the first game and you could tell her to fuck off

>>15273683

>the exposition to a game is railroading

mongoloids dislike CRPGs. not an earth-shattering revelation here

>>15273831

He must dislike Icewind Dale then. Fucking plebs.

I have been playing Divinity Original Sin 2 lately and I am enjoying it but one thing I liked better in the first one is the system of having 2 main characters that you make. Then you can role play multiple people and getting different buffs depending on how you role played was cool but it kinda made it so that you had to play a character with a certain personality to get the best out of it.

But I like the different races they add in 2, its pretty cool being an undead death knight beast using warrior, necro and a lil polymorph skills.

>>15273831

to go further, after the open theme park of chapter 2, you then have to go to pirate island, spellhold and only then do you have the choice of doing fish city or going straight to underdark, the game becomes very linear very fast, but to give it credit it does open back up later on

it's not nearly as free form as say fallout

Linearity isn't bad though as long as it's tightly crafted and you're given good reason for said linearity.

>>15273945

nah, the Icewind Dale games are the best of the infinity engine games, I'd take them over BG any day of the week

>>15270645

You're a fucking minmaxing autist. Just accept that and move on. Fact is, one doesn't need outside sources to learn the mechanics in those particular games. Their tooltips and in-game info is enough. I'm more interested in knowing what the fuck were you doing before the internet spoonfed you this shit.

>>15273291

Hit% is an abstraction, you're supposed to imagine both of you are skillfully dodging those attacks, it's actually a really intense battle in my mind.

>>15274752

>Nox

>play Wizard campaign

>no sense of resource management or player attrition at all

>constant backtracking to mana crystals, might as well just give the player regen health

It's weak as fuck for a dungeon crawler

VTMB is mid tier at best. I never understood why that game is so highly regarded when it isn't even good. I can ignore shit gameplay if the game has something going for it like an interesting world, interesting characters or good progression, but VTMB has none of that. Morrowind should be flipped with Daggerfall or have Daggerfall upgraded to god tier and MW downgraded to high tier. Gothic 2 deserves god tier.

Risen 2 was no where close to the lowest you could get. The writing was great and the characters were charming. World was also pretty beautiful. I'd put that game at mid tier or low tier.

How is the Icewind Dale series? Has anyone here played it?

>>15276329

They're pretty good provided you realize it's a straight forward dungeon crawler where you kill lots of shit, it's very much a combatfag game as opposed to a storyfag game

>>15275858

>I have an opinion

wew

>>15276329

No, literally nobody in the history of gaming has played IWD.

>>15275842

Sorry, Germany isn't all of Europe.

>>15273732

It's meant to give people who are new to the genre an idea of what games to try out first, which ones to play after that if they still want more, and what games to avoid altogether. OP's chart does a decent job at that(though M&M 6 needs to be in God tier and Diablo II, Morrowind, Daggerfall, Albion, and Silver all need to be in high tier.) Also ranking video games tickles your autism sensors.

>>15275746

In Nox at least stuff could kill you and you had to git gud to play successfully. And it had actual good PvP.

In, say, Diablo 2, you just run a powergaming build and good gear and you can't lose. Play necromancer and even the gear is optional.

>>15279079

Not much, though I suggest getting the systempack.

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-%C2%BD-%C2%97-SystemPack-(ENG-DEU)

>>15270452

Death Knights of Krynn is the best gold box game and needs to be bumped up.

>>15279095

>scalefag

Why do you live?

I honestly do not get what makes New Vegas any better than Fallout 3. I've put like ~20 hours into it at various points. Fallout 3 was pretty garbage but had an alright time with it at least at release despite all its problems. With NV I never really got into it I guess and it felt pretty much the same as 3 as far as the clunky combat and generally thinking why am I bothering with this.

Is/are the RP/story elements really that good? Do you have to just wait for the good parts?

>>15272765

Putting aside how silly it is to try and divide dozens of games which wildly differ from each other in various aspects into linear set tiers which don't even describe which aspect tbey're using to divide these games into tiers to begin with, I believe that Gothic should be at least in the same tier, if not higher than Morrowind.

I remember the two strongest aspects of Morrowind were its worldbuilding and its atmosphere, which is propped up by the worldbuilding and music. But Gohic also has very good atmosphere, and on top of that it's better in terms of skill abstraction. Take swordfighting for example; in Morrowind, low swordfighting skill is represented by the infamous whoosh whoosh, which is disliked because the swinging animation is the same. Meanwhile in Gothic, when you're shit at swordfighting, you swing your sword like a retarded nigger, and gaining skill levels makes you swing with more finesse. It shows that more competent people worked on it.

>>15279545

just you wait pNp-sports is going to become a thing!

>>15279084

Start with the 3rd then move on to the 4th. You might be a bit put off with the later's graphics tho. Avoid 6 and 7 and play 5 if you really want to. Play the 2nd one if you want a slower homm experience and don't touch the 1st.

>>15270452

How the fuck is Fallout 2 in God Tier? It is inferior ehash of the original Falout made as quick cash grab.

>>15279084

Did you mean to ask about the Might and Magic games? They're RPGs, but the HoMM games are turnbased strategy. I don't know much about them, desu.

>>15276451

Damn. So it's pretty much an aRPG? Had some pretty high hopes for the series.

>>15279095

>Has anyone played the game?

It's a hidden gem and about 6 years ahead of its time. If you go play it now, it's very obvious that it was the basis for later gameplay of the late 90s like fallout and BG. It's very good, but it's really not that hard.

>>15279639

>So it's pretty much an aRPG?

No, it's still a crpg but one focused around going through a series of good dungeons

>>15279084

HoMM and MM are different things, MM are the blobbers, with those start with World of Xeen and move onwards

>>15279381

It's a game you play to get immersed into the world and witness the consequences of your actions. I really liked the level design for some of the vaults, the cities all feel well constructed, and the characters are all well written with their own motives.

If you're trying to play it like an open world Bethesda sandbox, you won't have a good time.

>>15279209

>Why do you live?

For the pussy of the embodiment of human fear and sin. What else?

>>15279381

>>>/v/15269416

>>>/v/15269421

>>15279833

E.Y.E. is a meme game, and I can prove it to you.

>>15270452

>That list

>Risen 2 in shit tier

Jokes on you I took it as an extra challenge to finish that terrible game no matter what and I ended up liking it a bit at the end.

>>15280713

probably is. retards start the game expecting to be able to just walk around and destroy everything without a fight and without ever leveling. all of the 'woosh woosh flail' comments are usually by retards who played for an hour or two and then gave up, not realizing that increasing your skill in whichever weapon, along with your agility and luck will increase your ability to hit. plus, you need your fatique to be full or high; if your fatique is empty, then you're going to miss a fuckton.

normalniggers and skyrim kiddies don't ever attempt to learn any of this because they're too busy sucking dick.

>>15279625

>>15279632

>>15279780

Oh yeah, my bad. I guess I'm more interested in the blobbers.

So the 4th, Darkside of Xeen is a good starting point for those? Thanks.

>>15281102

yeah, you want the World of Xeen package though which is 4+5 bundled together since they're two parts of the whole

>>15282336

The writing is nice but I like the Exile games primarily for the mechanics. They're all the good stuff pulled out of the top-down Ultima games and refined.

Whats the best one that I can play comfortably with a controller?

>>15273291

what is wrong about roleplaying as a retard that cant use a sword to save his life?

I've been playing Torment: Tides of Numenera, and it's kinda OK. I'm also playing through Planescape: Torment and I will say that Morte and The Nameless One are a hell of a lot more memorable than anyone from Numenera. Plus the way that checks are done in Numenera is kinda stupid. Fail a 60% chance and you're fucked until someone can teach you to shit harder or whatever.

I'm just gonna leave this here as source for >>15279545

https://archive.fo/eRrzn

https://www.thenerdmag.com/obsidian-entertainment-might-be-acquired-by-microsoft-according-to-a-letter-of-intent/

>Obsidian Entertainment might be acquired by Microsoft according to a letter of Intent

>Obsidian Entertainment is a relatively small American game developer based out of Irvine, California. The company was founded in 2003 and has currently about 170 employees working for it. The company has developed some notable games throughout its short history, the most popular being Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II – The Sith Lords, Fallout: New Vegas and South Park: The Stick of Truth. The company has managed to develop some 15 games in its short-lived history and a new phase is about to commence since rumors have been flying around of a possible acquisition of Obsidian Entertainment by the tech giant Microsoft.

>>15282781

What the stats mean is completely different from game to game. 10 str in fallout is max strength while 10 might in might and magic is pussy level strength.

>>15284039

A better site listing console commands than the first one I looked at clarified that PlaceAtPC also works for NPC's. I solved it.

>>15284039

>Why walk when you can hide?

>>15284573

pickpocketing is broken, just savescum until it eventually works

How is Arcanum god tier when it has horrible dungeon and enemy design with a retarded dumb combat? And you are pretty much forced to experience all these crap because quests give less exp than 10 generic random wolves while companions and summons doesn't count on the exp gain even though when they depend on the player character to level.

>>15284659

Charts have been fucked in recent years when faggots decided to step up and make their own based off of anonymous testimonials and ironic shitposts. Generally it's a good idea to ignore them.

>>15284724

In a simple sense, big number = good.

Dicerolls work depending on the weapon. For example:

>Shitty Sword - 1d4 damage

means damage is calculated by rolling one four-sided die. The lowest you'll hit is 1 while the highest you'll hit is 4.

>Good Sword of Swording - 2d6

means damage is calculated by rolling two six-sided die. The lowest you'll hit is 2, the highest would be 12.

Strength can only act as a modifier. Shit strength will take damage away, good strength adds to it. That depends on the game. Generally it will say if it adds something like "+2" or some shit based on a chart that you can't see.

>>15284819

>In a simple sense, big number = good

It's the opposite in the early version of D&D. You wanted your THAC0, to hit armor class 0, value to be as low as possible, and preferrably negative. After you've rolled your 1-20 dice in the attack roll, the roll is compared to the THACO minus the armor class of the defender. If the roll is above or equal to this figure, or if you roll a perfect 20, it's a hit. The attacker wants the THACO low as that makes the combined figure lower and easier to break. Conversely, the defender wants a negative armor class since that makes the figure higher, minus minus becomes plus.

>>15282781

Look up the wiki for the game you're interested in, dude. Easy to learn.

>>15282781

if only there were things like manuals or wikis you could read

>>15281176

What's the best way to play Exile nowadays? I've heard it doesn't work on modern Windows. Does it run under Windows XP or do I need 95/98?

>>15284869

>THAC0

yeah get fucked, nobody gives a shit about thaco

I just beat DA2 for the first time, and people weren't kidding, this is bioware at their lowest, every dungeon, cave, and warehouse is the exact same.

>>15284914

Runs fine on XP, the reason it's busted on 64-bit Windows is Microsoft removed the 16-bit Windows-on-Windows compatibility layer. Exile II and III also run good on Wine. The first game used to run perfectly but some sort of pulseaudio update or something introduced a problem a while back.

>>15284990

Baldur's Gate does, lad.

>>15282781

What exactly the numbers mean is different from game to game. Generally a higher number is better, but there might be exceptions in older games. Not all games follow the D&D rules, so learning those will only be useful for D&D-based games.

I'll let you in on a little secret: unless you are trying to powergame your stats are not that important. Just find out what the range of values is (e.g. 6-18, or 1-100) and then build the character around what your idea of it would be (i.e. when making a fighter focuse strength and stamina, not intelligence). Min-maxing the perfect character only matters if you want to play on the highest difficult or if you are going for a special challenge (like playing a game with a party system solo).

What's a good RPG to start with? I don't know, the genre is so large that its sub-genres are entire genres of their own. I'm just going to throw out some suggestions, but there is a ton of other games you could start with:

> Infinity Engine series

Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale in particular. Planescape Torment plays like shit, it's the type of game you play for the story. BG1 is not that great in hindsight, needs some modding first to get it up to standard. BG2 starts out at higher levels (it is a direct sequel to the first game), so that might be a bit overwhelming. The Icewind Dale game are a good entry, but they are mostly about combat, the party characters are all player-made and have no interaction.

> Divine Divinity

A single-player action-RPG. It looks like Diablo, but it's a real RPG with an overworld. The beginning is pretty tedious though: you are stuck with a dungeon that goes on forever and has just skeletons. Once you make it past that you are good to go

> Nox

Another action RPG, although more action than RPG.

> King's Bounty: The Legend (and Armored Princess)

Mostly a tactics game with RPG elements

>Deus Ex, System Shock II

RPGs that play like FPS. Reward methodical exploration, resource management and thinking before jumping in head-first.

>>15284724

Start with a modern game such as F:NV and then play the older Fallouts, this is enough for you to get the general logic behind the genre.

To get what stats and what they mean and limits It's recommended that you read the manual (a must on older games), but it varies from game to game and system to system. Might and Magic goes to bullshit levels soon and consistency doesn't matter while Arcanum stays more grounded with stats limit being on the 20 and 8 being the start for a regular human. In general, if you are a warrior you put on strenght, just follow as it goes and it will be fine.

And you really shouldn't start with D&D crpgs unless you have a good grasp of the tabletop mechanics or you are going to be dealing with shit like >>15284869.

>>15285161

>Start with a modern game such as F:NV and then play the older Fallouts

Ignore this turbofaggot and play Worlds of Ultima: Martian Dreams.

>>15284573

either use openMW, or install the morrowind code patch. both fix the pickpocketing issue; in the base game, it's broken, as >>15284628 said.

you should really be using one of those anyway. openMW is easy to install and use, many anons recommend it. i use regular MW + the code patch, here's a link to both. also despite what some autists say, the code patch works fine with cracked exes.

https://github.com/OpenMW/openmw

https://www43.zippyshare.com/v/aKJ6yElf/file.html

first link openMW, second link to the code patch.

>>15285079

>A shit game cares about a shit mechanic

>>15284819

Interesting.

>>15284869

Guess I'll have to do that.

>>15285085

>Min-maxing the perfect character only matters if you want to play on the highest difficult

So this tactic would make the game easier?

>>15285161

>>15285180

I'll try these out.

>>15285773

> So this tactic would make the game easier?

Well, sort of. You have to keep in mind that making an ideal character is not as simple as "pump everything into one stat", so it requires a lot of experimentation. That alone makes it harder in a meta-sense to me. You might also need the extra optimization if you want to beat a game the way it was not designed to. I mean something like vid related: the game expects you have a party of six, but this guy does fights this boss alone.

So whats the verdict on pillars 2? I had a good time with the first one, combat was generally pretty good minus the overload of copy/pasted trash mobs. Story and writing weren't bad either. I heard on launch it had a lot of serious issues which is why I'm hesitant about 2. Now that that the DLC is out is the game worth giving a try?

>>15270452

>classics like Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic, Icewind Dale

Empty sandboxes with shit filler story, all of them. Western devs cannot write good stories, they can only ripoff whatever setting is sucessfull until the bubble bursts.

>new games like Divinity and Pillars of Eternity

Shit games with added progressive agenda.

>>15285085

>>Deus Ex, System Shock II

>RPGs that play like FPS. Reward methodical exploration, resource management and thinking before jumping in head-first.

First person shooters diluted with useless stats to extend playtime. Whose actual combat is terrible, in particular with stealth implemented so hastily it devolves into quicksave key rape. And all their lauded story is just listening to mp3s whie you play.

What you think are late 90s classics, is actually early clickbait articles which taught lies to a generation.

why hasn't Underrail been mentioned yet?

>>15287347

Because it's a shitty singleplayer dungeon crawler with fetch quests ala WoW?

>>15287347

because while pretty good for an indie game it has some massive problems

namely fetch quest design, slow/useless walking across a ton of near empty maps, a crafting system that seems cool but is really just "get better rated competent for an extra 3 damage/protection", a really annoying merchant setup, and the game starts to drag by levels 12-15 where combat becomes very samey of "activate shield, use special abilities, wait for cooldown and repeat" and the game fails to grab you or make sense of why you're doing what you're doing

still it's a pretty solid game and better than most of the current competition

>>15288000

>Cast 100x Jump on self for one second

>Read Scroll of Icarian Flight

>Press Space

>>15294181

You're not going to be able to self-enchant good stuff without modding. You can permanently enchant almost anything, but you need to have a grand soul gem with either a Golden Saint or Ascended Sleeper soul. The best reason to level up and use enchanting is how large the difference between unskilled and maxed out enchanting is when it comes to charge expenditure and recharging efficiency. The most spectacular use of this is using the Vampiric Ring and the Black Hands Dagger, both of which become almost usable at will.

>>15295041

You don't need to need every single fucking rule in the book to "wrap your head" around the system to play a cRPG. The amount of stuff you need to know is less than your typical current year MMO.

Are any good cRPGs coming out during the remainder of the year? Is there anything good to look forward to?

Can you change your face in OpenMW without resetting your characters stats and lvl?

I used the "EnableRaceMenu" command and I thought it would be fine if I only changed hair and face while leaving my race, but it didn't work and reset everything else to the basics. After some quick googling it should work in vanilla.

>>15295342

This. There are only a few pages related to the D&D rules in the manual; in my copy of the Baldur's Gate II manual it's about 5 pages, and you could condense if to even less if you wanted to. Things like tables and descriptions of spells are for reference, you are not expected to memorize them.

>>15299943

they have an in-game description for spells and the like too

I think the only thing that you needed to understand right away was you want low armor class and low THAC0 which the manual would explain or simple experimentation in the first dungeon when you get the starting equipment

I still miss big beefy manuals though

Geneforge is high tier. I recommend the graphic mod

Two worlds 2 is low tier? Wouldn't it be shit tier?

>>15300376

but that's exactly how you're supposed to talk to people in real life.