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Ross Scott did a video talking about these inconsistencies pretty well. Like the game was likely either intended to be a sequel, or a standalone game, but then they decided to call it a Deus Ex Prequel at the last minute and ship it.

>>15262926

>likely either intended to be a sequel, or a standalone game

Well he never said that. He said it seems like they wanted to make a cyberpunk game in their own universe but couldn't.

Star Wars: Republic Commando made wookies 10 foot tall behemoth, among other differences, because they made things cooler. I was fine with that, and I'm fine with this.

>>15263052

That's a stylistic change.

HR has a shitload of changes that go beyond simple style.

I want to gently Malik's

>>15262855

I don't even consider HR to be in the same universe as the original. Everything that made the original great is thrown out the window, the whole setting is ridiculous bullshit about cyborg racism, and you don't even get the option to take sides save for, at the end "pick A, B, or C". It's obviously meant to be a separate series, but it got thrown under "Deus Ex" due to marketing.

>>15262926

it was already stated by the devs they did it because they felt that modern technology was already more advanced than deus ex. I think they missed the point that it's not supposed to be super advanced, that's part of the appeal, it's relatable but with some clear advances.

>>15262855

Fact : Original Deus Ex is completely uninterested in science fiction, prefers conspiracies, and would have worked just as well if the augmentations were some kind of supernatural ability. HR is decidedly sci-fi before anything else, and this is why they clash.

>>15263888

> Original Deus Ex is completely uninterested in science fiction

Plotwise maybe, plenty of scifi in it's themes

Difference is that Deus Ex is still grounded in reality while HR goes full fantasy SciFi.

See >>15262926

>>15263888

Except for the androids.

And the nanomachines vs mechanical augmentations.

And the Dragon Tooth Sword.

And the Plasma Cannon.

And all the Robots.

And the Plague.

And all the several AIs that play major key roles in the game.

You're conflating the style of something being futuristic with science fiction. Both games went hard on science fiction, making huge amounts of their plot and world building based around fictituous elements that were justified in a scientific manner in-game.

The difference is that Deus Ex plays the entire plot of "it's just another form of controlling the masses" as much as it could possible played and then some more, exploring every angle, every consequence, every solution, every way it could be done and everyone who could play a role in it. And despite all that, it's remarkably neutral in how it portrays everything since it tries it's best to make every aproach seem sensible to a degree.

Meanwhile, Human Revolution boils it down specifically about the main character's story, every consequence is mostly to do with him and how it affects him. Everything else feels a lot like background stuff that's there for flavor. Oh, people are losing their jobs because of mechanical augmentation? I guess that's bad… But check out this dude being cyberracist to Adam! Wooo! Bad!

It's not the extra futuristic look that makes it look more retarded, it just genuinely is a lot more simple than the first game because of how shallow everyone and everything is, with clearly not as much effort fleshing it all out.

If Deus Ex was a detective movie, where the motives of the human psyche are explored in paralell with finding the weapon, motive and murderer, Human Revolution is an action movie, where it's all about the main character shooting everyone that plays a role in his tragic backstory.

I guess private sector does get the better toys

>>15263954

I think they are strong transwomen of color now.

The target audience for human revolution were too young to have played the original Deus Ex.

>>15262855

It makes perfect sense. JC Denton was an agent handled by people who cared a lot about secrecy. Adam Jensen was a disgraced ex-cop who was used as a goon by goons. The stealthy guy gets the stealthy ride and the goon gets the loud, conspicuous, balls-to-the-walls ride.

>>15262855

The only thing I liked in HR was the piss filter and then they removed it.

HR is set in a golden age. DE is set during a depression. No, it doesn't really fix everything, but there's your answer.

>>15264248

why the fuck did you like that?

>>15264443

A lot of people liked it actually. The original game had the piss filter and people made a reshade to take it out. They released the Director's Cut and removed it, and people made a reshade to add it back in. There are a lot of confused people out there.

>>15263070

fuck

pussy

>>15264456

The whole game was designed around the piss filter, so you can't really get rid of it without the game feeling off. As for me sometimes when it snows, it's a heavy fog at night all the streets looks like it's covered in a much more orange piss filter so I always felt it matched the mood of the backalleys.

>>15263950

>>15263888

>Deus Ex is still grounded in reality

>Deus Ex is completely uninterested in science fiction

How high does a nigger have to be able to actually believe this shit?

>>15264462

>Designed around a piss filter

The only thing that makes your statement even mildly correct is the fact the cutscenes are done in piss filter and "technically" Detroit I guess. Otherwise your statement is wrong. The piss filter doesn't belong in Hong Kong, Panchea, and Montreal. The reason the piss filter makes any sense in Detroit, and in your example, is because of the ambient lighting from street lights and buildings. Even then your example is incredibly suspect since the only reason you get that "piss filter" in real life is the fog + said ambient light and there is hardly any fog present in Deus Ex. In real life you would only get your piss filter if you looked at specific areas at specific times under specific conditions, the intensity of the piss filter is completely out of place in the game.

>>15264487

It was a "golden age". It's symbolism an shit.

>>15262855

>there is only 1 type of helicopter in the entire world.

>>15264516

Don't pretend it's anything other than what it really is: a graphical crutch for the game on consoles.

>>15264542

how does a filter make the game look better on consoles?

>>15264547

>make the game look better

Filters have always been used to make various games RUN better on consoles, not look better. Fallout 3 is another notorious example of this. The filter basically drowns out the detail of the image preventing the player from making out graphical shortcomings.

>>15264551

I don't get it.

Malik was actually a fully realized character and that chopper was cute and stealthy

>>15264516

Isnt it supposed to be what Adam Jensen is seeing because of his glasses?

>>15264579

Ah, I kinda see that.

>>15264575

Then why is it present in the beginning?

>>15264621

Even then his glasses were probably given a yellow tint as a cop out late in development.

>>15264579

>it objectively more difficult for the human eye to make out the details

This is why we need The Master.

>>15264573

Whenever I heard Sarif I thought about Garfield for some reason. Just something about the accent, and the way he says "Aaaadaaam"

>>15262926

>EVEN IN DEY-OOS EX THIS ISNT AN ISSUE

>>15263888

Who the fuck let 4chan in?

>>15264642

That guy was one of my favorite parts of Human Revolution, it sucks he got black balled simply because he believes the Illuminati is watching him, there are successful actors in Hollywood who are FAR more fucked up than he is.

>Gov agency uses reliable transportation

>Private company blows cash on flashy shit

Only thing missing is page flying around in some kind of spaceship.

This thread is bad

Here's a better topic:

>Have fun baton swinging

>Replace with gay takedowns

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

>>15264775

This and the /v/natco thread are putting me in the mood for a 2nd play through. I haven't touched the game in 2 years. Maybe I should wait a little more until I forget enough about the game and it feels like a somewhat fresh experience again.

>>15264834

don't replay games in the same 10 year span unless it's to get good at them. since deus ex has a very low skill ceiling there is no point and you'll have no surprises.

>>15264841

Not sure if that's bait or not, but it's actually a good point. Maybe I'll wait another few years. Meanwhile, I'll give the System Shock series another try. System Shock 2 disappointed the hell out of me because I played it almost immediately after beating Deus Ex, but maybe I'll feel better about it this time. Only thing I really hated was the seemingly infinite spawn of enemies. Really annoying.

>>15264841

>you'll have no surprises

You'd actually be surprised. I never even knew there was a hidden room in the prologue until I played it a second time. The sheer amount of hidden rooms surprised me.

>>15264879

there's mods to disable respawning enemies but the problem is it's a survival horror, when you clear a deck and there's nothing to deal with what the fuck is there to survive from?

Personally speaking I think you need to have a level of tolerance for mediocre game play to enjoy shock2, none of the enemies are really challenging and none of the weapons or psi feels really good to use, so it just may not be for everyone. If you haven't yet play Bioshock 2 and Thief Gold & The Metal Age.

>>15264954

that's not the kind of surprise I'm talking about. Hearing Manderley call you out for going into the women's bathroom won't carry an entire 20 hour playthrough.

>>15264723

>it sucks he got black balled simply because he believes the Illuminati is watching him

Doesn't this kind of prove that they are?

>>15264541

what if we turned all the niggers into orcs?

>>15264573

I liked Malik,

Remember how good it was to control JC and play around with all the tools and abilities given to you?

Let's make nearly everything that would be remotely cool or fun be contextual!

>>15265227

i remeber killing a female hobo and watching her tit squish against the ground and thinking that was kind of hot

>>15264979

>Appear crazy as shit so it may be a liability to hire you

>Find it hard to get a job

Solid argument friend.

>OG Deus Ex

Redpills about capitalism, social democracies, international finance

>Jewus Ex Franchise™

Robot racism is bad goyim

All you need to know.

There are a lot of sequels and remakes that wouldn't get shit on as a standalone game if the devs hadn't been money grubbing jews and tried tying it to an older game with a great legacy for more sales.

DXHR is one of them. (except for the gay ass ending buttons)

>>15265282

You know, when I had shit going wrong with me at my last job, they had me go to the doc and they worried about me instead of firing me and making sure nobody hired me after that, and I'm a fucking nobody with no unique talents.

>>15264723

>he believes the Illuminati is watching him

That was a bit for a comedy site he did for a friend.

>>15266693

Then I'm genuinely curious why no one has hired him, and what the fuck did the Eidos Montreal people mean in the Human Revolution commentary when they seemed to allude to him being crazy?

>the original deus ex is just as fantasy, as it is scifi

nu/v/ opinion: discarded

>>15263070

Now hol up

>>15263954

Canonically they are 8 foot tall murdering machines that can rip the arms off a person. So like, a discrepancy of two feet.

this doesnt feel like a huge stretch.

>>15262855

>HR has cute brown tomboy as pilot

>MD replaces her with two ugly nigger sidekicks

>on top of beating you over the head with BLM apologism

I hope the franchise stays dead for good.

>>15262855

It is good to have disdain for revisionism. The precums are made by a caliber of individuals that can hardly tie their shoes.

>>15265115

That would be disrespectful to orcs. Much like attempting to make them an analog for higher primates. They have far too much ingenuity, for one. And not being an evolutionary dead end, is another.

>>15267344

Maybe they found out he voted for trump?