/v/ - Video Games

what are the maps/worlds I can open with Brutal Doom? Do they even exist? Or should I just play the mods independently?

I like blood

>>15257693

My suggestion is: Stop playing bad mods.

>>15259647

i accept the bullying i have coming because i deserve it

>>15258177

>>15258051

Are there better mods that remove the bullet sponge and add more gore to vanilla doom then? Because vanilla doom is a fucking unplayable boring shit.

>>15259958

We got BNW, UK got 1984, Asia got whatever Cyberpunk, and Africa got Ebola

>>15259992

What did South America get? Irrelevance?

>>15260022

Mad max.

>>15260171

>>15259992

I just got Serious Sam 1 and 2 after years of writing it off a cheap Duke Nukem clone with slightly better graphics. Also the Painkiller series is great.

>>15261527

It's too gruesome for me. I prefer mods without violence.

>>15256421

dont post a penis

>>15257693

You could try loading any mapset that doesn't change enemies, player or weapons via either Dehacked, Decorate, ZScript.

>>15261527

Brutal Doom has a combination of some nifty stuff but I don't care much for anything else it has.

>>15261831

if you repeat something long enough you start to believe it, even if you didnt at first

>>15261852

What the hell are you even trying to say.

>>15261861

extrapolate and then take it to the extreme, as you tend to do anyways

>>15261831

as I said I already played vanilla doom and it's easy to say that BD version is objectively better. Aiming with the mouse is a dead give away. Unless you are stuck in nostalgia goggles, I see no reason to play upgraded version of Doom.

Also you admit the hate bandwagon is because casuals use it and that's it.

BTW can you explain me "Stalker complete" thing?

>>15261881

>Aiming with the mouse is a dead give away.

But you can aim with the mouse without BD. Do you actually know anything about Doom and Doom modding?

>>15259562

>implying LTSB 2016 isn't orders of magnitude better than shitlib linux

>implying its a botnet

>implying you're too fucking retarded and/or poor for LTSB 2016

>>15262015

>>15262007

I know, didn't I mention I played GZdoom way before BD? That's why I liked GZ for the sake of aiming.

>BD adds useless bullshit

I can kinda agree on that, I only use BD because gunplay is smoother than GZdoom. I don't even care about gore and stuff

>>15262031

> there are plenty of other mods that try to improve it and do an overall better job, right?

I'll add that some of them are even in the guide in the OP.

>>15262031

>Then why the fuck did you attribute it to BD you fucking retard?

sorry I forgot please no bully :c

>You know there are plenty of other mods that try to improve it and do an overall better job, right?

can you tell me the mods? any "megawads" would do the job right?

I really hope the turboautist lolcow doesn't shit up this thread as well.

>>15262127

But he seems to actually want to talk about him.

>>15261881

Beautiful Doom or Smooth Doom would be upgraded versions of Doom, Brutal is a new game that happens to share most of it's assets.

>Also you admit the hate bandwagon is because casuals use it and that's it.

Hating something for the people it brings is perfectly valid.

>BTW can you explain me "Stalker complete" thing?

Same basic deal. Mod advertises itself as an improvement but alters both gameplay and tone, gets media attention, bringing in a flood of new players who played the mod before the base game and imposed their skewed view of what the game is on the existing community.

Much like you get people trying to run other gameplay mods on top of Brutal Doom, you would get people trying to run other mods on top of Complete.

>>15262190

Why did this post get deleted?

>>15262594

It seems other posts were deleted, too, like

>>15262031

Looks like a deletion by ID.

>>15262127

Back to the gay sea, my man.

>>15263180

If you're using GZDoom or ZDoom or prboom, or chocolate doom, or…, you should be able to explore the myriad of settings these offer, including mouse settings.

Anyone got ideas what I should try with trailblazer?

Finished btsx e1 with uv-respawn, want something else

Also did sunlust with uv earlier, last stage was impossible on my computer thanks to gzdoom though.

>>15261527

Project Brutality at least has options to allow play style to be something akin to the original.

>>15263277

Youtube deleted the gay swamp anon.

>>15263277

I repeat, go back to KC.

>>15263547

Looks pretty, maybe have a sector between the foggy orange one and the black room for better transition.

>>15263589

I'll keep it in mind if I ever start really mapping.

>>15263180

BD doesn't change mouse settings at all. You're either experiencing a placebo effect or you did something else when using BD.

>>15263836

no I mean I can aim with GZdoom and all but it feels kinda slow, like there is some sort of lag between each shot. BD just feels a bit better when it comes to running and gunning. I will try some other mods tho.

GZDoom Builder 2 > Slade

Is Pillowblaster a furfag?

>>15271416

No idea, he posts like twice a year at most with just a screenshot or two.

>>15258177

Try Burl Tumd, then. It's like Babel in terms of gunplay, but every gun is changed up.

Kinsie's updated MetaDoom.

>>15278579

>signs point to yes

>>15279240

What's the mod?

>>15283613

>makes a mod better than the base game

But that's not Babel

>>15283613

Thanks, Mark

>>15283613

Mark, nobody here cares about your shit mod. Go away.

>>15285183

TMI, faggot

Get well soon

>>15283613

Plus Mark hates niggers.

>>15286006

If he does, then why did he include them as friendly npcs in his megawad?

Any brutal doom addons/alternatives worth playing? maps included

>>15287067

Project Brutality isn't good simply because its impossible for Brutal Doom to be good. No matter how well you mod it, you will never go beyond mediocre.

>>15288723

>brootle

It's *brutal

What kind of retarded autocorrect is your 3rd world mobile device equipped with?

>>15277225

>still no links since >>15258248 asked

>>15292287

>Doom fanfiction

I must know. I'm of course familiar with John and his tragic fate, but are there any other famous ones?

>>15293320

>Sonic DooM

>By: FuckinMetal

>Shadow the hedgehog plays the doom marine in this crossover of Sonic/Doom

I'm not making this up. 3rd result for "DOOM" on fanfiction. Just 556 words though.

Where's the dilbert 3 mod?

>>15292381

>>15258248

http://www.filedropper.com/burltumd

>>15293662

It was totally unremarkable.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12401418/1/Sonic-DooM

Why is there always so much drama in these Doom threads?

>>15261527

>>15261881

>>15262401

>>15263180

>>>/reddit/

>>>/cuckchan/

The absolute state of the Doom community, right here.

>>15293763

Because there isn't enough porn to drown it out.

>>15293397

Yeah, not seeing it.

>>15293967

I'd kinda welcome that, but then we'd have some sorta tension between developers that are here to develop, as few as they are, and porn artists.

>>15261831

Sorry, but I beat the first 3 episodes of "Ultimate Doom" until I switched to BD for the 4-th. The experience I got from playing BD was far greater, due to the sheer catharsis and content it provided. However I do understand you grievances with it, though it seems more of a problem with the community than the project itself.

BTW, anyone "tried" H-doom? ;-)

>>15294558

>porn artists

Maybe if we actually had any they could team up with the devs.

Wasn't there a popular Doom sourceport that was going to add some kind of spyware?

>>15295000 (checked)

Stop playing doom with texture filtering you quadroon

>>15294995

Yeah, GZDoom, they removed it for the version after the spyware update, then announced they have plans to add it back at some point.

>>15295011

Well, fuck.

Any better source port? Ideally one that has quality and can run a decent amount of mods.

>>15295011

And what's stopping us from using a firewall to just block it from accessing the internet?

>>15295254

Nope. GZDoom is the only one you have, until you want to struggle with Zandro's BS. And it's not like you can't turn off spec collecting or anything. And it's not like it's not used for anything else, besides gauging how many people still use Win XP/32-bit system and/or OpenGL <3.0 for GZDoom.

>>15293320

You don't know the wonder of RagnaDOOM.

>>15295598

Ellucidate me

>>15295717

Autist made a cross-over web animation series of Ragnarok Online and Doom. It was pretty typical edgy teenager that loved anime shit. Then they started working on an actual wad for it. It wasn't every completed, but there exists a playable version.

>>15295406

<not at personal computer

>google picture of mod I created

>post picture

>>>/reddit/

-With regards,

t.𝓜𝓸𝓸𝓶𝓶𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓸𝓸𝓶 𝓪𝓷𝓸𝓷

>>15295000

>>15295009

Jesus dude, would you ever fuck off from these threads? You already made a complete fucking ass of yourself a few years ago when you wouldn't stop shilling Evolve, now you come here and CONTINUE to act like a complete autist.

Does anyone have a link to a Doom wad that was just one map with some purple filter, consisting of a city street, a sort of 7/11, and waves of enemies? It was on an old thread long time ago.

>>15301024

Your Doom wad sucks shit and you're a nigger faggot.

First time even looking at this shit because nostalgia(played doom online since 2006).

What the fuck is wrong with this general?

Everything is /b/ tier drama and autistic reaction images, has the Doom community fallen this low?

>>15261527

The same reason it ever got big in the first place, ironically. Intellectually lazy people would rather throw blame at the mod itself for infesting the community with underage b& rather than realizing than realizing these fuckers were always around and would've flocked to some other mod or sourceport regardless. In the end the fact of the matter is that a mod made by some random huezillian is better than half of all officially released Doom games. How fucked is that?

>>15303864

What's wrong with him?

What the fuck is Mark's email? I've got to message him and tell him the situation about this guy.

>>15304908

markthejanny@tutanota.com

He's been banned and his posts deleted. Sorry about the shitshow.

>>15305456

>Going Down

>DoomRLA

>Barrels 'O Fun

So does Ion Maiden count as a Retro FPS or is it considered a modern one because of its release date. It's made on a retro engine, but I'm not entirely sure if it's fit for this thread

>>15305600

Hmm, well what does everyone think of the game regardless? the demo was pretty fun

>>15296953

He's still spamming reports because he's so salty

>>15305583

If it's actually made in Build I'd say it counts but I've heard it misses the mark a lot in terms of level and weapon design. Never tried it myself though.

>>15305609

It's okay-ish, but it doesn't really do anything to set it apart from other Build games, and what it does do is just average.

>>15305656

I doubt it considering he hasn't made any maps in years.

>>15305292

God damn thank you so much

>>15305611

He's an easily butthurt ultratard, don't mind him.

>>15303814

I hope Doom Eternal is good. is looks better than Doom 4 at least.

>>15308576

>>>/cow/292842 Read this and let's be done with it. There's a reason he's not liked.

>>15305456

>Ancient Aliens

>too many good ones to choose from, but probably either Burl Tumd or Fractal Doom

>E1M9

>>15305456

DTWID and the spinoffs/sequels

I'm a big fan of any vanilla-enhacement stuff.

Map11 of Doom 2

>>15305611

Post them.

>>15293320

impse

It's a shame about the ending though.

>>15308732

I tried once to get high and play Ancient Aliens, but I didn't succeed due to being too stoned to focus my attention one one thing at a time.

Was a pity, but since I can't get weed where I am I'll just wait until I can go on holiday to a place where it's legal.

>>15305456

Hell Revealed

Led's Generic Weapons Mod

Map02 Underhalls

>>15309241

>thread is dead in the middle of the work day in NA without a jobless shitposter autismo

Yeah no shit, give it a few hours.

>>15309241

That's exactly what they wanted, to kill the thread.

>>15305643

Yeah, it's refreshing to see a game like it coming out. However as of right now I don't really see what separates Ion Maiden from something like Duke Nukem. I'd still like to see the Duke guys do something like the old days after this game. Maybe a Serious Sam spin off.

I'm starting to think that guy is proxyfagging now until his main IP is unbanned, he's obviously still spamming the reports.

>>15309374

It's been been there for years

Also

>those filters

Lookin' good

>>15309397

He's spamming the thread very obviously on /cow/, so I'd imagine he's doing the same thing here.

>>15309374

That's been there since the late 90's probably, it was meant for non-humans.

>>15309407

To be fair, pronoun for "Other" in GZDoom is "it".

>>15309396

Have you ever talked to him outside of these boards?

They're not that different from what veterans put out.

>>15295406

Is that a filter? It looks like video compression.

>>15309617

I've never made a map, so you're screaming at ghosts.

>>15305292

>>15309397

>>15296953

>>15296391

Wtf happened here? What did the little faggot do to stir up all your anuses?

>>15309649

He posted maps he was working on.

>>15309649

Sometimes there's no rhyme nor reason to internet cabals.

>>15309659

Dozens of posts about them, often belligerently.

>>15309675

One could argue that at least it's OC.

>>15309659

>>15309666

>>15309669

>>15309675

So he posts shit maps here expecting compliments and instead got his ass ripped open and starts sperging everywhere? Very nice.

>>15309689

I would.

>>15309675

Seems like an opinion

>>15309692

Think he was looking for criticism instead of bashing.

>>15309696

You're that guy aren't you?

>>15309675

Got link to any?

>>15309759

Check cuckchan /vr/. They still have his "LOTX" thing.

>>15308624

That link needs to be in the OP from now on.

>>15309840

>Actively inviting drama

>>15309845

It's a great, irrefutable way to show how fucking crazy he is. People who don't know about S'Arais outside of Doom threads have no idea how off the wall he is.

It is a way to invite drama, though. That's not something this thread needs more of.

>>15309856

Then ensure it doesn't. Clean up the mess.

>>15305583

This would be easier to figure out if there was an actual subgenre name for Retro FPS, because retro implies a certain time period thus isn't suitable for a genre as it can cause confusion with modern titles that contain Retro game mechanics. Classic doesn't work either.

>>15309543

You guess wrong. It's literally from Quake 3 where you have characters like Orbb or Klesk that aren't actually human and giving them "male" or "female" would be nonsensical. Same intent here. Not everything is political.

>>15309919

>Classic doesn't work either.

Why not? How about "traditional FPS"?

>>15309919

From a purely etymological standpoint retro can not refer to anything contemporary unless it's in the style of something old because it literally means "behind" or "backwards". Of course you could always just be a pedantic faggot and say anything not made in a vacuum is made with the past in mind to some degree but still.

>>15309976

Assuming that also includes the level design component it's probably decently accurate. Really what defined old FPS was

>maze levels with tons of secrets

>exploration-based health system (medkits)

>Lots of weapons and enemies with fast-paced combat (relative to today's average FPS)

I started with Brutal Doom and Project Brutality, but now I really like Bullet Eye, GMOTA, and Project MSX

>>15311361

She's cute tbh

I hope her movie makes lots of money

>>15313687

Okay let me rephrase, I hope the movie IS GOOD and makes lots of money

>>15314669

Mark does some of that in BD, but it looks pretty janky since it can hang over ledges. Maybe look into how it works there, if you can read BRcode.

>>15315216

Yeah, it looks like an episode 3 map of some sort.

I really need a bit of help. I've been playing this Doom wad called "The Archives Are Doomed" (tardgold.wad). I really liked the midi music for each of the levels. But I can't find the name of any of the music on Doomsworld forum or on YouTube. Any kind anon know any of the music?

>>15309764

>LOTX

Oh so it was THAT anon. I was wondering how come sone anon was openly suggesting people download his wads in 8/v/, when I'm pretty sure nobody here does that.

>>15315270

>hub based

I know this is a dumb suggestion but is it sort of like a start hub? (like the one in Quake 1)

>>15257738

Me too. I hope it never gets rebooted because it would probably be bad and break my heart.

>>15315317

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say it's Tei Tenga?

>>15315323

I think what bothers me the most is that every single one seems to feel like it needs a gun that either can be recharged or has unlimited ammo. Then since that's taking the niche of your melee weapon from the originals, they just make the melee weapon more or less an instakill. Maybe Duke didn't do that, I don't know. Didn't pay much attention either way to Duke, but I've heard a lot about nuDoom, I got Shadow Warrior for free, and I pirated nuWolf.

>>15315346

Making melee really powerful wouldn't even be a problem if it weren't for the fact they seem to always make you invincible now because everything is designed in sequence with no real thought towards the game as a whole. I imagine it went something like this:

>wow, the fist sucks

>let's make it kill everything in one hit

>that isn't satisfying, put in some long winded death animation

>sir, playtesters are complaining about dying during your kill animations

>also they're complaining that the guns aren't satisfying to use

>fuck it, just make them invincible during the melee kills

>>15315346

>Maybe Duke didn't do that

nuDuke was literally a two-gun modern FPS.

>Shadow Warrior

Original had pretty strong melee, and ranged weapons were powerful but went through the ammunition in a second. Remake has melee weapon that you have no reason not to use 99% of the time, and ranged weapons just all suck and you never use them except maybe to shoot those small flying bastards with dual SMGs. I really liked how they did the gun/sword balance in Final Doomer JPCP set - sword is fucking strong, but ranged weapons complement it perfectly.

>>15315369

Yeah, that really bothers me. I don't like "press button see character do something cool" gameplay. I like doing the cool thing myself.

>>15315380

I think I remember hearing that about Duke now. That's pretty bad too. Part of the enjoyment with a shooter, for me, is swapping back and forth on the fly. 2 guns isn't satisfying. As for Shadow Warrior, the sword is definitely OP. I think the only guns I used regularly were the revolver (single-action mode was pretty decent) and the crossbow. The sword was ridiculous though.

>>15315402

I didn't really ever like the flamethrower, and the rocket launcher had, I think, too big of a blast radius compared to your movement speed. Made it hard to not self-damage. The SMGs just always felt like I was doing nothing. Shotgun was almost good but I remember there being an annoying delay between it running out of ammo and the reload animation starting. I had it set up so I could fire all 4 barrels at once and it was decent like that but that delay really killed it for me.

>>15315402

Nah, I dumped my yens into the guns like a good goy but never felt any reward for this. I always felt "why bother, sword is doing that better anyway".

>>15315387

>>15315380

I've never actually played Final Doomer. Reading the thread on it now, it sounds like it's designed for Final Doom? It looks interesting but I'm not sure if I would actually need to hunt down the Final Doom wads to play it.

>>15315380

>Final Doomer

mein neger

>>15315501

It's not, you can play it on any map.

>>15315513

Maybe I'll just drop my current run of 2 I hate the level I'm on anyway and try it out.

>>15315501

It is designed to provide weapon sets made specifically for some popular megawads, but you can use them with any map wads you want.

>>15315548

I normally just end up playing one of the official games. Never downloaded many map wads. I have Doom the way Id did but I never finished it.

Final Doomer is pretty fun so far, but I feel like there are supposed to be icons on the "choose your weaponset" menu. I have to hold down LMB and move the cursor up and down to pick one because the screen is blank until I'm holding down LMB.

>>15320744

MetaDoom, Final Doomer and High Noon Drifter

>>15320744

doom2.wad

tnt.wad

Project MSX

>>15320779

I notice more the gameplay than the level design in most cases, unless the levels are really, really bad.

>>15320789

I find that I'm the same way, unless a level is very very good or very very bad I don't usually notice it much. In fact often I prefer levels that are more "classic" styled just because they focus more on good encounters and less on being really pretty, which IMO leads to levels which are absolute chores to play sometimes.

>>15320793

Don't get me wrong, I can sometimes remember bits of levels, but the really plan ones, like a bunch of default texture rectangles with monsters in them, that is memorable enough in being bad to stick out in my mind. Maybe I don't process locations well.

>>15320967

How the fuck are you unbanned already? Fucking mods do your job.

>>15320806

Usually for me it's a combination of quality and doing something that hasn't been done before. So yeah the first map that ever put you in a tight small room with a Red Baron is still with me to this day.

>>15320744

Ancient Aliens

Mr Friendly

A small wad I lost and don't remember the name of but who had the best midi music I've ever heard

>>15320967

>>15321550

>>15322006

How about finishing a map before posting it?

>>15309764

>LOTX

I found it, through from what I've played it seems more like GZDoom effect wankery than something actually engaging

>M1

You start off in a dark room with three shotgunneers and only your new plasma pistol, because starting a level before you're able to get your bearings in a situation you're very likely to take inevitable damage on your first playthrough is so much fun. The first room is locked by some kind of broken circuitry where you need to pick up some power core to progress (something the wad wants to make sure you know), though the ad hoc start combined with giant fuck-off DEEPEST LORE backstory alerts popping up on your HUD make it so that you're very likely miss the fact that you even picked up any kind of core amidst the fighting. I sure did. I just mashed E to see what was interactable.

You get a bunch of new weapons, like a nail shotgun which acts as a super-version of the shotgun with penetrative capability and a crossbow which acts like a charged-up rocket launcher, and these strike me as rather redundant. They all have their own separate ammo pools, and are essentially "X vanilla weapon but stronger". Some have additional capabilities like penetration, but those aren't that major to make you want to select it. They seem redundant to me because if you want something stronger in vanilla, you pick another weapon like the plasma rifle or rocket launcher or shotty. Not just the 'stronger shotgun'. It'd be another thing if the stronger variants shared their ammo pools with the vanilla weapons so there's a trade-off to using them, but as it stands I don't know why I can't get more plasma rifle ammo instead of some nails for my nail shotgun. The new weapons ruin the old trade-off of using rare plasma ammo or dangerous-to-use rocket launcher ammo against tankier enemies with simply beefed up weapons with their own rather commonly placed ammo types. You'd be better off just replacing the vanilla weapons with the new ones.

Also the colors. Jesus Christ. It's like taking acid in the North Pole. Dimly lit rooms everywhere contrasted with a large variety of bright vivid colors can't be considered as anything but taxing on the eyes. Some rooms have way too many colors present at once that you just start losing track of any geometrical detail. It's basic color theory that you want to keep some consistent primary colors in your palette applied throughout the whole level. Here one room is hued in yellow, the other in blue, the other in blue in red, the other has hues inbetween, it all becomes too much.

This becomes more confusing when you're trying to discern whether red/yellow/blue is being used for decorative purposes or for signposting colored doors/other waypoints. I'd try to use the blue broken power circuit to fix it because I had the blue key, until I learned that was meaningless and power circuits just require any kind of power core to get fixed. Often red/blue/yellow are used in contrast with the rest of the level to signify color keycards/gates, this contrast is lost when you give too many rooms hues in the same color. Even geometrically there are often too many details at once which makes it hard to understand what is supposed to catch your eye. Take the E1M1 starting room in the new map. Cracks in the ceiling, bright-ass outside open space, red door, blue door, calm down already. Although this level is confusing, it's linear enough that you won't get lost at least. It helps that it's a twisted reimagining of E1M1 so you can kind of figure out where to go.

The darkness in turn impedes trying to discern enemies like the zombiemen who blend in too much. It almost seemed like the author is going for an Overload-esque "enemy eyes glow in the dark" kind of aesthetic, but for some reason only Pinkies have glow-in-the-dark eyes and zombiemen eyes only glow when they fire.

There's a new flashlight, but it's the Doom 3 kind of flashlight which you can't use alongside your weapons, making it kind of pointless in a game not 100% dark and not horror. However, it's main use is to detect secrets behind slightly transparent walls, featuring hidden switches which need to be punched with your fists instead of being simply interactable. I don't see the point of this at all. All it means that if you want to detect certain secrets in the first place is that you have to pull out your flashlight to shine at everything and then switch to your fists to punch shit. It's so pointlessly cumbersome, I don't understand why you'd want to go from just mashing E at walls to this.

>>15323748

Encounter-wise there's not a whole lot of going on. It's the first level so it's fairly easy, but unlike the original E1M1 it features too much padding in the shape of tankier enemies such as Arachnotrons, Revenants and Hell Knights in places where you fight them one at a time in very open spaces where you can avoid their projectiles easily while constantly putting shotgun shells in them without any effort. That's not interesting encounter design, that's padding. For filler-type encounters you want to use weaker enemies, not tanky ones like Hell Knights. On the other hand you have this Revenant which spawns behind you when you pick up the power core in the E1M1 end room, which is somewhat tricky because the space you can move in to avoid the single Revenant's attacks is much more constrained, so you actually have to think how to dance around the Revenant even when he's by himself.

This map is lame. Visually it's a giant mess of colors and hard to distinguish rooms. That most of the encounters are on the easy side is excusable by the fact that it is the first map in a level pack, but for padding there is no excuse. The only positive point is that this map is very small, else the confusing lighting and coloring would have made it a pain of another level.

>M2

You start in a moving train filled with five easily-killed enemies. The good news is that the color usage is more bearable this time around. It's more on par with Doom 64 with its dimly colored hallways and slight contrast between darker colors. It's still awful and incredibly overbearing, but at least it doesn't make me think I need a new pair of glasses.

The starting hallway looks way too empty for its size, nor does it have enough enemies in it to justify the size. There's lava pouring from the ceiling in the middle of the hallway, but it disappointingly doesn't play into encounter design at all and is mostly there for decorative purposes. The lack of texturing detail and very low ceiling give it the impression that it belongs in Wolfenstein 3D.

It's not just this hallway, but almost the whole level which looks too empty. I almost feel the abrasive usage of colors is done just to mask the lack of detail most oversized connecting rooms have. Whereas the previous map was overdetailed, this one is just feels larger than necessary. There is a tower in the middle of a lava pool which you need to get to, and there's only one door connecting to the room leading to the tower. The tower has multiple entrances and can be circled around, but there's no real point to circling around or using anything but the front entrance. There's only like two of those lava monsters to your left and right when you enter the room with the tower anyways. You could just block off the paths leading around the tower and not miss anything. There's no point to increasing level space without using any of it. People accustomed to exploring levels for secrets (e.g. most people who play Doom) will feel sorely disappointed when they find out that there's no point to exploring every nook and cranny.

The worst part of this level is the pacing. First you have to find this power core, and then backtrack past enemies you already killed to a broken power circuit so you can unlock access to the tower. In the tower there are three teleporters leading to a colored key each, each containing its own challenge room. Then you have to backtrack to take that key to a hub of three colored doors, where you need to clear out a small room of enemies to get a power core. Then you need to backtrack to the green room which you only need to clear out once, and insert the power core in one of three broken circuits. Then you need to backtrack all the way back to the tower so you can do the same for the other two keys.

Nothing is being done to refresh the backtracking. I don't understand how this was a good idea conceptually given the amount of inevitable backtracking involved. I play Doom to kill demons, not to waste my time running from point A to point B while doing nothing at all. The destination rooms are slightly different and thankfully not redundantly symmetric, but that doesn't take away from the stupefying amount of dead air.

>>15323749

You can tackle the colored rooms in any order, but this non-linear type of progression works better when you don't have the road to each key obviously signposted in a hub, and evenmore so when there's not a tedious amount of busywork involved after getting each key. None of the colored rooms are even balanced out challenge-wise. Blue is obviously the hardest, yellow lies inbetween, and red is piss easy. Giving the player the option to choose between these options without the foresight to know what he's up against in each room only makes the end of the level feel anticlimactic when you end up taking the easiest challenge room as the last one. It could work if you only had a set amount of ammo to work with and that none of the challenge rooms had any ammo in them, so even though you end up picking the easiest room at the end you'll have next to no ammo. Though the more sensible thing is to make them all equally difficult.

The red room is a complete crapshoot where you can fight one of three mancubi at a time. Whip out your plasma rifle and they're pretty much stunlocked to death. The yellow room is slightly more challenging, at least the start is where you're stuck in a small inlet with Lost Souls and Imps and Pinkies in front of you, but the nail shotgun makes it a doozy. The blue room is more of a proper challenge with a mix of Revenants and Mancubi coming at you from different angles, though you have four waves and most of them just repeat the same encounters by bringing up the same enemies again after you press each button, which leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Challenge rooms aside, the end of the level is another anticlimax. It's just one Baron of Hell, which at this point in the level isn't a major issue to deal with. Actually, if you head to the exit before repairing any circuits you can actually safely take potshots at the Baron because the ice walls will block all his projectiles from hitting you while you can safely hit him. So the end of this level feels like one wet fart.

This level isn't as visually abhorrent as the previous one, but it still isn't any good either. It tries to go for the Doom 64 look but doesn't quite have the atmosphere to carry it, on top of using too many colors at inappropriate times. It's also bigger than necessary, which only worsens the amount of required backtracking you have to do. The pacing in this level is absolute drek and most encounters feel completely disjointed. Ammo doesn't feel like a problem at all. The climax of the level is one big joke. Only the blue room encounters are any good. Honestly, this map sucks.

>Secret Level

You have only 1HP, but your fists instantly kill anything. And you start off without any guns. That's real fun, now go punch these Pinkies in dark mazes. It's another one of these levels which relishes in making the player feel lost. Its layout is a complete maze of redundant passages and confusing signposting. To the combat there is no real crescendo. Punching Pinkies is no problem at all, but trying to punch Lost Souls in a situation where they can insta-kill you is. For some reason, Lost Souls only rarely ever appear in this map even though they are the most interesting enemy to fight with just your fists. Even the projectile-throwing enemies aren't as much of a problem because your fists insta-kill them.

Visually the map almost nails this ethereal dream cave feeling, but the colors make the geometry a bit too hard to read. At least there is one color used primarily used throughout instead of a fuckload. I just don't think this map has been properly tested.

There's this sector with a bunch of overlapping transparent cyan pillars or whatever which completely tanks the framerate when you look at it, which is kind of embarrassing. I doubt that that's done for intentional effect.

Also, I couldn't figure out how to progress at all. I found no way to get to the blue key, and by extent the red key as well. After some minutes of searching and humping around I threw in the towel and just slapped on IDDQD and noclip. There's a colored gate which leads to the next part of the level, but it's in a secret for some fucking reason and it requires all three keys. After that door there's an NPC you can talk to, and some pedestals to put your keys on, which apparently do fuck-all.

There's a whole heap of Cacodemons around, though apparently you're supposed to follow the blinking lights in a cave which leads to a Megasphere, but picking up the Megasphere locks you in place while you get wailed on. I turned off IDDQD to let myself die, but I just died instead of moving on, probably because there are no further levels.

>>15323750

This level was an annoyance, it wasn't particularly pretty to look at, and even the secret level concept of having instakill fists but little health is poorly realized. Navigation is just awful and confusing, what with a yellow altar which changes your perspective to show that the gates around the red key have change, but it happens so fast that you're unable to tell what actually just happened. Just not a very fun level.

At this point I'd just scrap the levels and thoroughly study Doom 64 in terms of how to use colored lighting on everything without looking like visual diarrhea before starting out again in this "style", though not before studying other WADs in terms of how to craft combat encounters worth a damn which don't feel like padding and how to naturally connect them together into a cohesive map. The usage of colors is akin to that of the abhorrent color schemes often used for fursonas: distracting and confusing. This WAD is like someone trying to draw in his own special style without even understanding the fundamentals of anatomy. First you should be able to make something good instead of something pretty. The priorities here are all screwed up.

/rant

>>15323755

>The usage of colors is akin to that of the abhorrent color schemes often used for fursonas

Well, there's a reason for that.

>S'Arais comes back to the thread

>banned immediately

At least the mods understand he's got problems now.

Has Joel finally finished the 2017/2018 mapping contest yet? It's fucking ridiculous he's been dragging it out this long.

Does anyone know any good Wolfenstein inspired/based levels? Already played the Laz Rojas WolfenDoom wads, and I want to get my Wolfenstein fix and get some more use out of Bratwurst

>>15324950

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=58269

Here's Spear Revisited Special Edition.

>>15325500

Oh look it's Mr. i-don't-have-a-phone with a new ID.

>>15323749

>>15323748

>>15323750

>>15323755

This is pretty spot on. I played through it earlier and was writing something up but you nailed the main points. I'm not as bothered by the rainbow diarrhea as you but pretty much everything was just plain boring or poorly executed. Even the item hints were an incompetent ripoff of Final Doomer, only in the console since he clearly had no idea how to do what FD did.

Anyone remember the SS13 wad some anon was working on? It's been a while since I've seen any news about that project.

>>15326604

>maze feels out of place

Put it right in the middle of the map on a different z-level with many entrypoints scattered around.

>>15326787

>>15326748

>>15326716

>>15326713

>>15326604

>>15326437

>>15326322

>>15326166

>>15326069

Your maps are shit, fuck off. Stop flooding the thread with this blogposting crap.

>>15326748

I believe it's a DF term as well.

Thanks mods. Maybe we can get somebody who makes actually good maps to post some stuff.

>>15331267

You're not fooling anyone with that (1).

>>15260171

>whitey

[hand rubbing intensifies]

>>15331368

If you're so concerned over the health of the thread, why is this your first post? Either you just entered the thread, meaning you're only acting like you have some kind of investment in the issue, or you've been lurking and are a complete hypocrite. Or you're an id-hopping loser, which S'Arais has proven himself to be.

>>15331451

Just search for the /cow/ thread and ignore him.

>>15331527

It's actually just nitpicking (over petty details in a shareware episode), which is even worse. Come back when you've made something that isn't a complete turd painted rainbow colors.

This is the guy who replied over 150 times to his own /cow/ thread. Mortal men can not hope to challenge such autism.

>>15331610

See >>15308624

He's been here for years.

>>15331616

yep, that's some severe autism alright, i thought he was just posting some comfy images of his WADS but no he has to sperg the fuck out and posts a single image only like a cuckchanner

>all these skeletons in Ancient Aliens

I'm getting too spooked for this shit. Map design's pretty neat, though. I like the use of cyberdemons/spiders/archviles in certain maps to keep you moving while you key hunt and stuff.

>>15331628

Doubtful. Notice how in the Doom 64 screenshot objects like the button and barrel stand out through minor easily perceived contrasts in color which don't massively clash with other colors in the screen while preserving its own darker tone. The hues of other rooms have a consistent color palette of darker colors which is more pleasing and less straining to the eye than suddenly introducing really bright greens, reds, yellows and blues in a room with a predominantly low orange/green like often seen in M2 which gives the map a cluttered impression. Doom 64 only sparingly uses bright colors, which is why the muted color palette lends so well to its more atmospheric tone.

>>15309675

I like his maps. but anon is clearly autistic and has odd posting habits

>>15332575

This way it looks better. The orange light near the end of the hallway should act as a decent enough signpost. For the first screenshot I'd only add a small ramp to the entrance to the left room. The abrupt change rise in floor height kind of clashes with the wall right next to it.

I never got the impression that these were techbase maps or any kind of base maps of sorts, they seemed to be too abstract in style and purpose.

>>15335460

It's sad. The thread is livelier when he's on, albeit in a somewhat autistic way, but if you can't appreciate autism and OC, what the fuck are you doing on an imageboard?

Just range IP ban the Canadian vorefaggot already. I am beyond sick and tired of DOOM threads being ruined by his autistic bullshit. I just want to talk about DOOM.

>>15335636

Ah shit, I forgot to link OBLIGE. It's here https://sourceforge.net/projects/oblige/files/latest/download

>>15335622

>rangeban the entire canadian country because i'm autistic and can't accept that there are people on the internet who have a differing opinion than me, and am completely oblivious to my own autistic bullshit fucking up the threads, I claim to want to talk about doom, yet whenever it does come up, or when somebody starts sharing their content and works without violating any of the rules, I deliberately start shitting up the thread

Somebody please permaban this sub-human.

>>15335636

Now this sounds fun, thanks for the idea~

>>15336454

Fuck off faggot this is the first on topic non-spam posting we've had on forever.

>>15335636

Alright, let's roll

>>15335636

Okay.

Just looked at /cow/ so he has over (205) posts sperging What the bloody hell and he is the legit reason why every thread Doom that has Doom in it has been shat up?

>>15338296

Yes, it doesn't help that he ID hops or people think he does.

>>15338393

He might be a reason why not only the doom threads have been shit, but why a few other threads have gotten ruined.

>>15335636

There's a nifty monster patch for OBLIGE too, if anybody wants. I'll make one with and one without.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53675

>>15338440

Nah.

>>15338683

Complex-doom also works pretty well with oblige if that is your thing.

Replaces all the monsters with random, tougher variants and has additional weapons + inventory items which can drop from the monsters.

>>15338761

Sounds neato, though Spellcross is specifically for Oblige alone.

>>15308624

How do you know it's the same person?

>>15339346

He flat out says it in that thread.

>>15339352

Alright, just wanted to clear that up.

>>15339346

Is this the same person that helped me out on that .wad I posted? The one that was bane-like?

How to get Quake? The link in the image is dead.

>>15340087

>Implicitly admitting that you ban evaded

Doominati rise up.

Never played doom. Link in the OPs pic doesn't work anymore, searching just confuses me. Halp?

>>15339991

Y-you're… S'Arais? Dude, what the hell have you been doing all this time?

S'Arais please man stop shitting up /v/ and the rest of 8chan up with autism.

>>15335826

>using crosshair

>>15340120

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d141df65ed92b0952a8f361f34d00ba803e7a012&dn=WAD%5FCollection%5F%28The%5FUltimate%5FDoom,%5FDoom%5FII,%5FFinal%5FDoom,%5FHeretic,%5FHexen,%5FHexen%5FDeathkings%5Fof%5Fthe%5FDark%5FCitadel%5Fand%5FStrife%5Fwads%29%5Fby%5FLovok.rar&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

Those are the WADs you want, open it in your torrent client of choice. As for the sourceports, search on the Doom wiki if you want, but generally GZDoom should do you for singleplayer, Zandronum for multiplayer. They're easy enough to find by your search engine of choice.

>>15340807

Fuck off I'm not interested in talking with a bunch of irc faggots, I know from the last Doom gamenight they don't even use that thread to talk to each other.

>>15338383

Oh, damn I forgot about that part. Old version didn't work like that, I'll have to update my text file. Also, if you guys want to try a generator based on an older OBLIGE with different styles of maps, try http://www.samiam.org/obhack/ObHack-win-008.3.zip

The levels are a lot more box-like but they're also pretty good and the lighting changes ca get very extreme, adding to the challenge. Just change the ruleset a bit so it fits. Really this is about getting people to have fun, not so much sticking to exact rules.

Should I even bother finishing Doom 2? The levels are much more tedious than Doom 1, to the point where I'm ready to just give up on it and start playing mods instead.

>>15341010

Where are you at? The middle drags quite a bit but I actually like the majority of the maps past map20

>>15341036

Downtown. The past few maps have felt like they have way too much empty space and backtracking.

>>15341046

Oh god, yeah that's where it really shits the bed IMO. If you can, keep playing and see if you can get to MAP17 or so, it starts to pick back up around there. Sandy Petersen just had a brain aneurysm or something and forgot that levels need actual excitement for a few maps.

>>15341046

Don't worry, that's Doom II's rock bottom as far as level design. It gets better.

>>15341046

Yeah you should play through vanilla Doom II, otherwise you won't "get it" when people claim it's bad level design.

>>15341010

No don't bother, it's shit. It's also funny how people claim DOOM 3 isn't a DOOM game simply because it lacks the high number enemy encounters that were only introduced in 2, a game that everybody hated. " hurr durr the shotgun was used way too much in DOOM 1 so lets make an even better shotgun that renders all other weapons pointless durrrrr" D2 might as well have had a 2 weapon limit and nobody would have noticed. DOOM 64 is simultaneously the real D2 and D3 since it did what both of those games set out to do much better.

>>15341052

I just tried it out, and I feel the same way about it. Everything seems very floaty and the levels aren't that great. Even the enemies aren't that great, I'm not really sure what the theme they were going for was.

>>15341052

Who are these semen demons?

>>15341894

Oh come on with your lousy attempt to rewrite history. Doom 2 was well received at the time and is still generally used as the primary base for mods. Doom 3 plays like bad horror game and while not as grave-pissing as Duke Nukem Forever it is not a Doom game.

>>15346435

Wouldn't Babel just make that harder? You madman.

To contribute some insight into the Oblige activity, I've got average maps that had Hell Knights and Cacos on the very first level with ver 7.50, but only Lost Souls, Imps and Zombies+Sargeants with this last ver (7.70)

>>15346497

With Babel I can dispose of a Lost Soul with a single shotgun blast, it was worth it.

>>15346596

I guess, but they do have a chance to come back. I'll have to try it once I get a chance.

>>15348725

Fuck off dramafaggot.

>>15348725

>/vg/

>S'Arais

>Irc fags and a major sperg

A match made in hell.

>>15349588

I JUST WONDER WHAT THE ICON OF SIN'S UP TO

>>15350759

Played the first map, sounds on the recording fucked up so I had to correct it in Vegas, but overall pretty decent experience.

https://my.mixtape.moe/tqnlho.webm

>>15356738

>simply because they ARE the better choice (imps and company just make it more boring and easy)

As opposed to bulletsponges? At least cannon fodder can be dealt with quickly. One bulletsponge-type enemy without supporting enemies or tricky geometry supporting it is a tedious exercise of circlestrafing and repeatedly shooting your shotgun because the threat isn't that immediate that you'd want to waste ammo for the stronger weapons.

>the weapons aren't just "stronger versions"

I noticed that they have additional capabilities like penetration, faster RoF, or freezing on impact, though that just more ties into the weapons being more stronger in general.

>>15357086

>>15357053

You okay there?

>>15357114

It's the evolve shill, he's been going fucking insane for the past few days, filter and move on

>>15357086

>I don't WANT them to be dealt with quickly. Even on UV they pose no threat; which is not what I want. Take the first hell-knight plus two pinkies. This seemed better than four pinkies and two cacos, as those were just tedious instead of fun and challenging, and the imps just go down way too quickly to a single shotgun blast, much like many of the other cannonfodder.

So then you place a group of cannonfodder enemies, or a bulletsponge enemy alongside some cannonfodder. One medium-sized bulletsponge enemy is hitstunned too easily (holding LMB over an Arachnotron with the shotgun equipped pretty much ensures he'll never attack if you get a lucky streak with the pain chances), that's why you often place groups of enemies so you can't easily stunlock a bigger enemy to death with no fuss, or alternatively change the layout of the level so you're put in a tricky situation where you can't avoid incoming projectiles as easily.

>How is this a problem? This has been a staple of the gameplay for nearly twenty five years

The staple of Doom is crowd control, target prioritization, and tactical weapon selection. Being able to circlestrafe through an encounter at all is usually a sign of shit level design because you don't have to think about how you move at all. That's why hitscan enemies exist to force you to use cover. That's why levels are often constrained and prevent you from circlestrafing at all. If there's nothing to a Cyberdemon fight than circlestrafing and holding down LMB to fire your rocket launcher, then it's shit. That's why you introduce multiple enemies of different types to spice things up, to make you think and reassess the situation.

Most enemies in Doom aren't that interesting to fight on their own in a flat space. Only the Mancubus really is because of his random fireball firing angles, and is more suited than any other enemy type to appear alone in an encounter.

>>15357086

>Take the first hell-knight plus two pinkies. This seemed better than four pinkies and two cacos, as those were just tedious instead of fun and challenging

There's fun, there's challenging and there's plinking at a lone big guy that poses no threat with weak weapons.

Is this thread still infested with cucks from (((Doomworld))) and (((cuckchan/vr/)))?

Reminder that our Lord and Saviour, SgtMarkIV pbuh, has released a new version and there's nothing these impotent soyboys can do about it expect making shitty hipster wads absolutely nobody plays!

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-beta

>>15357318

In example you could give 8 more shells or just extra energy cell and teleport imps into the tubes similar to the one player starts in as soon as the door opens. Bam, encounter spiced up and now it has some chance of at least damaging player.

I hope next thread won't me shat up.

>>15331312

>Being mad that nobody else knew how to paint in the 1700s

>>>/israel/

>>15373998

>Just tested it, it's certainly compatible with custom monsters but you might end up SOL when it comes to weapon and ammo drops.

What a shame, since he hardly added any custom monsters + he did monster related balances too.

> The lack of weapon models is because there's no weapon models in the original Rainbow Six games.

He should just make a model rip out of Stalker weapon mods which there is plenty of it :^). Also I fixed the slow sprinting "bug" by just enabling the always run mode, my fault since I just setup my self Rocket Launcher (frontend) program and compiled GZDoom 3.5.0 legacy version. I was way too much used playing mods and maps with skullshit and the doomseeker program. Despite I have a newer GPU which supports Vulkan, Graf still can go fuck himself with his OGL 3.0 requirement

Do Strife, Z.A.R., and Madspace belong in this thread?

also why can I never find downloads of these games? do I really have to be a paycuck?

>>15375269

>Paying for ancient games that no publisher gives a shit except to make more shekels out of dum """retro gamer"""

its dont. https://mega[.]nz/#!tQkFAb4Y!EOrBzLFhQNtEBeORJcd7fh1Fh2tDZNp41x2UPNy0NoM

>>15263526

>I repeat, go back to KC.

i… i c-cant

t-they took it from me

Why do they call it Complex Doom?

>>15378499

More monsters + more weapons + more inventory items = more complex. Not necessarily more good.

>>15378515

>>15378499 (checked)

The first time I seen the complex doom mod I excepted it would as the name implies would add quite a few features, such as giving the player more control for changing the weapon behavior or modifying it, making the artifical idiots much more challenging not by increasing its health pool by a factor of 6 million but instead like i don't know using actual tactics such as taking cover or communications to heavily screw up the player. Instead it does fun things like dealing with railguns equipped zombies immediately at the start and thus heavily favoring a RNG based gameplay instead of determined based. From the looks of it the LCA mod makes this RNG based gameplay worse by a estimated factor of 10 times, were a gold plated nigger pops in from time to time to really ruin your day.

Also I played the latest Hideous Destructor mod and I am quite surprised he actually changed the difficulty settings for a more tactical gameplay but not in the sense of "Just fuck my shit up". I managed to beat a few freedums II maps that way up to map08 or something before I got bored with this whole magazine cartridge juggling fun. I can actually quite see why the author of this HD mod wants to make the game as hard as possible, for example the SWAT like mod can be awfully easy at time as soon you get the USAS-12 weapon it makes the game a walk in the park since even from a long distance you can pop a nigga with 1-2 rounds and be done with him, 12 Gauge shells are available in abundance, in fact there is more 12 Gauge shells too loot of from then whatever ammunition the Skorpion SMG uses were I don't get to use it as often I'd would to. For my SWAT mod play through I played a few maps of strange aeons and freedums I. I like it how the camera movement imitates a drunktard and it made even more sense as soon I modded myself all the health items with vodka and beer sprites.

Are there any mods that emulate metal slug series and maps that recreate and/or exaggerate war?

>>15379382

Action Doom (the first one) has a sort of Metal Slug/Contra vibe to it.

>>15386263

Eye cancer

>>15386304

Nothing. It's not related to the demons, it's a floor trigger

>>15391192

Not that I know of, but it would be an interesting challenge. Trying to figure out what "in combat" means would be a bit tricky.

>>15391192

Oh wait I misread that. There are a bunch of mods that let you customize music. Jimmy's Jukebox comes to mind, but I also remember some guy on 4/vr/ making a script that puts together music wads. See if you can find one of those.

>>15391192

>>15393950

>>15393926

I kind of misread that too, but that's a pretty nifty thing. I liked how Serious Sam did that depending on the player's status, having a "wandering" track and a "combat" track.

>>15394090

Fuck off S'Arais

>>15399962

>That would be more complex but it would indeed be cool to have music specifically for when you're godding it at 100-200+Armour/Health and then different kind for when you're at death's door.

Okay, that reminds me of how noxiousnet used to have music that was basically dependant on how many zombies were clustered together in any given round of GMOD zombie survival. More zombies had a bigger increase on a graphical meter, whereas this would also change the given tune alongside other factors. Pretty nifty stuff.

>>15393926

Usually you just check how many enemies are aggroed at you at the same time and how many of them are actually in (attack) range

>>15401049

>how many enemies are aggroed

As soon you fire a pistol, even enemies that are almost in some closed rooms will "wake up" and shouting around like apes. Sometimes it also happens that enemies that are stuck in a teleport box gets woken up too due to quality artificial idiot coding.

>how many of them are actually in (attack) range

Their attack range is infinite (assuming it has hitscan/missiles weapons), so good luck :^)

I know it is not a question but it triggers my autism that enemies are aggroed on some damn area I have yet to see it let alone being able to reach it.

drag and DROP dat shit onto the EXE nigger

>>15407208

doesn't work

>>15407217

what error is it spitting

>>15407037

you only load one of those test files, if it contains a hotfix for example test7_hotfix5.pk3 then you would have to load test7_dev(ANY NUMBER).pk3 first then the hotfix, you only need to load 1 of those files so in this case it is moon_man_v1.4_test9_dev1.pk3. I have to admit the test version is quite messy, but I use mostly the opportunity to see if the mod will work properly in Skullshit or not since it is compatible from the past version of the mod. Decorate and especially the ACS stuff can and will behave wildy different in Skullshit Multiplayer mode due to Netcode. One of my major problem is that TSPG hosts and other such groups decided to ban Moonman mod over some bullshit reason (hurr racism, hurr always credit the donut steele authors) so I have a hard time getting this Mod out to the people.

TL;DR: load moon_man_v1.3_test9_dev1.pk3 with Skullshit 3.0 only, you still can use other wads as long it doesn't change the monster/classes/weapons and items, like a map pack or music wads. GZDoom compatibility is not always guaranteed.

>>15410485

>When I drag and drop into Zandronum it doesn't appear under the rest of the .wads.

Hint: it shouldn't. Just drag-and-drop Moonman file on top of Zandronum, pick Doom 2 and click OK.

>>15410485

>can't google what an IWAD is

Shit dude you only got 0 int

>>15412053

Thanks, fam, that worked.

>>15412511

I'm literally a boomer I'm 36