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MGSV is fun even as is and you fucking know it, you little (you) whore.

no the indicators aren't the issue, it's the lack of level design. The game gives you a ton of tools to play with the but lack of good compounds and areas makes it so many of these tools aren't ideal to use and the nature of the missions causes it to stagnate quickly.

>>15248663

This basically.

But to answer your question, yes there are mods for that and much more. Get Infinite Heaven and have fun

>>15248641

The game is actually really fun when you play it in subsistence mode

Some of the games missions have subsistence mode which forces you to play it like the pre MGS4 MGS games. Namely, no upgrades, no unlocks, no spawning with weapons and no buddies. You need to secure everything on site and it forces you to actually pay attention to the enemies far more and not rely on cheap weapons like the tranq to get through areas. Esp if you want a high rating.

There's a mod that lets you do this for other missions in the game which is really nice. It really feels closer to what they intended for the game.

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>>15248755

Gotcha, I’ll give it another go then. Last time I played it I got to Africa and just got burnt out for some reason probably the level design.

>>15248641

I did that as soon as I could and I still hated MGSV. It's just far too repetitive and wastes much more of your time on unskippable, non-interactive sequences than any of the previous games ever did, which is pretty ironic considering how relatively thin the plot is. The lack of variety in locales, bases and enemy types doesn't help either.

>>15248755

That actually looks pretty good

>>15248663 Has it right, it's the level design, really the lack therof that brings it down. If you want a fun, if limited version of TPP, just play Ground Zeroes, my only problem is that you can't customize your tools going into missions.

No, because you can't turn off the cutscenes and the rehashed missions, and the shitty open world.

>>15248654

>MGSV is fun

Cuckchan go back to your shitty board. It has long been established MGSV is a shit game.

>>15248971

>Cutscenes

What cutscenes? The game is blatantly unfinished, the few cutscenes that are there are short and nonsensical.

>>15248971

You can just turn off the game. Or better yet don't even fucking bother with it.

>>15248971

>because you can't turn off the cutscenes

You can skip the cutscenes. Most of the intro mission actually flies by when you do this.

I wasted 800 hours playing this game, fite me

The Paz sidequest hit hard for me

MGSV is already fun

>>15249553

I'll say this, MGSV is the best incomplete game I've ever played. I do love all the little details in it too.

>You can knock soldiers out if you perfectly aim a magazine at their heads

>You can slide in a cardboard box if you go down a sloped surface and knock soldiers out that way

>Cardboard box will break in the rain

>You can electrocute soldiers by shooting power poles in rain

>If you time it right, you can fulton a vehicle and have it smash into an enemy helicopter

>If you fucked up and set the troops on alert, you can grab a soldier like he's your hostage, and the troops facing you down won't shoot as long as he's in the way (I think they will fuck you up from the sides or behind though)

>360 movement while proned, Snake will change from being on his belly and laying on his back

>While doing the side missions where you rescue the missing mother base soldiers, if you play Love Deterrence on your cassette player, and then play it on the speakers, the soldiers will run up to you, salute, and express their gratitude

>If you encircle a soldier with dummies and place yourself among them, they'll have a hard time figuring out which one is the real you

>This is really autistic, but having the option to only display hud when aiming or in combat. Most games either have On/Off option and this pisses me off

No other game even does half of this kind of shit anymore.

>>15248680

>Get Infinite Heaven

I don't even need half this shit, just having subsistence mode for every mission would be fun

>>15248641

Yes, the way it should be played, but then you'll get bored because there's barely anything in the maps.

Does the end of the game leave you unfulfilled due to all the cut content or will I feel satisfied enough with the conclusion?

Would MGSV have been good had Kojima finished everything he wanted to do?

Lets remember that he kept saying it was going to be the last MGS game going all the way back to 2. By the time 4 came out it was virtually a lock that was the last one until they then announced that nope yet another is going to come out. He was also given a ton of time as it is whether you like Konami or not. I mean was he going to take 10 or more years to finish? Was he going to demand Konami fund him a few hundred million for his dream MGS game?

Also he already ruined the storyline canon by releasing 4 anyways.

>>15250564

We'll never know the truth, was Kojima overspending and wasting money on Hollywood writers and actors to the point that the game was bloated or could Konami take a gamble and used this game along with the Fox Engine to get a resurgence in the industry they quickly returned to after Gambling was legalized in Japan?

>>15250602

You mean made illegal right? I found that pretty damn funny for Konami when I read someone mention that Japan recently passed laws on that.

My opinion is that Konami was actually more in the right here than Kojima. Supposedly MGSV budget was already pretty big at that point and as you said, he seemed to want to get all this Hollywood influence into his game because lets face it, this fucker would prefer to be in Hollywood than making games. He always has wished he could. I think Kojima is basically the George Lucas of gaming. I've seen many call him that. He's got great ideas but he never always fleshed everything out good. Especially so with his later MGS games being a mess. However he may prove to be the best thing MGS could have ever hoped for if Disney's treatment of Star Wars parallels how Konami is going to treat it in the future.

To me the MGS games take a pretty hard nosedive after 3 with the only exception being that the later games play better. However the gameplay isn't so good that it makes those games great. In fact for 4 at least it is to the contrary since 4 has way too much shoved story and shitty level/act to play in. 4 is easily the worst of the ones I played.

>>15250651

By the time Konami's new CEO was planning to give up on the core gaming market and just go to pachinko and mobage bullshit, Casino Gambling was legalized, it was one of the reasons why some of the Yakuza are impoverished right now and why Konami's out of touch board members wanted them to shit out Metal Gear Survive. And MGS3 man, like fuck, it has the awesome survival going innawoods Green Beret gameplay, but was short out of open world because the areas were pretty damn small stages connected to each other. My only wish is MGS3 in MGS5.

>>15248977

>reeeee i said its bad kek XD

>>15248977

>t has long been established MGSV is a shit game.

By who? You and 4 other retards who shit up every MGS thread? Kill yourself. MGSV is great

>>15250651

>>15250602

I used to think that Konami was in the wrong but seeing how Kojima is almost never in his studio in preparation for DS, spending instead all the time traveling, meeting up with hollywood buddies and virtue signaling… I'm starting to think he's in the wrong. Kojima can be a great director with some control but unrestrained he'll do more bad than good

>>15248969

This. Putting the clusterfuck story aside, my biggest issue with MGSV was the lack of interesting bases to infiltrate. The movement and stealth elements feel really great, but it's utterly wasted because 98% of the game is mud hut villages or tent-filled military outposts. The game desperately needed some large, elaborate military complexes with tons of vents, hallways, and other such interior locations to sneak around and explore in.

Instead, every mission leads to yet another African/Middle-Eastern adobe village with single-room houses.

>>15250564

We all wish Konami gave him all the money he could ever need or want to make the dream perfect game. We all wanted MGSV to be better than it was. However, reality comes calling and we have to drop those notions. Businesses exist to make money and watch their accounts. MGS V, despite being unfinished whether it was 90% or 50%, was already one of the most expensive games of all time. Its completely unreasonable to expect Konami to shell out another fifty million or whatever the development budget was just so Kojima can spend another five years to finish the game.

Konami fucked up by treating the team like shit and the rumoured order to have MGSV be on 360 and PS3 as well. They also got too giddy at the gambling potential, so their gaming division being a meager part of their total operations, they decided to gut it. Kojima fucked up by delaying and over spending.

>>15248641

Complete lie, play ground zeroes and pretend TPP doesn't exist.

>>15248641

It was fun regardless. I turned off all the interface hints and shit and it only made the game better, at least for me. I could see why people won't though.

>>15248663

>>15248969

>>15250795

A hundred times this. They should've had some indoor/underground locales for one-off missions, kinda like the prologue, but less cinematic.

>>15250795

>The game desperately needed some large, elaborate military complexes with tons of vents, hallways, and other such interior locations to sneak around and explore in.

you had the big base in Hellbound and even then it felt underwhelming due to the low enemy density (given the engine shortcomings) and the lack of good reasons to explore other than resources. I think the last point is one of the reasons level design feels so boring, many places are actually good but the only reason to visit some areas is to get some resource. In previous MGS titles exploration was vital to the experience. Having everything be developed and supplied at will really hurt the game. Just compare it to Ground Zeroes where if you want that extra silencer or a new weapon you had to explore. Had they included Camp Omega in TPP, it would have felt underwhelming as well.

The game is a victim of current gaming trends (grinding, open world and so on)

>>15248663

Yep. It's why Ground Zeroes is more fun, and also why the missions which involve more tightly designed sections or even railroading, such as Phantom Limbs, Pitch Dark, Voices and Hellbound are some of the best in the game. Any time the game actually forces you down a path or to approach an area from a particular angle, it starts to feel much more like a Metal Gear game again, instead of Japanese Far Cry 3.

>>15250997

funny, I think Voices and Hellbound are a chore to play. The most fun I had with the game were the very few missions that actually used the open-world to its benefit, like Red Brass or Backup Back Down for example. But I agree that Ground Zeroes is the best experience in the whole MGSV thing

>>15250836

MGS4 sours the whole series though. Too bad he didn't completely retcon it. Better yet never created it. Even if MGSV was amazing the overall story goes to absolute shit with 4. MGS4 is one of the most terrible games I've played. In fact it is the most overrated game I played for sure. I've played more terrible games but MGS4 definitely takes the most overrated cake for me.

>>15254018

>konami shit the bed and gave us a half ass'd unpolished game story

I'm sure Kojima going over budget, over deadline and in over his fucking head had nothing to do with it.

>>15254054

>defending konami

Considering how everything else in Kikenami's line up is either mediocre or garbage they should've been praising Kojibo's ass the whole time.

>>15254072

>implying that both aren't evenly to blame

Sure fag.

>>15254083

They're have their respective parts at fault, but don't act like Kojibo was working with an easy task at making another sequel to one of the most well like game series.

>>15254094

Yeah, Kojima built MGS single handed, not like MGS went to shit as soon as he got rid of his co-writers.

>>15254103

I mean if you don't like Kojima you could always try Metal Gear Survive :^)

>>15254121

I don't care about the zombies, Survive just took out all the things that made V fun, and then some. It's obvious that the design of the Metal Gear games is highly dependent on Kojima's story telling.

>>15254121

The point is that survive is shit and gets shilled constantly.

>>15254133

There is the one dedicated sperg that can be summed up with "I fucking hate Kojima threads, that's why I'm going to make fucking Kojima threads" that also shills for Survive, but I haven't seen him in a while.

>>15251112

I haven't played the game in a while, so they may not be as much fun as I remember. Voices at the very least had an incredibly cool atmosphere, and was one of the missions which stuck out most in my memory.

MGS V is only fun if you use a mod to remove all your gear and are forced to rely on your hands and what you pick up only.

>>15254576

Infinite Heaven is a must have.

>>15250341

it will leave you as unfulfilled as peacewalker does. The fun of it is to redo missions and approach them in different ways, even the most stupid ineffective ways. I would recommend to download infinite heaven though to make the "endgame" better though.

>>15248641

The controls and gameplay mechanisms are fucking top notch. The problem is the lack of story to give the gameplay purpose, the fact that it was built for 360 and PS3 so the worlds couldn’t actually be populated with anything (thereby making the game repetitive and empty), and the fact that the game wasn’t finished.

>>15248755

>Some of the games missions have subsistence mode

Wait for Infinite Heaven to update to the newest version and ALL missions will have it (as well as custom game modes, such as one where all enemies within a 2 mile radius know where you are at all times, and you have to escape that radius before you can leave the map).

>>15254576

Infinite Heaven and Morbid’s Side-Op Pack. Neither works with the newest update, and the game says it’s going to be updating once a week for the next few months, so don’t expect them to update their mods again until the “final” update in the series. We’re nearing the end of development, unfortunately. There are plenty of aesthetic mods for model swaps, but I don’t use any. If you like playing as the Mother Base girls out in the world, there’s a mod to get rid of their running breathing because they sound asthmatic. And just get the “all soldiers are S++” mod, because that doesn’t matter anymore, everyone who still plays the FOB invasion is a hacker anyway, and S++ helps you with singleplayer in-game features and functionality.

>>15254983

I'm still mad no one else is trying to finish what they started with MGSV. Open world stealth, with all the approaches and tactics you can want, surely has potential. Or at least Ground Zeroes type stealth, large levels instead of open world.

>>15255809

Look at this pleb who didn't see that 4 and PW are masterpieces.

>>15255866

The worst part is, MGS4 had incredible gameplay and decent level design, it's just that out of the ten hours of game, you got to play for maybe an hour and a half, if you knew where you were going.

>>15248641

It makes for some minor improvements but ultimately you will only like it of you enjoy the base building grind loop. I would recommend Ground Zeroes way more for it's vastly superior story, music, level design, and gameplay. Going from GZ to TPP you basically gain the open world and fultoning things to build your base, but lose amazing set pieces like a helicopter battle, things which basically got pushed to cutscenes in TPP. GZ is definitely shorter but I think as a game it is still better and the comparison is fair.