/v/ - Video Games

Imagine having no internet.

>>15239416

Must be using up all your internet on that 40GB Spyro download

40GB of uncompressed sequels with high fidelity audio. The next generation of gaming is here boys!

Is that supposed to be Ripto? How the hell did they fuck him up so badly?

>>15239430

That wasn't meant to be snarky, I did mean, imagine not having internet, or having your machine connected to the internet.

You'd just be paying for (1) game.

ALSO FUCK EUROPE FOR HAVING LIKE 20 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

>>15239526

Arabic language option lmao

>>15239508

i know in a lot of computey games the all encompassing harem of languages can take up a lot of memory

>Requires content download

>Just all of the games

So whats even on the disk besides a link to download the games?

>>15239507

But Anon, don't you love those precious 5GB of uncompressed .flac SFX in addition to the 30GB of voice acting?

why do nuVidya devs hate opus?

>>15239561

They'll magically start to love it once cloud gaming gains traction.

>>15239561

Isn't that the native music format on the Switch? What gives.

>>15239588

Is your internet not fast enough, anon? Just get Google™ Fiber™!

>>15239588

Isn't .adx already and extremely optimised lossless solution already?

Do they use other formats due to licensing issues or what?

>forgetting that games routinely came in multi-disc sets toward the end of the floppy/CD/DVD eras

Hell, if I recall correctly Baldur's Gate II came on like 4 discs, and several PS2 JRPGs did as well. Devs could certainly do better about compressing file sizes, but it shouldn't be a shock that we're running up against the capacity of BDs. As for this game in particular, I figure they just opted for a download so folks wouldn't have to switch discs between games (also to save money shipping less discs).

>>15239407

>a game from 1998

wrong

>>15239605

Anon, the point is that Blurays are, what, 50 gigs? The additional downloads are up to 40 gigs, to a fucking remake of a PS1 trilogy of games is 90 gigs. I'm sorry, this is unreasonable by any standards. A floppy was 1.44 megabytes, or 1.2 for 5.25 in.

PS1 disks were a maximum of 700 megs, and PS2 disks were 1.4 gigs. It sort of makes sense for an RPG full of FMVs to not fit into 1.4 gigs, when you add a full soundtrack and voice acting.

This is fucking 90 gigabytes. That's, what, ten fucking 1080p bluray movies? Are you fucking mad? There is no excusing this.

>>15239634

>This is fucking 90 gigabytes.

You should thank piratefags. It's the future you chose.

>>15239688

Let's be honest here, only having one version of software to sell that just fetches system language is more an issue of lazy publishers than pirates.

>>15239688

By that you mean that piratefags will end up trimming the download to half its size as usual? Yeah, I should thank them.

>>15239634

I'm sure if you tried to tell someone in 1987 that in the future Final Fantasy VIII would be multiple gigabytes and require four 700 MB discs to run, they would have found that ridiculous too.

Again, not trying to say games aren't oversized, but it actually fits with the overall historical trends for games to be 30-50 GB today.

>>15239664

Jesus christ. That's fucking worse.

>>15239735

imagine your service stating you have unlimited data and then hitting the cap and getting a 300 dollar fine

>>15239704

You think like a kid, it doesn't matter who and when fixes the eventual repack. The goal is to punish the average nigger who is too illiterate to either make or find those improved versions.

>>15239753

I would not mind that one bit (;

>>15239761

Keep going. You can animate that face and make a .gif out of it

>>15239769

I'm pretty sure I've exhausted the extent of wasteful file usage that I know of.

>>15239783

No you faggot, I want to see more.

>>15239407

I can understand that a remake is not the same as an "HD" compilation, but that's still some massive amount of shit, advertising and calling it a trilogy yet requiring servers to play two thirds of the games on it. How many fucking gigabytes in the first game supposed to be? Is Spyro 1 near the datacap for blu-ray (as a disc install; just saying since hardly any games run as is from disc in the current gen; internal storage means less need on the developer end to optimize) or something on it's own for it to be that bloated?

All the more reason I'll just stick with the PS1 originals.

I like my stuff on disc. Wasn't going to buy it anyway I can play original on emulator easily.

>>15239588

At least it'll kill this industry.

>>15239407

Is it just a jewish tactic to get you to buy (((digital))) because in this case it'd be the exact same fucking thing as physical or did they seriously went full retard and used up the entire 75GB in the bluray disc?

>>15240003

ive always wanted to fuck jenny

First the Final Fantasy 7 remake and now this. What else?

>another game decides to keep uncompressed audio over actual game data

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15239507

God damn. Minus the resolution, the remake looks like an OG Xbox game. No excuse for its size.

>>15239526

>>15239535

>>15239544

I don't get it. Why don't devs just offer the less used languages as free dlc instead of cutting fucking game content to cram slavshit, sandnigger and bug people languages on the disk? The software industry has been doing this for ages for additional language support.

>>15239600

>Do they use other formats due to licensing issues or what?

I remember some time ago, some anon who was claiming to have worked in the industry said that this was the main reason for the uncompressed audio fad - so devs could save shekels by not having to license codecs. I know there are free / open-source codecs, but maybe there are technical reasons for not using them.

If this is true, get ready. As I'm sure devs will start using uncompressed video as well once storage and bandwidth allow it

>>15240218

Well mp3's patent is clear. Not for VBR, but CBR is good to go and FAR smaller than pure WAV.

>>15240218

>I don't get it. Why don't devs just offer the less used languages as free dlc instead of cutting fucking game content to cram slavshit, sandnigger and bug people languages on the disk?

If I had to guess it's probably illegal or something in europe and they can't be fucked to Cert test and Print Localized versions.

Pretty gay, still gonna get it for like 4 bucks though.

>>15240107

The most horrifying part of this image is that Brock wants them to stop.

>>15240311

That's because he wants them to be doing him, not each other.

You guys would actually be okay with compressed audio? Not that I have the hardware to make it justice, but audiophiles always throw a fit at these ideas.

>>15239407

That is what you get for paying for entertainment.

Get all entertainment for free. always. And never give money to Activision. If anyone still want to pay them, they deserve to be scammed.

>>15240337

Audiophiles are also known as "idiots."

>>15239407

its DLC

>>15240384

excuse me

its DRM

>>15240393

Damn right it's DRM.

>>15239717

>I'm sure if you tried to tell someone in 1987 that in the future Final Fantasy VIII would be multiple gigabytes and require four 700 MB discs to run, they would have found that ridiculous too.

>Final Fantasy

<17 hour NES RPG with sprite graphics and 8-bit music

<35 hours for 100% completion

>Final Fantasy VII

<38 hour PS1 RPG with thousands of textures and 3D mobels, FMV videos, orchestral soundtrack, and mini-games

<89 hours for 100% completion

>Spyro 1-3

<23 hour (Total) PS1 platformer trilogy with thousands of textures and 3D mobels, and orchestral soundtrack

<31 hours for 100% completion

>>15239521

Shit, you'd have to pack up your PS4 and go to the local library.

>>15240605

>FF7 remake

>split into individual episodes instead of a cohesive whole

>spyro remake

>3 games with likely some asset interchangeability but the rest must be downloaded

>>15239756

Soi mostly the niggers who are giving them money then?

>>15240762

That's nice and all but the real reason the other games aren't there is DRM.

>>15240762

>Compressed audio CAN be kind of nice

Fuck me I meant to write UNcompressed. Fucking spellcheck i swear to Christ.

The most infuriating part of this, is that they could've used 3 discs.

>>15239561

flac is compressed you retard. You're thinking of WAV and related.

>>15239756

And the one in the wrong is the company who punishes legitimate customers to get at a demographic who just want to check if their game is good before buying. It doesn't matter why the company you defend acts like a crook. What matters is that it does.

>>15240958

It honestly reminds me of how companies used to view games as a "one and done" sort of thing, and combined with attempts at theft prevention, would actively destroy the components (source code, files, etc) after release because they didn't fathom people wanting to still play such long after they were current. At least physical copies are still usable in that case (moreso in the past when the release had all it was coming with, barring extended ports and Director's Cuts), but tethering content to servers being active sucks, regardless of whether it's content reliant on multiplayer, DLC, patches, parts that the game was supposed to come with, or entire fucking games.

>>15240969

That would've been nice, even if unnecessary. Could have hired a small production company to make little documentary featurettes as bonus content.

>>15240979

He meant lossless, obviously.

>>15240969

Even two would've been overkill, probably. I don't buy into the 'no space' bullshit, the freaking Uncharted Collection fit in one disc.

This is probably the result of overtime work still not being enough to finish all three, so they'll just send the gold master as a crippled Spyro 1 then keep working on 2 and 3 right until release date. Basically, an almost Tony Hawk 5 situation… And who published that again? Yup, Activision.

The cherry on top would be that the 2&3 patch from day 1 comes with a glaringly, stupidly obvious bug a few levels in… I can already see it happening.

>>15241095

>>15241095

Yeah that post is full of mistakes its all good.

3 GAMES A YEAR.

I miss the good old days fuck me.

>>15239526

Go suck a wall of dicks, globalist

>>15241095

>>15241102

I usually only get one or two games when they release per year, if any. Everything else I just buy down the line preowned or pirate. Also kind of telling that of the upcoming games I've been considering this year (a whopping three), all are just older games, or at least versions of games, we never got officially out here when they were current (Metal Wolf Chaos, for instance), rather than actually new games.

>>15239416

>Imagine having no internet.

Imagine needing an internet connection for a physical, single player game.

Imagine wasting space on your HHD when the games could've been in the disk in the first place.

Imagine buying a physical version of a game that doesn't actually include the game but asks you to download it from the online store making the physical edition pointless.

Imagine not being able to play those SINGLE PLAYER games in 10-15 years because the servers would probably be dead by then.

Just like compress your textures with bpg and audio with opus. 99.999% of people will not be able to tell a single difference even at moderate compression levels, besides you can provide uncompressed downloads separately for autists who want it.

what's going on with all these re-releases and remakes not having all the data on disk/module?

capcom pulls this bullshit with the megaman collection too, no way this won't fit on the disk/module.

>>15241821

>Imagine wasting space on your HHD when the games could've been in the disk in the first place.

Games get copied to the drive anyway you dumb cunt.

>>15241928

Apparently the emulator they shipped with Legacy Collection is pretty shit.

>>15241935

>Games get copied to the drive anyway

No shit Sherlock, i was answering to his "imagine having no internet" that felt like the "i mean, come on, it's current year" non argument that people use to justify shit like that.

>>15239416

People like to make the 'current year' nonargument as a response to that but that is a real thing that happens.

A buddy of mine living abroad can't get internet because of his visa and would be completely fucked if he actually bought the Spyro remaster because he literally doesn't have internet in his apartment.

>>15241031

That's one of the main reasons I stopped buying games. It infuriates me how pretty much all devs these days, from AAA companies to tiny one-man indie devs, have early buyers basically working as alpha testers and paying for that privilege.

I come from the era when by the time a game was released, that was it. It was finished, and properly tested. Even on PC it used to be like that before the 7th gen. Update patches were typically few, far between and very small in size (compared to the game size), and usually I would still be able to finish the game with few or no issues even with the unpatched version. Most patches were mostly to add support for new hardware / apis / Windows versions, since shit was changing so fast in those days. In the rare occasions when we had a PC game coming out that needed big 0-day / 0-week patches, it would usually draw a lot of criticism and attention from the public and even the gaming press.

Nowadays, you get the game and a week later at most must download an update "patch" that's almost the size of the game itself. Without this update the game isn't completable due to game-breaking issues. And worst of all, everyone seems to be ok with that. Fuck this shit, I'm out.

>>15243274

>Nowadays, you get the game and a week later at most must download an update "patch" that's almost the size of the game itself.

I remember talking to an xboxfag that plays pubg a lot. He was excited, because the new update was 12 gigs, and I think there's a new map planned soon or something like that. I, half jokingly, said "it's probably nothing important and they're just making you redownload the whole game over again". He then checked and his actual PUBG install is also 12 gigs.

It's just people being retards. Didn't Kingdom Come have a 12 gig patch in the first week as well?

>>15239600

ADX is lossy proprietary shit.

Why didn't they just use 2 discs?

>>15241102

>Yeah that post is full of mistakes

Yes, especially the 1st sentence where you claim that there are no games on the disks/cartridges.

>>15239521

Unrealistic, since modern consoles are nearly unusable without internet excess. Like good luck playing a modern game without patch support…not even waiting a year and going for the Game of the Year edition helps since those also require patches.

>>15243339

Because people are dumb enough to pay full price for one disc without demanding more. And since publisher are also saving money on it they won't stop until you pay for literally nothing. So don't forget to pre order your digital license, goy.

>>15239407

>CY+3.586

>owning a modern console

>buying new games

>buying a lazy rehash

shiggy fucking diggy

>>15243339

>2 discs.

But that cost money and they don't want to go backwards into PSX era of gaming where it was reasonable.

>>15243292

It surprises me seeing people still getting excited about game sizes / upload sizes as a metric of technology / quality these days, I thought people had stopped paying attention to this shit by the time CD-ROMs took over cartridges.

As for Deliverance, I don't remember seeing 12 GB but there was an 8 GB update soon after it came out (maybe it was 12 GB on consoles or something). Not planning on playing this anytime soon, as big patches are released almost every week. I'll wait for the actual finished version in the goty edition or something.

>>15243450

Seems like he doesn't though Anon. Seems he just lurks in images boards to be a little bitch.

>>15243438

PS2 games did this too sometimes, but it was mostly just bonus DVDs like my copy of Final Fantasy 10 has one for example and then theres Metal Gear Solid 3 which has 3 disks one is the complete game, the second disk is Metal Gear Online and the third is all the cutscenes.

>>15243483

Vile!

>>15243475

yikes

>>15243483

not jewish enough

>>15243483

Why is he wearing pants?

>>15242318

No lie. He wouldn't even be about to install the fucker due to the product key in the disc.

Disheartening.

I'm actually kind of excited for this and have been playing the original games on my PSX, but if they keep trying to pull shit like this I probably won't buy their game.

Who am I kidding I probably won't buy it until the Steam release anyways

>>15240003

give source pls

>>15243709

At the very least, they brought in Stewart Copeland to unfuck their shit soundtracks after people called them out on it, so we might get something good out of this mess.

>>15243739

Or you could make your own game

and have more fun with both making it and playing it than you will playing another game ever again. It's a curse.

>>15241095

>That is all discs are these days. Frisbee cucks like to drone on and on about "really" owning their games but this stopped being the case with the onset of the PS3/X360 generation. Hell even games like POD Speedzone on Dreamcast locked a track and two vehicles behind an internet connection.

I don't like DLC either but there's still a big difference between that and a game being unplayable. Relevant to this thread, the Crash remakes a year ago were all on the disc, so I can play them forever. Spyro remakes aren't on the disc, so 20 years from now they'll be gone and the disc will be a frisbee, as you put it. This shit did start getting bigger ten years ago, but most of the games I personally like (platformers, hence being in the spyro thread) didn't do that. Now they're starting to, so I guess I won't be buying this, since I can't actually own it even if I pay for it.

>Soul Calibur VI so I can get in the online while its up because I fucking love Soul Calibur even the bad ones.

See there you go, man. Part of the problem. Online is the biggest cancer to come to video games and you've acknowledged it. Fight that, and just play local multiplayer. Playing with people online isn't the same anyway. They might as well be bots if they aren't in the room with me. I can still play Soul Calibur III with my friend right now, and that's a "bad" game, but it's better than one that won't work in a few years.

>>15241103

>globalist

>because he wants first world products to stop hindering themselves to cater to shitholes

>>15241935

Not always, and to different degrees. But this is also a cancer that needs to stop.

>>15243274

Remember when games used to have revisions? Second printing of the game would fix some bugs and stuff. I wouldn't mind patches and such as much if they were all included in the next printing of the game. They have "Game of the Year Edition" or whatever now, but I've noticed less games doing that, I think because they noticed people like me purposely not buying the full priced demo that is released first, and then waiting for the actual full game to be released a year later.

>>15243384

There are plenty of games that work fine without patches and a lot of the ones worth playing don't bother with DLC either. Unforunately that's becoming rarer with time, just as games that are worth playing at all are becoming rarer with time.

>>15243475

Posting bastardized TFW faces is for Reddit.

Friendly reminder that preorder bonuses led to this as it conditioned people to be okay with not getting what they paid for.

>>15242318

I wasn't making an argument, I was really saying that it would suck not to have no internet, because then you can't download the game.

>>15243475

It explains why I got angry responses, "Imagine (X)" has been bastardized by soy fueled reddit snobs.

>>15243827

Probably, because of the blackpill you were dropping. Aslong as people have the ability of critical thinking(you know the thing that seperates us from animals) there's still hope. History always repeats itself and decadence leads to failure. So cheer up for christs sake.

>>15243980

Don't bother responding to it. It spams this shit constantly across multiple boards with the exact same wording every single time.

>>15243483

>they made his nose shorter

>>15239416

>All these retards who responded thinking this is sarcasm.

This reminds me of "use steam".

>>15244135

I just use multiple searches and occasionally you get results even for screenshots, webms, and mp4s. IQDB even has a quick "send search elsewhere" function for the likes of not having to paste or submit the file again. Usually I'm more lax about screenshots and webms when it comes to reverse searching, but it still doesn't hurt to try on one's own end first. As for that one, maybe the webm's just lucky enough to use the same thumbnail as what anidb has in their files, or they've got some frame sample thing the way some sites will have. Could also just be that that webm's popular enough to have been noteworthy.

>>15243339

I don't know of any 8th gen (or even PS3 or Wii) games that used multiple blurays of actual game content. Latest I recall was a few 360 games here and there, like Lost Odyssey using a whopping four discs.

>>15243495

There's a few cases of games on the PS2 where the second disc wasn't a demo, or extra features. Xenosaga Episode III's probably one of the more known examples, but Shadow Hearts: Covenant has a disc change after Japan unlocks as a location, and Sakura Wars V uses it in an odd fashion to avoid having to cut audio (each disc is the same game content, but different audio and text script; in effect, you only have to play and/or download one disc to get through the whole game) because Sega forced NISA's hand over it. But yeah, by sixth gen, it was getting rarer, Gamecube mini discs aside, and the PS2 itself had three iterations of storage media, with the amount of room expending between each: CD, DVD-5 (the most common), and DVD-9. So you'd get some companies that would spring for DVD-9 and still only have to use one disc to fit their game on, but there were still some others that decided multiple DVD-5s were going to be their way forward.

>>15252203

Welcome to spyro Madden's Footbal

>>15252203

Spyro is a sports game because yall got played.

>Sperging out over having to download shit

Out of all the stupid shit you degenerates could have chimped out about you choose this. I love in a fucking third world shithole and I have 160Mbit download with no data cap. But hey, keep telling me how Americucks and Britbongs have a better life. Sage for shit thread.

>>15252346

Sage negated. First world gets free shipping and kickstarter and 100+ cereals, but the cost of being at the vanguard of new technologies and industries means they get the worst of it too: carrier monopolies, cultural marxism, etc. Us third worlders have to wait a couple years but we get more competitive industries and can use them as sociological case studies.

>>15252432

You won't, but don't worry— I'm sure the EULA states you only licensed those games for one download and the rest is charity on their part.

The only reason they're even releasing it physically is for the free advertising via presence on store shelves.

>>15252346

Kill yourself for even defending this shit

>>15239634

>1.5gb

4.5gb

>>15252761

My fucking sentiments exactly. Thank you.

>>15239634

I wouldn't be surprised if blu-ray sizes have increased over the years, given that I think the largest physical PS3 games, DLC not included, were maybe 12 GB (though I could be wrong), compared to next gen games now being a good 40+ GB at times. I suspect some of that is compression to still fit the disc, given how often even in seventh gen games wouldn't run as is from disc and require an HDD install, or if the install was optional, still improved playing quality (ToV PS3 without installation, for example, would have item nodes randomly despawn, and the player get attacked by invisible enemies, turning an on-the-field encounter game into a partially random one). Though, if it is compression, and disc sizes have never changed, that's an awful lot of compression and makes me wonder why such games need to be so bloated to begin with. Unfortunately optimization becomes a "who the fuck cares?" once the problem is shifted to the consumer's end with HDD storage.

I Always prefered Crash to Spyro but i feel bad for those who were looking forward to this.

There goes any little interest i had in buying this.

>>15252786

>>15253737

>>15252203

>all this art

Wow people really like Spyro, huh? Seeing a Spyro game was the first encounter I had with the PS1. I remember got quite hyped at the idea of playing it someday, but by the time I got one I didn't really care anymore. Would you recommend the original trilogy, or is it just a run-of-the-mill platformer by now?

>>15252432

You buy the 2024 re-remaster, obviously.

I was actually interested in dropping some dish on this because I love Spyro and the graphical update looked pleasing to me. I'm really happy I don't feel the need to anymore but at the same time how can one company keep fucking up like this?

>>15252280

E621 will implode.

>>15254198

I don't think it would play like a run-of-the-mill platformer, but the draw isn't the gameplay exactly. It has superb art, music, and general feel. Screenshots and art don't do justice to how fucking nice it feels to play it, and how inspired each world and level feel. If you do play it I'd recommend getting a proper controller with vibration feedback for when you charge into grunts, and some nice speakers/headphones.

I hope I'm not raising your expectations too high and you can go in with an open mind, but I really love these games, especially the first one. I honestly haven't the slightest interest in a remastered edition because the game is already essentially perfect. The second two lose a bit of charm with the amount of minigames, but they're still great.

>>15252706

I strongly doubt this. Sales from Steam are always an afterthought (hence shitty ports and Denuvo), and at least Steam functions better than PSN or XBL. I don't know if anyone here has data on physical vs digital sales on non-indie games with simultaneous releases both physical and digital, but I'd be willing to bet that most games still sell more physical, though obviously publishers would like to change that.

>>15254198

They're some of the best platformers/collectathons of all time. More platforming than Banjo but less than Crash. Movement feels fun and there's great level design and lots of neat tricks you can do with the intended mechanics.

>>15254675

They are the ones who fucked up the franchise in the first place, along with Crash and many others. They did the passable Crash remakes and got hopes up that maybe they'd do these two franchises at least okay now, but no, they fuck up on the very next game, which again is only a remake. Didn't even get to making actual sequels.

>>15240700

What makes it not a good counter-point?

>>15254904

Not enough cheese graters.

>>15243761

>just play locals

kinda hard when nearest one is on the other side of the state. even if you do have a local you're assuming the people who go wont have completely terrible taste in games and only play smash, (((sfv))) and dbz. online has brought a lot of games that were more or less abandoned back from the grave.

no i don't have any real friends

>>15241095

do you play sc2 on dolphin netplay at all anon?

i really wanna learn the game before 6 comes out and having a practice buddy would be really nice

>>15255479

>i'm such a weeb that everything I look at looks like japanese culture and I have to announce it to everyone look at what a weeb I am lol

>>15267128

>kinda hard when nearest one is on the other side of the state. even if you do have a local you're assuming the people who go wont have completely terrible taste in games and only play smash, (((sfv))) and dbz. online has brought a lot of games that were more or less abandoned back from the grave.

>no i don't have any real friends

Then don't play multiplayer. Soul Calibur is well known for having good single player modes. Don't fall for the online jew just because you're too much of a fag to play single player.