d4055a No.15230670
Fate/FGO/Nasu general
Did you roll your summer waifu?
Summer Event Guide:
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/FGO_2016_Summer_Event
Part 2 of the event is time locked, so focus on getting Ascension Material for Scáthach (Assassin). She joins temporarily at the End of Part 1, but is permanent after Part 2.
7825ff No.15230844
are the materials for part 2 the same as part one?
4c8718 No.15230861
>Did you roll your summer waifu?
No, I'm waiting one more week.
>>15230844
The materials are different but the event CEs from part 1 boost their drop amounts too.
09c7de No.15231004
>Did you roll your summer waifu?
I did roll for Summer Tamamo and got her in 60 Quartz. Anne and Mary Archer did appear in the first 30.
ef91b4 No.15231058
>>15230670
>Did you roll your summer waifu?
Still waiting on Martha, but I'll throw my tickets and a couple of multis to the yuri pirates soon. After that I'll throw everything in hopes of ideally getting Martha to NP3.
d4055a No.15231188
>>15231004
My friend got her off a random ticket, and I got her off an impulse 10 roll, even though I'm saving for Merlin.
I can't wait to full ascend her and give her headpats
9a2aad No.15231196
Post the furry servants again.
017993 No.15231237
>>15230670
This OP is fucking garbage.
>Did you roll your summer waifu?
Both of them aren't available until next year, so no. I did get 2 copies of Yuri Pirates but I fucking hate them.
>>15231196
368d3a No.15231691
f8e312 No.15231855
>make everything in the island super comfy
>except Marie Land which doesn't really seem to fit
>the other two options are a modern football stadium or a fucking colosseum
122e66 No.15231910
>decide to single roll to get some CE to boost item gain
>get rider Mordred on first roll
Sweet.
cf236c No.15232338
The new "Command Code" system just released on JP and it's the worst fucking thing I've ever seen.
You need mana prism items in order to unlock individual slots on EACH fucking servant that correspond to one of their card slots (so Artoria would have 2 buster slots, 2 arts slots, and 1 quick slot), so you can slot in these shitty codes that are rarer than 3☆ servants from the FP gacha, only for massive benefits like…every time you attack with the one card out of 5 for that servant that you slotted the code into…you gain shit like 100HP heal or 3% crit damage. These bonuses only apply to the card that the command code is socketed into. You can't socket anything into NP's as of yet.
You know what the best part of this is? You need to pay more mana prisms in order to get more consumable items in order to remove these codes as well. So you can't change them at a whim like CEs. As if that didn't sound bad enough already, during the special "just released" command code campaign, you need to pay ONE HUNDRED fucking mana prisms for ONE consumable command code remover. You can do this 3 times to get 3 consumable removers.
Once you get those 3, or after the campaign ends, it's…get ready for this…1 RARE PRISM EACH for a consumable item that removes the shitty command code from your servant.
6a2e67 No.15232346
>tfw want to roll for Mordred but dont want to get spooked by the stupid lancer Tamamo when I could be getting Archuria instead
6a2e67 No.15232353
>>15232338
>1 RARE PRISM EACH for a consumable item that removes the shitty command code from your servant.
Holy fuck
>let me just burn all my 4* servants to unequip some shitty command codes
MPs is one thing but rare prisms… What the fuck DW.
b1b875 No.15232378
>>15232353
Yeah that's retarded. With how many servants in the game and always coming out with more, they need to be one time unlocks. I could see either being a rare prism to unlock all 5 slots on a servant, and then making it a mana prism investment overall to unlock specific slots, but fuck, Command codes already sound rare enough
7c2e29 No.15232394
>>15232346
Tfw np3 lancer tammy
6ad6e7 No.15232472
>>15232338
Better that the codes have negligible effect and be hard to remove, than to have a major impact and be hard to remove. At least the whales will figure out which ones are best fairly quickly, which should make it trivial to avoid needing to touch the consumables.
6a2e67 No.15232825
>>15232789
I know Ruton is
375395 No.15233359
6a2e67 No.15233403
>>15233359
>SSR card breaking down and becoming SR
They should totally add this into the game.
5d185c No.15233461
>>15233403
They would have to give all of the SSRs a different color. And if they did include the downgrade, could you imagine the salt?
017993 No.15233564
>Tamamo Cat got a bufff
>Max HP increase and allows her to prevent her own stun
Well, she went from garbage to average now I guess.
>Dragon Slayer get 20% Quick boost and damage boost to NP
Regend lives
3abd29 No.15233661
I hope Mordredbro gets his waifu. It's rare to see a love so pure these days.
Wanted Martha, but pulled Kiyohime instead. At least I pulled something.
0283ef No.15233673
is the welfare servant any good?
4dd849 No.15233674
>>15233661
Thanks for believing in me anon. Apparently I either miscalculated how many Grails were left or just didn't realize this event gives a Grail, but I'll be able to get Rider Mordred to LV 100 before fighting Goetia like I originally planned instead of just 98.
>Wanted Martha
She's not available yet. You have to wait for part 2.
017993 No.15233727
>>15233661
>rolled on the banner that doesn't have Martha to get Martha
>>15233673
Scathach? She's no Shiki but she's a free AoE Assassin who is slightly good for tanking. So she's good for farming if anything. Event welfare's are always worth it just because of how easy it is to get to NP5
5d185c No.15233788
>>15233661
>Rolled for a servant not released yet.
Roll for Mordred right now.
6a2e67 No.15233937
>>15233661
>but pulled Kiyohime instead
Are you a Wizzard Anchin?
e7c1c1 No.15234066
>>15233673
The only good thing about her is she is an np5 AOE assassin. AOE assassins are pretty rare, Her skill set is pretty poor. Her np gain is bad. She can make stars okish but other assassins do that better if that is what you want. She is pretty much just there for farming.
6ad6e7 No.15234094
>>15233673
Waves of 25k ghosts aren't going to clear themselves.
017993 No.15234108
>>15234094
>Scathach Assassin
>good at clearing ghosts
It'd be easier to run any of the dozens of AoE casters to do that then RNG insta death procs from Scat.
e7c1c1 No.15234111
>>15234094
AOE serkers do that job just as well and are still useful elsewhere.
3abd29 No.15234134
>>15233661
I'm such a dumbass.
at least it was only a single 10 pull
4dd849 No.15234144
>>15234134
At least you stopped yourself before you used all of it. I once wasted 150 sq on the valentine's banner trying to get NP2 Saber Mor, now if the 430sq/14t I'll have next week fails me that other 150 will haunt me.
d4055a No.15234170
>>15231910
Can Servants have children?
4dd849 No.15234178
>>15234170
Unfortunately no, not unless they've been incarnated with a Grail.
017993 No.15234204
>>15234170
Unless you are Medb no. Of course you're also not supposed to be able to gain weight as a servant as mentioned back in Hollow Ataraxia but then Grand Order rewrote that to be the Natural Body skill and introduced Caesar so who knows. The skies the limit.
5d185c No.15234227
>>15234170
Read the description of the holy grail, and then look what palingenesis does. That should tell you what you need to make babby.
4dd849 No.15234240
>>15234227
So what you're telling me is that LV 100 Servants can make babos?
5d185c No.15234251
>>15234240
Technically the 1st palingenesis allows bebeh.
4dd849 No.15234261
>>15234251
Nice, now if only Mordred were real…
9eb1d0 No.15234297
All i wanted was Jalter.
Yet i got okita alter.
this is my second lucky bag and it’s absolutely killing me inside.
>>15234229
tell me where you live so i can stab you in person you fucking luckshitter
017993 No.15234299
>>15234297
>thinks those are luckshitter rolls and not whale rolls
9eb1d0 No.15234318
>>15234299
i whaled and never got the shit that i want
so yeah, he’s a fucking luckshitter
9fbeca No.15234323
>>15234229
>He's into Scat
gross
e7c1c1 No.15234332
>>15234204
>and introduced Caesar so who knows
Caesar does not gain weight though. He is always like that when summoned as a saber.
4dd849 No.15234336
>>15234323
Fuck you Carlos
In all seriousness, I can't stand that nickname for her. I always just use Shishou instead.
cf236c No.15234349
>>15234318
You're obviously just bad at gacha rolling.
>>15233661
24f52b No.15234431
>>15234318
Are you sure you know what whaling means? At that level, luck really doesn't play much of a factor. That guy spent an average of $3300 on what's in that screenshot (assuming all his backup copies are NP1 and his main ones are NP5), but even if he was in the luckiest 10% of people he'd still have spent $2300.
Stop spending money on gachashit you retard.
017993 No.15234439
>profile of Caesar mentions he fucked a fae folk and had a child once
>wonder who the fairy in question was
>it's none other than Morgan Le Fay
>and Oberon is Caesar's son
Jesus Christ Nasu what the fuck.
4dd849 No.15234441
>>15234439
>Caesar fucked Morgana
>The fucking King of the Fairies is Mordred's brother
What
Where's the source for this?
017993 No.15234452
>>15234441
I should admit that it's not mentioned who specifically in Fate, but this line in his profile references Caesar managing to fuck a fairy once.
"A descendant of the goddess Venus, it has been said that this lady-killer had a child with a fairy that was far from human."
The only reference I can find in anything whatsoever that mentions Caesar fucking a fairy is an old French Poem "Huon of Bordeaux" about a knight named Huon who gets the help from the Fairy King Oberon. In this poem it's apparently stated that Oberon is the son of Morgan Le Fay and Julius Caesar. (Sion, C.M.H. (translated). Saints and She-Devils (Foundation Werkplaats Wetenschap, NL). Rubicon Press) So not only did Caesar fuck Morgan Le Fay he sired fucking Oberon.
4dd849 No.15234461
>>15234452
So it isn't explicitly confirmed for the Fate series, but it's the most likely possibility, then?
Even so, just the idea of that- Pendragon family reunions must be a clusterfuck.
017993 No.15234470
>>15234461
There's no mention of Caesar fucking fairies in other piece of literature I can find. So, if Nasu ever confirms the Caesar fucked a fairy for certain, it has to be Morgan Le Fay. The fact they bothered to mention it all is telling enough as is though.
7825ff No.15234491
>>15234227
what does plingenesis do? I grailed my raikou to 100 so saying that i can make babies with her makes me happy. so this is why they say to grail your waifu
4dd849 No.15234499
>>15234470
This information shouldn't be as earth-shattering to me as it is. That said, there's probably some convoluted, roundabout way ROMA would recognize Mordred as a king because of it.
>>15234491
>Raikou
I hope you're going to call her Mama while making her a mama.
017993 No.15234561
>>15232338
>You know what the best part of this is? You need to pay more mana prisms in order to get more consumable items in order to remove these codes as well. So you can't change them at a whim like CEs. As if that didn't sound bad enough already, during the special "just released" command code campaign, you need to pay ONE HUNDRED fucking mana prisms for ONE consumable command code remover. You can do this 3 times to get 3 consumable removers.
I've heard rumors that you only need removers if you want to keep the CC in question, and that you're able to override and "delete" the current one with a new one without a remover. So you only want removers if it's a CC you really don't want to lose but use it on someone else. Can't find anything proving it yet, but sounds a heck of a lot more forgiving.
cf236c No.15234607
>>15234561
I'm not seeing that information anywhere on the Japanese wikis.
>1度刻印するとリムーバーを使わないと外せないため、慎重に行おう。
It says that once you insert one, you need to use a remover to take it out, so be careful. I read the entire page but there are no mentions of being able to overwrite existing codes.
https://gamewith.jp/fgo/article/show/115017
b1b875 No.15234624
>>15234561
I kinda feel like the Glitter one is a bit too overpowered for what it is. I mean the rest are like 3%, or 5% but then Glitter comes out of the gate with 20% star gen which is almost as much star gen as a 4 star CE. I mean yeah Quick needs it but fuck. Already people are just gunning for that and not much else. To make matters worse why even put that on a quick servant like it's intended and instead just put them on their favorite buster servant and just keep using merlin.
It just seems like when every time they fix Quick they add something else to make sure it's crippled as hell. They bandaged our right foot just to turn around and shoot our left foot instead.
017993 No.15234646
>>15234624
I feel like the Code:Glitter and Code:Focus were supposed to help Quick servants by helping them generate stars with the Quick cards but get the crits on the Arts and Buster where is matters more. A majority of Buster servants have low Buster hit counts (Raikou come to mind), compared to their others. So while I will say it does buff the one's that have those, the amount of Quick Servants that benefit are much much greater. I will say Gilgamesh just got even better at sustaining his own star usage though.
I consider those two codes to be the most powerful buff that the game could give Quick without re-writing them completely.
cf236c No.15234673
>>15234624
The heal one is also okay, especially for high difficulty quests with lots of curse, poison, or scalding damage, or for BondHerk.
The glitter one is definitely the best one so far though. I really want to get one and test out on Jack how much difference it actually makes, but the rates for getting them are shit. Even with the 100,000 FP we got as a login bonus, people are only getting like 10 or so total after like 500 pulls.
cf236c No.15234678
>>15234673
I meant cure, not heal. The heal ones are shit.
b1b875 No.15234689
>>15234646
Eh, she still only has 2 buster cards, not to mention there's Musashi also that people like running, Jalter has multiple hits on her cards, Cu alter also does. Tamamo lancer, Drake etc etc, a fair amount of heavy hitter Buster servants have multiple hits on their cards already. I just can't help but feel like this is 2030 all over again, the difference is it's FP I guess
017993 No.15234702
>>15234678
The heal one's are good on servants who are survivable solos. Cu Alter and Cu Lancer would have a hayday getting 600 heal per a turn in addition to everything else in their kit.
>>15234689
Again I said majority. Their Buster hits being lower than anything else in their kit. You can see this philosophy all the way to Napoleon who only has a 1 hit buster count, and funny you should mention Cu Alter I've read he can barely get two stars out of his Buster after adding the Glitter. Makes sense considering all it would do is increase Buster's innate 10%-20% chance to drop per a hit to 30% to 40% chance to drop per a hit before any other factors.
b1b875 No.15234735
>>15234702
I hope so man, I just want my quick teams to be good again. I don't want to have it go three steps back again after they just released Quick Tamamo
017993 No.15234755
>>15234735
Actually I just did the math to check. So before I go any further, in case you didn't know the way star gen works. Every 100% is a guaranteed one star from the hit, up to 300% which is maximum. If you get something like 150% star gen, that means you are guaranteed at least 1 star per hit and a 50% chance to get a second star per hit. For the base star gen rates of Quick Cards, you have 80%, 130%, and 180% depending on slot in the order the card is. This means that by attaching a Code:Glitter. You raise them to 100%, 150% and 200% respectively. This means that for quick cards, it changes the chance to get a critical star into a ''guarantee" to get a star per a hit for a Quick Card in Slot 1 and 3 respectively. Which compared to the Crit cards I've already mention, is actually a far better buff that isn't obvious at first glance.
I'm not saying this will make Quick Teams tier 1 or anything just the buffs to Quick cards using the star gen cards is much better than the buff to Buster's the do the same. I feel like critical damage increase (even though meager) is a far better use for those Buster cards.
d4055a No.15234820
>>15234227
>>15234251
I had been holding off on Grailing Medusa, but now….
67112f No.15234895
>>15234251
>Grailed Asterios
O-oh…
6ad6e7 No.15234908
>>15234111
>>15234108
Fuck I meant wyverns.
I was being retarded.
>>15234336
The entire point of that nickname is to be demeaning, because of how obnoxious her fans were at the time of her introduction (and still are most of the time).
>>15234470
Nasu has generally given Morgan Le Fay as the daughter of Uther Pendragon, and that's not until a few centuries after Caesar was put in the grave. She became a lake fairy as a result of her descent into bitch queen of the Birtish Isles. Medb is also associated with the fae (Queen Mab) but even she's off by a good while in her Fate rendition. Vivenne (the Lady of the Lake) is probably still on the table, though. Or perhaps one of Morgana's ancestors. The fact the "Morgan le Fay" and "Morgause" are shoved into the same character really complicates affairs.
>>15234895
It's okay, he only wants Euryale.
f8e312 No.15234911
>>15234820
>not using doujin logic to impregnate everyone
>>15231910
58ed38 No.15234967
>>15230670
>another gachashit thread
51a196 No.15234975
As someone that watch/read Stay Night and Fate/Zero and new to Fate/GO, how is Extra and Extella?
f8e312 No.15234993
>>15234975
Both Extra and Extella have bad gameplay but good stories if you can tolerate the former. Extella in particular was so bad I couldn't do it, but I did clear all routes for Extra.
e7c1c1 No.15234996
>>15234975
Both are decent storywise and terrible gameplaywise.
4dd849 No.15234998
>>15234975
As someone who likes Dynasty Warriors games, Extella's probably the worst of that style I've played. The lore was pretty nice though, Archimedes in FGO when?
017993 No.15235010
>>15234975
Extra has terrible gameplay but great character's, the (not)sequel CCC is still not translated so fuck you, Extella is the direct sequel to alternate universe Extra and the gameplay is also garbage. Story isn't as good but tbh I stopped playing before Gold Poem Arc so who knows maybe it's fucking amazing after that.
6ad6e7 No.15235102
>>15234975
Extra uses a glorified rock-paper-scissors mechanic for game-play. You have to learn the patter and plug it in for each trash mob, and will have to kill a lot of trash mobs to keep your level on par with the bosses. The selling point is the story, which you can honestly just get from YouTube videos rather than enduring the game. It's pretty good. The only point of mechanical depth is the bosses - each boss Servant has an Information Matrix you want to fill in to get complete information. If you fight them without it, you have about a 50/50 chance at best - much lower, actually, since the enemies have their Noble Phantasm and a much higher HP total, while you won't get your NP until much later in the game. With the Matrix filled out, you know about half of what your enemies moves are going to be, and when they'll use their NP, so you can plan accordingly and not get wrecked. CCC is a pseudo-sequel (midquel?) that has no translations, but from what we know, is one of the wackier things by far in the Nasuverse.
Extella is a not-very-good musou with a poor story. If you're a secondary Nerofag - don't be this - you might like it. But even Nerofags who picked her up from the original Extra tend to hate when Extella did with her, and nobody else could possibly find the story anything better than drivel. I haven't played Extella Link yet, but it's apparently considerably better than Extella in terms of story, even if the gameplay doesn't really play. The only real reason to play Extella is if you want to play a musou with Fate characters. It's also worth noting that while Extella's main story is pretty trash, a lot of the side stories range from amusing to actually well handled, so it's not completely hopeless.
73dd2f No.15235206
Is it possible for Shirou or Archer to Project Rule Breaker? If so, could it in theory be used to cut Sakura's connections to the Crest Worms/the Shadow?
017993 No.15235226
>>15235206
>Is it possible for Shirou or Archer to Project Rule Breaker?
Are you fucking retarded?
73dd2f No.15235249
>>15235226
It's been like 5 years since I read it, and no I don't remember every detail.
c11349 No.15235257
>>15235249
Yes you fucking nigger, he projects rule breaker just for that exact purpose. It's a major plot point in the V/N.
73dd2f No.15235262
>>15235257
I just said I haven't read the vn in 5 years you fucking sped. Thanks though.
017993 No.15235278
>>15235262
Sounds like a great reason to go read the VN
Though this is probably bait since nobody could ask a question this specific and not have understood what happened. Anyone have the "Cu is red man" read the VN pic?
73dd2f No.15235300
>>15235278
>It's impossible for people to forget details of their least favorite route after 5 years of having not read through it
Yeah, sure. Besides, everyone knows redman is actually Kirei from the future.
e7c1c1 No.15235311
>>15235300
>Yeah, sure. Besides, everyone knows redman is actually Kirei from the future.
That's nonsense. Redman is Rin from a future where she became a magical gyaru tranny.
017993 No.15235312
>>15235311
Sadly we already have Counter Guardian Rin so that became no longer canon.
73dd2f No.15235361
Why is the Golden Fleece a NEET
24c4ab No.15235380
>>15235257
The real question is, could he have done it to save Saber from the corruption?
017993 No.15235401
>>15235380
Well, rather than the relationship Sakura had with the shadow, it was pretty self-evident that Saber contract was moved to the shadow, but still fundamentally altered by the transfer. I think you could transfer ownership from the Shadow to yourself but I don't think it would have saved Saber as the corruption had already been done. Contrast with Sakura who at least had her own personality distinct from the one Angra was projecting on her allowing her to break free, since she wasn't pure spirit like Saber, but a physical human being.
73dd2f No.15235407
>>15235401
So the answer is yes but also no, in that Shirou could have gotten Saber back under his command but she'd still be in her Alter form
6ad6e7 No.15235415
>>15235206
>>15235278
Honestly I wonder how many people actually called that.
>>15235380
RAW, Rule Breaker would break the contract between Saber Alter and Sakura, but it wouldn't undo her condition. In theory, Shirou could project Rule Breaker one last time on Sakura, and Alter could nuke the Grail while they ran out. In practice, though, I vaguely recall Saber dying being part of what let Rin beat Sakura. Plus HP=MP, so post-battle Alter would have been at 0 of each, so getting that Excaliblast off would be a stretch. That, and Alter probably wouldn't help to begin with - Saber-brand autism might lead her to help save them both, but it also might lead her to doing nothing.
017993 No.15235427
>>15235407
I believe so, it should also be stated that the shadow wasn't the main problem. As evident by Hollow Ataraxia, Sakura can command the shadow to do her bidding without going insane, it was Angra corrupting Sakura as an incomplete lesser grail that was causing Dark Sakura shenanigans.
017993 No.15235439
>>15235415
I think his question was more as a "was it possible at all" rather than the practicality of the situation.
>I vaguely recall Saber dying being part of what let Rin beat Sakura.
What's mentioned specifically is that when Shirou doesn't actually kill Saber she will go regenerate and defeat Rin because Rin can't fight Sakura and Saber at the same time. Saber just being there wasn't buffing Sakura in any particular way from what I recall, it was just a matter of reinforcements.
24c4ab No.15235448
>>15235401
>>15235415
Makes sense, but the thing is, they needed to beat Saber so Sakura won't recall her to kill Rin. But if breaking their contract makes it so Sakura can't recall her anymore, then there was no need to kill her there (even though she probably wanted to die as evidenced by the bad end). You'd think Shirou would want to try that even if it was another bad end choice.
7825ff No.15235454
>>15235448
then she'll regenerate and kill shirou and rider.
6ad6e7 No.15235457
>>15235439
It's not so much buffing her, as that once Saber goes into the grail, it's another Heroic Spirit in the pot. It's the same reason why Illya loses her consciousness after absorbing a certain point. Every Servant that died made things increasingly harder for her, even if making the contract with Angra Mainyu let Dark Sakura do her shit.
>>15235448
It would make sense from a storytelling perspective, in that you wouldn't want to reveal the twist, then have it not work, but then have it actually work. But yeah, it's interesting that it wouldn't cross his mind. SLH makes it clear that he can make multiple copies of the same NP, so it's not like he can only do each one once, but maybe that's an exception related to that specific set.
017993 No.15235470
>>15235448
Well, this applies Shirou had a good time to use Rule Breaker on Saber Alter. Unlike Sakura who was temporarily distracted by a loving hug from her sister causing her to have an identity crisis Shirou would have needed to manage to get in range for a hit with a knife while she was completely incapacitated. In addition, I believe it would take Shirou more time, skill and mana to project Rule Breaker considering it isn't a "sword" as much as a knife but that might be nit picky. He does end it on a chest stab but the reach of Rule Breaker is nothing compared to his proper swords. Also it should be stated that Shirou's mental state was also severely degraded at this point so it might have not even crossed his mind to "save" Saber, especially in the route where he chooses Sakura over her, favoring her more as an obstacle to overcome.
cf236c No.15235478
Just said fuck it and rolled for Jeanne to maybe get NP2 finally. Didn't get her, but it was an ok roll, I guess.
This was deserved after my shit guaranteed gacha luck.
24c4ab No.15235493
>>15235457
>It would make sense from a storytelling perspective, in that you wouldn't want to reveal the twist, then have it not work, but then have it actually work
Yeah that actually would be pretty awkward. But still, it's just one of those little things that go without a real explanation in the story.
>>15235470
>Also it should be stated that Shirou's mental state was also severely degraded at this point so it might have not even crossed his mind to "save" Saber
I considered this but then the VN makes you choose between killing her or hesitating, so I think that isn't really the case
6ad6e7 No.15235499
>>15235457
Checked on this: Yeah, the final scene doesn't show anything distracting about Saber going down. It's just implied in the Bad End that right before Rin went in for the stab (and then didn't) that Alter popped out and ganked her. That's the shit part of global PvP - Just when it looks like you've got the bastard on the ropes, one of his friends shows up and starts shooting you from the hilltop.
38bd82 No.15235660
>all these EOPs playing jp
w
d8d05f No.15235733
>>15235478
>guaranteed gacha
>actually paying money for gacha
Whales get out.
017993 No.15235737
>>15234227
>palingenesis means you can get the servant pregnant
>>15234895
>>15235701
>ergo, you can get male servants pregnant
38bd82 No.15235740
>>15235478
>paying money for a game you'll never be able to understand
W
e1816e No.15235761
>>15235470
Like the other anon, I haven't read the VN in a little while, but from what I can recall, aren't the projections Shirou is capable of flawed? In other words, they only resemble the original in design, not in functionality? For example, he couldn't project the gay buldge and use that. Similarly, he shouldn't be able to use Rule Breaker as Medea could use it.
cf236c No.15235763
>>15235733
>he doesn't spend money on gacha
I've only spent a few thousand on it anyway.
017993 No.15235771
>>15235761
If his Rule Breaker was flawed he wouldn't be able to use it on Sakura in the finale.
38bd82 No.15235773
>>15235761
>Like the other anon, I haven't read the VN
38bd82 No.15235779
>>15235763
>paying for this semen slurping kusoge
e1816e No.15235783
>>15235771
I don't remember that. I thought she came 'round when Shirou used the power of friendship.
6ad6e7 No.15235786
>>15235761
Gae Bolg is further removed from "sword", which hurts someone who's Origin is "sword". But the real issue with Gae Bolg is that even if he were to project it, he can't reverse causality with it, since that's something one Lancer could do. Even Scat can't do it with hers - she has to use rune magic to fake it. Or at least, that's theory. In practice, he's managed to do Nine Lives Blade Works, so it's kind of whatever the fuck works for the moment.
73dd2f No.15235787
>>15235771
Even then isn't it just non-sword Projections that have glaring lfaws?
017993 No.15235821
>>15235787
No, else the Rho Aiss that EMIYA projected couldn't stop GAY BULGE. It requires many times more mana, but they still work. The restrictions on his projections are that they are ranked down and originally he can't project divine constructs, but there's nothing inherently flawed about them. At best we get a quote about it being impossible for "copies to surpass the original" but that wasn't referring to design flaws.
>>15235786
Gay bulge casualty reversal isn't tied to Cu, Side Materials plainly state that her version is a fusion of both the thrust version and the throwing version that Cu did, with the difference being that Scat does both at the same time because she has two, but the casualty principle remains the same.
It should be stated that the original secret technique that the gay bulge referred to was the version Assassin Scat does, by kicking it with her foot it hits the enemy and spreads out until the body resembles an inverted pin cushion.
73dd2f No.15235843
>>15235821
I've just chalked Excalibur Image up to MoonCell bullshit tbh.
017993 No.15235846
>>15235843
Shirou also projects divine constructs in Kaleid Liner so I don't think anyone in a relevant position cares anymore.
73dd2f No.15235854
>>15235846
>Kaleid Liner
So at this point the rules for Projection are just 'whatever looks cool/fits the story' huh.
Is Prillya any good?
7825ff No.15235861
>>15235843
the reason for that is because the animators made that animation with out telling nasu and nasu didnt want to make that hard work go to waste so he hand waved so it is cause of moon cell bullshit
017993 No.15235869
>>15235854
I personally haven't read it since I got burned out right at the introduction of Kuro. The SoL segments just didn't suit my taste very much so I tend to avoid it but the more serious later arcs look far more entertaining from what I can tell. Just be prepared, if you don't like magical girls it's going to be an uphill slog.
>>15235861
Doesn't explain Prisma Illya bullshit
6ad6e7 No.15235882
>>15235821
The "foot throw" technique is the original (and the one that's in the actual legends), but that's not a technique to reverse casuality. Cu taught himself the technique to reverse casuality - Only he can do it. Scat mimicks it with Gae Bolg Alternate, which is using one Gae Bolg to pin, and another one to deliver the fatal blow. Even the animation shows how it works, in contrast to the technique Cu performs. The effect is similar, but the methodology is entirely different.
>>15235869
>>15235854
Prillya doesn't follow the same rules. That's been clarified before at some point. It's a spin-off that operates under its own logic to a degree, so characters can get away with things they can't elsewhere. That doesn't necessarily mean that something in Prillya can't be performed outside of it, but it means you should take it with a grain of salt.
In terms of quality, don't expect much until around 3rei. There's some good scenes before then, but it's the minority. There's currently all sorts of good shit, including a few nods to Notes, of all things.
017993 No.15235936
>>15235882
The only canon phrases that state something to do with Gae Bolg can only be done by Cu is.
>Because of its huge size for a throwing weapon, nobody except Cú Chulainn was powerful enough to wield it.
From Complete Material II. Which isn't referring to the reverse casualty effect, but the thrown version. What's your source on Cu only being able to do the reverse casualty version?
24f52b No.15235944
>>15235854
It's the only good part of Fate.
73dd2f No.15235950
The summer rateup has changed. It's just Anne/Mary and Tama Lancer right now. Mordredfag, abslutely do not summon until the 6th at the earliest.
>>15235944 alright, but what if I'm not into lolis?
6ad6e7 No.15235982
>>15235936
Side Material states clearly that Cu developed the technique on his own. Nothing implies that there isn't anyone else in the world who could figure it out, but none of the techniques which Scat uses are the same as Cu's. I swear there's also a piece out there commenting on her using Rune Magic to produce a 'stun', but I can't find where. I'm also pretty sure there's a quote in either one of the Mats specifically referring to Gilgamesh not being able to perform the prototype, even with the prototype copy.
In any event, Gae Bolg Alternate specifically does not reverse casuality in its function, and there's no evidence of anyone else having done it.
24f52b No.15235993
>>15235950
I implore you to reconsider.
095a76 No.15236169
>>15235102
The problem with that is the only one I found is a faggot playing a Tamamo route on new game. Just do Nero first for the plot, and do the other two for characters dude.
f8e312 No.15236240
Looks like the request in the drawthread didn't pan out. I'll just leave these here in case someone sees these and gets inspired.
e7c1c1 No.15236738
>>15235950
The manga does not go nearly as heavy on the loli fanservice as the anime unfortunately. There is really not much to worry about or look forward to on that front. It's got some really cool action scenes though.
c00519 No.15236909
>>15236240
I hope they turn him into a girl when they make him summonable.
7825ff No.15237479
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I never played the kingdom hearts phone game cause i always thought it would be a piece of shit and whenever i hear anyone talk about it that just confirms it. This game has powercreep so when you pull a 5 star it will eventually be no good compared to the new 5star and they added pvp which just makes it even worse so now you need to spend to remain competitive.
09c7de No.15237727
>>15237479
It's kind of a trend most mobile games fall into. Even FGO's usual comparison when it comes to rates, Fire Emblem Heroes, has powercreep at inconsistent intervals.
017993 No.15237837
>>15237479
As much as people like to bitch about F/GO having the worst drop rates of any mobage, they are also one of the few to avoid power creep entirely outside of some challenge quests maybe. All servants are pretty much as viable as they ever were, and older units are constantly getting buffed like Cu just go an ignore evasion, damage multiplier increase and a instakill percentage buff on OC effect on NP FUCK YEAH.
Oh and Cu caster got a buster up on his and a damage buff.
5d185c No.15237928
>>15237837
That's what I'm shocked about. They could have continued the powercreep well after Memelin but they still make alot of servants no better than from the first chatper. Hell, I'd argue that alot of the first servants still hold up even to this day. They could also get away with it since this game still makes money hand over fist.
09c7de No.15238120
>>15237837
It's not as bad as the SMT mobile game.
0.5% for a 5* demon on top of having Archetypes (think of them as FEH's IVs) is utter bullshit.
5d185c No.15238230
>>15238120
Someone actually did the calcuations for a rate up. Their way of rate up is a few select demons (example 3), and a .5% chance to get any 3. So that's .166%. Now, throw in Archetypes, to get the one you want that's a 1/4 chance. So 0.166% / 4, the gray archetype not included: 0.0415%. Imagine 0.5% without a rate up.
09c7de No.15238249
>>15238230
At that point I'd rather farm Boss cards in Ragnarok Online.
7825ff No.15238319
Why would i play that phone game with incredibly bad rates when i can just play an SMT or persona game can fuse the demon i want with the skills i want?
2aa7d4 No.15238341
>>15233661
Astolfo is best servant!
5d185c No.15238363
>>15238319
It's the newer looking models that follow Kaneko's art design and not the purseowner shit. Still shocked that they used Kaneko's Tsukuyomi design even when CAVE made theirs in Imagine.
7825ff No.15238443
>>15238363
its more sad seeing that since its wasted on this
e7c1c1 No.15238681
>>15238363
The 3d models are legitimately the best part of that game. They really look good and capture the feel of Kaneko's art well. It is a shame they are wasted on such a shitty game.
5d185c No.15238729
>>15238681
>>15238443
The models can thankfully be extracted, however, it's just the models, not the rigging and animations that actually allow movement. They would have been fantastic to use for Imagine…
5f6c95 No.15238756
>>15238729
The game burns battery like crazy, but at least it looks great. They'll probably reuse the models and animations in, say, SMTV.
017993 No.15239026
So, reastraining my self to Grand Order servants because if I have to start diving into shit like capsule servant it will never fucking end. I managed to chart out the various grievances mentioned last thread to see what the biggest offender was. It should be stated I counted each servant individually for consistency (this means every single Artoria clone and Alter counts as a genderbent servant besides Arthur), all swimsuit servants are considered Donut Steel due to being unique to Fate, and all Alter servants are also considered Donut Steel.
It turns out that Donut Steel servants are the largest offender of any of the three groups going over 25% of servants are some variation of it, next would be Japanese favoritism, followed by of course genderbent servants. And fuck you I am too lazy to make these charts prettier.
017993 No.15239040
>>15239026
I should also state that all Pseudo-servants were treated as Donut Steel, but given the origin of the respective Heroic Spirit inside them. (Zhuge Liang is a Donut Steel but he counts as coming from China.)
9e1338 No.15239129
Weird question but do we know how tall the Fantasy Trees are? Also, do we know what kind of tree ROMA's NP summons? Based on the animation I feel it might be an oak, but I'm not sure.
ef91b4 No.15239901
>Throw tickets and a couple of multis for the lesbians
>Halfway through the 2nd multi
>Based Herc spooks me and brings me the lesbian pirates right afterward
Herc is the fucking strongest. He saved me about 416 quartz for Martha, the absolute madman.
cf236c No.15240216
>>15238341
I want to get fucked by Astolfo.
ede9ca No.15241167
I think I may have found the one thing worse than the people who spout shit about Shirou being sexist
>"Hburr durr Arturia did nothing wrong evar"
>"Muh food"
>"Who's Morgana, it's all Mordred's fault lol"
>"This religious zealot is totally believable as a doting grandpa"
Arturia's so forgiving it's a fucking flaw for her, but apparently the mere idea she might have a higher opinion of Mordred than trash/they could possibly reconcile even with tons of therapy is just a step too far for some people.
Is this what Mordredfag has to deal with?
2cb71b No.15241266
>>15241167
It's really fucking stupid. Considering even up to driving a lance through Mordred's chest she "didn't despise her". I want to chalk up their relationship to Artoria being so austic and socially awkward she can't bear to look at Mordred let alone interact with her directly. She's not an ass because she hates Mordred but because her spaghetti is constantly falling out. tbh Mordred would an embarassing "son" to have anyone deal with but I digress
2144a6 No.15241488
>>15230670
>Paying money for jpg's of anime girls
gee anon you know google exists right?
e7c1c1 No.15241534
>>15241488
paying money ruins any sort of fun the game gives. Making what you luck into for free work is what makes the game fun.
cf236c No.15241921
>>15241534
Getting and raising your waifu/characters you love is what makes the game fun. The gameplay, and by extension, what works, is and always has been secondary. You can beat most of the game with all level 1's except for friend supports anyway.
Since I'm autistic, though, I try and get as many 5☆ as I can, so I usually do the paid guaranteed gacha at least because that's all a NEET can afford.
b1b875 No.15242279
>>15237837
>The buffed Cu
>He now has even more NP damage as well as an Invul pierce on his NP
The absolute madmen.
>>15241266
That's pretty much the thing I was bringing up earlier, she even says over and over she doesn't hate Mordred she just didn't see her fit to be king, so the idea that not only is it canon that Artoria hates fucking Mordred, she never forgave her is confusing to me when people lesser known for their forgiveness managed to close to the tail end of America but the one servant known to be forgiving to the point of her own downfall and beyond, doesn't forgive her son for being a sperg.
e7c1c1 No.15242326
>>15242279
Sure hit, not invul pierce. He can hit through evasion.
b1b875 No.15242348
>>15242326
Ah, my bad, thank you
cf236c No.15242353
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>2018
>Q not being shit
What's going on?
His meltlilith is NP3, but still. The normal Q crits are pretty gud.
d2f8c6 No.15245451
>>15241167
>>15241266
>>15242279
There are MANY things I could say about the tendency of not just this fanbase, but society in general, to either whitewash or downplay Morgana's role in the downfall of Camelot (Assuming she's evil in said adaptations), but I don't want to waste everyone's time with a giant autistic rant.
tl;dr:
>Morgana's portrayed as a force of evil and mage so strong she's the only one that can match Merlin
>Keyword being EVIL
>Camelot is destined to fall no matter what
>Specifically engineers Mordred for the sole purpose of killing Arthur so she can take over
>Abuses, neglects, and intentionally stunts Mordred's growth to accomplish this
>By some miracle, or just incest baby autism, it doesn't take
>Devotes entire life to supporting Arthur instead
>Other knights ignore her at best
>Morgana tells Mordred she's Arthur's son and feeds her ego
>Likely the only positive reinforcement she had in her entire life, and it comes from her abusive mother
>The rest is history
Fucking hell, the poor girl died way too young, and without having ever experienced any kind of love from anybody, no wonder she's an autistic manchild. She probably has some kind of mental illness, but because it isn't like Kiyohime's no one cares.
This isn't to downplay the shit Arturia went through in life, or how she got raped by her sister than killed by the rape baby, but when it comes to these two people act like Morgana doesn't exist. And like >>15241167 said, these are usually the same people who have no problems accepting King Hassan as a friendly grampa figure. They also lose their shit if you so much as imply IRL Columbus wasn't Pirate Giga Hitler, but that's beside the point.
For something more light-hearted, any fantasies I have about Moedred recently aren't even me making love to her or anything, it's just normal shit like skating, surfing, cuddling, holding hands with her.
Only 5 more days.
7825ff No.15245499
>>15245451
>>15241167
the grampa hassan is a religious zealot?
e1816e No.15245532
>>15245499
Jiichan is like one of those strict Catholic teachers you get where anything less than perfection is a death sentence - quite literally in Gramps' case. But his relationship changes a bit when you're his master (or 'contractor') and it's a bit more like he's taking you under his wing as a teacher.
In other words, NO FUN ALLOWED, CHARACTERS MUST BE REALISTIC EVEN IN NON-CANON EVENTS KING HASSAN WOULD KILL YOU GRRRRRRRRRR
bbd5bf No.15245533
>>15239026
Calling fan service character donut steel seems to be stretching it to me. What does the chart look like if it's only actually fully original characters?
d2f8c6 No.15245568
>>15245499
All of the Hassans are.
>>15245532
Pretty sure I never said that. Pretty sure my whole point is that people acting that way about Arturia and Mordred pisses me off. Also the events are canon.
ea8b8c No.15245656
>>15245451
Mordred deserves nothing but scorn, Morgana did have a lot to do with the downfall of Camelot but Mordred also made her own decisions and always made the wrong ones.
017993 No.15245900
>>15245533
Do you take issues with pseudo-servants being donut steel or Alter servants?
bbd5bf No.15245923
>>15245900
Let's split it and say Pseudos are, due to copying an OC's design, Alters aren't.
017993 No.15245931
>>15245923
Okay, moving on. Cases for "parallel universe" versions. Is Ivan the terrible donut steel? I count him, Scathach Skadi (as in her profile it states she has little to do with the one from "common history) and Lancer arturia since it's an all original "goddess" version of King Arthur.
bbd5bf No.15245992
>>15245931
1)Hm. Lost belts are a tricky one because they are non-donuts with donut qualities shoved in. I guess calling them donuts is fine
2) Lancer Artoria is not the Lion King, those are two different characters.
017993 No.15246009
>>15245992
I know she isn't the Lion King. Let's take a look at her profile.
>The legendary King of Knights who controlled Britain, King Arthur.
>An "if" King Arthur who, after rising as a king, made the holy spear its main weapon instead of the holy sword and governed over Britain.
Having lost the growth-halt from the holy sword, she grew to a physical age fitting for a king. She became an existence closer to Divine Spirits due to using the holy spear, but since the period of use was just that of ten-odd years, her mental structure・spiritual make-up has not changed too much.
>closer to Divine Spirits
>Divine Spirits
She's not full goddess mode but she might as well be for all intents and purposes.
017993 No.15246012
>>15245992
Oh shit, I forgot the better entry.
>Although she takes a human form, she can no longer be called a Human Heroic Spirit. Due to the properties concealed in the holy spear, she has changed・mutated into an existence closer to a Divine Spirit - a goddess if anything.
bbd5bf No.15246048
>>15246012
I see. Still, it's a hard call. Truly the line of whether something is an OC or not is tricky. If you say it diverges too much from the proper real life counterpart then you run the risk of having to pass that judgement on almost every character in the series, from the original Female Arthur.
Perhaps it would be better to retract the previous statement about lost belts and say "anything that is not based on an entirely unique to the series character is not an OC" just so we don't fall into a really dumb rabbithole of when a character has been altered too much.
The other alternative would be precisely to say an OC is when a character has been altered beyond recognizably from who it's supposed to represent, but the original Saber Artoria would fall into that category as well. And that judgment would risk calling the original complaint a meaningless gesture in the first place as it's a work of fiction and thus OCs should be expected, which probably wasn't the intent there either.
I've become autistic about this now so I should stop while I'm behind.
017993 No.15246104
>>15246048
This entire argument is why I included all Alter's as Donut Steel by default, since the reason they are Alter is locked to things only relating to Fate (Shadow from SN, Medb fucking with Cu, Santa for Christ's sake) and if I'm not counting "fan service" character's as OC, this leaves Mecha Eli as something "historical".
Artoria, Nero, and Raikou, the three servants who suffer the most from "doesn't match historical appearance" have historical justification in Nasuhistory. (Artoria and Nero were crossdressers, Raikou's parents were hiding the fact she was a women as well as the fact she was an oni) While Alter servants or parallel universe one's are only justified by things happening in the current events of the story. (Medb makes Cu a fuckboy, Shadow corrupts Artoria, Jeanne Alter was never meant to exist so now she has a child self but that child self should experience Christmas and she's Santa now, King Arthur became close to a goddess due to Bedivere in alt universe not putting it back.) It makes it incredibly simple.
>Cu has a Caster class
>justification is he was taught runes when he was alive
>Cu is Nasu history was taught runes so he is a Caster
Clear, concise, straightforward, Cu caster is not OC
>Eli is an Alter-Ego Kaiju machine monster
>the reason for this is that the castle suffered from one too many Halloweens and dispatched it's final defense system
>Eli Alter Ego exists in Nasuland due to Nasu current events
OC, the justification for this existing is only because of current events.
Any other system requires that the person making the list make personal judgement calls on what is or is not a "OC enough" to qualify.
e7c1c1 No.15246132
>>15245532
Gramps is not nearly as much of a hardass as he acts. He even lets cursed arm live at the end of Camelot.
>>15245931
Apparently there is real world precedent for the Scathach Skadi overlap.
bbd5bf No.15246135
>>15246104
>Nasuhistory
But if you have to resort to a fantasy version of history to justify it, how does that make it more legitimately not OC? That just seems like a way to stretch the rules to arbitrarily allow things like gender flips which would otherwise fall outside the boundary, but are too much of a series staple for that to be allowable. If we go by what Nasuhistory would call legitimate then Lost Belt servants would be completely historical, just not in this particular timeline, even though they would have little basis in real world history.
017993 No.15246142
>>15246135
>That just seems like a way to stretch the rules to arbitrarily allow things like gender flips which would otherwise fall outside the boundary, but are too much of a series staple for that to be allowable.
This is why gender flips were considered a seperate issue and were tallied separately.
ef2d38 No.15246161
I guess this is a Nasu general so I might as well make my inquiry.
Yes, I'm aware of this >>15235226 and plan to get around to it.
Specifically, it has to do with Kirei Kotomine and Tsukihime. Again, >>15235226 I need to get around to this and I'm only vaguely aware of some mechanics of the Nasuverse.
Kotomine's a character who's captured my attention and from my perspective I'm surprised fans don't really focus on him. From my observation, Ciel tends to get more attention for representing the Church in canon especially in Melty Blood.
I've always wondered about the exact details of how Kotomine would go about hunting Dead Apostles as an Executor. He probably possesses the capability even if he's not part of the Burial Squad, but most of his feats are muddled by the fact that he was augmented with Command Seals and we don't really see his performance without them and just his Circuits. Additionally, I'm trying to get a good grasp of how Black Keys work. I know that they can pin shadows but that apparently requires a specific Sacrament of which there are several. What if you were to throw it towards a person's shadow who has no magical potential and isn't violating and warping the laws of the universe? Do they just act like regular thrown knives then?
I swear this isn't for VS autism
bbd5bf No.15246175
>>15246142
I understand that, but that's just a rule patch. You could make exceptions like that across the board and end up with very different results. Things which are "true" history, like Yagyu Munenori for all intents and purposes who is probably the closest thing to an actual historical figure in the game if you ignore his power level. Things which are "True-ish but exaggerated", which I guess would classify most servants, but like Shakespeare or Anderson. Things which are "completely made up but based on real figures, and would be identifiable as such", like Napoleon, and too a lesser "identifiable" extent Gilgamesh. You could easily separate servants like this but they would all fall under Nasuhistory's "Not OC" qualification before you hit the immensely obvious ones that are genderflips.
The more I try and think it over, the more the term OC becomes meaningless. But that's probably just my autism. Clearly there are characters which have taken no basis from sources outside type moon like EMIYA or Illya or the Alter Egos which would definitely be OC under anyone's classification. But when you get into "what ifs" of characters being OC then the line blurs really fucking quickly, as every single one of them is basically an official fan fiction loan character.
017993 No.15246231
>>15246132
There's plenty of overlap between most European mythologies due to Proto-Indo-European origins of all the languages involved. It's why Greek is so similar to Norse is so similar to Vedic (Basically Proto-Hindu) mythologies. The Skadi being a goddess associated with violence and death is similar to how fucking pissy Hera was at almost every hero and how violent Durga is from Hindu mythology. Of course simply due to time and retellings there are differences but the overall structure is very similar. Even more so for the relatively geographically close Celtic and Norse mythologies in question. However, Scathach being Skadi is a fundamentally different matter and is explained in her profile.
>A "completely different person" compared to the Scáthach from the common history of man, recognized as the only god in the Lostbelt, whose nature is closer to being a queen.
Alt universe is basically "what if Scathach wasn't a relatively minor goddess from Celtic mythology but the only God alive and head honcho?"
>>15246175
The problem you're running into is the fact you are in someone's own universe and playing by their rules. By definition, every single character in this work, even if based on a historical person, must be manipulated in some way to have a place in this story since they must fit inside Nasu's servant system. So technically everyone's OC, but that's not what people are complaining about. People (or one guy in these threads) complain about genderbending, someone else brought up OC, and I'm pretty sure first guy brought up Japan Favoritism as well. Because, technically, every single character in these works are OC (else he couldn't copyright them) we are indeed drawing arbitrary lines in the sand no matter what we do. So, the rules I stated are for the most logically consistent that don't rely on personal judgement (Eli being a Kaiju is OC but Eli being a Caster is not), but rather simple tags that word in general attaches to these things (Alter, Swimsuit, "non-standard classes" (used in some swimsuit and Halloween Elizabeth profiles in Side Materials
0). Alternate Universe from "the common history" are obviously just that, alternate Universes for the sake of more creativity in character designs, and thus, the writes, divorcing themselves from real history, have to decided to no longer bend history as a creative medium but break it entirely and go on their own way.
Again, the standards I set are not because I personally believe that all Alters are OC, or that all Elizabeth's should be considered as such. It's the only way to remove personal judgement and indulgement as far as arbitrary decisions so that anyone can read the sentence "all Alter are considered OC" and accept it as a general guideline. It would be disingenuous to associate the complaints about OC with genderbent character's as the complaints for each respective category is different fundamentally in why the complaint is being made. Compare "Why is this OC in my history shit? I want more history shit. Why are there a dozen King Arthur clones?" to "Why are these characters girls? I want King Arthur but not female "Queen" Arthur.
Further complicating the matter is the fact that historical anecdote's, even if fake, affect power levels. (Mata Hari was not actually a good spy but the government hyped her up so much that to any person whose every heard of her she would be considered one.) This creative freedom is a diffirent because again, one is bending history to suit one's need, one is abandoning it completely into your own mechanics (EMIYA)
6ad6e7 No.15246920
>>15246161
>Additionally, I'm trying to get a good grasp of how Black Keys work. I know that they can pin shadows but that apparently requires a specific Sacrament of which there are several.
Keys should be able to pin anyone's shadow if you know what you're doing with them. Church sacraments in general are more effective against anything that has drank Catholic blood - Which was why it was important for Arc to know if Shiki was one or not. If I'm remembering correctly, if a blood drinker gets injured by a black key, it prevents the injury from regenerating, which removes the greatest advantage Dead Apostles have. Most Executors don't actually use them (presumably even less so in Fate), with exceptions like Ciel (who has a stupidly high level of MP, and can spam them like Rin spams Gandr's) or Kirei (who has autism).
>I've always wondered about the exact details of how Kotomine would go about hunting Dead Apostles as an Executor.
Kirei would have fought similar to Ciel - Except not as strong, nowhere near as fast, and without access to any of her Magecraft from Roa. Kirei is, simply put, not good at Magecraft - The only area he excels is in spiritual surgery, in which he is, admittedly, the best that we've seen. While removing the Crest Worms from Sakura would hypothetically be a trivial feat for Medea, for any modern Mage, being able to pull that off at all is pretty damn impressive. It's important to keep in mind, though, that the Dead Apostles he's fighting would be on par with the random Dead that even Shiki was effortlessly cutting through in Tsukihime. The real danger would be Mages. But, as we know from HA, Kirei was pretty smart, and managed to avoid a few TPKs in that manner.
>From my observation, Ciel tends to get more attention for representing the Church in canon especially in Melty Blood.
Melty Blood doesn't include any Fate characters, so obviously Ciel is there. But her and Kirei both are only used as Church representatives in a joking sense. Ciel isn't even a Christian. Kirei is, but he's a broken person in other ways. Caren is a bit more of an engima, but is probably a better example of a representative, even if her faith level is probably below her father. It's also worth noting that Prillya chose Caren as its Church representative, and only added Kirei once shit started to hit the fan.
As a note off of that - Pretty much every Church rep that gets show in the Nasuverse is either an Executor or member of the Burial Agency, and is either physically or mentally fucked up in one way or another. Amakusa is the least fucked up person to pick up a black key, and that's saying something. The only person we've seen from one of the regular Knightly Orders is Roast Beef, and for her part, she's a genuinely good and well-balanced person whose only sin is the Purest Form of Love (hell, she's probably one of the most "good" people in MB).
>>15246175
>>15246231
There's been creative liberties taken with every Servant since F/SN, so you really do have to draw the line at some point, no matter how arbitrary it is. Seriously - Point one Servant in F/SN that's fully accurate to history/legend. The closest is Medea or Herk, and even those two have their problems.
911493 No.15246941
>>15246920
Well the male Japanese folklore servants tend to be pretty close to source. Servants like Hijikata seem about right too.
017993 No.15247240
>>15246920
>There's been creative liberties taken with every Servant since F/SN, so you really do have to draw the line at some point, no matter how arbitrary it is.
This is just restating what I was saying, so yes, I agree with you.
d8d05f No.15247784
>>15246920
>Point one Servant in F/SN that's fully accurate to history/legend
Redman is pretty accurate, if you believe the theory that he's Shirou's mixed race grandson from the post-NWO brown future timeline.
eaa3e9 No.15248263
Finished Extra anime
>Gawain gets good death, so does Nero
>Vairocana no where to be seen
>Twice just sort of disappears at the climax
>Saved Rin instead of Rani
>Completely skipped the fourth round
>That one pink haired girl is basically there for nothing, but they keep showing her for some reason
>Alice and Nursery Rhyme practically removed
I hope they make a CCC anime after this, and give us Tammy
09c7de No.15248309
>>15248263
With how shitty this show was? I'd rather just wait for the fan translation never ever.
095a76 No.15248348
>>15248309
They're doing their best, translating is hard.
017993 No.15248643
>>15248348
>trusting an SJWeeb to do a good job
c12eeb No.15248678
>90 SQ
>10 summon tickets
>no summer tamamo
017993 No.15248696
>>15248678
>shocked that something that only had 24.5% chance to succeed failed
c12eeb No.15248708
>>15248696
I'm not shocked, I'm just sad about this entirely predictable series of events.
b8fbc2 No.15248779
>>15248643
Pretty much the moment I stopped caring was when I found that out. Shame.
095a76 No.15249020
>>15248643
The CCC guy is an sjw?
017993 No.15249371
>>15249020
He's the type of fag that retweeted that shitty Persona 5 Resetera image about "muh localization" and "muh LGBTBBQ"
https://archive.fo/mZPWL
I'd say he's more weeb than SJW but it doesn't change what he is.
7825ff No.15249453
>>15249371
he is the worst kind of sjw/weeb. he is a SJWEEB
b1b875 No.15250556
So going over Tamamo Lancer's Lines and going over what I know of Tamamo no Mae; is the reason why she shifts from being romantically involved with Hakuno to being Romantically involved with Gudao is because Amateratsu is mostly in control or am I getting the wrong idea here?
e7c1c1 No.15250660
>>15250556
Summer Tamamo and Nero Bride are versions of the characters that never met Hakuno, created because because people were upset they were cucking themselves with their otherselves.
b1b875 No.15250717
>>15250660
Nero bride yes, But Summer Tamamo is still the same Tamamo. Her Dialogue and bond Lines at least seem to suggest the fact and also that in the summer event itself she's still Tamamo just in a lancer Class.
Then again Kiyohime goes from referring to you as Anchin throughout the event but when you actually summon her she straight up refers to you as Master and all. I'm not sure here what to go by
285c53 No.15250890
>>15250717
Kiyohime calls you Anchin regardless of which version she is, mainly because she's fucking crazy and overlaps Anchin with you.
017993 No.15251344
>>15250717
The source for Nero Bride being alternate universe Nero is Nasu blog. http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/log/201602.html
and her extra profile after interlude.
>Passing away without meeting her fated spouse, this pure white Servant continued to fight despite not having her fated meeting even after becoming a Servant.
>In other words, a figure that vanished in dreams, without ever participating in the Holy Grail War of a certain virtual world.
I can't find anything similar in Tamamo Lancer's profile no matter what, in fact, Lancer's profile presents the opposite as true.
>"Indeed, that's exactly right master. Despite being the original, she is a Tamamo-no-Mae who stuck one foot into the Tamamo-Nine… the hunter of the sea, also known as Tamamo-Shark."
Where this is just normal Tamamo taking on the aspect of one of the nine. There's no source I can find that states she's from a parallel universe which is quite the opposite from Bride. Maybe Tamamofags made it up to make themselves feel better.
7825ff No.15251382
tamamo lancer is not a different servant like nero bride but just regular tamamo putting on swimsuit using an umbrella as a spear. basically a joke servant
b1b875 No.15251936
>>15251382
>>15251344
Well that's why I asked, I think because of the extra description on her profile and some subtle things she said during the Summer event, she says she has "aspects of Amateratsu leaking from her" But I'm wondering if that also means she's mostly taken over by Amateratsu and Amateratsu just wants to dick you down. I mean it's the not the first time a beast candidate has wanted to that's for certain
e41797 No.15251991
>>15251936
>you will never mating press a giant, fat-titted, wide-hipped, Japanese Sun goddess foxgirl
Why live?
82b3e7 No.15252118
017993 No.15252141
>Edmond NP became the equivalent of Serenity to Curse teams
I guess?
b1b875 No.15252163
>>15252141
Yeah I'm confused about that too. But hey Damage increase is always nice. Though I'm more mad that you have two bronze assassins and neither of the buffs were for Mata Hari or Phantom. They're still good buffs but damn, at least give something to those two
e41797 No.15252189
>>15252141
I was hoping the Avenger buff would go to Gorgon (Or Manjew to really fuck with people) but that's neat. So what kind of team would do Curse memes the best?
017993 No.15252236
>>15252189
Well, for servants who can inflict Curse, you have Mephisto, Waver, Tamamo Lancer, Chiyome and Dante of course. I mean, it has Waver, but it seems like the team has very little synergy between the Arts and Quick servants.
017993 No.15252266
>>15252236
Well, those are all the servants with Active skills that cause curse damage. I suppose there's also Benkei, Mozart, Elizabeth, Jeanne Alter, Diarmund, Lancer Alter, Gorgon, Atalante Alter if you count NPs, but if you're running Edmon, Waver, Jeanne Alter teams is that really a curse team anymore?
b1b875 No.15252273
>>15252236
To make matters even more fucky you have Normal and Halloween Elizabeth
a2762b No.15252281
>>15252266
Sounds like it's more to continue to blow the fuck out of Rulers even more than anything else with that sort of line up.
017993 No.15252287
>>15252281
I'm sure that Ruler is feeling the 3000 Damage per turn extra from curses and just ignored the Jeanne Alter NP to the face
a2762b No.15252293
>>15252287
The Alter NP isn't going to be as bad as the Alter waver-boosted crits, but that's splitting hairs. Again, continue blowing them out, not causing them to be blown out.
6164a6 No.15252707
Apparently the Last Encore drama CD had Fenrir as the Servant of that new and completely unimportant pink haired girl.
They both get killed offscreen by Rin on the first floor.
095a76 No.15252826
>>15252707
Are you fucking kidding me? It keeps getting worse. Why was Pink even there, do they say at any point? What's HER motive for joining the grail war, and how does she know Rin?
017993 No.15252837
>>15252707
>>15252826
Her name is Misao Amari and it's a crime this bitch didn't make it to the final cut. She was born from her mother "sleeping up the social ladder" and was obsessed with becoming powerful and popular herself. When she popped into the MoonCell though she get incredibly discouraged because she's gutter trash as a mage. She instead decides to shack up with Shinji and be his secretary. Can you just imagine the outrage over Nasu including a person who
>was born due to her mother being an absolute slut
>who is an absolute slut
>can't do anything on her own
>and forms a relationship with Shinji
I would have rated Last Encore 10/10.
In addition Fenrir shows up in the newest Lostbelt getting eaten by Sutr to power him up. Apparently Fenrir is a cool enough cat (dog?) to get an Authority. So I don't know why the fuck he's a servant but that's cool I guess.
ea8b8c No.15252856
>>15252837
She just sounds like a female Shinji.
017993 No.15252865
>>15252856
That's the best part. When was the last time you had a female character in a Nasu work who was a complete and utter failure in every regard? The fact she didn't make it in speaks volumes about what Nasu wanted to say but couldn't in the anime.
e7c1c1 No.15252871
>>15252837
Nasu has said his favorite servant is Medb before. He loves sluts.
6164a6 No.15252873
>>15252826
Apparently she and Fenrir made it to the third floor at some point, but came back down to the first and helped Shinji create his police force, which is composed entirely of NPCs.
Like >>15252837 said she wants Shinji's dick She was also the one controlling the berserk Darius/Fergus/Leonidas.
We know Fenrir's a Divine Spirit since he has an Authority and that he has Gleipnir as an NP.
Also, Fenrir was referred to by the name of 'Vanagandr' instead, likely to lower him enough to let him be summoned as a Servant.
017993 No.15252907
>>15252871
But Nasu said that if he could marry any of the characters in the Fate series he would dick Rin. Unless, oh no.
https://www.tsukikan.com/misc/kinoko-and-takashi-q-a-fate-stay-night-unlimited-blade-works.html
6164a6 No.15252911
>>15252907
TOHSAKA PLEASURES OLD MEN FOR MONEY
e994b6 No.15253034
276 quartz and 32 tickets for 2 Lion King and a bunch of CE. No caster Scat, not even a single 4* servant (all I wanted was a saber Lancelot to have him np2). Now I remember why I quit. Guess I'll keep logging in daily for the 10 tickets, roll them during Summer event, get nothing and quit again until next anniversary or something.
38bd82 No.15253792
>>15252907
>>15252871
Nasu is a girl, retards.
38bd82 No.15253794
>>15253034
Based EOP jp player
6164a6 No.15253847
>>15253792
I've seen this thrown around before but there's never a source with it. Do you have one?
ea8b8c No.15253859
>>15253847
It's just a meme.
38bd82 No.15253879
6164a6 No.15253887
>>15253859
Oh, okay.
>>15253879
I hope you are happy together, Takeuchi
7825ff No.15254030
>>15252871
>>15252837
The final boss of CCC is a slut and the heroine of the heavens feel is sakura who is a slut.
095a76 No.15254667
Elizabeth is the cutest, she is my wife. You may, however, admire her singing.
017993 No.15256190
>Babylonia segment of Grand Order is going to get an animated TV series
>Camelot will get two movies
>Both probably animated by Clover
What on earth.
501272 No.15256482
>>15256190
Only the Series is Clover Works, the Movies will be by Production I.G.
0a7b2e No.15257002
b1c505 No.15257051
>>15257002
Is your news tab broken faggot?
0a7b2e No.15257084
>>15257051
I know when it comes. But its too long and part 1 gacha sucks
Part 2 when?
58ed38 No.15257101
>>15256482
>the winner gets a wish from the holy grail
yea they get any wish, as long as that wish is for destruction.
017993 No.15257376
>>15257101
Depends on the holy grail. Stay Night Fuyuki ritual was fucked up due to Angra so even if the original was fully functioning it's not a fair comparison. The one's featured in Fate/Grand Order also don't seem inherently fucked, rather the places Solomon puts them are to be given to people who would use a grail evilly as opposed to be inherently evil. They were given by Solomon though, so they're probably not trustworthy. However, the grail featured in Apocrypha seems perfectly functioning and was able to grant a pretty massive wish, the only limitation there was that Sieg couldn't stop the last wish that had already been made he was only allowed to modify it. But that's not about the wish granting being limited per say as much as the grail terminal being limited once a wish is already made. So we have at least one example of a grail that is not acting completely stupid and didn't mention any particular restrictions on it's wish granting and actually granted the (modified) wish in question.
And for the Mooncell (which is basically the holy grail in extraverse) I don't remember any hard limitations on that one either. Only that Twice was killing anyone that wasn't going to wish for war again, and that NPCs that became sentient weren't allowed to use it. Does anyone have an example of a non-corrupted grail being unable to fulfill a wish? The only hard limitations I can find is that the grail can't do the thinking for you. i.e. you can't wish for something without knowing the means with which to do so a la Kiritsugu's hallucination, but again, this is a limitation caused by the human using the grail as opposed to the grail itself.
7825ff No.15257823
After building the iron house i realize how retarded Mordred is
875c38 No.15258037
>>15257084
Part 2 gacha sucks too until August 10th
775386 No.15258038
>>15257823
>get two reasonable suggestions and one retarded suggestion
>go with the retarded suggestion
Even if you were just doing it for the prisms, you are still in the wrong.
6ad6e7 No.15258113
>>15257101
>>15257376
The Grail's presumably all have limits, we just don't know what all of them are. The Fuyuki Grail is always limited by the admittedly vague restrictions of Einzbern's magecraft, with the two bonus functions of creating a bridge to the Root, and performing the Third Magic. The massive fucking wish in Apoc could be granted because it was exactly that last function, except on a massive scale to cover the entire human population.
785be7 No.15259019
176 days playing this (F2P only) and I finally got my first SSR Servant, Ozy, from a ticket.
I was wanting an aggressive Lancer, but I guess this is okay?
875c38 No.15259042
>>15259019
If you consider the guy considered to be the best Rider "Okay," sure.
785be7 No.15259049
>>15259042
Oh, certainly. I just am not looking forward to chain hell, that's all.
e7c1c1 No.15260187
>>15259049
Chains are not that bad.
e90f8a No.15260791
>>15259049
If you only 6/6/6 his skills, you only need chains to ascend. After that, you can further upgrade his skills later with event stores. Serenity needs chains just to reach 6/6/6, fuck
017993 No.15260860
>>15260791
You're not getting close to your full use of Ozy until you max out his third skill though.
c15b5c No.15261821
Anyone got a farming guide for part 2?
095a76 No.15261832
c15b5c No.15261978
>>15261832
I was hoping for a nice JPEG like the part 1 guide, but thanks anyway.
1b5407 No.15262106
>>15261973
Two Jeannes, but at least they aren't both the 5*s.
Also something about a new Cthulhu.
017993 No.15262606
>>15261973
>not one but two guaranteed Jeanne Alter event servants
<still no event Nero or Tamamo
These are truly dark times we are living in friends, dark times indeed.
6ad6e7 No.15262875
>>15262606
>forcing human beings to endure a welfare Nero or Tamamo shoved in their faces
Reddit Alter and Scat being thrust into our roster is bad enough. Get us a welfare Medusa or Ushi (Titty Adult). Throw the Mordredfag a bone even. Hell, pick one of the guys, like with Kintoki - get use the 4* Ruler Georgios or Rider Caesar we deserve. Maybe a sniper EMIYA or something. Even better, a new character (or characters, as was the last case) like Prelati. Literally anything other that shitty fucking waifubait - the least they can do is not shitty waifubait.
d7d6ac No.15262908
>>15261821
If you mean the servant chart, the part 1 guide (and this one) came from cirnopedia.
b1b875 No.15262913
>>15262875
>4* welfare Ruler Georgios
This please. Any reason to have a Welfare Ruler I'd be down with. Even better if he was a quick ruler too, since that's the type of ruler we're also missing.
ac77cb No.15262918
>>15262875
>complaining about waifubait
>when it's the summer event welfare
bf98cf No.15262940
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>>15262875
>Literally anything other that shitty fucking waifubait
I haven't played anything beyond the two VNs, but doesn't the rest of this series rest precisely on that with some half-decent writing thrown in?
6ad6e7 No.15262942
>>15262918
Read nigger:
>the least they can do is not shitty waifubait.
>not shitty
It's not hard to find a character that isn't shit.
Fucking Musashi would have been better.
ea8b8c No.15263027
>>15262875
>everything i don't like is shitty waifubait
ac77cb No.15263055
>>15262875
>forcing people to endure not one but two Jeanne Alters in their roster
I forgot it was okay when Jeannefags get pandered too
d33bec No.15263098
So I rolled the 10x six times, and threw down 30 summon tickets trying to get archuria and/or ruler Martha. I was too impatient to wait for two days so I ended up getting spooked by caster Marie. On the plus side, this was my second last 10x (I used tickets first). I guess having the event CE's isn't so bad either. I'm also only missing one imaginary around to LB it.
017993 No.15263176
>>15262875
>Literally anything other that shitty fucking waifubait - the least they can do is not shitty waifubait.
<everyone's waifu but mine is shitty waifubait
>get use the 4* Ruler Georgios or Rider Caesar we deserve.
I want these characters too, doesn't mean that almost all female servants aren't waifubait, and if I'm going to get it shoved in my face I want diverse shit. One Jeanne Alter was bad enough.
>>15262942
>my waifubait is better than your waifubait
086ae9 No.15263178
>>15263098
>Fucking Geronimo
Threw a few tickets myself and that guy just wouldn't stop clogging up the summon. Did get archuria so I'm saving the rest for Martha.
09c7de No.15263683
Now Mordredfag can taste his waifu.
017993 No.15263713
>Scathach taunts FeMC about giving her a penis with runes
Oh baby
d4055a No.15263778
>>15261832
>>15261978
I'll probably have to make a quick jpeg for the Servant/CE bonuses.
d4055a No.15263833
>>15263778
Forgive my shit paint skills
017993 No.15263850
>>15263833
We already have this >>15262908
c43794 No.15263989
>>15235783
>>15235787
Heaven's Feel Shirou had changed so much his flawed copies became perfect copies surpassing Emiya, but Shirou's rule breaker still works even Zelritch's knife Shirou made based off blueprints was still flawed and that worked just fine for Rin.
b1b875 No.15264231
>>15263683
>Implying Artoria isn't a fat enough fuck to still eat such a cocktail
d4055a No.15264347
>>15264231
>Artoria eats Mordred
d8d05f No.15264364
>>15264347
>>15264231
>Kiyohime gets cucked out of her vore fantasies
b1b875 No.15264398
>>15264364
>>15264347
I meant the Churros and Soda you fucks
6ad6e7 No.15264399
>>15263027
No. There are things I dislike that aren't shitty waifubait. That's just one thing I don't like.
>>15263176
>my waifubait is better than your waifubait
It literally is, what of it?
>>15263989
That's not how it works. HF Shirou was using Archer's arm for projection. His being different didn't make it easier - it contributed to him getting fucked up, because EMIYA's internal world was different from his own.
d4055a No.15264480
>you will never be raped by Kiyohime in a bikini
Why live?
258a28 No.15264556
>>15264480
>you will never be murder-raped by Kiyohime in a bikini
If she was real she would solve two problems at once.
68f361 No.15264571
Final totals before I summon for Mordred tomorrow: 440 quartz, 18 tickets. Anyone mind telling me my chances?
>>15263683
That's about what I expected from Moedred, yeah.
>>15264347
>>15264364
>vore
Shut
>>15264556
Kiyohime wouldn't kill you unless you lied to her though, then after she'd probably kill herself too out of guilt/so that not even 'til death do you part'
38bd82 No.15264576
e7c1c1 No.15264577
>>15264480
It's not rape if you want it to happen.
d4055a No.15264585
68f361 No.15264596
>>15264576
Thanks.
>>15264585
>ArturiaxMordred yuri
Maybe they just needed to hatefuck each other this entire time.
e7c1c1 No.15264613
>>15264596
Futa is not yuri it is better
68f361 No.15264631
>>15264613
But which of them is the futa? Trick question, it's both.
5d4c92 No.15266760
>pick squirtoria to farm blue lingots in cave
>mfw spammed not once, not twice, but thrice her NP in the last battle
>mfw battle ends with her NP charged for a fourth time
Why Gil and Tesla are better than this bitch again? >inb4 meme tier list
017993 No.15266770
>>15266760
Tesla sure isn't, but Gilgamesh still hasn't received his NP charge on his third skill which makes it so not only is he good at massively critting but spamming NP as well. if you're going for full NP spam than yes Squirtoria is superior but once Merlin meta is up Gilgamesh is the far better servant because he can crit as hard as Squirtoria can NP, while NP everything himself as well.
5d185c No.15267127
>>15266110
Banana Oni Summer Time soon.
e7c1c1 No.15267553
>>15266760
A combination of Merlin and AOE NPs that hit for ST damage. Squitoria is still one of the best arts servants though.
9efba6 No.15267573
>>15266760
It Hurts!! is pretty good.
d4055a No.15268061
>they keep using "problematic" unironically in the Summer Event
f6bddc No.15268086
Alright guys, I'm about to roll.
pls lend me your energy.
>>15268061
You know 'problematic' is an actual word, right?
017993 No.15268095
>>15268061
I'm haven't seen an SJW version of problematic this entire event, just using the word for what it's actually supposed to mean.
>>15268086
Good luck Mordredfag
d8d05f No.15268106
>>15268086
Stream it, faggot. I was promised a stream. If you don't stream, you won't get her.
8a2257 No.15268108
>>15268086
Best of luck Mordredfag.
f6bddc No.15268112
>>15268106
I can't get any streaming to work on my pos computer, I'll throw the recording on Cytube
6ad6e7 No.15268113
>>15268086
Seconding this guy:
>>15268106
Stream it and you'll get NP2+
b8ded0 No.15268124
>>15268086
My brother's and I have prayed for you.
e1816e No.15268125
>>15268086
No luck for the veteranfag
f6bddc No.15268132
>>15268127
I'm white, faggot.
e1816e No.15268139
>>15268132
Wanna prove that? You do realize that we have trouble believing your word. The other waifu fag on this board constantly shits up the thread he posts in and is a spic.
017993 No.15268143
>>15268132
Please do not take the bait Modredfag
38bd82 No.15268146
>>15268132
>I'm white, faggot.
b1b875 No.15268149
>>15268086
Good luck Mordredfag, may your rolls be NP6
e7c1c1 No.15268160
>>15268086
I hope you get her so I don't have to dump the boar piglet Mordred ntr set.
e1816e No.15268181
>>15268160
Now, now, I dislike mordredfag as much as you do, but by no means does it excuse posting NTR. Certainly not inhuman rape.
017993 No.15268187
>>15268181
The sequence isn't rape, and honestly it would be thematically correct if Mordred doesn't get his waifu. Of course the chance of that is around 8%~
d8d05f No.15268200
>>15268187
8% = 100%
>>15268181
Consensual NTR is the only thing worse than noncon NTR
e1816e No.15268207
>>15268199
>>15268193
this art is shite
e7c1c1 No.15268248
>>15268199
>>15268211
You should have waited until he did not pull her dubsman.
d62d3c No.15268360
This whale I added is dangerous
d8d05f No.15268394
>>15268360
>doesn't have 10/10/10 NP5 Angra in his Extra slot
Unfriend him immediately, he isn't worth having.
e1816e No.15268397
>>15268394
Dont you know that Angra is Whale's Bane? The one thing they can't pay for to get.
017993 No.15268410
>>15268397
Well, eventually, the Rare Prism shop will have the options to purchase FP. You can't full on whale but you can quartz => SR and SSR servants => Rare Prism => FP => Angra
In addition whales usually have faggots lining up to use their shit as well, meaning the earn a lot of FP from supports as well. It is true that it's impossible to whale straight for Angra with cash though.
d8d05f No.15268479
>>15268410
>You can't full on whale but you can quartz => SR and SSR servants => Rare Prism => FP => Angra
I can't imagine anyone actually being retarded enough to even consider attempting this.
017993 No.15268492
>>15268479
I can barely imagine anyone throwing enough SQ to get 5 copies of the same 5* servant. People who are perfectly fine throwing tens of thousands of dollars. What's your point?
d8d05f No.15268505
>>15268492
My point is that I'm not a complete drooling retard so I have difficulty understanding why anyone could even consider blowing several thousand dollars to get what is both canonically in story and possibly also in gameplay the absolute worst, weakest character in a gachashit mobage, especially when that character is neither waifubait nor fujobait.
e1816e No.15268508
>>15268505
He's absolute bro material, though
b1b875 No.15268516
>>15268505
They are really Autistic and reread Hollow Ataraxia at least three times a year?
6ad6e7 No.15268517
>>15268505
>My point is that I'm not a complete drooling retard
See:
>People who are perfectly fine throwing tens of thousands of dollars
Spending $100 on a game is fucking stupid. Spending $1000 is insanely stupid. Stop thinking and realize that the people doing this do not rationalize the way your or I do.
d4055a No.15268672
>>15268397
>wasted all my saved FP for Fate Zero
>nothing
>few weeks later get Angry Manjew off a Free Roll
c711fb No.15268700
Decided to check out fgo again only getting 3 levels in or so from half a year ago. Had 70 star things to summon roll. Got marine card, marie antoinete, and Martha. Equipped marine card, did 10x roll again, BOOM Altria Pendragon 5 star. Did I luck out guys or what? Says 5 star is .7% drop rate. Can I marry her? She's a cutie. Also Summer event ends in a few hours. Ha. My luck.
e7c1c1 No.15268704
>>15268700
>Altria
secondary go and stay go.
fe5ff5 No.15268739
Holy shit
HOLY SHIT
My recording shit itself, so I unfortunately can't post a video, but I did it guys, I got her. Rider Mordred came home on my last 3 quartz. Despair turned into joy in an instant. I'll post pics after I'm done leveling her.
017993 No.15268747
>>15268739
Can't screencap either?
Also, did you pull Father-in-law? Any other 4 or 5s?
fe5ff5 No.15268756
>>15268747
I can cap, I'm just enhancing her before I post all of them.
No father-in-law, but for new Servants I got Rama, Helena, Tamamo Cat, and NP2 Tamamo Lancer. I also have 4 MLB Twilight Memories now, so that's something I guess.
c711fb No.15268768
>>15268704
I don't understand that reoccuring joke. Alt.. altria is very cool.
424fdc No.15268770
>>15268768
A-R-T-O-R-I-A
Her name is Artoria.
Fuck outta here with that Altria shit.
d8d05f No.15268773
>>15268768
End you're are self.
>>15268756
If you streamed it, you'd have gotten her to at least NP3.
fe5ff5 No.15268792
>>15268773
You're probably right, but I'm just happy I got her at all. Now I can start saving for best daughter Abigail.
09c7de No.15268809
>>15268770
To me Artoria will always be the guy from Dark Souls.
Arturia or bust.
7825ff No.15268813
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fe5ff5 No.15268842
>>15268832
I'll change it back to normal tomorrow.
fe5ff5 No.15268892
Enhancement is done for now.
38bd82 No.15269077
>>15268892
>NP1
Might as well collect that Rare Prism, bro.
e7c1c1 No.15269208
>>15268892
If you don't open that wallet you can assume the other 4 copies needed to np5 her are cucking you. Are you a cuck anon? Are you gonna let your waifu cuck you?
51bee7 No.15269304
>>15268892
Grats, Mordredfag. Give the rest of us whatever luck you have left over.
122e66 No.15269333
I've been slacking on the event and now I have to rush through it. At least I got over 90 golden apples to help in the long run.
>>15268739
Congrats, Mordredfag.
>my last 3 quartz
Wew. What would have happened if you failed. Would you go full-on whale?
09c7de No.15270454
Who's ready for Archer Jeanne, Assassin Ushi and Lancer Ibaraki?
e1816e No.15270682
>>15268892
>np1lets
Kinda embarrassing.
330e33 No.15271754
Finding this event to be kind of trash. I mean the grind and event shop is normal enough, but the story is just not worth it. First time I'm just skipping anything.
Wanted to go fishing with Cu, not have all the male servants act like betas because nips have no confidence and can't handle guys in their self-insert fantasies.
Also had been saving for Memerlin, but ended up blowing my load on trying to get Squirtoria. Got a Ruler Martha instead, oh well. She's not bad, I guess, even if her first skills conditions are annoying.
>>15268892
Noice. Grats, fucker.
6ad6e7 No.15271813
>>15271754
Part 2 is pretty fucking awful. The story inserts go from discussions between the cast about possible developments, followed by a quick scene with whoever you supported, to boar piglet memes. Much like an actual city, the development you choose has little bearing on the actual aesthetic of the island, because it's all just awful looking urban shit. But even Part 1 gets put down a few pegs by the incompetent SEAniggers shoving dated memes into shit (why the fuck did they remove YARIO?).
The only upside is that farming the Level 90 is actually a little bit less obnoxious for a few of the nodes than the grind through the Level 80 nodes up to completion. Even then, they're a lot more obnoxious than in Part 1, thanks to the way that event bonuses are divided along the class lines.
09c7de No.15271862
>>15271813
>the way that event bonuses are divided along the class lines
Tell me about it.
>Saber only node only has one Archer for bonus drops and a bunch of Lancers
5d185c No.15271887
>>15268892
Congrats MordredBro! I managed to get her through a lucky 3-quartz summon. I got Summer Kiyo from the 1st 10-roll when this event started.
24f52b No.15272169
>Throw a ticket at the Squirtle/Marie banner to see if I get a CE or something and because my autism compels me to spend a ticket on every banner
>Gold spinnies
<eh?
>Gold archer
<probably spooky NP3 EMIYA or something
>Seiba (Archer)
I really don't know how to feel about this. On the one hand, finally getting an SSR isn't bad. Especially one who's in the top dozen or so in terms of viability. The problem is I already have everything ready to take Kuro to level 100 10/10/10. Since their roles overlap so much I really wonder when I'm gonna even use her. Apologies to everyone who really wanted Archuria and missed getting her, but I think she's gonna rot in my storage for the foreseeable future.
5c2003 No.15272276
>>15272169
>overlapping roles
I have Gilgamesh, Orion, EMIYA, Tristan, Atalante, and now Archuria (and welfare Nobu), but my only gold Lancer is Bathory and I don't have a single Ruler or Avenger. A little overlap can be useful but it gets ridiculous.
c711fb No.15272983
>>15268770
No I knew that. I know the japanese pronounce Arthur like A-ru-tu-ru, and the ru for romaji can be lu or r. I only typed Altria because I assumed she was named Alt as being an 'alternate' form character, summer version. I was wrong. Otherwise I would have typed Arthuria, didn't know its Artoria thank you.
e7c1c1 No.15273090
>>15272983
Go read the fucking VN before you post.
f98d91 No.15273499
>>15273090
I finished the VN about a month ago and couldn't tell you the proper spelling of her name. They don't even mention her actual name often, can you blame him? Too many gay re spellings, I rather just call her Arturia and get it over with.
09c7de No.15273655
http://duel.fate-go.us/
They're up for preorder.
By the way, if you click Saber's pic she's named Artoria.
bbbbe1 No.15273905
Good news everyone, they got Mordred's pronouns right this time.
>>15273655
I wonder what they'll go with in the Extella/LINK translation
ef91b4 No.15273908
>>15270454
Judging by the servants announced in the CM, only Ushi and Ibaraki interest me in this banner. At least I'm glad I won't have to save up for that summer so I can save up for Skadi when she comes to NA in a billion gorillion years.
>>15271813
Part 2 was fucking awful but at least Edison made it bearable, sadly he got in too late to salvage what was left of the story. Having the island being unreachable and having a weird sense of time and space because of it being part of Dún Scáith was a pretty nice twist, though, I'll give it that. It should've stayed like Part 1 where the servants just goofed around and got actual input for building stuff. Instead we waste our fucking time with the piglets failing hard at humor and just suggesting the alternatives in a few lines. Even building the damn things feels pointless since the servants hardly have some entertaining/interesting remarks about it. I'm just gonna get the lores and do whatever.
>Part 2 was written by Higashide
Surprising absolutely no one, what a mess.
017993 No.15273940
>>15271813
>>15273908
Yeah, boar piglets were great when they couldn't talk, then they opened their mouths and everything was trash. The only joke I thought was funny was that the piglets would be on display at the zoo and even that only gave a slight chuckle. Part 1 was many times better and more fun, to build and for the cutscenes.
>Having the island being unreachable and having a weird sense of time and space because of it being part of Dún Scáith was a pretty nice twist, though, I'll give it that.
That was nice but I hate that everything we just did gets undone by the fact Scat left a rune to undo it all and just let the piglets live like savages after a taste of civilization. I also don't like all the praise Scat gives the little faggots
>I believe in them after all, they never made weapons
<entire civilization gets bodied by demonic boars destroying everything
<have to be saved by beings they weren't even sure existed
<at least they didn't make weapons!
>>Part 2 was written by Higashide
Where did you find this out?
ef91b4 No.15274100
>>15273940
I recall reading an interview somewhere a long time ago that mentioned Nasu being the writer for Part 1 while Higashide wrote Part 2; however I can't find it anymore. Disregard that until then, I suck dicks. It really wouldn't surprise me, though.
e7c1c1 No.15274137
>>15274100
I can't find the source either, but I think you were correct. I recall reading that too.
5abe3b No.15274262
>>15273905
They'll probably do it fairly well, the mobile division just seems to be shit.
017993 No.15274267
>>15274100
>>15274137
I think you're confusing the summer event with Extella. With the 1st one being written by Nasu, but LINK being written by Higashide. Those two are creditted plainly as such.
38bd82 No.15274295
>>15272169
Np1 Archuria is worse than NP5 Kuro anyways
e7c1c1 No.15274312
>>15274295
Only in raw np damage. Kuro lacks np drain and the defense up that Archuria has.
38bd82 No.15274330
>>15274312
>rolling for a literal welfare sidegrade
w
e7c1c1 No.15274342
>>15274330
>locking down a bosses NP almost singlehandedly is a sidegrade.
Kuro wins on cute though which is way more important anyway.
d98e28 No.15275255
In the VN it's written in a way that can be read as "Altria", but when you look at the big picture it makes no sense to call her that. For one, she plainly says her childhood name was Artorius and her name as king is Arthur—and the feminine version of the former is Artoria.
For another, when you listen to it being spoken out loud it is plainly spoken with an R. Aru-to-ri-a.
https://youtu.be/gEX9qtgketk?t=23m12s
And if we go by nip standards, then are we also to use "Medousa" and "Load" when they mean Lord?
b4b53b No.15275276
>>15275262
>ushi isn't wearing a fundoshi like in the CE
BULLSHIT
017993 No.15275937
>first 5* MoonCancer
>first 4* Foreigner
And it was good
7825ff No.15276485
So THATS why Ritsuka is always molesting Mash. That explains it
5d185c No.15276899
The banana oni NP is exploitable.
5d185c No.15277120
>All ascensions actually change banana oni's art in the NP.
Neato!
dca257 No.15277266
So there should be about a week in between this event and the Prillya one right? I got a lot of new female Servants I need to level for it.
>>15275937
So is MHX connected to a Lovecraftian deity too, or are they just going with "from a different universe" as the reason she's a Foreigner?
b1b875 No.15277412
>>15277266
Different Universe stands to reason as being part of the Foreigner class since in literature a lot of lovecraftian things sometimes had nothing to do with the Gods themselves, such as The Great Race or The Hounds of Tindalos (Hounds especially, they have nothing to do with Eldritch gods and dwell on the Angles of Time)
017993 No.15277428
>>15277266
The dataminer only got the images, the NP, and the first two skills. None of the profile information. We most likely won't see an explanation for the Foreigner class summoning until she can actually be obtained.
dca257 No.15277459
>>15277412
>>15277428
Ah, okay. So she might be connected to an Outer God, but we don't know yet and it isn't a hard requirement anyway. I wonder if there'll ever be a Foreigner Counter Guardian?
b1b875 No.15277488
>>15277459
Not a bad idea, seeing the Ring of Restraints is completely different than the Throne of Heroes, it could pass off as another universe entirely.
Emiya "Mind of Steel" Foreigner when
08818d No.15277830
>>15277266
>>15277412
Both MHX and her Alter are also listed as the "Star" attribute because Nasu thought it was funny to give it to the "aliens", even though that's not what it's usually supposed to mean. So whatever rules (or suggestions) exist, don't expect them to be followed.
b1b875 No.15277874
>>15277830
I'm confused about the Star Attribute myself, I thought it meant those who already knew the secrets of the universe or some such but then I read it's like those who not only did great deeds, but changed all of mankind's destiny. and they list Mozart there but not like, Shakespeare isn't? Florence Nightingale wouldn't count under that distinction either?
3cd65c No.15277881
So do you guys play both JP and NA?
017993 No.15278105
>>15277830
All parody and summer servants should not be taken seriously in regards to lore. It's because of swimsuits that the "irregular class" concept got introduced about servants being things they simply shouldn't be.
>>15277874
Star attribute is pretty bullshit. Doing things never done before is the Pioneer of the Stars skill, but being Star attribute is just being "a symbol of hope for humanity". With such a loose definition all kinds of people are in that make little sense. Romulus obviously founded Rome but is a symbol of hope? Is Scathach? Why on earth is Sherlock a Star? It's the special snowflake category to make people seem more special than they are.
>>15277881
I tried JP and I realized I was only interested in the story and I wanted to read it on my own terms. While I'm working on learning Nip Nasu uses words in strange ways near constantly and makes up his own vocabulary half the time.
d8d05f No.15278405
>>15275255
Google translate says it's Altria, that's probably why they use Altria. Are you expecting localizers to actually be capable of doing their job?
e7c1c1 No.15278452
Gareth apparently has a portrait now.
09c7de No.15278455
>>15278452
I'd make love to her and her rosy cheeks.
a40f80 No.15278466
>>15278452
This is the one that got so disgusted at herself she scrubbed her fingers down to bone and had Gawain Onii-chan run her through in the Camelot backstory right? Poor Gareth, she's cute.
e7c1c1 No.15278498
>>15278466
That's her, poor cutey only even joined the lion king in the first place because Lancelot did.
ef91b4 No.15278535
I came here to laugh at you in the name of my king.
>>15278452
Cute/10, would roll for
a40f80 No.15278559
>>15278498
>>15278535
I kinda hope her armor gets more heavy and imposing as she ascends, but with her cute face always visible. She'll probably be a Saber whenever she's added but I wouldn't mind a new 3 star Shielder either. Though it's more likely Shielder will be kept unique for Mash, and if they do add another one it'll likely be Ajax first.
08818d No.15278818
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>Foreigner MHX NP is fucking SLASH EMPEROR
I literally can't stop creaming myself, holy shit.
No, it's obviously not called Slash Emperor, but it's clearly the concept art they based it off of, and I'll take what I can get.
8095dc No.15279005
Thread is on page 12 and autosaging so enjoy this luckshitter post
70b7a7 No.15279834
>>15278559
>>15277488
I'd like a Shielder Emiya, since we still haven't seen Rho Aias in use outside of cutscenes. But, never going to happen. It's weird how he's still the most popular Fate dude and they don't capitalize on it at all.
017993 No.15280375
>>15279834
I doubt EMIYA would ever qualify just because he projected Rho Ais, if anything the owner, Aias the Great might but he's a literal who when it comes to anything but blocking Hector's spear. Hell, EMIYA doesn't fucking qualify for the Saber Class when he's literally a sword. Just Archer, Caster, Assassin, and Berserker.
Now Leonidas, who already qualifies for Shielder, would be an outstanding addition.
69ac32 No.15280545
>>15280375
>Aias the Great might but he's a literal who when it comes to anything but blocking Hector's spear.
Ajax is far from a literal who. He's over-shadowed by Achilles, Hektor, and Odysseus, sure - but the Iliad is the story of Achilles and Hektor (ending with the funeral of the latter) and Oysseus even gets an entire poem of his own. Agamemnon, Menelaus, Ajax, and Paris are all still major figures. Most importantly, there's the fact Ajax didn't just block Hektor - he absolutely wrecked him in their 1v1.
017993 No.15280577
>>15280545
He's a who comparatively. Ask anybody they knew who Heracles was, Perseus too, Achilles as well. He's strong sure but he's overshadowed by all the main character's in any story he appears in, along with Aias the Lesser. Hell, ask someone if they knew who Theseus was even though he was the guy who founded Athens and went through a similar trial process to Heracles.
e1816e No.15281457
>>15279005
>no new on artoria
Whale detected
e1816e No.15281550
>>15280577
Ask someone if they know who Kiyohime is. Ask someone if they know any knights of the round table besides Arthur (obviously), Mordred, or Lancelot - the quintessential Knights of the Round Table. Hell, I'd argue that 4 out of 10 times someone would not know who Nero is, or at the very least, would think of Caesar first and foremost if asked to think of a famous Roman. I can also guarantee you more people would know who Ajax is than Medea. As for the Germanic heroes, I don't think I need to tell you that anyone other than the Valkyries (not by name like Brynhildr, just a 'Valkyrie') and Siegfried are comparably 'literally who' to the normal human being.
I don't know any Irish people personally, but I'm almost certain the figures of the Fenian and Ulster cycles respectively are literally whos, and the Japanese tend to use the namesake often in video games and media, not at all representative of how well-known they are in Ireland or Scotland or even England.
The characters of the Epic of Gilgamesh are a similar story where the Japanese just seem to use the names often, such as Tiamat who most people associate with a particular summon in several JRPGs. Is Gilgamesh a recognizable name? I'm sure it is, but Ishtar and Eresh are another story entirely, and I feel like Enkidu is quite an obscure name as well.
2506bc No.15283237
>>15275937
TWO
FUCKING
YEARS
And of course it's once again the Second Summer Feature that gets my attention. 3/3 now.
09c7de No.15283292
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>>15283237
There's also Saber Medb who looks great but BB went from Nope all the way to I'd fuck her like a wild beast in heat due to her Summer version.
596396 No.15283449
>>15280375
>Hell, EMIYA doesn't fucking qualify for the Saber Class when he's literally a sword. Just Archer, Caster, Assassin, and Berserker.
EMIYA (Shirou, not Kerry) cannot be summoned in either Saber or Caster class in a grail war because he violates the base rules and the summoning system won't allow it.
The Counter Force will summon in in either at the drop of a hat, and quite frankly you don't want to think of him in either, because UBW gets ranked up to the point his projections are superior than the originals.
>>15281550
Worse, ask anyone who Siduri is.
Then realize that Siduri/Shibili/Ashtera (Sumerian, Canaanite, and Akkadian variants of the same entity) are the origin of the Grim Reaper legend and….
Name Recognition isn't really important in Fate to get the servant treatment, so long as the authors know a little about them - and from the treatment of Hoover, not even that much. (Hoover is considered one of the most important mystics of the modern era in Occultism - beating out Blavatsky). At this point, I think the only requirement is to be mentioned on Wikipedia.
In short, I'm agreeing with you.