624596 No.15227442
Where to play Yu-Gi-Oh!
For online: YGOPro Percy (for PC), ChinaPro (for Android) - https://pastebin.com/m2e9Dzt1
Archive with all games playable on PC (mostly through emulation): http://pastebin.com/0SHfUYyj
Tag Force 1-6 are the best if you want a story (2006-2011, 6 has only the first 25 XYZ monsters).
Tag Force Special (2015) is the best to play for learning the game with many of the new cards.
The World Championship series (2004-2011) and Duel Academy (2006) are pretty good too. Definitely check out Dungeon Dice Monsters.
All are fun for pet/archetype non-meta decking. Legacy of the Duelist is shit.
Other Games (Test Period)
Cardfight!! Vanguard - https://pastebin.com/PmmjV382
Talk only about original Japanese franchises. No video game/mobile exclusive franchises and no card game spin-offs.
Useful Links
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Wiki with information for players, new and old)
http://yugiohprices.com/ (Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market)
http://ygodr.blog.jp/ (OCG decklists)
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/ (TCG decklists)
https://ygorganization.com/ - http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/ (TCG/OCG news sites)
http://yugioh.party/ (Probability calculator)
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/ (Ban list)
How to get better
Read the cards.
Playtest and try suggestions.
477b9a No.15227507
>Mastar Boy
>not Secondonkey
560044 No.15227509
>>15227442
Are Kozmos still playable? Is there any way to make them keep up and not be a total brickfest?
9985c5 No.15227533
>>15227442
How do i become king of games?
just downloaded duel links, its a bit grindy but i think i like how this game plays.
560044 No.15227535
>>15227533
Want the easiest way to F2P top PvP, or the general best way to F2P the game?
If you want to play with IAP, just treat it as a way to speed up the grind for the F2P method, by the way.
9985c5 No.15227550
>>15227535
i just wanna rekt nerds in pvp, how do i get to that level?
>>15227540
Really, i was hoping that the grinding was a means to the end game where you mostly do pvp.
560044 No.15227553
>>15227550
Build Fur Hire.
3dde9d No.15227613
Really digging the new stuff Noble Knights have gotten, can actually make some more versatile builds because of it. Super excited that my irl copies of the new stuff are arriving today along with my Crusadia stuff.
560044 No.15227621
>Needlefiber still not out
>Crucial part of my main petdeck
c18f0c No.15229207
>>15227509
Not at all, hand traps effectively killed the deck. Best you could do is run a bunch yourself and three copies of Called By the Grave.
8f51e9 No.15229290
>Thunder Dragon is meta
What a time to be alive
>Thunder Dragon has a notable impact on the metagame right on its debut, especially by putting Sky Striker in check. This in turn opens up the opportunity for other decks to compete.
It alone cucked Rei and made things better, nice.
>>15227533
Play Fur Hire
90f9b6 No.15229317
>>15229290
>Harpie's feather duster is still banned in TCG.
370d01 No.15229336
I really like this Yu-Gi-Oh game. I emulated it recently and had fun, but its very short and pretty easy. Are there any other games similar to this for the GBA?
69b8c8 No.15229392
>>15229290
>thunder dragon meta
this makes me want to play the TCG again seems like a fun deck
8fbfc7 No.15229410
>>15229336
Oh you think that one is too easy? Have fun playing the sequel.
370d01 No.15229466
>>15229410
Does that one still have the RPG elements? I enjoyed traveling around the overworld, buying cards from the shop, etc.
And yeah, Sacred Cards was way too fucking easy. Everything except the last duel with Marik was a cake walk. You just get one decently powerful card on the field and there's nothing your opponent can do.
8fbfc7 No.15229490
>>15229466
It's pretty much the same game except they cranked up the difficulty 10 notches and gave the game a shitty OC plot. Some duelists in the game have 60,000 life points. Also your life points don't regain after duels so you have to go all the way back to the beginning of the game to save to restore your life points.
370d01 No.15229495
>>15229490>>15229490
>Also your life points don't regain after duels
I was fine with everything you were telling me until that. That's fucking retarded. Are there any other games like Sacred Cards on the GBA?
370d01 No.15229498
8fbfc7 No.15229560
>>15229495
>TSC is too easy!
>complains that the only alternative sounds too hard
370d01 No.15229615
>>15229560
Having to go back home after every duel isn't hard, it's tedious and makes no sense.
You've been helpful until now anon, don't be an idiot.
8fbfc7 No.15229657
>>15229615
I don't know what you want me to tell you. It's a hard game but if you build your deck properly you'll be fine. Just don't expect any hand holding.
987f06 No.15229685
>>15227442
I don't think you need to include the Cardfight franchise in the OP anymore, I haven't heard a peep out of that anon since the last thread.
>>15229290
>two grow-up bulb when its effect is once per duel
>not two jet synchron
>unlimited gold sarcophagus
>harpies feather duster
What dimension did I just step in.
>>15227533
Play anything other than Duel Links and don't play Fur Hire/Skyfang Brigade
You're better off copying the meta at this point
370d01 No.15229710
>>15229657
Like I said, I have no problem with the better duelist AI or some opponents having crazy high health, but needing to go back home to restore your LP is just bizarre and makes no sense in the context of a card game. If that's really the only alternative I will check it out though, thanks.
8f51e9 No.15229799
054672 No.15230478
>>15230294
>dab
I think you need to go back to cuckchan and stay there forever.
26e0bb No.15230513
>>15230294
Meme shit aside these cards really don't do anything at all except for the Nigger card which could lead to some sort of banish deck power play at best.
b6e311 No.15231156
>>15230294
Nigger becomes a staple for Metaphys
4f6f43 No.15231303
>>15230513
Well I do have one that could be an interesting effect in the future
79617d No.15231345
>>15227442
Where my six sam niggas at?
5059b5 No.15231364
>Furry agenda is OP as fuck in duel links
>MFW retards at konami actually allowed a modern deck in the game vs shit coming on a decade old.
b6e311 No.15231394
>>15231364
Fur Hire sucks in the TCG, although I can't see something like Lafarl or Wiz in there since they are super easy to summon negators.
4f6f43 No.15231403
>>15231364
Fur Hire is actually horrible in the regular game, which makes me think they made it especially for duel links. Whales and youtubers are gonna spend dosh on a meta deck and then they'll release another and better deck next month while nerfing cards that make doing that indefinitely hard.
After a while they'll release a new Yugioh game that is basically Duel Links but with a different flavor(read: utter micropay retardation), should this continue to succeed.
560044 No.15231538
I only play Duel Links because I can dick around with Spellbook hybrids.
5059b5 No.15231558
>>15231538
>I only play Duel Links because I can get yiffed on by furrys
FIFY
560044 No.15231564
>>15231558
I haven't played much DL since the furry format began.
325263 No.15231578
>>15231569
These little faggots
b21b8c No.15231612
>>15231578
I'm more triggered by them taking a shit on problem solving text than anything else.
560044 No.15231618
b21b8c No.15231626
>>15231618
THAT SUMS UP MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY
325263 No.15231648
>>15231618
That brought me some pleasure. It's so perfect
Fuck I hate those little faggots and their gay name. If they were called the Skyfang Brigade they would be equally gay to fight against but at least your video wouldn't apply so much to them
2b3532 No.15232008
>>15227613
>gumblar AND darklaw
2b3532 No.15232042
>>15230294
>trap card
>with a quick play indicator
>jews and the pedo
>level 6
>1943 attack 420 defense
>effect that does jack shit
>nigger
>field spell card as a monster
>discard from deck then remove from play everything but chimp monsters
>only effects you
>420 attack
You have the biggest fucking case of reddit, cuckchan, and tumblr I've ever seen. In my professional opinion you should go back to fucking twitter and stay there.
2b3532 No.15232102
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15231618
>link
>doesn't embed
your newfag is showing
9acfaa No.15232138
>>15232102
loseslastbitofhope.jpg
ec2340 No.15232185
>>15230294
"I just found /pol/"/10
e3db3f No.15233099
>>15231578
What's fucking wrong with Skyfang Brigade?
cedea2 No.15233119
>>15231345
ded archetype
i have them with all the new support sitting in a box gathering dust
gateway at 3 when
b6e311 No.15233131
>>15233099
Someone thought that shitty puns was better than the original name.
2b3532 No.15233490
>>15233099
furfags wanted a furfag archetype
5059b5 No.15233649
>>15233490
furfags wanted a furfag archetype fur hire
7c9647 No.15233699
>furfags archetype
>still no swole ass sailor/navy archetype (no homo)
/fit/ does not approve.
498f93 No.15233716
>>15233699
We need an aniki archetype
7c9647 No.15233730
>>15233716
Bodybuilder/powerlifter archetype.
I can see this.
987f06 No.15233743
>>15233099 (Checked)
Besides being kemono-bait, their combo is entirely focused around using your normal summon to begin the effect of special summoning every other Skyfang in your hand to activate the effect of the first skyfang you normal summoned which is easily broken by the mandatory hand traps, ash blossom and ghost ogre. From a breakdown point of view, Skyfangs are a decent swarming archetype that lacks draw and search power that isn't reliant on the monster effect that can be easily shut down by hand traps.
I still havent seen a source for this so it's rumor in my book, but I heard the guy who named the Skyfangs as Fur Hire got fucking fired.
498f93 No.15233766
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15233730
What would their playstyle be though?
b6e311 No.15233904
>>15233490
This makes no sense, literaly no one likes the new name
>>15233730
"This card can only be destroyed by battle and can not be removed from play while on the field"
There, make them battle focused and spice things up.
f731e3 No.15234054
>>15233743
>easily broken by the mandatory hand traps, ash blossom and ghost ogre.
What ISN'T broken by Fag Blossom and the rest of the ghost loli brigade?
2b3532 No.15234082
>>15233904
the furfags at konami do
f731e3 No.15234091
>>15233490
>>15233649
>>15234082
Given all this talk about Furfags causing this, was the (((localizer))) behind this an actual furfag?
7c9647 No.15234146
>>15233766
Use roid themed spells and dumb shit like "Roid-Dispenser-9000" (robot type monster with an effect that affects bodybuilder monsters) or a "Gym" field.
560044 No.15234216
>>15234091
The head YGO localizer has hinted before on Pojo that the only reason Stratos is still banned is that he likes those "free my nigga Stratos" memes.
f731e3 No.15234502
>>15234216
>Actively hindering an archetype because you like memes asking for that card back
Jesus Christ. I don't even play Heroes and I'm disgusted. I don't even know why Kikenami lets this happen, Stratos getting unbanned would mean money, no?
3dde9d No.15234505
>>15234216
>The head YGO localizer has hinted before on Pojo that the only reason Stratos is still banned is that he likes those "free my nigga Stratos" memes.
This is so dumb that i'm convinced it's real.
560044 No.15234511
>>15234505
>>15234502
He's also the reason it took so long for Bestiari to stop being limited - he played competitively back when Glads were the big deck, and he wanted to make sure they never were again.
3336b9 No.15234524
>>15234216
As someone who plays Heroes from time to time, this infuriates me. What a fucking cunt.
f24ea8 No.15234531
>>15234216
>the only reason Stratos is still banned is that he likes those "free my nigga Stratos" memes
Yeah that sounds about right, heroes don't even matter any more; a couple of formats it might have done something, but now he's just banned for memes.
>>15234511
Christ, how difficult is it to have some playtester or something for their ban-lists instead?
Beastari was banned for about a century more than needed.
3336b9 No.15234584
>>15234531
>Yeah that sounds about right, heroes don't even matter any more; a couple of formats it might have done something, but now he's just banned for memes.
The OCG has Stratos at 2 (though granted they have Shadow Mist at 1, but at least it's not banned) and the best Heroes can do there is be an engine for a Gouki deck variants, which is up there, but not a top tier deck by any means.
b6e311 No.15234882
>>15234511
As GB player I am beyond pissed
c2ae53 No.15234944
>>15234054
Ghost Lolis are a mistake. I mean, at least there's an out to Kaijus. Ghost Lolis just makes you paranoid.
c2ae53 No.15234963
>>15234502
Stratos isn't even that OP to be banned in perpetuity.
>>15234511
As a GB player…that's just mean. He lost to a GB deck and he's salty about it and that's why he limited Bestiari? Fuck that guy.
003ef8 No.15235720
I could use some help working out the minimum number of cards required for an opening field of any Vampire, the easiest is likely Sucker, Zombie World, Drochshuile on the field or in the graveyard and Vampire Domination set. So far I can't get it lower than 4 and very few of those options are searchable.
8fbfc7 No.15235842
>>15231558
>>15231564
It's been the same shit since the game came out
>banlist makes all the current decks useless
>conveniently a new broken archetype debuts in the new pack but the cards you need are super rare and up and require you to reset a thousand times
325263 No.15239936
>>15233743
>but I heard the guy who named the Skyfangs as Fur Hire got fucking fired.
You read that wrong anon, the guy who said that a few threads ago said he HOPES that the guy got fired. Not that he did. I saw you asking for a source in that thread too (assuming it was you) but I forgot to reply and tell you that you just read it wrong
987f06 No.15240069
>>15235842
With the mobile jew you always lose
>>15239936
>(assuming it was you)
yes
>I forgot to reply and tell you that you just read it wrong
FUCK
3dde9d No.15240136
Crusadia are so much fun, nothing beats smacking your opponent with 17k damage in a single attack.
e12489 No.15240578
Anyone know an archetype or deck that relies on sacrificing your own monsters for power boost or effects? Basically the yugioh equivalent of shadow paladins in cardfight.
987f06 No.15241106
>>15240578
Only archetype that comes to mind is Hieratic Dragons. I don't know how they perform, all I know is they're a bit difficult to play with.
4f6f43 No.15241157
>>15240578
It's not really an archetype, but a structure deck was released a few months back that introduced a shitload of cards that rely on tributing monsters for effects, and a field spell that allows you to tribute the opponent's monsters for these effects. As for power, the only ones that come to mind are the Maju boss cards, they sacrifice monsters to be beatsticks, but a separate one gains attack based on banished card counts.
In the structure deck Legendary Maju Garzett is included, and it's the best version for a straight tribute deck.
The Deck's boss is Darkest Diabolos, Lord of the Lair, a dragon that focuses on hand destruction and is hard to remove, etc. You can also tribute your own, and it's also a good deck for Virus cards, which tribute monsters to kill the opponent's hand of specific types of cards.
If you want archetype support, the Darklord archetype (Superbia, Ixtab) provides monsters and good draw power, since on it's own the deck is a bit slow, but extremely devastating, and the Virus cards can win the game for you. Arhima and Lilith are also extremely nessesary inclusions, since Lilith allows you to set traps from the deck. Add a couple of copies of Trade In alongside Diabolos, Superbia and Ixtab for more draws and look around for your own techs. Have fun m8.
987f06 No.15241158
>>15241106
>>15240578
Forgot to mention Monarchs and Qliphorts are another archetype with effects that activate when you use tribute summoning. If you want to tribute the OPPONENT monsters, you could play Kaiju or Lair of Darkness.
2b3532 No.15241177
>>15240578
Qli. It also happened to be one of the most fun decks to exist, right next to the second wave of Duel Terminal decks starting in Duelist Alliance. It's a shame they get completely out classed by link format decks, same with most of the rest of the decks from that era.
I just want best card ElShaddoll Construct to come back
b1426a No.15246840
Got a few questions. One, is Jolt Counter any good in a Battlin' Boxer deck and two, are Fire Fists any good to combo with Boxers? Because those two archetypes are like my boys…and really wanted to try combining them. Last question, wonder if you can combine Goukis with the new Dinowrestlers?
2b3532 No.15248106
>>15247412
>negate drones
>get raigeki'd
heh
3a787f No.15248711
>tfw links killed the game for everyone i know and most have gone back to fucking magic after a 15 year break.
39d989 No.15248830
>>15248106
In retrospect, I should have negated kagari instead
ba2fff No.15249895
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Little_D
>Italian
Which one of you fuckers did this?
197e3e No.15249981
868f67 No.15249990
>>15249895
>Piccolo D
Is that even..accurate?
7c9647 No.15249996
054672 No.15250045
>>15241177
>they get thier own Link
>it's still not enough
2b3532 No.15250064
>>15250045
I don't think even bringing scout back to 3 would do anything.
Also, their link is trash and it made me sad that one of the most interesting archetypes of the Duel Terminal world.
4f6f43 No.15250071
>>15233716
>>15233730
Technically Gouki already counts, but with a japanese wrestling theme.
>>15233766
>>15234146
It's also gay porn, so two monsters should be able to share the same attack while only one can attack and this is what the entire archetype shares aka beast with two backs effect
When two anikis are fucking, their effects become usable, which can be anything like stat drain or destroying monsters, or life point damage. There aren't traps in the archetype because they're all manly, but they have equip spells that reduce stats or prevent action for non Aniki monsters humiliating fetish gear but empower Aniki monsters with opposite effects. Spell A would add Aniki's defence to his attack and forces them to stay in Attack mode, while reducing all other monsters' defence by their attack and forcing them to stay in Defence mode. Spell B would prevent attack for non Aniki monsters, but give Aniki monsters two attacks each turn and not limited to monsters, so it can include direct attacks.
All Anikis do piercing damage as well, because sodomy.
Anikis are initially weak 1500 ish ATK but have high defence grappling isn't an offensive art, but rather a defensive one focused on endurance rather then strikes and do best when "Linked".
Anikis also can't have a porn movie with just one guy, so before the "movie" starts, they set up their "actors" with a script. This means that an Aniki can summon other Aniki by being activated from the hand, and the difference between Aniki is their summoning location. Hand, Deck, Grave, etc. And Aniki Leatherman can search for equip spells to use because he starts with gear on in the locker room.
2b3532 No.15250072
>>15250064
*world got shafted as hard. Same thing with shaddolls, it's just disappointing.
don't know how I forgot to type that
polite sage for being retarded
5059b5 No.15250089
>Jewdie and You say getting meme tins
>each contains 1 new support
>Jewdie's is a new spacian contact which will be worth fuck all since gate is already a useless support
>You say's is a new junk synchro that unless it's simple a "Synchro/tuner" for needlefiber to jerk off will be worth fuck all (and you know not actually played in junk)
>Make cards to play stardusts in links and give heroes a link to keep darklaw company
>Drop that route to just support both of their other archetypes that wont work regardless of what they have.
I don't even like anime decks but surely someone should be pissed they give blue-eyes some deck running rank 8 engine, Cyber dragons become kaiju limiter removal turbo but then the rest are given this half treatment that's worth fuck all.
868f67 No.15250098
>>15250089
I wished they gave Judai his manga deck. Terra Firma is a way better ace than Neos.
054672 No.15250101
>>15250064
It's ok. You can get multiple searches off a Disk/Pendulum, since it's not once per turn.
4f6f43 No.15250116
>>15250089
Blue Eyes got rank 8 engines because rank 8 is the standard for an anime rival boss monster and the best XYZs are rank 8 dragons for that reason.
They literally have no reason to NOT unleash a wave of updated and retrained fusions for Jaden's Elemental Hero and Neos archetypes. Like they did with Thunder Dragon and it's weird fusion conditions that work.
45e447 No.15250123
>>15227507
>Performapal Secondonkey
What exactly is the pun here?
868f67 No.15250138
5059b5 No.15250163
>>15250116
>Blue Eyes got rank 8 engines because rank 8 is the standard for an anime rival boss monster and the best XYZs are rank 8 dragons for that reason.
Isn't only one of the rivals the one from Zexal a rank 8 deck. Only other rival with rank 8's aren't even generic only 2 of his rank 8's are even used anyway.
>They literally have no reason to NOT unleash a wave of updated and retrained fusions for Jaden's Elemental Hero and Neos archetypes.
It's just Neos and you're right they have no reason not to, but why when 1 singular card isn't going to save shit for a deck that even before links had no plays and they already started fixing the anime dudes other deck to actually have modern plays why waste the effort, a singular bad card isn't going to sell a tin and the anime fags it appeals too wont even want the new card because it's not from the show.
e29e12 No.15250195
i want to stick my stiff wiener in dark magician girls tight cootchie
7c9647 No.15251523
>>15250071
>Necromancer Aniki (Vanholme).
289142 No.15251609
>>15250071
Very good concept, I must say.
What would their boss monster be though? I think there should be a stronger one who is a big beater :^) with lots of effect protection and represents the power of all of the other aniki - call him Boss of the Gym - Ultimate Aniki.
The weaker one would be a more utility-based one who is easier to bring out and whose effects revolve around the equip cards - call him Dungeon Master - Deep Dark Aniki. Depending on how many equips he has, he gets different effects, like for example making the opponent pay life points to activate effects like that Red-Eyes Xyz monster, think of it as having to pay to have sexual favors be performed (fisting is 300 bucks).
7c9647 No.15251727
>>15251609
The boss would obviously be Billy Herrington.
05552c No.15253588
So, there's this card, Mischief of the Time Goddess that lets you skip to the Battle phase of your next turn, essentially skipping your opponent's turn entirely, if you control nothing but Valkyrie monsters.
So, 3 of these things can make 6 turns go faster if you're running Final Countdown, right?
fcea38 No.15253598
>>15253588
I suppose, yes?
5059b5 No.15253636
>>15253588
If you play Valkyrie for more then 3 duels you'll find it's never work. All Valkyrie can do is let their push for game happen like letting their strongest monster attack over 2 big bois .
Running the cards needed to get it started wouldn't give you the room to run the cards needed for a final countdown deck.
4f6f43 No.15255080
>>15253588
The effect doesn't have counter effects or specifies that something that happens on a specific turn or a specific phase, just that 20 turns have passed, so yes.
05552c No.15255106
>>15255080
If that's the case…need some way to recycle Mischief so there's a potential way to skip 12 turns..
987f06 No.15255224
>>15250123
Check the wiki for the jap translation, shit like original names that usually sound a lot better than when they're translated.
Look no further than the Fur Hires if you need convincing that the english branch can fuck up horribly at renaming.
>>15253588
Tellar knights did it better
05552c No.15255308
>>15255224
It's still Secondonkey in Japan, my friend. I think they named referred to it being the second donkey Perfomapal, what with Friendonkey being the first. Plus the effect sets up Friendonkey's event.
560044 No.15257278
>3 Jogen
>3 Earth Armor
>3 Hanzo
>3 Notebook
>3 Alchemy
>2 Saizo
>Knightmares
>Tri-Gate
>Borrelsword
>Gumblar
What else do I run in Ninjas?
2b3532 No.15257286
>>15257278
2 kagari and 1 shizuku
:^)
cee849 No.15257326
>>15257278
Run 3 Upstart Golden Ninjas and 1 or 2 Getsuga depending on your build. Jogen isn't really that useful imo. I haven't played ninjas since linkshit came out, but there's gonna be a link ninja coming out so maybe I'll start playing them again then, anyway back when I did play them Getsuga was really strong, he could extend your plays really well.
560044 No.15257331
>>15257326
I'm running Jogen to help get the link out faster.
cee849 No.15257363
>>15257331
Do whatever you think will help you out the most, as I said I'm not an expert on how to play Ninjas right now, the only thing you should keep in mind is that Ninjas usually keep their monster count to a minimum, the problem in that is that they're bricky, however that's the price you'll have to play when playing Ninjas. 3 Upstart Goldens and 3 Hanzos are the baseline for every Ninja deck, whatever else you put in is your decision depending on build.
2b3532 No.15259002
I swear this deck can pull off the most insane boards if I knew what I was doing.
5059b5 No.15263256
>>15259002
Why do people like this exist
He RQ'd 20 times in a row vs everyone I watched btw
90f9b6 No.15263298
>>15263256
He just wants an easy game.
5059b5 No.15263369
>>15263298
He's trying to get his replays for his sick duel replay youtube channel. :^)
69b8c8 No.15263444
anyone got a decklist for the new ninja stuff? not looking for competitive but something I can play against my friends.
also unsure what to get in terms of competitive deck now a days
7fdb12 No.15263521
>>15263444
Wait for the list before you buy anything for competetive, japan got stomped at worlds and they never take that lightly.
69b8c8 No.15263585
>>15263521
yeah I saw that some black kid won with dragons? idk but the deck looked super stacked considering he could run any language of a card.
also im anticipating thunder dragons, deck looks fun
7fdb12 No.15263638
>>15263585
A guy from thailand won with Trickstars as best I know and the kid's division was a Gouki mirror for the finals.
618d42 No.15266391
>>15263444
Is there a new way to play Ninjas other than trying to get Horus level 6 out early?
9e744c No.15267104
>>15234216
Getting out Mist Valley Avian early.
You could probably rely on Shadow Sealing and Mirage Transformation, which lends itself better with the link monster as there aren't any level requirements
9e744c No.15267129
000000 No.15276639
>>15263638
Gouki is good now? Or just WC banlist shit?
a9c54c No.15276772
Do i have to destroy my old field spell with a mystical space typhoon or something first before i can play the a new one or does my new field spell just replace the old one and the old one goes to the graveyard?
d7e0ee No.15276795
>>15276772
The latter. You don't need your field spell slot to be empty in order to activate another spell card.
42aec6 No.15277448
>>15276639
Gouki would be the entire meta right now if not for Skystriker Trickstar, it's going to get Firewall banned and likely take either Isolde or Phoenix Blade with it.
e96843 No.15277631
>>15276772
>>15276795
also you can set your field spell
e3d80a No.15280014
So I haven't played at all since they went to atlantis in the anime, and haven't played regularly since long before that. I've already figured out most of the rules changes I think, but what tech cards can I put in my toon deck to make it better?
42aec6 No.15281203
>>15280014
Post your deck, toons are pretty bad as a whole unfortunately with only a few of the newer ones being useful.
c673a2 No.15291886
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
If there are any pokemon tcg players here, is there any way to make this deck viable for todays meta?
If not, what are some fun decks to play? Been trying to play something a bit more simple than yugioh for a bit.
fcea38 No.15292201
>>15291886
You know, it is a shame a that only the YGO playerbase has the autism to make a full simulator like Percy
43c307 No.15296303
>>15292201
Well that and the cards are goddamn expensive..
fcea38 No.15296314
>>15296303
Isn't that true only for Magic and YGO? Or at everything else is less expensive, at least?
7b8c36 No.15300126
New zombie support and it's largely underwhelming
Tatsunecro
Level 3 DARK Zombie Tuner Effect Monster
ATK 500
DEF 1700
If this Normal Summoned/Set card would be used as a material for a Synchro Summon, 1 monster in your hand can be used as 1 of the other Synchro Materials, but in that case banish all materials for that Synchro Summon instead of sending them to the GY.
(1) You cannot Special Summon monsters, except Zombie monsters.
Return of Zombie
Normal Trap Card
You can only use this card name’s (1) and (2) effects once per turn each.
(1) Banish 1 Zombie monster on the field, then Special Summon 1 Zombie monster in Defense Position from the GY of the controller of that banished monster to the field of its owner.
(2) If this card is in your GY: You can shuffle 1 of your banished Zombie monsters into the Deck, and if you do, Set this card to your field, but banish it if it leaves the field.
Red-Eyes Zombie Necro Dragon
Level 7 DARK Zombie Synchro Effect Monster
ATK 2400
DEF 2000
Materials: 1 Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
You can only use this card name’s (2) effect once per turn.
(1) Gains 100 ATK/DEF x the number of Zombie monsters on the field and in both GYs.
(2) When another Zombie monster is destroyed by battle: You can Special Summon 1 Zombie monster from either GY to your field.
Advendread Savior
DARK Zombie Link Effect Monster
1600 ATK / Link-2 (Bottom-left, Bottom-right)
2 Zombie monsters
-You can only use each of this card name's (2) and (3) effects once per turn.
(1) This card's name becomes "Revendread Slayer" while on the field.
(2) You can target 1 "Vendread" card in your GY; add it to your hand.
(3) During damage calculation, if this card battles an opponent's monster: You can send 1 Zombie monster from your Deck to the GY; the opponent's monster loses ATK equal to the Level of the monster sent to the GY x 200 until the end of this turn.
89e745 No.15300220
>>15296314
Remember when people merely getting hyped about new Harpie support caused Pet Dragon to fucking skyrocket in price overnight?
Mermaid Abyssmegalo and Moulinglacia being $80 apiece?
fcea38 No.15300839
>>15300126
>Tatsunecro
>Banishes the monsters
>Summon restriction
Trash
>Return of Zombie
>Banish on field cost
>revive in DEF
>revives from either graveyard
I don't like it feels like trash
>Red-Eyes Zombie Necro Dragon
>Stat gain effects in 2018
>Effect needs to destroy to trigger
This hurts
>Advendread Savior
>Adds card to hand
>Deck mill
This one is the best one by far
2b3532 No.15304252
>>15300839
>>Stat gain effects in 2018
>blocks your path
fcea38 No.15304715
>>15304252
Like the stat gay effect is relevant at all. She is played thanks to the FREE recovery effect. The stat gain is just there and while it helps killing faster it is still irrelevant
5059b5 No.15306177
>>15304715
>She is played thanks to the FREE recovery effect.
It's actually relevant in pure because it's your battler until you draw scapegoat to do knightmare removal into borrelsword
It using it's built stats to fight with the equip to help you draw faster into big boy for game is important since regular sky striker has little way to deal the big hits.
5a03bd No.15308024
Oh goodie, another Summoned Skull. Let's see how they fuck it up, shall we?
Beckoned Skull Archfiend
Level 6, Fiend/Synchro/Effect
Attack 2500
Def 1200
1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters
(This card is always treated as an "Archfiend" card.) This card's name becomes "Summoned Skull" while on the field. Your opponent cannot target “Summoned Skull” you control with card effects.If this Synchro Summoned card you control is sent to your GY by an opponent's card (by battle or card effect): You can Special Summon 1 "Summoned Skull" from your hand, Deck, or GY.
3294da No.15308043
>>15308024
Why's Coonami turning Summoned Skull into an archetype?
5a03bd No.15308050
>>15308043
Because Yugi used it? I mean, Red-Eyes got turned into an archetype because Joey (hell, they even turned Baby Dragon and Gearfried into a Red-Eyes cards to make the numbers)
fcea38 No.15308059
>>15308024
The targeting protection and floating are nice but It feel it falls short.
>>15308043
They did it to Thunder Dragon and that was fucking amazing, that deck is fun to play and pretty strong.
992eab No.15308060
>>15308024
>melodious-like summoned skull lock soon
992eab No.15308065
>>15308060
I just realized Advent Skull Archfiend isn't a blanket effect rip.
3294da No.15308083
>>15308050
Yeah, but Red-Eyes is Joey's boss monster.
>>15308059
>The targeting protection and floating are nice but It feel it falls short.
The floating doesn't seem that good right now because all of the new Summoned Skulls only have the same name effect when on the field, so when they get blown up the only thing you get is a dumb vanilla beater.
5059b5 No.15311894
So, uh, how do you even go about summoning summoned skulls?
Want the ritual? no pre prep because it's not got a proper ritual for itself, using impcantations means no other skulls for you unless you plan on running cosmo brain as well to get rid of them while also summoning skull. but that takes 2 turns if you'll even have that.
The fusion makes me think they want you to unironically run fusion recycling plant and summoners art to bring skull to the hand.
The synchro is like how? only thing in my mind is red resonator on something easy or unizombie but then then at that point there's 2 clearly better decks I can be running.
2b3532 No.15315236
>>15314576
more floodgates
29758c No.15315339
>>15311894
With Impcantations you can use the level 6 for the ritual summon then tribute the other one for a main deck Summoned Skull monster. It's not much but it's something.
5059b5 No.15315939
>>15315339
See I want at least a consistent way into 2 of the new ones before even considering these things worth it.
eec0b3 No.15317778
>>15308083
That could be nice if they gave it DOWN like support. You know, the cards almost feel like collector bait at this point
0d0751 No.15318179
>>15315939
The impcantations or the summoned skulls, because the impcantations are great but the skulls are almost certainly hopeless?
5059b5 No.15318621
>>15318179
As in 2 of the summoned skulls retrains.
5059b5 No.15336178
>>15229290
>Deck that plays by mu knowledge and interaction while not being able to hit hard being "checked" by a deck that summons 1 card, passes and no almost no deck can respond or hope to draw into an out because it's thunder king Rioh with 7 layers of protection to say fuck off to any retorts when their turn starts.
>this is a good thing
>people actually will defend this because the deck is based on a cool old tech choice / PS1 game meme
Reminder this is OCG where playing sky strikers actually means playing pure sky striker + running raye since hornet is at 1 and reincarnation is also at 1 meaning it's not mixed with trickstar. and not some miracle engine.
Thunder Dragon when brought to the TCG will just be another non interactive go first to auto win deck since TCG bans / limits all generics while letting archetypes run around at full power till they need an emergency ban.
21fb8b No.15349544
So, we have ChinaPro (YGOPro ES) that is actually updated, but somehow managed to fuck up an interface that was simple and clean and on mobile it's just shit
Percy and DevPro are fucking dead
Maybe YGOPro is alive, i'm currently downloading to check if they have the lastests sets
just why
8954b7 No.15349580
>>15349544
You can try a little harder when writing a post.
Here are the last updates for ProEs mobile and guides how to install (from August 18th):
* English: https://ouo dotto io/kFSY6v
* Update: https://wp dotto me/p7AL2u-fN
Videos:
1. How to install
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clU-__I0gGo
2. Create offline rooms
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvstAeFZ2Pk
3. Create online rooms
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNeXu6hWSeA
21fb8b No.15349602
>>15349544
You can try a little harded when reading a post
On the very first line I say that I know about ProEs
My gripe with what we have now is that the interface is pure dogshit, look at YGOPro
YGOPro ES is a lot better in that regard, but it crashed on me a couple of times and on mobile is just awful
At least is something, tough
8954b7 No.15349673
>>15349602
Couldn't even link it to me?
I didn't say anything about you not knowing of ProEs. Your post is just such a mess a person can't tell what the fuck you want. Weren't you complaining about the mobile not working? I gave you everything related to the mobile version and how to make it work.
And what the fuck are you even complaining about YGOPro? You mean Percy? The fuck is wrong with its design? ProEs and Percy are basically the same. And the PC version of Percy works just fine for sure. The picture you posted looks like cancer and it is from Dawn of a New Era anyway, which is the shittiest version of them all. You realize all of them are "YGOPro something" to begin with? Your posts barely make any sense.
5059b5 No.15351182
Junk speeder looks like he can be the shit after needlefiber dies but time will tell.
>>15349602
>Dawn of a new era
>earn diamonds
Imagine playing a version of pro with freemium and an interface that looks like a shit early 2000's fan forum.
c6fff0 No.15351838
>>15227442
The only joy I find in yugioh is punishing people that play it with exodia or needle worm deckout
8c8eb6 No.15355082
>>15351182
I wish he didn't locked you out of Linking or that he was a link, that way you could at least Accel Synchro into a Quazar and a Blazer
e1d669 No.15355197
>>15351838
Needle Worm? You absolute madman. Though nowadays, aren't you helping folks up with their Graveyard set up?
5059b5 No.15355461
>>15355082
feels like the real purpose of this card is to add Junk/steam and jet synchron into crystron for a easy way into the cryston Trishula on your turn
6621df No.15361702
>>15336178
>Implying
First, TD is bricky, at least for a meta deck. Second it dies to IP and DB. 3rd, Sky Striker is the best deck and the nips already figured how to kill TD. TD is good, yes but it is far from OP. They don't even run Negations while SS does.
5059b5 No.15361756
>>15361702
>First, TD is bricky
Only if you're going for a link with both of them connected for it.
If you can't make Mistake on legs every time at least with 4 times protection you've just made a shit deck. Or you're basing it's power off of YGOpro meta
6621df No.15362094
>>15361756
I am talking about my own experience with them but yeah, it is in Pro and a TGC legal~ish variant. That being said they in decline in the OCG, Altegeist and SS are much more cancerous and restrictive.
5059b5 No.15362108
>>15362094
>2 BLS
>2 of another BLS summon condition monster
>2 solar
>1 ash
>2 bulb
Boi
6621df No.15362115
>>15362108
What? I can remove the 2 BLS for 2 more Ash. Although, I agree Solar might be too much, I don't summon him that much but he works when I do.
2b3532 No.15362445
>>15362094
>33% other
that's a funny way to say gouki
6621df No.15362487
>>15362445
13 Sky Striker
11 Altergeist
4 Good Stuff Link
3 Junk Doppel
3 Thunder Dragon
2 Greener Infernoid
2 HERO Gouki
2 Magician:
1 Performapal Magician
1 Performapal Supreme King Magician
2 Trickstar
1 ABC
1 Blackwing
1 Cyber Dragon
1 Greener HERO Plant FTK
1 Lightsworn
1 SPYRAL
1 Wind-Up FTK
1 Yang Zing Dinosaur
1 Zefra
I suppose, I should have posted this alongside the
chart but here it is.
I am just going to post the source too
https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2018-07-metagame-report-6-7/
5059b5 No.15363369
>>15362487
>junk dopple
Actually curious on that deck profile and I wonder if speeder has him cumming on the floor
013645 No.15363959
Why did they neuter this card?
a2ce72 No.15364909
>>15227442
Honestly I'm so glad I don't play YuGAYhomo anymore. Community was by far the worst which was filled with niggers and spiks if not collectively highschoolers trying to act like they know shit while playing a card game made for literal children. Obligatory "I switched to MTG and it's better" because it is in every way, shape and form. Best part is that I don't get cucked by Konami turning $80 cards into value Wal-mart tin promos two weeks after release. It's truly amazing to see how autistic the playerbase is when Konami is trying to kill off their own game yet all these underage niggerspiks keep slurping up the anal drippings that is the defecated remains of what is yugioh. People here want to act like they know shit but all they're doing is memeing on oldschool cards while pretending to know the current game all for the sake of carrying on /v/'s legacy of being "LE EDGY CONTRADICTORY MAN". So take a good long moment to pay your respects to this dead game and recognize that MTG is superior in every way.
ee0cc7 No.15366460
>>15364909
>he supports wotc
Current magic isn't much less of a shit show than yugioh, the only difference is that yugioh knows this;
while magicfags are delusional and deny that their game is shit as well.
cb8fd6 No.15366480
Has there ever been a more un-user friendly TCG?
>XYZ SUMMON
>FUSION
>SPECIAL SUMMON
>SYNCHRO SUMMON
etc etc
b647c6 No.15366503
>>15366480
At least MtG rules are laid out like a logical legal document
cb8fd6 No.15366521
>>15366503
This is what I don't get, why is YuGayOh so needlessly complicated? It feels like two kids on a playground making up unnecessary rules as they play a shitty card game they designed themselves.
ee0cc7 No.15366537
>>15366521
>>15366503
>>15364909
Are you samefagging, its weird for the yugioh thread to get this much activity;
weirder still is I've never seen any of (you) try to shit up a thread before.
Are you shilling?
>>15366480
Your precious magic has an insane amount of mechanics as well, it turns out with age; comes mechanics.
b647c6 No.15366539
>>15366537
>Are you same fagging
We have IDs you mong
and I hate current year wotc, but mechanically I just like magic more
ee0cc7 No.15366570
>>15366539
>We have IDs so that means you can't samefag
This is really a silly excuse, its very easy to change your ID.
>but mechanically I just like magic more
And i prefer yugioh, though its not my most liked card game. that would go to WIXOSS
a7bdf0 No.15366788
>>15366539
Did you just summon a bunch of (you)s in one turn? That's against the rules isn't it.
226e33 No.15366908
>>15366570
>This is really a silly excuse
Not as silly as accusing someone of samefagging because the idea of two people holding the same opinion is unfathomable.
ee0cc7 No.15367011
>>15366908
>(1)
Same guy?
>Not as silly as accusing someone of samefagging because the idea of two people holding the same opinion is unfathomable.
Its pretty unfathomable that a slow ass thread suddenly got two to four anons at the same time all with an opinion that only just started to show up in the thread.
3c923d No.15369345
>>15366788
>>15366908
>>15367011
Screw the rules, I have samefagging.
f5a422 No.15369497
Any good early game decks for this?
8954b7 No.15374328
>>15369497
5D's is hardly "early" and this game actually seems to have been from near the end of the anime/generation. You can certainly do things like good Junk/Synchron decks (with Quasar, if available), Blackwing, Six Samurai, plants, X-Saber, Infernity, probably Lightsworn.
Doing a search here seems to confirm some of my decks - http://yugiohtopdecks.com/top_decks?start_date=01%2F09%2F2010&end_date=01%2F01%2F2011Though the game would be more related than the OCG which probably already had some cards, which the TCG didn't, so expanding the research might be a good idea. Also just in general to search for decklist form that period online is a descent way to find ideas.
013645 No.15374361
>>15374328
I think he was talking about the game, Anonymous, not the card game…
8954b7 No.15374384
>>15374361
Oh. Well, I guess. And now that I think about it that game maybe didn't have normal decks anyway? Not just about them being turbo decks or whatever, but it didn't play like the normal game at all, not even like the anime.
f5a422 No.15374957
>>15374384
Yeah, something easily assembled with only early-game card access. Already played Over the Nexus (which released the same year) and have a fairly good idea of what's a good end-game deck.
I was going to do the same general idea I used for early-mid Over the Nexus of synchro beatsticks fueled by special summons and some removal spells/traps as support. Synchro monsters are a lot rarer than I remember them being: I can go through dozens of packs without one.
It's definitely a simulator.
f7920e No.15379487
Other than Fire Formations, what staple cards are best suited for a Yosenju deck? I'm thinking Battle Fader and Mirror Force, at least. I've not played since before Synchro summons and someone told me I should jump in with a deck with at least two of the new summons, so I'm going with Pendulum Yosenjus and Xyzs with the trio of Utopia, Utopia Ray and Utopia the Lightning.
8fbfc7 No.15380289
Would unbanning this card really be such a bad idea? The game is so fast paced now that I really don't see how a card that does nothing but give you two cards really be that broken. I think forcing everyone to use Link Monsters if they want to have more than one extra deck monster on the field is far more cancerous than a +2 card
21ceac No.15380412
>>15380289
Not really. Hey, why not unban Pot of Avarice too? Not like everyone and their mothers playing cards that could stop Greed and Avarice or anything right?
013645 No.15380474
>>15380289
You evidently have a bit of reading to do on how the Link monsters work
http://yugipedia.com/wiki/Knightmare
Giving these fuckers a +1, along with everyone else, would be disgusting
bc6ecd No.15385285
man, the new tins really dropped prices on diagram and all the link shit
if i had the time and interest to the play the game this would be the perfect time to make the shitty six samurai deck i've always wanted
f5a422 No.15388257
>>15374957
For some reason they made Dark Beginning 2, which has half the staple cards like Book of Moon and Bottomless Trap Hole, require you beat 1/3rd the gmae before you can unlock it. Meanwhile a Blackwings deck can be assembled pretty early.
9060da No.15388343
>>15380412
>Not really. Hey, why not unban Pot of Avarice too? Not like everyone and their mothers playing cards that could stop Greed and Avarice or anything right?
FUCKING DO IT!
f5a422 No.15388376
Why are all the cute girl based archetypes shit and under supported?
>Charmed/Familiar possessed
>Fortune Lady
>Aroma(ge)
>ghost girl
>fairy tail
054672 No.15388455
>>15388376
Charmers at least have this….
8fbfc7 No.15389713
>>15388376
The charmers are annoying as fuck in the games when you're playing a cheating AI. It's one of those decks that can only work if you know every card your opponent has and can plan around it
f5a422 No.15389869
>>15389713
What isn't annoying as fuck when the AI cheats?
Why do devs think cheating AI is a good idea? Fuck the first tag force game or two was so blatant if you hit a card with Book of the Moon it would become a different card when you attacked it.
6621df No.15389964
>>15388376
Nigga Ogre was the best hand trap until Ash came and it is still a good filler card.
As for Fortune Lady, they are an anime archetype
7652c3 No.15390628
>buy yusei tin
>get topologic and a bunch of shit i don't need
>trade it all for extra deck stuff i've been needing for years
so how was your saturday?
8954b7 No.15390656
>>15390628
>paying for cards
>going out
I masturbated and watched anime so far.
7652c3 No.15390667
>>15390656
i haven't actually had a chance to play irl for months and just have a bunch of decks gathering dust
wanted to spend dosh on something
21fb8b No.15390853
What's an active community dedicated to ygo that isn't reddit?
8954b7 No.15390890
>>15390853
This, halfchan and your locals. There are also the discords of the online games. But you can make a good argument none of the above are much different from reddit..
21fb8b No.15390928
>>15390890
Uff, I wanted to get back into ygo, been out since bujins
I know the new rules, but I have to learn all the new archetypes that came out
7652c3 No.15390955
>>15390928
just get goukis, it's the simplest pro-link thing right now
or wait for support for whatever you used to play
21fb8b No.15390984
>>15390955
I actually played shitty non meta decks, so I'm not getting shit
I just wanted to know what konami put out, since playing non meta archetypes is usually the most fun thing to do
eefe66 No.15390991
>>15390955
Not that anon..but got a question. Can you combo Goukis with Dinowrestlers?
7652c3 No.15391025
>>15390991
probably not very effectively
i'm not seeing any direct synergy
six samurais and x-sabers played nearly identically ages ago and grouping them together didn't really produce anything of value
>>15390984
i hear ninjas got new support, last i remember they weren't meta
81ee71 No.15391051
>>15380289
Modern combos with an added bonus of pot of greed is a one way ticket to reliable turn 1 Exodiaville and I really really don't want the Forbidden One to get actually forbidden.
>>15390984
Play and develop Tindangle to make people cry. It's been written off pretty thoroughly because >animedeck and >flips but it does good work. Some absolute fucking madman decided to give the deck a self-cycling continuous spell card that protects your tindangles from destruction and lets you go -1 to bring it back if you want, for example.
7652c3 No.15391075
>>15390984
six samurais might make a slight comeback due to all the reprints right now
diagram is cheap so the highest paywall is gone, skull dread is pretty affordable too
similarly you could make just about any pendulum deck, electrumite only costs about a quarter of what he used to
if i had the enough time to invest in the game again i'd go and get pendulum related stuff for my d/d/ds
21fb8b No.15391215
>>15391075
>>15391051
Thanks, I will look into them
I'm watching some gouki combos and it's amazing, turn 1 extra link with board protection
shit's fast yo
f5a422 No.15391321
>>15391075
Six Samurai was fun in Over the Nexus, even if it was only obtainable post game (like most fun decks in that game). What changed for them since then besides link summoning cancer?
>>15389964
Bad example. The archetype as a whole is meh even if that one card is good.
eefe66 No.15391336
>>15391321
I should go and try Over the Nexus then. Tag Force doesn't cut it for me. Tag partner usually do some stupid shit….like wasting a turn re-summoning my Neos Alius.
f5a422 No.15391349
>>15391336
Tag partner AI isn't great, but there's only a handful of mandatory tag duels in the game and the AI isn't that retarded. A lot of the fun stuff is post-game only (though the post-game is fairly extensive and there's even a NG+ option), though there are decent enough early game options.
7652c3 No.15391412
>>15391321
>What changed for them since then besides link summoning cancer?
well they did get a sub-archetype of support with around 3 decent monsters in it, + gateway is back at 1 and shi en is at 3
hatsume is your monster reborn
fuhma is your level 1 tuner
kizaru is free searching
then there's also the noble knight link monster which gives you a free warrior for next turn and lets you summon fuhma via equip spells (ideally bamboo swords, but anything else works if you want budget, i'm using moon mirror shield)
and since fuhma summons when he's destroyed from anywhere, you could also run a true draco toolbox to go on an even bigger +
if you don't brick you can easily shit out a ton of stuff
here's my budget samurais
7652c3 No.15391548
>>15391412
example replay from today
bf5a01 No.15391770
>>15379487
Yosenjus aren't a pendulum deck, not if you want them to be good at all. You run 3 Kama 1, 3 Kama 3, 2-3 Kama 2 and 1-2 Tsujik. After that you load the deck up with 3 Tenki, Solemn Judgement/Strike/Warning, Infinite Impermanence/Lost Wind, Evenly Matched and your prefered version of Mirror Force if you still have space, Ash Blossom, Ghost Ogre and if you want throw in a 4-5 monster Kaiju engine to deal with any other threats and a single copy of Interupted Kaiju Slumber.
f5a422 No.15393670
>>15391412
>177x254
エ? 何か? それはあり物の画か?
7652c3 No.15393940
>>15393670
i took them directly from my ygopro folder, seemed like the easier option at the time
afd006 No.15394171
>>15391548
>>15391412
yea ive seen the deck top alot its great,
8954b7 No.15401019
>>15393670
>何か?
More like 何これ?But please tell me if I am being retarded. Also using the kanji or katakana for ant might have been preferable. Not sure if there was any point to 物 too. Other than that It was funny to see.
2b3532 No.15405667
>>15391548
>brandished blue eyes invoked
all that's missing is some trickstar mill and you'd have every deck being played on ygo percy
2b3532 No.15405696
>>15391548
just noticed
>summons merkaba
>one card in hand
>it's a spell card
>uses it to summon something that he can't make game with
>next turn
>loses to a spell card
Get a load of the brain on this lad.
sage for double post
f5a422 No.15405697
>>15401019
物 is used there the same way it is in 女物.
90bbf2 No.15412878
I wanted to build a FTK Bonetower Mill deck
Tried to slap 3 copies on a Vampire deck, and KINDA works, if I manage to get 2 towers out
But I need too many resources to bring them on the field, and often I cant do my combos because I've already wasted effects to bring the tower out.
It doesnt help that Vampires only interact with themselves, no generic zombie support from them
Any ideas?
cedea2 No.15412951
>>15412878
there's new zombie world support coming at some point in the future, that stuff would work way better with tower
90bbf2 No.15412984
>>15412951
Nice, it's all in the upcoming structure deck or we will be getting something in the next boosters?
a34993 No.15413021
>>15412984
Structure deck. Same deck that we're getting a retrain Red-Eyes Zombie Dragon, I think.
623333 No.15415613
>>15412878
If you want to mill with Bone Tower then use Mayakashis, it's entirely possible to FTK with it, still a bad deck though.
78b05a No.15433905
>>15424119
Berserk Gorilla….I remember you when you…no wait, you always suck, even in Tag Force. Seriously, I liked Tag Force 1's starter deck when it's based on Water type stuff. Just grind for Legendary Ocean and let the magic happened. Beasts don't get that love that much love.
108f1b No.15433911
>>15424119
Serena Williams?
17ba58 No.15437126
That link to YGO percy is down. Could someone hook me up with a new one?
8954b7 No.15437272
>>15437126
Well the discord server is right there and you don't need an account to use discord, but oh well, here you go - https://mega.nz/#!4vZ2nKAJ!IlArObfQ5dDWwDrJW1RovgAoOQbUmk6S4cSWGSO1uYk
eb1f39 No.15439735
>>15433905
Beast-Warriors aren't exactly Beasts but good examples are Lunalights and of course Zoodiac, Glad Beasts, hily shit there's a lot of them now that I think about it
http://yugipedia.com/wiki/Lunalight
Seems like Beast-Warriors have it way better than Beasts ever have, only Ritual Beasts come to mind
427fae No.15439876
>>15439735
Beast Warriors? Well there's always the trusty Fire Fists and Fire Formations. If only Rekindling wasn't Limited….
054672 No.15448640
New banlist out. It's shit.
At least Stratos is back.
f55650 No.15448670
>>15448640
Stratos is free?
f55650 No.15448684
>>15448640
Oh hey…Morphing Jar is Limited?
f55650 No.15449086
OK, so…the ban list.
New Forbidden
>Samsara Lotus
>Knightmare Goblin
>M-X Saber Invoker (wait…what?)
New Limited
>A Assault Core (Well, RIP ABCs)
>Elemental Hero Stratos (FOR A THOUSAND YEARS I HAD SLUMBERED)
>Morphing Jar (See Stratos)
>Heavymetalfoes Electrumite
>Psy-Framelord Omega (Is it about time? or just unfair?)
>Evilswarm Exciton Knight
>A Hero Lives (That's a great fuck you to Heroes there)
>Card Destruction (Would anyone want to play this?)
>Skystriker Hornet Drones
>SUPER Polymerization (Hot damn!)
New Semi-Limited
>Kozmo Dark Destroyer (Ah…fuck)
>Called by the Grave (Was any of the Ghost Girls got limited? Because the best out to Ghost Girls are now hit)
>Limiter Removal (For all of you Cyber Dragon players out there)
>Scapegoat
>Terraforming (Now this is painful)
Cards that are off the list
>Apoqliphort Towers
>Destiny Hero - Disk Commander (Jumped from Forbidden to off the list…that's a record)
>Burial from a Different Dimension
>Ring of Destruction
bc6ecd No.15449199
>>15449086
>M-X Saber Invoker
but why though
were goukis that big of a problem? it's hardly their biggest enabler
hitting abcs feels almost a year too late so i have no idea what the deal with that is
i'm fine with everything else though
eb1f39 No.15449456
>>15449199
>abcs
Apparently the bigger concern was that A specifically looped Firewall or something, but I dunno, I'm glad 3 Dragon Cannons won't be spammed on the field all over again though. They seem to be trying to hit everything but Firewall, which explains the Goblin hit…
>M-X Saber Invoker
Nigger what
This card has been good as a staple since Zoodiacs, it makes sense that they'd hit it to stop Goukis from abusing it too, also they're kind of a big deal as far as the TCG's meta is rolling out, doubt they'll slow down much as we move into November
>>15449086
I'm personally really happy about Card Destruction, Super Poly, and Stratos of course, but I'm more interested in Disk Commander–albeit he was errata'd, which explains the jump from 0 to 3.
>You can only use this card name’s effect once per Duel. Cannot be Special Summoned from the GY during the turn it was sent there.
>(1) If this card is Special Summoned from the GY: You can draw 2 cards.
c72cc9 No.15449526
>>15449086
>stratos revived in return for effectively neutering shadow mist
>>15449456
>Disk Commander errata
Oh boy, looks like skittles engine is a tier 0 strategy now!
aebda2 No.15449666
>>15449086
>Limited
>Stratos
7c328d No.15451890
OCG banlist
Forbidden
>Amazoness Archer
>Summon Sorceress
>Cannon Soldier MK-2
Limited
>Performage Damage Juggler
>Knightmare Goblin
Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms
>A Hero Lives
>Gold Sarcophagus
Semi-Limited
>Altergeist Multifaker
>Nekroz of Brionac
>Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss
>Sky Striker Mecha – Widow Anchor
>Sky Striker Mobilize – Engage!
>Super Polymerization
>That Grass Looks Greener
>True King’s Return
>Ring of Destruction
Unlimited
>Aleister the Invoker
>SPYRAL GEAR – Drone
>Destiny HERO – Disk Commander
>Evigishki Gustkraken
>El Shaddoll Construct
>El Shaddoll Winda
The fuck is going on in nipland
89e745 No.15452242
>>15451890
>Amazoness Archer
What in the flying fuck happened over there.
b7c205 No.15452275
>>15452242
Since Cannon Soldier MK2 is there too, I'm guessing some extremely degenerate FTK deck.
054672 No.15452456
>>15452242
Same reason A - Assault Core is now Limited here, there's a loop with Firewall and the Cannon Soldiers or Acher to do infinite damage.
67d961 No.15452500
>>15451890
>A Hero Lives is limited in OCG
Didn't know Heroes were that much of a threat that they had to limit it to 1 in the OCG and the TCG.
f5a422 No.15452593
>>15452456
What's the last step of this loop? From the looks of it you need to bypass the limitation on summoning per turn. All the methods I can think of for that are still limited and or tribal.
2b3532 No.15452605
>>15451890
>Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms
YES
Dragon rulers best rulers. TCG unban when?
054672 No.15452617
>>15452593
>you need to bypass the limitation on summoning per turn
Firewall lets you summon from hand with no limit, just his trigger.
f5a422 No.15452719
>>15452617
We must be thinking of different cards.
f5a422 No.15452721
How does Prohibition work in the video games?
b7c205 No.15452743
>>15452721
Depends on the game, most games do it the shitty way where you have to scroll through the list of every card included in the game and this can take a while.
f5a422 No.15452753
>>15452743
And the ones that aren't those "most"?
b7c205 No.15452761
>>15452753
You can type the card name in to make the search quicker, only simulators like percy do it to my knowledge though.
67d961 No.15453320
I got a question…if the new banlist is made to like stop Firewall Dragon, why not just limit Firewall Dragon instead of crippling one archetype (because you know folks would play the ABC variant of XYZ and not VW variant)..also, why hit Gouki? Last time I heard, people complaining how Gouki sucks..
054672 No.15453388
>>15453320
Because it's an anime card and Konami is too stupid to just errata it with a hard once per turn for the Special Summon effect
0c64e3 No.15453670
What's with the lack of waifu cards lately?
5af6ea No.15454109
i haven't touched yugioh in forever, but i started playing duel links on a whim and now i lust for actual yugioh
how fucked am i if i want to try to get back into this shit now
b647c6 No.15454114
>>15454109
Just play Magic, it has better rules depth, and cards don't die in value overnight
5af6ea No.15454138
>>15454114
magic is uh gay
67d961 No.15454173
>>15454114
No thanks…I rather not have poz in my game.
37e446 No.15454194
>mfw haven't played a YGO game since Eternal Duelist Soul
>getting into this thread
>Ban lists
>Link monsters
>Fucking convoluted effects and conditional cards everywhere
I miss when this game was relatively simple
afd006 No.15454196
>>15453670
new harpie cards and a bunch of new cards just got leaked
67d961 No.15454213
>>15454194
You and me both. I remember back when 2000+ attack level 4 monsters comes with drawbacks. Or the time when a card doesn't need to have an essay on effects.
dc25e7 No.15454236
>>15454196
harpies look disgusting though
67d961 No.15454554
How exactly OP is this card? Especially nowadays when you know what everyone and their mother is playing.
fa6ec2 No.15455002
So, there's a new Pot card in the offing. And from what I got from the wiki, you have to banish 3 or 6 cards from the Extra Deck face down and randomly so you can draw one card for every 3 cards you banish and you can't draw cards using card effects for the rest of the turn.
So, there's card probably worse than Pot of Desires?
255ab3 No.15455050
>>15453320
>why hit Gouki? Last time I heard, people complaining how Gouki sucks.
You stop playing for a half year or so? Since the release of actually good links Gouki has been the best deck, or at the least the top combo deck since earlier in the format Brandish Trickstar was topping more. Gouki was never bad, just they had no endgame and once making a completely unstoppable extra link became an endgame they went from tier 3 to tier 1 overnight. That's also why last banlist (the one with Master Peace and pend magician hits) was horribly mistimed in my opinion, there was several big product releases that would have shaken up the meta heavily without a banlist.
>>15454554
>Pay 2000lp, gets ashed because your opponent truly doesn't care
Or
>Pay 2000lp, guess stratos or something
>They're playing pure brandish or rogue so it whiffs
Or
>Pay 2000lp, guess Rei because you know what they're playing
>They put it on your hand and it sits there uselessly since you have better normal summons
At best it's pay 2000lp for a free link material but there's a thousand better options to get free link material that don't require you to be playing in a solved format that is all mirror matches with standardized lists.
>>15454196
The new T.G. cards aren't great but that they even remember that archetype makes me happy. The new Shiranui cards are pretty solid, though. The Cyberse synchro monsters both seem pretty strong too, especially if I'm intepreting the level 7 correctly and it can out a full board without targeting or destruction.
>>15455002
Yeah the new pot card sucks for the most part. It only really synergizes with decks that don't care about extra deck and a lot of those have other draw spells they'd rather play (or some other incentive to not play an extra deck like Domain of the True Monarchs). There's a lot of not great pot cards though, between the release of Duality and Desires (pretty much the two best modern Pot cards) the only one that could see some real consideration is Acquisitiveness since banishing is starting to become more prevalent in a turn, and even then it's pretty niche.
fa6ec2 No.15455070
>>15455050
To be honest, I rather play Duality. Desires way too risky and since folks run Ash Blossoms, that cost ain't worth it (plus, kinda miffed they hit one of the best counters to Ash Blossom). Or hell, if I am really that hard up for draws, Denko Sekka or Jar of Greed is a thing.
7c328d No.15455071
>>15452500
I believe it can be a one card U board
I think its why tcg got stratos, they banned lives first then gave us one stratos
7c328d No.15455081
>>15452605
I feel this is konami dipping their toe in the water and I think if this doesn't result in degenerate shit they may bring back one of each dragon ruler.
7d46b6 No.15457523
Oh hey…Savage Strike's gives out Shiranui support..
89e745 No.15460485
>>15452921
Fuck, this looks cool. If only it didn't promote retarded paywall cancer.
>>15453388
Odd-Eyes used to be limited at the very beginning of the era. I didn't even play any tournament format and I remember that vividly.
eb1f39 No.15465825
http://yugipedia.com/wiki/Pot_of_Indulgence
So I can see people being excited for this card, mostly because non-extra deck based decks can go ahead and run a copy, but I'm also thinking it can help meme decks like Gren Maju da Eiza. However, would this have been any better if it allowed you to draw 3 by banishing 9?
The card from SS that I'm more excited for, though, is this shit
http://yugipedia.com/wiki/Witch's_Strike
A pity it isn't a counter trap card, but I think that was the intention, at least as far as making it less useful. Too bad it'll undoubtedly be a secret rare
2b3532 No.15465977
So, anyone figure out a good empty jar strategy in [CURRENT YEAR] yet?
f55650 No.15466848
>>15465825
This should've been a counter trap. Because this would've been a good counter to the usual Solemn/Ghost Girls that most folks are running now.
c72cc9 No.15466929
>>15465825
>something to prevent being bullied by ghost lolis at every turn
I don't even care that they're speed 2, I'm running 3 of them.
f55650 No.15467000
>>15466929
We need it now since Called From the Grave got hit.
eb1f39 No.15467109
>>15466848
It's still a good counter to the ghost girls, as long as it's already been set of course. It's slow, though, so I'm hoping it won't see excessive competitive play and it'll be cheaper to get. That's my hope anyways
>>15466929
See, I agree completely, though I still think it would be wise to keep Red Reboots and Wiretaps around
>>15467000
I still don't understand the rationale behind this, Called from the Grave did nothing wrong
pic unrelated
255ab3 No.15468209
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15465825
>>15466848
>>15466929
>>15467109
Friendly reminder that the only hand traps that stop card activations are Ghost Belle and the Psy-Framegears.
>>15465825
>However, would this have been any better if it allowed you to draw 3 by banishing 9?
I don't think Konami has ever made a simple +2 spell before, and there's a very good reason for that. It also would significantly increase variance in the game which would make it less fun overall.
>>15465977
Embed related might be a decent place to start.
eb1f39 No.15468595
>>15468209
>Friendly reminder that the only hand traps that stop card activations are Ghost Belle and the Psy-Framegears
>What is Ash Blossom
???
Ghost Ogre and Ghost Reaper are exempted, sure, but I'm more afraid of an Ash than much else in-game. You can still use a copy of Called for those two, anyways
Also the other pic relateds are other examples of shit you can stop. Not the most important but I'm trying to think of other ways to use the card
3ef4b0 No.15468674
>>15468595
Wow..Left and Right seems oddly specific. Not a good protection for Spellcasters ain't it?
eb1f39 No.15468705
>>15468674
They are, yeah, but they're interesting techs for Altergeists, since you effectively make your opponent have to bait the thing out, especially in the case of Right Hand in negating a spell. Altergeist already run Secret Village, though, so I mean, you tell me. The hands were made to run with Performapals / Magicians in mind from what I remember though
255ab3 No.15468743
>>15468595
Card is activated, then the effect is negated. Big difference from negate the activation itself.
You are right that Tri-Gate Wizard would get hit by Witch's Strike, notice how it specifically says negate the activation. The other two negate effects, not the activation of the card itself. Witch's Strike uses very specific wording because it's designed to be used after you get Solemn'd and all of those cards across the board negate the activation.
Aside from Witch's Strike the only other time this is ever important is with hard once per turn cards, you can't use another Pot of Desires if your first gets ashed but you can if it gets tri-gated.
eb1f39 No.15468774
>>15468743
ohhhhhh you're talking about the negation of the card versus the negation of the effect, right? Like the Seal of Orichalcos ruling?
I assumed it would be correct to be used on Ash since the text is worded like this:
>If your opponent negates a Normal or Special Summon, or negates the activation of a card or effect: Destroy all cards your opponent controls and in their hand.
Ahhhhh I see, it's the activation itself, not negating the card… you learn something new everyday I guess
3ef4b0 No.15468972
>>15465825
Ah shit…this doesn't work on Ash Blossom? Fuck, fuck….my hopes were raised.
5059b5 No.15469629
>MFW people in this thread right now don't get that negating an effect that special summons isn't negating a special summon it's negating an effect.
This is literally a follow up to cards with effects like solemn or Cosmic Blazer which explicitly say in the text "negates the summon".
eb1f39 No.15470590
I'm just going to say not everyone in this thread is super competitive or a decade-long veteran of the game, it makes sense that this concept is new to some of us
On that note, you can activate Witch's Strike *after* a chain that ended with Solemn Strike/Warning/Judgment resolves, not chaining it to that card, which is what some of us were thinking limited the card's usefulness. Granted, again, it's not a perfect card or an out to everything, but I'll take it. It looks fun.
f55650 No.15494943
So…what about them Shiranui support?
7de1cd No.15502255
Heads up, boys…Neos support's coming.
9b5163 No.15502509
>>15454194
Why are people still playing this shitty game? Probably because they know nothing else. Konami could treat them like literal cattle and they would still try to act superior.
7de1cd No.15502726
>>15502509
Well, what's the alternative? Pozzed as hell MTG? Pokemon TCG?
bd11e6 No.15502742
>>15502726
Magic is pozzed and the games are made with only the newest sets of that year while not really offering anything fun. The only simulator I know of also simulates buying cards and packs with real money.
The Pokemon TCG is fun but powercreeped to hell and the simulators are shit/non-existent, your only game option being TCG1 and 2 on Gameboy(they're very fun though.)
Basically, you're fucked no matter which card game you choose to play so might as well pick one you like.
baa093 No.15502777
>>15502509
I play it because its not like its costing me any money and its funny to play a broken ass game.
I wouldn't give money for it though.
>>15502726
Play a card game that never came to the west like me haha.
89e745 No.15505146
>>15494848
Yuto is a lucky man.
89e745 No.15505167
>>15502509
I'm not going to be a good goi until we get fucking "Unlinked" for an alternate format.
They had me with those damn dragon designs, now they finally don't.
9b5163 No.15505688
>>15502726
>Well, what's the alternative? Pozzed as hell MTG? Pokemon TCG?
1) There are other TCGs.
2) I will never know if Konami treats its customers any better because "MtG is pozzed" literally the only defense for Yu-Gi-Oh!.
3) I honestly can only conclude that people only play Yu-Gi-Oh! because of the anime.
Seriously, do you think Yu-Gi-Oh! is still alive because it is one of the best TCGs? MtG is the first TCG. Pokémon is a strong IP. It feels like most Yu-Gi-Oh! players don't play any other TCG. Yes, it is hard to find other TCGs but maybe stop playing this shitty card game so that a better one can come forth? Last time that I posted in this general, an anon can only give me things that exist in literally every TCG as reason why Yu-Gi-Oh! is good (but not before saying MtG is pozzed).
The Final Fantasy card game looks interesting. Duel Masters could also be fun. Or you could try old TCGs like Vampire: The Eternal Struggle? Or LCGs?
054672 No.15505827
>>15494848
>>15505146
I'll give Arc V props for actually making a canon couple.
2b3532 No.15505848
>>15505167
Not even best dragon Borreload?
9bbb88 No.15505850
>>15505688
>Yes, it is hard to find other TCGs but maybe stop playing this shitty card game so that a better one can come forth
TCGs are a dying medium, getting phased out by digital card games like Shadowverse, Hearthstone and Artifact. The likelihood of a new, let alone good TCG coming into existence is null. Second, the entirety of the game has a dedicated simulator with 0 currency bullshit which no other TCG come digital has.
Third, no other TCG with content still being made for it plays the same way Yugioh does, because it is the only TCG that has no resource restriction like Lands or Energy like Pokemon or MtG has.
9b5163 No.15505953
>>15505850
>Third, no other TCG with content still being made for it plays the same way Yugioh does, because it is the only TCG that has no resource restriction like Lands or Energy like Pokemon or MtG has.
There is a very good reason why that is the case.
>The likelihood of a new, let alone good TCG coming into existence is null.
There are good TCGs and Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't one of them.
c72cc9 No.15505966
>>15502509
I like to make combos.
f55650 No.15505973
>>15505688
Alright, slick….tell me. Does other TCGs have simulators I can run before I go out and buy the sets? Or the "other" TCGs you spoke off are the ones that died out when the TCG boom died out too?
2b3532 No.15505981
>>15505953
>There are good TCGs and Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't one of them.
any one of them have half the amount of good free simulators as yugioh that don't simulate pack opening?
5059b5 No.15506003
>TFW kept joking about waifu menace but it's mirror is honestly one of the best MU's in YGO for a long time
I like how damn consistent this deck is, never really feel that trash hand where nothing is usable.
>>15502509
Archetype based decks make it easier to figure out how to just pick up and build a deck to play, with MTG or the like it's no where near accessible to make a deck, I remember watching a video on making a deck from the heads of the game and it was just gay ratio shit but it was nothing about what to look for in cards for a play style.
Also YGOpro being 10 times better then any simulator for any card game helps with the accessibility to pick up and play the game part.
f8356d No.15506172
>>15505973
>Does other TCGs have simulators I can run before I go out and buy the sets?
>>15505981
>any one of them have half the amount of good free simulators as yugioh that don't simulate pack opening?
OK so actual reasons for playing Yu-Gi-Oh!, stupid ones but still reasons. If you like playing online, why not just play those digital TCGs? Also, MtG 1997 was an interesting computer game. Do you really want to be a king of a shit pile?
>>15506003
>Archetype based decks make it easier to figure out how to just pick up and build a deck to play, with MTG or the like it's no where near accessible to make a deck
Deck building is pretty hard in MtG. I understand the point of Archetypes but I don't really like them. It is just a flavor of the month monster type.
It isn't like I don't understand preferences but I actually want to try out other TCGs rather than accept a shitty game.
2b3532 No.15506173
>>15506003
It's almost as consistent Nekroz was.
That is, minus the vanities emptiness and vanities emptiness on legs.
2b3532 No.15506178
>>15506172
> If you like playing online, why not just play those digital TCGs
Like hearthstone? Probably because I don't want to open packs, I just want to play the fucking game.
9bbb88 No.15506363
>>15505953
>There is a very good reason why that is the case.
>I like this aspect of the game
<that aspect is bad and you're bad for liking it
>There are good TCGs and Yu-Gi-Oh! isn't one of them.
Good to know, doesn't change the point. There is no new TCG that Yugioh fans are denying from existing.
>>15506172
>f you like playing online, why not just play those digital TCGs?
>why don't you like opening digital packs goyim
I dunno goldstein why wouldn't I like that nonsense when I can have access to literally every yugioh card in existence instead?
9b5163 No.15507166
>>15506178
>Like hearthstone? Probably because I don't want to open packs, I just want to play the fucking game.
>>15506363
>I dunno goldstein why wouldn't I like that nonsense when I can have access to literally every yugioh card in existence instead?
Because you'll at best end up being the king of a shitheap. Making a deck in an infinite pool of banned cards. Besides, you find that specific program yourself.
>that aspect is bad and you're bad for liking it
Why do you think that they have to staple so many different new retarded cost mechanics to the game? Did you really like that aspect of the game or are just unwilling to try anything else?
>Good to know, doesn't change the point. There is no new TCG that Yugioh fans are denying from existing.
>excusing normalfaggotry
Yu-Gi-Oh! is only popular because of its anime/manga.
baa093 No.15507207
>>15507166
>Making a deck in an infinite pool of banned cards
Most decks aren't very affected by the banlist in case you couldn't guess.
>Besides, you find that specific program yourself.
I hope you realize any programs that aren't well known will be pretty much dead right?
>new retarded cost mechanics
Do you mean summoning mechanics? Gimmicks aren't costs and nearly all of them function the fucking same.
They aren't an attempt at balancing, they are marketing gimmicks.
Its probably really easy to make a yugioh type game that isn't broken spaghetti if you know what you're doing(which konami rarely does).
28e6ab No.15509733
>>15506003
>it's mirror is honestly one of the best MU's in YGO for a long time
>I like how damn consistent this deck is, never really feel that trash hand where nothing is usable.
As much shit as Zoo gets, I really like the Zoo mirror, at least pre fusion sub combo
f55650 No.15510302
So..what's this I heard that the Neos support being Gouki support too?
2b3532 No.15510342
>>15507166
>king of a shitheap
not an argument
>banned cards
yu-gi-oh simulators have updating banlists, you're retarded
>just find it yourself
so you don't have a point
good conversation you absolute nigger
2b3532 No.15510347
>>15510302
they're warriors with relatively good effects
9b5163 No.15511155
>>15510342
>not an argument
<I'm going play this shit game because I have nothing better to do.
>yu-gi-oh simulators have updating banlists
Not my point and it is like banlust makes sense.
>>15507207
>Do you mean summoning mechanics? Gimmicks aren't costs and nearly all of them function the fucking same.
What meant by "cost mechanic" is shit mana cost, tribute summon, fusion summon, tunner summon, XYZ summon, Gemini summon, etc.
>Its probably really easy to make a yugioh type game that isn't broken spaghetti if you know what you're doing(which konami rarely does).
Most TCGs don't do that way because the bad outweighs the good. Also, yes Konami doesn't know what it is doing. The card text is a big problem.
Unless you can tell me in a straight face that Yu-Gi-Oh! is a good game, I don't see any reason why you should play it.
2b3532 No.15511665
>>15511155
>Not my point and it is like banlust makes sense.
Then what the fuck do you mean by "playing a deck with an infinite pool of banned cards?"
>I'm going play this shit game because I have nothing better to do.
so no fun allowed?
fuck off nigger
111124 No.15511736
>>15511155
>What meant by "cost mechanic" is shit mana cost,
>mana cost
>yugioh
baa093 No.15511814
>>15511155
>Not my point and it is like banlust makes sense.
I'm guessing you mean doesn't make sense?
If you want to rotate sets without actually rotating them it makes sense no?
Just because its bloated because Konami is retarded at balanced, doesn't make it a bad method I've seen it done well.
>tribute summon, fusion summon, tunner summon, XYZ summon, Gemini summon, etc.
Dumb ass, i just said those are gimmicks;
they aren't any form of balancing outside of tributes(nuking one of your units to summon bigger guys is pretty common in other TCGs anyway).
Your argument still isn't going anywhere, because you can't back the idea that these are even an attempt at balancing or replacing mana costs; they're for diversity.
"tribute summon but from the extra deck X3" is clearly not a balancing factor nor are the spell summons, fusion(extra deck) and ritual(main deck).
The closest to mana costs are discards and such, but even games that have mana tend to use those.
>Most TCGs don't do that way because the bad outweighs the good
There's quite a few TCGs that don't use mana to cast creatures though?
Its honestly like a fifty fifty split really, if you mean manaless games in general then you're right, pretty sure only yugioh really did that.
Mana still makes it a lot more easy to balance effects and makes them easier to diversify.
baa093 No.15511827
>>15511814
Whoops forgot a bit of my banlist argument, by limiting cards one can rotate dominant without fuck huge powercreep;
this is one of the upsides of a banlist, limiting can also limit staples to a certain amount so most decks don't end up too sameish(yugioh's obsession with archetypes somewhat negates this however).
Something else to note is that Erratas use to be hard to issue(its also not the best idea to reprint a powerful card right after it came out), so instead of allowing a game to get fucked by broken card/deck;
one can just ban it(of course a good company would probably errata after this, but >implying konami is a good company)
9b5163 No.15511876
>>15511736
>I gave examples of similar mechanics in TCGs
>take out of context to imply that I meant Yu-Gi-Oh! has mana cost
I was talking about what meant by cost mechanic.
>>15511814
>Dumb ass, i just said those are gimmicks;
And how that change anything?
>they aren't any form of balancing outside of tributes(nuking one of your units to summon bigger guys is pretty common in other TCGs anyway).
You can't summon those cards like normal monsters.
>Your argument still isn't going anywhere, because you can't back the idea that these are even an attempt at balancing or replacing mana costs; they're for diversity.
In games with a mana system, you could summon multiple monsters in one turn (and do other things but I'll not talk about that now). In Yu-Gi-Oh!, you can only normal summon once per turn and tribute summon costs you board advantage which can be reseted by a board sweep. It is like trying to run an economy using only a barter system.
>Just because its bloated because Konami is retarded at balanced, doesn't make it a bad method I've seen it done well.
I was shitting on how Konami does it not the concept itself.
baa093 No.15511931
>>15511876
>And how that change anything?
It means that the only summons that are relevent for your argument are;
>tribute
>normal
as the others are just gimmicks, so your original "bunch of cost mechanics, is irrelevant as most summoning mechanics are superfluous.
And at the end point its quite blatant that tributing is a much different mechanic to mana, its not exactly a lazy alternative and it naturally changes the flow of the game its based around.
Its a good thing to not just be magic but with X.
> It is like trying to run an economy using only a barter system.
Yes but you're forgetting something, there's this thing called balancing around mechanics moron;
yugioh has multiply ways to summon outside of the normal summon.
>You can't summon those cards like normal monsters.
Oh because those cards I'm referencing totally are viable to summon on a empty field, its usually an empty worthless option anyway.
>I was shitting on how Konami does it not the concept itself.
Ah okay then.
81a800 No.15514461
>year of the lord 2014
>want to get back into yu gi oh since friends are doing it too
>used to run stall burn as a kid
>wonder what's the current meta for burn decks
>chain burn
>spend around 20 dollaros to get the cards I was missing
>meanwhile my friends spend around 100 to build their epic meta tier 1 decks full of xyz synchros and other super rare shit
>play with them fairly often
>whoop their asses consistently
>friends eventually don't want to play with me anymore
>maybe I should play with non sore losers
>try it online with all sorts of meta decks
>win consistently
>maybe I should try tournaments
>take part to several locals hosted by different game rooms
>literally win all of them even when everyone started siding aggressively against chain burn
>also get called a faggot for playing chain burn
>fast forward 4 years
>"man, I should play some yu-gi-oh"
>download ygopro again
>chain strike is now limited
>"eh"
>just swap it for an extra secret barrel
>still demolishing every meta deck
>still getting people conceding once they realize I'm running chain burn
>still getting called a faggot
maybe I should try locals again
c72cc9 No.15514484
>>15514461
Have you tried Trickstars? Their gimmick is that you just keep burning your opponent whenever they do anything, and it's not meta anymore then it's at least still very strong.
81a800 No.15514553
>>15514484
can't say I have but I've looked into them and, coming from chain burn and ghostrick, the fact they seem to rely on links and the extra deck makes me want to kill myself. it also seems they have twice the shortcomings of a standard burn deck but maybe I'm wrong, I should give it a try but I have no clue how link summoning works.
28e6ab No.15514760
>>15514553
>the fact they seem to rely on links and the extra deck
don't know what builds you're looking at but they don't at all, Trickstar is one of the least extra deck reliant archetypes since True Draco which is why they paired perfectly with Sky Striker when it hit, gave them an actual use for their extra deck. The Sky Striker engine is hit so you may not even play it anymore and go back to basically just having an extra deck boss monster you only bring out when you resolve scapegoat and otherwise relying on things like Eater of Millions and Mekk-Knights to out big monsters. They're pretty consistent because of how well the core Trickstar engine works and how small it is (another element of why it paired well with Sky Striker) allowing you to play all kinds of mean cards to stop your opponent from having fun. People also hate getting beat by moe anime girls so you'll definitely get people calling you a cunt just for playing the deck too, if that's what you like.
Links are basically synchros but they don't require a tuner and instead need a specific number of materials to match their rating. The only other big piece of information about link summoning is you can only have one extra deck card on the field at any time unless you have a link monster out, which slowed the game down for about a week before they released links that allowed you to combo off even harder than pre-links.
I'm curious of what meta decks you were playing against on ygopro that chain burn could beat, the deck is annoying but I can't see chain burn working through any negates and your turn clock is pretty low in modern day ygo. You also should check out Kaijus, they're like Lava Golem but better in almost every way.
2b3532 No.15516823
>>15511876
>In games with a mana system, you could summon multiple monsters in one turn (and do other things but I'll not talk about that now). In Yu-Gi-Oh!, you can only normal summon once per turn and tribute summon costs you board advantage which can be reseted by a board sweep. It is like trying to run an economy using only a barter system.
translated
>I don't know how to special summon and got my ass handed to me by a retarded child playing gouki
81a800 No.15516843
>>15514760
>They're pretty consistent because of how well the core Trickstar engine works and how small it is (another element of why it paired well with Sky Striker) allowing you to play all kinds of mean cards to stop your opponent from having fun. People also hate getting beat by moe anime girls so you'll definitely get people calling you a cunt just for playing the deck too, if that's what you like.
if, as you say, they don't need the extra deck or links much, I guess that sounds pretty good, I'll build one on ygopro and give it a spin, I actually wanted to get into yu gi oh again after reminiscing the good times. I also just noticed they actually did release all the fucking timelord monsters which, when back then I used to run one metaion, seemed insanely good. I remember one of the game rooms' owners made fun of me saying "lol they'll never release those op anime cards" back when I mentioned the possibility of a legal physical release, joke's on him.
>what meta decks you were playing against
gee, dude, I don't fucking know. I guess you've never played an archetype like chain burn and can't understand the implications of doing so, it's basically like playing solitaire.
I usually don't ever give a shit what my opponent is doing or summoning, so I never really paid too much attention to the archetypes I've been up against ever. as long as they're not negating my draws and stall cards, all's good in the neighborhood, all the burn cards combined have the potential of dealing around 25k damage in the best case scenarios, and the opponent can only negate so many of them, in fact, it's actually much better if they negate burn damage.
>I can't see chain burn working through any negates
yes, that's pretty much true but then again, how many negates does the average deck run? I've only ever had a bit of trouble with that during best of 3, after siding when royal decrees, bribes, trap stun and such started raining, hell I've even had people who sided x3 prohibition.
894a52 No.15524196
Anyone got a neos decklist?
2e425f No.15524392
009593 No.15524458
>>15524392
Is it bumplocked already?