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Cover system, quick time events and probability to hit is based on dice rolls you can't see.

>>15206783

If you do this. And you really go through with it i'll throw money at you

I’d make it so the models don’t sway their hips like faggots when they walk.

Beat 'em up/hack 'n slash gameplay for melee because it's unforgivably atrocious.

>>15206854

Huh, she's kinda cute

More put into creeping around, bit like Thief. I think it should be easier to break the masquerade too, hardly ever seemed like a problem unless I was being intentionally brutal.

>>15206896

If you make it too easy to break, then combat focused brawler characters would be unable to finish the game.

>>15206778

So nuDeus-Ex with Morrowind combat, got it

>>15206981

Yeah, it wouldn't make it more interesting for certain clans. Just felt like most of the combat was too corralled off, some sections sort of like The Ship would have been interesting. I guess that example comes to mind because Source engine.

add a little bit more weight to the melee. everything has a very cartoony feel to it, which is a major turn off for me with this game. also, the crouching animation sucks ass. maybe just better animations and use of physics in general

>>15206778

You forgot leveling all the enemies, and bosses to your character anon.

>>15206739

more weight, feels like your hitting puddy

lock-on, especially when feeding, And fighting those 2 legged sabbat things in the sewers

>>15207053

What the fuck is going on in this webm?

>>15206739

The gameplay is fundamentally shit and it sinks the entire game. There's no fixing that without basically overhauling everything from the engine on up.

>>15207324

>soundless webm

>>>/cuckchan/

I personally really liked the combat, but I only ever played the unofficial patch. Was the combat changed by that? And if not, what does everyone hate about the combat? It was a tad clunky at first, but when I got used to it I liked it a lot. That being said, I also unironically enjoyed the Witcher 1's combat after I got used to it too, so maybe I have shit taste.

>>15206739

Remove dice rolls on gun damage, gun skill should just be a gate to which guns you can use.

Make the Melee work similar to Jedi Academy.

Make the story content a bit more sandboxy where you don't get shoehorned into playing Camerilla from the start instead starting from your races faction, also introducing a faction reputation system where you can do quests for each faction and their relationship changes cutting you off from content if you piss them off too much (the game already sort of does that bit its shoehorned in at certain dialogue tree breaks, I'd rather it be tied to a reputation system that way you're not forced into betraying anyone, you choose to betray people and play them off against each other).

Remove the stat dependency on armour and instead introduce armour modifications like you see with Jagged Alliance where you can still retain the cosmetic look of the armour but the stats are dependant on whats under the armour like plating ect.

Remove all the shitty load screens.

I walked up to a guy, stepped behind him, and stabbed him in the back with a katana while his friend was right next to him without setting off any alarms. Fixing that would probably be a step in the right direction.

>>15206739

>without changing the engine used

What, are CCP gonna C&D me if I do?

Make the melee combat like that of Dark Messiah

>>15206840

>not knowing that that vampires were always F A B U L O U S

I'm told white wolf was always pozzed, even before SJWs.

>>15207053

Fucking rice nigger. What did he think was behind the first set of elevator doors?

>>15207988

>gun skill should just be a gate to which guns you can use

I'd say make it affect spread/reticle size. You can always wield and fire a gun you don't know how to use, and occasionally hit something, but you still suck.

>>15206739

Difficult to say. Would having made the combat turn based detract from the atmosphere and immersion the first/third person perspective created? Is there really a point in making a cRPG where you control a single character turn based?

What is really obvious is that the combat needed serious rebalancing, especially concerning human enemies and firearms.

Still should change the engine

Source is so outdated that porting to Cryengine, Unreal or Unity would fix like bulk of the bugs that are left

>>15223591

To be fair back when Bloodlines came out the facial animations and lip-synch were pretty good and added a lot to the game. I still don't think it was worthwhile wasting all the time and effort on an unfinished engine. They should have just reused the Arcanum engine with the talking heads from Fallout, ditched the real time combat and added control of party members.

>>15223598

>wiki

>sabbat are too toxic

>lets (((revisionism))) them

<The game's different for some reason

I'm speaking out of my ass. My only exposure to WoD is VTMB, but I can easily see something like that happening as of the current year

>>15223608

/tg/ here. White Wolf has been roughly 10 years ahead of SJWs for as long as I've been aware of them. Recent editions chastise the player as having something wrong with them if you're okay with vampires but not non-binary gender bullshit.

D&D has been heading down that road since 3rd edition (using female pronouns as the default) and Pathfinder flat out has canon trans characters in it's plotlines.

Nobody I know that plays TTRPGs pays for them for a reason. Fortunately, modding out the trash is as easy as saying "fuck that" and it ceases to exist in your game.

>>15217057

You mean add a kick ability?

>>15224298

>Fortunately, modding out the trash is as easy as saying "fuck that" and it ceases to exist in your game.

That's really not solving the root cause though.

>>15224312

Granted. But there's not much one can do besides boycott. The ease of modding tabletops kind of lets you have your cake and eat it too, not merely pirating their games but pirating their games and then being able to completely ignore their fluff and just use the rules.

>>15223581

White Wolf was always pozzed. Werewolf was always the most pozzed, seeing as you basically play as lycanthropic Eco-terrorists. That was the game that gave us shit like a matriarchal clan that killed all male children born into it, or a group of Amerindian werewolfs that at one point start indescriminately murdering people because a cop shot a redskin.

Then you have the stuff like one of the template characters in the old Malkav splat book being Alex Jones. But it was balanced out since you also had things like the Thule society being a faction in Hunter. New WoD turned the pozz factor up to 11,as

>>15224298

pointed out.

>>15223598

I always liked Giovanni, mostly because i'm a fan of mafia stuff, necromancy, and incest doujins

>>15224327

>>15224298

>>15224375

I've been mulling over a homebrew on and off for a few years now

>male characters get extra physical strength/endurance stats at creation

>female characters get extra social boon/persuasion/manipulation stats at creation

>setting is "mystical eastern lands" and combat is mostly hand-to-hand

>include a chapter on "secret societies and rituals" kind of "inspired" by age of wushu

>if the PCs learn about them, they can undergo the ritual if they manage to track down the heads of these societies

>society of eunuchs: if you're male, get your family jewels lopped off for the following trade-offs: lose the manly bonuses to physical stats and gain resistance to social influences, especially from females. Incur penalties when attempting to seduce females. Gain bonus when attempting to seduce males, if you're playing at a table full of degenerates, I guess Crotch shots that successfully land are no longer debilitating. You're all sewn up down there, so you gotta squat/sit down when you pee!

>society of barrens: if you're female, get your ovaries torn out for the following trade-offs: small bonus to physical stats, but lose some of your bonuses for social stats. Congrats, little boy, you grew your first mustache! Incur penalties when attempting to seduce males. successful attempts at seducing females results in them feeling cheated and angry with you when they see you can't give them the dicking you made them want, if that's the sort of degeneracy your group is into There's the option of going the whole hog and getting the double mastectomy, which lets you gain full bonuses to physical stats, and you lose the rest of your social bonuses. Blows to the chest that land successfully are no longer debilitating. You also have scar tissue in all appropriate places.

>neither of these rituals are reversible, but you don't suffer the (sometimes literal) insanity of HRT, and you don't have to dilate

>last note: you have to roll to see if you survive the ritual. Both societies tout "do it to be free of the biological realities that limit you!" but risk of death is very real with any surgery, and even more so with the tools of the setting

The half-way genderswap isn't even the main draw of the game I've been mulling over; it's just an afterthought I had after playing age of wushu for a bit. The main draw is supposed to be martial arts with some elements mixed in. I haven't decided if it should be down to earth low fantasy, or over the fucking top, like jumping up to rooftops, running on water, and snatching flies with chopsticks; or if the elemental stuff is just adopting its aspects into your fighting style, or going full-on Avatar with it

would fa/tg/uys play this?

I have another question since there seems to be /tg/ guys here. If you choose Camarilla ending Strauss becomes the prince. But aren't Tremere hated and not trusted by rest of the clans? Would a Tremere prince be accepted?

>>15226803

If I'm not mistaken, the Tremere aren't trusted because they're super powerful. It would be rule by iron first rather than selfess loyalty.

>>15223581

Re-writing your entire manual in the editing phase just because you "don't like how all the manuals are written from a 'male perspective'" and changing every third iteration of "he" to "she" is about as pozzed as a company could get back then…

>>15226833

I don't know much about WoD myself and only learned through vtmb and searching stuff on internet, but I think the hate was because they became vampires with blood magic instead of traditional embracing and diablerising Saulot. Also they are very secretive and put their clans first instead of Camarilla, say unlike Ventrue

>>15226918

marathon some South Park

>>15226918

Have you tried not being a little bitch?

>>15206739

Maybe something with more over the top combat like in Yakuza, cause you're a vampire who can fuck up normal people, and even other vampires if you're fucking strong enough.

>>15226918

On the reverse side of this, as someone who spends the better part of the year living literally smack-dab in middle of where the game is set, when I first walked into Downtown and watch a few thugs chase each other down an alley with guns out, all I could think to myself was "ah yes, this is accurate."

Also, stop being a little bitch.

>>15207988

>>15223581

These gun ideas are good too. Maybe make it like Payday where gun skills affects weapon stats, except for damage?

>>15226853

Did this actually happen?

>>15226864

the hate from the other clans was only in the beginning really. the distrust stayed, but the only clan that really remained a permanent enemy were the butthrut tzimisce in denial

>>15227144

Read "20th Anniversary Edition Vampire: The Masquerade" … and cringe.

>>15227381

>20th Anniversary Edition Vampire: The Masquerade

>and cringe.

did they put a bunch of new-speak sjw crap in it?

>>15224375

>But it was balanced out since you also had things like the Thule society being a faction in Hunter.

How does that balance out anything? Thule Society is as dead as the third Reich and the Loyalists of Thule are all "oh mah gawd! Hitler and those horrible nazis. We are so sorry." 24/7.

>>15226833

>If I'm not mistaken, the Tremere aren't trusted because they're super powerful.

Dohohohoho. Tremere aren't trusted, because they are blood-thieving mages who stole their immortality.

They aren't embraced. They can't trace their line back to some Antedeluvian. They captured some random vampires (mostly Tzimisce) threw them into a blender, added magic shit and drank what came out in the end to become vampires.

They were also really, really weak vampires at first and the Tzimisce clan was really, really pissed off due to the whole capture vampires thing. What do the Tremere do? They capture even more Tzimisce and this time some Gangrel and Nosferatu as well. Then they threw them into a blender added some magic shit and stones and out came the magical vampire slave race known as Gargoyles. Now they not only had the Tzimisce gunning for them, but also the Nosferatu and Gangrel.

They were protected by their magic slave race now, but they themselves are still weak as fuck vampires. They need a solution for that and the solution was of course diablerie. Diablerie of an antedeluvian, specifically the antedeluvian of the broest clan out there, full of legit nice guys. They did that by framing said broest of broes for being devil worshipping nutjobs and tricking all the other clans into eradicating them while the Tremere boss sucks the sleeping antedeluvian dry. Worked nigh flawlessy, except some bros escaped and the Tzimisce know the truth of the matter.

They now have 3rd gen strength in their clan, but at some point, I don't know exactly when, their slave race vampires revolted against them. So they have the Tzimisce, the Nosferatu, the Gangrel, what's left of the Salubri and the Gargoyles who want them dead. Tremere are stronk, but that's a fight they can't win.

The solution the Tremere came up with is to not fight at all. Camarilla clans are chained by Camarilla laws and the Tzimisce would have to fight through the Camarilla to get to them. When people say that the Tremere are loyal the clan and to the clan only, they say nothing but the truth. For every other Camarilla vampire, the Camarilla is a tool to protect and hide them from the combined wrath of humanity. For the Tremere, the Camarilla is a tool to protect them from the combined wrath of the other clans.

>>15224473

Fuck off with your chink shit joe

>>15227959

Thanks for the fluff. Never knew the Tremere were such scum. How'd they become Camarilla? Is there a quick way to get into all the WoD fluff, or is the inborn poz of it not worth doing?

>>15228055

>Joe

This is the second time I'm accused of being another anon. I just wanted to ponder a martial arts fantasy RPG. Is /tg/ simply not into that sort of thing? Is it heresy?

>>15228195

>How'd they become Camarilla?

They peddled their magic skills to the Camarilla, basically becoming court mages for the princes.

I fucked the above up, by the way. They sucked the antediluvian dry first and the smear campaign only came after the other clans called them out on it.

Improving the combat is a bit of a waste of time for this game if you ask me. It's linear in the way that grinding doesn't make sense and the appeal of this game is in the quests and interaction with the NPCs rather than in the combat. If I were to download mods I'd download the ones that add more quests and new locations rather than mods that just tweak the gameplay.

>>15227959

>They did that by framing said broest of broes for being devil worshipping nutjobs and tricking all the other clans into eradicating them while the Tremere boss sucks the sleeping antedeluvian dry.

saulot allowed himself to be diablerized by tremere

>>15228195

the tremere are not scum. they are literally jesus christ savior tier that save the world from ravnos

>>15227765

Read: >>15226853

who else is clan Gangrel, here?

>>15229633

I agree fellow kindred, the tremere are truly our greatest ally.

>>15227830

Full Disclosure, I only ever played Vampire and Mage.

Different ID since I’m posting from my laptop.

>>15227830

Himmler was embraced by a Tremere, but he was immune to the bloodbond so he become Tremere Antribu and returned to Berlin to help run a Neo-Nazi Anarch group. Being a Tremere Antribu it is believed he died in 1998 when the Tremere killed off all their Antribu in a trap in Mexico City, but other members from Himmler's specific Tremere Antribu "sect" have been revealed to have escaped this trap so it's likely he survived until at least Gahenna. Hitler was also hinted at being embraced by a vampire (Most likely Ventrue) as he was immune to the tricks of the neighborhood commie Brujah who tried to expand his power base at the "peak" of the Wiemar Republic.

>>15223598

>Also Sabbat are quite different from how they're shown in game too

To be somewhat fair, most of the Sabbat you interact with are cannon fodder shovelheads. Andrei is truer to what the Sabbat are about, Path of Metamorphosis included.