f0deeb No.15191246
Why exactly does everyone claim that this piece of shit is better than Fusion?
>lazy remake that's inferior to the NES version
>environments are bland and forgettable
>tons of tedious block breaking. It's not even challenging like it was in Fusion.
>music is way worse. Brinstar doesn't sound nearly as epic. Norfair doesn't sound as scary etc.
>retarded section added after Mother Brain where you lose all your equipment and have to go through on of the worst stealth sections in any game I've ever played
>shitty tacked on final boss. Why would Ridley make a robot version of himself?
dfdab2 No.15191254
>>15191246
>>lazy remake that's inferior to the NES version
69b10f No.15191261
>>15191246
>Why exactly does everyone claim that this piece of shit is better than Fusion?
Do you have anything to back up this statement or are you just a faggot?
f0deeb No.15191286
>>15191261
Are you illiterate?
6ff4e8 No.15191300
>better than Fusion?
It is and only because it doesn't bungle the formula like fusion did. If you
>made dialogue skippable
>made several conversations skippable entirely so you don't have to check out and in every time
>removed the security locks
Fusion would btfo ZM forever. I just played through both again actually, and Fusion came so close to being great, it just fucks up what already worked. ZM might be a remake of the original, but in practice it's more like a gimped, pocket Super, which is still better than the railroaded, DIALOGUE IN A METROID GAME fuckfest that was Fusion.
e22fdf No.15191311
>>15191246
>lazy remake that's inferior to the NES version
Dumbest thing I've read all week. You can argue it's inferior but where the fuck are you getting lazy from; it's all new from the engine up.
38be4b No.15191771
Fusion is the best one but purists don’t like it, it’s as simple as that
1bc13a No.15191832
>>15191246
I don't think you have room to call ZM "lazy" when the original has literal copy/paste rooms and hallways.
8c7ccf No.15192631
>>15191246
>Why exactly does everyone claim that this piece of shit is better than Fusion?
I don't claim that. your thread is now invalid. check 'em
ea8f8b No.15193026
>>15191246
> remake
Zero Mission is basically a stripped-down Super Metroid. SM was basically already a "remake" of the first game (not story-wise of course), and ZM does what SM does, except less of it.
>>15191832
It was done to save memory on the tiny NES cartridges. The rooms are not copy&paste, they are literally the same segments of memory.
2b278f No.15193330
1bc13a No.15193352
>>15193026
The reference to the memory location was still copy&paste.
332cdc No.15193360
>>15191246
>Why exactly does everyone claim that this piece of shit is better than Fusion?
Because it is better than Fusion.
6d1edc No.15193384
>>15191246
>why
Fusion is garbage only out garbaged by other men.
f0b87d No.15193399
metroid have a big boobs
wow what a boobs
69b10f No.15193445
>>15191286
I don't see you providing proof that "everyone" say that ZM is better than Fusion.
Retarded faggot.
d6c3a0 No.15193627
>>15191246
Why can't you just like both?
12c253 No.15193631
does zero mission refer to the amount of clothes she wears?
4b55ee No.15193943
Fusion is my favorite metroid, I like the horror aspect and being hunted by the SA-X, wish they did more with that concept.
b41636 No.15194269
>>15193943
There's a "fan theory" that the Samus in Other M is a SA-X clone that believes it is Samus. Nintendo hates the shit out of Metroid and only made the shit Metroid 2 remake because AM2R embarrassed the shit out of them.
fe722c No.15194277
>>15194269
if datz wuz true why would sax try to kill the player?
14406d No.15194305
>>15191771
>wordswordswordswords
>samus go here then here then here, no exploration allowed
>start of muh Adam cancer
>bosses are shit
>shoebox size areas
Only good thing in that garbage game was when X was hunting you down.
01bdfe No.15194308
Because Fusion was that bad.
b26bef No.15194312
>>15194269
My own fan theory of Fusion is that the SA-X managed to infiltrate the ship during the power outage, because you were away from it for an extended period of time. It was mentioned that Adam's brain was uploaded to the computer of the ship, and that the X were able to biologically process data, and also harvest memories (Varia Suit, Norfair scientist clone, BOX security robot)
The SA-X would have had Samus' memories and knew that the ship contained Adam, and thus gained access to a huge pool of information, including how to manipulate Samus (eg via lockdown and threatening the Federation). After Samus put the BSL into a collision course with the planet, the X re-evaluated its chance of survival, and allied with Samus to kill the Omega Metroid, and escape on her ship.
14406d No.15194336
>>15194308
>Sakamoto
I can't believe i actually forgot about him.
14406d No.15194372
>>15194343
>>15194344
What are you doing?
06518e No.15194387
>>15194308
I like Fusion bit I am also bad at video games.
b03e9e No.15194397
>>15194308
Better than Prime.
01bdfe No.15194402
>>15194397
I don't even like Prime or think it's that good and you're probably just baiting, but no, no it's not.
81a655 No.15194447
Is this supposed to be a bizzaro version of the thread about remakes that surpass the original? This is almost the same OP with the opinions flipped around.
01bdfe No.15194512
>>15194447
How do you know the original thread wasn't the bizarro thread? Zero Mission is a remake that utterly misses the point of the original.
14406d No.15194555
>>15194512
How?
Entertain us, you filthy ape!
eb0ebd No.15195361
>>15191246
<lazy remake that's inferior to the NES version
>you can crouch and shoot and wall jump. Your argument is flawed.
<environments are bland and forgettable
>the environment is well defined as the primary 4 areas of grasses/moss, stone, fire, and hieroglyphs
<tons of tedious block breaking. It's not even challenging like it was in Fusion.
>implying he block breaking in fusion was difficult
<music is way worse. Brinstar doesn't sound nearly as epic. Norfair doesn't sound as scary etc.
>webm related proves you have shit taste
<retarded section added after Mother Brain where you lose all your equipment and have to go through on of the worst stealth sections in any game I've ever played
>the section is piss easy and helps emphasize how fucking OP Samus is with her power suit
<shitty tacked on final boss. Why would Ridley make a robot version of himself?
>what is an AI backup + stopgap for when Ridley is injured and needs mechanical prosthetics
2eed0d No.15195501
reminder Samus Returns was a success
2eed0d No.15195521
>>15194269
the fan theory is shit since the SA-X didn't come to fruition after Samus and the GF's revisit at SR388
afea3b No.15195524
>>15195501
>reminder Reddit is a success
2eed0d No.15195529
>>15195524
Reddit likes AM2R too, you know? :)
59eff7 No.15195928
>>15195501
It was a pretty good game. The post-game was dumb but bossfights were fun.
eb0ebd No.15196215
>>15194269
You got the theory wrong.
80b5e4 No.15196263
>>15191246
>I personally preferred one game over the other
>I make threads saying the one I liked less is straight up garbage, because I know that gets more replies than simply "I didn't like it as much"
1bc13a No.15197917
>>15195501
While I'm glad Nintendo got shown that Metroid still sells, I'm afraid they'll get the wrong message from the success of Samus Returns. I really don't want that awful counter mechanic to be shoved in every future game.
81a655 No.15198048
>>15194512
Now rephrase that without using a copypasted response and give us some actual reasons.
>Inb4 "not an argument" in response to an argument
87a25b No.15205498
>>15191246
It is way better than the NES version. I also don't like the stealth section too much but it wasn't completely awful. It should have just been an unlockable side story content. They could have padded out Brinstar and the main game a little more before you fight Mother Brain. Mother Brain should have definitely been the final ending boss before the escape and then goes to credits. Also Metal Ridley is sort of cool although really damn easy.
Zero Mission is excellent. I like Fusion better but ZM is still amazing.
87a510 No.15205524
>>15191246
>music is way worse. Brinstar doesn't sound nearly as epic.
This is subjective, but you're a pleb with horrible taste.
bb6c2b No.15205669
I still like the original Metroid the best because it didn't have a map. The map in these games kind of become a crutch that I look at every few seconds and remove the sense of explanation.
700702 No.15208225
>>15205669
After playing through GB Metroid 2 for the first time while drawing out a crude map on paper (after hearing a story of someone doing it for the original Metroid), it always seemed like a missed opportunity that Nintendo didn't make an original side scrolling Metroid for the NDS/3DS with a user made map drawing function on the touch screen.
I'll admit outside of a first playthrough it might not be that great of idea (unless the game has some sort of random level design function that changes slightly on each playthrough instead of remaining static).
d4e051 No.15208241
>skippable dialog
>sequence breaking
gee i dunno
7c68ee No.15208247
Fusion is my favorite Metroid game tbh.
2f7f3a No.15212206
>>15191246
Coz it has smoother mechanics and the pacing is far more consistent.
If you think the NES version is better then you have rocks in your head.
90204d No.15213222
>shit suit design
>constant story interrupts
>more arbitrary door locking and unlocking
>mini-segmented levels making it a less interconnected labyrinth experience
>constantly telling you where to go (ZM does this too but it's more vague)
>less opportunities to sequence break the game
>obnoxious and ear raping power beam and charge beam sound
Seems pretty easy to understand why for me.
dfbf2e No.15216144
>why would Ridley make a robot version of himself
I mean the Space Pirate Bosses seem to love having statues built in their image that help block off Tourian. In any case it served a purpose since it seemingly managed security for Ridley’s ship and continued the fight against Samus after all three higher ups were defeated. Given that this was after Meta-Ridley was a thing in Metroid Prime as well, its probably meant to tie things in there too. Probably had its parts or blueprints used to help realize Meta-Ridley, explaining why they could revive him for the Prime Seroes but the other two aren’t seen again until Super.
5c00aa No.15216189
>>15191246
Wow anon you are so cool, those are some great opinions haha.
5d189f No.15216307
Zero Mission’s one of those “Remakes” that basically reimagines a game to be more inline with with the modern series. Everyone’s entitled to their opinions and Zero Mission is not perfect but the series moved on from the original game’s map design. Tons of rooms that looks the same and loads of really long vertical paths that are no fun to traverse.
e6e35c No.15216581
>>15194308
>Not playing the superior franchise