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f259cf No.15183137

>2010

>Hey the guys who made Bayonetta made a new game

>Play the demo

>Oh it's just a generic cover shooter Pass

>Someone gifts me the game on steam so I give it a 2nd chance

>HOLY SHIT THE COVER SHOOTING IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL AND ISN'T EVEN THE REAL WAY YOUR SUPPOSED TO PLAY

>Have a blast

Why did this game flop? I didn't realize Japs could make such great shooters.

3682f7 No.15183139

I thought it was a modest/moderate success?


7d669b No.15183144

what is the real way to play?


b9b5bb No.15183168

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.


c2f71a No.15183247

Japanese people make better shooters whenever they try but it's kind of a dead end genre and hard to do much with it besides point and click so it doesn't get much attention.


5050d2 No.15183314

Making the entire game be beatable as a cover shooter was a mistake, the devs should've made changed the enemy design to encourage mobility. The blue shotgun robots were pretty good for that, I'm not sure why they didn't make more enemies like those.


c6d016 No.15183325

>>15183144

Juke, jive, powerslide and abuse bullet time.


647546 No.15183355

It is kinda odd, Platinum is usually better about teaching you how to play their games intuitively than that. Except when they wanna mess with journalists like making I think it was the dodge mechanic in The Wonderful 101 a shop item you had to dig around in the menus for.


d61745 No.15183363

I really want to see what a Japanese Classic FPS built around M+KB setup would be like.


fcdb2d No.15183401

File: 1ec6aaf054e4672⋯.jpg (41.39 KB, 540x535, 108:107, weeb gangster.jpg)

>>15183247

>Japanese people make better shooters.

Name one chink shooter that isn't complete garbage.


bd15b6 No.15183402

>>15183168

hooktube no longer works at blocking google.


f38769 No.15183404

I recently replayed it for the first time since its release and aside from >>15183314 i also found

the amount of cutscenes in it really overbearing and also its attempts at being over the top felt aged and outdone by revengeance


c6d016 No.15183485

>>15183401

>(Good) chink shooter

There are none, but we're talking about a nip shooter here. Give it a try, don't resign yourself to using cover.


023255 No.15184229

>>15183137

I presume it was because there was no multiplayer, also not much replay value other than to beat your scores, no new costumes or stuff.


c2f71a No.15184232

>>15183401

I don't play Chinese (Western) games


f00c0c No.15184235

>>15183401

Resident Evil 4. In fact, it's one of the best video games ever made.


7e222a No.15184261

>>15184235

>shooter with deliberately shit controls to provide artificial difficulty

Nah it's garbage.


f4b2f1 No.15184270

>>15184261

Resident Evil 4 didn't have tank controls though, you're thinking of RE 1-3.


023255 No.15184285

>>15184270

Actually RE4 HAD tank controls, you didn't strafe with left and right, you rotated, the only difference was the camera.


1f6c91 No.15184496

File: 2f588e162021ff5⋯.jpeg (45.8 KB, 555x250, 111:50, EDF_4_PS4-0.jpeg)

File: 0692708f0d7025d⋯.jpg (10.41 KB, 259x194, 259:194, AC2.jpg)


64c552 No.15184530

>>15184496

Well, you definitely do shoot chinks in EDF.


6cf348 No.15184543

File: 5317e001f3293d5⋯.jpg (40.26 KB, 460x215, 92:43, Binary Domain.jpg)


47d5f4 No.15184551

>>15184496

Man I fucking love Armored Core 2.

I hope 6 brings us back towards the AC2 experience.

3rd generation was great

4th gen turned into a completely different game

5th gen was objectively shit though

Hopefully they learned their lesson.


bb2388 No.15184595

File: d2491ed4bedb895⋯.jpg (57.08 KB, 550x550, 1:1, jorge wants to be hardcore.jpg)

>>15183137

>HOLY SHIT THE COVER SHOOTING IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL

It is not optional. I couldn't get into Vanquish since I wanted to do cool stuff but kept getting forced into cover to recover energy. Having to keep doing that over and over made the game tedious.


007cb9 No.15184601

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15184595

>I wanted to do cool stuff but kept getting forced into cover

That's because you're not good enough to be cool


55d07f No.15185143

>>15183137

>HOLY SHIT THE COVER SHOOTING IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL

Cover shooting isn't optional though, it's the punishment for being shit at the game.


d71ee7 No.15185153

Is there a fully updated torrent available? Want that FPS bug sorted out but all I found were the game itself and dead updates separately.


b99801 No.15185231

>>15183168

>still using hooktube

Check the changelog fag, it's merely a lightweight youtube now.


55d07f No.15185239

File: f533cd8cb68af62⋯.jpg (57.22 KB, 700x393, 700:393, standard_231625.jpg)

>>15183168

>Rich: "I love the enemy design of Vanquish"

>Goes on to describe the enemies of Binary Domain

Is he getting early onset dementia from struggling with obesity related type II diabeetus? I mean, they're both published by Sega and have somewhat similar design elements, so I could kind of understand the mistake - but it's a mistake you'd expect to see out of "professional games journalists" who don't actually play games.


8d08b1 No.15185271

File: df149bc24e2f521⋯.png (1.51 MB, 1130x1428, 565:714, Remove SanFran.png)


c6d016 No.15185304

File: e9a0f509238c1fd⋯.webm (2.84 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, ELIMINATE SANFRAN CLIQUES.webm)


ab0211 No.15185408

>>15184601

Vanquish exposes depressed or creatively sapped people. Anyone who plays Vanquish and just pot shots his way through has no vitality.


c83f51 No.15186111

>>15184543

BD was actually really fun


1c5c79 No.15189243

Is there any way to shoot while jetting forward without activating slow mo? I actually hate slo mo shit in vidya.


bed3a3 No.15189277

>>15183137

Yeah just be sure to underclock your hardware so as to not take damage too fast. Fucking nip programming.


c6d016 No.15189284

>>15189277

>Not accepting the challenge and beating the game on Godhard anyway

Casual.


300d60 No.15189288

>Why did this game flop?

Because it's an overhyped generic cover shooter.

Its mythical fame died the moment it got the PC port and people realized it's nothing special.


f259cf No.15189291

>>15189288

It's hilarious you say this because it was the exact opposite for me. I know realize it wasn't a generic cover shooter and you don't/shouldn't use any cover.


2e19c6 No.15189293

>>15189288

If you're finding yourself stuck hiding behind cover that's because you didn't figure out the trick to keep you going yet.


300d60 No.15189310

File: 8da37911a444dca⋯.jpg (34.72 KB, 414x577, 414:577, 1082.jpg)

>>15189291

>>15189293

>You can use the energy you get to perform all sorts of crazy shit!

<But the meter goes down in 3 seconds and you're forced to go back into cover while waiting for the cooldown

>You can slide around with your knee boosters!

<Which is just a different coat of paint for sprinting

>You can use bullet time!

<Which is fucking easymode garbage that makes everything slower because you can't keep up with enemies at normal speed, and the game is BASED AROUND IT

>regenerating health

>3 weapon limit

>QTE's everywhere

>Levels filled to the brim with chest-high walls to crouch behind, but oh the game surely isn't supposed to be played like that

>Slow-ass basic movement speed

>You can't even jump

>Hipfire is deliberately made inaccurate so that you can't run and gun and you have to go into aiming down sights mode

>You can't even strafe unless you go into the aiming down sights mode where your movement speed is reduced to a crawl and you can't see shit because the FOV is zoomed in.

>This is supposed to be a fast-paced shooter, yet you effectively stand still while shooting.

Vanquish is a generic amalgamation of every soulless triple-A game mechanic. It's like a slightly less retarded cousin of Gears of War.


c6d016 No.15189314

>>15189288

>>15189293

Even if you're pinned down, you can still stop and have a smoke-break.


300d60 No.15189324

>>15189310

Forgot to mention

>Bulletsponge enemies

>Generic spess muhreen satire plot

It tried to reinvent the wheel and failed miserably. Binary Domain was a better game.


f259cf No.15189341

>>15189324

>X is a generic shooter so now i'm going to praise a game with actual generic cover shooting combat


300d60 No.15189355

>>15189341

Are you mad that I called your precious memegame out? At least Binary Domain had actual distinction from the rest, like limb-based damage and breakable armor, which was present even in bosses.


c6d016 No.15189384

>>15189324

>Generic space marine satire plot

The plot was conceived after the gameplay premise which was "I want to slide up rapidly to an enemy using cover and shoot the shit out of them."

You should give Vanquish a second chance and regardless quit being a no-fun faggot, you'll find you'll like it once you understand playing the game as a generic cover shooter is the punishment for being bad at the game.


f259cf No.15189389

>>15189355

>A cover based shooter with meh gameplay is better than a game with good gameplay because I was shit at it and had to take cover

I am playing Vanquish for the first time right now and I have yet to use cover for more than a second


300d60 No.15189414

>>15189389

You're not even playing on Godhard, because at that difficulty staying out of cover for too long will wreck your shit, and your movement is leashed to a cooldown. You fucking lying cunt.

>Binary Domain

>Meh gameplay

Bet you couldn't even get past the Spider boss.


c55080 No.15189431

>>15189414

>Binary Domain

The game where you go around headshotting to clear rooms without ever facing a threat for 95% of the game and then fight some decent bosses? It was alright but comparing it to stuff like >>15184601 doesn't hold water.


bcd0f9 No.15189434

>>15189414

>playing Vanquish for the first time

>God Hard is unlocked after you beat the game once

Did you think this through?


00c022 No.15189438

>>15183137

>Why did this game flop?

It didn't though, barely any platinum games lose money since they actually know how to manage a budget.


55d07f No.15189685

File: 31f82d766c417d4⋯.jpg (101.84 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1465355121099.jpg)

File: e47683060c174d7⋯.jpg (238.55 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Hilldog Ends It 1.jpg)

File: dbf80c4c81ed49b⋯.jpg (225.02 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Hilldog Ends It 2.jpg)

File: f3d6fdca81367dd⋯.jpg (224.5 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Hilldog Ends It 3.jpg)

>>15189324

>>Generic spess muhreen satire plot

>In which the hipster capital of the world is vaporized from space

>In which not-Hillary commits suicide after being cornered when her plan fails and it's outed that she's a sociopathic powermongering criminal bitch

It really is the little touches that can make me forgive even a generic story, and elevate it to something greater.


adc582 No.15189993

>>15189310

><But the meter goes down in 3 seconds and you're forced to go back into cover while waiting for the cooldown

It's called meter management and taking short breaks of recovery inbetween bouts of action, overheating is your punishment for abusing energy too much with melee actions being your desperation breakout moves

><Which is just a different coat of paint for sprinting

Except you can actually fire and throw grenades while sliding

><Which is fucking easymode garbage that makes everything slower because you can't keep up with enemies at normal speed

It's so based around it that they give you 50% less of it on God Hard

People have been pulling off impressive shit with Vanquish when it was only playable with a controller at 30fps, you are only making yourself look more casual. It's largely there to let you shoot more accurately when performing high-speed maneuvers or when you're doing shit like hitting grenades mid-air to make them explode. But at no point are you forced to use slo-mo (unless you are at critical health), aside from the final boss who starts moving around impossibly fast (which is when they give you 200% energy anyways)

>>regenerating health

Perfectly suitable for keeping things fast, moreover your health is essentially tied to your energy, get hit too much and you enter recovery mode automatically as a means of reversal or to retreat, get hit too much while you're overheating and you're boned

>>3 weapon limit

Would be cool to have all at once

>>QTE's everywhere

The rest of the game is challenging enough and the QTEs themselves are cool enough to make up for it

>>Levels filled to the brim with chest-high walls to crouch behind, but oh the game surely isn't supposed to be played like that

The game literally penalizes your score depending on how much time you spend behind cover

>>Slow-ass basic movement speed

To make sliding more useful in comparison, also learn to roll

>>You can't even jump

As cool as that would be, in Vanquish' case having jumping and sliding at the same time would shake up the core gameplay so much that it would necessitate different enemies and level design entirely. A jump on its own is kind of pointless, though the melee attack on the HMG lets you do a backflip in the air to let you shoot from above which kind of covers the function of a jump

>>Hipfire is deliberately made inaccurate so that you can't run and gun and you have to go into aiming down sights mode

Depends per weapon, the starting Assault Rifle is highly accurate even outside ADS

>>You can't even strafe unless you go into the aiming down sights mode where your movement speed is reduced to a crawl and you can't see shit because the FOV is zoomed in

This is blatantly false, you can freely strafe or slide while shooting outside of ADS

>>This is supposed to be a fast-paced shooter, yet you effectively stand still while shooting.

Only if you're a scrub. Just look up any challenge mode video from a Japanese player and see how much cover they use


e5169c No.15189999

>>15184270

yea you are wrong

>>15184285

this guy is right because it wasn't until resident evil 5 when you could actually side strafe albeit very slowly




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