/v/ - Video Games

I've speculated they would do a mid-gen "new" switch sort of like the 3DS. Maybe in a year or two. I'd also like to see a Switch revision with a smaller display and integrated controllers.

>>15183060

>Better materials are a given, make everything metal and glass.

Never ever. EVERY hardware revision has crap materials compared to the original because they always try to cut the price.

>>15183082

hilariously enough this

>>15183067

>7 switch iterations

>barely different to each other

>people eat it up

disgusting

>>15183082

How so? Every new 3DS is better than the previous.

I almost feel pity for those who bought it on launch, instead of the new XL with IPS screens of today.

PS: May this shit never happen.

>>15183089

>new XL with IPS screens of today.

You fucking faggot they haven't had IPS panels in circulation for ages. All new 3DS's made have TN panels top and bottom.

This OP gave me a fucking heart attack because I thought they were already releasing a revised Switch that can't be hacked by a paperclip. Also,

>no OLED version of Switch that would officially unseat the Vita from being the best portable

>no way to mod it either

The jews did this

Fuck your switch revision, nintendo needs to fix the fucking connectors on the joycons so they don't get dusty. Can't tell you how many fucking times I had to fucking qtip those little shits.

The HORI one fucking has a tab that slides out and closes when it isn't on the system why don't the genuine articles do?

>>15183151

I guess. 2DS's aren't 3DS's. Still though, I'm not buying one until we get the Switch XL or whatever the hell it will be called.

>>15183154

the Vita is a handheld

the Switch is a portable console

Build quality is irrelevant if people still rush to buy it and aren't rioting over how shit it is. Also aren't they already tweaking the designs to combat piracy? So they don't need a new version for a while or else they would hurt sales of the product they only released a year ago.

>>15183098

was the 3ds so popular that they just alternated parts between revisions without care to what ever's cheapest at the time? I can't really get mad since it's been years after the 3ds came out, but this does explain somewhat the poor build quality of the switch.

>>15183172

There are, like, 3 games worth of buying on the Switch, and some 3 more that are just ports (things like Skyrim).

Why would anyone have to pirate its games?

>>15183175

>turn down the 3DS's 3d slider

>handheld suddenly disappears because 2DSs aren't 3DSs apparently

>>15183158

I'm holding out too. Didn't get it at launch, so I might as well play the waiting game. Then again, they'll probably make it harder to hack.

>>15183163

But anon, that would ruin the normalfag's perception of technological devices as magical black boxes that just like, do stuff. And maybe that would make them want to learn how tech stuff work and get a PC and start pirating games. You're telling me you want people to be educated? What are you, an antisemite?!

>>15183207

>It's like being mad that they released a revision of the Wii that can't play gamecube games or connect to the internet.

Nigger the DSi was a fucking scam, kill yourself

>effectively a downgrade

in what way? The 3D is worthless and garbage and the price of the 2DS is lower and the processing power and whatnot should be the same

>>15183164

Stop trying to grammar natsoc, its both. What do you think PSP stands for?

>>15183207

>downgrade

The 3D feature is cancer for my eyes, and it's cheaper. That's not a downgrade, that's an improvement for me.

>The point is, why would anyone buy a 2DS if they have a 3DS?

Because they have relatives or friends they want to play with, and don't care for the 3D feature?

>>15183248

>DSi

I fell for the meme, hoping for a virtual console thing on it. Forgive me, I was an ignorant buyfag.

They could probably make a smaller or bigger version and fix the issue with the dock scratching the screen. They definitely won't use better quality materials since that would be against their interest in making low cost, high profit consoles.

>>15183082

In addition to that, Ninty has absolutely terrible quality control.

Old, New, XL, it doesn't matter, every 3DS I have encountered has different feeling buttons, the hinge wobbles in different places, and the screen displays different colours. What's worse is that the top and bottom screens are never calibrated to match either.

Try displaying a white image top and bottom in a dark room and you'll see what I mean.

>>15183309

This. I've had every 3DS model and I was disappointed with the quality of all of them

>3DS

Loose hinges

>3DS XL

The circlepad got harder and harder to move until the point it became impossible to push it up. Forcing me to get a nu3DS

>Nu3DS XL

The screen will sometimes flicker between two different brightness levels. Which is really annoying for bright and colorful games like Animal Crossing where it's extremely noticeable.

In the revised version (should we get one) they need to decide between making this a handheld or a console.

>>15183336

>circlepad

Mine literally melted off and crumbled after not using the thing for a month. Ended up replacing the nub with something I got off of ebay which ended up being better quality.

>>15183360

It's a gimped piece of shit. The dock fucks the screen and the battery life is ass.

>>15183368

Thats your problem for buying a piece of shit system.

>>15183321

The DSi is a literal equivalent to the hypothetical that he made up

>>15183368

>The dock fucks the screen

Had one since launch. Never had that issue, that issue is either because of a defective dock or user error.

>Battery life is ass

And if they did a hardware revision based on the Tegra X2 they could double the battery life because of the X2 having better power consumption.

>>15183396

The wii mini removed internet features cause Nintendo took down Nintendo Wifi and at the same time were entering the Chinese market. They wanted something even cheaper to get that funny money from China.

>>15183425

My whole point was that inferior revisions are a silly thing to complain about. And technically it was sold worldwide though.

>>15183359

The dock scratches the screen if you put the Switch in back to front. Still Nintendo's fault for not accounting for retards.

>>15183489

Meant to reply to >>15183394

>>15183489

>retards

Or children. You know, Nintendo's main target demographic.

>>15183394

The battery life would still be shit even doubled.

>>15183489

What do you mean by "put the Switch in back to front"?

>>15183336

>Nu3DS XL

>The screen will sometimes flicker between two different brightness levels.

This is with power saver and ambient light sensor disabled? Otherwise that's sound pretty fucking broken, did you return it?

>>15183575

More like 4-6 but yes. Anything less than a weekend's worth away from power outlets is shit.

>>15183542

With the back where the front should be.

>>15183580

Very few electronics can manage that kind of battery life without either being used as minimally as possible or incurring a significant weight increase because of slapping a larger battery into it.

>>15183585

If that's how people were scratching the screen then they don't deserve electronics. Glad that's cleared up.

>>15183607

They used to. Nowadays quality is shit though.

>>15183102

I have a new 3ds with IPS on both

>>15183701

Those electronics were also much simpler and didn't require as much power, sadly battery technology hasn't advanced as fast as GPUs and CPUs.

>>15183309

>What's worse is that the top and bottom screens are never calibrated to match either.

>Try displaying a white image top and bottom in a dark room and you'll see what I mean.

They're two different screen types, you autist.

>>15183489

It may be retarded, but the problem could be almost completely eliminated by having an asymmetrical dock. They wouldn't even have to abandon their ugly ass sleek rectangle, just make the back panel as long as the Switch with joycons attached. Not only would it make the dock idiot-proof, it would give the dock some much needed structure, since the thing is just a plastic shell halved and screwed together.

>>15183942

>sadly battery technology hasn't advanced as fast as GPUs and CPUs

this unfortunately.

2-4 hours for a portable console is unacceptable.

>>15183060

>Nintendo would shit on its userbase if they powered it up

Didn't stop Sony or Microsoft.

>>15183060

>About time already, no?

No. Fuck off, retard.

>>15184153

The Switch really isn't a proper portable.

>>15184183

Which makes me wonder why so many people respond to the desire for a non-portable Switch with higher end parts with "That defeats the purpose". Maybe there's people who want to play Switch games, but rarely use the portable mode and would rather have better framerates.

>>15184153

Unfortunately all the promising battery tech is still very early in testing phases and will have to go through years and years of testing before it's ready because no one wants to accidentally create a bomb.

>>15184183

It's a lot better than the WiiU's half-assed attempt of using a 480p fisher price looking thing that only functions a maximum of 25 feet away from the console and only on a select number of games. At least I can pull out a Switch in the middle of the woods and know it'll work.

>>15184200

It's not that they're saying there isn't appeal to a non-portable box that plays Switch games. They're simply pointing out that Nintendo has sold so many Switches based solely on the hybrid gimmick that there's no way it's going to happen.

>>15184153

>not having USB battery packs and car adapters

I took it to a cabin in the mountains on a trip and never ran out of juice, you just have to not be a nigger when it comes to logistics. I'll never understand "muh battery life", USB bricks are so much fucking better than lugging tons of AAs around used to be, seeing how you just recharge the fuckers whenever.

>>15184327

only reason id ever buy a 2ds again is because I could easily install a capture card into it and its hackable

>>15184209

But the WiiU's pad never pretended to be anything else but a wireless touchscreen controller. The Switch presents itself as a sort of halfhearted mobile-but-not-really hybrid. It would be a much better product if it just committed to one or the other. Hell it would be fine if they committed to both and made both a Switch console and Switch portable models that used the same architecture and could play the same software.

>>15184379

Yes, actually.

Just like with the Windows Phone + Windows Desktop proposal, they tried to merge mobile and desktop, handheld and console.

At first, this seems an incredibly good idea, but the technology isn't there yet, it's not even close to be there and now specially because of the end of "moore's law", this rests in an unknown and uncertain future.

End result: Windows self destructed and is now a pile of shit that is forcing itself onto people, while most want to remain using Windows 7.

The Switch survives mostly on the gimmick being acceptable and the fanbase being too much of bad consumers, who accept shit like toy construction standards - it's not very powerful as well, as we can see with Zelda, a game that relies on quasi-WiiU standards running like shit and having loading times closer to CD ones while using an SD Card.

Do people even understand that the Switch uses a fucking mobile GPU that was literally abandoned by everyone in the industry due to how shitty it was? Or do people know that the thing is from years ago?

Hell, nVidia might have massive power on its side, but, just like with Intel, it ran out of steam due to its strategy of relying on moore's law and going big every time. Now that the race came to a finish, AMD will best them with power efficiency (something not considered when creating a "handheld"? Fucking morons), and better technology, such as HBM memory use, better core multi threading, better CPU+GPU integration, better fucking APIs (in the case of consoles, this might not be so much of a huge factor, as they have core access to hardware, but things like Vulkan would standardize the process, making it cheaper and easier for third parties to port stuff), and finally: IT'S FUCKING CHEAPER. They could have made a fucking Glass screen for the console, or whatever else.

Nintendo is willingly transforming itself into a Hasbro or Mattel piece of shit.

>the pictures included in that pic

also if you take away switch games and some of the hyperbole that's just the wii u but with switch games

>>15183265

Whoa is that text from TWEWY?

>>15184490

You seem to be under the impression that anybody buying Nintendo honestly gives a shit about how powerful the console is, and that being considerably cheaper in price than the options of the other two major players isn't an attractive tagline. Hell, Switch is only just recently being matched in price by deprecated Xbone models. Better parts to appease graphics and power whores = higher prices and alienated normalfags who don't need or care about that power.

It also does support Vulkan, it's even cited on Wikipedia as being a supported platform alongside OpenGL.

Japanese developers are also testing the waters with the Switch (after Nintendo got a bad reputation for their retarded development costs during the 3DS days) with all this amount of ports/multiplats, but so far it seems to be tanking on several levels (Nippon Ichi Software games & Sega's Shining Resonance selling poorly in Japan, Yakuza Studios refusing to develop/port because "the audience isnt there", etc).

I suppose it's still worth to check how things will be in 2 years.

>>15183154

>>no OLED version of Switch that would officially unseat the Vita from being the best portable

It's going to be really hard for the Switch to ever unseat the Vita from that position tbh, considering the Vita has its PS1, PSP and its own pretty good library to back itself up. It's the 10/10 handheld (especially hacked, although it still need a few fixes there and here) if you're into old-school vidya

>>15184636

The Switch is more expensive than a PS4. Personally I don't get it, the NSW library consists of indie shit and bad ports.

>>15184925

No it's not gonna kill Nintendo because like >>15184490 said, it will survive from its fanbase being terrible consumers (not much different from the average consumer in Sony on that part), and relying on brand name and nostalgia alone.

>>15185046

Is marxist cinematic garbage games now?

>>15184925

>>15185046

>>15185070

Did you just get banned from cuckchan and decided to come here?

>>15184925

>>15185028

>>15185046

>pretty much every release they put out for the Switch is the best selling in that series of all time

>b-but it's not doing well!

Fucking thing is selling at Wii rates. It's gonna slow down, obviously, probably has already, but it's doing well for itself.

>>15185046

The PS4 took too long to get a wide appeal in Japan, until like 2017 when FF15, MHW and EDF5 got released, alongside with SoJ sabotaging the Vita exclusives to be ported on PS4 in order to help the hardware sales. The PS4 only managed very recently to outsell the Vita there.

Switch is obviously like hotcakes, anyone who denies that is an idiot. Discussing about its quality and library is another matter.

>>15185087

*obviously selling like hotcakes

oops

god i want to fuck midna

>about time

>already

The console released 1 year and some months on top ago. It's not gonna happen for the next year. It'll probably happen 2 and a half years in, maybe 3.

>>15183060

I'd really like a new Switch with better battery life and larger joycons, but I see a lot of potential in the dock:

>padding

>the addition of a secondary GPU

>built-in storage and a method of rapidly transferring files between the Switch and dock

So the first one is obvious, but I haven't really seen the other two ideas anywhere but I would think that they could be possible with some architectural changes. External GPUs already exist, but I suppose that using both GPUs at the same time would require some hybrid SLI/PCIe connector. The storage part is for convenience. Remember those little cases for your GameBoy or DS that would have all your games in it? It would be this, but digitally. You could select what games you would want to take with you while the Switch is docked and transfer them over. It would also be convenient if the dock could operate independently of the Switch so you could, let's say, use the Switch or the mobile phone app to purchase a game and download it directly on the dock so when you return home, you have a new game to play.

>>15183060

I doubt that it's ever going to happen. Nintendo never had a hardware revision for their main consoles afaik. Sure the NES and the SNES had regional differences, but that was, because of marketing reasons and cultural differences I assume.

>HD space

Even if there's gonna be a "Switch 2.0" they're definitely not going to add more space since you can just use sd cards and a 128GB card is like 20 bux or something.

>Things seems to be heating up lately.

Haha

>>15183060

Apparently their game cartridges were supposed to have more memory to support larger games, but apparently they screwed up and the entire thing had to be redone. Its supposed to come out next year, which is hopefully when we can start seeing more third party support

>>15183277

>removing a feature is an improvement

I don't see how you can say that's an improvement.

>>15183277

Am I the only one who played with the 3DS exclusively in 3D? Shit was cool as fuck.

>>15186091

>3d shantae titties

>>15186091

3D barely had any effect for me, so I didn't use it much.

>>15184920

Sony's own website lists the floor-model PS4 at $299 and this is after the $100 launch price cut, Switch is not more expensive. I was however wrong that only floor-model Xbones were beginning to match Switch's price-point. https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/ps4/systems/

>>15189459

Nintendo Switch is €329 where I live but I have no idea what the MSRP is.

>>15183060

New hardware iterations is why I don't purchase Nintendo products anymore.

>have to decide on faster/assured piracy now or better hardware later on

Fucking Nintendo.

>>15189523

I'd gift it.

>>15189754

Msrp is 299 freedom bucks

>>15190966

This has been done since the age of PS1 with no problems whatsoever.

>>15190125

Just get both.

>>15199049

>buying the same console twice

I'd rather not.

>>15183060

I don't know man, I own a switch and its pretty damn durable. I once threw the controllers straight at the wall full force by accident (hurrr no wrist straps attached) and they were completely fine, no dents or scratches or cracks or anything.

Inevitably they will iterate on the Switch, but this first one is still pretty damn good.

>>15183098

You know for all her bitching about QC on Nintendo products, she does a great job in making sure Nintendo does nothing to fix their QC since there are people like her that keep on buying the shit, not matter what.

>>15201447

>>15201447

>Tegra X2

Though AMD ruled the console market, since they supplied the chips for all 3 major consoles.

>>15184490

>The Switch survives mostly on the gimmick being acceptable and the fanbase being too much of bad consumers, who accept shit like toy construction standards

>teh switch is a toy XD

Also you talk like someone who has no idea what they're talking about. The Tegra chip isn't a mobile GPU it's a system on a chip and it is still being produced for new devices. It is in no way shape or form abandoned.

>and better technology, such as HBM memory use

HBM memory is much more expensive to produce than the mobile DDR4 memory that the Tegra chip uses.

>better core multi threading

>multi-threading mattering in a video game console

You're a fucking idiot who thinks they're smart. Go back to cuckchan /g/ with this shit.

>>15201447

>already hardware dense, can't fit anymore into it.

I dunno', they could just make the thing a little bit larger. The fact that it's portable is a fucking gimmick.

>>15183186

The only games worth playing are BoTW, Odyssey and Animal Crossing whenever it inevitably gets released. Piracy isn't a big issue.

>>15184153

>took my Switch with me on a 14 hour flight

>had two power banks that a "trustworthy" site said would be perfect

>neither power banks worked

>could charge my phone

>spent an hour or two playing

>battery 30%

>close

>have to watch TV for the rest of the flight.

I should have just taken my 3DS…

>>15183336

nu3DS XL has a setting that automatically adjusts brightness.

>>15203065

Not enough current and/or voltage probably. Bet they work fine to trickle charge if the Switch is turned off, but they can't keep up if the thing is turned on.

What is with /v/'s obsession with the new switch revision if there is ever gonna be one…? The ps4 didnt have their until almost 3 years later.. so we wont see one until 2020 and thats being reasonable.. but I seen these threads since 2017/2018..

>>15203158

there's already been a revision.

>>15183060

A joycon that can recharge buy plugging into the usb port would be nice.

>>15186081

The 2DS XL's top screen doesn't have that top heavy feel due to the lack of 3D. Seems like an improvement to me.

>>15203164

No there hasn't. There have been models released with the Tegra exploit patched out but that's only changing the bootrom, not any hardware.

>>15203246

This isn't wholly correct. Some Switch games already have it so that they have compressed files on the cart and extracts those files as a partial install onto your system memory/micro SD card. Or worse, they could do the shitty L.A. Noire thing where you have to download the other half of the game before playing. Maybe this will be the debut of 32GB carts, but I'm not planning on it.

>>15201500

>I don't know shit and bought a Switch

Every time.

>>15203589

>not buying the only good console this generation

>>15210066

I actually wouldn't mind a Switch Micro that doesn't have detachable joycons, but the demographic is too small. They could do a stationary-only system and sell it for 75% of the price when the sales of the current version start to slump.

>>15210083

From the polling they did, the majority of the userbase utilizes it in both modes, so selling it under one or the other doesn't seem too attractive. The more attractive model, however, would be portable-only, that was more popular than TV-only.

>>15210087

Yeah, but this isn't about their current userbase, it's about expanding the userbase with new players by offering an ultra-cheap alternative that requires minimal change to the system. A Vita-sized, portable only system would probably be about as expensive as the current Switch.

>>15210111

I think that the tagline of "Play anywhere, anytime" would get lost if they did that, to be fair. Doesn't mean that they won't do it, but it doesn't seem likely. The handheld-only model, however, if they could sell it for cheaper somehow, some anons suggested using the Tegra X2, god knows, there would probably be a lot of attention in Japan in China for that.

>>15183060

Why? They've shown their target audience is willing to put up with cheaper.

Their adult fans don't take the thing outside so it has less wear-and-tear.

If the bratty kids of middle class families break it, they buy them another one.

Only one who loses out is lower class kids who get their Switch jacked by Jamal.

They can make money if they sold another one, but they still want to differentiate themselves from Sony and Microsoft who (as far as most adults buying the console for kids are concerned) is cheaper and doesn't demand an upgrade a few months later.

It's the same reason their hardware is underpowered. They can sell a cheaper made game for the same money as other console and PC titles.

While the Switch costs less than other consoles, I'm sure Nintendo still turn a profit on it.

Then again, they did 100 3DS consoles (partly due to selling a dozen different skins, partly due to getting sued and having to make the 2DS and the western sized ones).

If they do make anything, I can see them making larger Joycons for western hands (plus it fixes that exploit of shorting one of them to jail-break it). If they make another Switch, it'll just be a perma-docked/no hand held version. The hardware won't be better, but it might be cheaper than a normal switch (because even though the current switch should be cheaper over time, Nintendo will keep the price of it as close to it's original RRP as it can).

They may make a cover or case for when you take the switch into handheld mode- after a dozen third parties turn a profit with theirs.

>>15210066

Agree with everything except for the UI. DO NOT copy the PS VIta UI. It was trash garbage. If anything they need to go back to the PSP or PS3 UI, now that was a good fucking UI.

>>15210111

I don't think that'd be a good idea because a lot of the games on the Switch don't scale for the small screen size and the UI becomes barely legible. If you introduced an even smaller Switch this problem would become a crisis.

>>15183098

>3DPD

>Giving opinions

This post is pure cancer

>>15219780

The gamecube was held up by the first-party exclusives and a handful of other exclusive titles, same as any Nintendo console. You only get a Nintendo console if you want to play Nintendo games, don't pretend otherwise, but I have to say I liked the minidiscs in concept and there was potential for cart addons and backwards compat that was sadly missed.

>>15183060

>he wants another version of the switch and is actively supporting mid generation console releases

You are the cancer that plagues this world

>>15183154

>oled

Dogshit, I want my systems to last.

>>15183368

>fucks the screen

Nope. Not unless you cram it in against the dock. Superior docks are open anyway.

>>15183524

>5-6 hours is shit compared to 2.5-3

>>15183580

So literally nothing then? Phones cannot do that and no handheld can do that. My Vita sure as fuck can't do that.

>>15183942

wish we had fuel cells instead of batteries desu

>>15184589

>that Mario Sunshine using the Odyssey look

I vomited a little

>>15219304

I agree on the XMB menu from the PSP/PS3 being better in presentation, although the Vita UI wasnt that bad, as I actually liked the multi-tasking and the overall quickness.

Definitively better than the fucking PS4 UI that lock you out of nearly everything if you dont have an Internet connection (such as manuals, progress, etc) and that "last used order" list of everything

>>15183060

I'll humour you, there's a product with the TX2 in it called magic leap it's mixed reality and it showcases a bit of a graphical boost this is prime candidate for the switch pro

Source https://www.tweaktown.com/news/62492/magic-leap-one-powered-nvidia-tegra-x2-ships-summer/index.html