ec1f6a No.15176435
>get hyped for new mmo.
>buy game.
>be active user.
>hang around for years.
>watch people come and go.
>watch the 'community' devolve into just a bunch of man children..
>watch as the company just throws caring out the window for more $.
>begin to hate the company.
>begin to hate the game.
>play because you've hung around this long. So why not hang till it shuts down.
>watch noobs come and go.
>watch the player count drop as time goes on.
>watch better mmos get released over the years.
>people still claim it's the 'best mmo' even though it's out of date and shit.
How is this shit still called the "best" out there? Is everyone blind by nostalgia or someshit? Or is everyone hanging around just a bunch of 12 year old brats?
a6fb74 No.15176440
>>15176435
It was the peak, it's not the best currently, but nothing comes close to its golden age either.
5bd48a No.15176449
>>15176435
it wasn't even good when it first came out. I also like how current year WoWaddicts claim that it used to be a hardcore MMO. Even on launch it was known as the baby of MMOs available at the time.
9a4071 No.15176452
>>15176435
>people still claim
who?
i had fun with wow like plenty of people, i started 3months b4 TBC and quit 3 months into Wotlk. those to me where it's golden years.
some people say best and mean most popular.
those are not the same thing tho. You should know this anon.
82cc44 No.15176456
WoW is something like 14 years old at the moment and as a result it has shitload of content. I stopped playing early Cataclysm so I don't really know how it is now, maybe they did a Cataclysm style expansion again and redid content instead of making new ones. But still, even when I played the game had more content than all other MMOs, that alone made it better
Also the core of the game is so good unless it's changed completely it's still a good game anyway
5bd48a No.15176459
>>15176454
>>15176450
It's obvious WoW was your first MMO, stay mad WoWbabies.
62ab4c No.15176461
>people admit to playing WOW
How embarrassing.
a6fb74 No.15176462
5bd48a No.15176463
>>15176461
They seem rather proud of it too
ec1f6a No.15176467
>>15176463
I'm more ashamed of it, really.
856164 No.15176471
ad3f8a No.15176492
good a wow thread
BFA is absolute fucking shit and the pre-patch ruined the game
c693fe No.15176495
>>15176463
More like I pity these people with poor impulse control who do not understand modern Blizzard game design.
d8887d No.15176496
I remember hating WoW even when it came out.
Can anybody tell me what they saw in it? A lot of the problems people give were problems that existed 14 years ago as well.
ad3f8a No.15176500
it peaked with WOTLK
arguably WOTLK was the start of casualization with dungeon finder
but it really shit on the game with raid finder
the game was still enjoyable gameplaywise until WoD, when they went full retard with pruning and changed the fast paced high mobility gameplay into boring shit so the soccer moms would be able to play the game
Legion made it even worse, and now with the pre-patch of BFA the game has gone to absolute shit
e8ec68 No.15176501
9a4071 No.15176504
dcc95d No.15176510
>>15176492
>implying wow hasnt been shit for like four expansions now
c52d16 No.15176514
>>15176500
>it peaked with WOTLK
I agree with this but when I return to it I really miss transmog and worgens/goblins. I wish there was a mix of Cata and Wotlk
704c27 No.15176515
>>15176471
RuneScape was genuinely a great MMO and people always overlook it because of its visuals
a6fb74 No.15176523
>>15176515
>people always overlook it because of its visuals
Runescape was insanely popular during its own peak, what are you on about?
704c27 No.15176560
>>15176523
I wasn't implying it was never popular
75ca5a No.15176563
>>15176435
>>get hyped for new mmo.
this is where you should have killed yourself
0c5749 No.15176574
>>15176435
The first bit where the community devolves is usually inevitable, after a while the sane people move on with some late joiners.
But what they devolve into is determined by the game.
by introducing queues and auto-join shit they killed the need to party up, and thus can't strategize because when you spawn in an instance the first instinct is to charge through, and matchmaking has always been crap as a concept because of the sheer randomness.
A game still needs excuses to socialize, and through that you can get a band together. Every class had reason to be invited to a group in WoW, and now they're all essentially the same. Warlocks could pull and bait excellently and had a few spells that summoned extremely powerful demons to use during a boss fight, or just for fun when you spawn one in a newbie area, chug an invisibility potion or leg it and watched the salt when it went unbound and started attacking everyone randomly only to eventually get your ass kicked by the local newbie helper guild an hour later and could also summon party members from towns with the help of 2 others, making him excellent for speeding up resurrections. Hunters were beefier and had loads of crowd control, Mages could port everyone back to town, or fuck off back to town to get supplies for the ammo classes or pick up potions after a failed run and get slingshotted by a Warlock when ready and had loads of skills that distributed good conjured food before a boss. Paladins were great at tanking AND healing during their tanking job if things got really bad, Warriors cut through mobs and adds like butter, etc etc.
After this Wild West period when everyone found the use for these classes, the devs started taking advice from the players. They apparently had no idea what they were doing to the point of letting the players "improve" the game, but they made the mistake of contacting top PvP Arena dwellers, when the meat of the game was on the field and not in the ring. These dumb assholes only thought about queuing and getting to the next match. So now we don't need to talk or negotiate for groups in an already casual game.
All of the classes had unique shit, but most of their stuff and their fun stuff like the warlock's Infernal summoning and the Life Drain tweaks that allowed you to Life Drain entire groups as a last ditch survival tech and other such things Only ever played a Warlock but even a glance at the other classes showed loads of cool shit everyone needed. Warlock used to be the best salt miner class when you were bored and now every class is either Tank, DPS, or Healing.
The new classes starting with Pandaria added no out of combat bonuses and those were ironed out of other classes, either functionally or made obsolete and unneeded. Mages could still conjure food for example, but food became fucking worthless because bonuses got nerfed all over because of how stats got changed, it's now basically just health regen, and Warlock's portal now had no fucking use because instances are queued and auto-teleporting making the portal unessesary.
You can't even troll with the Infernal summon anymore, now he's just a 30 second add on summon. Can't get a group together anyway, so they changed it from a summon you needed a group to use to a summon that disappears after 30 seconds because people got salty in towns, despite player conflict being one of the HIGH POINTS of an MMO, now no one wants to conflict, no one can be a villain to band together against and track down and everyone's in a fucking dumbed down theme park. And it started as early as when people left.
I played Project Gorgon a while back and despite that alpha ass MMO was unfinished as fuck it still had reasons to party up. Nothing was formal, Guilds were even in beta, dungeons are a clusterfuck, there's clear reasons to NOT invest your time in certain skillsets, some magic needs items, you could get cursed permanantly and turned into a deer with a gimped moveset you need to level up until you beat bosses and some places were spoken in hushed tones and outright avoided because of this shit. And despite the fact that PvP wasn't implemented, the whole animal curse system created this little Anti-Farm Animal movement who campaigned to acquire expensive uncurse potions for players who got tricked into farm animal curses.
Hell you could play as a psychic necromancy spider if you wanted.
It was the most fun i've had in an MMO in recent history. It was untouched, people trolled, people exploited glitches to walk outside the map in order to troll people with music, you had to trade with others for shit you needed, you HAD to see people. and you had friends.
a6fb74 No.15176641
http://archive.is/n8uER
They are getting desperate.
0c5749 No.15176663
>>15176641
It's what they get for listining to a bunch of no-lifer PvP fags.
d4eb87 No.15176666
>>15176496
It was a crack addiction that was casualized enough to attract tons of normalfags
It was awful back then and it's awful right now but now these crack addicts are also fueled by nostalgia
09e71e No.15176667
ec1f6a No.15176669
>>15176641
They haven't announced their sub count since WoD and they've been making the game more casual and mobile gamer friendly. Of course they are getting desperate, you don't add in something like level boosts and garrisons unless you are just trying to milk the game for all it's worth until it's shut down due to low active player pop.
9d0b93 No.15176682
>>15176495
You feel pity I feel confusion.
How are nu-blizzdrones eating up overwatch at all ? How can something so bad pass as a successful product >?
4e4fb8 No.15176684
>>15176669
I really can't wait to see WoW finally shut down. It'll happen in our lifetimes.
c693fe No.15176702
>>15176682
Addictive game design, massive hype train with their marketing department, market and demographic research on long-term engagement with an overall progression system that feels like a fucking second job, and having a big company that has brands recognized all over with a legion of fucking Blizzdrones. It was fucking full proof, but for WoW they already killed all the RPG-parts, gutted and killed while padding everything out with more epeen bullshit purple-colored jpegs, that's all WoW has, no fucking kid will play that game with a bunch of middleage faggots and dykes, it's just a bunch of old retards who know they only enjoy the game with other people and they can't stop being addicted to a broken one-way theme park game or because they "Invested" too much time to a game that forces you to play it all the time.
f1f63f No.15176766
>>15176497
>implying current WoW isn't gachashit
856164 No.15176767
>>15176523
>mmo in a tv show
>its ALWAYS based on WoW and never runescape
god this pissed me off
aad68c No.15176821
>>15176496
A lot of people including me started it because we loved the RTS series and just wanted more Warcraft.
Then the popularity spiralled out of control and the game went to complete dogshit by the end of the second expansion.
It never recovered and is basically a festering corpse at this point.
I don't know about it being a "hardcore MMO" or anything like that, but the core game was fun and forced you to cooperate and socialize with people.
For what it was back then, it was good.
df9e3c No.15176829
>>15176500
>>it peaked with WOTLK
>Shipped with a recycled raid and two 1-boss raids
>Normalized level boosts with DKs starting at level 50
>Made DKs stupidly over-powered to sell the expansion over class balance
>Locked a raid behind a shit pseudo-battleground PVP zone with vehicle combat
>Made raids so easy PUGs with lukewarm IQs could clear current content
>Started the trend of giant raid-wide buffs instead of naturally letting gear make raids easier week over week for guilds
>Tier gear from spamming brain-dead easy heroics
>Began optional difficulties which would lead to huge ilvl jumps in content
>Last but not least: LF-fucking-G
>Faggots ignore all this because MUH ULDUAR
c91682 No.15176900
>>15176500
>it peaked with WOTLK
glow-in-the-dark-tier wrathbabby faggot
aad68c No.15176970
>>15176900
He probably means that the number of players peaked with Wrath.
50110f No.15176974
>actually wanted to start MMOs with FFXI
>friends go "nah dude just play WoW lmao"
WoW was okay (it was Vanilla at the time) but as a result, to this day I haven't played FFXI. FFXIV itself seems to have become a no fun build allowed streamlined piece of trash.
85878f No.15176985
>>15176435
>watch better mmos get released over the years
which ones?
ff6c10 No.15176993
>>15176985
Elder Scrolls online
5bd48a No.15177003
>>15176767
every anime i've seen seem to base it off older MMOs like Ultima, Ragnarok or Lineage.
856164 No.15177012
>>15177003
im not including weeb shit
5bd48a No.15177060
>>15177012
what the fuck kinda tv shows have you been watching that are based on mmos?
856164 No.15177072
>>15177060
I didn't say the show was based on mmos, I said the mmo in the show is based on WoW.
ec1f6a No.15177088
>>15177072
you mean shows like family guy and/or the big bang that have just "shoutouts" and aren't based around mmos?
856164 No.15177127
ccf728 No.15177649
>tfw WOW was an MMO and not an actual game
imagine if WOW was a singleplayer rpg like Morrowind, KOTOR, etc. It could have been amazing.
75ca5a No.15177671
>>15177649
all bethesda games are single-player mmos though.
fec1e3 No.15177734
>>15176500
Legion was actually a breath of fresh air, the last bit of life this MMO will ever get if what we know about BFA is anything to go by. Maybe I just saw it through rose-colored glasses as I hadn't played since early cata which was awful in comparison.
7092e5 No.15177741
>>15177728
>On top of that they're fucking removing class sets of armor for this expansion,
are you serious nigga? If so I'm refunding BFA right now, since I don't use the 110 leveler because I always. Unique armor sets for each class was the only fun part of that entire game.
7092e5 No.15177743
>>15177741
since I didn't use the 110 leveler anyways because I wanted to keep the option to refund just in case.
fec1e3 No.15177747
>>15177741
Yeah, only one set of plate, cloth, leather, and mail. I just don't understand why they would release an expansion that is a blatant 'fuck you' to pretty much anyone that still enjoys the game. Are they trying to completely sink themselves?
7092e5 No.15177751
>>15177747
top wew. Yup just saw it. Thanks for saving me 50 bucks anon, time to refund.
5a8d38 No.15177760
a5f0b2 No.15177765
>>15176435
>How is this shit still called the "best" out there?
it sold so much that it turned blizzard into the overbloated behemoth of company that it is today
as a consumer product, WoW was as succesful as CoD
efac1d No.15177780
>>15177743
>>15177741
>unique armor sets
>the only fun part of the game
Really, that's what kept you buying every expansion? That's what kept you subbed monthly?
WoW is shit, but good lord, what the fuck is wrong with you if unique looking armor is enough to keep you hooked?
7092e5 No.15177786
>>15177780
Who wants to go through all the raiding work if your armor reward looks like garbage?
efac1d No.15177797
>>15177786
Why go through raiding at all if it sucks to begin with? Gameplay is its own reward, and if the gameplay sucks, don't fucking pay for the game.
7092e5 No.15177802
>>15177797
Ergo why I'm refunding. Unique armor sets was 3/4 of the fun.
dcc95d No.15177861
>>15177802
>Unique armor sets was 3/4 of the fun.
>tfw the people who played past cata played because they liked to play barbie dress up with their character
>tfw they destroyed a fun world in vanilla/tbc for fucking barbie play house players
God fucking damnit
6eb0b8 No.15177872
>>15176829
>shipped with two 1-boss raids
Sarth3D was a great fight.
>lvl boost
Dumbest shit. Make a better game instead.
>made DKs stupidly over-powered
DKs could become completely unhittable by raid bosses before the end of the first raid tier of wotlk. DKs were like playing Final Fantasy Tactics and getting Cid on your team.
>vehicle combat
Cancer. None of the vehicle stuff that was put in the game in wotlk and cata was interesting or fun in any way, shape or form.
>raids so easy
Naxx was a joke, ToC and ICC normals were a joke. Ulduar was not. Even on normal that place was pretty rough.
>raid wide buffs
Muh accessibility! I pay 15$ a month so I'm entitled to experience everything the game has to offer, even if I only play 5 hours a month.
>tier gear from heroics/ilvl jump
ToC was a mid-expansion gear reset because Ulduar was too hard.
>LFG
The day that tool came was the day WoW drew its last breath. Everything after that was just an undead aberration.
The only reason WotLK wasn't the worst expansion in WoW's history is because it was followed by Cataclysm, which was so god damn bad it managed to make WotLK look acceptable.
7092e5 No.15177886
>>15177861
Well, support their decision then. This is the expansion where they're removing unique armor sets, pay on up and show them they're going in the right direction. For my part I liked those armor sets and so will be sitting this one out.
dcc95d No.15177898
>>15177886
If that's the only problem you have with the current state of the game then you're fucking retarded.
eed54b No.15177924
>>15176435
WoW is pretty much a major example in game developing where the devs don't advance or very few expanding the current stuff instead they add new stuff with that creates more problem.
9a86f2 No.15178020
>>15177728
>certain specs are unplayable
It sounds like they made the game more like it was in vanilla.
ad3f8a No.15178067
>>15176900
Been playing since vanilla
WOTLK was broken but still fun gameplay wise
WOTLK was the beginning of casualization, but the pve experience peaked with ulduar, and icecrown was fine. The game was still worth subbing in wotlk.
You sound like a person who didn't progress in raiding so you couldn't see content.
ad3f8a No.15178073
>>15177734
>skinner's box AP grinding
>only 3 tiers of content like wod
>gameplay is barebones and the artifact was a huge band-aid, now with artifact gone the gameplay is stale and basic, and even more boring with cooldowns on the GCD
At this point you're better off playing FFIXV, even with its 2.5 boring as fuck global cooldown, at least the rotation has buttons off it and more buttons than 4 main attacks
dcc95d No.15178075
>>15178067
My only problem with Wrath was that you could fly 100km above all the zones, which is what everyone did, so the zones all felt empty past the original expansion release rush.
dcc95d No.15178109
>>15178075
I mean my biggest problem, there were many problems with WOTLK including LFG.
ad3f8a No.15178145
>>15178075
Pros of WOTLK:
>Ulduar
>mvsc2 levels of fun broken pvp in arena
>good armor design (Merciless Glad, Vengeful Glad, etc)
>Icecrown was enjoyable
>gdkp runs
>fun trinkets
>lots of content
Cons of WOTLK:
<LFG
<empty zones after leveling
<Naxx was a rehash and it was easy
<The underground hub did not make it into the game
<Casuals invaded the game in this expansion
anything else?
dcc95d No.15178152
>>15178145
WOTLK had one benefit no one mentions: it was the last time it ever acknowledged players for being better than each other. Plagued/Black Proto Drake were awarded for doing the achivements in WOTLK naxx and closed itself off after three months. So the people that got the mounts were badass. I myself fell short on only one achievement for the 10 man naxx achievement (fucking safety dance REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE).
They never implemented this again because of bitchmade niggas crying.
13999e No.15178166
>>15176461
>being a newfag and proud
If you ignore WOW, you ignore the reason why pc gaming didnt die in the ps2 era
9a86f2 No.15178171
>>15178166
>implying it shouldn't have fucking died
Video games should be made by dedicated enthusiasts, not faggot californians.
bba39d No.15178179
>>15177060
I always feel ashamed cringe seeing that weeb shit cosplaying a natsoc.
aad68c No.15178209
>>15178152
Getting that 10-man achievement was the peak of my raiding career.
I was in a small, somewhat casual guild, but there were about 12 of us who were really interested in trying to get it.
There was a bit of bitching about us not boosting everyone else, but it quickly calmed down.
Ulduar was amazing and the few of us got to Vezax (or whatever that giant fucker's name before the final boss is) on the first week.
Wiping on the damn mechanical gnome over and over again until we finally beat him was the absolute best part of it all.
Our 25-man raids were never as good, but I think the lads managed to train everyone to not stand in the fucking fire over time.
I quit before the tournament came out but returned around the middle of ICC for about a week and they had not only cleared it, but also had a second raid group going.
Then I finally stopped playing for good and never touched it again.
I really miss all the fun times I had in that guild.
5e6a55 No.15178219
>>15176435
Mmos are a fucking waste of time. It's good for teenagers and college students with a lot of time on their hands. Now that I've got a job, the last thing I want to do in the evening is spend time with a band of autists or sitting in the party finder for an hour just to have the group disband after 2 wipes.
dcc95d No.15178228
>>15178209
Another thing that makes me mad about WOTLK was that Azjol'Nerub, probably the zone I looked most forward to and was originally intended to be a giant zone underneath northrend, was reduced to two five mans. There's a shit ton of unfinished assets and a giant zone in the game files but only the two five mans made the cut. So sad. Azjol'Nerub needs a proper retreading.
85878f No.15178242
>>15178219
fuck off normalfag
5e6a55 No.15178257
>>15178242
Hey, it's really really important to grind hours upon hourse playing with the shittiest people on the internet only to get a piece of gear that has a higher number on it instead of playing actual games with actual gameplay and characters and stories and worlds.
743f80 No.15178270
>>15177872
>The only reason WotLK wasn't the worst expansion in WoW's history is because it was followed by Cataclysm, which was so god damn bad it managed to make WotLK look acceptable.
You probably haven't saw it with your own eyes, but Gaylords of Draenor managed to make Cataclysm look less shitty.
5bd48a No.15179178
>All these people speaking fondly about WoW.
It's like im at halfchan again.
dcc95d No.15179228
>>15179178
we get it, now shoo shoo fag
5bd48a No.15179385
>>15179228
>shoo
sure is reddit in here
4f3a20 No.15179452
>taking pride in playing WoW
dcc95d No.15179472
>>15179385
>he says as he uses reaction images with UNIX timestamps from halfcuck
773400 No.15179502
>>15179472
>Not mashing in 142 plus a random shittering of numbers to piss off dumbansbasses like you
10ff5c No.15179508
>>15179228
HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY GAME, LEAVE MY THREAD ALONE!!
Pathetic
41d624 No.15179517
>>15178145
Don't forget really solid OST as a plus to it.
e5ed4a No.15179519
>2015-2017: Pandafag makes a WoW thread, board unanimously shits all over him and tell WoW players to fuck off.
>2018: Everyone lubing their asses for a Blizzard wallet rape, regardless of quality.
What the fuck happenned to this board??
9a86f2 No.15179531
>>15179519
Shills are active, the newest DLC for the game is coming out soon, and the whole vanilla shittery is coming to fruition.
dcc95d No.15179547
>>15179508
>is still a trumpcuck
It's pottery
cf5ed8 No.15179656
>better mmos getting released
There were better ones before and during WoW's heyday, but I call bullshit on there being better ones out now. Even Jap mmos are trash now.
>>15179519
I dunno, ask the people in the Courage the Cowardly Dog thread
9a4071 No.15180061
>>15176496
>i remember hating it
i hated how it looked at first as well. i didnt start playing until my current group/game died and i joined a rl friend on his server after he'd been trying to get me to play for a year or so. like all mmos the fun is the social aspect tied to what there is to do in the game - it's also why it's so addictive, because creative people all from roughly the same generation, who experienced the same cultural memes, grew up watching the same shows; all have compatible ways of thinking so humor translates well. However with generational crossovers, you lose that and it fractures who interacts well with whom.
>>15179519
>pandafags
most ppl cite wotlk as when they quit/it went to shit
>everyone lubing up
fondly remembering a community driven game isnt the same as preparing to give blizzard money again, grow up.
9b571a No.15180070
>>15180067
take your brainlet shit back to cuckchan you queer
10ff5c No.15180073
>>15180061
>pandafags
no, pandafag not plural. There was a specfic anon that'd post WoW threads with his shitty panda OC and furry panda porn for years before he stopped.
b9bf5d No.15180143
>>15180061
>most ppl cite wotlk as when they quit/it went to shit
as a matter of FACT, its cata which is when they went over the line, wotlk was the beginnin, but the content was still pretty solid
5ea611 No.15180199
>>15179519
Let me point out to the elephant in the room. Every anon here have half a mind to look forward to WoW classic, even though they know it is going to be utter shit because that "time" has passed and cannot be rewind and they do not want to get datamined by Blizz, still they cling onto that sliver of hope.
Yeah, I also want that time back. When shaman still have their bloody totems and every mob is a struggle. Yet that fucking Blizz datamining keep tugging in my mind "don't do it, anon".
It is like a devil raised your beloved dead family members and pets out of the grave, but not fully because it is a devil that did it, not God. So you have shambling living corpses of your family and pets in front of you all well dressed and cleaned up and look exactly like when they were alive except you know deep down that they are corpses and the devil wants your soul for it.
9a4071 No.15180210
>>15180143
i left a few months into wotlk after they kept fucking with pvp balance, and i was pretty well addicted, i can understand pvers staying longer, asmost of them dont care to challenge themselves in the same way.
>>15180073
oh, my bad.
also, what a faggot.
9a4071 No.15180243
>>15180199
>everyone anon here
if anyone ITT really wanted the vanilla fun back they would have tried a private server by now and realized the ugly truth. You can't go home again. Its fun but also a huge waste of time too. The idea of paying blizzard on top of that is beyond cucked.
if blizzard didnt have its head up it ass they'd just release starting with TBC and slow roll wotlk out and stop there, then try to actually flesh out the social and guild building parts of the game (multi-seat vehicles, player & guild housing, guild v guild bgs, spectating &/or betting on arena matches etc), you know actually try to take it in a new direction, but they don't have the skill for that.
5ea611 No.15180408
>>15180243
Some tried it, I also did. Then realised it is really not populated and fun unless you gathered people on some forum and make a guild together. Even then, bugs and incomplete features, lack of world PvP, many things deters them so, including the constant looming threat of it shutting down at any moment.
>Its fun but also a huge waste of time too.
You got that very right. We are all bunches of grognards now, not brats and college kids with free time any more.
a6fb74 No.15180442
>>15180199
Only problem I foresee is SJW Game Masters banning people for wrong think.
9a4071 No.15180460
>>15180408
hmm true. tho to be honest i liked the looming threat, it reminds me not to take it as serious as i did before, but that attitude also eats away at the community a bit too.
It is going to be interesting how it goes with people playing again with everything already known and discovered. I'd like to enjoy that 3 month honeymoon again but i'm not going to put myself in blizzards hands. But like many abuse victims, im sure people cant wait to give them another chance.
If it's really mythic behind camelot unchained im looking forward to that. and i guess i'll try out that project gorgon too.
These games are trying to replicate the fun of DnD among close friends. The company that finds the best way to replicate that is going to lead to success i feel. I dont want much, i just wanna make a sexy character, run some dungeons and shoot the shit with ppl as we outfit ourselves on our journey. it isnt much to ask.
971d45 No.15180763
>>15180460
>It is going to be interesting how it goes with people playing again with everything already known and discovered.
There is this official RO classic server (2-1 job only no 2-2 job old patch, no guild wars and stuffs) on this side of the hemisphere. They managed to simulate the early days quite okay, but then shit like micro-transaction and faggot GMs (lol random ban because a player beat me in a debate forum) happened and then it faded into obscurity. Old grognards still play it, but not the 'everyone now plays it' like back then kind of reception.
I am not sure if the same would happen with Brazzard.
24fec4 No.15180768
>>15176435
>begin to hate the company.
>begin to hate the game.
You got cynical. That is a big reason.
WoW used to be good, but now it's empty and they keep changing how the game is played every expansion.
ec1f6a No.15180812
>>15180768
>they keep changing how the game is played every expansion.
Yeah, so it caters more to those that don't want to put effort into things. Cause in modern WoW, everyone is a winner. ugh.
997901 No.15180927
>>15177872
>Cataclysm, which was so god damn bad it managed to make WotLK look acceptable
Imagine an obese 16-year-old terminal WoW addict and how shit his opinions and critical thinking must be to be living like that.
Imagine him dropping WoW cold and getting /fit/.
That was me. Cataclysm was so jarringly terrible it forced me to radically improve my life.
296099 No.15181151
To this day I miss wasting time in fucking Blade's Edge Mountains kill alliance faggots outside their shitty Ruuan Weald hub. It was no man's land, and boy fucking up dead zone hunters was a joy. Beyond those memories, wow has been lost in itself for a fucking decade and anyone who is even tempted to waste their money should be laughed at. Go play something else, the open world feel and the shitfuckery of killing randos with original ways is gone
ab1903 No.15181169
>>15179502
>random numbers
>when its clear its not
Sorry that you're trying too hard.
ab1903 No.15181175
>>15181169
>and changes ID
Shit you really trying hard to fit in are you?
13d04b No.15181321
>>15176435
>How is this shit still called the "best" out there? Is everyone blind by nostalgia or someshit? Or is everyone hanging around just a bunch of 12 year old brats?
The remaining playerbase is the subset of people from the original large population that have a predispodistion to a certain kind of psychological addiction that games with gear progression exploit.
Young players don't, and haven't played the game for many years now and the current playerbase is overwhelmingly people in the late twentys and thirtys that got hooked years ago and don't possess the ability to leave.
The developer creativity was exhausted come Wrath and the series of continually disappointing expansions that came after bled off anyone who didn't have an unhealthy attachment. There's a reason why years back they decided to stop disclosing subscriber rates; they had lost the majority of the population from Warlords launch to about a year into release, the quality of the expansion depleted the last of the remaining good will towards the game, which during Mists was beginning to stabilize and was generally considered a significant improvement over the disaster that was Cataclysm.
Warlords finished the last vesitges of the game off and it became clear to normal people that there wasn't much left of the facade that hid the loot treadmill. Continual artifical content gates combined with random item level increases made it pretty obvious that Blizzard was only interested in milking the playerbase as long as possible to fund other projects. It's far easier to trap addicts and autists in a cycle chasing a few slightly increased numbers than have to spend time and money designing new content. There was always that hook of loot progression in previous expansions, but the content release schedule was generally faster. Things didn't start to slow down noticably until mid Wrath, where TOC, obviously built in a few days, languished as the max level raid for months and its successor ICC was around for over an entire year. It's another reason why so many people fled the game, there's no reason for a company pulling in hundreds of millions in revenue to have content droughts of over a year in a game where the player pays a monthly subscription. People finally got tired of paying monthly for blizzard to fund the development of the new expansion while being forced to buy it on release all over again.
257b7a No.15181343
>>15179178
Nah, halfchan would be shilling the life out of its present state. WoW right now is garbage, but of course people have memories of its glory days and the times it had a community.
>>15180061
Holy fuck, I want the old Legolas elves back instead
9bc791 No.15181346
>>15178145
trial of the crusader was where it all went downhill mate.
while icecrown made up for it a bit ToC was when lfg happen as well.
6e332e No.15181348
Man I do miss Dark of Camelot and RvRvR.
Hope Camelot Unchained lived up to the hype
257b7a No.15181363
>>15181346
Being fair, the taint of that sort crept in as early as vanilla. Cross-server battlegrounds fixed the lag times, yes, but they also killed a lot of the community's sense of conflict. It no longer mattered if the best leaders on the server were online, nor could you see people in Orgrimmar shouting that we can win Alterac Valley if more people join the 6-hour battle. Everything became vapid, and no comparable world pvp incentives were created to fix that.
da76c1 No.15181404
>>15176435
>Be every xpak or content patch
>Hurr Durr wow is dead
Dude, it's interactive wallpaper, play it, don't play it. No-body cares.
cc624f No.15181436
>>15180061
WoTLK was the height for PvP, and the PvE was also good. Everyone who played through the previous expansions will agree to this. The start of Cata is when the game began its decline, you can see it in the sub numbers. The start of WoTLK was a bit rough with deathknights being unstoppable, but by the time Ulduar hit things evened out. The end of the expansion was by far the best the game had to offer, even though plate classes were a bit powerful when geared, and overpowered with shadowmourne (which <0.1% of the population had).
>>15180243
The private server scene is a shadow of what it was. Back before the first wave of DMCA takedowns, servers like Toxic WoW and AniWoW had multiple 4k population fully scripted servers with competant admins and devs. I doubt servers of that magnitude will ever come back because anyone who wants to make a private server these days is a kike or 14 year old who never knew what made WoW great.
ec1f6a No.15181542
>>15181321
>It's far easier to trap addicts and autists in a cycle chasing a few slightly increased numbers than have to spend time and money designing new content.
Makes sense, since the current pop is just filled with 12 year old addicts and autists that do nothing but play that 'game' and as long as blizz keeps shelling out enough green for PR and cinematics they can keep the 12 year old man baby addicts and autists trapped in this cycle for as long as they please.
f91f57 No.15187488
>>15180143
What annoyed me about wrath, that made it too hard to get into, was how much they casualized mana management. You no longer needed to think about healing, just spam that shit. Fuck that burned my ass for some reason.
c1bf1e No.15187571
>>15178073
you had 5 tiers in legion.
d8887d No.15187577
>>15176450
>>15176454
Get fucked, WoW was shit at the time as well.
It was a fucking repetitive clunky piece of shit with awful controls and even worse combat.
2de043 No.15187586
a wow degenerate addict thread. can you fuck off back to cuckchan you fucking worthless oxygen thieves
c1bf1e No.15187598
>>15187586
WoWs good, why so mad?
d5abe9 No.15187772
>>15176821
>still vividly remember your first day as a troll shaman thinking how fucking cool it was to be part of the Warcraft world
As soon as classes were no longer exclusive that feeling kind of died for me
000000 No.15188063
>>15176435
Hype is a mental illness. Being hyped was your biggest problem.
e9ee39 No.15188409
>>15176435
>How is this shit still called the "best" out there?
Because it's been out for so long, and been a major part of so many people's lives, that to discard it or to admit that it's shit would be tantamount to admitting that you wasted years of your life for nothing. This game has caused people to lose jobs, lose spouses, miss events with family and friends, hell I'd be surprised if some people haven't died because of this game. You'd certainly get some suicides if it did shut down.
You can't just wad it all up and throw it in the trash, even though that's where it belongs. People are in too deep now, too invested. They might drift away, but in the back of their minds, they're still WoW players and could go back at any time - they just haven't for whatever contrived reasons. They still need that assurance there as a coping mechanism, a crutch… to have something, anything, to show for all that time they've lost and will never get back.
608275 No.15188412
>>15187772
The homogenization of classes hurt the most for me. I enjoyed that each class brought something unique, even if certain things were not the absolute best thing you could use.
1b6503 No.15188444
>>15177872
Just to put into perspective how bad Cata was, not only did it result in Ghostcrawler "leaving" but even totalasscancer quit and stopped doing the WoW content that made him popular. If Cataclysm never happened, totalasscancer might not have become popular and he would have quietly died of cancer with only SA knowing who he is.
fd9615 No.15188486
I just want to ride around on a skeletal horse.
9a86f2 No.15188491
>>15188409
Why shouldn't they kill themselves?
e9ee39 No.15188515
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>>15176974
>FFXIV itself seems to have become a no fun build allowed
FFXI was pretty much exclusively a no-fun build allowed game. You either played an approved job/sub, subsist on a few pity invites from your LS while they waited for more lucrative oppertunities, or you solo'd. I had a MNK/DRG build I thought was pretty alright, because I could dish out a decent amount of damage - which a thief could use trick-attack on - to end up focusing all the enemies hate on me. Then I'd do a super-jump while my other abilities cooled down and the enemy would just sit there impotently flailing at the air because I was out of range. Then I'd land and be ready to start the cycle again.
Couldn't find a party for shit with that setup though. You were expected to sub Warrior or some other class I can't remember at the moment. That's part of why I quit the game, because I like playing around with job combinations/roles and optimize them to make interesting viable hybrids. Such activity was NOT encouraged in FFXI. Before that I was playing PSO, and I had a pretty damned punishing Melee FOnewearl build which most people loved because it required autistic level use of buffs/debuffs to the exclusion of nuking (except for status effect, like spamming Ra-Barta for freezing fast enemies). Getting a FO to support in PSO was like pulling teeth because jobs weren't divided among classes - every Force was both a nuker and a healer and it was up to the player to decide what to use in what context. Most just wanted to nuke shit for big numbers, but that caused the enemies to flinch, introduced damage cancel - leaving HUs open to counter-attacks while still in their own attack animation. By leaning heavily on LCK and Multi-hit weapons like daggers - I was farming critical hits for an equivalent damage output to a HU about 20lvls lower than myself. Since Ultimate mode started at lvl 80 and had to last you to lvl 200 - there was more than enough variance in player levels that I fit right in and could throw elbows with the HU's while providing superior support coverage from the center of the action.
Being a FOnewearl meant I also had the lowest HP of any character/class in the game, which made her a bit of a glass cannon that was interesting to use and kept you on your toes.
597700 No.15188526
Bitch at least you've got a game still
e9ee39 No.15188570
>>15177060
>>15177088
>you mean shows like family guy and/or the big bang that have just "shoutouts" and aren't based around mmos?
>Western show based on MMO
Don't get mad at me, you asked.
9a4071 No.15188696
>>15188515
>such activity was NOT encouraged in FFXI
heh, it's funny how a influx of bad players will get people questioning the builds of the people they invite.
It's amazing to watch it happen over and over. even on the vanilla wow server i played on i had to convince people to invite me. Sometimes you have to just tell em "hey man im not that bad mage you grouped with yesterday, i'm someone totally different"
It's the reality impairing expectations. When bad players were the exception you blamed them, but once they became the rule, everyone would blame the class or the spec, and you got into a lot of nonsense like people parroting shit like "haha X is trash" "lol x cant do that role". Once we lost that skilled majority we also started to lose that freedom to experiment. You could still do it, but that pushback from pugs would definitely discourage me.
i can still remember having to link my weapon and stats to a group lead to convince them to let me dps as ret EVERYime i wanted to join a heroic.
46ca2e No.15188727
>>15188570
Reminder this aberration started in 2007
10ff5c No.15189065
>>15188515
i couldn't get into FFXI purely because of the camera controls.
5a6625 No.15190191
>>15189065
it was the giraffe necks that kept me away.
8bebb1 No.15190210
>>15180210
>>15180061
Early wotlk was trash, season 8 was the best season ever, followed by season 3. Cata and beyond is a dumpster fire.
9991f4 No.15190248
>>15176435
>better mmos get released over the years.
such as?
5e88ea No.15190279
>>15190210
>Season 3
>good
I bet you played a Rogue you fucking fag.
8bebb1 No.15190288
>>15190279
No, but I sure enjoyed destroying them glaives and all.
804913 No.15190456
>>15188570
Even back then, Felicia Day was one ugly bitch (they're all ugly). I thought Fantasy characters were supposed to be eye candy?
9a4071 No.15190493
>>15190210
>wotlk was trash
there was pve, raids, bgs and arena
which part didnt you like? for me the first few days i played for about 40 hours straight leveling up and hitting the new zones; i was the first person into dalaran on my server and i glid off from there and went into a few other places just to explore them and see what there was. It was amazing. i did a bit of arena but it was never as fun to me as bgs were. I started playing late so i was always behind the raid geared fags who farmed arena stuff easier and had a bit of a headstart imo
ad3f8a No.15190598
>>15187571
Are you retarded?
>Emerald nightmare (7 bosses, intro raid)
>Trial of Valor (3 bosses as a little appetizer for taking MONTHS before people can do the first tier)
>nighthold (T1)
>Tomb of Sargeras (T2)
>Antorus the burning throne (T3)
If you want to count the first two raids as one tier, sure, go ahead. But 5? dellusional.
c8715c No.15190988
>watch WoW take over the world as a kid that had no access to WoW money
>all my stupid middle school friends begged their parents for $
>parents relent and treat WoW as $15 dollar a month baby sitting
>my jew southern baptist parents don't ofc because everything is evil
>this time they were sort of right
>be bitter about it as a kid but play on friends account while he's offline
>char gets deleted by dumbass friend
>"fuck this shit man yall idiots pay to grind blizzard's just trying to cuck your wallet by making the game impossible to get to lvl 60 without ruining your irl"
>finally get money to play on and off so now my wallets cucked by blizz
>cata happens and ruins the game for everyone
>game gets progressively worse in every possible way
>bitch about it and leave forever
>meet qt gf that plays wow for the fishing quests
>oh yeah i play that game too qt
>do questing that never goes anywhere and fishing quests with qtgf for $15
>paying bliz $15 for "bonding"
>profit????
62a33e No.15191000
>>15176435
Play project 1999 or a uo private server and fuck off.
c8975d No.15195697
>>15187772
I hate that Draenei became alliance shamans. On the other other hand I love that draenei exist, they're a great race idea in general for fantasy. I don't think they belong in World of Warcraft or fit whatsoever. I wish somebody else had come up with them as an idea.
e84af5 No.15195722
>>15176435
The worst part is that every new MMO that comes out copies chunks of this piece of garbage. I just want an MMO where the world isn't completely static and where the game doesn't start only after reaching the level cap
f91f57 No.15195909
>>15177780
In terms of armor, I only remember memorizing what the higher tier gladiator armor shoulders, chests, and helmets looked like so I knew which guys were about to give me a bad time during pvp.
>>15179531
I doubt vanilla will ever actually release. It's just blizzard trying to weaken private servers. They can't actually have vanilla wow back, it'd show how horribly wow has deteriorated.
6eb0b8 No.15195939
>>15188515
This. So much this. Even getting into exp groups as a "subpar" job is cancer. I'm playing on Nasomi's private server on and off and getting invites as a WHM past 41 or as a MNK is a waste of time. I've seen been in a BRD(me)/WAR/COR/THF/THF/RDM group where the COR and the melee lined up instantly and perfectly for SATA circle jerking and we killed mobs faster than I could pull. I've seen BLUs take off 50% of a mob's health with a good SACA. I've seen a BLM that did nothing but take off the last 35% of a mob's health with an AM. Or a PLD that didn't need to be healed. And yet nobody wants to invite those jobs to exp or merit parties. Follow the meta or spend days with your LFG flag up, in vain.
This shit isn't exclusive to FFXI, it happens in every fucking MMO. Idiots playing MMOs simply can't think for themselves, and when they run across something that wasn't "written in the guide", they just stand around looking dazed and confused. Here's a good, albeit personal, example: at the launch of WoW, I played a Paladin. WoW was my first MMO and I was completely clueless about everything. I liked the idea of being a tank so I put my talents into Prot, but I quickly realized that it was shit. Respec'd to Holy at 60 and quickly realized that it was amazing. I could stack Intellect, MP5 and bonus healing, and I'd end up being able to heal better than any Priest I'd seen. But getting invited to dungeons was futile since people didn't believe Paladins could heal. I joined a guild and did MC, but I'd get bitched at for spending my DKP on healing cloth items because "I should be wearing Strength and Agility plate like other Paladins". Nevermind that I was crushing every other healer on the meters, never died or pulled aggro. I'm still better about it 14 years later.
441f47 No.15195963
>>15178073
FF14's GCD drags ass for so long. At level 50 I switched to Red Mage from Summoner, even though SMN is more complex and has more 0GCD weaving at endgame, because at that point RDM gave me more to do than just Ruin spam.
However I agree that if anons want a WoW clone FF14 is the way to go.
fb22b8 No.15196020
>>15195963
FFXIV is also getting progressively worse each patch at a much faster rate than WoW ever did. Shit leveling in that game is the worst it's ever been because even at max level you have to sit through the horribly written story quests to get to the content that's even remotely relevant.
That and the classes are just poorly designed as fuck right now with DRK being so bad even SE admits they need a rework but refuses to do so and keeps pushing it back each patch. But don't worry the content's so brainlessly easy the only thing that can prevent you from clearing shit is a bugged text line telling you the wrong ability the boss is going to use.
441f47 No.15196151
>>15196020
>Fuck this story is dumb
>Skip, skip, skip, skip
>Beyond retarded implementation of unskippable cutscenes in the final two dungeons of the main story (for 2.0)
>They still have to update the roulette for it to give desirable rewards for endgame players.
>Cutscenes are full of content that should have been somewhere in the rest of the story, but got shoved down our throats at the last second.
>Instead you spend most of your time being the realm's bottom bitch
>Beat it, and feel a little sad since they did almost nothing to paint the bad guy as the bad guy other than him being a part of the ebul empire.
>GAIUS DID NOTHING WRONG.jpg
>Finally credits are rolling
>I hear Heavensward had a decent story
>lolno you have to do the post content story quests too
>"Hey anon the Astral Era quests starting in patch 2.5 are pretty gud"
>The absolute most retarded shit happens
<Raubahn cuts a potato in half though, that was cool.
>FINALLY start Heavensward
>I have no autistic rants about it. It wasn't GREAT, but it wasn't bad either.
>Fucking 10/10 ost though
>Actually felt like I was on an important quest and my allies also did bottom bitchwork alongside me.
>Except for them retconning the ending of the 2.X questline THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO CHANGE EVERYTHING making it all fucking pointless
>Hit Stormblood.
>Finally see why the empire is a problem other than "ebul nazis >:("
>Zenos van Galvus is fucking cool as shit as a villain
>Yotsuyu is pretty great at first, but won't shine until 4.3
>Rest of the story is pretty okay. Not terribly interesting nor offensively bad.
>Final raid of the exapansion
>Amazing OST once again
>Hard enough to make normalfags cry
>Felt like a true and proper climax even if it was a tad asspull-y
>The story in the post-content patches is actually breddy gud
>4.3 was pretty awesome
I agree though. Even at endgame it's not particularly hard. You just have to go through the motions. Savage mode stuff requires a good group though and does look legitimately challenging, but I quit before getting into it.
I'd honestly say a bigger problem is the game is infested with normalfags and THE GAY COMMUNITY.
fb22b8 No.15196159
>>15196151
Savage really isn't hard, if you watch a 2 minute video you can do it 100% of the time provided the rest of your group doesn't fuck a duck, it's absurdly formulaic . Especially the most recent ones.
c4ca0e No.15196221
>>15196159
>>15196151
>Savage really isn't hard, if you watch a 2 minute video you can do it 100% of the time provided the rest of your group doesn't fuck a duck, it's absurdly formulaic
I like to think of ffxiv's endgame stuff as MMO DDR. More like a cooperative rhythm game, though still fun in its own right. I just dropped it again in lieu of WoW because I cannot into online social anymore. At least wow has trade chat for bantz.
f91f57 No.15196342
>>15196159
>>15196221
>>15196151
>>15196020
>>15195963
I've never played ff14 before, but thinking of my days of wow during classic and tbc is making me wistful. Is ff14 fun, or should I not waste my time? For reference i'm mostly about pvp and some slight pve stuff inbetween.
441f47 No.15196412
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>>15196342
PVP and slight PVE? Maybe? I don't think the pvp is thought very highly of, I remember a guildmate of mine complaining about how fucking long the queue was for The Feast, but I also don't think it's locked behind the massive content wall that is the Main Story Quest. Remember, you're going to have to plunk down money for the game and the latest expac (Heavensward is unlocked automatically by buying Stormblood) which may be bundled together for anywhere between 40 and 60 USD, plus 11 or 15 per month (the 11 dollar sub leaves you with one character slot, which is all you need, but they also don't sell game time cards for that deal). If it were free I'd say give it a shot, you've got nothing to lose, but I can't give the same guarantee since this costs shekels.
On the other hand the game can be pretty comfy in general.
c4ca0e No.15196420
>>15196342
>ffxiv
>pvp
Nope, or barely. It is not known as its strong suit at all and is relegated to arenas and bgs. The game is more like a streamlined and mostly solo-able WoW. As a result, the game is the themeparkiest of themepark mmos. The dungeons and 'trials' (grouped boss-encounters) are a lot of fun, but the actual game outside of that is often dull aside from some occasionally difficult solo scenarios.
441f47 No.15196439
>>15196420
All that is true, but
>some occasionally difficult solo scenarios.
Don't even get me started on the bullshit that is the level 60 RDM job quest.
c4ca0e No.15196440
>>15196412
>On the other hand the game can be pretty comfy in general.
That's worth mentioning. It's easily the most aesthetic MMO right now.
cbccb9 No.15196448
>>15176454
Plenty people back then day said that WoW was basically a more accessible Everquest
c4ca0e No.15196471
>>15196448
Can confirm. I remember dropping EQII for WoW originally because its accessibility made it seem more full of 'normal' people. The EQ community always felt aloof and pretentious, but then again I was a noob at the time. Nothing will really ever beat SWG's community though. If not for the CU/NGE nuking my character, I might've stuck around.
62cee1 No.15196717
>>15176435
Nice bait. No self-respecting human being would play WoW or any Blizz's game for that matter. To do so your taste has to be so shit and intelligence so low you can no longer be considered a human, even below a braindead vegetable. As such it's impossible for a blizzdrone to hate the game or the company since they're incappable of a singular critical thought.
e1deed No.15197154
>>15176496
>Can anybody tell me what they saw in it?
I didn't play Warcraft 3 so I went in thinking Warcraft was still badass like 1 and 2.
I was sorely mistaken.
fb22b8 No.15197825
>>15196342
PvP is so unironically dead that hackers run rampant in it and no one cares. SE also refuses to do anything about it because it's a non-JP problem
I'm not talking subtle hackers I'm talking full on "we take every point on the map and also gain 9000 points in a second" hacking
c57c53 No.15197842
>its another shill thread
>v just eats it the fuck up
You guys are pathetic. They make these "wow is shit" threads whenever an expansion is coming out. Here are some I saved from legion.
716e26 No.15198504
Every monday i make a dk, kneel in front of the lich king and beat off for 2 hours straight.
044a21 No.15198829
>>15176440
>It was the peak
No, that was UO.
cb286d No.15198852
Cucking the spammer with this image.
cb286d No.15198865
>>15198852
Hmmmm looks like the bot avoids threads it's images are already in.
044a21 No.15198867
>>15177003
Log Horizon was probably the best MMO ever devised and it'll never be made because nips have shit taste.
b14a17 No.15198996
>>15198867
There is a tabletop RPG version of this. Plays kind of like MMO with the aggro-drawing and the trinity. Still, you got it right. Log Horizon concept is totally rad and is about pioneering/exploring the horizon instead being an edgefag and smut MMO like most gook rubbish nowadays.
>>15195939
>Idiots playing MMOs simply can't think for themselves
Edgefags make the 'metas' and the raidfags/normalfags/casualfags eat that shit like human centipedes are what ruining the MMO games. People just want to explore and muck around with fun build and chill.
4a3862 No.15199326
>>15190988
>meet qt gf
How pathetic anon. Girls who play games are almost always shit, but a girl who plays an mmo is 100% shit. Not only do you have an addiction to a shit game that steals your money, you have shit taste in women. Amazing how a little wall of text can tell so much about how retarded some anons can be. I suggest you run now before she ruins you.
4f705e No.15199383
>>15176440
>It was the peak
No it wasn't. It was always fucking garbage.
4f705e No.15199393
>>15187772
Having classes to begin with is already part of what makes WoW so awful.
225de2 No.15199439
It's the "best" because there is no competetition
MMO is dead
000000 No.15200615
>>15176440
No, it really wasn't. WoW vanilla was a MMORPG for retards and casuals with absurd autistic grinding for "hardcore" players. It is what ruined the MMORPG genre, and not just because of all the idiots shitting out WoW clones, but because WoW itself was a shit MMO that did it worse than its predecessors. It was in many ways worse than regular MMOs and MUDs.
Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Ragnarok Online, EVE Online, Mabinogi, etc. were all better than this shit. Fuck, even RuneScape did a lot of shit better than WoW, like in their Wilderness area.
973ff0 No.15202112
>>15190493
>which part didnt you like?
the tournament of champions, and the LFR system eventually causing tiering in the game to go off the charts with LFRetards difficulty.
add that ulduar was the last choice piece of content we got as far as raids went until we got to pandaria's TotTK.
a094d4 No.15202126
>>15190456
she'd make a great wicked witch. I never met a single person who watched that fucking show and I have talked to a very large amount of faggots with awful taste. to this day it is a complete mystery to me how it was remotely popular
98df4a No.15202202
>>15178145
merciless and vengeful glad was TBC, anon
98df4a No.15202205
>>15178145
oh, also, GDKP is cancer
909d43 No.15202229
>>15200615
>absurd autistic grinding for "hardcore" players
>Says RO was better
RO belongs in the same trash bin as WoW you dumb faggot.
9e9237 No.15202234
>>15199326
Your unneeded input is as meaningless as your attempt to signal to everyone you're a chad on an chink imageboard.
000000 No.15202338
>>15202229
>gets pissed at Ragnarok Online
>but not Runescape
???
Anyway, my point was that WoW just sets a low fucking bar, dude. RO was still better than WoW.
89b00d No.15202859
>>15202234
I'm a chad and I approve of his post.
a2965b No.15207421
>>15202234
>being this asshurt
Anon just admit you and any other guy who pursues online women are just as fucked up as they are. Theres nothing chad about avoiding the women i mentioned previously. Thats just called having standards. Something you seem to be missing not only with your choice in women but in games as well.