/v/ - Video Games

>>15147475

Get out of here /tv/!

What is that shit?

>>15147502

Octopath Traveller. Square Enix finally put out a good videogame again.

I'm looking forward to it releasing in my local store that puts everything nintendo on sale.

>>15147475

Man, /tv/ makes the most inane memes.

does this game have the same boring FIGHT MAGIC ITEM gameplay that faggots seem to prefer in JRPGs or does it actually require skill

I remember when I was about knee-high my dad got me WIZARDRY for our PC and I thought it was so fucking cool because it was just like the dungeons & dwaggins shit my dad and his friends played

after that I played ultima, phantasy star, final fantasy, shining in the darkness, anything I could get my hands on that was turn-based (master of monsters was a late favorite from this period)

then Doom came out. it was the coolest motherfucking thing I had ever motherfucking saw, and I had to have it. I got commercial version 1.1 for xmas in 1993 and my faggy turn-based-game-playing hands struggled with it, it made me so mad

then one of my school "friends" came over

I didn't like this guy, he was a huge faggot for sega and sonic games and he loved streets of rage which I was totally shit at, we were basically forced to hang out because we were the only two kids in our school playing vidya

I smugly booted up Doom so he could marvel at it

>ahh you died

>hey anon let me try

almost immediately he was kicking the shit out of it on HMP and then he goes "can you use the mouse?" and starts mouse aiming like he's been doing it forever

I had sneered at mario and sonic as being unrefined games for children but the reality is that those games required skill and finesse to beat while my favorite faggy RPG and strategy titles required none. I felt self-accomplished for beating these games when in reality the only "challenge" they offered was understanding what little simple system mechanics they had, which even a child (like me, then) could intuit

ever since then I've honed my skills and now almost exclusively play games that challenge my body and my mind, I tried to go back to strategy games during the RTS boom with total annihilation, starcraft, and C&C RA, but it just felt so lame compared to the visceral thrill of unloading my SSG's wad directly into someone's face

anyway in conclusion as an old JRPGfag, why do people still play these games

>>15147512

at its base it does but it has a lot of sub systems so far. i picked the merchant path so you can use money to effect battle. beyond character traits like summoning or trapping animals or stealing each enemy has weakness to get a 'break' that stuns them for a turn and lowers defence but you need to figure out what the weakness is. You can have multiple items per character so say the merchant starts with a polearm, a crossbow, a windspell and item use one of those may cause a break but you need to switch them per turn -which doesnt cost the turn- to figure it out.

Otherwise you will die. Casuals are getting upset this game can give you game overs outside the first towns and has 30+ minute boss fights. You need to think while you play. A lot of modern turn based jrpgs are extremely simple rock paper scissors stuff which really became the norm with Final Fantasy X. This feels more like FF4-6 with some saga and mana mechancis thrown in.

I think a good jrpg is all about creative freedom. A bad one is a movie you hammer X to get through.

>>15147502

A good JRPG by the same people who made Bravely default.

>>15147512

This has to be bait. If you suck at a JRPG, you choke on the encounter as if you are sucking it for 10 bucks. The battles I have seen so far need some basic strategy, because the game requires you to mind the monster's weaknesses. Further than that I haven't seen anything, because I am still playing the demo and it didn't get beyond throw weakness against enemy and learn basic task. Also getting Cyrus and teaching him Analyse early is a very good idea, otherwise you get eaten for breakfast by some monsters, because you a stuck guessing the weaknesses for rounds.

>>15147519

Can confirm. See the spoiler. You will be pleased with Cyrus.

>>15147523

Oh yeah, I always thought Octopath Traveler looked good. Too bad it's a switch exclusive. Fugg. Well, maybe I'll play it in in a few years when I Switch comes down in price and is fully cracked open like the 3ds.

>>15147523

I can imagine how useful it is. Tressa runs into these two fish with a 60hp charge move they can spam. If you dont swap to crossbow for the break you are getting a game over. Theres no question the fight is lost. I love that shit.

>>15147529

Surprising thing is its a Switch exclusive Jrpg but its selling out everywhere. You would think thats a niche of a niche but its selling faster than FFXV did. Wont make the same numbers but i think we could see another situation like FF13 and Bravely Default where being a smaller budget production while selling out means its much more profitable over all.

Considering SE just put out a survey saying "m-maybe you want us to make games for japanese audiences rather than chase the western appeal meme" and confirming the Octopath studio is making multiple switch games they might start getting their shit together. I expect the worst but can still hope for the best after this game so far is easily the best jrpg i've played in two console generations.

>>15147529

Just save for a switch if there is another game that would justify its purchase. It has so many worthwhile games that it is getting ridiculous

>>15147538

<its selling out everywhere.

Oh! Oh! I hope they restock in August, because Irather keep my money together than getting it early.

Two other things i like:

>Job Skills: you get jp as you battle and level up, but you don't auto get skills. You buy them and its not set. You start with 5 options and others unlock when you have enough unlocked. Allowing you to make a build rather than have a set character. The merchant for example can buy a free inn rest or the ability to spend money in battle to summon a mercenary party member for the fight.

>Battle grades: Didn't get hit once by using break and boost to chain stagger? thats an untouchable bonus. Get it done in a turn? thats a one turn bonus. Everything you do well gets more rewards at the end of the fight so you are incentivised to play smart rather than throw on a podcast and hammer X to grind mindlessly which would actively be slower progress.

>>15147551

>>15147512

this is me, changed to my desktop

>>15147523

>some basic strategy

dude, come the fuck on

"it's a fire imp so use water on it" is not "strategy" it's "not being retarded"

this is the same fuckin' retarded bullshit that RPGs have had us doing for 30 years, it's not interesting or clever or "strategic", I was literally doing this shit 30 years ago

if you think divining monster weaknesses and throwing the correct attacks at them while spamming healing magic or items to keep your HP up is "strategic", I don't know what to tell you.

>If you suck at a JRPG, you choke on the encounter as if you are sucking it for 10 bucks.

if you are literally retarded I guess you could suck at a JRPG? holy shit how can you lose in these games

>>15147519

as an old fuck who was basically grown when FF6 came out I can assure you that it is no more complicated than FFX, stop sucking the dick of old games because they're old and realize that the genre you like has always been shit mechanically

if you play the games for the story or the art or the music or whatever man, I get it, not my scene but I can kinda understand (I also understand comfy feels from chilling and conquering some easy low-stress game) but holy shit don't tell me these games are fun and engaging to play

>>15147557

>6 is no more complicated than 10

I think you may be misremembering some things. FFX lets you swap out any character for any other at any time mid battle and every single monster has a rock, paper, scissor style one shot. Is it a flying beast? wakka one shots it. Is it an elemental? lulu one shots it. Is it an armoured beast? Auron one shots it. I like the game a lot for its world and soundtrack but it is brainless in its lack of complexity.

The mere fact 6 has you break up the party at multiple points and balance what limited choices you have for huge chunks of the game is far more interesting and player thought reliant than 10.

I will never understand the "i-its just nostalgia, the older game can never ever be better!" mindset. If that was impossible why would games as a whole be shittier now?

>>15147519

>I picked the merchant path

Hey Mark

>>15147571

>I will never understand the "i-its just nostalgia, the older game can never ever be better!" mindset. If that was impossible why would games as a whole be shittier now?

that's not what I said you faggot, I said FF6 isn't more complex than FF10, which is true, there's one fucking stat in the entire game that actually matters for defense and you can get almost every single character the most powerful magic in the game that hits the whole field and one-shots 99% of the mobs

yeah, I played FF6 when it was new and I was bored the whole goddamn time outside of the story cutscenes. that game is so god damn easy to break if you aren't retarded, there's nothing to it

>I will never understand the "i-its just nostalgia, the older game can never ever be better!" mindset. If that was impossible why would games as a whole be shittier now?

I didn't say anything about "better" or "worse" I said "more complex", and if you think complexity directly plays into game quality (i.e. more/less complex necessarily equals better/worse game) then you are exactly the kind of retarded I would expect from a JRPG fan

>>15147557

>"it's a fire imp so use water on it" is not "strategy" it's "not being retarded"

Then tell me what 2 drunken pirates are weak against without watching it on Youtube. I remain here waiting for your gymnastics.

>holy shit how can you lose in these games

There are many ways. Not managing your shit correctly is the most common one. Going in too early or betting on the wrong general Strategy is what did me in FF V.

>>15147571

Because youngfags have that mindset that history hasn't begun before they were born. Its retarded. Very retarded.

>>15147576

Hi plebbit, bye plebbit. too tiny, goober. Too tiny

>>15147579

Then hack in the detailed manual on how to break it with having Cyan in the party as often as possible. FF VI is a bad choice for comparison to X, because it is the simpler game systemwise. How about V? It has actually the Job system and doesn't rely on Espers for versatility.

>>15147594

real talk: V is a more fun game than VI even if i love them both.

YES I SAID IT.

>>15147487

>a shitty meme made on /tv/ and used there specifically

>durrr boogeyman

Kill yourself.

>>15147601

not edgy you faggot, everyone knows V is the better game

>>15147594

>Then tell me what 2 drunken pirates are weak against without watching it on Youtube. I remain here waiting for your gymnastics.

>gymnastics

hahaha what a faggot

anyway how the fuck should I know? I don't know what game you're talking about and I don't know its systems, it could be a tim schafer game and have you cum in their assholes after getting a footjob, how the fuck should I have any idea

>>15147594

>FF VI is a bad choice for comparison to X, because it is the simpler game systemwise. How about V? It has actually the Job system and doesn't rely on Espers for versatility.

I'll give you credit for that as V is certainly the more complex game and it benefits as a result, in fact I'll say that 6 is the first game I ever played where I cursed the influence of the mainstream because it felt dumbed-down compared to V (even if I had a serious waifu boner going on for tina/terra)

I dunno where this faggot >>15147587 got the idea that I think "freedom of choice is a slight", one of the best things in the early wizardry and ultima games that phantasy star and the later FF games (well, fuck, "later pre-HD games", goddamnit I'm old) fucked up is that you give up the only real source of interesting mechanics in the entire system, which is your ability to compose your party in interesting ways

so yeah I think FFV is certainly more complex and interesting than FFX but they both pale in comparison even to something like Fallout 2 where you have full control over not only your character's abilities and equipment but also have a real effect on the progression of the story

>>15147479

No it's cuckchanners.

>>15147647

ooh ooh me too, its meleefags XD

>>15147475

>cuckchan memes

Goons and newfags

Looks like a shitter bravely default to me

>>15147812

This, and I didn't even like Bravely Default. That game really goes to shit in the second half and I suspect a lot of people that praised it didn't realize it's the vidya equivalent of endless eight.

>>15147475

>>>/4chan/

>>15147627

Now I know you're a lying nigger that's just making shit up. FFV didn't come out in the west until the psx version years and years after FFVI.

There's no way you played V before VI.

>>15148043

>wow like everyone is a white american

>>15148069

FFV never had a non-Japanese release and you aren't a nip. Nips can't into English and non-Nips can't into Nip. Ergo, you didn't play FFV and you're first and you're a lying nigger, probably underage, who's making shit up on the fly.

>>15148043

Unless he imported it, which is not very likely.

>>15147627

> I don't know what game you're talking

And failed already. Thanks for implying your reading level.

>>15148069

So you are actually from Japan? That is the only country that had Ultima, Wizardry and all Final Fantasies.

>>15148074

Yes. I am not there yet, because I am only playing the demo. I have just gotten the ability to hire Merchants during combat that can make hammering the weakness unnecessary.

>>15148074

>>15148103

i want to fuck the fairy with my whole penis

>>15147468

>Game is barely out, takes 40-50 hours to complete, finally a good fucking Jrpg

That's what you get for sucking Nintendo's cock for so long and go back to cuckchan you fucking shill.

>>15148126

Stop talking out of your ass without evidence. The longest play through I could find was 3 hours long and it isn't that long into the game.

Not inof sexy characters dropped.

>>15148126

>only review that said that is from kotaku

Jason pls go.

>>15148083

I am japanese-american you faggot

and if you can't learn japanese you have the learning ability of a monkey

>>15148085

>And failed already. Thanks for implying your reading level.

higher than yours, I guess

>So you are actually from Japan? That is the only country that had Ultima, Wizardry and all Final Fantasies.

third-generation japanese in the US, my dad bought all our console games from japan so we would be forced to learn the language (heh)

>>15148228

You are just mutt and rised mutt. You can't be japanese.

>>15147512

Journo/child rapist spotted.

>>15148228

>higher than yours, I guess

On what vending machine psychedelics?

>>15148188

>buys switch

>f-fuck nintendo

yee bro fight the power

So has anyone actually played this or is everyone here to meme?

Is this full of words, words, words like Bravely Default?

I enjoyed the demo, but couldn't stand the actual game.

>>15148380

i dont know shit about no video games im just here to eat pussy

>>15148384

A lot less so far. Its more about choosing what to do when with what character. Like breaking into something as a thief or greasing your way in with zenni as the happy merchant.

>>15148353

I bought it refurbished dipshit.

That means that nintendo didnt get a single cent from me.

I'm only going to use the switch for piracy just like how I did for my n3ds and wiiu.

>>15148380

Read the thread. Some of us played the 3 hour demo.

I thought it was pretty gud.

>>15147468

HUURRR, MUURRRTT NUURRM IRRSSS MRRGRGRRRR WERRTTS YUURRRRSS

>>15148552

Birmingham pls go and take your eldritch gutterspeak with you.

>>15148545

No, because most threads aren't talking about the fucking demo like a final product.

Tressa is cute.

I wish the characters talked to each other more, though.

That doesn't look very good.

I'll save my money for Dragon Quest XI

>>15149175

>muh yeast

I never played it, just wanted to make fun of you for liking a game that rhymes with yeast.

>>15149235

>not-guts greatsword user

>generic spellcasting little girl

Yeah…looks real good.

>>15149235

Yeah right. I have never seen a more hamfisted contrarian post than this. You recommend a fucking iPad of all things. Not only this, but I am certain that some of these are made with this:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rpg-creator/id871799851

>>15149175

Sadly unless you speak moon you shouldn't play Ys VIII.

>>15147510

>Square Enix finally put out a good videogame again.

I tried the demo, and I can honestly say I think the localization and voice acting has completely ruined it for me. I was actually looking forward to playing it at one time. Tried the Dancer's path a bit and wasn't too impressed, so I tried H'aanit's path, and holy shit - it was filled with such tortured faux olde english thous and tisith and wasths in every fucking line that it felt like a high-school try-hard wrote it. If they had just used plain english with a bit of it for flavoring, that'd be one thing - and I could turn the VA off, I presume, but this shit is like nails on a chalkboard and it's in the text so it's completely fucked no matter what you do sort of maybe importing the SEA version.

>>15149251

>Shitting on Valkyrie Profile with such weak shitposting

How far this board has fallen off the rails

>>15149302

He was always a Guts ripoff though, that's why I thought he looked cool.

>>15149299

>This game bad because reading hard

That's not a good reason

>>15149299

>he is not it

<h'aainit

>>15149334

Tortured use of language from some fag who just visited the local Medieval Faire is not difficult to read, just painful.

>dur, bad localizations don't make for a bad game

Where the fuck do you think we are?

>>15149334

>reading hard

Yeah, seems like you have quite a bit of trouble with that yourself, friendo :^)

>>15149333

Still doesn't justify such weak shitposting.

>>15149346

German localization is ogre.

>>15149302

>implying I was talking about the other cunt.

I was talking about the noodle whore with the huge forehead and the staff, but I still dont care about Valkyrie Profile. It's probably a good game, but female protagonists and cunt heavy battle parties aren't my cup of tea.

>>15149334

>He can't possibly dislike this terrible translation.

>He must be illiterate.

Looks g-

>switch only

lmao

>>15149353

The main reason why I wanted to play Valkyrie Profile was because of the Guts ripoff and the explosions he made with his special movie when I was like 11, that's the main reason why I even gave a shit about the game, his story is a nice intro chapter, much better than the sequel.

>>15149299

That was pretty bad. It looks like the chick's village is just full of Faire rejects while the rest of the world caught up to the 16th century, based on the way the herald talks. If she's the only main character that talks like that, I'd assume it was a failed attempt to emphasize a weird way of speaking in the original Japanese.

>>15149399

Pretty much this. I have looked up the character to most likely speak standard English and its OK from there. You can also switch the dub to Japanese. I really do wonder the guy complaining about it hasn't done it from the get go. Its like the first thing I have done as soon the demo finished downloading.

>>15149455

>just use your strongest attacks.

Very bad idea in this game. Your attacks become the equivalent of petting the enemy's head brutally if you do something he is resistant to.

>>15147468

Is it actually good? I really hate the artstyle. I would have much rather preferred hand-drawn sprites rather than pixelshit.

>>15149469

Maybe they are using Nintendo's technique of only releasing 10 copies and then marvel at the fact that it all sold off.

>>15148141

anyone else confirm? I want to try this game but it seems more like a 4 hour mini-game than an actual lengthy JRPG.

>>15149475

i'm 11 hours in and i am 30% through the first of 9 chapters.

>>15149474

Technique? More like incompetence.

>>15149521

For how many rounds? Are you so gay that you like choking on stuff or are you just guessing?

>>15148103

>bloom

i hate that shit, makes the game look ugly as fuck.

>>15147512

Sonic doesn't require skill. All you do is press right.

>>15147512

So in short, you're a faggot that can't adapt well into games with varying mechanics. Sucks to be you, I guess.

>>15147571

He's right, tho. VI was possibly the easiest system to break before the Materia System in VII. The uniqueness ended the instant magicite was introduced. Gogo was there just to add insult to injury. Anyone that relied on Gau's straycat hax or Cyan's slow-assed swordtech/bushido was just dumb or overly invested in shit characters. Back to the point, you weren't "forced" to a corner at any time in the game since it's fucking Final Fantasy and they made an effort to stop pushing people's shit in on dungeons after FF2. Your most unique has been FFIV with its fixed systems but even then that was a "Mash A to Win" fest.

Here's the ultimate trick, though: broken mechanics don't mean much in a game with an actual story to tell & characters to love. I give Gau & Cyan shit, but I still kinda like them. Lufia's shit was super easy but I fucking adore the characters, settings, and the ballsy endings. FF honestly didn't get shit until even the characters began to suck (FFXII)

Theres a real fucking interesting comment from the devs doing the rounds: "No there will be no DLC. Rpgs dont need DLC. We made a 100% complete game you pay for once as you should" which holy shit is that a total 180 from FFXV's multi season pass unfinished shitshow.

>>15149581

its not incompetence if they've been doing it for the past number of years now they don't like used or over supply of games period they want you to pay full price or more for their games all year round all generation long.

>>15148545

we will talk about the game when it is out faggot

>>15147468

>Its been so fucking long i literally cannot think of the last good one i played

Alliance Alive was great, or maybe I only liked it because it scratched my Suikoden itch a little.

>>15150167

Brother this is all we do with modern vidya. We try and find just a little sliver of something, or a part of something that scratches a long unscratched itch.

Its like being a murderhobo in the yukon panning for golddust.

>>15150146

That's not really a fair statement. FFXV is finished. The director asked fans what they WANTED to see from dlc.

>>15150177

He asked what they wanted and they said they wanted a complete story so ardyn finally gets some rational for being edgy jeremy irons. If your second season pass is trying to supply demand for a feature complete retail game thats greasy as fuck. FFXV is a travesty of rpg design kept alive by fujoshi and gen tumblr shipping the fucbois. As a videogame it is objective trash with two button combat so slow summons exist entirely as a pity mechanic you can only use when a fight is taking too long. Really think about the design ethos behind that.

>>15150257

I'm 12 hours in and i think its pretty [REDACTED]

>>15149175

Why are you posting a picture of a rape victim in a JRPG thread?

>>15149469

Fire Emblem Awakening and Xenoblade (Wii) probably

>>15149469

>that Captain Toad Treasure Tracker just sitting on the shelf waiting to be picked up by an anon who never had a Wii U.

I made a good amount of money this week at work and I want to buy some games for my Switch. I want to buy:

>Captain Toad

>Crash Bandicoot Trilogy

>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

>Maybe Octopath Traveler if the game is actually good and this isnt just a meme thread

>Dragon Quest 8 for the 3DS

Thoughts on each game?

BDFF had a great combat system that was spoiled by everything else sucking at its worst or just being kinda mediocre and middling at its best. How is the combat in this one? Is it less of a drag and did they make more than 5 areas in the entire world? The few areas BDFF had were very creative but only on a surface level were they interesting. Once you got past the nice aesthetic and realized you were going to spend half the game revisiting them to do the same shit it became a drag.

Ignoring my whining: Have the flaws of BDFF been addressed? Is the combat still good/good for what it is?

>>15150872

>Captain Toad

Haven't played so I wouldn't know, but the demo was okay. I think it might be better suited to the 3DS to be honest. I hate using the Switch's touch screen

>Crash Bandicoot

The port is bretty gud from what I've played. Really fun, despite how much shitposting you see about it.

>Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Also pretty fun. But if you like unlocking shit, look elsewhere because almost everything is unlocked from the start sans car parts and gold Mario

>Dragon Quest 8

Also haven't played.

>>15147512

>Strategy takes no skill.

Whoa there, that's what you get for playing against poorly done AI.

>can't read

Go back

You haven't played enough JRPGs.

>>15150955

meant for him >>15147570

>these nuts

Probably a good game, but this one example of the localization worries me greatly. Especially after Type-0 HD.

>>15150972

S+M1 is inferior to Doom.

>>15150994

Doom enemies don't have much variety, weapons are generic and level design is poor. Also SS is more cuhrazee and faster. It also contains cheesy humour.

>>15149747

dUMB ASS FAGGOT.

>>15149170

>Finally a good game!

>lol I don't have time to play it though!

Yeah no, gas yourself.

>>15149299

The guy in the thief path talking about tea pots and tea leaves, I don't get it. Hopefully that's translation and not some faggot cunt localizer getting inspiration from her lesbian coffee shop.

>>15150872

captain toad is like 5 hours long, its fun but wait for a sale. crash is okay but just okay

MK8D is the best mario kart

Octopath thus far is the best jrpg this console generation

dragon quest 8 is not very good and is a meme game.

Any reports of censoring yet?

>>15150989

DEEZE NUTS

>>15148103

Forget the shadows, the DoF is more a problem of keeping it from gelling visually. The bloom is definitely heinous too, of course. The particle effects and fog are way off too and don't help it look disjointed as all fuck and damn near sickly.

>>15153096

>look [less]

>>15149469

>captain toad on switch

why won't they just port **101* yet

>>15153158

I'm just dead ass broke, probably a good thing because I kept making dumb decisions when I had money and a job. I got the Wii U on release and it was probably the top 5 worst vidya related purchase I've ever made, it's been sitting there collecting dust for the past few years after I got bored of Smash Bros.

>>15153207

>I'm just dead ass broke

that sucks man, I've been there, but then I had this shitty job I hate, pays bills tho

>>15153158

I could barely find 6 or 7 for the Vita and I had to scan through that shit to find anything interesting, that's not enough for me to bother with.

>>15150160

>we

There's a playable demo, so there's gameplay available to discuss, you dense nigger,

>>15153158

There were more than that on the Wii U and you probably didn't buy one of those either.

>>15148126

>>15149475

I'm 6 hours in, started with the thief, level 15, need to hit level 22 so I can start chapter 2.

Cleric a shitfu. Hunter and Merchant top tier.

>>15150730

Get the scholar, he has a passive skill that lowers the encounter rate, its the first one you unlock too.

>>15147512

>Wizardry

>Ultima

>Doom

>Total Annihilation

>StarCraft

>Command & Conquer

First off, don't play western developed shit in the first place. The biggest redpill in gaming is realizing that every western "game" and localized game is worthless trash.

Second, blog elsewhere.

>>15156199

>The Job system in FFV was fucking amazing

Probably the worst part about FFV because the vast majority of abilities are trash.

>>15156199

>FFVI was too, but it was not in the anthology and was sold separately and, for some reason, had fucking awful load-times

Supposedly (this is just what I recall reading at the time), it's because the game was run using a PSX emulator they made. The Japanese devs didn't feel like hard-translating the game into English, so they just slapped on a patch - which pushed the entire emulator just over the limit of what the PSX could do with its storage, so everything required constant lookups on the CD.

>jrpg

>good

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>15155225

>Still dwelling on the demo days after the game was released

>Still no discussion of the full release

You're a special brand of retard.

>>15153096

You're right, battle backgrounds in particular look like I took my fucking glasses off. It's actually kinda straining on the eyes after a few hours. The game would have looked much better if they just made it all in 2D instead of that hideous amalgamate of 2D and 3D with atrocious bloom and depth of field.

I like the thief. Stealing shit and dodging everything is the way of patricians.

Any quality lewds yet?

>>15157171

>Who cares if they unfucked their mistake with a later release

>they still hurt my feelings in the past

god you are so fucking dumb I hope you forget how to breathe

>>15158014

Is this seriously the tier of cuckchan posting summer has brought us? I don't like JRPGs either but holy shit you're literally posting cuckchan images and posting like a rapefugee

>>15158037

> you're literally posting cuckchan images

Read the filename. I wanted to make the point that the shit genre these cucks are shilling is so fucking objectively dogshit that even cuckchan shits on it everyday.

>>15158037

Please do not reply to boat people. But yes, unsurprisingly the quality of that shithole took yet another nosedive after 2014.

>>15158014

>great tier

>any witcher game besides 2

>fo3

>god tier

>fallout

>bloodlines

lul

>>15153035

>>15153054

Same. We need a Switch emulator stat.

>good jrpg

>>15158087

I'm more upset about DX:HR being on the same level as Deus Ex. I mean, it's not really that bad of a game, but it's to Deus Ex what Quake 4 is to Quake.

If it sells well and there's no unifying content then I'd bet we get a direct sequel that imports saves.

Some small tips:

Don't be afraid to try some of the dungeons that are slightly higher danger level than you, around 3-4 is fine, it'll be a hard fight but the xp from one fight will usually give you a full level on the spot.

If you happen to pick up the Cleric on accident, don't be afraid to tell the Cleric to fuck off forever, her damage is shit, her heal isn't worth it when you can just take an item that does the same job but better, the weaknesses she covers are somewhat niche (staff & light) and most of her summons have shit tier damage. She's dead weight.

Get the scholar asap if you didn't start with him, he has 3 elements and can hit every enemy on the field, not only that but he has a passive that shows you enemy weaknesses and can get double attacks on his spells, I've got him hitting for 4k damage in a single turn at lv13, using fire storm on 4 broken enemies, I've been using the thief to keep him fed with SP. Which has been a good combination thus far. So just keep him in SP and you'll be fine.

>>15157973

Tressa deserves headpats and handholding.

>>15159487

and then proceeds to forgive and apologize TO the cunt. talk about cucked.

I am like 5 hours in with Primrose, shes qt. God help you if you use english though. With her and the knight I can hit shit for over 4/5k in one hit, its pretty good.

>>15157973

Tressa is too pure for the goyims eyes.

I really hated the first demo. I could easily stun-lock groups of enemies, and the first boss was just a slog to hit it as hard as possible before I fell over.

Then again, that was with one character.

How quickly until you get a second party member? Can you stun-lock whole packs of enemies easily?

Localization is such fucking cancer. I just got to Cobbleston with Cyrus and I fell upon a fucking arrow to the knee reference when I scrutinized the captain of the watch there.

I really hated the first demo. I could easily stun-lock groups of enemies, and the first boss was just a slog to hit it as hard as possible before I fell over.

Then again, that was with one character.

How quickly until you get a second party member? Can you stun-lock whole packs of enemies easily?

>>15159687

So bad you should pirate?

Are we talking Treehouse tier shit- in fact is it actually Treehouse?

>>15159687

>Localization is such fucking cancer. I just got to Cobbleston with Cyrus and I fell upon a fucking arrow to the knee reference when I scrutinized the captain of the watch there.

Based off of that and the mgrgr shit I'm betting 8-4 did the translation.

>>15159730

The translation is pretty bad, so that wouldn't surprise me.

>>15159730

Mgrgr is at least a reference to their other game they made (the dev, not the localizer). If the line is any form of annoyed grunt or short line ("Why you!" etc) then I'd say it'd acceptable.

If the original line wasn't her being angry/upset I'd be concerned.

>>15159736

The original Japanese dub for that scene in Bravely Default was just groaning, it wasn't announced onomatopoeia like in Jojo or Kaiji or some shit.

>>15159768

Eh, that's fine. Not good but fine.

On top of the other things anons have said, I'm a little concerned.

We were so busy warning everyone about NISA and Treehouse we forgot to tell them 8-4 also has a spotty rep.

Is it still OK overall?

>>15159931

It's a truly terrible feeling, isn't it?

Why are the visuals so awful? Whose fucking idea was it to make the game look like it does?

>>15160108

Fururyu took tips from western indie developers on how to utilize bloom and retro sprites to make an ugly commercial game for the switch.

>>15160124

Oh no wait, Acquire and the le classic Final Fantasy developers made it. Acquire usually makes low-budget looking shit.

>>15156199

>had fucking awful load-times

It's like a second and a half. I don't know why people over-exaggerate PSX FFVI's load time so much, I'm guessing it's just most people parroting second hand knowledge.

Why do all JRPGs bog themselves down with storyfaggotry? There are plenty of WRPGs which aren't ruined by story elements, but as far as I know, Mystic Quest is the only JRPG that isn't obsessed with story.

>>15160171

Except for the fact that Octoshit is fucking hated by everyone on this board for good fucking reason. Just read the recent replies, fucking everyone is shitting on it. 2018's No Man's Sky, without a doubt.

>>15160158

Shin Megami Tensei 1, Romancing SaGa or Dragon Quest 3 or something scrub.

>>15160184

Nobody cares about your cuckchan tier shitposting you stupid nigger, kill yourself.

>>15160195

DO they have the same level of no-story as the best RPG ever made, Angband?

>>15160207

*Do

>84 on Metacritic

>one of the worst localizations in gaming

>le epik western indie pixel bloom

>same storyfagging trap that most other J"""""""RPG"""""""s fall for

>rushed as shit final chapter

>even halfchan in their eternal shit taste shits on this """game""" regularly

<this is the game that shitendrones shilled every day until release

<shitch has no games for another day

HAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

>>15160228

>Trying to make this another console wars thread

Look, I get that you guys hate Mark or whatever, but this thread wasn't trying to shit on the other major consoles. It was just revolving around how the players of this particular game are enjoying/hating it.

imagine actually putting any weight in cuckchan or video game critic/journalist opinions.

>>15160262

Aside from the odd le meme xd, it looks okay to me. Localization is always shit anyway, the question is how much.

I should just learn moonrunes.

>>15160262

That made my eyes bleed, great. Well I'm sure that the people that enjoyed playing Bravely Default will enjoy this, it just looks like to me that it's trying to emulate a bad Romancing SaGa game or something.

>>15160251

Fucking based. How the fuck is Octoshit getting so BTFO, /v/omrades?

>>15160264

Imagine unironically enjoying a game that is so fucking shitty that even cuckchan is laughing at it.

>>15160274

>Well I'm sure that the people that enjoy eating shit will enjoy this

FTFY

>>15160320

>Imagine unironically enjoying a game that is so fucking shitty that even cuckchan is laughing at it.

oh no, muh internet validation. :(((

>>15160320

I'm enjoying it so far. I don't see the need to pour vitriol on the game when we're just trying to discuss it. If it really sucks as bad as your saying, we'll all find out after we've finished it and regret buying it. You should relax.

>>15160349

I think the worst part is that he's baiting without any context from my post, I'm not exactly praising the game here.

>>15158327

In my experience, the Apothecary is a healer leagues above the Cleric. His item use and combining is my favorite part of the game and are really useful. It’s too bad I’m playing the game with a Rouges party and a Nobles party so I have to use the cleric.

>>15159681

They actually removed the stun lock component from the demo, as breaking an enemy now only eats up one of their turns instead of two so they get to attack immediately after being broken.

>>15160262

>the fucking state of Undertale Traveler

>>15161016

Don't forget the PS1 release.

Can I get some feedback on my party composition? I feel like it covers every ground but it doesn't give most characters their true potential.

Therion - Thief/Apothecary

Cyrus - Sage/Priest

Olberic - Warrior/Dancer

Tessa - Merchant/Thief

My general plan is since Olberic and Cyrus are such heavy hitters, I want them to focus purely on using their highest damaging moves. For Olberic, he keeps Incite active at all times while benefiting from the Dancer skill Eye for an Eye. He either spends his turns using Cross Strike or his special Warrior ability, both of which do very generous damage to an enemy with a broken guard/lowered physical resistance.

Cyrus spends his turns blasting as much high damage magic as possible, given Priest he convers every magic other than Wind (covered by Tessa) and Darkness (covered by Olberic).

Therion isn't a very high damage character, so I feel he can waste more time debuffing and playing a support role. He mainly exists in my party to break guard, do healing to the tank and lower enemy defences. If need, I also have him share SP with Cyrus or Olberic.

Tressa is my "guest slot", I replace her with whoever's turn to do their chapter it is. Like Therion, she exists as a supportive role and spends her turns saving up BP to gift to Olberic, giving SP to party members and then resting up, and to lower enemy guard.

This comp covers every single attack and magic type, however I feel as though better compositions exist.

Now Olberic has Eye for an Eye I feel as if he doesn't need to be Dancer, but given he's such a heavy hitter if I gave him the apothecary role (therefore giving Therion the Dancer role) he would never use those healing and debuffing skills.

>>15147468

Congrats to them on making a game that looks worse than your average Saturn game. Really quite an achievement.

>>15147529

Finally a reason to dust off my switch and start to learn how to crack it. Good to know.

>>15161470

I've not played the game: the post.

A more legitimate complaint would be an over-reliance on bloom. But to say it looks bad really doesn't hold any weight, it looks great in motion.

>>15159487

>>15159517

You realize Theresa did that because she wanted his D, right, and Cyrus is completely oblivious to it.

>>15158014

You should go back there.

>>15160701

I'm hoping I can give her a secondary job that will make her passable, maybe by turning her into a dancer and making her a slut I'll be able to enjoy the cleric.

>>15147468

It's really really really basic as far as JRPGs go.

>bravely default with a twist

>good jrpg

no

>>15161405

I've not had a chance to test it yet, but I was thinking of giving Therion the Scholar as a 2nd job, scholars main weakness in my eyes seems to be running out of SP, that way I could easily just use thief to steal SP directly, it would also buff his thief single target spell.

>>15162481

SP isn't a problem if you have the Dancer skill Second Wind (regen SP each turn) and use Tressa as an SP slave (regen SP, gift SP). Failing that items are easy enough to get.

test

>>15147468

Does she really say it like that in japanese or did the localisation team go

>Hey, remember how Edea was too retarded to growl like a normal human being on Bravely Default? Let's make Tressa do the same XD

>>15162409

>>15162296

Ignore the shills, pretty much everyone on this site realizes this. Octoshit BTFO again.

>>15162494

yeah, fucking kike shills, all over. Why can't they play more BASED games?

Amirite fellow gaymer?

>>15162488

I forgot too, merchant has a skill called SP saver that unlocks after buying up all but one skill.

It halfs the required SP, so Cyrus being a Merchant (or Tressa being a Sage) means 11SP two hit AoE spells.

>>15162517

Oh heck that's real nice, something I've been thinking, can I unlock passive skills for a class then switch and keep the passive?

>>15162534

>>15162525

There we go, I just tried it out.

You can unlock support skills from classes and keep them equip even after changing secondary job.

Your secondary job purely affects the secondary set of skills you can have in battle.

Also since JP is character bound and not job bound, you can simply switch to another job, buy out skills in that to earn support skills and then switch back.

Boring and generic

>>15161680

>it looks great in motion.

I've seen the videos. It does not look great.

After playing the demo and enjoying it (went Scholar) I want to play more but can't justify the price at the moment.

What I'd also like to see is more fucking ports. I know it's a joke on Switch at the moment, but the Bravely games could do with a nice budget remix, though it might be difficult since many assets were hand-drawn for the 3DS and they would look like shit blown-up for HD.

And the fact that 8T has beaten Bravely 1's launch numbers, and SE was dumbfounded by that game's success since it was so "traditional" and not the cluster-fuck that is modern FF, I hope we might see some more traditional JRPGRGs in the future.

>>15162737

> I want to play more but can't justify the price at the moment.

well that's good cause amazon is backstocked 2 fucking months for it, and people are going nuts for it localy

>>15162775

I prefer to buy handheld games digitally anyway, since it means I don't have to carry carts to swap games, or lose them when traveling.

Still, the physical shortages can only send good signals to SE that lost money hand-over-fist with their FFXIV and then FFXV debacles.

>PCs are little faggots with shitty art

>Bosses as big beautiful chads with some effort in their pixels

>he says it's good

Shitty design is shitty.

>>15147468

It definitely feels like the old Squaresoft games. I also like how the dev team is not interested in making a numbered ongoing IP they just want to wack out original games.

>>15162602

Nice.

>game is amazing

>but exclusive to one console

>"F-FUCKING SHIT GAME RIGHT FELLOW CHANNERS, SHILLS ETERNALLY BTFO"

Its the release of Bloodborne all over again.

>>15163027

Yeah and Nintendo did not fund this game like Sony did with Bloodborne. It will turn up on other systems over time. Fuckers need to chill.

>>15160184

>2018's No Man's Sky, without a doubt.

Imagine actually thinking this

>>15162692

>I, random anon who claims to have watched videos of the gameplay in action are arguing about the graphics of the game with anons that actually have the game up and are playing it right now

>Despite not having played the game, and my argument of having it look worse than Saturn games, I am somehow retarded enough to think this argument will hold up weight against people who are actively playing the game on a second screen right next to this one

Fuck off, you've probably not even seen any videos. I've put 30 hours into it and it looks great. The fact that you claim it looks worse than a Saturn game when it has shit like beautiful water effects highlights you've never even played or looked into this.

>>15163387

The few seconds I saw with the Bazinga translation looked kind of ugly.

>>15161680

Lad it looks like a fucking Minecraft mod. To have such ugly in-game visuals and art direction when they had such gorgeous concept art is a fucking travesty.

>>15163494

It looks ugly you stupid nigger, you even said so yourself why it looks ugly you stupid fuck.

>>15163494

>needing to play a game to tell that it looks ugly

What, are the videos somehow showcasing a different game? What about the trailers? Even if they are, that means they're shit at advertising.

>>15163575

The game looks butt-fucking-ugly due to the bloom and I am not impressed. The artstyle is one of its issues which is why I bothered to bitch about it. You sound triggered that someone even bothered critiquing it.

>>15163083

>>15163027

Even so, please report the fanboys.

>>15163658

>report differing opinions

You and fuck off too, you want this place to actually turn into cuckchan where we all hivemind? Or even so, Reddit?

If you can't handle people having opinions and backing up their opinions why are you even on imageboards to begin with?

>>15163649

I played the demo, and the bloom and such is a problem

The game could look very nice but is ruined by the effects that make it look like I'm playing it on a crt TV

All they had to do is cut down on the effects and it would help a lot for the visuals, I don't think its ugly but it's a glaring problem from the moment you boot it up

>>15161060

too much incest not enough straight shota with nia

>>15163672

>report differing opinions

I never said that, I mean the bloodborne tier fanboys

>>15147468

Is there no way to adjust the visuals in-game? Something about the bloom has bothered me since the game was first revealed

>>15163649

>>15163575

Nowadays, it takes quite a bit to make me get out and actively seek a game. I play a shit ton of games, but they're all old, as I'm making my way through rompacks of consoles I've skipped.

I loved Spyro, for example. But I look at the remake, I see the cluttered graphics, I see the unnecessary changes, I see the shit desaturated colors and I don't want to play, simple as that. Same with this. I enjoy JRPGs from time to time, but I'm not crazy about this. Octopath seemed like it could be a fun game, but the desaturated colors, nu-lighting and bloom are disgusting and turn me off immediately from giving it a shot, until perhaps piracy, if I'm bored.

Game now sold out in

>America

>Japan

>France

>Germany

>Singapore

>Spain

>Blegium

>Finland

>South Korea

>Italy

>Denmark

With amazon now putting people on a 2 month waiting list.

I was expecting this to be niche as shit and forgotten but these are sales any dev would kill for. Depending on size of budget i wonder if this will be more profitable than FFXV, i hope it is.

>>15160715

It stuns them 2 turns still however it counts the turn you are on. You only double fuck them if they go after the breaker. Depending on your strategy and the speed of your breaking characters it is easy to get into a groove of 1 enemy action for every 3 of your own.

>>15163658

You've revealed yourself as being mentally retarded. If anyone is going to end up being banned, it's you.

>>15163966

>your game is floppin

>Sold double bravely defaults lifetime sales in a weekend

>Sold out and on 2 month back order in most of the 1st world

>[various 4chan buzzwords displaying impotent rage at a videogame being good]

This really IS bloodborne again. The sour grapes are legit.

>>15164014

>if i stay buttmad long enough my console war bullshit will somehow rewrite reality and make the game a flop!

I never understand your kind with Bloodborne, i don't understand it now. You sound like a delusional sociopath.

>>15163680

Sounds better than most CRT filters

>>15163942

Damn, what a fucking flop. When will Cucktendo faggot retard bing bing wahoo pixelshit shill reddit soyboys ever recover?

>>15163896

jesus tap dancing christ do you not know how rebuttal and argument works. Here let me help you out you can take credit for this rebuttal because apparently you lack the brain cells necessary to make one.

>>15163575

>Water flows and glistens, sand sparkles as you move, snow falls in tundra. The lighting beautifully seeps in, casting shadows against the characters and environment as grass and trees blow in the air. Sprites are fluid both in and out of combat, and the stage in which they battled on is wonderfully detailed as it slowly pans to provide different perspectives.

This is to be expected for an 8th generation console. FF6 had the same thing for the snes. Overuse of bloom is the least of the problems of this game. Likewise a unique artstyle sometimes highlights the flaws of the games, consider the human bosses, they stand out like giants compared to your PC's, likewise the voice actors are all over the place, half spoken lines and repeated phrases are jarring and uncomfortable.

The lack of character development between your PC's is disappointing. An entire party that does not interact makes the game feel unfinished.

Overall a part of me fears this is a calculated cash grab by square enix playing on gamers feeling of nostalgia.

:im just playing devil's advocate, i enjo the game and the music immensely, though i will stand by everything i pointed out.:

>>15163387

>The fact that you claim it looks worse than a Saturn game

I didn't claim that it looked worse than a Saturn game, faggot.

>when it has shit like beautiful water effects highlights you've never even played or looked into this.

When you mix 16 bit style sprites with massive amounts of bloom, filters, and fluid effects that looks terrible.

I'd play this if it didn't look so goddamn disgusting. Why did they have to do this?

Is there any way of turning off all this moronic post-processing?

>>15164215

I think the only thing we can do is email and message the developers, asking for them to make this a toggleable option in a patch or something.

How much pozz is there in the plot/story ?

>>15156199

It's a mistranslation of how the Japanese name was supposed to be pronounced (which happens frequently), not a deliberate choice. The name is actually Exodus ('ekso-dessu'), which got misinterpreted as X-Death.

>>15164215

my honest theory is higher ups went 'oh no dis rook too much rike grandia, das old, kids don rike old!"

>>15164229

It may be, but the game actually does look like this.

>>15164229

Seems like a cropped image to me, though I think it's from the game itself, not form a TV.

This >>15164169 is defintely a picture from the game itself, and it looks exactly the same.

>>15153158

Zelda

Mayrio Odyssey

Splatoon 2 (although I got bored with it early)

ARMS is very good conceptually, but it's barren in terms of content

MK8Deluxe (if you haven't owned a Wii U)

Donkey Kang Tropical Freeze (if you haven't owned a Wii U), seriously, get it

Bayo2 (if you haven't owned a Wii U) and eventualy 3

Smash 5 (if you haven't owned a Wii U, since it's more of an enhanced port although not quite)

Maybe Capn Toad if you've got money to spare and didn't have a Wii U, but that's hardly a killer game.

I'd recommend Xenoblade 2, but only if you were a huge fan of 1 and want to see some expansion to the universe. Otherwise it turned out to be very disappointing (although playable if you haven't played 1).

Eventual Metroid Prime 4, Yoshi and No More Heroes 3.

That said, if Nintendo games (or indies on the go) ain't your thing—don't get a Switch.

Sage for off-topic.

>>15164297

It's kind of silly to say "Nintendo games", sounds like something a stereotypical mother would say when referring to vidya in general.

I like Nintendo games, in general. However, half of that list I don't care for. Specifically, I haven't liked Zelda since MM, don't care for any of the online games on there, and have no interest in Metroid Prime, Yoshi or No More Heroes.

I get what you mean, but still, it's silly to pretend that if you like one Nintendo game, you'll like them all.

>>15164314

I see what you mean, but you can't deny there is certain design sensibilities and a certain market'target audience associated more with Nintendo.

Maybe there is a better word for it, but as an umbrella term it'll do, albeit it sounds a bit derisive.

BotW is probably the freshest Zelda since Majora's Mask, but I imagine it to be very devisive for good reason, so I suggest you try it out somehow first (like Wii U emulation).

>>15164332

I guess "for everyone" is probably the general term. The problem is that, outside of Nintendo and indies, the only games that fit that mold nowadays are movie licensed games, and the occasional accident, like the Spyro and Crash remakes.

I did try BotW, and I liked it for the first five hours, but then it went quite downhill. I just never enjoyed open world games, and while it's better than most, it would still have been far better with a much smaller map.

Tried the demo. Started with Cyrus and went to Tressa. Both excellent characters IMO. And good english voice actors, while some of them can be dire Cyrus was gloriously gung-ho and camp. Tressa's innocence and wanderlust is great (though I am surprised you don't play as the other Merchant you meet in her chapter- Tressa has more heart). Considering I played the knight in the first demo and felt he was painfully generic, I'm pleasantly surprised.

> 3 hour demo is not enough. At least 30 mins per character origin chapter is spent talking, if not more. I did get into combat faster with Tressa than with Cyrus though. But by the time I did, I had an hour left. After finishing everything up, and I finished both Cyrus and Tressa's Chapter 1 quests, I had less than 10 mins left.

> No run toggle or auto-scroll options. You'll be holding down B and hammering A a lot.

> Distance blur and sparkle effects look great (especially on distant waves) for the Switch. Oddly enough at times those effects almost seemed to be at 60FPS while everything else is at 30. Probably a trick of the light or something. Bloom and shadows can be borked as you have all said. Harsh shadows on the corners of sprites can be toggled off, but I've not experimented yet. But it wasn't as bad as with Oberon's dungeon in the original demo.

> Water looks great in the port area. Bushes even rustle in the breeze, but the pixilated edges can make it hit or miss (which is recurring with the graphics a whole)

> Some key scenes don't have full VA work, when I felt they should have. Most VAs are good. Then I met a Canadian accent'd women in a sea-side town.

> The battle VA lines are very limited, with only one or two variations for attacks and situations. It'll grate fast.

> Music sounds great, nothing particularly memorable, but it does the job well.

> If you open a chest, then go back to another character's chapter 1, it will still be looted. You never miss out on equipment or healing items though, since the character joins your party just before they'd go into the dungeon.

> You can get junk to sell, but they're often worth pittance. Like 15 or 20 bucks when grinding enemies gives you more. In fact, Tressa can often buy this junk for more than its selling price.

> You can get fast-travel once you are outside of certain quests, which is a god-send once you have a new person to use their skill in that town (and probably will end up completing side-quests to boot).

> Cyrus' Scrutinize ability feels pointless when most people you do it to don't give shit. At least with Tressa everyone has something to sell (or maybe that's just in her and Cyrus' starting town)

> The game is a bit easy while you have one character. It seems the best thing to do for the first dungeon is get the best weapon you can to get extra EXP/JP for one turn kills and Unscathed bonuses (like in Bravely Default).

>>15164560

> When you get your second character, it does get only a tad easier- at least in my case. Seems people close to each other have weapons and elemental magic that bosses are weak to. I.e. Cyrus' boss was weak to Wind magic which Tressa had, and Tressa's boss was weak to fire and lightning which Cyrus had.

> Tressa and Cyrus might be broken to pick early on. Tressa keeps getting money in each new area she explores, plus she can get items for cheaper than in the shops from NPCs. Cyrus learns a new enemy weakness each time he encounters them, and has a variety of elemental magic to boot.

> Tressa's story makes no sense at the end. I'd have thought she'd have asked to journey with the merchant, rather than take the trinket she did. Read about the world vs. the chance to explore it. Sure she wouldn't be with the rest of the party then, and that's why. But it surprises me she didn't at least ask.

I'll test out other characters tomorrow, but the criticisms are true.

The art-style can be hit or miss, and they should have gone for line-art in the art-style of the old sprites. Instead the jagged edges and lack of animation can be off-putting.

It can have too much talking, and it's a cake-walk early on. Not to mention the premise holds it back. But the gimmick of starting anywhere is tantalizing as a marketing technique. I'd need the full game to see if it gets too easy with 8 "chapter 1" dungeons to do. In fact, it feels like you almost shouldn't get everyone if you don't want to over-level, maybe it's just me.

I also heard from a friend the party doesn't actually interact with each other. No conversations of what they just went though, or bouncing off one another (which is interesting since allegedly four of the character's field abilities mirror the other fours, but as evil/good). Basically, there's no real narrative reason, or anything offered in the gameplay that says they shouldn't have just started with one character, and slowly added more people to the party and had progressively more difficult dungeons like a normal RPG It'd been fine starting with Tressa, then she decides to let everyone she meets add their story to her book.

I think the main issue it's a normal turn-based JRPG. We know of better games like that of old and even recently. It's Bravely Default except you can't go into negatives with your BP, and a "HD Retro" coat of paint which is no where near as bad as when western indies do it since the sprites actually look like what they're aping, but still has issues.

I'd enjoy playing this, but unless you fell in love with the demo, I think it's fine to wait for a sale, follow the Monkey Island rule which is currently at $37.36, or just pirate and see.

I should make a Tressa folder with cute Tressas and Tressa reaction pics. Post moar Tressa.

>>15164297

>>15164332

>recommending BOTW

it's an open world game, not a Zelda game and it's not even a decent one at that, aside from the physics fuckery

>>15164297

>>15153158

Not entirely exclusives but it has a non f2p version of Spelunker World and a version of Dragon Quest Builders with bonus micro pixel blocks.

>>15164348

>a much smaller map.

The real problem with open-world games is that you don't get gud level design in areas of interest, because you can't anticipate where the player's going to come from without making it impossible to access from certain angles. But then you run the risk of it being hard to find or even ignored because you put what looked like a roadblock in an open-world game, and the player just wandered off to find something else to look at.

>>15160184

Do you even know what No Man's Sky is?

>>15165377

BOTW is boring as fuck and in my OPINION the worst main entry ever but it is a Zelda game even if you like it or not. Get over yourself you don't decide what a Zelda game is Nintendo does.

>>15160184

Most people on this board like it. Stay mad faggot.

>>15159687

>>15160262

>2018

>still not learning japanese

You guys aren't even trying at this point, why cling to a sinking ship?

>>15164564

>I'd need the full game to see if it gets too easy with 8 "chapter 1" dungeons to do.

I'd say the xp curve is about right? I unlocked everyone and did all their chapter 1 dungeons, and I was 1 level under the recommended? I'd say probably the earliest I felt as though I could break into chapter 2 would have been at 6 heroes, this being with 4-5 optional dungeons/bosses, it would have been a tough fight, but doable.

Although it seems to depend on which character you pick, Olberic and H'annit's chapter 2's are recommended level 27 whereas the thief's is recommended level 22, but I'm lv24 right now after finishing Tressa and Cyrus's chapter 2.

I've found comboing the Hunter with the Apothecary as a secondary job to be really strong with the hunters natural crit, natural phys damage + last stand, with the thief providing debuffs and the dancer providing buffs and so most bosses are becoming somewhat easy when I'm dishing out 8k damage a turn, although I did get a game over pretty swiftly when I failed to manage a fight well. Ideally I need to pick up a cleric subclass for someone, either Tressa or Primrose I think to be able to manage my teams health properly. Or perhaps pick up warrior to take aggro off the hunter when she's low hp, there's so many different ways to go about it I feel spoilt for choice.

Tressa as a thief subclass looks really cute.

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>>15164560

Nice damage control. The game looks like shit, plays like shit, and is shit. End of fucking story.

>>15165096

Any Tressa lewds out there yet?

I'm 30 or so hours in, and I, for the first time in a JRPG, feel like levelling every character up as evenly as possible. Primrose is the exception, as she's my protagonist and can't be removed, but the characters are great so far.

>>15149410

Was this game made specifically for autistic people? Th voice acting is killing me.

>>15167206

I shut it off. It sucked.

>>15167214

Good

Tressa is pure and not for lewds but for hugs and cuddling only

>>15164060

>it sells well so it must be good

You must love Justin Bieber, anon.

>>15167701

I haven't played it, so I can't really judge whether it's good or bad, but to say it's a flop is an outright lie.

I'm actually kinda surprised it did so well, though. When this got talked about at E3, no one cared about it.

>>15167712

What makes you think I'm mad? What am I supposed to be mad about?

>>15167721

It's obviously not a flop if it's sold out everywhere. But the idea that something is good because it sells a lot is really fucking retarded.

>>15167694

I'm not too fond of the post-process heavy style of the look of the game. I think it would look much nicer with just properly toned lighting, properly toned art assets, and much less visual clutter getting in the way. That said it's not awful, just a bit overdone for my tastes.

>>15167727

Now that's 100% true, I'm definitely not debating that. It looks decent enough. I don't think the artstyle is as ugly as everyone is saying it is, but it's kind of hard on the eyes in some of these screenshots.

Either way I'll probably wait a little longer to judge if this is a game I should play or not. The voice acting sucks, but that's normal for games like this nowadays.

>>15167721

I'm a bit confused by that as well. Are there hard numbers about how many physical cartridges were made? And is it possible to get digital download copies?

>>15167727

>It's obviously not a flop if it's sold out everywhere

Well we can't really say one way or the other of how successful it is since we don't know how many carts were printed.

>>15167730

They should have just used a HD Crystal Chronicles type style instead of the weird half 3D, half sprite thing they went with.

What gets me is Square Enix shocked that a Square Soft style game is selling well. Square Enix have their head so far rammed up the open world ass they have lost touch with what their fans actually want.

I've had a hard time getting into JRPGs since 16 bit era bit era but I'm really loving this game. Sunk 5 hours into it so far and have only played the first chapters of Tressa and Primrose. Only fight I struggled with was the first boss fight with Tressa so that's been all progress. Hopefully means I'll get a lot of playtime out of this.

>>15167852

There's a big difference in how those games approached sprites in a 3D environment and how Octopath does. It just looks off to me. It clashes. Maybe if OT only did the "pixel art Paper Mario" thing and didn't have all the HD shit and filters and bloom I would be able to get use to it. I don't know.

I don't suppose there are any settings that allow you to turn the effects off, are there?

>>15167992

>I don't suppose there are any settings that allow you to turn the effects off, are there?

Mods will fix it :^(

Tips about secondary jobs i've found that would have been helpful going into it.

>Secondary jobs are restricted to one per character, no two can share the same secondary job

>They are not a permanent decision and can be freely changed at any point out of combat

>Support skills earned from other jobs are not tied to that job, and therefore you can invest in certain jobs, equip the support skills and never touch that job again

>JP is character bound, not job bound. You can level into jobs and gain their support skills without ever using them in battle.

>Secondary jobs give boosts to stats such as HP, max SP, Strength, Speed and Crit

>The best secondary job for Olberic is to have him as a Merchant, while benefiting from the Dancer support skill Eye for an Eye (50% to counterattack - Combine with Incite, also useful for 1v1 challenges) and the Scholar support skill Vim and Vigor (HP regeneration each turn). The Dancer support skill Second Wind (SP regeneration each turn) is a nice optional extra, but not necessary. The Hunter support skill Patience (chance to go again at end of turn) is also very useful, but depending on your build not necessary.

>This allows Olberic to recover his own HP, SP and cure status ailments for 0SP using the Merchant skill Rest, extremely useful as a tank skill. Also Sidestep (dodge a single physical attack with a 100% success rate) useful for certain nasty solo target boss skills.

>Any character using SP intensive moves of any sort (ie. Cyrus or other heavy AoE hitters) needs to max out Merchant for the support skill SP Saver (halves SP consumption). They may also benefit from the Dancer skill Second Wind (SP regeneration each turn) depending on how often you're running low on SP.

>Tressa looks cute in any secondary job outfit, although especially cute as a Thief as if you use the move Steal she'll shout "Sorry!"

>>15167862

They don't seem to even grasp that's the reason why Dragon Quest games are becoming more popular in the west, despite censorship and ridiculous accents, and Final Fantasy is being more and more spurned.

>>15156199

I know it came out on PSX. We were talking about the SFC/ SNES original versions you fucking retard. 空気を読みなさいよ。

>>15164222

It's actually 'ekusudesu' (エクスデス), but I agree it should be Exodus since "X" would be 'ekkusu' （エックス） and X-death sounds dumb anyways

was lost sphear or setsuna any good?

>>15172207

nooooo

>>15172327

elaborate? i remember i looked heavily into setsuna but ended up nixing the game but completely forgot why.

>>15172244

>the men who stare at walls

>>15172327

was the secret of mana remake any good?

>>15172354

remember in the ps2 era every company and their dog shat out a by the numbers jrpg that was white noise bland and without any creative merit?

thats them. there are better rpg maker games.

>>15167206

J"RPG"s in general are made for autistic Japanese.

>>15151173

Any, simply making a game's systems more complex doesn't necessarily make them any less simple to break. In fact, increasing the complexity without careful consideration of balance usually leads to an even greater number of simple ways to break a game.

>>15150872

Dragon Quest 8 for the 3DS censored content that was in the original release, despite having the same age rating.

>>15150225

>Are you fucking trying to tell me there's some logic to what element two drunk pirates would be weak to?

Duh. Pirates are ocean/evil monsters. They're weak to electricity and holy.

>>15152473

Well the game is dual audio and an alleged nip speaking anon says the translation is mostly made up bullshit.

>>15161880

>cuckchan hasn't even listed paper mario TTYD on there

That's a J"RPG" anon.

>>15163494

>>15163575

>>15163649

You have to be the most retarded faggot ever. How can you not comprehend that the way a game looks can be determined from watching it without playing it?

>>15163942

>Undersupply copies

>Sells out everywhere

>Use selling out as a mark of success

The true Nintendo strategy.

>>15172570

Original was better in every way.