/v/ - Video Games

A real shame how Sony has treated it, a game they never bothered to promote, didn't even show it's E3 trailer at E3, and sneaked onto store shelves to be ignored. Kat's game is going to go down as a classic, a really wonderful experience and I hope for its own future it gets one last patch to allow the players to unlock the dusty token content offline. Even if it's small side stuff, it's still important and part of what made the whole game something truly outstanding.

Fuck, I've been putting this off and still haven't beaten the first one.

I mean, hey, what people say about always-online games also applies to offline games that have online functions, too. Any portion of a game connected to a central server will eventually be shut down. It's a big problem when always-online games are killed off, but I feel as though it's just as much of an injustice when just the online portion of an offline game is killed off.

Gravity Rush was a great game. Gravity Rush 2 sucked pretty bad. The Jirga Para Lhao plotline was total garbage and by the time I got back to Hekseville I didn't even care anymore. The side quests were ass, level up progression is ass, mining is uneventful grindy garbage and I'm pretty sure there's only 1 boss Nevi that you can see mining.

Gravity Rush 2 deserves to die, it's just sad it will bring Kat down with it. All GR needed was a conclusion to the plot of the original game. Fuck Jirga Para Lhao and everything associated.

Hopefully the whole franchise becomes completely forgotten by everyone just like it deserves.

Anyone know if there's a particular refresh rate/maximum amount of treasure hints you can get within [X amount of time]? Just something I've been curious about, as usually I'd just get a string of four or so at a time, before not getting anything but challenges for maybe twelve hours.

>>15135957

I'd been getting sidetracked with getting through the first game myself. Thankfully I did manage to get through it, and partway into the second half of the second game before going out of town. Finished getting all the Dusty Token rewards about an hour before I left home Monday before last. Still going to have three days when I get back to finish trying to get all the furniture. Probably going to have even more tokens when I get back, assuming my treasure clues managed to get to anyone. I'd been working those for like two weeks straight (some being my own random chest finds, even), and only on the last day or so did I start seeing any messages that another player had used my images to find stuff. Makes me wonder if there's a backlog of those that it has that sort of turn around, or if my server is just that sparse these days.

>>15135950

>A real shame how Sony has treated it, a game they never bothered to promote, didn't even show it's E3 trailer at E3, and sneaked onto store shelves to be ignored.

Sony is pretty stupid, really. Even if some games are niche, if they own the rights to them, you'd think they'd want to be able to at least get their bang for their buck investment-wise. Instead, they have a tendency to drop series (possible series, in some cases) after a generation, if not a single game or two and proceed to do fuck all with them, and have even taken to dumping things that should have remained exclusive (if you own a line of systems, and a set of games, why wouldn't you want to keep them exclusive?) into mobile hell like they're just not worthy of Sony's own systems anymore. And then with Gravity Rush there's both the factor that Sony couldn't be fucked to give the remaster a decent print size (out here anyhow), and then tried to shut off the servers for Gravity Rush 2 after only about a year, as if to say they've had that little faith in it.

>I hope for its own future it gets one last patch to allow the players to unlock the dusty token content offline.

Would be nice, but that would require effort that Sony may not want to clear the studio to do. I was personally hoping maybe in the future a sort of "NG+" with all the tokens on a save file could be shared around (assuming CFW for PS4s can get around save file locks like the PS3), but I've heard that there's no NG+ plus mode anyhow, so sharing a file with all the tokens wouldn't help anyone new playing.

>Even if it's small side stuff, it's still important and part of what made the whole game something truly outstanding.

Agreed, though I'll admit my own experience has been limited since I just got into the games recently. But I really wish that predominantly single player games would stop having content that one could say goes towards one-hundred percenting tethered to a server being available. Also don't really get why they had costumes tied to it, Namely because Kat's other clothes from GR1 can be carried over as save bonuses, though admittedly those ones were from former DLC. Also, why wouldn't Kat keep the "Work Clothes" on her own? Even if she prefers the Shifter style ones, they struck me as comfy "off the clock" wear more than something she'd want to throw out the moment she got another option. Relegating them to a Dusty Token reward just seems a bit odd from that perspective (obviously they wanted to give some incentives to doing the online, but still).

At least you can still find treasure chests on your own, rare though they might be. Though, Ive seen it debated whether or not those will still be around once the servers are dead. Best tell might be for someone to see how they handle (if they handle) with their PS4's internet disconncted.

More like Gravity Trash lololol

>>15136491

I agree, I don't think the GR2 servers are particularly demanding or expensive, and with the PS4 having so many successes - I think it's not even a question to fund smaller games with that success, guaranteeing support for older ones going forward. I'm not opposed to franchises being "dropped" as in no more games being made in that franchise, I sort of follow the Treasure design philosophy of don't do sequels, explore everything fully in the idea before moving on - and I think it would benefit the industry if everyone followed that idea.

I think Sony is making a massive mistake by not embracing their Japanese games and studios more closely as the trends are showing that not just SP games, but Japanese SP games are on a massive upswing, with things like all the Yakuza games obliterating expectations.

As for why Kat wouldn't just keep things like the work clothes, it might honestly just be a matter of a lack of time. They probably wanted to make totally unique outfits for every dusty token reward but lacking time they just recycled content. I personally find that unlocking nipples to be something that should be unlocked. More reward once you realize what was gone.

>>15136547

>I agree, I don't think the GR2 servers are particularly demanding or expensive

They're probably all run of Tim the intern's laptop which they confiscated from him and used as a GR2 server as a joke, but now he actually needs to get some work done so they have to give it back.

>>15136231

Nice hyperbole. If you'd said that GR1 is more consistently good then I would have agreed, but don't see how it's possible to hate one and love the other, they're very similar at the end of the day.

I don't think the problem with GR2 lies with JPL, precisely, personally, I thought the marketplace area was one of the best in the game. Rather it's that there was never supposed to be a GR2 in the first place; the first game was rushed out to meet the Vita's release, which forced a lot of content to be cut or reworked. There was supposed to be another city after Hekseville which can be still be seen above Neu Hiraleon, and you were obviously supposed to receive the panther power in the penultimate mission. If that final city was Eto where the loose threads would be tied up that doesn't leave enough content on its own for a GR2, which is why I think we got Jirga Para Lhao. Then there's also the fact that the developers clearly felt pressured to add a lot more content for a big budget console release, there's probably as many good missions in GR2 as there are in 1, but there are so many more that are simply tedious. I'm still not sure if it's strictly a matter of quality either, GR2 is filled with detail and charm, but it outstays its welcome, 40 hours is way too long for an action platformer.

If not caring once you reached Hekseville means that you didn't finish the game then you should definitely go back to it. I was also feeling burnt out by the end, but both the Hekseville ending and epilogue are absolutely phenomenal. They reach heights that the first game couldn't have dreamt of, making the issue of which game is better a lot more complicated.

>>15136724

>>15136596

this isn't the thread for console wars.

>>15136726

Console war is the natural argument about pros and cons of different platforms.

You can easily tell pozzed board apart if it has "no console wars" rule.

Oh wait.

>>15136731

there's other threads for you to take that discussion to.

>>15136740

>muh safe space echo chamber

You're the part of the problem.

>>15136726

>Soyknee shitting all over their Japanese developed games from The Last Guardian to the recently forgotten Shadow of the Colossus Remake to cater to the cancerous "Cinematic" garbage

>No Console Wars please!

You are one fucking faggot.

Omega Labrynth Z localization was murdered by Soy as well. So no surprise Sony is pulling support for single player Japaness games now. Shame I'll have to miss out on Kat's game, but I can't support buying a new PS4 Pro from Sony. I'll have to wait until PS5 before I can get a Pro used.

>>15136780

>Omega Labrynth Z localization was murdered by Soy

still pissed about that.

>>15136785

>>15136780

Yeah, that set an incredibly nasty precedent. It's the first step in a chain reaction that will lead to Japan just not making games like OLZ anymore. If console manufacturers feel emboldened to block games that offend SJWs, the Japanese devs looking to hit it big in the west will just stop making those kind of games, and even importing won't save us when there's nothing to import. I'm sure a bunch of goons will see this post and cry about slippery slopes, but they said the same thing about horse armor, Bravely Default's censorship, and 90 other things that turned out exactly as we feared, so fuck them.

As for the original subject of the thread, the precedent of single player games getting fucked over by online shit is nothing new. Future generations will despise emulating games from the PS3 and onwards because they won't get to play it with the game's full functionality. For example, Dragon's Crown will lose the ability to go online someday, and retro gamers of the future will never know the simple joys of slaughtering a killer rabbit with random people you might never see again when you head back to town.

>can't play it without extreme motion sickness

>no other game causes this

feels bad man

>>15137110

Forgot to add that there are plenty of collections on the internet for the spawn points of the chests to help reduce the offline grinding if you want the 'soft' locked items.

>>15136001

>>15137110

>>15135916

Can't someone upload a save file with all the online items already bought?

Second kat is too old and ape escape will be preferable to Gravitational Dizziness: The Perturbation of Her Inner Space Caused by the Repatriation of the Upper Stratum.

>>15137379

Unrelated to save modifying, you can also play as Raven through an exploit. She's not as fleshed out as Kat but the option is really cool.

>>15137379

>Epilogue Kat

That's cool, are you restricted to the dainty tiptoe?

>>15137370

>Yeah, you can modify your save file and unlock everything, but where's the fun in that?

Once you 100%d everything and there's only online-only content that you couldn't possibly reach otherwise.

I can't find videos of Kat speaking her cute funny language.

Gravity Rush 2 is my favorite game in about a decade, followed by the first one. But I'm too much of a shitter to actually beat the mine. Doesn't help that I can only try like twice a day. I really wish all the online content wasn't even there. Sharing photos is nice, but getting points for them doesn't need to be online. Challenging other players is nice, but you should be able to get tokens just by beating certain times. I figure at least I can still try the mines after the servers go down, and the only online stuff I ever find down there is my own stuff from the last time I died anyway. But I wish I could just retry as much as I wanted.

Still, all that is basically endgame stuff anyway. The actual game is single player and great. It just gets dragged down a bit by online stuff. I don't get people saying it's not as good as the first, either. More content isn't bad. I liked the expanded upgrade system, even though the talismans aren't really something I ever felt I had to pay attention to. I liked how JPL was arranged more vertically. The only part I thought dragged was the ending, which the rest of you seem to like. The story is neat and everything but I felt the parts where you're just walking around the castle and not doing actual gameplay went on way too long.

The main thing I like about this series though is that it's one of the only modern games that seems to realize that movement itself should be fun. Far too many modern games forget that. Just moving around here, even with nothing to do, is a lot of fun. If the game was nothing but a scavenger hunt for gems scattered around the place, it would still be fun. And of course that aspect is there, but there's a lot more on top of it.

>>15137407

>implying I should have to choose between Gravity Rush and Ape Escape

Why not both? And while we're at it, I want another Tearaway. I never hear anyone talk about that but it's the only other good PS4 exclusive.

I platinumed the first Gravity Rush wish is something I rarely do because I don't give a fuck about achievements but wanted to play the game longer. I can't even bring myself to finish 2. I checked a guide and I'm approx. 2/3 through and I just don't give a fuck anymore. Pretty shitty they'd disable the online servers for it. I doubt it's such a pull on their resources that keeping the online running actually matters and they're just shit eating kikes that want you to buy the next first party piece of shit. GR2 was the last game I've bought for PS4 and I don't see myself buying anything else from these mongrels.

>wanted to try kat's game

>realize i'd be getting a 400$ video game machine from a shitty company for the purpose of playing 2 games that they both forgot and show zero love to

>there's a slim to none chance that it'll ever get a PC port

>there's practically 0 exclusives worth getting on the ps4 aside from kat's game and maybe walking stranding (whenever that comes out)

>>15138111

I told you. I don't care anymore. By the time I got the first set of credits I didn't even care about going around and doing the last side quests and talking to everyone.

It's dead and I'm glad

>>15136743

No u.

>>15139903

>not liking the fun movement mechanics

I bet the games you like are shit.

>>15139903

This thread has been up less than a day, how much could you possibly have played?

Stick with it until you reach Jirga Para Lhao, if you still don't like the game at all then fair enough, it's not for you.

>>15136001

>Both games are still fantastic experiences

Damn shame. I was looking for fantastic games. Pass on these two.

>>15140233

These aren't anything close to movie games. That's why Sony didn't bother to promote them. It's all about the gameplay, which casuals don't care about anymore.

>>15139117

>Death Stranding

>Worth it

Gravity Rush might be a painfully average duology of games but at least it will be 10 times better than anything Cuckjima is making with current year Sony.

>>15141064

Kat is top tier waifu and I will miss her, but I hope we get more games with this gameplay regardless of what the story and characters are.

>>15141072

I kinda doubt we will? I feel like a few games sort of explored the floating islands concepts but none did it as intimately as gravity rush all while maintaining a sense of speed and freedom. Gravity Rush is a game which at times evokes the care free feel of the Mega Man Legends games and Tail Concerto and doesn't hesitate to lay around little details in the world which end up evoking imagery that wouldn't be alien to Silent Hill (which was one Toyama's games before getting picked up by Sony)

In some sense I'm happy that this type of game is also one of the best of its kind. Gravity Rush is a truly unique experience and the sequel alone was a miracle that never should have happened. Also if you missed out on some of the imagery around the locales in Gravity Rush, take a closer look at some of the monitors, the signage, statues, etc. There's a surprising amount of environmental story telling at work there.

>>15141092

I noticed that they used the same "Hope" posters for the dictator in 1 as the Obama campaign which was taken from somewhere that I don't remember. I found it incredibly amusing,

>>15141114

I missed that but that's pretty damn funny. I'm talking more in terms of antlers and statues, but I can appreciate that.

>>15141126

There's a remarkable amount of detail put into the world, including some timed events most players probably miss.

Pleajune has a fireworks show every night at 9:00pm, and a mechanical goat comes out of the clock in the JPL market place on every hour.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are more, but those are the ones I've seen.

>>15141064

I wouldn't mind if Kat still showed up in crossovers, as long as the cameo itself and the game aren't bad

>>15142697

>PS All-Stars 2 never ever

I just want Sony to do it properly. Fuck off with the third party stuff except maybe Crash and Spyro. Give more attention to first party games, including obscure ones that the crossover can serve to promote. Don't pretend that ruining the damage system makes it feel less like a ripoff of Smash Bros, because it doesn't. Just give characters regular HP if you don't want to rip off Smash Bros' weird health system. Also, don't make Kat DLC this time.

>>15143570

>implying Disney is the reason KH is bad

If it was a Disney game as advertised that would be one thing. Instead it tricks kids into buying it thinking it's gonna be about cartoon characters beloved the world over for decades, when really it's just another Final Fantasy game about Final Fantasy characters, because the idiots at Square have their heads so far up their own asses that they think Final Fantasy is equal to Disney and that it should actually be equal, or rather, take priority, to Disney in a "crossover." It's the equivalent to me making a Marvel game and actually making my Sonic OCs the real stars, with Marvel cameos here and there.

>>15143599

KH is not only a terrible game. its also one of the gayest games in existence.

>>15143570

>rageface

>Fucking up greentext

No son, you're part of the problem

>>15143630

hey newfriend, if you roll your cursor over his ID, you can see a (1) which means it was his first post in the thread. meaning he wasnt the guy playing KH.

>>15143662

Disneyfags are legion like Squarefags Anon. Human cockroaches.

>>15143363

>PS All-Stars 2

The first one just depresses me because one half of the roster is from shit games and the other half are all dead IPs. RIP Star/Warhawk

>>15143623

To be fair, a character that can kill people in real life would be pretty powerful. That's why Evil Otto is the most powerful video game character of all time.

But you raise a legitimate point that since Sony's franchises typically do have more in the way of story than Nintendo franchises, their crossover game should have had more story to it. Instead it had even less story than an average fighting game. They could have done cool stuff like have the entire event organized by Calypso from Twisted Metal, using the Dimensionator from Ratchet & Clank to grab people from different universes, but then at the end we find out he's actually being mind controlled with the Cortex Vortex from Crash Bandicoot, but actually Cortex is being controlled by Specter from Ape Escape with a Pipo Helmet. But no, we got nothing. Polygon Man could have worked for a story, too. The original mascot coming to get these characters that overshadowed him Robbit from Jumping Flash should have been in. He was pretty much intended as the mascot game when first released. But no, it's like they plain ran out of time before they could implement story.

Also, I'm pretty sure that through a series of acquisitions, Sony technically owns Q*Bert. So he should be in, too.

>>15143669

>Squarefags

oh squarly?

>>15143712

They could have made something that involved 3D platforming, 3D combat, maybe a bit of shooting or RPG elements and like, anything that could fit in a 3D format, since most PlayStation games are always 3D

The story focus in PlayStation games could have also led to a story mod or more character interactions, specially with the variety of characters you can get

>>15143769

The PlayStation All-Stars brand was probably intended to be a wide banner with lots of different types of games under it, like Sega All-Stars sorta was. I imagine Battle Royale referred to the Smash Bros ripoff, but they also intended to do racing games and such. But of course they never got that far.

I don't hate the idea of a Smash Bros ripoff. People had been talking about it for years. It's easy and it makes sense. But they fucked it up in very obvious ways, namely the dumb combat system which obviously only existed as a feeble attempt to claim they're not a Smash Bros ripoff, which was never going to work. That and having terrible character selection, which is honestly probably a bigger problem when it comes to sales and therefore sequel potential.

>>15143791

I don't even mind the characters clashing, though. Fair enough. Parappa the Rapper meeting Nathan Drake is going to be dumb, so embrace the dumbness. That's fine. Use that humor in situations like having Sly and Drake meet and show how they're actually very similar characters despite one being deliberately cartoony and one aiming strongly for realism. And IIRC they actually did that one in their penultimate battles in story mode, but there should have been a lot more like that.

Embrace the weirdness of it. Last of Us was about to come out. They knew they were going to market it like hell. Half the characters in the game are only there to market third party games anyway, like Donte, so fine, have Joel and Ellie be the Ice Climbers duo ripoff.

>>15136724

>Look guise all these games have forests with good lighting effects clearly they're all the same

I agree that these games are shit, but come on man that's a fucking trash comparison.

>>15136743

>muh safe space echo chamber

That's not what he's saying though. There's a time and place for everything, and there are already threads established for this faggotry. Go shitpost over there and let people enjoy a single fucking game.

>>15143791

I wouldn't say that some models were taken from their games, because some felt more like just awful recreations, which was the case for Parappa and Spike

Doesn't also help that some characters like Spike and Dante weren't represented properly

>>15143847

>I agree that these games are shit, but come on man that's a fucking trash comparison.

It's more that you walk slowly through them with nothing happening for significant portions of the game.

>>15143876

Even then one of the screenshots (bottom left) is obviously the MC about to fight 3 other samurai, and in context many of these screenshots are directly before/after action happening. Like before, I get what you mean, but this isn't a good way to compare these games.

>>15143916

Given the state of modern video games, I wouldn't be surprised if he just talks with them in a cutscene instead.

>start second game

>kat is in casual tank top and shortie shorts

Lord a mercy

>>15146515

Going to be a shame for newcomers when they can't get the permanent unlock of it. Thankfully getting the 300 tokens is easy and fast right now, but still requires you to be past Banga Village to access (since you need the camera).

>>15143669

Squarefags don't fucking exist anymore so cockroaches doesn't even work as a metaphor.

>>15135916

Is it just me, or is Kat the only character to have consistently good porn? Is it impossible to draw her as revolting?

>>15150737

But in a stunning twist it turns out Kat was wearing underwear all along.

Nothing but her underwear

>>15143570

>a pay to play

What?