/v/ - Video Games

>>15125320

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

But we already had this very thread and made a chart that nobody was 100% happy with. Interest just died off with the threads apparently.

Piracy.

That one was pretty ugly and all over the place and they just slapped developers everywhere and had a "kike corner" which almost defeated the purpose of it

Unless I'm thinking of something else

>>15125353

Fug, meant for

>>15125329

>>15125312

>>15125320

The list will spread and it will cause SJWs to frequently attack the non-pozzed ones. Suggestions and looking at their twitter feed currently work.

>>15125371

That's their plan anyways, more people being aware is a fine way to fight it, and if anything SJWs attacking will be a good thing since, if the company doesn't cuck out, they will be rewarded for it like Play-Asia currently is after all the screeching and kvetching done st them

>>15125431

>a list of companies that provide video games for money

its kind of a mouthful

I might be too ambitious with including devs, publishers, localizers and storefronts in one chart

I'm also probably just going to call it "worthwhile videogame companies"

>>15125447

>I might be too ambitious with including devs, publishers, localizers and storefronts in one chart

It's going to be a very, very short list these days, so not really.

>>15125480

>You shouldn't support any video game company

If we're talking triple A then I'd agree, new cod and battlefront/field games are fucking trash, indie companies on the other can fuck around with shit and actually make something worth while and inventive.

Though you do have a point with the game by game basis

Starting with the tier-list format.

>>15125480

Not an unreasonable model, but the point of a list like this is to show companies that have been consistent in putting out good products and ethical behavior.

>If someone seriously can't tell which game is worth their time and money, regardless of who made it

There are some companies who, in my opinion don't deserve the benefit of the doubt of being judged on a game-by-game basis like EA or Ubisoft for example. Their lack of good games aside, they've been repeatedly and consistently cancer. I figure that rewarding companies that do the opposite isn't a bad idea, and its also helpful to look towards these companies if one is interested in finding a quality game.

>>15125312

I'm confused, the list already looks complete?

>>15125515

>After a few decades of buying games and seeing literally every single development I ever respected eventually sell out

If you haven't realized, it doesn't matter how much of a loyal fan you've been and how much the community has supported the games when the game company itself is publicly traded and will always be more beholden to its investors and shareholders.

>>15125312

>Level5

No fuck level 5 they abandoned the Dark Cloud series for puzzle and soccer games, until they make Dark Cloud 3 they won't get a cent out of me.

>>15125480

It would be a list of companies that it would be worth buying a game from, not ones that you have to buy everything from. Don't be that one fucking retard that throws money at EA or Ubisoft because "this game is actually good and I support good games XD". No, you're just supporting shit companies and the only thing they might use your money on is pozzing either new games or the game you already bought. Remember how all the Rainbow Six Siege faggots bought the game, only for the devs to go more and more leftist?

>>15125536

Your alternatives are as follows, either become said investor and shareholder of said company, or seek out community developed games i.e GNU GPL licensed video games. The latter is conventionally independent from market trends.

>>15125504

I'm asking for any further suggestions, and I plan on putting it into a chart/infographic or a tier list.

Providing middling or average companies that can be convinced into being better through emails and feedback for the gray area part would be helpful if that route is worth considering.

>>15125312

>cuckanha bytes

>cd project cuck

>thq cuckic

>aquacuck

>mangaincel

>deep cuck

>talecucks

>>15125743

Did your mother drop you on your head as punishment for eating lead paint chips, or were you born this incapable of wit?

>>15125739

You can't just not mention Falcom using NISA to localize Ys.

Cool, another chart to extinguish individual thought. Haven't seen this before.

>>15125764

Ys VIII being ruined was NISA's fault, Falcom (and in this case it would only be their president to blame)'s mistake was using them. The game itself is still fantastic as well in nipponese, but you're right I can make an asterisk for it or something

>>15125739

I would put XSeed and PQube at "Very Good". XSeed because a lot of the employees are retarded, want to be like Treehouse and desire to change things, and how they handle the "KKK Witches" fiasco. PQube is in bed with Rice Digital and they give them positive reviews without disclosure.

>>15125783

Steamworks is pretty much placebo in DRM form, and Nier: Automata's Denuvo was SE's fault, take a look at them putting Denuvo in Captain Spirit, which is freeware. I guess I would move them to Very Good, still.

>>15125783

>Steam DRM

they added in Steamworks to their games? I was not aware of this, proofs?

and

>>15125825

is correct about Squeenix being the ones to add Denuvo to tomato

Anyways I'll think about dropping them down to Very Good, will probably do it later

>>15125802

I was already planning on doing that for Xseed for that reason; are PQube's localizations usually good, good enough to warrant them in that category?

>do my thinking for me

fuck off

>>15125964

>are PQube's localizations usually good, good enough to warrant them in that category?

I'm not too sure, I've noticed a lot of typos in C;C at launch, but I've never finished it, so they might have corrected those with patches. I've heard that the movie at S;G0's true ED used to corrupt save data and was missing subs (hooktube related), but they fixed that. I'd put them in very good.

>>15126000 (checked)

Will do then

>>15126020

I see he's still drawing the same fucking face.

>>15126011

Maybe they're worried about crackers using captain autism to create a crack for life is tumbler 2, since it's essentially the same game using the same engine and being worked on at the same time.

>>15125743

>if I replace a section of their name with cuck I'll be really cool!

top tip, it makes you look autistic

None, fuck video games

>>15125312

I don't think it's any good creating a chart solely for 'good devs'.

They're all shit in one way or the other.

I think that charts on good games are better than charts on good devs.

>>15126344

>Good localization/publishing

>Good games

>Minor issues

Which of the "Very good" companies am I talking about? :^)

>>15126475

I can try to make them sound more unique but that takes a lot more work and I'm just trying to get the framework for this thing set up

Its a pain to deal with as it is

>>15126344

>Xseed and Idea Factory

>good localization quality

The only people who think this are people who only speak English. XSeed has always been B- at its best, and Idea Factory is known to put "hello there, fellow kids" tier stuff into their work. I know there's worse out there, but that's a case of a grilled cheese sandwich tasting like fine cuisine just because you've been eating shit for so long.

>>15126344

Spike should go down a bit for how they kiked out with Fire Pro.

>>15126506

The main point of this thread was to find alternatives, so if you've got some more localization companies to suggest that put out good work I'm all ears

>>15126515

What happened?

Don't support any company. If you absolutely need to buy vidya for whatever reason, just buy from resellers like g2a or something.

if you're gonna add onto the list, add Running With Scissors

>>15126536

>Running with Scissors

I thought they died after Postal 2, I haven't heard anything from them but okay, I'll add 'em in

>>15126547

They're still updating Postal 2 and 2 years ago they released Postal Redux so they're still kind of alive

>>15126525

People may disagree with me here or see it as nitpicking:

>Most of the work was done with the previous games, very little new additions to World

>Less venues/arenas than Returns, a decade plus old game

>Far smaller roster, up to the community to fill it in (Returns had a heap of real wrestlers with different names to avoid licensing issues, we're talking full NOAH, NJPW, AJPW rosters as well as the older rosters and classics, World has a handful of OC wrestlers only)

>Still no new match types, no proper 2 out of 3 falls, Royal Rumbles, falls count anywhere and more)

>Can't wear or carry the belt

>Lots of stuff left to modders, essential stuff like custom music, ring mats, aprons, smoother menus, some bugfixes all done by modders

>Said modders get told to stop work on a new moves mod

>No asymmetrical customization options

>Game by (((pure coincidence))) leaves early access right before they announce two DLC packs, one of which is the Management mode from Returns

>World officially has less venues, smaller roster and less game modes than the previous entry

>Devs hide behind "oh woe is us, we could barely get this out on this shoestring budget. Now get your wallets out for DLC you filthy goyjin"

>>15126020

>20 minutes to cum in pussy

Then heres an idea stop masturbating 4 times an hour for all of one week before getting laid or consider fucking someone fit for your minicock instead of the woman who enjoys sliding hydrants up her cervix.

Consider Klei Entertainment. Don't Starve, Mark of the Ninja, Shank, Invisible Inc.

They have charged for DLC, but the DLC has been considerable expansions to most every mechanic the game has to offer. It's more like expansion packs of old rather than mappacks, missions, 1-hour story-extenders, or lootboxes. Although they do have some cosmetic shit in Don't Starve Together.

They had one instance of "censorship" back in 2012 where they removed some cutscenes from Shank. Reportedly not for any politically motivated reason, but because both Klei and the players thought the writing was terrible and it made the protagonist (Shank) unlikeable.

If there was ever a good reason to try to cut or edit non-gameplay content in a game post-launch, fixing a hateable protagonist is a good one. The best comparison I can think of is NoA realizing they fucked up on Splatoon 2 and updating English Marina to be less of a bitch.

However, it's difficult to find exactly what changed aside from a few complaints years after the fact, and the devs saying it was one of their first games and they think they messed up the writing. They seem to have mostly removed flashbacks from the very opening of the game that made Shank look like a douche, although one of them had the antagonist saying he was going to "RAPE" Shank's girlfriend. Unfortunately, this also left the player with little motivation aside from wanting to fuck shit up.

I cannot vouch for their newest games, though.

>>15126344

-Focus Home

-Sega sometimes

-Stardock

-Techland

-From

-D3 Publisher

-3D Realms

-Fruitbait Factory

-Orange Juice

-Bohemia Interactive

-Warhorse Studios

-Destructive Creations

>>15126547

Nigger there was a whole board dedicated to the company that was fairly populated before Infinity Never.

>>15126596

>Sega

Haha no

>From

Besides the shitty decisions like letting Bamco make a half-assed remaster for Dark Souls, they're ok

>>15126566

This sounds pretty jew-y

I don't like marking a company down an entire tier for screwing up one game but, assuming this is all true and hasn't been changed since then I'll put them down in either "good" or "okay" tier

>>15126594

Sounds good, where do you think they should go?

Very good? Good? Okay/Average-tier? (Still don't know about those 2 tiers and whether it'd even be worth including them)

>>15126596

Thanks for the suggestions anon

Where do you think they deserve to go respectively?

I remember there was one anon who was making a website like this; I think it was called Honest Vidya or Honest Gaming or something. Didn't remember the URL because it had all of a dozen games on it, but it could be a useful resource.

>>15126642

Depends on their tiers you'll create OP

>>15126020

Those are best, my ex always came like a crazy druggy when just fingering her ass. Her pussy always became sloppy wet even when just hearing my voice to the point my dick kept slipping out

>>15126681

Right now its looking like

>Best of the Best

>Very Good

>Good

>Acceptable/Average

———————————–

>Not Recommended

>Never Buy From

Where should I put Wayforward and Running with Scissors?

I can't think of anything bad enough about them to keep them out of the best of the best, does anyone object to that?

>>15125312

Your chart (the picture you posted) is already good as it is. Don't see any reason to add anything more to it.

>>15125312

Instead of wasting money on companies that will backstab their customers sooner or later, make and effort to catalog and name all companies with ties to jews and leftists, and spread it everywhere, so anons and normalfags can boycott them completely.

You're wasting your effort, gamers who don't want to be treated like cattle are a small minority now.

>>15126344

ASTROSEED

Satazius

Gigantic Army

and every other game they make is fun, DRM free, and requires skill

>>15126888 (heiled)

Will do friend, they sound like a Best of the Best company for sure

>>15126888

Their name seems to be Astro Port, not Astro Seed

Nyu media seems like they'd be good to put on this list from what it seems like as well; can anyone say anything about them, good or bad?

>>15126871

Society at large has the attention span of a 5 year old.

>>15127056

>Their name seems to be Astro Port, not Astro Seed

You're right I got their name wrong. I would like to put my recommendation for their games down as, even though they are copying a formula of a past game, they get it right.

>>15126596

>>15126763

Of those, I'd like to chip in on 3 of them.

Fruitbait Factory/Orange Juice (Very Good/Good)

-Consistently OK quality games.

-Known to ask for feedback from fans, which they attempt to implement in patches to their games

-Occasionally fail badly at said patches.

Destructive Creations (Very Good/Good)

-Very staunch anti-censorship position

-Slow at releasing games

-Sometimes don't deliver on promises (Hatred Modding)

>>15125778

>NISA

You did not mention it in your lists, and it's sort of obvious, but NISA deserves a place on the chart (Never Buy From).

>>15127295

Thanks anon, these will be useful. I'll add it in

Once the chart is filled, I want to flesh it out with the notable or flagship games the devs, localizers or publishers put out, is there any good or really good game Fruitbat is known for putting out?

>>15127102

Thanks for the input anon, I'll keep that in mind as I add it in

ATLUS

>little-to-no censorship

<weird Mary Sue remakes

<forced English dubs

I'd put it under "Okay"

>>15127733

I'll drop them down a tier or two, thanks for the information

>>15127707

You could probably drop the repeated "no significant issues found" line, it seems redundant when you have things in upper rankings.

>>15125312

There is no such thing as ethical vidya consumption under capitalism. :^)

>>15125525

What if it's not publically traded?

>>15127845

You're right. Its sort of just a placeholder line for now because more lines makes it look more filled out which is nicer on the eyes

Plus I'll most likely replace the lines with something, probably the flagship or notable games from the company

>>15127707

Atlus has a lot issues like day 1 on-cart DLC and ruining games like Strange Journey and Radiant Historia with their Mary Sue waifus.

>>15125499

> don't deserve the benefit of the doubt of being judged on a game-by-game basis like EA or Ubisoft for example

I thought the new Rayman games were supposed to be good? I played one a friend's PS4, think it was Legends, and quite enjoyed it, though it was short. It had big tiddied Viking girls as playable characters with panty shots as part of the death animation and essentially seemed free of pozz. Despite all the reasons not to support Ubisoft, there are still people who will go on a game by game basis, because they believe in the free market. That buying that game from the company and not others will show that that is what sells. SJWs heavily infesting the company will fuck much of the shit up, but if sales for pozzed Asscreed are tanking while sales for unpozzed Rayman are steady or growing, who do you think the investors and shareholders who follow the dollar, not the narrative, will have a problem with? Team Asscreed will eventually get the bullet and Team Rayman will get bigger games. The main issue is potential SJWs worming their way into Team Rayman and slowly eating away at it, but until this shows, I'd have no problem buying Rayman. No that I'd have much incentive to since I've already played it.

>>15127707

The Warhorse logo is covering up text for Team Cherry. I'm not too sure about Alice Soft; I never played any of their games, but it seems some of their non-Rance games have NTR in them, especially the recent ones. Evenicle seems safe, though.

>>15127979

NTR games aren't inherently bad games, they are just for a niche market.

Also, Creative Assembly for Total War. Shit DLC practices tho.

>>15127997

I'm just going to shill for less-known devs who make strategy games.

Slytherine Interactive: always make political free strategy games, now they make War40K games.

Tindalos Interactive: used to make some obscure games now they make Battlefleet Gothic Armada which was noice.

>>15126354

Isn't that why people are creating an alt-wiki to the /v/ recommends wiki since the wiki went to shit?

>>15128057

I mean you don't buy a furry vn and not expect faggotry, why would you expect the same of NTR

>>15128103

>>15128057

Japs make games targeted for their audience, they do not make it for propaganda purpose.

>>15128164

Don't get mad you get cucked, cuck.

>>15128164

Are these games VNs? If so, there already not games, NTR or not.

>>15128175

*they're, fucking hell

>>15128183

It's just a fetish, dawg.

>>15128202

>>15128186

Reported for thread derailment.

>>15128208

>Announcing a report

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15128209

And filtered.

>tell me what to think

>>15128218

Collective board choices for future people, obviously.

>>15128186

I hear this exact shit said constantly about all bad fetishes. I remember the trapfags who derailed the SGDQ thread said this shit.

Bump

Also, vouching for Graviteam

>>15127979

Correction: Evenicle has NTR.

>>15128776

>Steam-only releases for an indie

Kinda disappointing, are their games usually good? Any issues with them?

>>15128029

>Slytherine Interactive: always make political free strategy games, now they make War40K games.

>Tindalos Interactive: used to make some obscure games now they make Battlefleet Gothic Armada which was noice.

Anything else to add? Do they release DRM-free? Are they generally good devs that still provide support for their games and whatnot?

>War40K games

Aren't the new ones shit?

>Creative Assembly

I thought they went full jew and the games are shit now?

At least that's what I've heard

>>15127978

> Despite all the reasons not to support Ubisoft, there are still people who will go on a game by game basis, because they believe in the free market.

You mean people that lack common sense and logic because they want to jerk off to their principles rather than doing anything to truly help the industry.

Ubisoft has been one of the largest fucking contributors to the cancer in the video game industry, namely putting out broken, unfun garbage releases in a hollywood style and filling their games full of pozz and propaganda. For every passable game they put out, there's probably over 20 terrible games they've put out that are there purely to rack in money and take advantage of gullible (often underage) consumers who don't know any better.

Why bother wading through a mountain of shit to find gems in Ubisoft when you could support the literally hundreds or thousands of good games from developers who are better in literally every way? On top of this you would take away power from Ubisoft who is a giant in the industry that uses their power to reduce power in consumers with their shitty practices

>>15126052

Elijah… no

>>15130681

>Is it worth making an "okay/average" section?

No, "okay/average" != "Worthwhile"

>>15131049

Good point. That will make things easier as well, thanks anon

Now I'm wondering if I should include both a "not recommended" and a "Never buy from" or just a "Never buy from" section

>>15131738

Why not make a separate chart for that? With categories like "bad practice but not unethical", "intentional bad practice" and "avoid at all costs".

>>15130681

>Koei Temco

Don't they have consistent issues with ports and DLC, especially on the PC?

>>15130681

why is Atlus still there? They're cancers with their

DLC pricing.

remakes that remove original art, add in OC characters, and add in endings that make no sense

>>15125312

Chart in OP about sums it up, mission accomplished.

>>15132924

>release broken ass PC ports that will burn your CPU worst case

>patch them (sometimes, Nights of Azure's rendering still broken like fuck)

>sometimes release ports with lower quality assets than console equivalent

>DLC jewery out the ass like you've never seen

>>15133209

I'm bored so might as well.

Atlus:

>Censores games like Utawarerumono and Dungeon Travelers 2

CDPR:

>shipped Witcher 2 with DRM on physical discs

>lied about downgrade (repeatedly)

>lied about Redkit for W3 (also repeatedly)

From Software

>there will be no DLC! Dark Souls 2 will be a complete game unlike its predecessor

>tries to sell it twice

>same for DaS 1 remaster

XSEED:

>JUST meme my translations up, senpai

Same for Idea Factory.

>>15133225

Forgot one.

Arc System Works:

>google translate tier (at least as of a few years ago, haven't checked their shit in a while)

>sells you incomplete game with DLC characters out the ass

>game becomes obsolete as they release a new version of it which you have to buy (paid updates)

>>15126763

>Never Buy From

NISA should be in that tier and I don't think I have to explain why.

>>15133278

I'm really bitter about AC+R dying to that turd too, you just had to remind me.

Grasshopper manufacture is a good company (Notable games: Killer 7, No More Heroes, Silver Case series, Let It Die)

>>15126596

>sega

not even sometimes, fuck them for putting denuvo on every PC release

Alpha Dream (good games always. no dlc shit)

Ladybug (their games are usually free)

Team Cherry (free DLCs, cheap price for 40+ hours of content)

Whatever the director of Cave Story and Kero blaster studio's name is

>>15125353

>had a "kike corner" which almost defeated the purpose of it

how does identifying subversive elements in the video game industry defeat the purpose of the chart?

>>15133516

Redblackpill drops truthbombs on another thread yet again. Face it OP, (((they))) fucking won, and all of /v/ agrees. It's fucking over.

>>15133516

The fact that none are debating this post is oddly telling. You'd think that bluepill cucks who still think there is hope would damage control the fuck out of this redpill.

>>15134200

Why the fuck would you bother arguing with a blackpilled faggot?

Once you're blackpilled its literally impossible to come back from it, its better to leave their rantings alone and focus on people who's minds are still capable of being changed

>>15125312

<published by EA?

>pirate that shit!

<published by (((take2)))

>pirate that shit!

<published by pretty much any chosen (((studio)))

>pirate that shit!

<on disk DLC?

>pirate that shit!

<online for singleplayer

>pirate that shit!

<does it have denuvo?

>wait for a drunk russian to crack it

>pirate that shit!

<DRM of any kind?

>pirate that shit!

<character with nice titties given a reduction surgery

>pirate that shit!

<basically any game

>pirate that shit!

(((15133516)))

(((15134187)))

Someone is hammering this place like crazy. I wonder if it has something to do with the recent liberation of /pol/ from the roach and the slow death of leftypol.

>>15133304

>>15133362

Will add 'em in. Where do you think each of these belong respectively if you wanna help out?

>>15133431

It was more of a part of the chart that enabled them more than anything

It ended up being more like a

>We know these ones are jewish b-but sometimes they make good games right?

>>15133234

I suppose that's bad enough to kick them off the chart, got any specific ones you could point towards for these?

>>15133384

I'll confirm if the stuff in here is true and accurate with the VN thread, and if it is the full story with MangaGamer and if so I'll drop them and JAST down a tier; I was not aware of a lot of this stuff.

Some of the stuff I'm a bit aware of

>Cutting content for shit they couldn't get a license for (their first release of Higurashi was missing a lot of music and had no minigames)

This one doesn't seem like their fault; licensing issues are pretty out of control, and they fixed it later on somehow didn't they?

>Porting games to a new engine for no reason (they probably did this for DRM, now they do it for Steam integration I think - why not just translate the damn game?)

This really doesn't seem like a real issue unless you can prove its for the purpose of DRM.

>>15132906

Maybe. This chart has been work enough as it is though.

>>15135236

Ladybug goes on top tier, their games are usually free

Same with Playism (Cave Story, Kero blaster director)

As for Alpha Dream, either same or one below.

Team cherry is already there

>>15135537

>Same with Playism (Cave Story, Kero blaster director)

What? I didn't think Pixel had anything to do with the foundation of Playism

>>15135236

I'd say grasshoper belongs on the very good or good tier.

>>15135379

>>15128147

>>15128057

>>15127997

>>15127979

the only slightly above shit NTR is the gay reverse NTR where the bishounen hero gets fucked in front of thecuck damsel, thats so niche japs arent making a game with gay shit unless its pandering to fujoshits

>>15135379

why is there a huge flab of skin hanging from the right side of that little girl's face?

>>15135537

>>15135720

Will do.

>>15135236

>I suppose that's bad enough to kick them off the chart, got any specific ones you could point towards for these?

Original BB and its fist paid update for the first point is what I can say for sure as I haven't bothered to check the translations after that. All their fighting games from recent years for the last two points, including BB. The paid update shit goes back as far as the PS2 days though arguably there wasn't any better way to do this realistically back then.

My point is that your list is utterly pointless at best and counterproductive at worst. You should not trust any corporation ever, period. They can turn around and fuck you in the ass at any point without warning and what you're doing is promoting blind fanboyism "because these are *our* guys, they can do no wrong!". Just look at how CDPR/GOG turned out, yet there's still people sucking their dick today just because they were being held up on a pedestal as the good guys for so long. People just parrot what they heard before without caring to actually verify whether its still true and you're enabling them. It's a fucking echo chamber with everyone repeating the same narrative over and over again in a vicious cycle because they don't know any better and don't care to, after all that nice chart they got on /v/ tells them what to think and their secret underground club can only be right and they have to fit in. Don't fucking do that. Judge on a case by case basis, use your own fucking brain. Do your research before spending money on any new release, don't just blindly trust a corporation because they were nice in the past or had a good reputation.

>>15130681

>vanillaware

Published 3 of their games under NISA, which made dragons crown unavailable for quite some time when they tried to switch to atlus(?) or something like that.

>>15125783

not to mention whora and trannysfomers

>>15135862

I am aware of your point anon, but you seem to be misunderstanding this chart.

Its not to put up companies on a pedestal, its more to inform people of ethical companies that also make good games. Fanboyism will come out from people regardless, no matter what happens. I'd also rather it happen with a number of (currently) good companies (especially ones that have DRM-free games so that post-release fuckery is severely limited; that's why DRM is a notable criterion in the chart itself) rather than the current situation where everyone uses between one or a few of the largest ones. Steam comes to mind, for example.

>People just parrot what they heard before without caring to actually verify whether its still true and you're enabling them.

That will also happen no matter what with some to a large amount of people. The chart is more to inform normal or average anons where they can start looking or digging on their own. Its easy to use but doesn't provide much information itself. Its not a wiki, just a single image. Saying its enabling faggots isn't really true. Its just another resource to them, no different from anything else.

>They can turn around and fuck you in the ass at any point without warning

This rarely happens. Its much more often a gradual process, with people leaving when they feel like a company crosses the line somewhere depending on their own standards or views.

>Just look at how CDPR/GOG turned out, yet there's still people sucking their dick today just because they were being held up on a pedestal as the good guys for so long

I personally think they're still good but that's besides the point. If your standards are high enough and you're autistic enough, nobody is good for any period of time. Recommending games themselves are almost pointless because people will eventually notice if good games repeatedly come out from the same people, and those people will get some praise and fanboyism.

>after all that nice chart they got on /v/ tells them what to think and their secret underground club can only be right and they have to fit in

If it happens to help move and spread those retards to multiple alternatives rather than contributing to one of the prime evils and making them larger, I could care less. Those people weren't worth anything anyways in terms of thought, might as well try to put them to use.

>Judge on a case by case basis, use your own fucking brain.

People can do that. The chart would only help those kinds of people where to look, and to ask people if they're still good or worth a damn or not.

>Do your research before spending money on any new release

This already went without saying.

>don't just blindly trust a corporation because they were nice in the past or had a good reputation.

A good reputation and good behavior in the past certainly helps for a company's credibility and while judging shit in a vacuum might be nice, with this logic it'd be pointless to buy anything ever if you cared about the industry. No alternative would be good enough besides piracy. You can't buy a game from a company because they're a company and not worth trusting or supporting, or if they're cancer as a company regardless if the game is good; you'd be contributing to the cancer of the industry. You can't buy preowned because you'd be contributing to the scalping market most likely, or some other cancer like gamestop or something cancerous. Would you argue that a company once its become cancerous to the point of being nearly beyond redemption, would be worth buying a game from if the game was good?

Anyways anon while I respect your opinion and can see the logic behind it, I just don't agree with it and will go through with making the chart because I consider the benefits outweighed and the perceived losses as inevitable and being put to better use than without the chart.

My apologies.

>>15126596

>Stardock

Fuck those kikes for jewing us out of a true Star Control 2 sequel. I bet you actually liked Star Control 3, faggot.

>>15126047

Fantastic, just give the crackers access to denuvo ahead of life is shit 2 and let them crack it before it even comes out.

>>15130681

holy shit this thread…. unironically kill yourself, OP… god damn how much of a newfag is this guy anyway

>>15138538

Ummm… like… that's your opinion, sweety

>>15133384

>MangaGamer

>Absolutely not worth supporting, you humongous faggot. They're previous practices should be enough to keep you away forever:

Great Bait.

>>15126594

Regarding Klei at least in the case of Oxygen Not Included it should be said that while they can produce solid gameplay there's clearly cultural marxism influence. So if you're /pol/ rather than /leftypol/ it might bother you how the "randomly" generated characters tend to be every shade of brown and almost never white. It has absolutely no effect on gameplay but can be annoying nevertheless.

In fact I have good reason to believe that they've implemented balancing on this irrelevant to gameplay feature where after reaching a certain degree of overall whiteness in your colony the character generator will never generate another white until you've picked up some shitskins…

>>15141691

>Compile Heart

>Idea Factory

>good games

Its true they are ethical though.

>>15141691

Move Atlus down.

>>15142279

Adult Swim can get fucked forever and their games don't matter when they feature Zoe Quinn as a pioneer woman developer and cancel WP

>>15141691

>Warhorse

They only said what they said for spite marketing *also Vavra is part kike and a lot of their funding game from a leftist Czech**.

>>15141691

>>15142366

See https://archive.is/zgCjR https://archive.li/I7cdk https://archive.li/mi7LH https://archive.li/VY2Ol and look up Zdenek Bakala (their real financial backer).

>>15133225

>XSEED:

>JUST meme my translations up, senpai

When did this start? To the best of my remembrance they were one of the translators that stayed close to the original text and avoided memes and jokes

>>15125499

>Not an unreasonable model, but the point of a list like this is to show companies that have been consistent

Companies are not consistent, companies are groups of people managed by select people that come and go who's whims are dictated by shitheads that will try to scam the company to make their stocks worth more so they can bail out at a appropriate time and make the most money from it, or kikes buy up all the stock so they can funnel out propaganda, there is nothing consistent about a model like that, unless one individual owns more than 50% stock in said company.

>>15141691

Gamejolt has something fishy going on with hatespeech in the terms of use

Can't be damned to decipher the implications, but there you go

>>15135236

>they fixed it later on somehow didn't they?

They got the music back, minigames are still gone, even the ones without licensing issues like Rena PUNCH. I assume this is because of their choice to make their own engine, but I don't really know that for sure. The new engine has its strengths and weaknesses, but I don't know exactly how flexible it is, so it might not be possible for them to add the games.

>>15142239

If you can provide strong actual evidence this would be a different story. It would still be a minor issue but at least it would point towards possible sketchiness

>>15142323

I'll change the wording a bit.

>>15142327

I'm a bit reluctant to because despite their 2 recent shitty remakes, they had more good remakes and games made and published recently overall

>Devil Survivor and Soul Hackers remakes

>Etrian Odyssey games

>Persona Q games

And other shit. In Dungeon Travelers 2 they had to censor according to the ESRB to avoid an AO rating which is financial suicide for a game, and Utawarerumono was cited as being censored because of the regulators. In both cases they were transparent.

I also feel their DLC practices are pretty standard for the nip industry, a bit over the top for certain games like SMT and a few of the EO games and shit but that's my opinion.

I'll strongly consider moving them down anyways. I don't like defending companies and this chart is made for the people, and considering multiple people are asking with decent reasons, I'll strongly consider doing so in the next few updates.

>>15143842

This will help; I'll look into it further and see if I can find anything. Thanks anon.

>>15142370

>archives provide the whole threads

Hard to find anything particularly damning in there. I also couldn't find much about that backer dude after a few searches.

Bumping so people know this is still alive and to make sure it doesn't fall off the catalog within the next 12 hours

>>15149897

The second Etrian Odyssey remake is bad too and their DLC practices is nevertheless horrendous for the most part, also SMT has gone downhill. Other than 2U however the EO games are good overall and I agree that their earlier remakes are solid before they decided to shove a Mary Sue everywhere. Can't say much about Persona series since I haven't played them.

>>15156998

>bickering about companies

That's actually fine by me. I don't want to create a dogmatic guide telling people what's good and what's not. This was just to give people places to look for good games from companies of varying (but almost always good or higher) ethics. People discussing and debating them is fine by me; if anything its a good thing if more information comes out of it.

I'm still unsure whether i want to keep it as a tier-list kind of thing or not, but without it it kinda becomes a disorganized heap and there's a lot of overlap between certain companies. I might delineate between functions such as publishers, storefronts, etc. but it gets tricky when companies do multiple things; they might end up taking over the chart.

On the plus side one would get to see how they fare as a publisher vs as a developer and so on but that's a lot of work

>>15149897

>If you can provide strong actual evidence this would be a different story. It would still be a minor issue but at least it would point towards possible sketchiness

Only way to do that would be to spend at least a couple of hours just capturing gameplay testing the duplicant generation mechanic. This one flaw isn't really worth the effort.

You're welcome to try the game yourself iirc there were torrents of it up though they could potentially be outdated as the game keeps getting new content and other updates frequently. Don't really have any other complaints about them for now, I liked Mark of the Ninja too.

>>15157162

Peddle your blackpills elsewhere, faggot.

>>15159036

Not an argument. There is not a single one worth your time and effort. Pirate everything. Crash the industry. It exists SOLELY as a government propaganda source.

>>15161242

update rws with

>has updated legacy games regardless if there's a remake; see: postal 1 with the new added mouse fix

Don't forget to add Todd Howard's Bethesda Studios to the list, he's one of us.

Nuke degenerates, amirite fellow goymers?

>>15126051

>anal

>normal

Fuck off.

>>15161932

>not knowing what criterions make a person a normalfag

Kill yourself newfag.

>>15161725

Nice try Todd.

>>15133384

>Porting games to a new engine for no reason

There are mulitple reasons, multi-language, sprite changing, macOS and Linux support. Also most of the engine ports make it much easier for patchers, with Umineko you can just change the source code directly.

Contrary to the teenage communist directly above, any consumption is ethical if you willingly buy the game because it's a good game and you want to play it. If the game is good, but involves industry practices you don't want to support (denuvo, censorship, etc.), pirate it. It's really that simple. Being loyal to specific companies based on past behavior is silly; as anyone here should know by now, companies can (and do regularly) go to shit over time. The only reasonable approach is on a game-by-game basis.

For the sake of contributing to your effort anyway, shake up your phrasing. No one wants to read a chart that says "generally good" on every other positive bullet point.

Pretty sure Klei censored their Shank games a good while after they were released.

OP's list is already complete.

No company is worth supporting

>ethical consumption

Stop using commie language.

>>15135862

The same thing that is happening to GOG happened with Steam. Everyone including those on 4chan praised Valve and Gabe Newell to unprecidented heights. Now look at where they are. Although when uou look at things objectively they the lesser evil. There might be some hidden Commies in this thread, but they do have evidence for the fact that companies eventually do and will try to fuck you in the ass. Its hard to argue against pirating everything.

>>15161267

Will do

>>15163593

I am aware of how generic a lot of the points are; I wish I could say unique things about every company but its hard, possibly too hard for me to do that; I'll think of something.

I've addressed points similar to yours earlier in the thread if you care to look there

Guess I'd better move GoG down, maybe out entirely

>>15161242

Any chance you could add in Amplitude Studios to the Very Good tier list? They're the maker of the nice Endless series of games (Endless Space, Endless Legend, Dungeon of the Endless). Also they're European and aren't falling prey to the influence of SJW culture trying to infest the gaming industry.

Time will tell with Amplitude if being purchased by Sega will affect them positively or negatively.

Also Gamersgate (no relation to GamerGate) as a digital distributor is a fairly decent alternative if not wanting to support Steam or GOG, for one reason or another. It's also the only distributor where you can purchase a DRM free copy of Alpha Protocol, as the game comes with a DRM free patch if you buy it there.

>>15161242

Another few devs to consider adding on there as far as indie devs go may be

AGD Interactive (made some different King's Quest and Quest for Glory remakes, and are working on their own point & click adventure right now called Mage's Initiation)

Freebird Games (the developer of To The Moon, cool dev that just wants to make good stories in games without politicizing their work)

Zeboyd Games (maker of Breath of Death VII a parody RPG of Final Fantasy VII, and followed through releasing their Kickstarter funded game Cosmic Star Heroine)

Night Dive Studios (have made some hiccups with their System Shock Kickstarter, but have tried making amends for their mistakes and worked hard to bring several IPs like System Shock out of copyright hell)

Also the purgatory list could be updated with some of these:

Rockstar Games

Sony Santa Monica

Naughty Dog

Relic

Monolith Soft

InXile

Firaxis

Also with some Japanese devs/companies, localization quality should be taken into account or at least noted for them if it's been an issue (like with the Fire Emblem games, for example).

>>15186244

Another dev for purgatory could also be Creative Assembly (have had some ups and downs, but finally gave us a good Alien game with Alien Isolation).

Surprised this is even still getting replies

>>15186160

Will add Amplitude in.

>Gamergate

Aren't they a key reseller? I'd want to avoid including those in the chart if possible assuming they are.

>>15186244

Purgatory is a temporary placeholder; not going to include it in the actual chart

Decided to go with an anon's suggestion to only include good or better companies

>Also with some Japanese devs/companies, localization quality should be taken into account or at least noted for them if it's been an issue (like with the Fire Emblem games, for example).

Good idea.

I'll add in those indies as well, but those ones you wanted to add to purgatory are pretty much cancer-tier