a76ff2 No.15122914
It looks like Bethesda will be doing some things differently with Fallout 76, whilst adding new things like Perk Cards. Additionally, the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system is reported to be revised for a multiplayer environment, too.
Website VGR wrote up a report regarding Fallout 76 — Bethesda Game Studio’s upcoming online Fallout title — leveling, perks, and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system. If you want to know more about this game, hopefully, you’ll find it here.
Firstly, fans of the Fallout series will find that Fallout 76 will keep the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system, which means Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Intelligence, Agility, and Luck will stick around.
Moreover, the site reads that the game has it where you’ll earn EXP and levels by doing things you would usually do. After a level, you will earn a perk point. However, the way that you spend perk points in Fallout 76 is different from that of Fallout 4.
You will be able to spend each perk in one of the seven S.P.E.C.I.A.L. categories. Instead of choosing a perk from a chart, the game will display three Perk Cards. Each card, with a max rank of three, offers a different perk, but you can only pick from one card, though.
Furthermore, instead of having permanent access to all perks that you’ve invested in, you will have a limited number of card slots. You can assign any Perk Card you’ve upgraded in one of these slots if you want to benefit from it.
It’s worth noting that you can’t use all of your Perk Cards at the same time, but you can rotate them whenever.
It’s unclear how this system will work in action with multiple people scavaging around West Virginia, but I’m sure the beta will give potential players and leery folks an idea.
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/07/fallout-76-features-a-new-perk-card-system/63256/
b40104 No.15122918
>>15122914
I hope you just copy and pasted this cause that is some awful formatting.
a76ff2 No.15122924
>>15122918
Yeah, sorry about that. It didn't looked that bad in a smaller window.
a9ef32 No.15122928
Reinventing the buggy, wooden wheel
311a5f No.15122929
>They're gonna sell "booster packs" instead of loot boxes.
a76ff2 No.15122932
>>15122928
Basically crimsonland perks + Witcher 3's limited slots for them.
>you can’t use all of your Perk Cards at the same time
8501d4 No.15123254
>>15122914
>>15122929
Isn't this the same system that DICE has been using for years? If this turns out to be loot boxes I'm going to be so happy.
Please tell me that Todd was actually stupid enough to try this.
66ceb9 No.15123270
And I thought fallout 4's leveling up system sounded fucking bad.
aaf6f1 No.15123285
I want this to be the next big trainwreck but at the same time I can't bring myself to care because Bethesdadrones will eat it up like candy no matter what kind of shit it turns out to be.
7ec2c1 No.15123329
Now I am waiting for confirmation of info about mods being only available from Creation Club and lack of any other mod support. The last piece of the puzzle to make Fallout 76 absolute failure.
66ceb9 No.15123332
>>15123285
I think it will be moderately successful but way less than what they would be hoping for. The initial hype seems luke warm and I see tons of defense shill videos going up to try and win people over.
7e1e56 No.15123388
>>15123329
There's no singleplayer anon, the game is fully online, confirmed on both E3 and noclip presentation. There are no mods just because of that, and creation club will probably function in the same way TF2 hat creators do. First something is made, then its dev approved, then its in the game.
8501d4 No.15123402
>>15123329
My suspicion is that "Private Server" actually means rented servers and that all Mods will be done through the CC. This is how Minecraft did it once Microsoft took over, I'd anticipate the same will occur here. Also remember that your character is tied to your Bethesda.net account so the game can never be offline.
8501d4 No.15123411
>>15123404
>someone with 750 hours in skyrim
you're acting like thats something to be proud of. heh.
8cb9ac No.15123455
>>15123404
>as someone with 750 hours in skyrim
750 hours of suffering.
ca85b9 No.15123466
>>15122914
And just as I thought they couldn't casualize even further the RPG aspect of the saga, they double down and go full retarded.
7ec2c1 No.15123548
>>15123411
>>15123404
As a person with 500h on Skyrim, it is not but it is good indication of how much of Bethesda bullshit person knows.
That guy still got good end of a stick there is good chance he has less experience with settlements than I. After all settlements are stolen content in same way Autumn Leaves is. There has been a Real Time Settlers mod for F3, FNV and Skyrim.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/7070 Here for you to exactly see what I am talking about.
After you actually played with RTS Fallout's 4 settlement system was absolute trash. You needed multiple mods to even be able to clean and place stuff in the world and nobody actually figured out to add precision placing RTS had.
FO4 and Skyrim:SE also were absolute mess in terms of breaking stuff. Mine officially bought FO4 doesn't even boot thanks to Creation Club mess.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/1618346571421475711/ Only solution to turn on the game is to cut its internet access. Great bug to have while making the next game on same engine online only.
Not to mention that update crashed F4SE meaning all mods were basically broken. In 6 months time F4SE released their update. Bethesda didn't. A lot of people including me cannot actually play the game they purchased.
On top of all that Bethesda generally fucked their community.
Entire discussion on paid mods previously was awful. A lot of modders demanded to get paid for making buggy broken shit. At the same time ignoring people already paid 60$ not to play Skyrim but to play around with mods.
Good thing Bethesda made sure they will never actually get money for their mods with Creation Club. Effectively making sure these fucks just leave. Unfortunately it also means nobody really make mods for their game anymore.
I mean it doesn't mean anyone were eager to add stuff to F4 anyways. Voiced protagonist and new dialog system meant nobody really added any new content to their game. The biggest gameplay and content mod was Frost. It was total remake that removed any story and bumped game difficulty a lot.
Trust me when I will say people who have been Bethdrones are the first to actually shit on that fucking company. Bethesda made sure we actually will.
>>15123453
I get you. It was my go to game when I was drunk and/or tired.
04ec37 No.15123705
>>15123466
Nah, having perks randomly dropped for you actually harder than choosing specific path for your build. This shit makes powerful builds harder to create, and merely work of a chance. So some people will be more lucky than others.
Probably they did this to make chances of players with various skill more equal. And by that i mean idiots who didn't knew how to abuse vats in F4. Having vats related perks drop at lower rate would make seasoned players less OP.
PS: vats is now real time too, i don't know how that will affect the game
ca85b9 No.15123716
>>15123705
I'm playing an RPG, not a rogue-like.
They did this to sell booster packs or whatever, and because they are lazy shits trying to cash into the whole "rng" gimmick.
>to make chances of players with various skill more equal
Balance kills fun, uniqueness in a class, or variety in builds, and shifts towards one "meta", thus forcing all players to choose the same path.
>vats is now real time too, i don't know how that will affect the game
<What is Fallout Tactics
Confirmed for bethesdakiddie
Play a real RPG before trying to be an apologist of casualization, faggot.
d60e56 No.15123719
>>15123705
>Probably they did this to make chances of players with various skill more equal.
No, they did this to sell you shit.
04ec37 No.15123726
>>15123716
>I'm playing an RPG, not a rogue-like.
Dude. You really don't even comprehend what you just posted. Fallout 76 is neither rpg nor rogue-like, and rogue-likes can be rpgs too, look at tales of maj'eyal.
Fallout 76 is a rust clone with stats, like Conan Exiles.
ca85b9 No.15123731
>>15123726
Then stop calling it a Fallout, it's like calling something a Mario game but without platforming.
It's retarded, and you are part of the cancer for defending this behaviour.
d60e56 No.15123739
I can only dream this shit will fail but considering what kind of brain dead stooges still buy this shit I can even visualize it in my mind its such an absurd fantasy,
7ec2c1 No.15123741
>>15123731
>Mario game but without platforming.
Isn't this Mario Cart or Mario Party?
d60e56 No.15123742
57fedb No.15123758
Epic, I'm gonna get my dad to buy me like $200 worth of card packs and open them up on stream on twitch. #dab #killingIt
ca85b9 No.15123788
>>15123741
>Isn't this Mario [x]
Then call it Fallout battle royale.
The fuck did you come from?
7ec2c1 No.15123887
>>15123788
>Then call it Fallout battle royale.
Well they called it 76 instead of 5 so basically they did it. Not exactly battle royale but they definitely signaled it is a spin-off.
>The fuck did you come from?
Well personally from nowhere but I can clearly see you have spend too much time on reddit before posting here.
You are trying to use sage as a downvote you are fucking pissed of at someone because he didn't fully agree with you.
He didn't even disagree with you. Guy just made a post about why he thinks they are doing a card system. As a response you attacked him and assumed he is Bethdrone and haven't played a real RPG. With you only proof of that being that he mentioned VATS being real time in F76.
Go back to reddit. You have downvotes there. You have a lot of people that will jerk you off for saying your personal opinion on something. You will be much more happy there.
2906c5 No.15124160
>>15122914
>Fallout 76 Features A New
It could feature blowjobs and ice cream for all I care. I'm still not buying this shit.
98d955 No.15124170
>+10% accuracy and damage
>+15% accuracy and damage
>+20% accuracy and damage
Everyone working at Bethesda Studios needs to be taken behind the warehouse where they keep the unsold copies of Fallout 4 and shot in the back of the head.
410fc8 No.15124187
>>15124170
And the retards that keep them in business will buy it in the millions.
f5b819 No.15124774
>>15124170
But anon, that's exactly what perks in fallout 1 and 2 did.
98d955 No.15124779
>>15124774
Fallout 1 and 2 weren't action "RPGs."
92fbb5 No.15124913
>>15122918
>that is some awful formatting.
Well then, tell me how you would fix it.
72099a No.15124929
>>15124913
Paragraphs can have more than 1-2 sentences.
597f25 No.15124952
>>15124913
>Resize the text field
>Lurk longer than a day
>Go to school and learn about paragraphs
Pick one or more.
92fbb5 No.15124960
>>15124929
Buts that's not changing the formatting, and a paragraph can still have as little as one sentence.
5b96a0 No.15124992
>>15123739
Keep dreaming buddy, people have been clamoring for a Fallout with online capabilities for years. This literal shit will sell like hot cakes.
7dd245 No.15125233
Next they'll announce its F2P, mark my words.
5dcd75 No.15125236
>>15124170
>Unsold copies of Fallout 4.
Damn son, you sure are a true gamer.
Your mama should be proud.
5b96a0 No.15125263
>>15125236
Are you a fucking schizo or something? Your reply makes no sense.
ad970b No.15125268
>>15125263
Don't worry it's just todd
8ecd84 No.15125278
>>15124170
>where they keep the unsold copies of Fallout 4
didnt fallout 4 turned a huge profit?
a2ebb6 No.15125425
>>15123254
The only stupid ones are fallout fans, fallout lootboxes will sell like hotcakes and game journos will be paid to shill them (Why I'm Happy Fallout 76 has Lootboxes).
f51307 No.15125459
>>15122914
>Each card, with a max rank of three
>with a max rank of three
Because leftists and nonwhites are too fucking retarded to even comprehend the number five from the previous game.
f51307 No.15125462
>>15124960
Reported. Go back to 5th grade and shut the fuck up.
f92e0e No.15125470
>>15122914
I hope this game is DOA.
f138da No.15125520
>It's the current year Anno Domini 2018
>Still no vehicles of any sort in Bethesda's Fallout
I bet people still fucking disappear through doors into buildings too.
6c6a0e No.15125529
>>15125470
It's already dead. It was dead on announcement, not even arrival.
f781fa No.15125533
It was obviously going to be doubled down shit from the E3 reveal, I really hope nobody is surprised.
f781fa No.15125548
>>15125529
I'm surprised there was less than 1 mil hanging on Fallout Shitter in that Steam leak. Pete Hines needs to go on the chopping block. You don't need friends or associates, Todd. A little man can still do a lot of good.
46e31c No.15125566
>>15122914
>After you level up you have to gamble which perk you get
Bravo Todd.
aaf6f1 No.15125604
>>15125520
Haven't they removed all the people in favor of this always-online multiplayer bullshit?
410fc8 No.15125611
>>15125459
The image reminded me of Fallout Shelter, and the fact that if Bethesda didn't own the IP we might have actually gotten a neat Vault Tycoon game instead of the garbage they made.
2c15f9 No.15125617
>>15125604
Removing the people in favor of this always-online multiplayer bullshit sounds like a good idea.
9d2b53 No.15125622
>>15125529
They fucked up so bad people were unsure if it was online only. Of all shitty developers that managed to stay alive, I'm real pissed Bethesda's one of them. I would have been ok without Morrowind.
becc01 No.15125665
10 bucks says they sell card packs as MTX
1940f7 No.15125719
>>15122914
One Triassic period on Paint.
be427f No.15125729
>picture for concentrated fire is one Pip-Boy aiming at another's knee
Disgusting.
8501d4 No.15126239
>>15125665
Todd has used the term "live service" before, which is code for MTX. Zenimax has also been involved with GDC panels on the subject of lootboxes defending them and on top of that Quake Champions already has loot boxes.
Pretty obvious what's going on here.
f35905 No.15126587
My biggest problem with Fallout 76 is the half assed pvp. What's the point of being a raider, if you don't get anything from killing other players and you can't raid their camp?
768818 No.15127108
>>15122929
They already have booster packs in the lunch boxes of the mobile fallout shelter game
ccb37f No.15127123
>>15125236
>literally never seen that gif before
>reverse image search it
>fucking tumblr
Get the fuck out shill, we have named you.
c7a39f No.15127133
>>15127123
Except his filename shows that he saved it from this here site, you stupid fucking faggot.
Kill yourself for being so desperate to fit in.
ccb37f No.15127135
>>15125459
it's more that design wise 3 ranks means you can max out skills easier if it is drop based. 5 skill ranks means going for a 5 and instead getting a 4, which is a worse feeling then going for a 3 and instead getting a 2.
Also since skills have different effects outside of outright stat boosts, that means they can code less functions into the game if they keep it at 3. It's just lazy Bethesda at it again.
815e99 No.15127140
>>15127125
<fucking came here to post that.
i mean shit how the fuck are they going to do it without it being a total shitshow by mail mmo? i mean one of the resistance games had the sniper rifle have a "slow time" button and in co op it slowed shit down for your partner. is it going to be global? regional or an aim assist "feature"?
ccb37f No.15127147
>>15127133
that's the one he posted here, and the record when I searched it mentioned 4chan, tumblr, giphy, some site called chickensmoothie, and aminoapps.
All have crossover since 4chan is infested with tumblrfags, and you're a (1), in a thread full of (1)'s. we know about the IP changers, idiot. Do you think we don't know you?
e67d79 No.15127160
Normalnigger cattle will still buy it.
Bethesda knows this very well, they're so aware and blatant that they can keep out shitting godawful products and that they will sell, that they mock and use memes with ironic jokes while doing exactly what they are mocking.
Skyrim mobile and Alexa for example.
It's like the desecration of FalloutBoy, itself a parody of retarded unhiged limitless consumerism, that has now been reduced to a low quality garbage merchandising product as well
I want to see them burn, but it won't happen, normalfags will fellate them no matter what they put out, their fans are as mentally ill as Valvedrones or Blizzcucks.
http://archive.is/dL8dV
ccb37f No.15127162
>>15127133
>>15125236
On top of that, you're using a rare meme, that literally only has 16 results despite being made 3-4 years ago, and you can't have gotten it from here since it's literally never been posted on this site.
You came in with a cache of images at the ready, composed and retrieved on the day for a good ol day of shillin', in order to stay recent you likely picked it up from Google with a few searches. You're new, you're dumb, and you certainly have a worthless degree in communications if you're doing this job.
6c8180 No.15127166
>>15127123
>literally never seen that gif before
newfag get out
ccb37f No.15127172
>>15127166
>(1)
You never learn.
6c8180 No.15127176
>>15127170
>literally never seen that gif before
>reverse image search it
>fucking reddit
Get the fuck out shill, we have named you.
7fdd61 No.15127184
>>15127176
post counters are always gamergays (redditers)
ccb37f No.15127185
>>15127176
>doesn't know about gachimuchi
newfag confirmed. Get out.
e67d79 No.15127189
>>15127176
Google images
Heres one from a Polish website
6c8180 No.15127191
>>15127185
>literally never seen that gif before
>reverse image search it
>fucking facepunch
Get the fuck out shill, we have named you.
ccb37f No.15127196
>>15127191
ooh, we got a tantrum on our hands, how about this one?
ccb37f No.15127206
>>15127191
Also you're using a IP changer and we know this because you're having someone else's tantrum. The person I responded to with the tumblr Tineye was 5dcd75 who has yet to respond, and you're 6c8180, and after I told you about the IP changer you started to post sequentially in 6c8180's ID.
Game, set and match you faggot. You actually have no life.
e67d79 No.15127220
>>15127191
Now you're just blatant laddeh
2ef5a0 No.15127296
>>15127191
What a sad fuck
On topic, I can't wait for all the perk cards to be percentage increases instead of unique bonuses. Who would have thought removing the skill system means you need to have boring perks?
ccb37f No.15127305
>>15127284
you don't even know the context of that meme, do you? Oh my god this is amazing
5efca5 No.15127329
>>15127133
>Except his filename shows that he saved it from this here site
Several sites use the same sha256 hashes 8chan uses for their filenames, and practically anyone who isn't tech illiterate can easily find the sha256 hash of any file and rename the file to that hash.
>>15127185
>>15127196
He's mocking you. Stop taking the bait, he's obviously not being serious.
ccb37f No.15127381
>>15127329
>5efca5
>(1)
Sage the thread then on all future posts then, idiot.
efe92f No.15127467
but why are they doing West Vrginia which is a stone's throw from DC which they already did? they should do Cajun country so we can have mutant gators and radioactive swamps and a Texas DLC and shit
2218bb No.15127501
>>15127467
>Doing shit to not reuse assets
>Doing shit with some decent creativity
You sad delusioned fuck
ccb37f No.15127519
>>15127501
You just don't stop, do you?
2218bb No.15127535
>>15127519
You're even worse than him you fucking schizo.
eb118e No.15127558
>>15125236
What's it like being paid to do this shit?
Is the pay good?
Do you sometimes sit back and wonder how you fell so low?
1b8c34 No.15128178
>>15127467
Louisiana really wouldn't feel that different from Far Harbor though
9c6210 No.15128197
So basically it's forcing people to work together by forcing you to pick a "class" while teammates pick another class to cover what you lack.
An illusion of choice. A facade of freedom. A lie of liberty.
aaf6f1 No.15128203
.>>15128197
It really is an MMO. But without any good RPG mechanics.
2906c5 No.15128292
>>15128178
>Louisiana really wouldn't feel that different from Far Harbor though
So long as they kept to the southern portion of the state, largely around New Orleans, then there's a ton of culture and history there to play off of which utterly unique to the United States. I just wouldn't trust Bethesda to do it justice. Maybe Obsidian if they had been given a new Fallout to work on just after New Vegas, and before the cancer had entered the terminal phase.
Personally, West Virginia is a waste of a setting - especially for an online game. I would have loved to see a Fallout Online game set in seaways around Southern Florida, Northern Cuba, and Haiti/Dominican Republic - along parts of the old slave triangle routes. You'd be able to establish a ton of new factions and inter-factional conflict for the player to influence. There'd be a ton of open space between hub areas to give a proper sense of scale, lots of little hidden islands for the player to conquer. Lots of potential resources and trade/caravan/shipping routes to fight over either as part of a major faction - or as a freelancer.
It'd basically be a Somalian pirates of the Caribbean. You start off with a rickety old PT boat or something, and eventually capture larger and more impressive ships - outfitting them with gear you either take from the major factions, or are rewarded with for service. Eventually getting to the point where you're commanding your own floating settlement in the form of large carriers and oil tankers converted to pirate ships that you use for a base. You'd have to manage a growing crew/slave population, hiring on either certain talented recruits you have to quest for to manage aspects of your base for bonuses - or assigning companions to those leadership roles. Your morality/reputation would influence which companions would stick around and be available for those bonuses. If you play a "good" or well respected character, you'd get crew with bonuses to trade when in friendly ports and defense - while playing "evil" or infamous characters would attract a crew with bonuses and equipment more suitable to offense, movement speed, and would have more mercenary/privateer contracts to choose from.
Or not, whatever. Point is they actually could have done something interesting and grown the brand while sticking close to the themes of the earlier games, instead of just taking what they already had, reducing it to shallow iconography, and slapping it on a generic survival/resource game. But it's Fallout… you need Vaults and Super Mutants and Old Music, and bottlecap money, and Jet and the Enclave and all this other window-dressing shit - even if it doesn't make any fucking sense - because otherwise the casuals might get confused and not realize they were playing a Fallout game!
eb508f No.15128310
>>15122914
>>15123254
It's the same shit that DICE introduced in their Battlefront games that ruined the entire game experience. They knew that it was a dumb idea so they double-down by adding different levels for each card in Battlefront 2. In Bf2, on an encounter between 2 players of the same class, the one who has a set of star cards (max level or not) will win.
f94127 No.15128349
>>15127162
Holy fuck you're the biggest autist on earth lmao not your personal blog kys.
3523ec No.15128455
f94127 No.15128524
ce5901 No.15128653
>>15123402
Microsoft just added private server renting into the client so that when a kid wants to invite more players than his minecraftbox/pc can handle they can just spend store credit on it insted of going to a 3rd-party site where they don't understand 99% of shit in the "contract". You can still just do it the old way if you want.
If you wanna criticize them for something then at least make it about something meaningful like how they switched development to a native version which runs on windows store and DX 12 aka 2 DRMs, fucking over linux users, or how it throws away years of modding development, whilist making it thousand time more difficult moving forward and offeribg no substitute; I'm not talking just mods, I'm talking tools that help create mods, make them work together etc.
54a69f No.15128671
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15122914
Fallout 76 is here.
cda349 No.15128694
>>15125729
Anon, that's a 12 gauge sawed off shotgun.
for the love of all that is good, go to /k/ and inform yourself of the basics.
09e3b1 No.15128751
>>15128694
I think he's talking about how concentrated fire has vault boy almost sticking the 12 gauge against the damn leg.
4d8b9b No.15128779
4d8b9b No.15128782
>>15128671
I didn't ask for this.
dbc2a3 No.15142310
>>15128310
It makes money though doens't it?
71d8b8 No.15142508
>>15123716
I unironically would play the fuck out of this.
b67495 No.15144101
>>15128671
>there are people on this very site, maybe even this thread, that don't recognize the german audio
5ccc50 No.15144193
>>15144101
The amazing thing is that the kid from german audio grown up a chad, and the kid from ginger have souls grew up a tranny.
The more you know.
20eeb5 No.15144301
>>15144101
>>15144193
The german kid's video was acted, but the gingers have souls was most likely genuine.
d16e1d No.15144346
>>15144193
>>15144301
>the kid from ginger have souls grew up a tranny.
>the gingers have souls was most likely genuine.
I'm fairly sure CopperCab is playing a character for comedy. Just watch some of his most recent videos. Doesn't seem genuine to me, anyway.
754940 No.15144421
>>15124992
It's sad because it isn't even what people wanted. People wanted to fuck around with friends while running around The Mojave doing questsor DC if your a faggot and maybe occasionally would want to shoot someone else
Fallout: Battle Royale… Fucking hell. Who asked for this?
20eeb5 No.15144434
>>15144346
It does seem a bit too much to believe, but you never know.
d6a70d No.15144480
>>15144421
>Who asked for this?
Bethesda's accountants.
>>15122914
I'm really getting fed up of them parading out shit like the S.P.E.C.I.A.L system as some sort of credibility token with fans of the older games. It's just a dumb acronym fitted around standard RPG stats. It's like bragging about having weapons. Every game in the genre has it, yours just has a silly name. Meanwhile they've ruined all the uniqueness and fun of the Fallout leveling mechanics by homogenizing the perks system and making skills pointless percentage boosts.
754940 No.15144496
>>15144480
See, the thing is, without mods, this fucking beast is going to be naked. It will be buggy, it will be full of bad design decisions, and for once, redditors won't be able to easily dismiss criticism with the mods argument.
This could be the turning point
de51e7 No.15144533
>>15144193
Doesn´t amaze me at all. He had a girlfriend when he was only 12 years old. Guy´s always been a chad.
5b96a0 No.15144546
>>15144421
>People wanted to fuck around with friends while running around The Mojave
lol no. NV is severely lacking in enemies and dungeons, playing that with friends would get boring quickly. People wanted Fallout 4 with simple co-op features, not this retarded Fallout: Battle Royale shit.
bd1c4b No.15144582
>>15125263
Maybe it's as bot.
33bda4 No.15144599
>>15144480
>It's like bragging about having weapons.
Its like they never bragged about being able to choose gender. Bethesda always lowers their standards as low as possible, so users only expect the bare basics.
bd1c4b No.15144636
>>15144193
How tall is he? 6'8"?
fdde4d No.15144703
>>15125529
A abortion of a game.
71d8b8 No.15145171
>>15144193
>that lack of definition
Both look ugly in different ways.
3b05e1 No.15145394
>>15144703
>abortion
Don't you mean a miscarriage?
dc7aa4 No.15145677
>>15144421
>People wanted to fuck around with friends while running around The Mojave doing questsor DC if your a faggot and maybe occasionally would want to shoot someone else
Bethesda never learns this lesson. The entire reason why mods like Real-Time-Settler and Wasteland Defense were popular, was because they added content to an already complete and enjoyable game that people wanted to spend more time in. Bethesda just saw the mod was popular, decided to add it in as a core gameplay element, then cut out shittons of content that brought players to the franchise in order to make room in the time and financial budget. Then they wonder why nobody likes the features they added in. Never figuring out that it wasn't what they added, that pissed people off, but what they took away.
fdde4d No.15146231
>>15144421
I still remember the attempts to bring on-line to FO3. Bet people would even rather buy a FO4 MP Co-op port instead of that VR one.
76 does the FO4+MP, but in such shitty and jewish way. And CC being the only source of mods is rather inevitable. This MP is less consumer friendly than your average Early Access unity survival game.
Shit is too fucked.
8fa3cd No.15146279
Can this series get more casual? Maybe a mobile game?
09c2a0 No.15146430
>>15125236
(1)
how convenient
b40104 No.15146434
>>15146279
>maybe a mobile game
already exists
dc7aa4 No.15147163
>>15146231
>This MP is less consumer friendly than your average Early Access unity survival game.
It is an Early Access Gamebryo survival game. By ransoming the Beta to pre-orders (rather than just having a signup, or a contest, or limited time open beta), they are effectively selling an early access build and just calling it another name. Meanwhile, without mods to fix their incompetence, it's all but assured that FO76 will remain in an Early Access state well after retail release.
e8a82f No.15147646
>>15125529
>>15125470
Lol. It is new Assgreed. We would see 20 new Fallout games.
67c1da No.15147694
>>15125529
double nigger this game is going to sell a LOT.
36ae78 No.15147943
>>15123388
I don't even care about the game, unless someone cracks it so it's playable offline. I hope that since it's fucking fallout, somebody will get around to it eventually, thank goodness I don't have to get hyped for it, cause it looks like a lore breaking mess, anyways
36ae78 No.15147957
>>15125611
Yeah, nah, Looking at fallout's history, right before the IP got sold, we would just see more shit like POS, action oriented games for normalfags. Bethesda is no better, but at least F3 and F4 somewhat resembled a fallout game, and F3 could even be called an RPG, if you were drunk enough
What I am really pissed about is Van Buren. I know a lot of that content made it's way into NV, one way or another, but I want the real deal, the whole atmosphere of it was pretty great, and the story of Victor Presper and the New Plague was unironic kino
36ae78 No.15147973
>>15126587
It's almost like you can't roleplay at all, and just have to stick to a generic, pre written character again, or something like that. Now, WHERE Have I seen this before?
36ae78 No.15147996
>>15128292
Yeah, I'm not gonna play it, but if I see jet, I am not even gonna play this if it ever comes out as a cracked single player offline game. Enclave armor is one thing, super mutants still technically make sense from lore perspective because it's the ork supermutants from v87, not the mariposa mutants, and the mutant bats/dragons are stupid as shit, but I would be willing to overlook them as well
But if they include jet again, I'm not even gonna bother. That will be my breaking point
d6a70d No.15148638
>>15144496
Anon, most people who keep this shit going play on consoles. Millions of people think unmodded Skyrim, FO3, FO4 and NV are the only way to play those games. Most of the people I have worked with over the years who play games have played this series and eldar scrolls. All of them play on consoles. All of them love it. There's no accounting for taste, and most people have shit taste.
d6a70d No.15148642
>>15147996
They obviously will include jet because Fallout is now just a series of stale references and bland shooting mechanics. That's all there is to these games now. There's nothing of value left.
36ae78 No.15148772
>>15148642
I'm hoping that there are still a few good people in bethesda left who will bring this up, and maybe replace jet with some other chem. A lot of content in F3 and F4 would have been pretty good, if the execution was a bit better, ideas like the institute, settlement building, exploring ruins of D.C, they all sound great on paper, and if the team behind them had any talent, they could end up great, but as it stands, it's probably going to end up shit
dc7aa4 No.15149380
>>15148642
>They obviously will include jet because Fallout is now just a series of stale references and bland shooting mechanics.
It's shallow branding without substance or context.
87a176 No.15149391
>>15147996
They already retconned by adding color tvs.
And I hope nobody gives me that shit excuse of "b-but it's a control vault, that means higher tech".
0bce06 No.15149536
>>15149391
>And I hope nobody gives me that shit excuse of "b-but it's a control vault, that means higher tech".
Nevermind the fact that all the monitors in said control vault are still Green screens. I genuinely think the people at BSG are fucking retarded.
9d2b53 No.15152765
A Fallout MMO could actually work with factions and settlement building. Bethesda can't do anything right, they're my most hated developer.
5bcdf1 No.15152784
I don't really give a shit about the new games, I just want to listen to the new radio compilation.
16cee9 No.15153423
>>15123548
>As a person with 500h on Skyrim
>Mine officially bought FO4
>>>/cuckchan/
848e45 No.15153549
>>15147163
>By ransoming the Beta to pre-orders
Shit had forgotten that, reminder that the BETA is meant to "push" the limits.
Shit is ESO: Fallout Edition, but with comparable less content
d94fff No.15155735
I'm thankful that F:NV was made but it's disheartening to know that that is going to be as good as the series is ever going to be again.
So much neat things and ideas they could do with this series and all we are going to get is a buggy Rust clone with lootboxes. I'm not even angry, just sad that Fallout 3 is going to be the best game that Bethesda will ever make that resembles anything of the original games in terms of role playing, a well crafted story and lore and just the general vibe and spirit of the world.
dbc2a3 No.15168725
d50ead No.15168797
>>15122914
>You will be able to spend each perk in one of the seven S.P.E.C.I.A.L. categories. Instead of choosing a perk from a chart, the game will display three Perk Cards. Each card, with a max rank of three, offers a different perk, but you can only pick from one card, though.
This is dildoes. You just KNOW that the one you put off (and will therefore need the most, later on) won't reappear until it's far too late, if ever.
279bc2 No.15168825
I wanted to like this game but they are doing everything in their power to make me angry.
279bc2 No.15168854
>>15149380
I was so excited for fallout 3 I bought that collectors edition. That lunchbox was a better investment than the whole fucking game. The construction is solid and I still use it to store treasure like guitar picks and backstage passes from the gigs I work. The game was the worst part of the collector's edition. Not even moods could save it.
a1565b No.15170451
>>15123705
> having perks randomly dropped for you actually harder than choosing specific path for your build
There is one place I enjoy that and it's Pen and Paper because of my GM , If you do some cool/stupid/epic shit it might create a new perk for the world
I play a 3d20 system where 20 is worst ,there is a perk that you can unlock if you manage to roll natural 1 on all dices called "ace in my sleeve" which allows you to once per session change one of your results to a 1, my friend manage to throw natural 20 on all of his dices and we as a joke told the GM to make a perk "Shit in my sleeve" ,it allows you to change one of your enemy results to a 20 once per session ,Later in that session we found a big ass walking cannon Appleseed style and it decided to shot my friend , but since it wasn't activated for a long time GM made a durability check , and my dumb ass friend forgot about the perk ,that was made because of him, which would make the canon fail durability check and explode ,We died
5dcd75 No.15170497
>>15127123
That level of butthurt, I have never seen before. This place is fucking deadbrain territory. How do you even live? Does your mom suck more or less homeless cock when you post?
Also, fallout 4 sold more copies then any fallout, and that's what the fun of the post was.
Tl;Dr
Keep the cocksucking at minimum, please.
a1565b No.15170574
>>15146231
>FO4+MP
Only time I know something like this worked out is the Just Cause 2 multiplayer mod , and even those guys got to be part of the company which might be good for them but I would guess the mod went from free to paid for
a1565b No.15170668
>>15149380
Why do (((people))) like this make games ,How can you decide to make games but never in your life think "I would love to see that in this universe"
There is so much gameplay modes and things you can do in a Fallout/Post Apo setting , They should have mandatory Pen and Paper in Fallout universe to see what happens ,or some other way to get inspired for side quests
One of my sessions (the world is post apo mostly but mix of everything) ,one player found some old warehouse of this "patriots conglomerate" which was like If Elon Musk made a private Enclave ,and there was a medicav from starcraft there and some robots guarding it , he also found old repair crew suits , so he told the robots that he will go find a repair man for them ,He also found manaui for that medivac ,He took me there and tells me to wear this suit and if they ask me anything I should say that I am from the repair crew ,I had to roll some dice to read and remember the manual ,and then we started the thing up and stole it.We decided to fly to the west coast to check which factions is wining the war ,and GM threw a random encounter at us ,Dices made a really great coincidence and GM had to add a new creature to the world A big ass pterodactyl (the way his encouters works is based on dice , Friendly/Enemy ,and then types like machine/human/animal ) .So this pterodactyl decides that since we are the only other flying thing his size here ,we are probably some strange pterodactyl pussy ,He humpes the medivac from above ,I do some manuvers and get above , so I decide to take revenge and hump him with the medivac ,but he will have none of that gay shit , his claw got stuck on the wing and we are flying into a rock now , I decide to spin to try to get him off , and we just Black Hawk Down into the sand .At this point a player who was late comes in , and make an actual technician character , only flaw-half nigger half jew ,He fixes the medivac but takes out one part and says, you pay me a lot or we don't fly anywhere,so we start negotiating that we don't have much on us ,but our boss can pay him later and agreed that we all want to leave that place
d60e56 No.15170686
>>15170668
>so I decide to take revenge and hump him with the medivac
d6c923 No.15171411
Todd Howard Says Fallout 76 Isn’t Really Like Rust, DayZ Or Other “Survival” Games
>Fallout 76 has garnered mixed reactions from gamers and fans of Bethesda. Before the game’s announcement, some rumors popped up saying that it will be like Rust or DayZ. As of recent, Todd Howard has come forth to speak on the “survival” comparisons (regarding games like Rust and DayZ) and believes those claims aren’t accurate to what Bethesda Game Studios is currently developing.
>According to an interview that PC Gamer picked up regarding Todd Howard, we learn why Howard and Bethesda avoid using the word “survival” when describing Fallout 76.
>In addition to the above, this is done because “people’s minds immediately go to DayZ and Rust,” and Howard feels those comparisons are not really accurate for what the team is currently doing with Fallout 76:
<“We avoid the word ‘survival’, because people’s minds immediately go to DayZ and Rust and certain other games, and those comparisons are not really accurate for what we’re doing. If you think about the survival modes we’ve made in Fallout 4, it has that vibe… Fallout 76, although it’s an online game, when I play it, I mostly still play it solo. We like those experiences as much as our fans do.”
>Later in the interview, he explains that Fallout 76 will incorporate various features to keep the game balanced to prevent instances where a higher level person can run up to a level-1 (or beginner) and kill them instantly and steal all their stuff. His response to the above reads:
<“That’s not fun. Well, it’s fun for whoever killed you, but not for you… Death is already bad enough in a game, because you’re losing time, that we didn’t feel we needed to add any further penalty. We wanted to make sure you don’t lose your progression.”
>As it stands now, if you wish to test the game early, the mysterious beta with no due date can be accessed if you pre-order the game. Lastly, you can look for the actual game to land late this year on November 14th for PC, PS4, and Xbox One.
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/07/todd-howard-says-fallout-76-isnt-really-like-rust-dayz-or-other-survival-games/64146/#disqus_thread
cff0ec No.15171428
>>15171411
Another fucking Rust clone.
977cb4 No.15171451
>>15123731
>Then stop calling it a Fallout
We aren't the ones that called it Fallout.
>>15127162
>On top of that, you're using a rare meme, that literally only has 16 results despite being made 3-4 years ago
It's not a meme is it isn't popular, you fucking idiot.
>>15171411
>Fallout 76, although it’s an online game, when I play it, I mostly still play it solo. We like those experiences as much as our fans do.”
Then why did he make it online
946fb2 No.15171465
People just wanted to play with friends, Todd. You fucked it.
b26013 No.15173922
Pete Hines Talks Fallout 76 PvP, Tension And Not Having NPCs
An interview with Pete Hines that took place back during E3 was just recently published today, as GI.biz managed to get a hold of Bethesda’s SVP of global marketing and communications, Pete Hines, and hear his take on Fallout 76’s PvP, tension in the game, and what NPCs can’t offer in an open world filled with human players.
The publication site that struck up the interview with Hines happens to be gamesindustry.biz. When the publication site asked Hines about NPCs being in other games and not in Fallout 76, the site relayed that he argued this is actually “robbing players of more interesting interactions with their fellow humans.” His response in full sits below:
<“In Destiny, they still have NPCs. If you want to buy something you don’t go to other players – you can’t go to other players. You go to NPCs and say ‘I wanna buy this, I saved up enough of these things’.
In our game, if that’s how you want to play, you do that with other players, you trade with other people, you travel around the map and buy and sell stuff from folks. Or you can set up a shop. But it’s still a role-playing game. Yes, there’s an element of PvP but it’s not every man for himself and the last one standing wins. If you see somebody, you [don’t] have to kill them before they kill you because it’s not a shooter, it’s not battle royale or any one of 100 other things that people assumed that it was. It’s an RPG where you can still do quests and explore the world.”
According to Hines, Fallout 76 is “not” a Battle Royale game or anything like those “100 other things” that “people assumed” it to be. To him, Fallout 76 is an RPG at its heart.
Furthermore, Hines believes the way games are structured containing NPCs can take away from the overall experience. He believes NPCs remove some of the fear and excitement from the unknown of exploration:
<“In our previous games, if you’re walking up a hill and there’s an enemy NPC we’ve placed there, there’s a little red thing that shows up on your compass to say ‘that guy’s a bad guy’. We cheated for you. You already know. But [in Fallout 76] you don’t know anything about that person or what their motives are, unless you’ve come across them before.”
Nonetheless, the team is still working things out in Fallout 76 and looking to offer challenges, while building tension on the overall system without penalties when you die to something, say like a Deathclaw:
<“There are systems in place to keep it from turning into a gunfight if that’s not what people want. It does PvP but more like issuing challenges. And so we’re still figuring some of this out in playtesting, but the basic idea is you see somebody and there should be tension. In that respect it’s no different than I walk into a town in Fallout 4 and see a Deathclaw.
You could try five more times and die and then go ‘It’s too powerful for me, I’m gonna go away and do other stuff or just travel around this area and come back later. It should be exactly the same with anyone else. They shouldn’t be able to impede your progress, they can’t steal your shit, they can’t kill you.”
Continuing on about death and not wanting to punish players for it, Hines says that he and crew look to bring a feeling of “stranger danger” in the mix of Fallout 76:
<“Todd said before, we don’t want death to be a huge negative. It never stops your progression. There are ways to do that without it being punishing and annoying but still having a bit of that ‘stranger danger’ – is that a friend or foe? Do they think I’m a friend or I’m a foe? How do I want this to play out?”
Although the actual interview did not end here, the final part of this piece revolves around Hines’ observation on how it’s technically not necessary to trade with an NPC in Fallout 4, or any other Bethesda RPG. The robust item system in their games means players can deal with grim times when no one sets up shop in their area of the map:
<“Trading stuff is a pain in the ass. So [people] would use guns and weapons they found to break those down into the parts they needed to upgrade their own stuff and use the ammo that they find. You can do that.
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/07/pete-hines-talks-fallout-76-pvp-tension-and-not-having-npcs/64209/
b3a2e4 No.15174041
>>15173922
>To him, Fallout 76 is an RPG at its heart.
>Pete "I don't like dialogue, I have no attention span, I wish I could just walk away and shoot this character in the face" Hines
>Being in any way qualified to say what is and isn't an RPG
9e36a2 No.15174066
>>15171411
>Todd Howard Says Fallout 76 Isn’t Really Like Rust, DayZ Or Other “Survival” Games
Donotbelievehislies.jpg
71d8b8 No.15174082
>>15171451
>Then why did he make it online
>he
The company wants to make it online. Battlecry made it online. He didn't.
fd1b72 No.15174116
>>15174041
To play devil's advocate here, there are some gaming monologues where I wish I could just shoot the sumbitch in the face as an interrupt ME2 style.
8344c5 No.15174358
>>15171411
>first they talk about how online is a "different" thing, to shadow issues
>now its "not a survival game guys"
It has not released yet and there is already damage control for it. And the sweet lies.
e75798 No.15174370
>>15174116
They should have kept the dialogue box and still have the ability to walk away during dialogue
1ad1b8 No.15174380
Watching Bethesda handle the Fallout franchise is like watching my favorite childhood pet get raped to death. The worst part is that they don't even understand that what they're doing is bad and expect me to be happy about it. "Why are you sad that I'm murdering Mr. Fluffy? Don't you like it? I'm doing this for YOU!"
b3a2e4 No.15174544
>>15174116
>To play devil's advocate here, there are some gaming monologues where I wish I could just shoot the sumbitch in the face as an interrupt ME2 style.
Yeah, everybody has, but usually it's because of bad writing making the exchange unbearable - or good writing making you genuinely hate a character. Pete's excuse is "I have no attention span", meaning he doesn't give a fuck about stories and just wants shallow violence for violence sake - which is fine, but not in an RPG where storyline is a vital component to the game since that's the context that you're going to be playing the role in. Dialogue is a vital component to worldcraft, since it informs about the world around the player by giving outside opinions and perspectives on it and the choices you're expected to make.
And you know it's a horse-shit marketing line anyhow, because if his attention span and disdain for dialogue was really that feeble, then he'd never make it six months as a project manager in any company - even a company as shitty as Bethesda. So you know damned well he's lying, and he's lying in service of telling long-term fans of Fallout as RPGs to go get fucked - this is casual game for the masses now. The kind of potato-headed retards who similarly have short attention spans and will clap and hork like fucking seals at someone saying that line, because somebody is now making "RPGs for the rest of us".
b26013 No.15177610
I'l be posting from time to time small selection from bethesda interviews, if you aren't against it.
Todd Howard: Another Third-Party Fallout Game “Less Likely”, Doubts Morrowind or Fallout 1 Remasters Will Happen
>While the Fallout community tends to polarize between purists who think Fallout 1 and 2 are the pinnacle of the franchise while others think Fallout: New Vegas is the best entry of the franchise, it seems like Bethesda isn’t keen on letting a third-party studio handle their lucrative IP again.
>The news comes from an interview with living god and savior Todd Howard and The Guardian, where the Bethesda boss said while they loved Fallout: New Vegas, they’re probably going to keep development on the franchise internal moving forward.
<“I wouldn’t say never,” Howard said. “[But] now that our company is so big, it’s always better to keep stuff internal … it becomes less likely, but I could never say never. I thought the Obsidian guys did a fabulous job.”
>Howard also talked up another running gag with the developer, the re-releases of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, when asked about another common fan demand: remaking older Fallout or Elder Scrolls games.
<“I’m happy that you can play Morrowind now on an Xbox One, as it’s backwards compatible. I’m really happy that Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and others are making it easier for people to play [older games] as they were played at the time. I actually prefer that over remasters,” he said. “I’d rather you play Morrowind the way it was … I think the age is part of its identity.
<“For Skyrim Remastered, we had done some work on it but it was already pretty visually close. But for something like Morrowind, my personal preference is not to remaster it. We [also] get asked a lot to remaster [1997’s] Fallout 1, and I usually say, if you have a PC you can play Fallout the way it was. I think that’s how it should be. I think streaming technology is definitely coming, and it’s gonna make people’s access to games infinitely easier. You’ve seen it happen to music and movies and I think it’s a great thing.”
>While Howard’s stance on internal development is mostly spot on, spin-off titles like The Elder Scrolls Online (Zenimax Online Studios, although they are owned by Bethesda’s parent company) and Fallout Shelter (Behaviour Interactive) have done well and mostly fallen in line with their existing IPs.
http://nichegamer.com/2018/07/19/todd-howard-another-third-party-fallout-game-less-likely-doubts-morrowind-or-fallout-1-remasters-will-happen/
b57185 No.15177877
>>15177610
TLDR; "Would you fucking losers stop asking me to work on Fallout and Elder Scrolls already".
7e927a No.15177939
>>15174380
i dont think someone can have such strong emotional attachment to a game franchise, perhaps a specific iteration of it, but not as a whole, or that's the way i see it, as it was never guaranteed that a new game from it was necesarily a good game and could always come up to ruin the reputation it had
dbc2a3 No.15179996
>>15177610
A Morrowind remaster is more likely than Fallout I'd say since they can just reuse the same engine.
fa077c No.15190887
>>15177610
Who cares what that manlet says?
a1338e No.15190903
>>15179996
Then put a sai filter on the textures and call it a day. 79.99.
29232d No.15190927
>>15177610
>he said. “I’d rather you play Morrowind the way it was … I think the age is part of its identity."
And so Todd Howard's redeemption arc has begun…
4d304f No.15191005
Aand my interest is gone. I'll pirate it
99d2bb No.15191014
>>15191005
How will you pirate always online?
4d304f No.15191053
>>15191014
It is? Then, just fuck it
84af7e No.15191123
>>15190927
>And so Todd Howard's redeemption arc has begun…
Redemption? That's called a platitude to excuse them from ignoring everything prior to Skyrim - the one game in their catalog that actually broke through and sold to the masses. Morrowind won't get a remake because it won't sell. That's it, and it sounds bad to come out and say it.
Shit, even Skyrim didn't get a remake. They just took the R&D build of FO4 (which literally WAS just modified Skyrim) which they already had on-hand and cleaned it up for a commercial release. $60 shekels please, you dumb fucks.
2cb8e4 No.15191139
>>15144480
>I'm really getting fed up of them parading out shit like the S.P.E.C.I.A.L system as some sort of credibility token with fans of the older games. It's just a dumb acronym fitted around standard RPG stats
Technically it's a fa/tg/uys private joke about G.U.R.P.S. (Generic Universal Role Playing System, which Fallout should have used if Steve Jackson wasn't such a controlling prick).
2fe05f No.15191171
>>15191123
They are really gonna pull a Fallout and TeS are in the same universe are they.
80e8c4 No.15191627
>>15122914
So, some loot crate ccg tie-in? Disgusting
1544a9 No.15192636
>>15191171
>Oblivion with guns meme end up leading into merging the lore of TeS and Fallout
Same engine turning into same universe, please no
b40104 No.15192679
>>15191171
>>15192636
Oh good god do I need this. The asspain would be biblical.
1544a9 No.15192696
>>15192679
Argonian and Kajit porn in a Fallout setting would become a thing, even lore friendly.
inb4 it already exists
5bfd71 No.15192727
>>15190927
no, it's not his fucking redemption arc, redditor. he very clearly doesn't understand what made morrowind good. it's not the fucking age and dated systems. the dude is a hack and will always be a hack
1940f7 No.15192751
>>15191171
And It's all going to have it's own card game spin off.
bee9d8 No.15193279
bee9d8 No.15193338
>>15173922
>Hines believes the way games are structured containing NPCs can take away from the overall experience
A pox upon his house.
> [in Fallout 76] you don’t know anything about that person or what their motives are
>They shouldn’t be able to impede your progress, they can’t steal your shit, they can’t kill you
>the basic idea is you see somebody and there should be tension. In that respect it’s no different than I walk into a town in Fallout 4 and see a Deathclaw.
Contradictory mess so they can't kill you or steal any shit but there should be tension on par with a Deathclaw fight…. Why? How? Does this nigger know anything about games at all?
b57185 No.15194138
>>15193338
> In that respect it’s no different than I walk into a town in Fallout 4 and see a Deathclaw.
So basically no tension at all, because the first Deathclaw fight in FO4 was a turret section at best.
Hines is such a retard, its obvious he doesn't even play their games.
03b4d7 No.15194224
>>15192751
>Anthropomorphic Kwama
I wish this game and its art didn't exist.
13083b No.15194298
>>15192696
There's porn of specifically Katia and a Deathclaw. I'm not a furry
3b45b7 No.15194301
>>15194138
Worse than that, he does play their games but he's exactly the sort of player that shouldn't. He's a braindead retard with no attention span or care for detail. The reason all of their games are targeted towards brainlet children is because he is one.
448ec5 No.15194303
>>15192679
There won't be any asspain anon, only appreciation.
0ea355 No.15195807
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>>15147957
You say that like if Bethesda weren't the ones who got the rights to it the rights to it wouldn't have been on auction. Y'know Troika were one of the other companies bidding for the rights to it?
0ea355 No.15195812
>>15191171
That's what the person who first leaked the existence of Starfield claimed.
a8c4ef No.15195819
>>15195812
I have a working theory that Starfield is actually Elder Scrolls 40k. Just like there's warhammer fantasy and 40k warhammer in space, there will be elder scrolls in space.
0ea355 No.15195825
>>15195819
First of all, Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Fantasy don't actually share a setting like that - there are cheeky nods between the two, but they don't share any kind of history between eachother; they're two different universes that just have a few parallels between each other.
Secondly, putting aside that "space" doesn't really exist in TES's setting like that, we already know what TES's equivalent to a space-faring era looks like ( https://www.imperial-library.info/content/kinmune ) and it is a wonderfully alien world that Bethesda wouldn't ever touch with the longest pole you could think of.
9a8f78 No.15195843
>>15194298
Yes, lets pretend it was a accident
>>15194303
A Kajit that got frozen in a vault and somehow joined BOS, only mods can make fanfic real.
reminds of a weapon mod, with text logs about a doggo woman being part of the NCR and coming to Boston
0ea355 No.15195848
>>15195819
>>15195825
But none of this is to say that Bethesda wouldn't try to actually pull that bullshit. I don't have the screencap handy, but the person who leaked Starfield claimed the timeline was supposed to have Fallout in it first, Starfield in it second, and then TES in it third, as ~the distant future after "time-wounds" have taken hold~ - not like it makes any fucking sense trying to cram TES in there at all, of course.
cf77d5 No.15195853
>>15195848
>TES is the future of Fallout
d473e3 No.15195854
>>15146279
Fallout
>Nuclear weapons are used by shortsighted and greedy governments looking to sustain their consumption, annihilating almost all of humanity in 17 minutes
Fallout 1
>Master, a delusional man with a savior complex and an utopian vision trying to turn people into ubermensch mutants to make life in harsh nuclear wasteland has a nuke as a last resort weapon, doesn't use it
Fallout 2
>A Saturday morning cartoon villain-tier faction and remnants of US government holds a nuclear weapon, doesn't use it against NCR or any of the factions.
Lonesome Road
>A broken and deranged man wants to annihilate two civilizations as an act of revenge against a perceived wrongdoer, yet in reality an agent of pure chance.
>Can still be talked out of it
Fallout 76
>Someone stole your sweetroll? xDDDD bazinga, or shot you in the kneee? xDDDD
>HAHA EPIC MEME MY DUDES, LET'S LAUNCH AN IRBM
I hate bethesda so fucking much.
0ea355 No.15195921
>>15195853
Didn't you read the secret textlog in Fallout 76 that explains all the lore about how the radiation from the nukes is causing the universe with its physical laws and reliable spacetime to transform into a pocket dimension with its laws of physics governed by fickle spirits (who have an actual history that does not fit any of this whatsoever)? :^)
>>15195854
>A Saturday morning cartoon villain-tier faction and remnants of US government holds a nuclear weapon, doesn't use it against NCR or any of the factions.
It's not addressed seriously at all in Fallout 2 proper, but the US government-in-exile do have a real point in their plan to wipe FEV from the Earth: FEV is going to drastically alter the Earth's biosphere, and it's very likely going to soon get to the point where not even the aerosol anti-FEV agent that they planned to use would be enough to wipe it out properly. Their anti-FEV agent could be seen as a last-ditch option - and one that there might not even be much time left to use. Just imagine the bottom-feeders in the environment becoming affected by FEV and the whole food chain breaking as a result, for one example of the sort of fuckery FEV could cause. With that sort of thing in mind, is it even worth preserving the current biosphere of the Earth, and FEV-affected humanity with it, knowing that in just a matter of centuries FEV could cause massive changes to the way the Earth's biosphere works that would result in humanity going extinct anyway? Well the Enclave are gone now (Bethesda's Fallout games aren't canon :^) ), so if FEV getting to remain in the biosphere would cause humanity to go extinct - humanity's going to go extinct now.
9a8f78 No.15195958
>>15195921
This reminds of Fallout 3's supernatural shit being implied in both base game and dlc.
Thats too many ways in the retardation escale.
d08a92 No.15195969
>>15195921
>Well the Enclave are gone now
It's almost explicitly stated in New Vegas that there's still at least one Enclave stronghold in Chicago. That's where ED-E got the Illinois license plate with his name on it. It's obvious that the Enclave are able to communicate over long distances to some extent (or at least have maps of known strongholds) if Whitley knows that there's any Enclave presence in the Midwest and West Coast. That being said, it's not impossible that they have knowledge of the anti-FEV both coasts have.
3bf201 No.15196087
>>15127162
I've seen it posted at least twice here, but you are right about it being a rare.
78e8b8 No.15196126
>>15144421
>or DC if your a faggot
3 has a better map, fite me faget
47906c No.15196129
>>15171411
>>15122914
To think that they would actually have a better chance releasing 76 as a "Make your own Fallout game" with Creation Kit being optimized for it. Charge full price and rely on some 3rd party hosting site like Nexusmods to rake in all the cash without worrying about copyrights.
I say this because I think people would prefer to buy the engine rather than the game itself due to how often actual developers fuck up their shit especially when it comes to remasters. More so when they're done with the series like Dark Souls. I mean shit, I would rather pay 60 dollars for the barebones engine/mod tools than the remasters.
9007ce No.15196152
>>15195854
you forgot
Fallout 3
>City built around an nuclear bomb
>Roughly half the town worships it
29232d No.15196224
>>15196152
I think you didn't get his point. Nukes weren't just a lol-so-randumb thing in Fallout. Welp, yeah it became that with Fallout 4 where you can convince a chinese submarine captain to launch nukes at your marked locations (means: 2-3 meter away from you, because fuck logic).
Damn… i think bethesda has no fucking clue how a nuke works…
a731f2 No.15196282
>>15149380
Don't you just love how Vault Boy was made to parody a shady conglomerate establishing a brand with a cheery mascot to encourage more consumerism, and masking just how disingenuous they really were? Here we are two decades later, Bethesda having fully assimilated Vault Boy as one of their mascots and plastering him all over merchandise they sell to these gullible fucktards. The irony of it all.
d473e3 No.15196418
>>15196152
i tried to repress that.
>>15196129
That's what Konami should do with Survive's iteration of fox engine which isn't gimped and has around 50~ NPC's on screen at a given time.
>>15196224
I didn't play shitout 4 so I couldn't find a good example of bethesda's tremendous fuckup, and I've completely forgotten about F3 nukecity.
7fdd61 No.15196437
>>15196282
90s anti-consumerism lives on in faggots that still refuse to accept that these are still products of consumerism and are just self aware. Still makes me laugh that games funded by big corporations for platforms ran by big corporations frequently featured villains that were the embodiment of big corporations.
Of course the people that get hyper-defensive about it are somehow too stupid to see this. You've been had, sucker.
a731f2 No.15196485
>>15196437
I never said Bethesda wasn't self aware of what they're doing though. I was talking about nu-Fallout fans buying into it.
7fdd61 No.15196496
>>15196485
I'm talking about old fallout fans as if they ever had a leg to stand on
a731f2 No.15196532
>>15196496
Again, you take my post as some kind of anti consumerist statement as if I ever claimed Vault Boy was anything but a self aware parody. Besides, it's not like writers aren't allowed to satirize a principle that allowed their product to be funded in the first place.
7fdd61 No.15196538
>>15196532
You're severely missing the point here.
87639b No.15196703
>>15195848
>>15195853
>mfw the final Elder Scroll turns out to be just a pic of Vaultboy screaming as the dragons descend towards him
84af7e No.15196833
>>15195969
It's almost explicitly stated in New Vegas that there's still at least one Enclave stronghold in Chicago.
Was. ED-E was sent there for repair and resupply on his way west, shortly before Adams AFB was destroyed, but never made contact. He ended up getting taken in by a family after the kid and his dad found him, and repaired by the mom. Maybe she was an Enclave remenant. Maybe she was ex-Midwestern Brotherhood, or trained by them, or was just a genuine robotics autist. In any case, he's implied to have never made contact.
My autistic theory is that Bethesda does actually consider the generalities of Tactics to be canon - but scrubbed the details so as to better fit future games. Since the Enclave armor on the East Coast actually resembles Midwester Brotherhood armor, I suspect the Enclave raided the Midwestern BoS for tech and supplies on the way east - which they then retrofitted for their purposes using mk2 pa tech for enhancements. Whether the Chicago outpost existed before, or was established during, the Enclave's flight to the East - it wasn't fortified enough to handle the wasteland around Chicago or a retaliation by the Midwest BoS.
If so, the midwest BoS holds a presence in massive territories - since even Caesar was running into their spies and scribes on the Eastern border of Legion territory.
22050d No.15196876
This is actually pretty exciting. If they make a Switch port, they could sell actual, physical cards with RFID in them that you then scan as Amiibo.
Fallout 76 for Switch == GOTY
53213d No.15196929
Bethesda don't even do perks right.
Ever since FO3 it's either been a skill boost or a damage modifier and not an actual perk.
a7dcfa No.15196931
>>15127160
Jokes on you anon, normal fags will be too busy tripping over themselves talking about how awesome Red Dead Redemption 2 online is.
64756b No.15197818
>>15196931
>Jokes on you anon, normal fags will be too busy tripping over themselves talking about how awesome Red Dead Redemption 2 Fortnite online is.
Fixed it for you.
0ea355 No.15198174
>>15195958
Don't forget Fallout 4 adding ancient aliens to the canon :^)
And then putting ~an ancient alien city~ underneath Las Vegas :^)
d50a7a No.15198177
>>15198174
There was even a phrase somewhere that everything happened in mojave was work of aliens.
84af7e No.15198424
>>15198177
No, there wasn't. There was a side-quest character that mentioned an alien city under the mojave, but it's never implied that the events of New Vegas were caused by it.
At best, you might be able to use it to explain the Tunnlers in Lonesome Road and maybe the Wanamingos of FO2, which are basically just very liberal direct references to the Alien movies. So far as I know, those are the only two creatures in Fallout which don't seem to draw lineage from any known ancestry or known genetic experiments. Pretty sure the tunnelers were intended to be a species that existed for centuries pre-war, but were never discovered until their nest under the divide was disturbed by all the subterranean nuclear detonations. Still, Bethesda could be asshats and say the events at the Divide breached the alien city and let it's creatures out or some dumb shit.
0ea355 No.15199129
>>15198424
>Pretty sure the tunnelers were intended to be a species that existed for centuries pre-war, but were never discovered until their nest under the divide was disturbed by all the subterranean nuclear detonations
N-no. What did I say about FEV?
fd2d1c No.15199200
>>15196833
In FO4 BOS is able to have a big army and tons of vetrbirds in a flying base. Funny how apparently there is no networking between the BOS chapters, since air transportation got achieved in this level at FO4.
Talk about bad writing and missed opportunity to quote any in depth impact of such advancement for the faction.
>>15198174
>eldritch horrors
>ancient aliens, not counting the aliens themselves
Bethesda keeps jumping the shark
86afc9 No.15199381
>>15127196
>Metaknight is a goodboy who is responsible and eager
>Marx is a sarcastic shithead reading manga in class
I like this
c0786f No.15199394
>>RNG a Perk
>>woah revolutionary
its not
84af7e No.15199836
>>15199129
It's possible they're a result of FEV, or of a government lab experiment, or just radiation. It's never really explained where they came from, what they were before being mutated, and at best Ulysses just speculates on when they might have originated.
I don't have any proof of my speculation either, that's just the general vibe I get from them and the setting. Especially coming off of OWB, it reeks of being a lesson about the arrogance of mankind's assumption of knowing the world they inhabit, to the point of splitting the atom and exploring space, but not having a clue as to what may exist just below their feet. In real life, we have better maps of Mars than we do of our own planet - specifically the ocean floor, for example
Or maybe I've just seen too many monster movies about subterranean critters in the American Southwest.
78e8b8 No.15200592
>>15196703
>>15195853
>>15195848
>TES is the future of fallout
that doesn't make sense, the earth doesn't suddenly get a second moon, and nirnroot was in a lab in fallout 4
if anything the timeline would go TES - Fallout - Starfield or Starfield then Fallout, but in either case TES by far would be first
5b878e No.15200627
>>15200592
On the contrary. TES has the idea of degradation. The more time passes the more shit everything gets.
78e8b8 No.15200720
>>15200627
>going from magic to mutants and lasers
>implying it isn't degradation
551ff8 No.15209193
>>15196876
>Fallout 76 for Switch == GOTY
No.
1940f7 No.15209848
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15128292
>I would have loved to see a Fallout Online game set in seaways around Southern Florida, Northern Cuba, and Haiti/Dominican Republic
>He Doesn't Know
1940f7 No.15209867
>>15209848
At this point these modders have to be on the dole. I'm not even talking about creation club.
There have been nearly four different total conversion mods for Fallout 4 i've seen so far, and there's that skyrim-tamriel thing that released half of cyrodil and high rock.
There Is no amount of autism that could make modders do all these overhauls so quickly. Somebody is moving money around to do all this.
84af7e No.15213041
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15209848
>Expansion to FO4/Not a TC
>About the size and length of Far Harbor
>Requires all FO4 DLC
>Uses the Lone Wanderer rather than having you start from scratch
I know about it, but I don't care, and that's nothing remotely even close to what I'm talking about aside from taking place in Miami. I won't be able to play it anyhow, because while I admit I was dumb enough to buy FO4 - I didn't get any of the DLC and don't plan to. Played it once and was done until mods fixed it, but the mod community went to shit because the game is trash and paid mods.
Maybe if Fallout Cascadia turns out to be good, and requires the DLC - I'll buy those for access to the mod and just pretend that FO4 doesn't exist and Cascadia is canon. It's quite a bit more ambitious than FO:Miami though - so it'll never ever come out.
But at least they plan to bring back skills, traits, perks, and the classic dialogue system. So maybe in 10 years when it releases, it'll be something truly special. Also, those ghouls with beachwear are the kind of inane "randumb" that Bethesda would put in one of their official games just because some asshole mid-level artist thought it would be hilarious, and it rubs me completely the wrong way.
5242ca No.15213074
>>15213041
You can easily pirate the DLC. They're effectively implemented like mods. As long as the mod doesn't have some next level obnoxious DRM you should be able to play with pirated DLC with no issues, even on a legit copy on steam.
84af7e No.15213089
>>15213074
I'll probably end up doing just that, but I just haven't cared enough to even bother as of yet.
82e008 No.15213091
Hopefully there's some way to turn (((multiplayer))) off. Idgaf about perks/stats as long as it's decent and moddable. Who wants to look at numbers n menus, it's a vidya, not a tabletop game.
312fdf No.15216897
>>15213091
It's not going to be decent, but do continue not giving a fuck. You're the real trooper.
f026bd No.15216903
>>15125548
Why do they even keep Pete around?
5066e1 No.15216973
>>15125236
>>15127162
Shills are stupid. Who would have thought.
>>15127133
Speaking of being desperate to fit in, you're failing to.
ebd596 No.15217227
>Fallout seventy shits
>Just rust with a AAA developer.
Trash.
fd1b72 No.15217541
>>15209867
>there is no amount of autism that could make moddeers do all these overhauls so quickly
I think you underestimate both the power of concentrated autism and just how irredeemably bad FO4 was. I don't think Bethesda would bother paying modders secretly when they know that people are just going to do it anyway.
c1999d No.15225868
Can't wait for the Fag to run it into the ground. 4 was a good start, but they surely can do better.
Keep flogging that dead horse, boy. Give it that Horse armor.
4d8ed6 No.15226236
>>15124952
>>15125462
>Go back to 5th grade and shut the fuck up
Take it up with Ethan if you have a problem with the formatting nigger
c6ce90 No.15226291
>>15174544
>but not in an RPG where dialogue is a vital component to worldcraft
The vital component to a role playing game is you getting not talk anyone in this particular town (for whatever reason) and letting you figure out how heck you're going to get yourself oit of this mess again now?
5d5a1b No.15226302
>>15226236
What the fuck are you even talking about?
4d8ed6 No.15226320
>>15226302
the guy who wrote the article you dumb nigger
dbc2a3 No.15236753
>>15225868
Normalfags will still buy it.