/v/ - Video Games

I pirated it a ways back. It would be a decent game if not for the "roguelite" meme. As it is there's no proper level design and it's shit.

>>15122403

I bought and shortly thereafter refunded. pretty much the same impressions and retarded progression system for a roguelite

>>>15122403

>>15122428

>play game with mechanic I hate

>boy do I hate this fucking mechanic

>>15122430

>pirate a game that looks like it might be okay

>can't enjoy it because of a shitty mechanic that's shoehorned into every single indie game ever

You would have a point if indie game devs weren't the laziest sacks of shit on the planet. Nobody wants to put effort into level design so they make boring fucking chunks of levels, makes a zero-effort procedural generation algorithm and slap "roguelike" into the game description.

>>15122482

>rogue-lite

>metroidvania

>action-platformer

>2D souls-lite

>tags: Early access Rogue-like Metroidvania Rogue-lite

This is a joke, right?

This description was precision engineered by a team of NASA scientists to give people cancer, wasn't it?

I never want to see the term "souls-lite" again, or I might go doom-lite on a couple of indie studios

>>15122586

The funniest part is it werks.

>>15122586

it's actually a fun game

Game's genuinely fucking fantastic, y'all are just sperging out.

FTL is a roguelite, and it's the single best game ever created, and probably will be for many years to come.

When is it coming to Switch?

>>15122430

>>15122482

>no negative criticism allowed!

Fuck off, shill. People don't diss your shit game because they're not the ebin roguelite audience. They do because after playing through one, they're able to see the strings attached: most rogues are bad games that no one would play, without the timewasting component.

Bring us good games that are also replayable. Not shit ones that one is supposed to invest so much time into, that he starts to like it out of stockolm syndrome.

>>15122296

(((early access)))

>>15123658

Anything specific they fucked over the course of development up till now, or just pointing out how it will probably turn out being early access and all?

>Early access

>Visuals are complete shit

>Couldn't even be bothered to do proper sprites

>Fuck all content

The progression is an absolute clusterfuck, and once you get all of the paths, there's practically no reason to take any of them

And the metroidvania abilities that should all be worked into the moveset are mostly stupid lazy "press a button on this environmental specific glowing object to cross this uncrossable barrier" shit because anything more would make level design harder

There's also a clock hanging over the whole game that gives continuous rewards and encourages running past every single enemy in the game

They could also have put more work into weapon movesets

I just want isaac with gameplay that isn't a retarded bullet hell, is that really too much to ask

>>15124509

But

>The progression is an absolute clusterfuck, and once you get all of the paths, there's practically no reason to take any of them

>There's also a clock hanging over the whole game that gives continuous rewards and encourages running past every single enemy in the game

>They could also have put more work into weapon movesets

Is absolutely accurate for Isaac as well. I give you metroidvania aspect being shit, but otherwise DS is exactly isaac with gameplay that isn't a retarded bullet hell.

>>15124509

>"press a button on this environmental specific glowing object to cross this uncrossable barrier"

I can't stand this about Metroidvanias. You may as well have just given them a key instead. The obstacle you're trying to get past should still be dangerous, just actually possible to get around now that you have the thing and know how to use it properly.

>>15124551

Isaac doesn't really have paths to speak of, definitely nothing close to what this game has

And the timer is pretty lenient, and only gives you rewards on the back half of a run, and only if you can beat some of the most bullshit things in the game to get them

And it's physically impossible to run past all the enemies unless you have infinite bombs or get lucky with teleport shenanigans, in which case you're missing out on important drops

They're really not comparable experiences

>>15122296

I loved it for about a month then got tired of their updates constantly erasing my progress and shelved it. From what I've heard recent changes have caused builds to become less fun. I won't touch it again until I get confirmation that their updates won't erase my progress.

>>15122296

Don't support early access. Do get it at release if you like the gameplay of Metroidvanias. The game is pretty comfy while listening to some podcast.

>>15124628

The save files are 2 dat files. How can you fuck that up so horribly, that all the progress from the one holding the runes and items you already doesn't apply for the release version?

>>15124925

woah what is this stem cell meme?

>>15125180

beat the game

>>15125180

A sort of new game plus like system. Beating the final boss gets you the first one. Beating him again with it active gets you the second one and so on until four. Each one you have active increases the difficulty of the game by reducing the amount of flask refills available in the game but also giving you access to hidden routes and shops and shit.

>>15125482

Don't forget about added enemies in earlier levels. So with one stem cell you can get lvl 3 enemies in lvl 1.

>>15122296

>Anyone else tried it?

Nearly every ounce of my spare time in the last 3 weeks.

>Favorite weapon?

My ideal loadout is usually firebrand+iceshard and 2 heavy turrets. The slow from iceshard is enough to make all the lategame heavyhitters laughably slow and they get stuck in your fire aoe. Heavy turrets dish out an insane amount of damage and by the end of the game if you take the tactics cooldown mutation you'll be sitting at 80%+ cooldown reduction so the turrets will always be with you.

>>15124787

>destroyed by common trash or get cornered by a some bullshit enemy like Slasher and that fat assfaggots faggot.

You wouldn't believe how many times I've been combo'd from full by a jumping zombie into some exploding shit that I just moved out of the way from.

The fat fucks don't bother me so much anymore. If you get grabbed, there's a tiny window before he strikes that you can roll away, mashing like a madman usually gets it for me.

>Favorite weapon?

Heavy crossbow, ice blast Alchemical carbine, dual daggers and don't forget impaler plus assault shield.

>>15125838

My favorite assholes are the hooded guys in the Ossuary. Fuck undead shield bearers as well.

My favourite weapon is probably the spiteful sword, the moveset's really nice with its 3rd hit kick, gives it good versatility.

I'm a fan of parrying so making use of the vengeance mechanic is trouble though, as optimal use would mean taking the front line shield, which can't parry.

>>15128278

oh yeah that combo is fucking juicy

two ice grenades, less grenade cooldown mutation, reforge them for x4 slow so you rotate the grenades, assassin's dagger with 175% frozen damage and+20% critical hit

Burning builds are also fun, and they can go with anything

>>15124509

that's not true. You go to other paths to hunt for rare blueprints. but yes, after that, because it's on Early access right now the optimal path is taking the one that lets you access the prison depths since it's one extra level so you can get more upgrades. but eventually that will be evened out

Regarding the clock, the clock rooms are more like a"here's some upgrades since you skipped them because you went so fast" catch up and not min-max optimal. It's only there if you're speedrunning it

>>15135221

>clock rooms not min-max optimal.

Lol look at this retard who can't even clear maps and do clock rooms