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43ad7f No.15119423

How long until they fix the hand to hand combat in the GTA series?

It goes back and forth from being good to shit all the time through the series.

Gta 3:

>Hand to hand combat was horrible,couple punches and kicks.Nothing to see here

Gta Liberty city stories(psp):

>Complete garbage,pretty much worse than Gta 3.Very few moves,broken combat(the body punch doesnt even work)

Gta Vice City:

>A little better,more variety in the moves,better "feel" to the strikes themselvs,the aiming was also better.Kicks,knees,punches.

Gta Vice city Stories:

>Great hand to hand combat system.Not only did you have a couple of good combos mixing punches and kicks but you could also grapple.From the grapple position you could throw weak/strong punches,knee,snap their neck and even throw them to the ground.Also blocking/easy to parry.

Gta San Andreas:

>Great combat system(s)

>Punches(from different styles),martial arts kicks,clinch and knees,ground attacks

>Learn boxing,karate,dirty fighting

>Basic blocks

Gta4:

>Removed the ability to learn styles

>Ability to counter the movies(with good variety of counter attacks)

>Dodge punches,parry

>Punches,kicks,knees and more

>Spinning kicks,head kicks,backfists,boxing combos,short knee combos and more

Gta 5:

>Very little variety in the counters(and they are mostly shit)

>Annoying knee kick that keeps spamming

>Most moves and combos look like shit

>Cant really block anymore

>Characters mostly punch and slap fight

43ad7f No.15119431

#moves

autospell


02df7b No.15119447

They have no incentive to fix it because most of the faggots who obsess over GTA couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. The less the audience knows about something, the less they care about its accuracy. As soon as you achieve proficiency in something, its misrepresentation in fiction starts driving you up the wall.

>characters in desert at "night" (clearly after noon with a blue filter)

>revolver pointed at the back of someone's head

>trite and "witty" one-liner

>GUNSHOT, FADE TO BLACK

>brass clinking on concrete

This kind of shit kills me inside. The game has declined sharply since San Andreas, which underlines the decline in society in general. Though perhaps now, you might call it a soyciety, given how seemingly everything has devolved.


757015 No.15119472

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>>15119423

You might want to add that in Ballad of Gay Tony they added Cage Fighting, but here's the thing anon, there's little to no incentive adding hand-to-hand combat and melee weapons when most of the gameplay, in extension the online multiplayer milking is fixed on guns and vehicles.


43ad7f No.15119483

>>15119472

Yeah i remember that.The cage fighting was my favourite thing to do in the ballad of gay tony

cheers

>>15119447

i agree


43ad7f No.15119493

>>15119483

i also forgot Chinatown wars.

Game had pretty hand to hand combat.Powerful Kicks,fast punching,nice combos.


757015 No.15119499

>>15119483

So if they ever try back and make fisticuffs more useful in future games, then they need to make it essential in the game like what Yakuza and Sleeping Dogs did, but that would be trivializing the gunplay, so all I can see them possibly do in the future is to add something like Cage Fighting with MMA.


43ad7f No.15119520

>>15119499

Yeah,i always figured if they did a really good amazing meele system it would be through a DLC following the story of a mma figther(or problably former mma figther) to justify it.

Still the hand to hand in GTA was all over the place,they go from giving you plenty of styles to fight with in San andreas(karate,boxing,dirty fighting,straight up brawling) to a complex counter system in Gta4 just to fuck it all up in GTA 5 and remove tons of the hand to hand combat aspects(i dont think you can even block and you have like two counters,pluts its all random)


b120d2 No.15119549

Is CJ learning jew-jitsu in OP pic?


614906 No.15119552

>>15119423

They can't really fix the melee combat because it all depends on the protagonist, of course victor and niko's games would have great melee, they're soldiers after all.


757015 No.15119561

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8fc165 No.15119597

File: 3a690c8c0b20b91⋯.gif (2.22 MB, 392x409, 392:409, 3a690c8c0b20b91a6688081850….gif)

>>15119423

>>Learn boxing,karate,dirty fighting

You could learn different styles?


1b6bdc No.15119634

>>15119472

Yet Sleeping Dogs had excellent melee combat, on top of all the other shit it did better than GTA.


a1cba0 No.15119637

>>15119634

I should give that another playthrough


43ad7f No.15119728

>>15119549

He's learning karate.

Basically you get:

>Boxing in first city,which gives you a big ass punching combo(aldo you obviously can make tons of other combos like 1-2 1-2 e.t.c) and ground and pound

>Second city (op pic) gives you one roundhouse kick,one side kick,one spinning kick,one jumping kick(can make other shorter combos if mixing punches in)

>Third city,kick to the balls+clinch and knees+ elbow plus a knockout punch and good stomps

>Brawling is mostly Haymakers,but you get a straight punch front kick combo that will be permanently replaced once you learn a style


43ad7f No.15119732

>>15119634

Hand to hand combat in that game was 10/10,they even included a clinch system with plenty of throws+ tons of environmental kills


43ad7f No.15119745

>>15119552

But CJ was an untrained street thug and the way they solved this was by adding dojos and gyms so the character could improve in a realistic way


43ad7f No.15119753

>>15119597

Yes.Just visit the gyms and go talk to the trainer's,then you will have to fight them and once you do(you have to win) they will teach you their fighting style.


5fa5f3 No.15119769

>>15119634

Because it was hard to get hold of guns in that game, so naturally you had to focus on hand-to-hand combat and melee weapons.


43ad7f No.15119778

>>15119561

My sides


263087 No.15119811

>>15119472

>give everyone 9999 rounds of ammo for nearly all guns

Pretty much no need for melee thanks to the absurd ammo pools for the player. They should have kept the pool far lower to promote accuracy and conservative means of fighting, such a MELEE.


43ad7f No.15119853

Street fighting is something I love to do in GTA.

If anybody is having problems with the hand to hand combat in liberty city stories:

>Double punch combo press o

>In order for you to continue and not go for the broken body hook you must click o almost exactly when you finish the punches(like 0.5 seconds later,than:

>Keep that timing up(pressing o when you finish a strike)

>Front kick to - head kick to headbut(headbut if the opponent still has health left which he rarely does)


43ad7f No.15119974

Bump tbh


614906 No.15119995

>>15119811

>limiting ammo drops in the one GTA game that gives you a fucking AA12 with explosive rounds and a famas/p90 hybrid

No thanks.

>>15119634

Hell yeah, i still go back to that game and do the random fighting clubs all around the city, i love how there's a few costumes that give you a whole new moveset, like muay thai, drunk style and boxing, most people shit on the combat for being a batman arkham/asscreed rip off but unlike those games sleeping dogs has combos and grapples, it's like all these idiots do is mash square and triangle


970382 No.15120013

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>>15119423

>How long until they fix the driving?

>How long until they fix the godawful clunky gunplay?

>How long until they fix the horrible police AI?

>How long until they fix police aimbot?

>How long until they fix the HORRID traffic AI, which is actually worse than IV?

>How long until they fix the awful cliche story with extremely unlikable protagonists and extremely uninteresting antagonists?

>How long until they fix online being P2P?

>How long until they fix cheating?

>How long until they fix online being global, thus forcing Americans to play with subhuman chinks and BRs thus making desync and cheating 1000x worse?

>How long until they remove jewcards?

By the way, IV had objectively the best unarmed combat, the A.I. could actually beat the shit out of you alone if you didn't pay attention. V is a complete downgrade as it is in most areas. SA had dogshit, but all combat in SA was dogshit as well and 3D GTA was still new at the time and SA did improve upon its predecessors in regards to combat so it's somewhat excusable.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=-qUJc20yu28


43ad7f No.15120129

>>15120013

GTA 5 is shit.

Yeah in GTA 4 fighting took skill,it was also very realistic,you could beat up maybe 2/3 people at the same time in the best possibility,more than that and you were done.


257e34 No.15120370

>>15119634

Sleeping Dog's melee combat was shit. It was throw some attacks then counter the enemy when they glow

BRIGHT RED

There was never anything more to it. Enemies only attacked one at a time, so you didn't worry about positioning or spacing.

The better GTA like for melee combat is Saints Row 2. Your sprint is actually reasonably fast and disrupts aim enough that it's actually frequently viable to rush an enemy in a zig-zag instead of shooting them, especially because enemies won't fire when their allies are right next to you. This is especially true during missions when you're indoors and had lots of obstacles to work with.


43ad7f No.15123495

Gta SA/4=Best


000000 No.15123508

>>15119423

As long as retards keep paying for it, it does not need to change.


8c64f4 No.15123524

>>15120129

>Yeah in GTA 4 fighting took skill,it was also very realistic

So this is how someone writes who is retarded beyond down syndrome.


8c64f4 No.15123528

>>15120370

sr2 combat was utter shit, sr3 fixed the shooting.


43ad7f No.15123748

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>>15123524

>how someone writes who is retarded beyond down syndrome.


d5d930 No.15123817

>>15120370

Saints Row 2 was worse in depth than GTA and Sleeping Dogs. It had different animations for different fighting styles, but it had the same combo strings.


f397d2 No.15123847

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2a16c1 No.15123862

I hated how in V everyone was just downed after one or two hits. There were more melee weapons than ever, but they were all so pointless.

Actually, all the weapon variety was pointless. Everyone has little health and all guns feel the same with no punch. Truly ironic when they give us more guns than any other GTA.

Another shitty thing that applied only to the last gen version of GTA V was how when they'd release a new DLC, you'd get all of its weapons on your character automatically in SP, even in a new just started game. And faggots out there were defending it with "just don't use them man!" (it's honestly comparable to removing recoil from CS or some other FPS game and being told if you want recoil, just shake your mouse up and down while firing it)


43ad7f No.15123930

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>>15123862

>I hated how in V everyone was just downed after one or two hits. There were more melee weapons than ever, but they were all so pointless.

This plus they couldnt help to include stupid childish shit like bitch slapping people e.t.c.

>Knock somebody out with a tap hammer fist to the shoulder

>Actually, all the weapon variety was pointless. Everyone has little health and all guns feel the same with no punch

All the blades in that game felt like nothing,they had a horrible bland feeling to them.

>Shitty Spam Kick

>Same random crappy punching combos you have no control of

>Side elbow

>Two counters that look like shit

>No parrying,no Blocking,no leg techniques besides the spam kick


43ad7f No.15125355

D


ea41ed No.15125390

>GTA hand to hand

>In a series with a bajillion guns, cars and badass melee weapons

Like, I get that melee combat can be visceral and satisfying but the way GTA is structured there's no point. As long as wailing on people with a baseball bat feelsgoodyou don't need no fisting.


43ad7f No.15125487

>>15125390

>you don't need no fisting.

theres no such thing has too much fisting


257e34 No.15125873

>>15123817

There was slight differences (The ronin style has an arch to it so it's better against multiple foes), but my point was that the actual melee combat was better due to basic game mechanics, not that each style was different.


8d8096 No.15126887

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43ad7f No.15127745

>>15126887

Fucking kek


ede39d No.15127952

File: 367b3c44998d1ce⋯.jpg (92.19 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, big smoke gta sa.jpg)

>not listing them in release order.


32737d No.15142267

>>15127952

Order of quality is better.


1c14f4 No.15143007

There might be good tomahawks and knives in RDR2 unless they half ass it. I want to see them go full Glanton gang


5cab58 No.15143090

They should rip the fighting system right out of The Warriors and slap it onto GTA.


5cab58 No.15143101

>>15120013

Most pressingly, how long until they stop making you spam "X" to sprint?

I didnt play V but I assume its still a thing


61f875 No.15143118

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>>15119423

>>15119634

Sadly not every game can be Yakuza.


8c64f4 No.15143671

>>15143118

looks incredibly clunky and weightless. all this dumb glowing shit, plus the generic being-hit-animation instead of properly reacting to different hits - the animations are really crap.


c80ad2 No.15145968

>>15143525

no


a2537b No.15154254

>>15146849

It's going to be the exact same game with a western skin and current year politics.




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