6f4322 No.15099544
>25 year old piece of hardware
>has parts which might fail after 20 years of use
>if they do fail can be replaced with a screw driver and the system will work like new
>doesn't even have fucking passive cooling
>cost $60
>high end motherboard and design standards manufactured by the largest Israeli company in the world
>flashy logos all over the board, intended for you ogle and appreciate all the theoreticals and possibilities
>cheap chinese piece of shit plastic tabs prone to just breaking because nobody makes normal sized expansion boards of any kind
>graphics card alone accounts for 75% of the weight of your case
>rips itself out of its cheaply soldered lead free so it's good™ joints and claims the rest of your system with it
>costs $800-1600
what's your experience with hardware failures?
659d2e No.15099563
Just a few worn out HDDs over the years
a3c141 No.15099582
>>15099544
I think a GPU fried on me once, never had any problem with either. Those disc based consoles make me fucking nervous as hell. I have only kept my snes jr with an everdrive and a slim ps2 with just FF8 and DQ7. Was thinking about getting some old ps1 and ps2 games back, but I might look into some modding and just run stuff of a harddrive.
6f4322 No.15099587
>>15099582
Get an scph-5500 to 7000 series PS1, install unirom on a gameshark, enjoy playing back burned PS1 games. PS2 is just use OPL, internal hard drive with the network adapter on a fat and you're good to go.
266294 No.15099603
My model 1 Genesis stopped playing sound out of the back a month ago. Gonna mod it to use the headphone stereo sound.
a3c141 No.15099606
>>15099587
Yeah, I can get a Ps3 fat for pretty cheap, might look into that instead. No real rush yet all I played when younger is jrpgs and some 3d platformers.
a3c141 No.15099608
>>15099603
So is the model 1 that much better then the model 2? I remember hearing this somewhere.
>>15099607
YOU ARE NOW
6f4322 No.15099623
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>>15099606
Those can be pretty expensive and are prone to failure. Repair involves reballing which is an expensive service let alone task you can do yourself. I'd suggest a PS2, PS1, and slim PS3.
>>15099608
model 1's have better sound because they use a real ym2612 and not a ym3843 Getting stereo sound from a model 1 isn't hard or anything, just requires a second cable for stereo sound.
a3c141 No.15099627
>>15099623
What about the Japanese model?
6f4322 No.15099630
>>15099627
Japanese model what?
a3c141 No.15099634
>>15099630
I also read the Japanese models of Genesis were better, probably all hog wash.
Do any of them have composite/S Video connectors?
266294 No.15099647
>>15099608
There's multiple differences between models and even within models there's motherboard changes which have varying differences.
>>http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?7796-GUIDE-Telling-apart-good-Genesis-1s-and-Genesis-2s-from-bad-ones
>>http://archive.li/PBGhT
This page has information on the matter and information to help you discern between them.
458f7d No.15099649
>>15099544
thankfully I got my PC for pretty cheap from a friend, haven't had any troubles with it after 4 years.
A couple of weeks ago my PS3 HDD finally died somehow and I lost a lot of saves. Got another one from a chink site for $16 and it works pretty good.
6f4322 No.15099658
>>15099634
They all do composite, but it's pretty bad quality composite. The only official s-video "mega drive" is the JVC wondermega, but they can all be modified to output S-video very easily.
As far as differences in Japanese Mega Drives there's not much to concern yourself with. Generally you want a release window Genesis/MD which can be identified by the "EXT" port on the back side as well as the "high definition graphics" text emblazened on the top side. Pic related is the model 1 launch window systems.
Later model 1's got rid of the port but still have the ym2612 sound chip, but even later model 1's without the high definition graphics text are just model 2 systems in terms of hardware. The actual number of revisions the Genesis/MD saw is insane and Sega routinely experimented during manufacturing like adding heatsinks to their boards, adding mod chips of their own, modding customers genesis' to better support certain TVs, all kinds of weird shit that can be considered official.
>>15099649
I'm looking at prices and I'm considering just getting a refurbished Dell with an i5 3470, seeing if my GPU still works in it, using my PSU and calling it a day. They sell for $220 and that's a great deal to me.
a3c141 No.15099667
>>15099658
Awesome, been looking around for a model 1 genesis. I will check out the mod svideo output.
266294 No.15099668
>>15099658
Have you ever used that EXT port?
458f7d No.15099671
>>15099658
That's a pretty good deal, i5's are surprisingly powerful with modern games so you shouldn't have a problem
a3c141 No.15099678
>>15099671
>>15099658
Get an i3 overclocked, i5 and i7 all bottleneck GPU's now.
6f4322 No.15099680
>>15099668
I think it was only ever used by the Japanese Mega Modem. It's just a good signifier.
>>15099671
Yeah. I'll swap in whatever hardware of mine I can, maybe get a new GPU if this one is truly the issue. It's just an annoying setback. Still an upgrade from my fx6300 fortunately.
6f4322 No.15099695
>>15099678
I'm not using a high end GPU, and I don't really play new PC games that would be a problem.
a3c141 No.15099702
>>15099695
Ditto.
I have been playing through Blood again.
Why the fuck are 6 button Sega Genesis controllers so fucking expensive?
7d8574 No.15099712
>>15099544
>>if they do fail can be replaced with a screw driver and the system will work like new
Good luck replacing parts that aren't available anymore, genius. Or changing soldered parts.
0a66d7 No.15099717
>>15099702
Jews trying to scalpel ancient sealed 'new' plastic controllers for money.
6f4322 No.15099731
>>15099712
>oh no nobody is making FUCKING CD LASERS ANY MORE
oh wait yes they are you fucking retard and even if they stopped today there would be hundreds billions available.
>soldering
>hard
wew illiterate
>>15099702
no clue why they're expensive. I would set my cap to $15 for the things.
266294 No.15099743
>>15099680
You can hook two Geneses up to each other and play the same game of Zero Tolerance on two TVs with two players. I've never read of anyone doing it which leads me to wonder if there's other games that you can play like this
a3c141 No.15099744
>>15099717
>>15099731
Resellers and "RETRO" gaming is getting annoying for someone who actually wants to play the games. Ill keep my eye open for a genesis m1 and a 6 button original controller.
6f4322 No.15099756
>>15099744
go to thrift stores and it is the season for yard sales. Shouldn't be hard to find for a decent price.
>>15099743
I'd do it for full screen bonanza bros
b62a91 No.15099775
You know everyone says that those parts could fail after 20 years and SHOULD fail after like 30, but like, almost all of me old electronics still work
Hell my cpu is only supposed to have a lifespan of like 4 and it's lasted 10 at this point.
0a66d7 No.15099792
>>15099775
Shitty gaming taiwan motherboards can kill cpus, I've seen it happen before.
6f4322 No.15099798
>>15099775
I checked out one of these a few weeks ago and it worked fucking perfectly, first try, no fussing around, RF only right into a dinky CRT and it booted it up right away with no issues. There's so many problems with modern electronics and compromises like getting rid of lead solder is one of the biggest reasons for the RROD and the YLOD in the 7th generation.
266294 No.15099813
>>15099743
I'm retarded, the cable for this hooks together the machines via the 2nd controller port, not the EXT.
edbf81 No.15099835
>>15099544
It's an industry wide scheme to build a product with the intention to fail after a pre-planned time to keep the revenue going. That's also why most devices can't be opened without special equipment or without destroying the product. And if you want to go deeper to the evil side of this rabbit hole you look at Apple and their downgrading updates.
b62a91 No.15099864
>>15099835
Well with apple it's probably more to do with microsoft finally getting not shit production software.
They kinda plateaued after the iPod Touch 4 and never really had any where to go and went samsungish
8ad202 No.15100697
>>15099544
I once had a GTX 970 short itself to death because of a shit PCIe x16 slot on a mid-tier motherboard. I promptly replaced the motherboard and used the secondhand 970 I had bought to SLI my rig.
For console hardware failure, the laser in the disc reader of the family Gamecube died a few years ago. My brother still has it for sentimental reasons. Hopefully he can fix it.
cae347 No.15101580
>dad had a PS1 for many years, between the whole family we played the absolute shit out of it
>eventually the lid latch breaks so we have to weight it down with something to keep it closed
>a good while after that the scanner starts fucking up and doesnt move right
>challengeaccepted.jpg
>since then we've simply done a balancing act of finding the perfect weight of things to place on the lid where it'll read the disk
Damn do I love older systems, break like fuck and still work
Meanwhile these new systems have damn software and soldering issues out the ass, it's sad
7391bf No.15101597
>>15101580
blame the corporate globohomo agenda which doesn't want electronics manufacturers to use solder with lead in it.
cae347 No.15101608
>>15101597
What the fuck do I care about the solder having lead
If the groundwater is full of lead from fracking and all the local construction, and the city water is full of estrogen and (surprise) lead, what's a little lead in a machine that I shouldn't be licking anyway
Goddamn I hate that shit
c1b2ab No.15101712
Planned obsolescence is a very real thing
d3e716 No.15101748
>>15099623
You have to look for a SPECIFIC model 1 to get that chip, which is even more of a pain. The one nice thing is the model 1 Genesis is easy to restore/recap because it used through hole soldering instead of surface mount bullshit.
3f2c02 No.15102353
>>15099544
A couple hard drives here and there, a the power supply in my first computer, the video card in my second computer, and the optical drive in every computer I've ever owned or my parents owned when I was a kid.
5e52e8 No.15102367
>>15099702
>>15099717
The small 6button sega pads aren't that great. You can get SG Propads for 15-25~ if you look around.
>6 buttons
>Turbo/Slow
>Extra L and R buttons which can be mapped as any face button or a combination of buttons (e.g. map L to B+C to get a one-button backpunch in Streets of Rage 2)
>Fairly long cable
(Also, SG PP 2 and PP 6 are the same thing, it's just a different number on the casing).
78a36d No.15102375
>>15101597
Lead makes you into homo, retard. Why did you think the Roman empire fell? They fucked so many boys that it literally collapsed.
501ed8 No.15102478
>>15099702
I've started using this Hori pad for Genesis and Saturn emulation. I like it so far.
94720e No.15102556
>>15102375
I think you mean that it prolapsed.
95ae5b No.15102758
>>15099623
>I'd suggest a platform that still uses disc drives
705b72 No.15102773
>>15102375
>knowing so little about roman history
Read a book pleb.
bc5f20 No.15102785
>>15099544
Mainly stupid laser shit with the PS2. There was the one time I had to fix a tray problem with a 360 and practically performed a blood ritual getting the thing open.
b57af6 No.15102887
>>15099678
Overclockable i3s are waste of money, plain and simple.
b57af6 No.15102895
>>15099775
>Hell my cpu is only supposed to have a lifespan of like 4 and it's lasted 10 at this point.
CPUs last basically forever unless you overclock them heavily or do something stupid. It's the motherboards and other components that tend to start failing after a few years.
6416a4 No.15102908
>>15099544
>3.2GB Fujitsu HDD failing with no warning before CD burners were less than $400.
>$600 Sony Mavica camera fucking failing after being used for a month, then put away with the battery removed for the winter. Sony refused to honor the warranty.
>PS2 DVD laser diode failing when the system was still around $300.
>Capacitor plague killing an Asus (((Pentium))) 4 motherboard.
L
$600 Sony Mavica camera fucking failing after being used for a month, then put away with the battery removed for the winter.
>Gamecube laser diode failing.
Never had shit physically break on me, that I recall, besides the aluminum bolt holding an arm rest on a chair I got for $10 that was salvaged from a motel.
What do I have that SHOULD have died, but still works fine?
>floppy disk drives from the early and mid 1980s
>8 track tapes and decks from the seventies
>cassette tapes and decks from everywhen
>Coleco Telstar pong console
>Atari VCS (2600 before it was called the 2600, not the vaporware pile of money laundering) and Sears Video Arcade (licensed 2600 clone)
>486 computer made in 1989
>486 computer made in 1991
>Pentium systems made shortly afterward
>Commodore 64 (I know the power supplies are time bombs that kill the computers, so I won't use the systems or the drives until I get newly-designed replacement power supplies)
>Atari XE GS with keyboard
>Radio Shack branded Tandy Color Computer 2
Durable goods are not profitable goods.
ef1033 No.15102951
>install Fallout 3
>do the beginning of the game, get out of the vault
>try to talk to some shady guy in the first town
>game crashes, the computer forcefully restarts and I get weird lines all over my screen
>whatthefuck.jpeg
>do something else
>game works more or less
>go to that guy again after a while
>same thing happens
>lines on the screen won't go away any more
>take it for servicing
>graphics card was fried
Good thing it was the only component that got killed.
It was an old Nvidia 8800GTS and I was going to replace it at some point anyway.
I later bought a Radeon 5870HD that I use to this day.
I am never going to try playing a Fallout game again in my life.
I also kept the dead graphics card and hanged it in my room to have as a memento.
3fe4fa No.15102956
Sound card keeps frying. No idea what is causing it.
6416a4 No.15102978
>>15102951
Reminds me, and I had forgotten, that my shitty (((NvidiAIDS))) card had shit the bed with minimal use, playing years' old 3D games. It was drawing random garbage everywhere, then gave up all at once. Switch to a Radeon card, and all was well.
Then the Samsung monitor I was given as a gift blew out and was displaying nothing but a dim red. Whatever.
fa6d0b No.15102981
Have a Dreamcast where the laser has gone, but keeping it to swap out the motor for a SD reader one day. No point throwing shit away when it can be utilized somehow.
290e36 No.15102996
>>15102956
Might be your mobo.
I don't know about sound cards or if they need enough to warrant a PSU connection, which may be at fault.
84f17f No.15103041
>>15099544
>by the largest Israeli company in the world
01f8e8 No.15103050
>>15102996
I had a gigabyte motherboard fry a cpu in another computer before.
d9edbc No.15103084
>>15103050
How did you pull that off? Did you hack it with stuxnet? :^)
1bfb76 No.15103098
>>15099544
>>high end motherboard and design standards manufactured by the largest Israeli company in the world
>>flashy logos all over the board, intended for you ogle and appreciate all the theoreticals and possibilities
>>cheap chinese piece of shit plastic tabs prone to just breaking because nobody makes normal sized expansion boards of any kind
>>graphics card alone accounts for 75% of the weight of your case
>>rips itself out of its cheaply soldered lead free so it's good™ joints and claims the rest of your system with it
>>costs $800-1600
All of those statement reek of absolute retardation, I seriously doubt you're even capable of fixing anything at all if you're seriously saying any of that.
>what's your experience with hardware failures?
Had a PS2 drive fail while still under warranty, same replaced part started failing again recently and I kinda sorta fixed it, but I basically don't use the drive because it's a dud that can't into burnt disc.
Had a GPU pop a capacitor once, didn't actually fail immediately even without replacing the cap kept using it for a few month because laziness and replaced it once it died.
Had a GPU that was DoA once
Not failure but cleaned and TSOPed a couple Xbox, it's more of a pain in the ass than it's really worth honestly, I'll stick to regular softmod next time although next time I'm just gonna buy a 1.4Ghz modded XBOX off of that one guy who still make them so I won't even need to do shit since they come hardmodded
>>15102956
>Sound card keeps frying. No idea what is causing it.
I'd go with bad PSU, might be something, causing a short inside the PCI/PCIe port too, if your PSU is noname / Advance / Heden / random chinkshit don't even bother checking anything, trash that shit and get a seasonic.
Might also be heat, but you'd have to have a serious issue with ventilation to begin with.
33b2ea No.15103106
>>15103084
Oh no, it was just a piece of shit motherboard made in China.
d3e716 No.15103115
>>15103050
Gigabyte makes pure trash, I've never seen a mobo from them that didn't have a pile of issues.
0b7637 No.15103308
>>15102951
too bad AMD only brought vulkan to GCN 1.0 cards and beyond (so 7xxx series)
7391bf No.15103321
>>15103098
>All of those statement reek of absolute retardation
statements*
>>15103115
They used to be good when the p35 was hot shit
98208e No.15103464
>>15102908
>capacitor plague
I'm fortunate to be young enough to just dodge that dark age. When I started building computers, the capacitor plague just got through passing, and lent more credence to the golden rule of not buying cheap shit. My very first computer is still functioning just fine as a friend's Windows 98 machine.
To keep my fedora glowing though, I bought a shit ton of media things from the 80s and 90s, and they all still work great, and don't make any wonky noises. Actually now that I think about it; one of the cassette decks on my dad's home stereo slowed to a stop on a rewind a few months ago. Luckily enough it's a dual-deck, but I'm still going to pull the shell on that when I get a workspace with better lighting to see what's going on.
>>15103115
Mine's gud. I'm overclocking my 8700k to 5GHz with a slight voltage boost, no black VRMs yet… I also OC'd my RAM with a voltage boost, no blue smoke yet either. Still the best for Hackintoshing, if you want to be the ultimate Jew.
4e6cb4 No.15103499
>>15099798
>getting rid of lead solder is one of the biggest reasons for the RROD
The problem that caused the RROD was third-world-tier thermal paste drying out and causing the processor to overheat, which then melted its solder (material irrelevant, they all have low melting points) and the shitty fucking clamp holding the whole mess to the motherboard pulling the CPU away from its socket as the connections melted. I know because I repaired a dozen of the goddamn things back in highschool.
Parts cost for one RROD repair: four 5-cent nuts and bolts, one nerd-candy-sized drop of Arctic Silver. Microsoft couldn't be fucking bothered to use these items, and ABSOLUTELY HAD to save a few pennies per console by using the worst thermal paste the world has ever fucking seen, and a thin piece of stamped aluminum instead of bolts.
e2734d No.15103557
>>15103499
Using shit parts wasn't to save money but to make it by forcing people to get repairs or buy new ones. Niggers fell for it hook line and sinker.
4e6cb4 No.15103560
>>15103557
They also fell for paying me $50 a pop to fix them after the towel trick didn't work.
7391bf No.15103604
>>15103499
>replacing thermal paste on components needing to be reballed
just put raspberry jelly in your engine next time you need an oil change
96e09e No.15103633
>>15099544
spilt soda pop all over my computer
now it seems to work at 70% performance in games
and the loading is slow as fuck and unresponsive
I don't get what's wrong, if it broke shouldn't it stop working completely?
or maybe it's just windows lol
4e6cb4 No.15103634
>>15103604
Nice reading comprehension retard.
1bfb76 No.15103637
>>15103604
>the reballing meme
95% of the time it's a faulty chip you can reanimate with a heatgun that will fail again in a couple month, reballing wouldn't do shit and since heating the chip is part of the reballing process it achieves the same thing as just using a heatgun on it for a couple minutes.
4e6cb4 No.15103654
>>15103604
>>15103637
After replacing the thermal paste and clamp, the bolts hold the CPU down more evenly than the clamp did. You then purposefully overheat the xbox again so that the solder melts and the pins re-solder themselves in the socket. Then after putting the fans and shit back in, it works. Forever. I still have one that I've put thousands of hours on since repairing it, which hasn't had an issue since.
6bff6f No.15103980
>>15099658
Sega used off the shelf parts in both designing and manufacturing the Genesis, hence the wide variety of video/audio quality of different revisions.
The way to get the best video out of an unmodded Genesis (aside from SCART) is to use a 32X, it has an excellent composite video encoder, gets rid of the "rainbow bands" and actually looks very close to s-video.
6bff6f No.15103998
>>15102367
pic related is the best Genesis controller I've ever used. It has rapid fire switches for all six buttons and despite being from a no-name third party feels and plays higher quality than the official Sega controllers
0a66d7 No.15104019
>>15102367
I used one of those as a kid.
>>15102375
Lead isn't going to leak out into electronics and kill you brainlet, it's solder. People were saying the exact same shit about copper and copper was used to store fucking water back then.
6416a4 No.15104112
>>15103464
>golden rule of not buying cheap shit.
The capacitor plague came from behind the scenes industrial espionage, not the usual Chinese fuckery and fakery, shockingly enough. Didn't matter what you bought in most cases.
>>15103499
I should see about getting the shit to fix my 360 before it RRODs. In the meantime, I've just been keeping it un-powered to be safe.
84a297 No.15104207
My PSU got fucked by the landlord turning the power off and on repeatedly (apparently testing something) which in turn ruined my motherboard and cpu. Ended up rebuilding entirely. And then that computer got fucked by my cat prying open a loose panel and sleeping inside of it
1bfb76 No.15104230
>>15104207
And that's why you buy an UPS
84a297 No.15104250
>>15104230
That's why I bought two of them. It paid off, the electricity here is fucking terrible. We have brownouts at least once a week where the lights fully go half-dim and they kick on. Guess this is what I get for living in a third world shithole like California
1bfb76 No.15104277
>>15104250
>Guess this is what I get for living in a third world shithole
Yeah the USA have a surprisingly terrible fucking power delivery grid, on top of 110v being worse for electronic devices in general apparently.
ddc2f9 No.15104384
>>15099544
I've had 7 xbox 360s, 4 of them have died on me while 2 didn't even turn on.
>2013
>look for a refurbished 360 on gamestop to play ace combat 6, halo reach and ninety nine nights
>can only order them from their website
>$35 so who gives a fuck
>they mail me a super old 360 without the hdmi port that is already yellowing, bootleg composite cables, no HDD, a power supply that looks like it'll explode if you look at it too hard and a fucking madcatz controller
>boots succesfuly 5 times and then it takes roughly 10 minutes to load the profile select screen
>a week later it RRODs
>throw it in the trash where it belongs
>june 2014
>decide to buy another one, find the halo 3 edition in a gamestop, buy it because it looks cool
>it even comes with the original controller, for $40 it was alright
>big fucking mistake, these things died in 6 months tops because it used a shitty gpu and tiny fan
>sometimes have to tap the dvd tray so it opens
>surprisingly lasts 4 months before it dies, keep the shell, HDD casing and controller in order to transplant it to another xbox
>december 2014
>look for another 360 on gamestop
>it's an elite model with hdmi port, comes with original component cables, 120GB HDD and power supply but no controller, take it because i can mod those cables into high quality OG xbox component cables which cost like $50-70 and i can rip some files from that HDD to put them into a bigger one and still be able to emulate OG xbox games on it
>$30 for everything
>manage to get halfway through ace combat 6 before it dies on me a month later
>january 2016
>get one from craigslist for $60, it's an slim S model with kinect, 500GB HDD, 2 controllers and 5 shitty games
>lasts me until october, gpu dies while playing gaylo 3
>november 2017
>find out gamestop is giving away 360s for free because they don't want them anymore
>have one mailed to my house and another mailed to sister's
>literally only the console, no cables, HDD or controller, one has hdmi port while the other doesn't
>still have the power supply and cables from the elite
>one RRODs right away, the other sends a display error code
>hook it via vga
>RRODs
I ended up buying a refurbished E 360 from walmart in december 2017 and it still works, $90 though it came with 6 months of live and they bundled some energizer charging stand and a wired controller, this thing actually keeps the heat out of the system and you can't even hear it if you install games to the HDD.
abc855 No.15104490
>>15104384
Damn, that sounds like quite the tragic adventure.
>>15099544
>my ambition since the end of junior high was to build a high end pc
>after 10 months of savings, I finally get my parts
>it works like a charm
>7 months later, the cooler died for no fucking reason
It was a pretty strong liquid cooler too, I don't know if it was me falling for a hardware meme, a brand meme or if liquid cooling is just a meme in itself, so in a way I might have brought this on myself.
bcd9df No.15104521
>>15102478
I was gonna ask, is there some hori pad for this sort of thing, thanks
ddc2f9 No.15104659
>>15104490
At least i managed to sell the halo 3 xbox and controller for $60, the 120 HDD for $30 and the kinect shit and two controllers for $40, i did not scam anyone though, i clearly stated the halo 3 xbox didn't work but they still wanted it because the controller was in perfect condition and they wanted the case as well, wired controllers also go for $20-40 new and the charging stand for $30 so $90 for that and the xbox was a steal, now i can finally play that anime ace combat game set in space that came out early in the 360's life.
7d8574 No.15104668
>>15104384
Legendärer Pechvogel.
98208e No.15107153
>>15104384
I'm pretty sure the only way Gamestop can file away the surge of 360s they still have is to just call it shrink and put them outside.
8ad314 No.15107537
>>15099667
Just use RGB, any Genesis can run RGB natively.
4741c8 No.15108564
>>15104384
Bought my PS2 back in 2007 secondhand from Gamestop and it still works fine.
a51912 No.15108585
>>15104384
tossed my old 360 after I had it scratch a disk. The newer models don't have as much of a problem with that and are better-cooled as well. That said, I feel as though I get more out of my PS3 since I play weeb games. Shame the hacking scene for the ps3 has stagnated and they aren't interested in developing hacks for any of the slim models.
153978 No.15108601
Countless dead high end video cards dead after the 90 day mark from ati, leadtek, and 3samsung. Intel video sucks but never died on me… Lots of dead memory from ocz and samsung, kingston never failed me.. Dead hdds from seagate, western digital, maxtor, samsung, and ibm.
My nes, tg16, master system, atari 2600, and many others all still work.
My sega cd and xbox 360 white are my only consoles to ever die on me.
153978 No.15108605
>>15108564
My launch ps2 still somehow works.
a51912 No.15108623
>>15108585
I'm utterly frustrated that the PS3 scene seems completely content with the hacking and CFW installation being completely based around downgrading to 3.56. The fat models have hardware problems and will die on you if you. If you do get a fat ps3, since it unfortunately still is the best option for installing CFW, I recommend replacing the thermal paste on the CPU and installing some kind of third-party cooling equipment or you risk YLOD with ordinary everyday use.
5e52e8 No.15108637
>>15108585
>>15108623
Huh? Any PS3 that can run 3.55 can now be easily downgraded and CFW'd in a short time. This includes most Slim models (not Superslims). Phat is not the best option for CFW, (unless you want a CECHA/CECHB PS2 compatible console setup).
Sadly the issue with CECH30 slims and Superslims is that the exploit that allows CFW is simply no more, it's patched forever in these hardware revisions so all you can do is run lesser exploits which aren't worth it, honestly. Just search for a CECH21 or 25 (datecode 0x) slim and hack away. That's how I played Tales of Vesperia with the translation patch and the other titles with undubs.
Quick reference:
>Phat
All hackable but hardware is shit. Changing paste is a must
>Slims CECH20xx and CECH21xx
All hackable, better builds
>Slims CECH25xx datecodes 0x (check bottom of console)
All hackable, even better builds (I got one of these, and changed paste a long time ago - also clean regularly)
>Slims CECH25xx datecodes 1x and CECH30xx
No CFW. Only softhacks
>Superslims
No CFW. Only softhacks
>>15108601
>Seagate and Maxtor
not surprised at all. I have a dozen dead disks and they're all Seagates. (not my disks though, they're from various people). I've seen Maxtors fail often as well.
God, I hate Seagate - I saw a client's 2TB external USB drive die a few hours out of the box. Then if you need to do board swaps you ALSO need to swap the EEPROM chips on the goddamn things. What a pain.
I only have ONE samsung 160TB disk that I don't even know what's wrong with it - it worked fine but now connecting it ensures that the system does not boot. Even if I put it in a 3.5 USB case, said case's power button is rendered useless if said disk is on it. Disk might have a short or something…
So far I stick to Toshiba. I have 10+ year Toshiba drives that still work perfectly fine.
153978 No.15108652
>>15108637
Tbh seagate used to be a shit brand. Nowadays its just as reliable as wd or even hitachi. I think im just gonna do a raid array in a tower connected with esata.
But even raids can fail.
a51912 No.15108656
>>15108601
>>15108637
I got four WD disks, two of them are 10+ in years and none of them have failed on me; one is an external HD setup that I have dropped countless times but still works fine with no bad sectors. I had a seagate exHD that I dropped once and was completely borked.
I think I'll be getting a CECH25xx slim for hacking, my fat got YLOD but I got it fixed but I'm afraid it'll YLOD again if I try and use it to play for more than a few minutes.
153978 No.15108666
>>15108656
Hdds are weird. Reliability in specific models rather than companies. I have an old 8gb "high capacity" seagate from 1998. Still works.
a51912 No.15108671
>>15108666
the Seagate that I had fuck up was a 2tb slim little thing that was cheap, something 50$ or so. I guess you do get what you pay for.
5e52e8 No.15108696
>>15108652
RAIDs can fail, yes. But assuming you use a mirroring type it'd be very, very damn unlucky for all of it to fail at the same time so you can always rebuild. Unless you RAID0, where the 0 means the amount of data you'll get back if shit hits the fan, of course.
>>15108656
WD disks are rather rare here. But I've seen some in laptops. Hitachi and Toshiba are breddy gud so far in my setups.
Once it YLODs it's usually going to happen again. I 'revived' a phat but it only lasted some days.
>>15108666
It's all about the build of said specific models. The infamous Deathstars of that particular series had magnetic coatings that would 'shed off' and screw up everything. Some Seagate lines have shit drive heads which end up causing crashes.
But the most fun one so far was the infamous (for me) ST1000DM003. I had THREE of these disks show up in my desk in a very short time frame:
>Disk 1
Was starting to die according to SMART data. Got a second disk and cloned (this disk was actually the 2TB external I mentioned earlier, which died. Yep, the rescuer drive died before the drive to be rescued. So I got ANOTHER drive, not seagate, from the client to clone to). About 77% of the disk was used space so I ddrescue'd and it went rather well until about the 75% mark where it got slooooow. Then it died at 78%, not kidding. Since ddrescue gets data first and then leaves the free space for last I basically managed to save the whole drive. One chkdsk later and the clone works perfectly, that was a VERY lucky scenario.
>Disk 2
Showing issues but cloned successfuly, it took quite a while. Still works now but it's giving read errors at times.
>Disk 3
Somewhat dead. BIOS sometimes reads it after minutes but it quickly dies. Trying to ddrescue hardly goes over a few minutes and then it's a waiting game for it to be recognized again (may be a temp issue?) I swapped boards with the one from Disk 2 since said board is fine (problem with that drive is on the platters probably). Result: The same goddamn thing. And disk 3's board in Disk 2 works perfectly, so this one also has a platter (or head) issue. At this point I just gave up on it because I'm not risking opening that up and fucking the platters even more.
So yeah, stay away from ST1000DM003. Just google that model and you'll see all the results of issues…
Aside from these cases, most drives that come to my hands are either DOA or clone with good ol' ddrescue.
153978 No.15108718
>>15108696
Ive had a 5hdd raid 4 array fail. 2 hdds in the same week, replaced at same time. Failed/corrupted while rebuilding.
Interesting anecdote. I have a theory. I think the increase in storage capacity coorelates with failure. The software to detect and avoid bad sectors and problems is under developed.
1ee6a0 No.15108735
>wake up one day and my screen wont detect any video at all
>turns out it's my GPU
>try to fix it with eraser magic and stuff
>nothing works, give up and start saving money
>let GPU be in a random part of my desk for no reason at all
>stack it among books(below them) not caring at all about it, pick it up while touching the connector many times, etc
>3 months later
>about to buy a new one
>just before buying I decide to try my old GPU one more time
>it works and goes on for more 3 years before I sell it and buy a new one
Other than that, a few SNES games failing on me randomly, headphones and mouses too. Fuck multilaser, been with a Logitech g402 for 4 and a half years now.
Oh, and my chair broke the last screw from the left side(four screws) a few hours ago and I fell to the ground along with it. Then I got a knife, cut the cloth under it and super glued the wood to the metal support.
Pic related. The totem is so the wood has a bigger surface area touching the metal support and to protect from evil spirits.
5e52e8 No.15108747
>>15108718
Well, density of data increases so you lose more data if a sector is not readable (due to foreign contaminants, for example). But the 'bad' Deskstars were about 15~75 GB or so and still failed pretty badly. Manufacturers try to innovate while obviously reducing costs, and sometimes those reductions equal a bad time.
As for the RAID that sounds pretty bad. Were those drives part of the same batch/production lot? Some recommend getting different batches because of this.
988459 No.15108817
>>15103654
Whoa that's awesome, what bolts do you use. Is there a guide to this technique?
1bfb76 No.15108846
>>15108718
>I think the increase in storage capacity coorelates with failure
The increase in platters leads to increased failure rate in HDD which is why you try to avoid drives with more than 4 (currently that means nothing more than 4TB), then you need something that reduces vibrations and has good ventilation if you wanna put many drives in the same small space.
SSD I'm less sure about but I've been told to never get anything but Crucial, Samsung or Intel because everything else has reliability issues.
I remember OCZ and the 25% failure rates
>>15108696
>most drives that come to my hands are either DOA or clone with good ol' ddrescue.
I had to get data off a HDD that was in a laptop that got ran over by what I assume is several cars since it was in the middle of a busy road.
Didn't use actual drive cloning soft just some old backup soft that copies files one by one because it allowed me to disconnect and reconnect the drive in the middle of the process without losing any progress, also had to use a SATA to USB thing and physically hold and press against the side of the drive because the top cover would touch the top of the platter/head assembly and make a less than agreeable noise, still wasn't particularly fun considering that was a 1TB drive with at-least 350GB of shit on it and since it was busted it would only copy at 2-30 MB/s at most and random access times in the seconds range at times.
Also pic related, the same drive I just managed to make sorta work again after using it as a doorstop
b62a91 No.15108851
>>15104384
You know that reminds me of an issue I got right now.
I've got FOUR fucking xbox 360s at my house, all of them insist I need to redownload Blinx 2 (You can't) to play it, and some how I can't find my OG Orange transparent Xbox.
5e52e8 No.15108892
>>15108846
The nice thing about ddrescue is that it also allows resuming (as long as you specified a logfile and keep said file handy).
Also, that is one hell of a tank drive, those 350GBs you got were readable? If so, that's amazing and I feel good since my laptop has that very exact same model installed right now, MQ01ABD100. I also got another which I stuck in the case of that dead 2TB Seagate external (point for Seagate externals, their USB drives have a separate SATA-USB3 adapter so you can pry open the case and stick a working drive in. Samsung externals on the other hand have a USB3.0 micro port directly on the logic board.)
1bfb76 No.15108951
>>15108846
Oh shit it's still working,I had to gently massage the top shell to get it unstuck quite a few times and it makes noise you wouldn't ever wanna hear coming from an HDD, but somehow this fuckingdrive still works.
>>15108892
>Also, that is one hell of a tank drive, those 350GBs you got were readable?
99% of it yeah, rest was half corrupted files
079e87 No.15108968
>>15099544
>things that only happen to retards like OP.
Cool story.
5e52e8 No.15108972
>>15108951
Goddamn. I'm glad I decided to get Toshibas after Samsung's HDD division was bought by Seagate.
I hope they don't buy Toshiba as well…
f06893 No.15108995
6416a4 No.15109117
>>15108995
That's been the fix for well over ten years, and I've heard of no one crying that their system died again after having that done to it.
1bfb76 No.15109174
>>15109117
>That's been the fix for well over ten years, and I've heard of no one crying that their system died again after having that done to it.
The part that kinda feels like bullshit is the
>You then purposefully overheat the xbox again so that the solder melts and the pins re-solder themselves in the socket.
Letting a chip go to 220°C or higher is a good way to kill it, especially something as crap as the CPU/GPU the x360 had, anything lower and lead free solder ain't gonna melt, feels like the oven/heatgun "fix".
A good way to prove whether it's actually true or not would be to heatgun it up to something like 150-170°C and see if it works again, if it does then the whole "solder melting" part is bullshit, if it doesn't then it's actually true but then a proper BGA rework with leaded solder would be wiser.
daeea0 No.15109182
Hardware I smash my feces on the lid and press start but only skyrim plays. Mexico shoots young adults heroin into their eye spckets so that yelp can review their restaurants are roach and toenail free. Want to become Randy Pitchford but my mother is sad that hitler stopped sucking off his pet nigger in the backyars.
6416a4 No.15109197
>>15109174
Well, I agree with that. Better to pre-pair your as-of-yet not-fucked 360, so no reflowing is required.
ddc2f9 No.15109241
>>15107153
They were giving them away last year during black friday, you ordered an xbox 360 from their website for $60 and they would give you a $60 discount, the only limit was one xbox per adress, it was all bullshit though, i got two from them and they didn't even work.
62e720 No.15109672
>>15099544
had a samsung 960 evo, gtx 1080 and vengence 3200 16gb of ram fail on me within a month of each other, built a 2nd pc out of what was left with a vega 56 while i wait on warranties
3cbf2b No.15119092
In 50 years time, are current and past gen consoles going to be playable or a relic of the past? This is why I'm banking on emulation, or maybe 3d printing will make strides and you can actually 3d print hardware. I wonder if 3D printing could actually save the world.
bd5708 No.15119105
>>15104384
Maybe if you would stop being such a jew you'd actually get something that works instead of expecting to get years out of a $40 console some nigger mom is selling on craigslist
Meanwhile
>bought 360 at launch
>still works to this day because I'm not a fucking retard and actually take good care of my electronics
6416a4 No.15119108
>>15119105
Taking care of equipment doesn't protect it from bad engineering. My 360 lives only because I do not. I've barely played it after the first year and a half that I owned it because my job had basically killed me. It's susceptible to fucking off if it gets too hot, and nobody is doing the heat sink modifications this late in the game. I could do it myself, but I still wouldn't play anything other than maybe TMNT the Arcade Game, or whatever few other games I have on it.
5c67d4 No.15119112
Two months ago I started getting crashes when playing demanding games. It would usually make the screen go black and give the sound you get when you detach usb stuff from your PC. Two weeks ago it started to crash the computer completely and I got those "shut down due to a voltage spike" and a few days after the first one the gfx card damn near bursted into flames. Nothing else was damaged thankfully.
I'm just wondering if I should look into replacing my power supply because I feel like it might actually be the culprit and the gfx card just the victim of it fucking up?
1bfb76 No.15119152
>>15119112
>I'm just wondering if I should look into replacing my power supply because I feel like it might actually be the culprit and the gfx card just the victim of it fucking up?
Seems likely.
5c67d4 No.15119165
>>15119152
Yeah, I feel like its not worth the risk to just slap in the new gfx card and hope it wont fry too. It'll only set me back 60-80€ since the gfx card still has warranty so I'd only have to buy a new psu.
ac31d2 No.15119215
After 4 years of use of the PC I built, pc would't turn on. Was able to RMA replace my psu, motherboard, and RAM sticks for free because I sent separate tickets to the mfg companies and proved the parts wouldn't work. Don't remember the details, took 2 weeks shipping and its still good as new 2 years later.