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>>15088236

thats because you are a chat whore

Might as well ask here. Anyone have a recording of The chat and stream of 8chanmania 33? I had to work that day and missed out on all the fun and feels.

Customizing appearance is the easiest part. The AI, stats and moves are 50x pain in the ass.

>>15088646

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hTUACwmzrbAa/Entire thing with chat is on bitchute.

>>15092347

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hTUACwmzrbAa/

>>15088646

You missed some feels, specially sly vs john doe hit me the hardest.

>>15088228

>>15094016

Get that faggot shit out of here.

>>15094090

But more importantly, is it fun? I've been eyeing a new wrestling-game for some time but i usually just enjoy the wacky storylines and the WWE-series has been shit for such a long time with that.

I can't wait for some sorta story mode or campaign DLC for the PC version. Heard it's coming in a few weeks after the PS4 version.

>>15094580

No story stuff in Fire Pro yet, likely won't be wacky and OTT like the older WWE games anyway. It will be entirely Nu-Japan so expect the wacky weeb Kenny Omega to be featured heavily. Gameplay is a lot different from say, HCTP. Its a lot more skillful. People get different fun out of the games, whether it be simulating matches, sinking their teeth into the gameplay and gitting gud or the customization and AI options, to get your wrestler just right.

The Steam workshop has a heap of wrestlers, referees and rings to get things moving. Then you have the modding community doing the work for Spike Chunsoft. Its a good game and you can do a lot with it. Fantasy booking, dream matches, goofy shit like pro wrestling in MMA.

>>15094016

>>15092349

>all the magnet links are dead

RIP.

>>15097653

>Buying Fire Pro

This is one of the few games that you can buy without any guilt whatsoever.

Buy the Yoshihiro Takayama DLC as well, since all of the money for that DLC goes to Yoshihiro Takayama himself to pay off his medical bills after being paralyzed in a freak accident during a match.

>>15094333

>>15094604

Kenny's gay shit is better than any WWE shit today.

>>15097942

Wrestling sucks now anyway so being the best of a pile of shit isn't saying much.

>>15094604

When I start season 2 I'll give a more detailed op with the rules for CAW guidelines one of many fucking improvements

But the tl;dr

170-190 point

No giant style or reborn skill unless you purposely build in a weakness.

No more nidorinas.

Ever.

>>15097653

>moves too OP for mania

Probably none, since only one move in the game cannot be re-balanced with the move editor mod as it is an issue with the animation extending the pinned state past the kickout.

In an unmodded game there are some troublesome heavy hitters. Knees-to-head on a downed opponent is high damage for low-to-no risk. MMA clinch submissions have high damage for both attacks & counters, effectively putting the match in fast-forward. Entertainment-as-primary-stat moves also do very high spirit damage and this makes the Ent submissions quite effective.

>move %s

For front grapples generally keep it about even between moves of the same tier (Sml,Med,Big), with exceptions for moves you want to be rarer (ex. submissions or surprise super kicks). Moves like irish whip & back switch can be higher since both lead to a variety of moves. If your finisher is a corner grapple or a corner-to-center you can put the % high since the opportunity to try it is much rarer than front grapples. The same applies for 'Opp. Critical' columns, since that is the appropriate point to try and finish the match.

You could also look into the logic of wrestlers you found too spammy for examples of what not to do.

>style issues

Giant/Giant is bad for tournaments due to its success mostly depending on how badly it screws over the opponent's move set. It has 100% base reversal rate for anything trying to move its mass, regardless of if that move would otherwise be fine based off damage dealt so far. Pure strikers would not notice a difference while wrestlers have a hard-to-outright-unwinnable matchup.

There are some options for toning it down with mods but Giant does not have much else unique to it so you are generally better off using some other style combo for your wrestlers.

Otherwise there are no outright OP styles but some do very poorly if you go outside their intended usage: Wrestling, Ground, Shooter, Fighter & Grappler all have mediocre-to-bad base affinity curve and bad affinities for moves outside their narrow core style, so going outside that core will cost them a lot of breath. Running in particular is very expensive to non-pro-wrasslin' styles.

>>15099056

Not anymore.

The guy that created my pyrotechnics mod also made a mod that makes size modifiers inactive.

Good for mechs

Is there a channel or archive of the past 8chanmanias? I missed the whole lot.

>>15099270

Some of them are on the twitch channel. Some were lost to time

>>15100303

Not to mention that if he doesn't hand craft a bunch of wrestlers himself he will be missing out. Steam workshop makes the game immensely better.

>>15099438

Damn, should have got into the fun from the beginning.

>>15097653

>What's considered too OP for future use in the manias?

giant/giant is banned by TNA iirc. He also will most likely change your return style to something else american usually if you set it to giant but set the fight style to something else. that counter rate can be pretty obnoxious. Though usually a power/giant, heel/giant, or any other combinations sans giant/giant tend to be fine on my end.

> How often do you have your wrestlers perform their finishers and such?

In the cpu logic you've got the initiate grapple menu-sheet-thing. in the LRG damage column, you should recognize the finisher you set among the moves near the bottom, which in the stock cpu logic iirc are mostly set to 10% with one being like 5%. I typically set the finisher to be 10% along with the other big moves at that stage if I'm making something I want to be balanced.

>What is the acceptable ratio for move executions so that wrestlers don't spam that one fucking move like Nidorina?

Just have them in an equal-ish ratio with the other moves in the initiate grapple or circle opponent menus. You can go a bit crazy with it if you want to have a wrestler to use a move as a defining characteristic, without it being spammy. Example: you make a character that you want to use bite a lot to show he's a vicious animal in the ring. So you go through the small damage column, and while keeping the percentages for the sml damage moves balanced (~10% on each) you can scroll down to the bottom and make bite worth around ~12% to maybe even 15%. that will guarantee the wrestler will do the move enough to be noticeable, since it's the same to slightly higher percentage than his regular moveset at that stage, but won't spam your shit in like how Nidorina was. Nidorina had 80 fucking percent on "Go2Sleep" at large damage, it was ridiculous.

>Any style to be careful about or does that not matter all that much in the long run?

Nah man, just do whatever you want with it. This game lets you be amazingly creative with the styles that are given. None are particularly OP on their own, they all have weaknesses, it's just the building of an obnoxiously good wrestler in their cpu/parameters/skill that creates OP wrestlers. BUT TNA will ban giant/giants to play differently I believe, unless he got a mod to reduce their ridiculous counter rate and he doesn't balance check them like that anymore. Also, 180-190 points is the point range for wrestlers in 8chanmania.

>>15101827

TNA HERE

GIANT/GIANT IS ALLOWED, AS I HAVE A MOD THAT MAKES THE GIANT SIZE AESTHETIC ONLY

>>15101858

So you have no idea what giant/giant was?