8b99a4 No.15081380
What went wrong?
How would you fix it?
Would you institute a paid membership program?
211540 No.15081385
5bd971 No.15081386
>>15081380
You can't bring arcades back from the dead anon.
8b99a4 No.15081488
>>15081386
Never said anything about bringing them back from the dead. Meant how would you save them if they were still alive (Circa 90s)
c7b7e6 No.15081516
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>>15081380
>What went wrong?
The advent of online gaming on consoles probably helped kill them.
>How would you fix it?
Doesn't need fixing, really. Arcades are sort of beginning to make a comeback. There is a sizable enough demand for gaming spaces, and they have "retro appeal" in the eyes of the normalfags these days which never goes out of fashion.
One thing they could offer is unlimited play for a set price every time you come in. But if not, the quarter system works just fine.
1ecb7a No.15081522
If I had to create a modern day arcade, I would have only acrual arcade games, no prize game bullshit. I'd also have no tickets or prize counter. I'd have a small bar and food area that only serves certain snack fokds, not likke full meals. Stuff to snack on when you're too lazy to go somewhere else. All games would be unlimited play, but there would be a paid membership to get in of course.
114afe No.15081562
>>15081380
At least once in your lifetime you shout play Initial D on real arcade cabinet. Its a fascinating experience. The steering is really fucking tight and pedals feel amazing.
655ef8 No.15081566
I went to an arcade recently. Save yourself the disappointment. It had a couple arcade classics, you know, a couple of fighters, a couple of light guns, some shmups, but everything else was guitar hero, mobile games on big screens, or ticket "games". It was honestly not worth breaking a $5. If there was ever a chance for an arcade revival, it is long gone.
17f693 No.15081587
>>15081385
I know, right? Everything should just be free. Fuck the livelihoods of the people who make good games which I enjoy playing.
60db1f No.15081595
>What went wrong?
Affordable home vidya
>How would you fix it?
Provide the vidya experience most can't afford at home eg. high end VR with moving cockpits.
>>15081488
Nothing would have worked at that time, if you wanted to provide something most couldn't afford you would need games that wouldn't run on existing hardware driving demand for better hardware.
23d1e3 No.15081601
>>15081380
>What went wrong?
People can easily get most of the games at home, be it console, PC or emulator.
>How would you fix it?
Add VR games since most people don't have VR setups.
5c5bf6 No.15081663
Here in my country they were just too expensive, and most of the time they didn't work well. Time Crisis cabinets had their guns massively disaligned, and most of the time the personnel there won't give you free credits unless the controls really don't work at all. Last time I went to one of these places, they had some "VR experience" with hydraulic chairs, an Oculus Rift and some massive headphones. Thing was misconfigured and instead of being 3D, it displayed both eyes in a single screen (so I was effectively seeing double), and that was for the trip that worked. The second one had the Oculus displaying a black screen, and despite signaling them again and again that it didn't work, they kept ignoring me, so I pressed the emergency stop button. Fuckers didn't want to return me my money, so I vowed to never return there again, which probably was a sane choice considering their cabinets were configured to give less lives per credit than usual (Time Crisis III gave you 3 lives instead of the usual 5).
What went wrong, you say? First, consoles became better and cheaper. Second, since consoles became cheaper, arcade places inflated their prices to keep receiving the same income as before, which made them lose even more customers to the rampant jewry, which ensured even more jewry to try to recover their lost income, until they had to close.
63487a No.15081667
>how would you save them
Tournaments for score, speed, and fightan.
Daily random freeplay machines.
High level of local community involvement.
When the tech came around, stream the tournaments.
Turn it into a museum by focusing on either a company or a style of arcade machine to attract a foreign audience.
Serve booze after 9 or 10 and stop letting kids in a half hour earlier.
Gimmicky thematic uniforms for employees.
Attempt to attract a quality pizzeria to start business within a short walk.
Support card games and table top with a room with fold out tables.
Be in a tech friendly locality that would hopefully draw game developers and offer specials to dev teams.
Live in a magical fairy tale land where everything works out perfectly despite the market rejecting the business completely.
b4312e No.15081731
>>15081380
It would have to be a lot more of an experience than consoles still, I'm not sure how it could compete with gimmicks even, unless it included blowjobs.
c12668 No.15081761
It's cliched, but barcade. Games are free, pay for entry (2 drink minimum). The business model can't survive without very dedicated patrons and they don't fall out of the sky.
63487a No.15081807
>>15081761
You'd be surprised. There's bars that get away with just having a bunch of pinball machines and nowhere to sit. But the only reason this works is because of location location location
fc13a9 No.15082023
>>15081761
>wanting drunk faggots who don't give a hit about vidya to beat the fuck out of classic machines
Are you a nigger because you sound like one.
bdca76 No.15082130
>>15081380
>What went wrong?
You can play same games at x1000000 cheaper price at home.
>How would you fix it?
Really how this price disparity can be fixed? It can't.
dcfb2f No.15082151
Home vidya killed them. You put down a significant chunk of money for a game you can play as much as you want. Later games even let you save your progress, something arcade games would never allow as it would mean less money.
c12668 No.15082221
>>15082023
Who said anything about classic machines?
33ecab No.15082241
>>15081380
>Would you institute a paid membership program?
I remember the local Timezone had unlimited play on Friday and Saturday nights from 9pm through to 2am for $25. You just stuck your hand in the air next to a game and the staff would you max credits. It was good shit.
1ecb7a No.15082292
>>15081566
The chance isn't gone, someone just needs to step up and make an arcade thats actually worth going to. No shitty oversized mobile games, no millions of prize games, no tickets, just games. Get some rare imported Japanese games in there too to be guaranteed the weeb crowd at least.
841a16 No.15082387
>What went wrong?
(American) Gangs and increasingly hyper aggressive monetization of games
>How would you fix it?
I'm not sure what you could you do about Gang related issues in America since most gangs are racialized and actual enforcement to keep gangs out could be complicated, location could potentially help a lot, and as far as monetization related issues go that's more of a software developer end issue.
4555f9 No.15082472
>>15081380
- Make it a bar and have beer expensive because you're there to play games.
- an entrance fee or one quarter can give you maximum credits
- multiple mame arcade cabinets that anyone can play anygame they want.
- get a security guard so that they can throw a salty mother fucker or a nigger out
- security cameras in the corner so they can't mug and sell drugs
- anime shit on the entrance and wall to scare off normalfags and only people with interest in videogames will enter the store
- have arcade competitions, shmup competitions, jeopardy nights to entertain people. maybe show the main arcade game night on a giant projector on the wall so everyone sees
b0abe8 No.15082544
>>15081380
Niggers were allowed in the country. Genocide the niggers, and arcades can be good again.
>>15081587
Game developers turned out to be marxists, so, yeah, fuck the livelihood of those that make (debatable) good games which i enjoy playing. Steal from them and let them starve to death. They are slaves, and not people.
>>15082151
Japanese arcades have memory card entries and save progress constantly. The catch? They are all gacha shit.
cebd56 No.15082647
Fightan arcades seem to be doing moderately well in large cities if they can find a dedicated community to keep things going. There's a place near me that hosts tournaments and other events for all sorts of games every weekend and they have legit arcade cabs. They do charge 10 bucks to get in, so they're not charging by the game.
If an arcade doesn't have a community of fightan players to keep it alive in the US, I don't know what will outside of the previously mentioned Barcades (which are also really location-dependent). How many people really wanna drive 1hr+ to go to an arcade just so they can play some Time Crisis or something?
b1d53f No.15082846
>What went wrong?
Niggers
>How would you fix it?
Get rid of niggers.
bc1d11 No.15082889
Seattle has an active pinball scene and even a dedicated zine that keeps track of all the machines in the area. Even if it's a pizza place with one pinball machine they'll list it. I can only assume this works because it's a tech city that costs too much to live in so all the residents are leftist hipsters that can not only afford to dump quarters but also find doing so validates their personality. PDX has a fair arcade scene and hosts a retro games expo yearly with support of local arcades and collectors. San Francisco has fuck all for either and I didn't bother looking when I spent time south of there in LA and San Diego. If I'm to understand correctly there's a few successful arcades/barcades in the Northeast corridor. In the South there are very few arcades, with the only barcade I've seen, personally, having more chairs and tables than machines, and is a joke of an arcade (high score leaderboard doesn't care how many quarters you use).
I'm not familiar with Texas nor the mid west when it comes to arcades but I'd imagine Austin has at least one that's profitable regardless of whether or not it's good.
Of course there's a couple arcades that have a legacy and international notoriety, for better or for worse, which helps keep them afloat.
~90% of what I've seen are places that also sell booze and/or is a bowling alley.
I'm not certain that an arcade would be able to survive outside of a metropolitan area. I'm also not convinced these establishments will still be around in 10-20 years, due to their target audience growing older.
If not in a city the only place I could see a promising future for an arcade would be an area with a high turnover rate for families, people moving in for schooling for their kids, then moving out after graduation to retire somewhere else.
And arcade machines are fucking expensive for something that gets a quarter at a time and often times only supports one player; I don't see how one would open an arcade without having already invested in procuring machines unless they suck it up and take a big hit right at the beginning of their business venture, either through an upfront investment or (((loans))).
0a440c No.15082955
The problem with arcades always was the amount of money you need to start one, the small return you get for running one, and the fact that most arcade consumers were teenagers and children who played more console games because they didn't have to feed the machine quarters even if they were at home playing an inferior version of the arcade game.
What started killing arcades at least in my region was when the games started getting more and more expensive(because once again the arcades were dying because of consoles and nobody going so the prices had to go up) It eventually got to the point where arcade machines had dollar slots…. This killed the games.
338038 No.15083003
>>15081380
>How would you fix it?
Have some sort of connectivity with popular console/PC games. Basically have a popular arcade counterpart, like what F-Zero AX and GX did. It gives players a reason to play at the arcade so they can unlock stuff for the games they play at home.
>Would you institute a paid membership program?
If it means keeping children, niggers, and casuals out, then absolutely.
>>15082955
>It eventually got to the point where arcade machines had dollar slots…. This killed the games.
This is what happened in my region as well. I remember any restaurant that wasn't fast food or fancy had an arcade until they all started charging $1 (at least for the 3D games). There were also concerned parents complaining about the violent video games so some even increased the fee to $5 or more.
75baf7 No.15083024
>>15081380
>How would you fix it?
Make your own.
0a440c No.15083025
>>15083003
yea my parents were more concerned about the fact that silent scope and street fighter 3 required me to have like 20 dollars so I can just play for like 30 minutes. This is bad. This killed arcades. The prices were way too high when my parents could just go to a used game store and find some piece of shit on sega genesis to keep me grounded for way longer.
bc1d11 No.15083047
>>15082955
This. Even renting machines is too expensive. Repairing machines gets more and more expensive with less and less demand for people with the skills to do so lowering the amount of people who can do so to the point where arcade repairmen are just about specialists who are likely looking to further their career past ever having to work on an arcade again.
But, I do wonder how well an arcade would do as an appendage to a financially stable retro game store and/or comic shop. Would each draw customers to each other effectively enough to keep them in the black? The bar method appears to work under certain circumstances, would other combinations work beyond arcade+bar?
0a440c No.15083062
>>15083047
no the only arcade that works in my area is the one where it's a dedicated barcade that has actual old arcade games(it's not dave and busters shit)
The bowling alley had arcade games but once again when they break or something happens that shit is gone(nobodies gonna pay for repairs on an Xmen vs Street fighter machine that doesn't make money anyway)
TBH a Jukebox in any store is guaranteed to make more money than an arcade machine.
0a440c No.15083088
>>15083047
I would also like to add that modern gamers are less tolerant of actual arcade games(games like metal slug, schmups, street fighter games, etc.) These are all difficult as fuck games with huge learning curves and normalfags don't want to play them. I remember street fighter in particular always being a very expensive cabinet at the old "Fun Zone" arcade but small playerbase compared to games like "House of the Dead" and other games like that. TBH if you want an arcade game in a store and you want it to make money it better be something like Golden Tee for oldfags or House of the Dead(because once again this is one of those types of machines that always makes money because it's pick up and play)
338038 No.15083145
>>15083025
Even worse, there were arcade cabinets that only take credit or debit just to prove that you were an adult or at least in your late teens. This especially sucks if you mostly stick to cash like I do.
>>15083062
>but once again when they break or something happens that shit is gone
I forgot about this. It's another huge factor of the decline of arcades because there will always be that one piece of shit who will destroy the cabinet out of anger and those people who try to tamper with the machines to decrease the price or clear the high scores. And I bet most arcade owners (especially bowling alley owners) aren't very tech literate to fix them otherwise there wouldn't be so many games being replaced every few months.
0a440c No.15083203
>>15083145
I don't even remembering them replacing it one day it was just gone and I asked about what happened and they just said "It broke." So they probably sold the broken thing on craigslist or some shit and made a quick buck off someone that actually collects these monstrosities. I bet the joysticks broke off because every time I would go with a group of friends a bunch of dumbasses, nogs, and thots grab joysticks like they are fucking baseballs and just jerk them around with no respect whatsoever. I imagine it's like an n64 controller that just wears the fuck out and the switches stop responding to inputs.
b616b3 No.15083207
>>15081380
Well why did people stop going to arcades in the first place?
bc1d11 No.15083217
>>15083062
>the only arcade that works in my area is the one where it's a dedicated barcade that has actual old arcade games
Unfortunately this has also been my experience. (Unless of course it's a Dave & Buster's or what have you)
>>15083088 (checked)
I have to agree with you here. The younger generation doesn't seem to have the drive nor patience to play old, hard as nails games. The reason I suggested the potential for a retro game store having an arcade is that old games like that are pretty much all harder than anything released recently, so in theory the customers would already be attracted to those kinds of games.
0a440c No.15083237
>>15083217
>The younger generation doesn't seem to have the drive nor patience to play old, hard as nails games.
The thing is there are more "gamers" than ever before but it's still the same shit. Most "Gamers" just consume the triple a press X to win and press y to dodge with like a 40 frame input buffer so they feel good about themselves. The amount of people who actually will sit down and dedicate like 1000 hours to just getting proficient at a game like street fighter 3 is very very small. The younger generation does have the patience it's just the rare ones just like it was before that stick with it and try to get good at things. Videogames are quickly becoming more like the cinema because it's becoming this huge multi billion dollar industry with more possibilities and ways to reach out to any demographic(usually 99 percent of the time with gimmicks like vr motion sense etc.) than movies do. It's not going to be like the 90s where it was more of a niche thing(it wasn't even really niche it just wasn't this massive entity that it is now) I think gaming is honestly just too big at the moment and that's why we are going to drown in alot of shit.
6a5689 No.15083263
>How would you fix it?
build epic computer boxes
get developers to make their vidya for you first
2e0ac5 No.15083283
>>15081380
Ever been to a Dave n' Busters? I thought they'd be shitty until I was invited to one while on vacation to Puerto Rico and I was more than impressed with the amount of games all over the place, the food menu (i was craving some cheese so i got the ultimate mac n cheese or something, it was a bit too salty what with the bacon I couldn't finish it, but it satisfied the cheese craving), clean bathrooms, and drink selection at the bar.
bc1d11 No.15083288
>>15083237
If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying the market is so bloated and mainstream that difficulty/skill driven games are becoming less and less viable and as such less and less profitable due to the sheer number of casual alternatives that appear to satiate the general consumer base well enough to keep itself afloat.
I tend to agree
I wish there was a way to promote people wanting to play hard games for reasons like rubbing it in your friend's face and telling strangers they suck. How do we make elitism cool again? Would that help draw people to difficult games or even out to arcades? Is a market crash the only option?
I don't know what to do
b0abe8 No.15083296
>>15083288
Yes. The inevitable crash is the only option.
e7cc1e No.15083314
>>15081667
>connected card game/tabletop room
that would be sweet
e7cc1e No.15083316
>>15083283
Too bad the cabinets are typical low quality stuff with only a few interesting games]
It felt more like a cheap boardwalk arcade than a higher end one
2e0ac5 No.15083335
>>15083316
Ye there were a lot of games that would appeal to the average normaalfag like Temple Run for example. Still a good place to hang out with co-workers/friends. What would you describe as a "higher end" arcade?
2e0ac5 No.15083394
>>15083352
I was hoping for something on this side of the world, but ok.
b5ec45 No.15083420
>>15083283
Dave and Busters vary wildly in quality, and most are filled with garbage like pic related. Sure, some may have a few decent games, but that doesn't offset the shitty kids running everywhere and how insanely overpriced it is.
3b2bdb No.15083456
Use zoning laws to increase population density and prioritize walkability and public transport.
bc1d11 No.15083458
>>15083394
I think the biggest arcade in the world is in Indiana or Illinois
4555f9 No.15083468
>>15083458
the galloping ghost arcade is in chicago, Illinois if that is the one you're talking about
bc1d11 No.15083507
>>15083468
Yes. There's also a place in New Hampshire that was awarded "biggest arcade" by Guinness back in '08 called Funspot. There's also a pinball museum in Nevada that I believe has the most pin machines.
3a1b96 No.15083539
I go to the Round 1 here a few times a month. I absolutely love it. It's expensive but only because I play so much.
Currently playing Magicians Dead and Time Crisis 5. Was kind of iffy on Time Crisis 5 at first but it's grown on me. Magicians Dead is pretty fun but once the tutorial stuff is done you need to play online and since nobody is playing this shit in general (i was #1 worldwide weekly after playing 6 games)and especially not when Ameriburgers are up you just stand there like an asshole until the matchmaking fucks out and it let's you play bots.
Maximum Tune 5 has online but it's ghost data. That works better. Nice seeing who challenged you since last visit and what arcade they play at.
Dave and Busters gets a lot of shit, bloo bloo real gaming's dead or whatever but I've never had an issue with them. I don't go often but usually they machines are in pretty good condition. 1cc Time Crisis 2 and 4 everytime.
Last visits I road tripped to get to the Maximum Tune 5 location test they had and the food was pretty good.
A local place here had the new TMNT but $1.25 a credit though. Played one it seemed OK but eh.
Not a fan of the whole arcades are dead meme. Just keep repeating it and don't go and then act surprised that you don't go.
a70cbe No.15083575
As someone who was responsible for maintaining one of my cities largest arcades with some of the most advanced (Full body motion, head/arm tracking, full 360 seats) machines that hit the states, it's not viable on a large scale without some other money sink attached.
Upkeep on machines used to be simple even as much as 10 years ago, however as older technicians retired nearly no one came in to fill the shoes. With very little written knowledge on machines, and a fair amount of electrical and mechanical skill needed to fix certain aspects of aging cabinets, boards, controllers, and other motorized parts, it became too difficult to reliably maintain old or complex machines. Therefore, in most modern (US) arcades you see many more simple machine types, such as shooters, air hockey, racing games (mostly using a steering wheel), and mobile phone ports. You are hard pressed to even find classic cabinets like fighters, platforms, correct input (like dragon’s lair), or beat-um-ups. These major draw machines back 10-30 years ago flew out of the arcade niche as they became household names.
Along with this, the saturation of home consoles flooded what used to be considered a niche market. Nearly 50% of homes in the US have a physical console in them, and nearly 77% of American's own smart phones. There was no more reason to pay 50c per life in gauntlet, there was no point to paying 25c a match for street fighter, and you could jump barrels at your home for free. To combat this, complex machines came out, something you couldn't experience from home. Shooters, racing game setups, prize games, simulation games like boxing, and any other gimmick you could imagine started becoming the new craze. These machines grew more and more complex until the market simply dried out. Sales of arcades began to sharply decline (v.s. cost to maintain) in the early 2000’s for most shops.
A last-ditch effort was made to keep kids (and therefore, parents with money) coming to arcades. Tickets, prizes, and birthday parties. Games like claw machines had proven to have margins far beyond that of regular cabinets. People would end up paying nearly 50-60 times the cost of whatever it was in the machine they were trying to win.
With decreasing profit margins many investors in the market began pulling out of companies that were developing games as well, which led to a sharp influx on lower end knock offs. This wouldn’t have been such a bad thing, however even what most people would consider higher end manufactures began using lower quality parts, cabinets, and tech. Analog gave way to digital, mechanical began to be replaced with rubberized, woods replaced with plastics, vector and crt’s replaced with flat panels that didn’t function as well (Less of an issue these days, but was a huge issue back then). By the time home computers became cheaper than manufacturing your own boards, nearly every cabinet was running off of a windows 2000 or XP box. Eventually you would start seeing PS2’s, or other main brand consoles in them, but arcades were nearly dead by then anyhow.
As an answer to the question that was asked, how do we bring them back. It’s not something that’s possible on the scale it was, at least not in the US. The Japanese arcade markets survive both off admission prices, simple machines, and most of them are subsidized by gambling mechanics (pachinko being the most well-known). In order for an arcade to flourish these days it either has to rely off reputation alone (which is why we have very few, extremely large arcades in the states) or it has to be attached to a business with a stronger draw in of food/fun of some sort. Chuck e cheese, Dave and Busters, and other such locations are fairly common sights, although for those of you expecting an 80’s-90’s-00’s arcade will be extremely disappointed in the quality of the cabinets, the price, and food in each of these. Majorly filled with bad mobile games, shooting games, sports games, and rigged ticket games, you’ll generally wish that you hadn’t gone to preserve the nostalgia. I would personally recommend going to local places, not main brands, or the large almost amusement parks they have in some cities for arcades. You could also go to East Asia too, but that’s quite the trip to pay 25c to play street fighter one last time.
2e0ac5 No.15083587
>>15083575
your post almost makes me appreciate those who use "meme spacing"
fd0f8b No.15083604
>>15081667
>tech friendly locality
Said magical fairy tale land would also have to have places that are both tech-friendly and free of hipster faggots looking for any way they can to accuse you or your arcade of being sexist and put it out of business. Because the real world sure as hell doesn't have any.
2b7382 No.15083611
>>15081380
>What went wrong?
Home consoles, handheld, and mobile phones got more powerful and online gaming, plus the the mid-80s to early 90s of going to arcades after school or in the weekends to play with your buddies is done and gone, demographics grew up and the new ones didn't care about it to replace the audience.
>How would you fix it?
I really have a hard time imagining anyone from /v/ going on arcades (Fuckuing soyboy hipsters and dykes I can see) you can't fix a once in a lifetime experience, but the only way I can see this moving is to us VR and make simulator games, because it works.
a2c0e8 No.15083616
>>15081380
A man cave home arcade with friendly neighbors and kids is the closest thing we're going to get to having a classic arcade experience in this day and age
t. 70s fag with kids and a man cave
>>15083283
Round 1 > DnB
bc1d11 No.15083626
>>15083575
Thanks for the insight.
>>15083604
Yeah it's not a pretty predicament we're in.
c3d873 No.15084048
>>15081380
>Would you institute a paid membership program?
Only if that means the machines are on free play. Obviously that means rules for cabinet hoggers, but the best solution I can come up with is report someone to staff and have their account thing reprimanded but this seems easy for abuse.
c3d873 No.15084068
>>15083024
This reminds me of that sex dungeon from SWAT 4.
bc1d11 No.15084069
>>15084048
>Only if that means the machines are on free play
I believe that is what it means
>Obviously that means rules for cabinet hoggers
Put a quarter on the machine on the screen, and I mean on the machine on the screen. If that isn't respected then the person occupying the machine should be ejected from that game until the entire line has played as much as they want.
Arcade etiquette is a real thing that most players appear to respect.
c3d873 No.15084139
>>15084069
Seems like a non-issue then.
Might as well answer the rest of the questions
>What went wrong?
Home consoles outpacing arcades technologically along with the popularization of online play.
>How would you fix it?
An arcade in this market has to survive on some type of gimmick. VR seems to be the new hotness and could be where you get the bulk of your consumer base since a lot of people want to try it out and it's too expensive for the average person.
Starting out with little budget you'd might want to only have about 3-5 VR setups with enough space quartered off for people to move around less restrictively than a typical home/bedroom setup. You'd have to pay extra to use the VR, but that would also merit you unlimited access to the arcade for when you're waiting since I imagine that'll be the hook for most people, but if it proves successful, then you obviously invest in more VR rooms as well as more flashy cabinets. Of course you could pay just to have access to the arcade by either paying a one day fee or signing up for a membership valid for a certain amount of time.
My ideal arcade setup would have an attached or in-building restaurant that sells food with minimal grease/spill potential, A main hall filled to the brim with arcade cabinets, a level above that overlooks the arcade with possibly a bar, and tables that could be used for tabletop, and void-esque combinations of environment and VR that get swapped out ever so often. Gimmicks for members would be stuff like after hours arcade tournaments with prizes, LAN parties, tabletop campaigns, and movie nights.
978a54 No.15084167
>>15081385
I know, right? Who the fuck would squander precious sheckels on vidya? Based Schlomo.
978a54 No.15084169
I still play DDR regularly. Arcades are still alive and well. They just have restaurants attached to them so you can eat.
bc1d11 No.15084181
>>15084139
Well, you see, my dad works at Nintendo, and the people that work on VR rooms aren't concerned with arcades, they are courting companies like Universal and Disney to make full VR rides and shit like that. As unfortunate and unbelievable as that is, I tell you it is the truth. VR's future does not coincide with the future of arcade.
0c1da3 No.15084196
>>15084169
>Arcades are still alive and well
>They just have restaurants attached to them
those are two very contradictory statements
75baf7 No.15084204
>>15084068
A sex dungeon with arcade games eh? Sounds like my kind of party.
c98138 No.15084213
What went wrong? We just stopped needing them.
Arcades used to be those super high-end, no-compromise machines. They were far more powerful than any home system, so ports usually had to be technically simplified. But hardware got better and cheaper, and eventually we got the full arcade experience at home. (And I don't mean the Neo Geo, I mean the Dreamcast, because it was actually affordable.) After that, why bother with coin munchers? They were no longer beyond what we have at home.
482f8c No.15084698
>>15081562
Wangan Midnight is better.
621396 No.15084703
>>15084196
That fucking picture.
482f8c No.15084720
>>15083296
The crash will never come. There is an endless stream of new customers just as ignorant of what a video game actually is as the original wave of Xbox owners.
5adc67 No.15084739
>>15084720
There are not enough suckers born to sate shareholders needs to want constant profits and growth each year. Either game budgets get more modest or the Battlefront 2 fiasco will be the first of many.
8d5a5e No.15084846
>>15082846
This is unironically the right answer.
243614 No.15084870
>>15081380
>Would you institute a paid membership program?
That's how my arcade does it. Or just a day rate.
39a97a No.15084898
Nothing?
Now it's called MMO.
2cf7dd No.15084963
Went to an arcade last night. It had a bar with a long list of beer (kinda meh options) and some "gamer" style mixed drinks, friendly staff, and sports bar food. Lots of games. Got through my nostalgia kick with $10 tokens playin Area51/Maximum Force, TMNT, 1942, Metal Slug, pinball, Street Fighter, and Pacman. Good time.
978a54 No.15085559
>>15084196
No they aren't? Its actually smart. Food and games are two things that individually are not special but put together can bring people together. In the 80s people had to go where the games were, but now the games are free and come to them. Put games where people eat and then people start to congregate there.
b840c7 No.15085577
They're actually making a comeback in some cities
One I go to has a different business model:
>$10 flat entrance fee
>All games on free mode
>Sells alcohol and bar food like chili fries
>Kicks all minors out after 9pm
It's pretty rad. Damn thing is infested with soyboys though.
b840c7 No.15085585
>>15084069
Have you considered the possibility of having multiple duplicates of popular game cabinets
b840c7 No.15085592
>>15085577
I am now aware that the term is "Barcade"
c29621 No.15085611
>>15084169
>Go to restaurant with arcade attached
>Go to the arcade cabinets
>Immediately disgusted as I touch the controls and feel a layer of sweat and oil left on them by children and faggots who don't wash their fucking hands after eating or worse, were just shoveling greasy pizza down their fat fucking face as they were playing
>Arcade has no wipes to clean off the grease or does have a spot for wipes but they're never stocked
>If this wasn't bad enough some faggot kid starts screaming in your ear to go away from the arcade cabinet because "It's my birthday and I want to play THIS one!"
"Alive and well" is the exact opposite of what you're describing. What you're describing is barely a step up from the complete absence of arcades.
65aae8 No.15085639
>>15081380
It's already fixed pretty much
>host card game tournaments
>host console tournaments
>flat venue fee, play everything else for free
I've seen loads of arcades now make comebacks if they are structured properly.
978a54 No.15085650
>>15085611
> not going after hours
> Not having an attendant clean that shit because it is their fucking job
Sucks to be you, fam.
ea6475 No.15085725
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>>15081380
How you bring back arcades from the dead is simple.
>Have a bunch of money
>Buy a bunch of machines
>a flat fee to enter the building
>Machines on free play
>Have a rentable party room
>Host private parties for big money
>Host local vidya tournaments to generate foot traffic
>Also sell magic the gathering cards for some reason and host those tournaments
>Also comic books
>The magic cards will be one of your main sources of income for some reason
That's how my local arcade is doing it. They opened a couple years ago and keep adding more machines.
d2bc2e No.15085745
Well barcades were a thing for like half a year, but I guess that died out.
I keep wondering why some enterprising people don't just make a VR arcade that doesn't charge 30 fucking bucks for 15 minutes
978a54 No.15085891
>>15085725
> supporting Magic cards and comic books
Nice post, reddit. Maybe they should expand their inventory to hair dye and problem glasses too.
ea6475 No.15085899
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>>15085891
>Only supporting a niche market of /v/ and /pol/ users
Somehow I don't think I'll be the richest sheckleberg if I do it that way.
0c1da3 No.15085930
>>15085559
Yes they are.
Arcades can't be alive and well if they have resorted to these means of attracting customers,the only food or beverage acceptable to be seen within 50 yards of an arcade comes either from some automated vendor or alternatively some shifty guy with a hot-dog stand across the street that probably also sells drugs;anything else is a sub-par,watered-down,dilluted to the Nth degree,0 callorie,0%alcohol ,soy included,Disneyfied™ experience of going to the arcades and will simply not do.
978a54 No.15085958
> youtube linked /leftypol/ tier maymay vid
Well, at least you aren't denying that you are reddit.
> Thinking game nerds only like pozzed tabletop shit and le awesome genderswap propaganda cartoons
You definitely won't be the richest sheckelberg that way. You won't even be a very successful one.
>>15085930
Amazon doesn't sell just books anymore. I guess Amazon is dying.
ea6475 No.15086098
>>15085958
I'm just telling your about a locally successful business model. By all means open up your natsocgameshop/body building gym. I'll be your first customer.
1a8d40 No.15086309
>>15081385
>using the processor jew
>connecting through the wire jew or the wireless jew or the satellite jew
>posting on a board run by the cake jew, owned by the cripple jew, hosted by the server jew
>participating in the society jew
>living on the planet jew
>breathing the oxygen jew
b840c7 No.15086334
>>15085611
>Mad about there being shitty children in an arcade, a place primarily for children
That's not something you can avoid, fam. Which is why I so love my local place's "NO BASTARD CHILDREN AFTER 9PM" policy
b840c7 No.15086339
>>15086309
>Posting on the imageboard jew
0c1da3 No.15086624
>>15085958
And 4chan has 1 mil. visitors a day,i guess that's another success as far as you're concerned too
c29621 No.15086645
>>15085958
Apples and Oranges comparison. Amazon was an online storefront that only sold books. An online storefront can and probably should in most cases, be expanded. Arcades got shoved into what used to be closets of your local restaurants because they are not profitable by themselves. Arcades being turned into a sideshow attraction for restaurants isn't expansion like what Amazon did, it's a reduction done out of necessity.
>>15086334
Kids can have their arcade games. But if an arcade popped up in today's times, they'd do well to have a "Kids Korner" and keep their disgusting lack of hygiene away from the adults.
0c4512 No.15086667
>>15086624
we already got overrun by cuckchan and reddit because of the elections, decent people left /v/ already
c29621 No.15086673
>>15086667
It used to be a joke to say "/v/ is for fun posting" but now you really have to go to the other vidya boards on this site if you want to actually discuss games and not just have your thread derailed by faggots spamming memes.
cb841c No.15086680
>>15081385
Kill yourself.
Also, home consoles killed the arcades.
Why pay 25 cents to a single chance at something when i can just sit at my ass home and play all i want.
fb3ad9 No.15086714
>>15083616
>man cave
Anyone who's this whipped should be shot
0c1da3 No.15086740
>>15086667
>decent people
>we
>it's all ogre nao
if i had one bitcoin for every time i've read this shit these past 4 years or so,i would have today exactly nothingbecause it's not a real currency
c45669 No.15086757
>>15081380
>What went wrong?
Personal computers & consoles going from being rich kids' toys to standard equipment.
>How would you fix it?
I wouldn't. It's not broken.
28d9b5 No.15086855
>>15081380
Membership is best. Keeps the riffraff out.
b57bb5 No.15088512
Arcades are hard to come by anymore. It's a shame. Even harder to find one with a decent mix of old and slightly new-er? I like a machine of time crisis 3 alongside my robotron 2084, not 4 donkey kong machines and a pac-man cab or two. Hipster "retro" sucks.
28d9b5 No.15089914
Find busy highway stop or truck stop with overnight parking and 24 7 junk food add arcade. Profit
c8b59b No.15090527
Home consoles got not shit, and the necessity to go out and put up with shitkids and minorities and chewing gum in coin slots went away.
c12668 No.15091940
Hold on to your seats, I have an idea that's going to blow the yarmulke off your skull: Hostess arcade club. Get a bunch of GAMUR GURLS to play 2P with you while they feed you overpriced alcohol until you can't stand. It gets better. Have the girls open up Twitch channels and take a (small) percentage off their tips and subscribes. Special promo meet-and-greet nights with seasoned Twitch whores. Anime nights. Cosplay nights. Anime cosplay nights.
21a055 No.15091971
Contrary to what is pushed, which is that home consoles killed arcades, it actually had to do with the social environment in America.
eeb0d0 No.15092115
>>15086624
We had 550,000 the other day according to my email from CM.
aa3091 No.15092128
Gaming bars are flopping out there, they're closing down bit by bit. Now if you want to have a huge Arcade out here, you need to either be A. a waterpark, or B.An amusement park.
The FGC and the Bemani scene still thrives out there mainly because the major arcades are usually part of a larger attraction.
aa3091 No.15092138
>>15091940
Niggers would find a way to ruin it, and bodyguards (used to keep the niggers away from the whores, I mean, gaymer girls) would kill the atmosphere.
Solid idea otherwise.
e96951 No.15092179
>>15092115
And yet shills insist this website isn't relevant.
a81410 No.15092183
>>15092115
Was that before or after accounting for the cianigger a.i?
>>15081380
Their dead jim
ed088c No.15092191
>>15092115
Did he say how many are active posters?
It would be interesting to see the breakdown for any given day on average, how many people lurk, how many post regularly in one or more threads, how many do (1) and dones, and how many boards on average they post on
a81410 No.15092204
>>15092191
Over 70% of the posters are (1) and done's. 90% or more lurk. Lurk moar.
3136da No.15092302
>>15086740
>because it's not a real currency
Neither is paper.
5bd971 No.15092313
>>15092204
I think those lurkers should post more.
2b08ee No.15092338
Virtual reality booths. Monetization works the same as a gym.
9e4fa0 No.15092358
Paid membership might work (provided you actually have cool exclusive games, like the full body machines they pump out regularly in Japan, to make it worth paying for. As opposed to a dozen pac man cabinets) since then not only would it deter the niggers and other various subhumans who are there to fuck it up for everybody else, it would also make it easier to kick them out and keep them out once the remaining few who show up do fuck it up for everyone else. Just have to make sure you have at least 3 capable staff members or 1 hueg swole staff member on at all times to subdue any chimping.
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337457 No.15092399
>>15081667
Don’t forget about laser tag, anon. Gotta lunch in laser tag, with some retrowave music, black light, and other tourney shit.
337457 No.15092403
>>15092399
*punch
Fucking shit
0a8046 No.15092420
>new arcade opens in my local mall
>fucking pumped
>opens
>place is great, its got a great variety of cabinets, a few pool tables and complimentary soul blade
>kinda seedy so it keeps out the dumber children and their failure parents
>place closes for a week, whatever maybe they are painting the place
>come back and it is all ticket games and massive "prize" counter replaced the racing games
this is modern arcades, the best case scenario is that they all die off completely
337457 No.15092438
>>15082292
As I said before, lazer tag would be a great addition. But yeah, mostly keeping the place worth going to is the biggest challenge. Also, need to take a look at the cultural differences in other areas and how they manage arcades. Look at Japan, their arcade shit is still going. They even still have modern games like tekken and the dbz fighten game made specifically for arcade cabinets. They have VR pods for Gundam shit. So why are arcades still so prolific in Japan where as in areas like US and UK seemed to have kicked it to the way side?
337457 No.15092575
>>15085725
What about if MTG or other card games started manufacturing cards that had nfc chips built into them? Then using projectors and other shit to make them “come to life” in those black light lit rooms.
f7547f No.15092954
>>15085725
That sounds pretty fun
0c2232 No.15092975
>>15081516
There used to be a ticket arcade near me that had a few machines that had unlimited play. Plus, the ticket games used nickels instead of quarters, which was neat. I miss that place.
af0ca6 No.15093042
>>15086309
>the thinking jew's jew
bcefd7 No.15093660
>>15081380
all you fucking know nothing fucks must have only went to chuck e cheese, pole position, camelot etc, arcades were always shitholes in malls crawling with niggers and other assorted ilk, yuppie traps like gameworks and Dave and busters are 50% fruit ninja cabinents
0c1da3 No.15094075
>>15092115
That's all yours and his fault ,yours because you can't make a decision and stick to it without flip-flopping more than a group of snowniggers at a beach when visiting a place where the sun actually does come out in the morning and his for trying to be m00t 2.0 but mostly yours
>>15092302
At least i can still use paper to wipe my ass with when it all comes down to it,what are you gonna do with buttcoins?