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618823 No.15067922
This documentry really reveals how shit of a dev team Bethesda really is.
5:20
"This engine has been around since morrowind"
Bethesda for the love of christ just make a new engine.
5:30
"Nothing was developed with multiple players in mind"
>Not making your engine Actor focused
"All over the code what is the player doing, give a quest to the player"
"… The entire engine was based around one player and now that has to change"
"…The game doesn't load except around one player"
Not only does this intrinsically not matter to make a creation engine game multiplayer if this were true NPC/Items in TES/Fallout wouldn't be persistent and you couldn't just drop an item on the ground and pick it up later, which you can do.
6:00
"…Because there was one guy in the game we called him Atlas because he held up the world"
So nothing in your "Persistent world" is saved unless the player is near it? So not persistent?
"Because the world only had to be accessed by one player so they were tightly intertwined, so you had to decouple atlas from the world so there can be multiple people"
Again, why does it matter that there is an "Atlas" the creation engine is mainly a Client so you could have a server that the client receives data from like player locations and chest contents etc, so why did you have to tear up the entire engine if you could of simply just made Players npcs and have a server store the world data?
6:30
"For many months [Other players] couldn't move away from atlas or the game would crash"
W..why? Why are you building your engine this way bethesda this is completely unnecessary go look at all the multiplayer mods for TES and FO, it's not that hard to sync up data between clients, if a bunch of modders could do it for free in a year a professional dev team should be able to do it paid in a few months.
6:50
"The quest is it's own entity so you need to rearchtype that because multiple people can have that quest"
And? If it's a server quest that multiple people need to participate in make a new data type for global quest, regular quests could be saved client side or in a client save file on the server.
7:25
"Oh how many people read a note at once"
Why does that matter?
"Oh who gets this bit of the story"
The ones who's client has that quest active dipshit.
No wonder it takes fucking 5 years for bethesda to make a new game, all this shit and with the "collision" tools you have to use in 2013 3dsmax and then with the fucking Creation Kit crashing every ten fucking minutes.
Bethesda really just needs to outsource their IP's to Obsidian already.
20ad89 No.15068031
>>15067922
>so why did you have to tear up the entire engine if you could of simply just made Players npcs and have a server store the world data?
Bandwidth and network speeds.
>just made Players npcs
OP you need to go back to lurking.
>Bethesda really just needs to outsource their IP's to Obsidian already
Both Bethesda and Obsidian are garbage at making games these days.
dc1ed1 No.15068042
>>15067922
>haha the engine doesn't support multiplayer what a shitty engine what shitty developers!!
Of all the fucking problems in their duct tape dumpster engine, someone complains about a non-issue instead.
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8a16fc No.15068047
>>15068037
I still can't believe they got Zoe Quinn instead of Pushing Up Roses. PUR has done a lot of stuff about those types of games.
1daca0 No.15068073
>>15067922
>their IP's to Obsidian already.
So they can shit on them like they did with Tyranny?
This is nuObsidian we're talking about.
55644b No.15068096
>>15067922
As a potatonigger, I can't tell you how nice it is to find YouTube channels in an accent I don't find jarring.
3d7e6b No.15068104
>>15068073
Even if it was old Obsidian, they'd fuck it up and end up selling off the franchises to some other company.
55644b No.15068121
>This engine has been around since morrowind
It's even older than that, it's from the 90's.
6207d6 No.15068268
Bethesda's Gamebyro fork is a complete mess and it became more evident than ever on Fallout 4. Settlements feature is one of the most glitchy features I ever saw in any game, ever. And they're going to make a fucking multiplayer game revolving on this feature? This is going to be a disaster.
And before anyone talks, I pirated it back when it was launched and couldn't bear to end it because settlements and radiant shit annoyed the hell out of me.
e4162b No.15068301
>>15068285
Todd, it's not very PC of yours to use such words as the n-word.
a4e07d No.15068362
>>15068096
>>15067922
That faggot who narrates is 100% SJW. During Gamergoy he worked for Gamespot, spouting off on twitter how oppressed muh wymens in gaming are. Calling white men to die.
He lives in SoCal and is friends with those indie devs like 3million dollar man and Phil the faggot fish man.
He's a faggot and you two are for liking that shit.
55644b No.15068372
>>15068362
It's not like I know the history of every random fuck on YouTube, anon.
e94f7f No.15068387
>Disc0rd bloop at 7:75
Yeah this guy cant even be bothered to edit his videos properly then I can't be bothered to watch them.
also
>using discord
you should have just disregarded this whole video because you are gonna get bullied for it now
1b1de6 No.15068503
>>15068042
>non-issue
Fallout 76 is made in this engine, how is it not an issue?
0833a5 No.15068517
>>15068372
>random fuck gets firsthand access to Bethesda
>random fuck opens up with fellating unreleased game
I didn't recall his name, but it was all the hallmarks of "gaming journalism" in the first minute. But you're right, there are too people making videos whose voices make me wish for deafness.
71ca8f No.15068521
>>15068037
>>15068047
Zoe quinn made literally one fucking game, and it can arguably be said it wasn't really a game. The only thing she allegedly did adequately was sucking dicks, and I say allegedly because they're a bunch of pathetic sjw nerds which probably had their first time with that banshee.
8fefa0 No.15068523
>>15067922
>wanting nu-obsidian to make anything
Haven't you heard the news?
71ca8f No.15068525
>>15068523
>Haven't you heard the news?
Fish benis? ?
80ba31 No.15068663
Is TES6 going to still run on Gamebryo?
55644b No.15068686
e9f9ba No.15068687
>>15068047
>I still can't believe they got this tattooed commie whore instead of some other tattooed commie whore. TCW has done a lot of stub about those types of games.
349e82 No.15068692
>>15067922
>its fallout 4 but multiplayer and on a new map
I'm betting they're going to reuse 95% of prop assets too.
>>15068663
Yes
28e7a4 No.15068730
>>15068692
>I'm betting they're going to reuse 95% of prop assets too.
And I'm betting you can even port the remaining 5% to Fallout 4 with minimal effort.
349e82 No.15068747
>>15068730
But thats stealing and stealing is bannable >:( fucking nexusmods
e1343d No.15068800
>>15067922
>Caring about Bethesda games.
>Being an Obsidian fag.
4caaec No.15068831
When you pay your employees like shit, you get code monkeys. Quality of the final product is an irrelevant detail for Zenimax. You don't need to make a good game to sell it to the goys.
6ea1e6 No.15068891
>>15068831
BGS actually pays decent salaries and provides a comfortable work environment, unlike most game devs. Their problem is nepotism by jews and faggots.
27f828 No.15069193
>le engine buzzword
Every single time.
b84617 No.15069492
>>15068121
>>15069193
I AM FUCKING SHOCKED THEY ADMITTED PUBLICLY THAT ENGINE WAS FROM MORROWIND AT ALL
WATCH THIS BE IGNORED AND MEMORY HOLED
abf0d2 No.15069715
>>15069492
Don't be, you can open FO4 files with the software from Morrowind with no problem.
3d7e6b No.15069724
>>15069715
>>15069492
I just looked it up in Wikipedia and it says Fallout 4 & Skyrim aren't Gamebryo games. Checkmate, conspiracy theorists.
f16d92 No.15069729
>>15068663
You'd think it wouldn't considering they just said that TES6 isn't even in development right now
Of course this is Bethesda. So yes it will
abf0d2 No.15069753
>>15069724
Technically, you're right, but it's Gamebryo 2.0 that they dubbed "Creation Engine"
c7ae5e No.15069787
>>15067922
…you do realize video games are a believable approximation or reality and not a full-on simulator, right anon? Do you have any fucking idea what persistent means in the context you're using it in? We usually call those "memory leaks" or "areas in need of optimization". Most players would never, ever know the difference between a complete, true simulation and an approximated system.
Not to even mention the cost of developing a game engine. All over again. From scratch. Why bother?
where is your AGDG project, Mr. Critic?
3d7a85 No.15069799
abf0d2 No.15069832
>>15069787
>Most players would never, ever know the difference between a complete, true simulation and an approximated system.
t. someone who has never played the masterpiece that is
DORF FORT
c7ae5e No.15069854
>>15069799
I'm good, fam, ty. You anon are too easy to trigger these days. So sensitive!
>>15069832
I hedged with "most" for a reason. I know my fellow sim autists are out there. The flight sim crowd also gets a pass from me.
55b5ae No.15071316
>>15068301
Degenerates like you belong on a cross!
55b5ae No.15071326
>>15068891
Provide evidence for this "jew and fag" nepotism.
fe6fe5 No.15071353
I didn't really think they were making it with Gameyworks.
The absolute madmen.
84ff4d No.15071529
>>15069724
On a technical level they aren't. However creation IS made off gamebryo and has a lot of calls. It's a simple thing in the industry; why reinvent the wheel when you can just improve what you have?
Halo 2 used code from marathon to handle mathematics calculations, this is by Bungie's own admittance too. And again it's stuff handling maths so no need to rework a handler that works right?
759cea No.15071736
>>15071529
>why reinvent the wheel when you can just improve what you have?
Yeah. Unfortunately, Bethesda tends to break the wheel in a dozen place every time they try to improve it, while simultaneously ignoring blatant problem areas the wheel has had for a while.
84ff4d No.15071778
>>15071736
It's more like Bethesda has a wheel with a small puncture in it and it slowly leaks air, then someone decides to fix it they should cram a nail in the hole to slow it down
3f6c17 No.15072098
>>15068047
I took a class in community college with PUR. She seemed nice enough, but even back then, like 10 years ago, she was desperately trying to cozy up to the TGWTG crowd and pick out a niche she could hog to herself as her "thing". She's a desperate wannabe e-whore.
483877 No.15072246
>>15068521
she's working at DC now.
b10744 No.15072286
>>15072246
>Safe Sex
>a world where sexual pleasure is monitored, regulated and policed by the government.
Lefties do realize this dystopian future is the world they're creating, right?
483877 No.15072324
>>15072286
the real question is how did she get to this position without having any experience in comic books or showing any interest in comic books until after it was announced she would be doing this rather than the hundreds of people who are more qualified and have been in the comic book industry for years.
how many dicks does it take to suck to get any job you want?
6f66b9 No.15072326
05be25 No.15072339
>>15072246
>zoe quinn wrote a book titled 'crash override'
bitch messes with the best, she dies like the rest.
1ee107 No.15072372
>>15072314
>If you have never programmed an entire game on your own, go sit in the corner and shut the fuck up.
<but
>:^)
oh, ok
6f66b9 No.15072469
>>15072314
>If you have never programmed an entire game on your own, go sit in the corner and shut the fuck up.
The goto response of the rabid fanboy.
<YOU CANT PROGRAM A GAME SO YOU CANT CALL THE DEVELOPERS INCOMPETENT.
0069c5 No.15072538
You would think now that Bethesda owns id they would just use id Tech engine or something instead. Sure old mods wouldn't be compatible with it, but isn't part of id Tech's legacy the fact that it popularized mods? What's so fucking taboo about allowing mod support in other games like NuDoom or NuPrey? You know, besides the obvious creation club, Denuvo, and snapmap shekel schemes
73acb6 No.15072562
>>15067922
>"This engine has been around since morrowind"
Are we talking about Gamebryo or Creation?
5be297 No.15072580
>>15068687
Her dad's a Hell's Angel. She's an alt righter if anything.
39a219 No.15072609
>>15067922
>making of documentary a game that isn't even released yet
Damn, first NoClip had fucking a Zoe Quin interview, now they make ads for upcoming Bethesda games. Fuck Danny, that Celtic cocksucker.
>>15068521
>game
It was made in fucking Twine along with a co-writer. She's only famous for two things: sucking off journos and sabotaging some shitty gamejam reality tv show. A manufactured social media celebrity.
d2a336 No.15072698
>>15068037
yep, that's when I quit watching their shit and never looked back. back when they invited Harvey Smith it was unwatchable
3d2965 No.15072773
>>15072324
she didn't even have to suck a dick, DC gave her a book because they knew it would get every anti-sjw/gamergater type to cover their Vertigo relaunch. For that amount of free advertising, the cost of six issues of a throwaway comic is nothing
1e0c1b No.15073352
>>15072580
>Her dad's a Hell's Angel.
I thought Hell's Angels were largely leftists, just not Progressives. I mean, they grew out of Height-Ashbury along with the Grateful Dead, Hippies, and were a maypole for folk like Ken Kesey and Hunter Thompson. At least, until they started beating the shit out of anti-Vietnam war protestors.
367185 No.15073372
>>15073352
They are, that anon is very confused. They're just the 'macho' kind like boomer neocons who don't even realize they're on the left side of the false dichotomy even when you spell it out for them.
20df5e No.15073379
>>15072286
>Lefties.
>Realizing.
You need to have a brain for that.
c8f8cf No.15073485
>>15072773
Marketing Fag here, negative publicity only works if you have a good product that is being given attention. In short the negative attention is merely getting the attention of your demographic. If you don't have a demographic and your product is shit you enter negative association territory and tank the rest of your sales.
ecf3ce No.15073600
>>15072709
what happened to the steam group?
3d7a85 No.15073663
>>15073600
The marketers who made it for demoralization purposes stopped being paid to maintain it.
1a37bf No.15074268
<new creatures look nice
<West Virginia as a location is far better designed than shitty fallout 4's boston
>no offline
>no mods
>only payed bethesda content
>probably will have tons of dlcs and "creation club" addons
>netcode is done by people who worked on quake champions, worst multiplayer experience i ever endured
>buggy morrowind engine will constantly cause desynchronisation of players
>players will build impossible structures finding ways to crash entire servers
>people will pay for that and eat it up
>fallout 4 gameplay that is as dull as polishing a turd, just now without user polishing
af8703 No.15074279
>>15072286
What they'll never realize is that Shimonetta did this better than they ever could.
>>15072709
So many people in another thread posting their steam hours have this fucking game. You are posting on the same board as these fucking people.
a4c2af No.15074298
>>15067922
Is that Danny "The Celtic Cuck" O'Dwyer?
233beb No.15074401
>>15072469
I literally just called them incompetent myself you god damn idiot. Learn to read dipshit.
618823 No.15084189
>>15069787
I'm working on it right now fag. I'm just pouring all of my resources into a tool rn and I'm going to shill it on the unity asset store when I'm done with it. Hopefully I will finally get some funds to get some decent art assets.
618823 No.15084221
>>15074268
Honestly when I first saw the trailer I was amazed at the creatures and the map.
So much fucking better than FO4 like I don't understand why FO4 looks so uninspired compared to this but they literally ripped out the RPG of the game so I am not at all interested in it.
Also I believe they said it would have modding post launch, but why does that matter when they will shill Creation Club anyway.
Original paid mods was 100x better than Creation Club. All they needed to do was make it a 50/50 split with the creator and make an approval system. Could you imagine how much faster DLC sized/New game sized mods would be developed if they went with a system like this.
5ac699 No.15084384
>>15067922
>Beth
>MMO
>Fallout
No thanks.
d4e17f No.15084819
>>15067922
>I understand the game better than the devs
k
277e0e No.15084826
It was tied to Atlas to be as fucking optimized as possible during the early days, its still very efficient for huge fucking worlds Bethesda creates, all that detail and interactivity
If they can move beyond and make the engine better… well its atleast one good thing that comes out of this, if its used as base for future titles
000000 No.15084891
>that Obsidian rimjob
-→>>/go fuck yourself, rpgcodex tranny/
c6635d No.15086303
>>15067922
Greentext your shit properly.
10c488 No.15086358
>>15068503
Tbh it's only an issue if you give a shit about this guaranteed trash pile in the first place
037fe7 No.15086387
>Noclip reveals how shitty Bethesda's engine really is
Am I the only one who was expecting to see a vid showing Bethesda's bad level design with the usage of the noclip/ghost/tcl debug command instead of some e-celeb shit?
3d7a85 No.15086420
>>15086387
Pretty disappointed myself yeah. There's always those chairs and the people trains though.
b68d18 No.15086766
>>15067922
>Bethesda really just needs to outsource their IP's to Obsidian already.
t. retard
eb38b8 No.15086872
>>15072246
>illegal alien demons invade Arizona
>feminist witches fight the patriarchy
>mulatto takes down the KKK
>comic about strong womyn written by the whore who started GG
>another comic about a strong womyn
>Lesbians scissor to fight the patriarchy
>arab Jesus gets lessons from a superhero that God loves more than Jesus
3d4cc2 No.15087302
>>15086387
>Am I the only one
Fuck off reddit.
da122e No.15087744
851079 No.15097993
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a66842 No.15100483
>>15072580
So fucking what.
A prominent German traitor Muslim convert, has a HA dad.
The Hells Angel MC here are overrun with turk-roaches and the like.
This Bitch is as (((toxic))) as it gets.
5ac699 No.15101124
>>15098033
Protip if you say 'math' you sound like a retarded child to everyone else in the world.
eb4f9f No.15101302
>>15072246
Holy shit it's gonna bomb so hard, I hope that whore somehow gets sued for losing them money
26274d No.15101335
>>15101124
>If you say x you sound like a retarded child to everyone else in the world.
>Protip
The irony.
303f97 No.15101359
>F4 was the most stable game bethesda has put out
>"fuck that, they should make a completely new engine"
>a coding team that is as lazy as bethesda should make a new egine
Do people actually think through what they say?
303f97 No.15101374
>>15101124
Protip: if you say "maths", you sound like a retarded child to everyone who matters in the world.
26274d No.15101401
>>15101359
That's the thing though. It's a question of if Bethesda even has the chops to be a real developer anymore. If they can't innovate and come up with a new engine to unfuck their shit, then they'll eventually stagnate and fade into obscurity as they get passed up by someone who will.
cac09f No.15101847
>>15072246
>they relaunch Vertigo
>with this garbage
18e341 No.15102036
>>15101401
>innovate
Innovation is dead, "huge" open world games have to be AAA by nature. They require immense amount of time and resources that a few autists don't have. Innovation means risk, which no large companies like. Unless by innovation you're thinking of just something that's slightly more well built.
757e42 No.15102362
>>15101302
Both DC and Marvel spent years with SJWs loosing them money; this world ain't kind enough to have any negative backlash for SJWs with bad sells unless they pull shit on the level of "Captain America is and always was a Nazi".
8ba32c No.15105427
>>15067922
>"…The game doesn't load except around one player"
>if this were true NPC/Items in TES/Fallout wouldn't be persistent and you couldn't just drop an item on the ground and pick it up later, which you can do.
Things don't need to be in active memory to be persistent.
851079 No.15117795
>>15102036
Pretty much this.
28b012 No.15117825
>>15071529
>Halo 2 used code from marathon to handle mathematics calculations
yes, well, they were reusing good code, because marathon was a high quality engine for its time. bethesda's engine has never been high quality. this is not a complex concept for you to understand, dipshit
da122e No.15122472
>>15122466
You bumped this thread for this bullshit?
acb768 No.15122478
>>15122472
>surprised that /v/ users are retarded
3f6c17 No.15122523
>>15122466
Good god, I hope this is just exquisitely crafted b8.
aa69a8 No.15122662
>Nothing was developed with multiple players in mind
That's why there's still no real multiplayer for STALKER.
81e809 No.15122774
>>15072324
Every aspect of the entertainment industry (Life) is about who you know. Nothing else matters.