127fd6 No.15053230
New stuff
Your civilization will send out groups to found sites near prosperous fortresses
Existing sites near prosperous fortresses will associate themselves to those fortresses
Added ability to take over sites and install administrators
Can view your new holdings from the 'c' screen
Can send workers off-site and send out messengers to request their return
Mulling over long-term memories can lead to shifts in intellectual values and personality changes
Major bug fixes
Fixed hauling route crash
Fixed problem causing county stage to be skipped in noble elevation
Stopped all visiting barons from being elevated along with your baron
Changed horror calculation from seeing a dead body
Stopped similar memories close in time from taking all the memory space
Stopped stuttering lag from repeated vegetation connectivity checks
Other bug fixes/tweaks
Camping refugees will be awake during the day now
ba5ed9 No.15053244
Too late, I found Factorio, and it's more immediately and long term fun
5a036b No.15053436
Okay, but can you forge a multicultural empire of elves, dwarves, goblins and humans yet, while being peaceful and loving example of tolerance and gay pride in a fantasy world?
6a50db No.15053456
>>15053436
No, you'll need a game with less realistic mechanics for multiculturalism to work.
5a036b No.15053482
>>15053456
>Dwarf Fortress
>realistic
Enjoy your kenshi-style hp limb system before Toady One is a no-fun allowed fag who keeps on nerfing all of the fun enemies.
746514 No.15053488
>>15053230
So when is the version that isn't a unlearnable clusterfuck coming out? Never? Then fuck off.
This is coming from a guy who plays simulators on the regular. There is a difference between a difficult to learn game and the fucking mess that is dwarf fortress.
442a5c No.15053495
>an update
Oh neat, I-
>game is still an autistic mess of squiggles and bullshit
No thanks.
127fd6 No.15053501
>>15053488
>>15053495
It must suck to be stupid.
746514 No.15053507
>>15053501
It must suck to have autism.
442a5c No.15053513
>>15053507
Or to like a game that's a shittier version of Rimworld.
127fd6 No.15053514
>>15053507
No I just read the wiki.
746514 No.15053521
>>15053514
Nigga the fact that there is a wiki doesn't unfuck the game. It's a mess.
5a036b No.15053522
>>15053488
>Wah, I can't learn hotkeys
You must suck at rts then. Git gud.
1d6b69 No.15053523
>Giving away your (You)s to such shitty bait
Step it up.
ba5ed9 No.15053527
>>15053521
It really needs a UI update and QOL improvements
05e579 No.15053531
>>15053230
Did they add proper mouse support or a UI you can understand without autism yet?
7ae44e No.15053532
>>15053488
War Thunder isn't a simulator anon.
127fd6 No.15053533
>>15053521
>I literally can't look at the side of the screen and see which key I need to press to do something and then remember which key that was
746514 No.15053548
>>15053533
>>15053522
Memorize that clusterfuck?
You have autism
5a036b No.15053556
>>15053548
You have redditism.
127fd6 No.15053563
>>15053548
>more than 10 options listed in a row is a clusterfuck
You got brain damage buddy? I guess having a brain looks like autism to the mentally retarded.
746514 No.15053595
>>15053556
>>15053563
So how much of your neet time have you wasted? Are you proud for having the autisitc patience to learn some esoteric game mr. pro gamer?
5a036b No.15053608
>>15053595
I bet you think aurora is hard to learn how to play too.
746514 No.15053628
>>15053608
>look at me stronk video game player
>i play all the games better than you
>even the super duper hard ones
f5ae0e No.15053632
>>15053507
It must suck to not know that everyone on here is autistic in some way.
127fd6 No.15053639
>>15053595
>can't remember things
>can't read a wiki
>having patience is somehow autistic
Anon did you ever consider that you're just not that bright?
5a036b No.15053643
>>15053628
Can you even play dominions, newfag?
746514 No.15053668
>>15053643
>>15053639
Seriously though. How can you be proud of this. It's like bragging about having a 2 inch cock. I'm out. Enjoy bragging in your circlejerk. It's the closest you'll ever come to having sex.
954c7c No.15053673
5a036b No.15053684
>>15053668
Okay, have fun in reddit, brainlet.
127fd6 No.15053691
>>15053668
You're the one who's proud of being an idiot.
127fd6 No.15053726
I like how this thread probably would have gone nowhere had it not been for butthurt people jumping in only to complain about dwarf fortress.
5a036b No.15053743
>>15053726
Shitposting brings us all closer together.
daab61 No.15053763
But can I play masterwork mod on this version?
7ae44e No.15053766
>>15053726
That's every dorf fort and rimworld thread.
b8ac7f No.15053777
>>15053766
Why is he biting a guy's knee?
127fd6 No.15053783
5a036b No.15053786
>>15053766
I'm still mostly asshurt about him putting in hp on limbs to nerf undead and husks, so now the combat is kenshi style rather than the unique 'muh blood and organ damage' fun shit it was before.
127fd6 No.15053808
>>15053786
When was it when he changed that?
095cd7 No.15053818
So the game is playable now? The horror memories were implemented terribly. It's nice that they're fixed.
5a036b No.15053833
>>15053808
https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/2ktz9m/dev_log_today_was_pulping_oriented/
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Material_science#Pulping
Around 2014 (also around the time that gay dwarves and whatnot started seeping in). It was in response to how op undead and husks were and I stopped playing around this point because the game was already too easy and I absolutely loved the crazy fucking shenanigans that the necromancy would inflict with near unkillable undead.
Now it just feels like each update that the game either puts in boring shit like 'muh elven dancers' or nerfs the fun shit to fight.
127fd6 No.15053836
>>15053818
What do you mean by playable?
127fd6 No.15053877
>>15053833
Ah yeah. Well at least he will be adding magic next. Although its still probably a year off.
5a036b No.15053905
>>15053877
Magic will be pretty rad. Especially if it allows hostile mages to get past the usual deathtrap bullshit or other shenanigans. But I still want the legions of angry fingernails back.
f5ae0e No.15053924
>>15053833
>directly linking to Reddit
f16120 No.15053952
>>15053482
Ya blew it. Keep your shitposts one note or better than who you are replying to. Back in the shallow end.
d8da7b No.15053979
>>15053608
It isn't hard, but you need to have some degree of autism to enjoy it.
>>15053766
>That's every dorf fort and rimworld thread.
No shit.
5a036b No.15053985
33c6ed No.15054086
d+h,3x3, esc, d, 8x3,d+h,esc,d,8x3,esc d=h Depending on the amount of soil do this until you get a stone layer.
d+d 12x12 at end of entrance. Esc, b+D, put trade depot where aesthetically pleasing. You know have an underground trade depot.
d+d 2x6, d+j,2x2 or 4x4 depending on preference. D+x,4x4 however deep you want to dig down.
d+d 2x20, then to the right and left of the hall, d+d 1x3 or 2x3 for either decent rooms or commie lines.
On a lower level d+d 2x10, to right d+d 12x12, b+w+m at a corner, esc,p+s, 8x8
To the left 12x12, b+w+c,p+w 8x8.
Go back to trade depot near your stairs are make an additional hall using d+d, 2x2, d+u, 2x2, up a z level at same spot d+j, 2x2, then d+d 2x4, then 10x20.
b+p, 5x5, esc, q, then designate which plants to grow.
Go to the masonry, q+b+d, do this 10 times. Then q+b+f, another 10 times.
Carpenter q+b+b, 10 times, q+b+v keep this on repeat for a while with r.
Go to the surface, hit d+t, 20x20.
Back to rooms b+d, at all rooms entrances, b+b at the corner or end of the room, b+f in between the bed and entrance if commie lines.
On the same floor go to the north side of the stairs d+d, 2x10, then d+d, 10x10.
Back at mason, q+b+c 10x, q+b+t10x
at new room, b+c, b+t, next to each other.
At any side of the room, d+d,2x2,then 14x4, esc, b+w+z at end of long end of room, b+w+l at other end, p+f 4x4,p+u 4x4, q, over the furniture stockpile, hit u, then enter on barrels.
At any hall, d+d 4x4, x2. b+t, b+c.
Hit n designate a dwarf as Bookkeeper and another manager.
q on the chairs, select bookkeeper on one and vice versa.
u+r, schedule 100 barrels, 20 doors, 20 thrones, 20 tables, and 100 bins.
d+d, 10x10 room anywhere, at masonry q+b+r, b+w, in middle of room.
m, designate troops for military, use Miggers to find hopefully someone with combat training.
q+a,(your military squad)
o+t on their name to make them actively train.
There you now how a decent beginner fort. Once you become proficient you can remember the hotkeys even months of hiatus.
a94664 No.15054092
>>15053230
>Mulling over long-term memories can lead to shifts in intellectual values and personality changes
So eventually they'll all be murderous bastards?
>>15053436
Yes.
6a50db No.15054639
>>15053766
Unfortunately, niggers have been thoroughly conditioned into the bitching=gibs mindset. The constant stream of positive reinforcement (and the existence of smartphones that are so simple that even they can operate them) ensure that anything that requires a three-digit IQ will attract a crowd of bitching niggers.
5822bd No.15054645
Look at all these faggots bragging about their e-peen size for playing dwarf gangbang 5.
>mfw
33df9a No.15054654
>>15053436
Blow your fucking brains out.
>>15053522
>durr i no want game be good hurr
>>>/suicide/
2c151d No.15054664
>>15053522
Look at this loser puffing himself up. You real good at rts nigga. Yeahhhhhhhhh.
43e469 No.15054723
>>15053548
>d=dig
>b=build
>clusterfuck
68aa27 No.15054769
Is the glitch where raiding parties never return fixed?
ecf3bf No.15054784
>>15053595
It took like an hour of learning to fully memorize the relevant hotkeys.
It helps if you want to learn it.
64e8b6 No.15054819
>>15053595
But when you learn it and it gets into your head, playing dwarf fortress becomes just as natural as compiling gentoo linux.
2c151d No.15054841
>>15054784
>It helps if you want to learn it.
>It helps if you have no life.
ecf3bf No.15054850
>>15054841
>No life
Where do you think we are?
350141 No.15054862
>>15053595
>esoteric
holy shit it takes like 2 hours to get the hang of how fucking braindead are you
c26a51 No.15054890
>>15054850
>>15054862
Don't even bother responding to them. It just encourages more people to come in to shitpost about it; Dorf threads used to be the comfiest god damn things but then the game got known for being "complex" or whatever when it's honestly not that hard to learn, and it drew in a lot of people who legit think people only play it to feel proud about themselves for learning something complex. God damn, I learned everything by playing little bits and reading the wiki over the course of three days and now I've been playing it fine ever since.
Regardless arguing about it is pointless. I'd rather discuss the game and shit; don't give them their (you)'s and just go on talking about the game. This isn't even a Dorf Fort thread at the moment it's just a thread about the same shit that plagues every Dorf thread.
ecf3bf No.15054904
c26a51 No.15054905
Guys, I had a fucking gay idea. I want to start a fortress and name all of my dorfs after various vidya characters; it'd be like 8chanmania but on some kind of batshit crack because characters would be starving, getting married to each other and giving birth, killing each other and going insane, turning into werewolves, and having autistic friendships with other characters to the point where it all becomes a god damn mess of a procedurally generated fanfiction. Once the magic update comes out this is going to be even better because we'll be able to make the worlds so magical that all life and lore is randomly generated and we'll have god damn weird shit happening mixed in with it all.
I think this could potentially make for a fun thread with screencaps of various shit that happens.
5ab74c No.15054914
How the fuck do you update Dwarf Therapist?
I've downloaded the ini files into data\memory_layouts\<os> but the program crashes when connecting to DF.
I've joined a normalfag DF server but they're fucking normalfags worried not talking about the game.
c26a51 No.15054915
>>15054769
Yeah it got fixed a while ago, they also added the idea to destroy entire places and kill everyone instead of just stealing something. Seems pretty fun honestly.
c26a51 No.15054931
>>15054914
Shit man, I haven't updated it before. I just used the version that came with the LNP at first before I ended up ditching the LNP entirely and all of the plug-ins that came with it. Can't you just download the newest version and hook that up, or is it strictly an .ini file update thing? I'm not very familiar with it.
ecf3bf No.15054932
>>15054905
Ye' that sounds like a good idea for FUN.
Just gotta narrate what the fug happens as the event logs are posted.
5ab74c No.15054940
>>15054931
Usually you were able to download the memory layouts for the new version and drop them into the appropiate folders, then run the game before the "main" therapist branch got updated and released again.
But I did the same stuff as what I've been doing a couple of patches already and the program crashes.
c26a51 No.15054942
>>15054932
Yeah, to make up for the lack of magical worlds with crazy shit at the moment I think settling in a really bizarre location could make things entertaining. I'm honestly not too skilled at DF though and my first step right now is to properly fight off a goblin invasion on my steps to creating a sustainable fortress. Once that hits, I think I'll be ready, and hell, the magic update comes out in a year or two so it's not like I don't have time or anything. I think it'd still be fun to do sooner though; I can imagine the shitstorm when certain characters get married and/or pregnant.
090e4a No.15054972
>>15054905
>over the course of three days
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c26a51 No.15054979
>>15054972
Yeah I was lazy about it. I don't think it actually took three days for me to actually learn how to play, but I just recall playing DF for bits at a time over those days.
952581 No.15055019
>>15053595
>>15053548
>>15053488
Bruh, the game is fucking easy.
It's fucking easy. Let me break this down for you. First of all, all the controls are on display at all times for anything you can access. I've never touched adventurer mode, so I can't speak for that, but in Fortress Mode, anything you can do is literally on the screen. And there's only three things you need to concern yourself with at first.
HOUSE YOUR DWARVES
Open the [d]esignations menu. You use this for about half your interactions with your dwarves. In this case, you want to [d]ig out the side of a mountain. Give yourself a big area, then a bunch of smaller ones attatched to a long hallway. Designate again, using [t]rees and then highlight a bunch of the Os you see outside for wood.
Once you have space, [b]uild (Here's another quarter of what you'll usually be using, the build menu, where you construct things.) a few [w]orkshops. Carpenter, mason, and craftsdwarf are most important right now. Once you set them up, use [q]uery (The last quarter of how you interact with dorfs) to make beds by hovering over the carpenter's workshop.
Figured all that out? Congrats, you've now got an understanding of half the gameplay. Once the beds get made, go back into the [b]uild menu and select the beds, placing them as you like. housing philosophy is sort of beyond me, but you can set up a dorm, whatever.
FEED YOUR DWARVES
Next, find some clay or mud and [b]uild a farm plot. follow the on screen instructions to make it bigger, but be aware it doesn't need to be enormous starting out. Set it for plump helmets. Now build a still and a kitchen, and get your craftsman churning out pots. Pots, mind you, not anything else, because they can hold both seeds and drink, and that's important. Once the farm is growning, the still is brewing, you're pretty much set.
MINE AND FORGE
Build three new workshops: a Metalsmith's forge and two furnaces. The furnaces should be a smelter and a wood furnace. If the first fails, it's because the anvil was moved at some point, just redo it and it should work fine. Once these are set up, set up a hallway into a small room. Then, [d]esignate a down stairs.
Wait for it to be done. [>] down to the next z-level and designate an up/down stairs on the same spot. The u/d stairs can then be expanded as far down as you like. Be aware that things lurk in the dark, but miners tend to be very strong and generally handle themselves pretty well.
Once you have mined a fair bit, set up stockpiles (visible on the main screen) for stone, wood, and food, then Bars and Blocks. Instruct the wood furnace to turn wood to charcoal. Once you've a decent supply of charcoal, you can smelt metals (It only lets you do ones you actually have, don't be daunted by the large list) and then work them into… whatever. I suggest chain shirts and boots, myself.
PRO TIPS
This will get you started, but if you're interested in other stuff in the game read the fucking wiki. This is especially useful when you get into trade and nobles and shit.
Stockpiles are customizable and probably one of your greatest tools.
Mine a lot. Mine out apartments before you need them. Mine out whole floors into complexes you might not even use. A skilled miner is comically useful in battle, because of what mining trains physically. Plus, in time you'll use that space.
ba5ed9 No.15055038
>>15055019
Okay but you still spend more time scrolling through the menus than actually doing things. I can see the job I want to assign in the middle of the page on embark. I have to move the secondary selector, not primary(?) and then wait about 4 seconds. Repeat for each dwarf, several times.
Wow.
c26a51 No.15055047
>>15055038
I've never really had a problem with this. I mean, shit, if it's a turn-off I'm sure there are other games you'd enjoy. Like everything else in like, Dwarf Fortress isn't for everybody.
c26a51 No.15055049
127fd6 No.15055051
>>15055038
Why do you have to wait 4 seconds?
090e4a No.15055052
>>15054979
Even one day is too much you fucking autistic moron.
6d21e9 No.15055069
>>15055019
This. Dwarf fortress is so easy.
I learned from my bf in like a day :3
5ab74c No.15055081
>>15055038
Just embark in some fucking shithole away from everything and select "play now" you idiot.
>but I don't know how to play AND I want a custom embark
No you want to get fucked in the ass like the faggot you are.
Once you know the baby shit you then learn how to record macros with ctrl+r, then use ctrl+s to save them and ctrl+p to replay them.
The result is you can cut the tedious shit such as typing "COKE","ANVIL","BITUM" or selecting 6 different types of underground seeds individually.
5ab74c No.15055083
Turns out it was a problem with the memory layouts.
ba5ed9 No.15055084
>>15055051
For it to scroll to the profession I want so I can assign initial skill points. I can't use page up/dn because it takes it to the second or third page, whoch isn't what I want.
Or how about stockpile settings? It also has a primary selector, but no secondary one. Meanwhile the enable/forbid category buttons aren't really used elsewhere, and you have THREE different pairs of buttons, when a "toggle column" would have sufficed.
My point is, the game is over ten, almost 15 years old. The interface is cobbled together from things that worked then. It needs to be simplified and made consistent. And no this isnt a "hurr its too hard" difficult. Its actively user unfriendly. Its fine if youre comfortable with it, but i stopped caring about new versions because i stopped wanting to trudge through a new set of inconsistent menus. If i play again, itll probably be 40d.
ecf3bf No.15055092
>>15055052
C'mon anon, you can't say you've played >Godhand
>Devil May Cry 1/2/3/4
>Fighting games
And then say
<one day is too much
The only difference between that sort of game and dwarf fortress is the path of memorization.
Dwarf fortress is heavily long-term memorization for the first hour, then the rest becomes muscle memorization as to what buttons to press.
Godhand, Devil May Cry, and Fighting games may take only 10 minutes to memorize the entire control scheme since, you know, they have up to six buttons and the joystick compared to dwarf fortress which uses nearly the entire keyboard, but take fugging weeks of practice to "git gud" at.
Also, evil tundra fortresses are back in comission now that seeing a tooth doesn't cause the dwarf to contemplate suicide.
ba5ed9 No.15055093
>>15055081
>using macros
>keybinds for keybinds
Nah. This is what I mean. The menus are cumbersome and this shouldn't even be necessary
6d21e9 No.15055094
>>15055084
>The interface is cobbled together
No your just stupid
9e9212 No.15055106
This game is stuck in current_year = shit.
127fd6 No.15055117
>>15055084
So your problem is that the menu doesn't scroll fast enough? Also you only have to prepare for an embark once, so that one time is too much for you?
b266ed No.15055139
I like adventure mode as a Roguelike fag but Fortress just doesnt hold me because city manager type games just dont do anything for me
b600cf No.15055148
Can you play this game as humans instead of dorfs?
I really don't to play as filthy non-humans. All non-humans should be flayed alive like the niggers they are.
b600cf No.15055154
>>15053668
At least my dick isn't 1 inch, I can be proud of that.
ca8249 No.15055163
>>15055148
indeed humans are the supreme race i also would like to kill all disgusting non-humans and the more disgusting animals like cat and dogs they simply have no life value and must be killed by my hands
b600cf No.15055164
>>15053833
>Directly linking to Reddit
c8280a No.15055189
>>15053456
What about a multicultural empire of whatever race you're playing as and their kobold fuckslaves
6d21e9 No.15055209
65682b No.15055366
I'm glad that sending out parties is finally useful, but what do you get from sending workers off-site? Do they only gain experience? Do they do meaningful work, and if so, do they bring back goods they made to the fortress? Or is this site claiming stuff just the groundwork for a much more important update?
ef255f No.15055564
I wish I could play it. My working installation is 12 versions back. Installing this game by hand on a system where you don't get everything prepacked and working is nearly impossible as there is zero documentation and if you ask questions on the forum the answer is "just use the lazy".
095cd7 No.15055806
>>15053836
The memory system Toady tried to implement once more but whenever your dwarves saw even a dead body once they'd constabtly break down and cry, not being able to get anything done. Read the patch notes. Seems like this shit is finally fixed.
c1c145 No.15055841
Does this game have a tileset so I don't have to decipher ascii bullshit?
df845f No.15055848
toady is a hack, he can't program and the game will never get a ui
8fb441 No.15055863
>>15053230
>Can send workers off-site and send out messengers to request their return
Penal colonies confirmed?
b5fbfa No.15056101
Dwarf Fortress is casual filter the game
>It's ugly as fuck requiring you to have the most basic bitch ability to install mods, which casuals cannot.
>Interface is full of redherrings and useless shit fucking casuals over hard because they can't immediately identify what the most important shit to do is (dig, grow food, block monsters from coming in).
>The best defense is to literally just wall yourself in underground and never fuck with the surface or caves, which casuals don't do for…. I honestly am at a loss for this one I did this since my first fort.
The funniest thing is once you get the game figured out there's literally nothing to it, but the casuals never get that far because casuals always get scared off if a game doesn't tell them exactly what to do.
3aa135 No.15056112
>>15053533
Ah, the wonders of crossbreeding - retardation is the new norm!
c1ead2 No.15056125
>>15056101
Even if they got that far, doubt they'd know how to make things interesting for themselves and blame the game yet again.
d21625 No.15056128
>>15056101
>It's ugly as fuck
It's not.
>requiring you to have the most basic bitch ability to install mods
The only mod I ever installed was a color pack. And I have easily put hundreds of hours into the game, I just don't know how many exactly.
8fb441 No.15056237
>>15056101
>there's literally nothing to it
This game is an rpg m8. It's a sandbox where you can create magma canons, analog computers, gold minecart death rooms, dog powered baby training rooms, sacrifice wells with a single obsidian spear at the bottom, defense walls that many medieval engineers would masturbate to, minecart miniguns, shark tanks for gobbos, 100z mountain catapults for prisoners, completely water powered defence system that resembles a toilet, no defense Spartan fortress with vampire powered slaves,…
I still find shit to do after 10 years playing on and off.
394e28 No.15056385
>>15053456
You made me laugh.
7ae44e No.15056561
>>15055148
Yes, but you need to add noble positions to them for the fort to function properly but that is as simple as copying and pasting and maybe renaming a few things from -dwarf to -man. Once you do this you will also have discovered the greatest castle building game that exists, especially now that we can actually be a baron and gave fiefdoms.
9bf6cc No.15056629
>>15056237
You forgot werebeast army and magma landmines.
8967d2 No.15057106
Call me when the majority of your population must be tied up with agriculture as is realistic
aede87 No.15057116
>>15055841
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository
As for DF, I'm greatly looking forward to the myth and magic updates. More interesting religion generation for civs sounds great, and I'm really looking forward to the extra worldgen options. If I recall he's going to add a grimdark slider and I can't wait to see all the crazy shit people come up with for that. Gonna take three more fucking years to get there though.
aede87 No.15057119
>>15057106
I too have been waiting for an agriculture (and food in general) overhaul. After he added randomly-generated instruments and songs, I've hoped he could do something similar for food and give us true dwarven cuisine that isn't generic "dwarven syrup roast."
9bf6cc No.15057173
>>15057106
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the food industry. Here's the thing though: have a more realistic food industry would require having a more realistic approach to biome animals and wildlife in general. Hell, most animal breeding is severely nerfed in DF compared to real life. Just imagine an embark where half of the levels have been completely mined out and covered with mud to allow elk birds to graze. The meat generation could support thousands, and that's excluding birdsplosions and aquarium breeding.
8967d2 No.15057200
>>15057173
Perhaps "farm animals" for meat or dairy could be simulated much more simply unless attacked or some shit.
I don't know precisely how I'd like agriculture handled, though.
aede87 No.15057203
>>15057173
I have one complaint about DF's plants: Toady never added more fictional fantasy stuff. He just added every single fruit, crop, and grain the world. You have every variety of apple and pear, a dozen kinds of amaranth. But he never made up his own stuff past his early days. It made the world feel a little watered down in realism, like he used to have a creative vision for the setting but then he just stopped caring and copy-pasted a ton of shit to pad it out.
00e655 No.15057258
>>15056237
You can do all of that in minecraft as well though.
127fd6 No.15057277
>>15057203
plump helmets are real?
eb1394 No.15057286
>>15057277
>past his early days
aede87 No.15057301
>>15057277
Get enough mycologists into Dwarf Fortress and maybe someday they will be.
e85e2b No.15057564
>>15057203
I think it'll get more fantastic once Toady gets to the magic updates.
d21625 No.15058868
>>15057106
Learn your history you brain damaged fuck.
8967d2 No.15059119
>>15058868
https://ourworldindata.org/employment-in-agriculture
So 7-8 out of every ten dwarves should be somehow engaged in food production
1c375d No.15060498
No food production doesn't require much labor in DF.
2 legendary growers and a legendary brewer and cook can feed a fortress. It's heavily dependent on skill level.
Do dorfs still get stuck in the trees all the time? I stopped playing because of that.
6da67d No.15061119
>>15055148
I'm pretty sure mods like Masterwork come with this functionality out of the box, but I've never messed with that myself so I can't speak from experience.
With a little messing around in the raws you can make any race playable in Fort mode, as far as I'm aware.
847c6c No.15061212
048d7b No.15061246
>>15054654
>Me can't type with keys on keyboard Durr
Must be 18+ to post Anon.
bb8960 No.15061256
Another chance to not get into this game!
8fb441 No.15061281
>>15057106
Oh oh, let's hear it from an expert in commercial underground mushroom farming.
894428 No.15061294
>>15053230
LNP 44.11 when?
436c25 No.15061410
>>15060498
Don't forget to use stepladders, since tree harvesting is what they're for. Or just build a ramp/construct up to the dwarf.
7ae44e No.15061429
>>15061410
Chop it down, it's what the dorf deserves for getting stuck.
65682b No.15061462
>>15061410
Most of the time I find I don't even need ladders. They almost always climb down right after I get the warning from DFHack. Maybe it helps them path down, I don't know. I should probably still use them, though.
8fb441 No.15061562
>>15061410
>picking fruit
What are you? An elf? You chop dem fuckers down and burn them for potash.
8967d2 No.15061623
>>15061281
>commercial anything in a pre-industrial world
Are you by any chance retarded?
8fb441 No.15061670
>>15061623
>production for commercial export didn't exist up until the industrial revolution
>applying real life to fantasy
You one of those leftypol cucks that chimp out over Aragorn's tax policy?
eb1394 No.15061739
>>15061670
Up until very recently, entrepreneurs plied their trade only in the spaces they could scrabble between the feet of nobility just like in DF
>>15053488
>>15061723
While the thoughtlessly slapped together UI honestly might be commendable on the basis of keeping normalfags away from the game, I've often wondered why Toady doesn't just make a full API for frontends, completely abandon working on that part himself, and focus on the deep design elements he clearly enjoys much more.
8fb441 No.15061818
>>15061739
>Up until very recently, entrepreneurs plied their trade only in the spaces they could scrabble between the feet of nobility
Wrong. The Roman Empire had trade networks with near industrial production levels(as much as non-industrial economy can manage) managed by trade companies and appointed governors.
And they didn't "scrabble" for spaces in any era. The higher castes profited from the lower/middle ones as much as the latter did from the higher and provided benefits to each other. When that stopped on a larger scale, the civilization collapsed.
>just like in DF
It's a fantasy game about beings that aren't even human and live off alcohol ffs. What do you even know of dorf society and how can you even apply your cancerous cult to it?
>thoughtlessly slapped together UI
The UI is a breeze when you get your muscle memory going. I don't even want it to be fixed. Or mouse control. The main problem with the game is performance due to lol no multi-threading.
>I've often wondered why Toady doesn't just make a full API for frontends, completely abandon working on that part himself, and focus on the deep design elements he clearly enjoys much more.
As he said it himself many times. It's his one man game and he wants to make it like he wants it.
68461f No.15061828
>>15061818
>It's his one man game and he wants to make it like he wants it
Then why does he allow custom tilesets if he doesn't want other people to touch it?
8f9352 No.15061853
>>15053548
YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO MEMORIZE 6 OPTIONS MAX, IF NOT LESS
THE REST IS GIVEN TO YOU ON THE FUCKING SCREEN OR YOU CAN JUST LOOK IT UP THE MOMENT YOU NEED IT
IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD
8f9352 No.15061868
>>15055148
You can play humans in adventure mode and genocide other races.
8f9352 No.15061883
Do you guys think Toady will add the option to disable magic in your world once it is added in an update? I would want to be able to have both low-fantasy and high-fantasy generated worlds.
eb1394 No.15061887
>>15061818
>managed by trade companies and appointed governors
>middle […] caste
Trade was largely executed through organs of the state, arranged into villas and plantations, under the personage of great houses. Merchants, explorers, and adventurers had basically no standing as anything other than vassals of some sovereign or patron, with truly independent specimens extremely rare.
>performance due to lol no multi-threading
The main performance issue is that the game is in pre-alpha, with essentially every low-level system under constant ground-up redesign. The same is true of any other software before it hits alpha, but unlike DF, most games have relatively simple core systems, with the majority of devtime going into graphics/sound/networking/IO/etc. Just as long as performance is barely good enough to test his work, I doubt it's enough of a priority to freeze design even temporarily to nip low-hanging optimizations.
>he wants to make it like he wants it
Has he ever said he cares at all about the UI at this point?
7ae44e No.15061964
>>15061883
Probably through advanced world generation.
8fb441 No.15062077
>>15061828
Lipstick is not a major part of the game and as with other games the easiest to apply.
>>15061887
>Trade was largely executed through organs of the state
You can't project methods of modern bureaucracy on historical examples that in reality had no comparable control over the economy in the form of governmental specialization(policies) and modern communication technology. The most that the Consuls and Emperors could do is determine the coinage purity and the grain dole. Everything else was basically ancapistan since there were no modern forms of control. One of the reasons why Ceasar crossed the Rubicon is because that ancapistan pushed Roman farmers out of their land with cheaper slaves.
Even when the State wanted to control the economy through price controls due to the worthless currency, ancapistan took over in the form of black market. Which doesn't pay taxes.
>Merchants, explorers, and adventurers had basically no standing as anything other than vassals of some sovereign or patron, with truly independent specimens extremely rare
>vassals
Vassals were landed men that provided arms to their lords. You're probably thinking of serfs and you'd be still wrong since merchants were free men and could move.
>no standing
And who lent the money for those costly wars? You must at least have some standing that you're even approached for a loan and then not get fucked over.
>with truly independent specimens extremely rare
Again, these manners of controls were developed in the 19. century with modern technology. To assume the same complexity of governance to pre-industrial societies has no connection to reality.
>The main performance issue is that the game is in pre-alpha
And it will remain there long after Toady dies and gets passed on to the next Chosen One. I view it as a grace of God that Toady allowed this increasingly stronger ray to shine upon us.
>nip low-hanging optimizations.
>low-hanging
Running a fort past 120 dorfs is a pretty high priority for me. But who knows what Toady and his autistic brain thinks.
>Has he ever said he cares at all about the UI at this point?
It will be one of the last things fixed.
a5864e No.15062166
>>15061562
Anon, fruits are just mugs of wine waiting to happen. There's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
>>15061883
From what I recall of his interviews, he's going to have sliders for things like that. He mentioned something like a grimdark slider (that's just what I'm calling it) that adjusts how dark and grim the world will generate, though I don't know how exactly that will change things; he also said there'll be a magic slider that adjusts how much magical fluff is in the world, so you can have low fantasy, extremely low fantasy, or crank it the fuck up so that everything is so fucking magical it starts randomly generating new magical shit.
If he delivers on these promises you should have exactly what you want.
a5864e No.15062274
>>15062243
Sounds like the goddess of marriage.
f46a56 No.15062320
>>15055019
> so I can't speak for that,
Getting out of a pool of water in adventure mode is unintuitive and even if the controls do show some things wrestling has so many options it's a headache sometimes.
eb1394 No.15062727
>>15062077
>The most that the Consuls and Emperors could do is determine the coinage purity and the grain dole.
>ancapistan took over in the form of black market.
>ancapistan pushed Roman farmers out of their land with cheaper slaves
>And who lent the money for those costly wars?
The senators, the great landowners, and the bankers were all the same people. While Rome's unity and strong order distinguished it from later periods, the difference between Rome and later feudal Europe was small at the level of individual farms and such, which were primarily tended by masses of slaves, even those owned by "humbler" citizens such as retired legionaries, rather than great plantation owners.
>One of the reasons why Ceasar crossed the Rubicon
The only reason he crossed the Rubicon was to conquer Rome, destroy the Republic, and create the Empire.
>Vassals were landed men that provided arms to their lords.
In addition to other economic and social obligations, in return for said land.
>You're probably thinking of serfs
Slaves fulfilled that function until well after the dissolution of Rome
>And it will remain there long after Toady dies and gets passed on to the next Chosen One.
Fuck you, base feature completion c. 2030, then performance/debug/UI tuning. DF is more of a Sistine Chapel ceiling than an entire Notre Dame Cathedral.
>It will be one of the last things fixed.
I just thought of a terrifying possible answer to my own question, given the maturity of DF's 3rd-party tools to date: The playerbase might NOT BE AUTISTIC ENOUGH to make a complete, abstracted replacement frontend.
350141 No.15062979
3f9366 No.15063035
>>15061723
>Most of the keybinds you need are either present on the starting screen, or one step away
>Book thicker than it is wide
I, sorry, what? Seriously, the most complicated things in the game (Nobles, Military) are midgame at earliest, and not all that hard to learn. And the game even scales difficulty to your skill level: lower skill level with the game means you'll gain riches and value in your fortress slower, so greater threats take longer to appear.
I'm deeply confused why people find this confusing. I understand it (mostly) and I fully admit to being a brainlet who doesn't understand how to play Crusader Kings 2.
a5864e No.15063052
>>15063035
>I'm deeply confused why people find this confusing. I understand it (mostly) and I fully admit to being a brainlet who doesn't understand how to play Crusader Kings 2.
Same here. If I could learn DF years ago as a teenager back when it being 3D was still relatively new, anyone can learn it.
ba624d No.15063096
I made this mod if anyone wants to check it out
http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13846
20c12b No.15064706
>>15063096
>Yet another Dark Souls conversion
God fucking damn it. You're a twink, aren't you? For some reason twinks are the ones that always do this
I'll check it out later gayboy
a7b643 No.15065114
>>15053230
Daily reminder that Toady ruined DF in 2014 when he added a superficially complex emotion system while nerfing insanity in the process
127fd6 No.15065751
>>15065114
The game isn't even done so you can expect it to be fixed and the ruined over and over until its finished.
b21515 No.15065849
>>15053230
Do you fags want some real gay shit? Here's MILKABLE PURRING MAGGOTS:
#creature_subterranean.txt
################################################################
[CREATURE:MAGGOT_PURRING]
[DESCRIPTION:A tiny larva which is prized for its milk.]
[NAME:purring maggot:purring maggots:purring maggot]
[CASTE_NAME:purring maggot:purring maggots:purring maggot]
[CHILD:1][GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:purring larva:purring larvae]
[LITTERSIZE:2:5]
[CREATURE_TILE:'{'][COLOR:7:0:1][ALTTILE:'}']
[PETVALUE:10]
[PET]
[BENIGN]
[NATURAL]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC]
[LARGE_ROAMING]
[BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
[UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:2]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:250:500]
[PREFSTRING:comforting whirs]
[NOBONES]
[BODY:BODY_WITH_HEAD_FLAG:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:HAIR]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:BONE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:HAIR]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:BONE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:EXOSKELETON_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE]
[HAS_NERVES]
[MAXAGE:3:4]
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALK_CRAWL_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:GOO:GOO_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:GOO:LIQUID]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:1000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[CANNOT_JUMP]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[CASTE_NAME:purring maggot:purring maggots:purring maggot]
[FEMALE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILK:MILK_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen dwarven milk]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen dwarven milk]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:dwarven milk]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:dwarven milk]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling dwarven milk]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling dwarven milk]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[MULTIPLY_VALUE:2]
[MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MILK:7500]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CHEESE:CREATURE_CHEESE_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:SOLID:dwarven cheese]
[STATE_ADJ:SOLID:dwarven cheese]
[STATE_NAME:SOLID_POWDER:dwarven cheese powder]
[STATE_ADJ:SOLID_POWDER:dwarven cheese powder]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:melted dwarven cheese]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:melted dwarven cheese]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling dwarven cheese]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling dwarven cheese]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[CASTE:MALE]
[CASTE_NAME:purring maggot:purring maggots:purring maggot]
[MALE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:MILK:MILK_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:frozen dwarven milk]
[STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:frozen dwarven milk]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:dwarven milk]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:dwarven milk]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling dwarven milk]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling dwarven milk]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[MULTIPLY_VALUE:2]
[MILKABLE:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:MILK:7500]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CHEESE:CREATURE_CHEESE_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME:SOLID:dwarven cheese]
[STATE_ADJ:SOLID:dwarven cheese]
[STATE_NAME:SOLID_POWDER:dwarven cheese powder]
[STATE_ADJ:SOLID_POWDER:dwarven cheese powder]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:melted dwarven cheese]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:melted dwarven cheese]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:boiling dwarven cheese]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:boiling dwarven cheese]
[PREFIX:NONE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SKIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:GRAY:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:skin:SINGULAR]
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
[MULTIPLY_VALUE:2]
################################################################
9bf6cc No.15066094
Not even 10 years in and I'm at 16fps. If I disabled children, set visitors to 0, only use stockpiles for perishable food, killed off every animal, set up my industries to only produce the bare minimum to expand, and atom smashed everything that wasn't critical to the fort functioning, I still feel like I'd only buy another 10 years before my FPS dropped below 20. I want to enjoy DF again, but I just can't with this FPS bullshit.
Also, managing stress without The Rapist or DFHack is such a fucking headache. Feels like the setup needed to make sure dwarves aren't constantly stressed due to being away from friends and family would be to have a really solid industry of glassmaking (infinite sand), rock crafting/masonry (infinite obsidian) and bone crafting (infinite bones). Set the whole thing up in a way so that every "non crafter" dwarf would have access to a bunch of workshops that are max level Novice so that they get happy from crafting, but their skills rust down to dabbling and they just keep rotating between the industries to keep themselves happy crafting stuff. And then have every "non military" dwarf that feels the need to fight/martial in squads that train 2 months a year. The most annoying though is that dwarves don't actively seek out to fulfill their social/prayer/entertainment/art/thinking needs even when they have nothing to do. Had a dwarf go from stressed > haggard > depressed and one of her unmet needs was prayer. She was stressed so she'd go in meetings with the mayor every month (which took up most of her time). But she also wanted martial training so I set her up as active marksdwarf with no training orders - aka she shoots at archery targets. But she wants to do crafting so I have her do carpentry. But meeting with the mayor takes so much of her time that can't even feel satisfied from both crafting and martial pursuits, much less all of the other bullshit. And if I ignore crafting and martial stuff, she just recipes poetry all fucking day long instead of prayer in the GOD DAMN FUCKING TEMPLE DEDICATED TO HER GOD 5 FUCKING TILES AWAY FROM WHERE SHE'S DOING POETRY. The whole fort seriously felt like a powder keg, one or two deaths would've caused a tantrum spiral that would've ended the whole thing.
29053b No.15068628
>>15066094
seems very realistic tbh, maybe not working as intended but correct by mistake. most people I've met with unfulfilled religious needs waste their time in taverns instead
b99629 No.15073684
>>15053833
I was listening to a dftalk the other day and it seems toady was planning on making that change from at least 2012.
93bd64 No.15074062
>>15053436
>df
>unlearnable
Your brainlet is showing.
534ea3 No.15081263
No humans
Metal only
Final desination
>>15066094
I also can never get dwarves to dance, sing or whatever the fuck they do in temples let alone go there for any reason than to bury the dead underneath as well, its very annoying. I've never had troubles keeping mood up as you've described though. By the time year 2 ends I have a cook spitting out high quality food, booze, legendary common areas, rooms with mastercraft furniture. The only time I see a tantrum is after dwarves dying in battle or if I cull cats.
c04eea No.15081307
>>15081263
>legendary common areas, rooms with mastercraft furniture
Might be the cause of that, maybe they're too busy oggling floor tiles.
65682b No.15081448
>>15081263
Food needs a serious nerf in some way or maybe multiple ways. With a couple plots rotating different crops, some animals grazing on underground flora (after piercing the first cave layer and sealing it back up), a male-female pair of egg laying animals, and a legendary chef and brewer, I can:
>avoid anybody feeling like shit (unless something terrible happens to the fort, like dozens dying)
>trade barrels of legendary meals that are worth far more than their weight in legendary crafts
>not worry about mining out quarries needed to mass produce goods that I trade away
>make a stockpile of cooked meals so big that my fortress could stop producing and eat until I get bored of it or experience framerate issues, as it never expires
>make my entire food chain untouchable to invaders
Which is why it needs to be hit with a nerf bat so hard that the challenge hits some sort of difficulty floor.
The following may fix this:
>the soil becomes exhausted after so long and needs to be fertilized with potash, animal dung, etc.
>the existing prepared food dishes expire; cooks can also produce preserved meals which never expire, like fruit preserved in honey or vegetables pickled in brine, but are not as tasty as a full meal
>simple numerical methods (grazing rates are increased, crop yields are decreased, food value is decreased, etc.)
c04eea No.15081626
>>15081448
>sealing it back up
c04eea No.15081642
I do like your idea about soil, could lead to some sort of dust bowl spiral if left unchecked.
b975f0 No.15082242
a VIDEO game implies graphics
8967d2 No.15082456
>>15082242
ASCII is a graphical representation of information
127fd6 No.15082925
>>15082242
Zork is a video game.
1fa8e4 No.15083336
>>15055148
Yes you can, and it is actually pretty easy to make happen. I made a fortress populated by hippopotamus humans for fun once, but I forgot how, it has been years since I pulled it off. But it doesn't require any hacking or any addons, it has to do with embarking in an area that has whatever civilized creature you want, incorporating them into your fortress, ditching the dwarves one way or another, and then getting on with it. It may involve leaving the fortress and then re-activating it, possibly after getting rid of all dwarves in leadership positions. I wish that I could remember the proper sequence, but it is not very difficult to pull off, and there are surely guides on the internet to let you know how.
534ea3 No.15083538
>>15055148
>>15083336
I can't remember exactly, but there is a line of code somewhere that specifies the creature token of your civilization. If you do some googling you'll find where it is.
fc4c38 No.15083762
>>15082242
That's why I prefer using "computer game". Because you have to actually think and imagine what's going on instead of being spoonfed everything.
eb1394 No.15084041
>>15082242
Technically, while "videogame" doesn't cover some computer games played without a video display, like classic Adventure games, "computer game" doesn't cover some videogames that didn't use a computer, like early versions of Pong, and some are non-computers without video, like some versions of Simon. As such, only a more pretentious sounding term like "interactive media" or "automated game" encompasses the entire hobby.
On a related note:
>wikipedia a few years ago
>"computer and video game" term for all articles scrubbed
>merged into "video game"
>all the square pegs that don't fit into their round hole (even mechanical games!) stuffed into abandoned "electronic game" article
>of course it was 2007
52e1d1 No.15084057
how the FUCK do you play this game
f4a462 No.15084067
can somebody give me the 3 basic steps to discover everything else? i want the "punch a tree and craft a crafting table" of dwarf fortress
eb1394 No.15084077
f4a462 No.15084399
a5864e No.15084430
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>15084057
If even cringey dumbasses on Youtube can do it, so can you. No one has any excuses.
7ae44e No.15084745
d1d6f9 No.15088716
>>15082925
telltale games arent video games either and thats all zork is
ba5ed9 No.15092607
843e0a No.15094065
>>15063052
anyone can learn klingon too but why the fuck would you want to do that
604be3 No.15094317
>>15084077
What the fuck? This is not even close to what I saw when I tried DF. I recall being in some map screen with vague symbols and no description for anything. I somehow managed to click myself into some tiny square area with someone walking back and forth with no clue what to do or how to control anything. There were some hints at the bottom, but when I pressed the keys it did something completely unexpected and I got lost in some black screen menu(?) that covered everything.
35d80d No.15094337
Hows my fort, anons? Also how do I get fresh water? There are no rivers here and I built a shitty well on top of a pond.
bb7127 No.15094338
>>15094332
>Posts Pre Dyke Danvers.
Anon too soon man. Press F. I don't think I can ever recover from Marvel ruining my first fap.
5f015a No.15094339
>>15081448
I think expiring food is a pain in the ass in every game it's in
Really the rotating crops/fertilizing mechanic is better for your need along with lower yields
5f015a No.15094342
File: 1c47192b84024a7⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 195.86 KB, 771x1042, 771:1042, Carol_Danvers_(Earth-616)_….jpg)
>>15094338
I looked her new form up, and I'm so sorry man
Hopefully they'll return to her old style someday, because what they did is awful
2a7654 No.15094393
>>15094342
>Marvel
>getting less pozzed
c7eafd No.15094535
>>15062727
>DF is more of a Sistine Chapel ceiling than an entire Notre Dame Cathedral.
Atleast with chapels and cathedrals people designed those things to be even viable to build before decorating them. Toady has not done any of that, you have a game with a fuckloads of features, but the game cannot be played because the underlying engineering is completely sub-standard. It's like even more flawed version of Pisa's tower.
0109b7 No.15094651
>>15094337
Chances are one of the cave layers has a giant underground reservoir of water. But that shouldn't be too concerning. All water is good for is cleaning with soap and giving water to the injured. Both require an operational hospital. Just avoid getting too many people hurt, keep the booze flowing, and chalk up getting down to the underground reservoirs as a long term goal along with a hospital.
17bbdd No.15094667
165a66 No.15094696
liberal crime squad is fun tho
5009cc No.15095008
>>15053548
a) prepare cheat-sheet yourself and put it next to your keyboard
b1) download a cheat-sheet and keep it open in another tab
b2) download cheat-sheet and print it out
c) spend 5 seconds to realize that most commands use the first letter of what they actually do and the rest is on screen at all times
>>15094337
Looks comfy.
9c40fd No.15095025
>>15053230
Blessed Toady, i aspire to become a beloved dev like him one day
Magical artifacts when? next year update?
894428 No.15095144
How to you guys set up your water reservoirs?
I'm trying a new setup (pic related) where the main reservoir in the middle fills up the wells via a U-bend, and any overflow in the main reservoir spills into a 2nd reservoir to prevent flooding.
9913a8 No.15095150
>>15053230
My computer can't handle this game. I usually get to year 2-3 before its so fucking slow that it becomes unplayable.
8967d2 No.15095225
Toady seriously needs to revamp rainwater collection. Currently it only collects in ponds that were created on worldgen, so you can't make a collection pond of arbitrary size.and location.
f46a56 No.15095350
>>15054972
>>15055052
4x games take days to learn before you can play comfortably and I don't see you bitching about that.
45b6a4 No.15101722
>Haven't played Door Fortress for a couple months
>hear about new update
>get a hankering for a spankering
>start up Adventure mode for brief shits and giggles
>design Beef McPunch the Elephent man
>dump all stats into combat stats, where they belong
>only striking, dodging, and swimming skills
>get dirty elf followers to watch my back at night
>decide I'm not willing to play a long adventure and just charge towards the nearest dark tower
>run straight in fully intending to die
>forget that dark towers are mostly full of civilian goblins and trolls, but still have some soldiers and a billion beak dogs
>they can't even touch me
>bare minimum damage I could cause is a broken bone
>loyalty cascade happens and all the trolls form cliques and start fighting each other
>sit by doorway and kick the shit out of runaway trolls and goblins
>kick a couple beakdogs, causing their upper bodies to either immediately collapse or explode into gore
>the strike also propels them two spaces and they die as soon as they hit the ground
>climb down a floor hatch
>immediately surrounded by twenty beakdogs
>kick and chase them around, feel like a UFC fighter in a kindergarten
>punch through some more trolls and goblins, some soldiers but mostly civilians
>climb down another staircase
>surrounded by probably two dozen beakdogs in a narrow hallway
>get to work
>after dozen or so, notice the list of enemies isn't any shorter
>kill a dozen more
>and another dozen
>the list stays the same
>regularly decapitate or mortally maim in one strike
>and another dozen
>start drinking
>another dozen
>another dozen
>at this point I started getting bored but I wanted to see what will happen
>another dozen
>another dozen
>at this point I just wanted it to stop
>another dozen
>another dozen
>the list finally starts to shorten
>punch through another couple heads
>last beakdog
>literally bite its head off
>drop the head
>take a look at my psychological profile
>continue drinking
>go to sleep
I felt like I had a nightmare when I woke up, but I couldn't remember it. I don't have any pity for beakdogs, but Lord Almighty it was gruesome. I love this game.
c3d8de No.15101745
>>15101722
That's some Big Boss tier shit anon
31c1f9 No.15102269
>>15053456
three posts until white fear. awesome.
33df9a No.15102289
Is there a newfag guide updated for the newest version? And by guide I mean ‘one click isometric view and also better mouse support’. The only one I can find is several years old.
cb1386 No.15102378
>>15101722
Fucking amazing
ba5ed9 No.15102415
>>15102378
But when an anon posts like that here, it's spam?
35d80d No.15102448
>>15094651
>All water is good for is cleaning with soap and giving water to the injured.
Oh. I thought dorfs drank water. In that case I better start brewing plump helmets.
>>15095008
>Looks comfy.
It's socialist as fuck. All the beds are in one huge room, there's a single big workshop. But I'm fixing tho.
>>15101722
wew
0bb6fc No.15102487
>>15053513
ikr what's the point in making an ASCII clone of rimworld that doesn't even have mouse controls?
799f30 No.15102490
>>15102415
Well you're not a simulation reporting the psychological profile of your adventurer in an inefficient manner.
aede87 No.15103819
>>15095144
Simple but effective, I like it. With my reservoirs I tend to just breach a stream and pour it into a cistern and shutting it off with a floodgate once it fills up. Though I've considered doing what you have there and keep a flowing stream of water through so that it could be used for safe indoors fishing.
>>15102448
>Oh. I thought dorfs drank water. In that case I better start brewing plump helmets.
They do drink water, if they have no booze. They should never not have booze. And be sure to disable cooking plump helmets, cooking them destroys their seeds, brewing doesn't.
d15bc6 No.15104110
>>15103819
They also drink water when they're injured. So there should always be a safe water source.
217fba No.15113758
i want to fuck big titty dwarf women
323d1b No.15113863
>>15094337
>No stairwell
>Single line commie block
>Unconnected farms
>Single tile entrance
>Corpse stockpile level with the main floor with no dual door airlock
>Constructed wall in communal bedroom after what I assume was "oops" digging
>No chairs, tables or any sort of meeting area
Grossly inefficient, insecure and uncomfortable to look at, anon.