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File: c2e68b7a9169be5⋯.jpg (402.23 KB, 1860x1500, 31:25, 1451105533632-0.jpg)

ea05cd No.15049934

Do you prefer looking things up like strats/solutions to puzzles etc. or instead rely entirely on yourself?

bc6746 No.15049985

I try to work things out myself but if frustration outweighs enjoyment too much I'll tend to look up advice online. I'll also sometimes look stuff up just to make sure I don't accidentally screw myself over in the future, like using a vital item that had another purpose down the line, things like that.


703dc5 No.15049996

I like playing games without needing to look things up outside of the game. If a game requires me to look shit up on a wiki then I'll have a hard time getting into it and, in my eyes, it failed to do a proper job as a game.


252092 No.15050004

Every time someone uses that pic as an OP, the thread turns to shit


0eefc1 No.15050009

I try to not get outside help. Usually when I hit enjoyment threshold I just take a break. If I return to one thing and continuously keep not enjoying it, I just look up solution or drop it entirely.


32ec46 No.15050013

>>15050004

It might be the real cursed image.


741791 No.15050019

Not until I get bored. Some games make me get bored quicker than others.


8be05c No.15050075

Sometimes if I get stuck on a puzzle I'll look it up online but what I do more often is look up stats for items. JPRGs for example never fucking explain what their version of resistance, armor or increased damage is. You usually can't figure out what they do without artistically spending hours testing what the damage algorithm is which often times has already been done by someone else.


5212ed No.15050085

If there's a mechanic I don't understand very well then I generally look it up. If I spend days stuck in a part (very rarely happens) then I look it up. Anything else though like secrets or specific builds/strategies I don't look up until after I've beaten the game at least once.


877569 No.15050137

Hijacking this thread for a question. Recently there was a game releases on steam with monster girls and stuff, about exploring. What was it called? I want to download it.


425aef No.15050139

>>15049934

Nah I want games to be fun so whenever it pulls bullshit puzzle I just look up the solution and continue on with the story.


43fd08 No.15050193

>>15049934

Generally speaking, I try to do everything myself the first time I beat a game. Then cheat like crazy looking up everything the second time around, if it's good enough to play again.


000000 No.15050234

Depends. I would never look up the solution to a level in a puzzle game. On the other hand, some games have no good reason to withhold information. Valid examples where it's not just acceptable, but preferable to look shit up are:

>games where crafting recipes are discovered through trial and error

>roguelikes where items have no description until you pick them up / buy them / use them


dfcc5a No.15050265

File: 06894f228c3092f⋯.jpg (172.54 KB, 800x650, 16:13, 56147727_p22_master1200.jpg)

Yes, since I play exclusively mmos and mmo-lite games and those are impossible to play without spending just as much time on wikis as you do in game itself.


94cd4b No.15050325

I only look up the most cryptic shit, like the game doesn't ever explain it, it isn't in the manual, it isn't even vaguely hinted at in poorly translates NPC dialogue. If other people could figure it out and I can't, I'm a filthy casual.


877569 No.15050714

>>15050137

Nevermind, useless cunts. It's Hakoniwa Explorer Plus.


3904d3 No.15050965

For the most part I'll learn on my own, and then look things up to really understand the difficult parts. Minecraft is a good example: literally nobody can understand the full depths of redstone just by experimenting, because its function isn't intuitive or based on any sort of real-world system like electrical conduction. Everyone looks up tutorials and guides.

Also, there's games like Dwarf Fortress where literally nothing makes and sense, and you need tutorials just to figure out how to START.


9a95dd No.15050996

I like to look things up to learn about them, but not to gain a big advantage.

For example, I used to use examine on just about everything in runescape.


7ee522 No.15051024

Depends. If I can figure things out for myself I'll keep it that way but sometimes I have a lot of issues for one specific mission and I'll do that one by a guide.


d42ac6 No.15051080

Depends on the game and whether or not it explains stuff adequately. If it's something like FF5, where it doesn't tell you what the later abilities from jobs are, so you waste a ton of time trying to max out berserker? I'm 100% going to look up what the job abilities are. That's information that should be given to the player up front. If it's something like FF6, where certain pieces of magicite are hidden away in secret areas and you have to solve puzzles to unlock new spells? If I miss shit, it's my own fault for missing that shit. If FF6 then required certain missable spells to actually progress and I missed one and needed to backtrack a bunch, then I'd play the rest of the game with a guide in hand, because fuck that shit.

Aside from that, only when I get really stuck.


000000 No.15057090

>>15049934

I strongly prefer to work out strats myself but I definitely look up the details of game mechanics.


52b20d No.15057147

The last time I looked up for a puzzle solution was when I played the Silent Hill games (2 in the higest difficulty setting gave me a few headaches before I resorted to gamefaqs)

I usually look up guides for specific locations and collectibles.


ef3523 No.15057152

I like looking at video game wikis


48cbb5 No.15057186

I'll sometimes look up backstory stuff or bios for characters I forget about along the way.


bf6230 No.15057230

I prefer to go as blind as possible, which is why when I anticipate any game's release, I immediately cut off contact with 8chan, because you fuckers just can't help yourselves and post spoilers to every minute detail.


eaefe8 No.15057232

only when i am too much of a brainlet to solve puzzles after wasting an obscene amount of time trying to solve them by myself.


bf6230 No.15057236

>>15051080

>. If it's something like FF5, where it doesn't tell you what the later abilities from jobs are

Most of the time the abilities are pretty obvious. Haste? Obvious. Holy? Obvious. Fire? Obvious. What abilities did you need more info for?


d341c0 No.15057243

>>15049934

>that image

NEVER EVER


bf6230 No.15057250

>>15057243

What is it?


42ec2f No.15057270

Only when the game suddenly decides it doesn't want to be the game anymore. Fuck that shit.


a61dae No.15057297

>>15057250

The trees look like trees from a certain minecraft mod, so i'm assuming it's minecraft map.


703dc5 No.15057305

>>15057297

Now that I look at it, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Cubeworld. A game that never happened and whose developer vanished from the face of the earth.


566fb3 No.15057384

Depends. It's ok look for explanation for RPG or strategy mechanics but it's never ok to look for solution for puzzles in point-n-click or puzzle games.


bf6230 No.15058129

>>15057305

To be honest, Cube World has actually come a long way since that first launch that then resulted in them going dark for months or even years. They've added in more races, they've added in content, bosses, etc.

Thing is, it's like a great man once said. "If you ship your game too early, your game will only be remembered for that bad launch. If you ship your game late, people will only ever remember how good it was."

Duke Nukem Forever is a great example, the game took forever to make, and it was still shit.


814c9c No.15058176

File: 50b230e909bf7f1⋯.jpg (394.21 KB, 996x1350, 166:225, La-Mulana.jpg)

>>15049934

I try to avoid it (especially in adventures), but sometimes the puzzles are so ridiculous that there's hardly any other way.

For instance, Deponia has one situation where you need to eavesdrop on some guys on the other side of a door, but no matter how much you try, the player character will insist that the surroundings are to noisy for him to make out anything:

>Logical Solution: Spend the next hour trying to combine every item in your inventory in order to get something that either makes it easier to hear the stuff behind the door, or shuts out the surrounding noise.

>Actual Solution: Go to the options menu and set the music slider to zero, because everyone would have thought of that, right?

Or in La-Mulana (which admittedly is a bit of an extreme example): One text you've scanned says you need to go there and there and enter the great sleep or something.

>Logical Solution: Re-read the original text over and over again, spend several hours reading others text in the ruins, try to find something that may or may not make your character fall asleep

>Actual Solution: Go to the spot and pause the game. After a while, Lemeza will start playing silly idle animation and eventually just fall asleep.


5cc037 No.15058243

>>15058176

La mulana is a good game tainted by some retarded puzzles.

>Having to crouch on a specific pot so your character goes down like Mario on a pipe, even though you never have to do anything like that in the game.


284d5b No.15058737

File: 0246b36b5d58fcb⋯.webm (3.83 MB, 642x448, 321:224, Super Metroid - Early Sup….webm)

>>15050234

I'm the same, though I will also look up the locations of items in games I am re-playing, if I've forgotten where they are. Stuff like where the earliest means of getting super missiles, power bombs, or other items in Metroid games are, if sequence breaking is possible without super autism and TAS-level reflexes.


23876f No.15059048

File: b978f7f812225c1⋯.png (3.55 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

I usually try to figure out the puzzles myself. In Skyrim, though, the stone totem puzzles with the animal symbols usually baffle me enough that I have to look up the solution. If I can't find one for some reason, I will just try every combination which can take a long time since there are 27 possible combinations for three totems.


43fd08 No.15059084

>>15059048

>Skyrim puzzles are too hard

For the love of all that is holy, I hope you're just trolling.


381f25 No.15059201

I have a friend that does that. But he actually way overthinks everything and tries to min/max every tiny detail. He does all this before even loading the game for the first time. It's so bad that it's become a running joke between my group of gamin buddies. Me personally? I just play the damn game. If I really get stuck on something, I'll look for a little help somewhere.


887652 No.15059271

>>15059048

imagine this nigger trying to play morrowind.


43fd08 No.15059309

>>15059271

I'm going with trolling bullshitter. Because no one should be that fucking stupid.


eaefe8 No.15059318

>>15059048

well memed friend!


c2e18b No.15059403

>>15059048

Wait a minute that card


249466 No.15064822

>>15049985

>if frustration outweighs enjoyment too much I'll tend to look up advice online

Same. A good example that happened to me a few hours ago:

>playing Dragon's Dogma

>doing some easy quests

>picking flowers, killing rabbits

>eh, easy shit but can't complain about free money

>oh look, an escort

>it's a 200 meter escort, that wasn't so bad

>oh you want an escort where to?

>Grand Encampment? Looks kinda far

>Holy fucking shit WHAT IS ALL THIS

>Why are you so suicidal?

>WHY AM I SO SUICIDAL

You go from "flower picking" and "rabbit slaying" to

>30 well armed bandits

>3 Cyclops (2 armored)

>2 chimeras

>24 Ice Harpies

>wolves out the ass

>a couple undead knights

And during all this, the useless escort faggot keeps parking himself beneath the feet of wathever giant creature wanders near.

I DID manage to do it, but it wasn't fun, and looking up the quest online only gave me two tidbits of information:

>if you already accepted, you can't unaccept it

>this quest can appear early in the game where the player is ill equipped, beware accepting it at low levels!

It's been a while since I played a game where the developer fucks up this much, even non-intetionaly.

20 levels later, I'm enacting my revenge on the Chimera population.


471bec No.15067613

File: 2d5640dbabf245b⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 252.39 KB, 1945x548, 1945:548, ClipboardImage.png)

I usually stay away from looking stuff up but ever since Persona 1 I've been paranoid. The spoilered image is the directions for starting the secret bonus "Snow Queen Quest", which is basically a second, secret game about half as long as the main quest. Persona series always has things like this but it's worst in 1.


ff9e4b No.15067623

>>15049934

What's the point of the wall and moat if there's a paved road leading right into town over land barely a few minute's walk from the gates? Might as well just put up a sign there saying "BANDITS ENTER HERE FOR FREE RAPE"


1a9223 No.15067698

>>15049934

Keep beating my head against a puzzle until I'm at my wits end, and then maybe I'll look up the answer if I can't figure out even after an eternity. Had to look up a few things on La Mualana, but I gave it my best shot and figured a lot of things out on my own too.


656d4d No.15074136

>>15049934

Just git gud.


824ed6 No.15074170

I don't look things up until my second playthrough to get all the stuff I missed.

>>15064822

Escort quests are lame and you should just put portcrystals at their destinations and use a ferrystone to complete the quest instantly.


636de5 No.15074286

File: 5cffabc4201dae3⋯.jpg (87.82 KB, 350x229, 350:229, cebola.jpg)

>>15049934

I avoid looking up solutions or ways to get past certain parts at all costs.

Unless I get really stuck for literal days trying to find a direction or solution to something(happened in La-Mulana), at that point it's safe to assume I'd never find it by myself no matter how long I looked for it in game.

Another situation where I do it is when something weird happens and I think the game bugged out. Happened several times on several games, and often I was right, the game had a game breaking bug and impeded my progress.


85e400 No.15074674

>>15049934

I specifically go out of my way to look up useless stats to ignore and never invest in. I just don't have the patience to do a restart when I realize how badly I fucked up character creation anymore.


033732 No.15074687

I have a habit of looking up lots of stuff for games I play. That way, if I fail then there's no question that it's a lack of skill causing the fail (As opposed to knowledge or some BS enemy or item) and I can get better.


d1b36f No.15074716

>>15049985

This.

Also, once I finish a game, I tend to look it up to see what other content there is to do.


000000 No.15074776

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>>15049934

I play through the game normally and finish it first. I only look up stuff on youtube or gamefaqs if I'm truly stuck on a part. Post-game, I then look up any secrets I missed or strats I could've used.

Lurking on the gamefaqs site and forums has given me a lot help over the years. Youtube videos too.


50b260 No.15074777

>>15049934

If it's interesting, then I'll play it out blindly first.

If it's not, I'll just watch someone's playthrough to know what the story's about.

If there are rumors about the game's gameplay/story choices being unintuitive as fuck, then I'd look it up. I don't play NG+.




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