a39957 No.15038235
Non-shill OP edition.
Maybe the thread won't immediately be shitposted because a fag OP shilling for the current Total War shit. What mods ya playan? How's your campaign going?
I do like the Warhammer games, though. The new Kharibdyss update is pretty kewl.
26a32e No.15038243
>>15038235
Warcraft sucks dick.
I'm playing attila.
0ef6e5 No.15038270
Stainless steel Holy Roman Empire.
0ef6e5 No.15038273
>>15038243
Warhammer is NOT Warcraft.
2b4352 No.15038295
2b4352 No.15038296
>>15038273
it was at one point :^)
6cadc7 No.15038299
stainless steel M2TW and europa barbarorum 2. can't get into the new building mechanics of the new games, don't understand how it works and it's just shit so idont care to. if i conquer a village i ought to be able to build whatever the fuck i want provided i have the gold 2 do it
0ef6e5 No.15038328
>>15038296
Warcraft was supposed to be Warhammer.
Then War 3 and WoW happens.
cdb013 No.15038408
I wish EB wasn't so fucking buggy. Still good though.
I started playing Paradox games and I've been thinking how sad it is that TW keeps removing character depth. Ever since Rome 1 and Med 2 traits and ancillaries have become more and more limited. It makes me wonder what a TW game with slightly deeper interpersonal relations between characters would've been like. Stuff like friendships and rivalries within a kingdom. Manpower in EU also reminds me how in earlier TW recruiting units actually substracted population, which on huge unit scale meant that losing a lot of soldiers would affect your settlements. Not that catastrophic defeats were ever common since the AI is pretty useless even on a good day (and as far as I know it remains so), but that's a whole other topic.
a7d64b No.15038668
>Won't be shitposted
Where do you think you are?
I'm currently playing a campaign as Alith Anar. It's fun enough but the guy himself is kinda useless. No mount, shooting is meh, no magic.
1d20ba No.15038673
>>15038235
I had my doubts, but this is pretty much the best Total War game made in years! I really recommend you all pirate it.
26a32e No.15038708
>>15038673
There's no crack yet though ???
0ef6e5 No.15038713
>>15038673
It is not for sale?????
2a5f61 No.15038761
How do YOU play these games? Do you follow conventional tactics or do you do obscure unit movements and box them in?
When playing Rome I used to use the most unconventional tactics, at that time I had zero understanding of tactics, I'd just flank every unit and box them in. When it came to Empire I found it boring, I just made really long lines and threw cav at them. I've been trying to find videos on proper tactics used in the 16th century.
e2db52 No.15038796
>>15038673
Its an Attila reskin bro. The so far is Warhammer.
I dont even like the game as my fave is pic related but its really the best so far
0ef6e5 No.15038804
>>15038761
Conventional tactics, spearman in front, shock infantries as first layer, archer behind. Heavy cavalries on two flanks.
0ef6e5 No.15038806
5e504e No.15038809
Is Total War Rome worth buying?
0ca0f0 No.15038818
>>15038809
There is no such thing as Total War Rome.
The first on had the correct label
Rome: Total War.
There is Total War: Rome II
But none of these games are worth buying, because they will not make them like they used to.
db6ab0 No.15038841
>>15038408
>Ever since Rome 1 and Med 2 traits and ancillaries have become more and more limited. It makes me wonder what a TW game with slightly deeper interpersonal relations between characters would've been like
Ehhhhhh idk, did anyone really care about that anyways?
367d6f No.15038857
>>15038408
Three Kingdoms would be the place to test such an idea out, what with the very extensive cast of characters and historical figures of Chinese history.
8b9e1b No.15038907
Attila player here
Unironically playing as we wuz caesars and shit civ.
efeebd No.15038924
>>15038907
I always play the germanic since they feel closer to medieval kingdom, the frank, the ostrogoth, saxon, burgundian (quite OP).
11454d No.15038983
Rome 2 DEI. Coming from Rome 1 w/ Roma Surrectum it's way more fucking complicated and borderline tedious but it's fun. Expansion is slow as shit though, not sure how I feel about that.
a7d64b No.15039396
>>15038924
>Game is called Attila
>Not being an incorrigible horse nigger гутамшигт амьдрал
6c802f No.15039606
>>15038270
Teutonic Order for based Lebensraum expansion, HRE is for peasants
>refusing the total authority of the blessed pope
cd31d8 No.15039638
>>15038235
Game was better with Risk style movement. Now movement feels imprecise and fickle. It hinders gameplay instead of improving it.
895367 No.15039643
>>15039606
HRE can have the best teutonic order units (its knights) while having more variety in units.
And the pope is for cocksucker, anon, the Reich can elect an Anti-Pope any times.
19a769 No.15039727
>>15038761
>old TW games
>spam cavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcavcav
such a braindead game
8e67f8 No.15039742
>>15038235
How is there any replayability in these games? I can't imagine them changing the formula much from Rome: Total War.
6c1f8b No.15039748
Are there any total war clones or anything with similar combat systems, that don't have absolutely braindead AI?
8b9e1b No.15040054
>>15039748
To be honest the 'dumb" A.I is quite precise.
>send missile cavalry to bait enemy infantry
>They give chase and break formation in the process
>Send 5 heavy shock cavalry supported by archers to completely obliterate the chasers
>Repeat
This actually happened lots of time in history
856a17 No.15040098
Any other movies like Troy, Alexander or Rome HBO?
853972 No.15040149
>>15040098
Troy made by the BBC.
3424ee No.15040161
>>15040149
Must have been one dull threesome.
61e394 No.15040195
>>15040149
I still dont get it, how can these people justify the "we wuz greeks n shiet" when even modern greeks, after centuries of ottoman rule STILL arent black?
88febe No.15040303
>>15039748
Total war warhammer AI is essentially the most correct AI. It's like its been programmed sun tzus book. But that makes it predictable.
6865ef No.15040338
>>15038235
Playing a campaign of Medieval 2 with Stainless Steel, really enjoying it, except for the retarded noble expenses/contributions system, basically a lottery leaving my finances in the red most of the time, being 10k in debt seemingly for no reason from one turn to the next is not fun, the broken AI in sieges helps though got a jihad called on my capital, most attacks end up with the enemy stuck in a loop and not doing shit
Nice way to enjoy a podcast/music/asmr in the background
8b9e1b No.15040421
8b9e1b No.15040446
>>15040195
Forgive me for I have phoneposted, just a curiosity, ottoman turks used to cut their nigger slave dicks so they could work as guardsmen for their harem, which was obviously full of slav girls captured from ottoman client states because turks know their women were ugly as hell so the nobles prefered the cute white girls instead.
Here's the children of the Osmanli (ottoman royal family) family today.
37b2f9 No.15040493
>>15040453
>>15040446
So they bleached themselves? I guess that meme about turks being whiter now holds true.
6865ef No.15040496
>>15040446
>>15040453
Don't they look like that cause since their exile they've lived in Austria and married with europeans, last time i looked for info on the ottoman family was a long time ago.
I've heard that there's a very white part of istambul, that's like that today because that used to be the market for european slaves, there are turks that can pass for nordics
05b515 No.15040573
Recently I decided to replay a bit of Empire Darthmod as Prussia, decided to blitz Poland and started WW1: Protestant Reformation Edition as I was allied with GB, the Netherlands, and loosely with the Ottomans while the Polacks were allied with Russia, France, and had protectorates in the Baltic and Saxony, and I'm pretty damn sure that Sweden, Spain, and the Austrians will be joing in at some point, no sign of it ending anytime soon.
Is this how Hitler felt? All I wanted was Danzig.
d7fe66 No.15040580
> do like the Warhammer games
Why? They have near negative amounts of content, horrendous DLC policies, and they're releasing it three times at full price to get the full game.
8b9e1b No.15040581
>>15040496
>>15040493
Turks and their clients (berbers, tatars, etc) used to capture europeans to use as slaves, the young girls would be sent to the noblemens harems to serve as sex slaves while the captured men would be either used as soldiers (jenissaries if they were boys) or galley slaves or quarry workers.
If you lived in Mediterranean coast during the high middle ages, there would be a high that you would wake up in the morning with a scimitar in your throat and in the afternoon you would be displayed naked in a slave market in Tunis to be sold to the highest bidder.
Now going back to the ottoman royal family, the most famous sultan, Suleyman, married one of his harem best girls which was a polish girl by the name of Roxelana, if you see a white looking turk, make no mistake about it, it was a european rape baby.
6865ef No.15040732
>>15040573
Reminds me of a darthmod Prussian playthrough i played , it had a very WW1 feel to it, guess after a while a continental war is inevitable
>>15040581
true that, something completely ignored by you know what kind of people
3acbb8 No.15040746
>>15040580
They have near negative amounts of content
lolwut. The Warhammer games easily beat out all the other Total War games in terms of content. What do you mean?
>horrendous DLC policies
Aside from the Blood DLC (which began with Shogun 2 and most people here like that game), all the DLC has been actual DLC that aren't simple uniform swaps on models that already exist (for the most part). All the new DLC factions are designed from the ground up.
>they're releasing it three times at full price to get the full game.
Are you one of those niggers that thinks CA could have possibly released 1 Warhammer game that contained all the fucking factions? Do you have any idea how time consuming and expensive that would be? They didn't even expect the Warhammer games to be as successful as they have been.
d7fe66 No.15040761
>>15040746
Oh, so you're retarded. Wouldn't it have been faster to just say that?
05b515 No.15040853
>>15040732
That's probably a consequence of playing a European country without colonies or a big navy at the start; you're going to have to fight a major power if you want to expand and both you and that power are going to have allies on the continent. Only exception is Austria because you can expand in to the Balkans without anyone batting an eyelash because no one wants to ally with the roaches.
>>15040580
I have mixed feeling on WaWa, there are a lot of things I like about it but they're held back by shit like battles that go take faster to load than fight and boring campaigns, but as for your points
>near negative amounts of content
What? I can get that if you're talking about the campaign or sieges when it comes to factions there's plenty, none of the races play the same way and there's plenty of unit variety
>horrendous DLC policies
Mostly agree with you on that, the Blood and Gore DLC needs no explanation, the Chaos Warriors pre-order was bullshit, on a whole the DLC's are overpriced. But I'll give credit where it's due, the DLC at least feels like there's effort put in to it instead of one batch of re-skins after another that could've been put in better by modders like in attila and rome 2
>releasing it three times at full price to get the full game
Yeah, that's really jewish of them, they should've made the other two games in to expansion packs instead of trying to make them full fledged games.
>>15040746
>Do you have any idea how time consuming and expensive that would be?
CA is hardly poor, and the Chaos Warriors DLC clearly showed that they had funding to add more content free of extra charge but chose to sell it as bits and pieces instead I'm still mad they haven't done anything for Kislev
>They didn't even expect the Warhammer games to be as successful as they have been
This is admittedly true, if only because GW straight up told CA that and said they can do whatever they want with the licence now.
05b515 No.15040856
>>15040853
*take faster to finish than to load
Reminder to proof read your posts
bfb15a No.15040912
>tfw we'll never get another Napoleon tier total war
It was so comfy
>>15038809
Yes, you'll probably have to mess with it a bit to get it running optimally though
That said, the game is really built for you to play as the main roman factions and a lot of the mods don't work anymore since there were patches released after it went on Steam
856a17 No.15040923
>>15040581
>berbers
What
did the Ottoman empire include all of North-Africa?
05b515 No.15040928
>>15040923
A lot of it, but not all
853972 No.15041048
>>15040912
How the fuck do you get it to run optimally? I can't get the game to run above 40 fps no matter what settings I try. Is there some patch out there to fix the compatibility?
5a53a0 No.15041095
>>15040853
>CA is hardly poor, and the Chaos Warriors DLC clearly showed that they had funding to add more content free of extra charge but chose to sell it as bits and pieces instead
Of course they have the funds to make the game, there's just no way it would have been profitable. The Chaos pre-order was indeed horseshit, thankfully they didn't repeat it with the second game.
I heard Chaos wasn't even supposed to be a playable faction until game three, but people got so angry that they jerryrigged the Chaos faction to be playable.
7fbd76 No.15041104
>>15041048
If I'm not mistaken the game can only use up to 2 GBs of ram (R:TW and M2:TW) but you can check the forums or search on how to allow the older games to use up to 3 GBs of ram. There's also the problem of the number of CPU threads/cores the games run on but as far as I know there's no fix for that
0b2f0e No.15041110
>>15038809
Either find the CDs or pirate it. Steam updates broke a lot of mods that will not get updated. I keep a fresh install of Rome 1 and all the expansions on my computer at all times and just copy/paste the game folder to create a copy that I will mod.
d7fe66 No.15041164
>What? I can get that if you're talking about the campaign or sieges when it comes to factions there's plenty
Didn't the first one ship with like 4 factions? The fuck are you on about. The games are near devoid of content, and I can't fathom you thinking otherwise.
d7fe66 No.15041168
05b515 No.15041185
>>15041164
Four factions that were wildly different from each other, I was talking about how they plyed differentyl, not how many there was; I should've been clearer on that. Thinking it over, you're right; the initial release for WaWa was really shallow and that we needed DLC to make it feel complete is shitty.
05b515 No.15041188
>>15041185
What the fuck is wrong with my spelling today Jesus Christ
0b2f0e No.15041211
>>15041164
That's 4 VERY different factions as opposed to the barely different factions in every other modern Total War game. Vampires, Dwarves, Empire, and Greenskins all have unique units, leaders, strategies, and aesthetics.
Medieval 2 is literally my favorite video game of all time and when WaWa was first coming out I really wanted to hate it and wanted it to bomb. But I eventually saw enough gameplay to get me to try it out and have been very satisfied.
6865ef No.15041227
>>15041211
>Medieval 2 is literally my favorite video game of all time
d7fe66 No.15041419
>>15041211
>That's 4 VERY different factions
That makes it harder to make, that does not make it an acceptable amount of content
cdb013 No.15041525
>>15038841
Yes, it meant that characters and bloodlines could become distinct from one another both in gameplay and lore. It added to the game significantly. Specializing governors and generals was fun. You could end up with families full of awesome characters if you did it right. And let us not forget the general speeches thar resulted from those traits. A lot of people care, which you would know if you'd ever been in a TW thread.
ba9e8d No.15041705
>>15041164
>>15041211
>>15041419
Four factions and the respective territory, tiny compared to previous eurocentric titles. Sure in medieval 2 you had less variety between units, but go to different corners of the map and compare the factions there and you still had a lot of variety between them. In total WaWa most of the variety revolves around the handful of monster units each faction has and their elites.
895367 No.15041738
>>15041705
That's still more variety than the average TW, considering Medieval 2 was Western Europe group vs Slav group vs Arab group vs Mongol.
The factions just follow that base with added unique units.
It's like comparing Warcraft 3 with Ages of Empires 2.
ba9e8d No.15041773
>>15041738
More like comparing Warcraft 2 with Warcraft 3 whereas Warcraft 2 is a straight-up RTS, Warcraft is an RTS + Hero units.
d49fa5 No.15041863
>>15038235
>SS6.4+longer assimilation
>battles and campaign set to hard
>be byzantium
>removing kebab and wop successfully
>100 turns in
>start experience frequent crashes
>AI turns can't complete because of crashes
67a43b No.15041921
>>15041863
>>start experience frequent crashes
>>AI turns can't complete because of crashes
that's basically been my entire experience modding m2 and people like to leave out the frequent crashing parts from their memory
d49fa5 No.15042077
>>15038673
How does ToB compare to
>atilla?
>rome ii?
>rome i?
>medieval 2?
I would play something else similar to medieval 2 or rome 1
9e4167 No.15042500
>>15041863
>SS6.4+longer assimilation
Just play SSHIP with this submod tool
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?752826-SSHIP-Tweaks-mini-mods-compilation-by-TM
you'll get a better experience with much more stability.
efeebd No.15042866
>>15041773
Warcraft 2 has hero units too.
we are speaking about dynamic faction vs small different faction.
Also anyone here play Real Warfare Northern Crusade.
ba9e8d No.15042885
>>15042866
>Warcraft 2 has hero units
o i am laffin
efeebd No.15042896
>>15042885
It does though.
0d67fb No.15042929
>>15042896
having special units in some of the campaign mission in wc2 isn't the same as having hero units part of each race's roster. wc2 didn't have hero units, unless you want to say that special units that appear in campaign missions count, in which case so did starcraft and every other RTS game.
42da2a No.15042998
>>15038761
Depends on the units I have, the starting map, and who I’m fighting. My typical match in Medieval II is a standard set up
>Archers lined up in front, set to retreat upon the enemy charge
>Lines of heavy infantry behind them, usually have enough to form a strong center and strong flanks
>Commander behind everyone, usually has heavy cavalry surrounding him
>Send heavy cavalry charging while archers and infantry march into range
>Cavalry shatters enemy frontline, archers pepper what remains as cavalry pulls back
>Heavy infantry smashes into enemy while cavalry repositions to lance their flanks
>Enemy typically starts routing at this point, if not, my commander charges in and kills enemy commander, enemy routs, cavalry hunts down enemies
Had some really intense battles where I was outnumbered and had little chance to win but won anyway. I managed to fight off the Mongols with only a skirmish cavalry and archer cavalry unit remaining against foot archers and light infantry after losing most of my force in the battle. I don’t know how the fuck they didn’t rout, but I kept peppering the enemies from afar while constantly coming in and pulling back with the skirmish cavalry. We made France proud that day.
My best game of Medieval II was when the game gave me a 4-Star general at age 16 when all my kings were getting assassinated and the Mongols we’re closing in. Scrambled together a force of heavy infantry and cavalry and gave it all to the young lad. Actually managed to win against a slightly bigger Mongol force with him at the helm. The commander ended up as a rebel and we got him onto our side. I got some more of my kings killed on purpose just to get the young lad on the throne and HOLY FUCK was he unstoppable. I have so many stories from that one game. Ended up bringing the Mongols down to one settlement and securing an alliance with them so we could hunt Turks together. Conquered Africa, won a war against a united Poland, Hungary, Venice, and HRE, drive out the Pope, discovered the new world, and conquered half of Russia before he died of old age. By the time he was 25 his stats were all maxed out. Motherfucking Marcel the Conquerer and his Mongol sidekick Berkei
9755c9 No.15043003
>>15042077
Most similar to Attila but dumbed down, no agents or minor settlement garrisons and trading is done automatically, no treaties
0ef6e5 No.15043047
>>15042929
But that is hero unit though.
0d67fb No.15043051
>>15043047
no, because in wc2 it only exists in the campaign. in wc3, the regular matches all have hero units (each race has 4 of them, plus the neutral tavern heroes). in other games like sc1 and wc2, the socalled hero units only appear in certain campaign missions but aren't part of the race normally.
stop pretending to misunderstand.
8ae55f No.15043062
>>15043010
I don't understand what you're trying to relate here. I'm not saying the Medieval 2 formation handling isn't retarded, but what does Napoleonic formation have to do with anything? That is a completely different sort of warfare.
11454d No.15043064
>>15043010
>>15043010
>faggot that has never played scenario battles or multiplayer
wew
103488 No.15043213
>>15041863
>>played as Byzantium in SS6.4
well done, that shit's hard
e76196 No.15043507
Warhammer 2: Mortal Empires campaign is the best total war map/mode to date.
prove me wrong.
Also the series has the best art as well.
79f5cc No.15043527
>>15043507
>there is no pirated version of mortal empires.
Fuck.
e76196 No.15043545
>>15043527
Yeah, You can trick the steam version into thinking you have access to all of the DLC, even on multiplayer.
But you basically have to buy Wammer 1 to do Mortal Empires.
On another note, Why is the mod UI so god damn atrocious in the TW browser?
It makes using more than 10 mods at a time a complete chore.
77dd3e No.15044195
>>15040912
>that font rendering in N:TW
Reminder that CA fucked up font rendering in one of the patches for Empire and never bothered to fix it. I believe it only affects some resolutions though. Don't know if they fixed it for Shogun 2 because I've never played that one.
b588a6 No.15044347
One should one get over? Empire, or Napoleon? Never played these games, so I dont know much, althought I heard badly about Empire, and Napoleon is of a lesser scale… Besides, I discovered that this game (Pic related) exists. Have someone played it, and so how it is? And compared to the CA games?
b588a6 No.15044410
>>15044347
*WHICH one should I get over?….
3e9933 No.15044424
>>15044347
Get Napoleon. Empire does have the biggest TW map, but too bad the game sucks.
Never heard of Imperial Glory, so I can't comment, sorry.
05b515 No.15044545
>>15044347
Napoleon is better, but modded Empire is breddy good so maybe pirate it later. Never played Imperial Glory but I have played pic related, and it's really good.
>>15043545
Yeah the browser on a whole is really bad, just use the mod manager from TWC
72d90a No.15044560
Playing Attila with the "The Long Night" mod
Its pretty good for an alpha
>>15044347
> Empire, or Napoleon?
Depends
Empire has the bigger map of the two and more mods, but is more bug ridden
Nappy on the other hand is shorter and on a smaller map but is regarded as a "bugfixed version of Empire"
I personally recommend Empire due to its huge map and mods
>and so how it is? And compared to the CA games?
Its has a risk style campaign map and real time battles (like Medieval 1)
Its not bad, but units have no moral and will always fight to the death and the fact that AI will always rush towards the victory point in battles that have them is annoying
Another game of that time period I can recommend is Cossacks 2
bfb15a No.15044585
>>15044347
>Empire, or Napoleon?
Why not both?
with mods these days they're fairly comparable, Empire has the bigger map but Napoleon has a bunch of short fun campaigns set in areas like North Italy or Egypt
652331 No.15044625
EB2, Koinion Hellenon. Switched the capital to Byzantion for shits and giggles. And to be closer to the front.
How do I break the stalemate?
They won't peace out despite me taking Sinope, Ankyra, Amaseia and Ipsos and winning every battle with based hoplites. I've got roughly the same number of troops as the Seleucids and Armenians on the front but can't attack since they've got more money in between and have their homeland closer to the front. And my troops are battered despite cycling regularly. This open Anatolian plain is tying down 3/4 of my army and can imagine the brown allied shits(Getui) turn on me considering this is TW diplomacy and they would want that balkan clay.
I'm currently rampaging through Persia(at Persepolis) with 6 assasins sabotaging everything happiness related but persian shits won't rebell. I'm in process of sending the second half of a full skirmisher cavalry stack behind the lines to occupy some Persian cities since the first try was quite successful at taking the persian gulf port with the help of my spies. My plan is to redirect their armies and get some more favorable defense positions on the Taurus mountains. Hopefully I could sell some Persian cities to idiotic Parthia so they would finally ally me.
The other plan is to grow my economy to break them with numbers.
I fucking hate diplomacy in TW games.
b9c006 No.15044791
>>15040912
rome is pretty boring once you discover that making armies of generals lets you steamroll everything instantly
Napoleon however is incredibly fun (with darthmod), probably the most fun TW game
652331 No.15044875
>>15044791
>that birtbong propaganda
Napoleon was a chad.
a39957 No.15044952
>>15043545
Thankfully someone finally made an actual mod manager for Total WaWa. For a series that's has one of the more dedicated modding community, CA has never really supported it in any meaningful way.
e75eec No.15045037
>>15044875
He did literally nothing wrong.
05b515 No.15045056
>>15045037
The only things he did wrong were not finding a workable compromise with Britain, attacking the Spanish, and expecting the Russians to play fair after he had beaten them in the past.
86360c No.15049297
6865ef No.15056541
67159b No.15056590
>>15049297
>>15056541
Nah mods don't fix sieges. Most are just too fucking spergy as well. Yes, let's add 300 regiments of foot that clutter the recruitment window but are just redskins of the regular musketeers.
b5ddbd No.15057789
>>15044625
What are the advantages to playing EB2 because I am quite comfy right now with Rome and EB1
cb99e6 No.15057882
>>15057789
More features in general, better scripting, better gameplay (less AI stack spam etc.), and no more fantasy units if you really care about that sort of thing but it comes at the cost of probably the worst incarnation of Medieval 2's engine bugs, infantry charges are often completely broken and pathfinding when chasing routing units is so bad that its rare to see cavalry destroying more than a quarter of a routing unit without manually ordering them into the middle of the unit and then attacking.
b5ddbd No.15057899
>>15057882
Maybe when bugs are ironed out I'll switch over. I really love EB. Easily in my top 10.
2679ba No.15057906
>>15049297
It's probably the most mediocre of all the TW titles, but it's not outright bad.
Unlike its successors, it actually had a sensible research system, although everything else is worse.
Naval battles are all right and cavalry is useless late game.
Personally, I liked it, and I bloody hated Shogun 2 and everything afterwards.
>>15057789
>better battles
>more nuanced recruiting system with limited unit availability like in Med2
>more campaign mechanics
>better progression system which combines culture and population mechanics
<the culture mechanic will have you pulling your hair the first few hours until you figure it out
That last one can be really frustrating at times because having an allied government (which you will want to establish in most newly conquered territories) is going to increase "rebel" culture instead of your own.
They could have just limited the building options significantly, but no, they had to go full retard with that idea.
>>15044625
Bait them to fight you at that river crossing with a decent army.
If they refuse to budge, remove a unit or two until they come at you. Just make sure the army is top notch.
>>15057882
Can confirm that chasing routing units is a complete bitch, but if you don't mind babysitting your light cav, it's perfectly doable.
I don't think I've seen any problems with infantry charges though, but then again, I really don't care about those anyway.
cb99e6 No.15057991
>>15057899
>Maybe when bugs are ironed out I'll switch over
Unfortunately, they can't be fixed. IIRC the infantry charge bug is caused by the way they worked around the javelin unit bugs while the router pursuit one is another engine bug but exacerbated by their unit hit rate reduction (part of slowing down battles) which effects unit cohesion thanks to quality CA coding.
>>15057906
>I don't think I've seen any problems with infantry charges though
It's where only the front rank charges. It generally happens near the start when the AI does its big blob charge at a part of your frontline and the attacking formations become disordered, though it tends to correct itself as more men are drawn into the melee.
b5ddbd No.15058115
>>15057906
> having an allied government (which you will want to establish in most newly conquered territories) is going to increase "rebel" culture instead of your own.
This is the biggest crisis Rome faced after the Punic Wars so I don't see how it is bad to make it a mechanic in a game about Republican Rome. Actually sounds good.
d7fe66 No.15058190
My biggest gripe with EB2 was that consuls and shit had to be in Rome to get re-elected or whatever but it was easy to make it take 3-4 turns (9-12 months) to get there, and they only had imperium for what, 2-4 years? So that's half to all of their time spent traveling. It's fucking stupid. It took about a month to go from the ass end of Anatolia to Rome, getting to fucking Sicily shouldn't take a year, especially for just a consul and his guard.
d7fe66 No.15058198
>>15058190
Oh, and if you don't get eligible "generals" back to Rome in time you don't get new consuls. What the shit? There WILL BE A FUCKING ELECTION REGARDLESS SO WHY CAN'T THE CURRENT CONSULS FUCKING LEAD HOLY FUCK
2679ba No.15058278
>>15057991
>It's where only the front rank charges
Oh yes, that's right.
Now I remember why I used to only have them run into the enemy and not properly charge.
>>15058115
Rome is not the entirety of EB2, and it can really be a pain in the ass at times.
I get your point though.
I prefer the Hellenic states anyway.