/v/ - Video Games

I played a lot of Vegas 2 back in the day. Was even one of my favorite games. But it's honestly a very shallow game. The cover system basically allows you to cheat in multiplayer, all weapons feel very weird. Strategies are downgraded compared to earlier r6 games. It's just overall not a very good game.

There were these

Red sabre was fun in coop to be perfectly honest with you, really reminded me of Rogue Spear and its super hard, super accurate but otherwise stupid AI

I really feel bad for Chris Allen and that he had to abandon the second project. then again, it was /agdg/-tier at most

Ground Branch never ever, at least we have the demo

>>15035006

>Rainbow Six Siege - could be decent if they focused on co-op against bots and realistic scenarios and tactics instead of a god-awful class-based multiplayer garbage shitpile

Anon, this is one of the most retarded things that I have read on here in a long while. Playing against bots is boring and shallow as all fuck. It's fine at first and can help acclimate a new player to the game but MP is where the real game lies. You just need to learn to play it. The learning curve is brutal and only gets tougher as the more ops and maps are added with each update. It is infinitely more deep and challenging and rewarding than just shooting bots in the head, as one would expect when having to contend with real people.

git gud nigger

>>15035163

1. All of these CQB PvP games ultimately results in people finding a glitchy dominant strategy that ruins any realism.

2. Problems with netcode, precision of control, peripheral vision and other senses one possesses in real life but not in game must be accounted for in gameplay but they aren't in these games.

3. PvP games have to be balanced so each side has a fair chance. This is ridiculous for realism when it's SWAT vs SWAT. I want to shoot Somali pirates who don't know what's coming.

4. PvP NEVER has the element of surprise or any sense of realistic encounters. Arma can accomplish this somewhat with PvP but it requires games to last 6-12 hours.

5. These games NEVER implement realistic damage systems. Get shot in the knee? It's okay. 9mm so only 20 damage. Even GTA has more enjoyable firefights just because the NPCs react physically to getting shot.

6. Classes that force you to play as some Overwatch character so you can use a type of weapon…. This ruined my experience from the first second and ultimately made me uninstall the game

7. Destruction is a gimmick. You can destroy this wall BUT NOT THAT WALL BECAUSE ITS NEEDED FOR BALANCE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP THE GAME GOING.

8. The gamemodes SUCK.

Vegas 2 and SWAT 4 suffer from many of these issues BUT they're older games with more to offer and aren't crippled by terrible design choices. These games were designed around the terrorist hunt experience while that's just tacked on to your pathetic team deathmatch game. There is no way that Siege is superior to Vegas except in graphics, control and destruction (even though its gimmicky nature is personally a turn off).

>>15035042

This.

>gun play is shallow

>most weapons handle practically the same and feel unrealistic as fuck

>the enemy AI, both in story mode and terrorist hunt, is completely braindead with horrible pathfinding and either can't hit for shit or has aimbot precision

>as a result stealth is completely broken as it seems enemies have a wallhax and know exactly where you are

>weapons and gear locked behind exp grind

>the cover system was CLEARLY put in because the Vegas games were developed for consoles and then badly ported to PC so they had to add the ebin whack-a-mole system to make it easier on fags who use analog sticks to aim

Also:

>Strategies are downgraded compared to earlier r6 games

There's no strategy at all compared to the other R6 games, it's all a matter of "should I go in through this door or this other one" and that's not even through all the game, as the campaign is pretty linear and terrorist hunt doesn't exactly let you plan at all since they fucking spawn out of thin air when you're not looking.

>It's just overall not a very good game.

Yes. I've had a guilty amount of fun with it despite all the glaring flaws, mostly because the character customization let me larp as a cool oper8or.

>>15035006

>Rainbow Six: Vegas 2

>good CQB tactical shooter

Excuse me nigger?

>>15035006

So how hard is it to setup a co-op internet server for swat 4 with pirated copies? Thinking of trying to get my friends into it since they never played it before.

>>15035090

This sums it up well. That other one they used for police training or whatever could be fun if it ever gets posted online.