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>>15026004

Whales were good for something at least.

>>15026004

I-is this loss?

>>15026433

Whales so autistic they funded an entire AAA game.

>The last real Ace combat game was a F2P Ps3 exclusive.

FUCK

ah well, at least the remake of 2 on 3ds exists.

>>15026738

>Last

I hope you mean "previous", anon.

I played a demo of this series on ps2 as a kid and I am wondering what the appeal is. The Dogfighting didn't really do anything for me. Felt repetitive. You just locked on to other jets and shot missiles at them the whole level and that was just about it. Is it the story?

If it's decent, it doesn't owe shit to anybody.

>>15026965

Ace Combat games are really a sum of their parts. Consider the trinity games- they're known for having fitting OST and matching those tracks well to the given mission, ingame voice comm banter creating a sense of immersion, a level of replayability afforded by letting you choose your plane and weapons (and their progression) while chasing after S ranks, and solid lore exposition that gets you attached to the different squadrons/nations.

Consider 04, you start out as a random pilot in the Mobius Squadronand by the end of the game you're a legendary pilot and interspersed throughout you learn about your rival the Yellow Squadron and the progress of the war going on in the background. Interspersed throughout you're tackling semi-plausible superweapons like Stonehenge and Megalith.

>>15026965

Sounds like you played it on easy. Try any higher difficulty and you might see it. Besides the gameplay, the story is fun and delightfully cheesy. Sorta like an alt-universe Top Gun at times. There's also the soundtrack, which is always fuckin rad.

>>15026965

>You just locked on to other jets and shot missiles at them the whole level and that was just about it.

Any game can sound that boring if you water it down like that.

>In Earth Defense Force you just shoot bugs and robots that's about it.

If you can look at vid related and tell me that's all there is too it then you ain't shit.

>>15026965

It's a combination of story and gameplay. I never played the demos, so I'm not sure what part of the game it was showing, but the dogfights get a little more interesting than that. You usually have options in terms of planes and special weapons, as well as an objective which might shift how you fight, or which enemies you go after. Harder difficulties give you less chances to fuck up, and the enemy AI performs a bit better evading your missiles, requiring you to fire at a good angle.

There are also ground bombing missions, which can get hectic with SAMs flying around. 5 and 0 add wingman mechanics, and have more complex stories, but all 3 of the PS2 games are well-written to never sacrifice gameplay for story.

04 can be a bit underwhelming compared to its successors, but I recommended starting there since it's more concise, in both story and gameplay (it's not very long, and there aren't any bad missions)

Ace Combat is less of a flight sim as an arcadey flight combat game, where you can have 100 missiles and make impossible maneuvers.

They can all be emulated fairly well, though 04 is a bit glitchy. Recommended order is 04->5->0, then try out the rest of the series (skip Assault Horizon and the gba one, unless you like pain)

>>15026965

Listen to this and tell me it doesn't get you hyped, especially when the chorus comes in. These games feel like if Kojima made a flight sim.

I really enjoyed the gameplay of AC:I. At higher levels the planes could fly incredibly fast and do a 180 in a split second, and the fact that you're competing against other players and not just braindead AI made it that more fun. You could also tune them with unlockable parts. If there's anything PA could do perfectly with the Ace Combat series, it would be to create a game where the main focus is multiplayer with a small single player campaign. I honestly don't care much for the cheesy story in the PS2 titles, but if they brought back the simplicity of AC2 or branching missions in AC3 and the PSP games it would be sweet.

>>15027120

Forgot to clarify, a non-paywalled game

>>15027120

Well it's confirmed that AC7 is getting online multiplayer and tuning is also confirmed, so I'm really hoping that we'll get the best of ACI without the microtransaction bullshit.

CUM HISTORIA

I just had a thought. It might be just a gimmick or something, but what if there was a co-op copilot mode in AC7 where one person actually maneuvered and the other was in charge of weapons? Of course, you'd be limited to two-seater aircraft, but I feel like that could at least be fun in a setting where you're just screwing around with friends.

>>15026004

It doesn't mater where it came from

What matters is the game.

Ace combat is meme game, it shouldn't really exist.

Finally the whales can be useful for once and actually help make good games instead of the usual shit.

>>15027053

I wasn't trying to sound like a troll or anything. By all you did that is all it felt like you did. I mean there wasn't much else to the demo. Look at something like Star Fox. It's a completely different game for sure, no denying that. But there is level design, secrets, crazy bosses, squadmates that give you helpful info and open alternate routes. It's not comparable but I think you get the idea. It just felt like flying in a giant box. It didn't feel designed I guess? I love Dogfighting games. Like Star Fox's all range mode and Crimson Skies. But those had level designs, crazy boss fights, characters, ect. I get what you're saying though. Not trying to shit on Ace Combat. I have been on /v/ for over a decade but Ace Combats sacred cow status never made sense to me. It just didn't grab me back then and was wondering what I missed.

>>15028221

That's like saying Metal Gear is a meme game, Although Ace Combat is an actual game.

>>15031093

>he doesn't dogfight an entire nation and its superweapons with his best buddy to the sound of electro-flamenco music

Think about what you're saying anon

>>15031093

>But those had level designs, crazy boss fights, characters, ect.

You mean like Ace Combat? I remember when an anon posted this video a couple years back

>>15027068

>Recommended order is 04->5->0

Honestly I think it's better to play zero, before 5, because you will get spoiled about the nukes dropped in Belka during the war.

>>15031219

This. After playing Zero I wished I had played it first, since 5 gives away a lot of its story beforehand. Not to mention you appreciate little details like Cipher allowing Huckebein to get away when you see the aftermath in 5.

>>15031206

>display 2000+ IAS

>plane flies at 70mph

Ok

>>15031282

Aight then. I'll check them out sometime.

>>15027179

MUTAT DEINDE RAZGRIZ

I'd love to see a spinoff about the Osean War with WWI planes.

>>15031999 (checked)

REVALAT IPSUM

>>15031195

That song is by far one of my favorites

>>15031219

>only have 5

>still waiting for parts to fcmod ps2

>cant emulate since computer is shit

>>15032917

I mean, you CAN play 5 first, that's what I and most people did since 5 came out first. Just keep in mind that playing 5 means you will know the inevitable outcome of Zero since it's a prequel.

>>15031282

What's wrong with my speakers?

How playable are the Ace combat Ps2 games on an emulator?

I keep hearing things about glitches n' sheeeit

>>15033390

5 and Zero run perfectly on the latest builds with mipmapping turned on. 04 still has the black plane and sun texture glitches in hardware mode (apparently because it was coded really weird compared to the other two) but if you have a beefy enough PC you can run it perfectly in software mode.

>>15033449

got a I7 6700k and a 1080.

Should be good then.

>>15033160

Go to audio plugin settings and enable desync.

>>15033465

My overclocked 2600k plays all three games in software mode just fine, so yeah you are good. I don't really even like playing in hardware mode with the resolution turned up because it makes the HUD look weird.

>>15042110

SU-47>F-22

>>15042110

The question is, which Su-35? There's at least 2 different Su-35s.

the right answer is neither because they both get utterly destroyed in the avionics department by just about any modern western fighter, no matter what RT marketing says.

>>15026004

If it's a good game what does it matter?

>>15063066

You're wrong.

It's not a game it's real life. I don't know if you can hear me Chopper but we miss you, please come back to us.