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>epic

Subspace Emissary sucks dick because it's just floaty Kirby shit with generic enemies. Melee adventure mode or bust.

>>15014845

>Melee adventure mode or bust.

Yes, please.

Subspace Emissary was an absolute slog, and unlocking characters through it is easily the least fun way to do anything.

I think there will be something like Subspace Emissary. They call it the Smash Bros Ultimate, they even brought Ridley despite size concerns due to fan requests, so I think they'll listen and it'll be there. If they announce that a story mode of some sort exists, there'll be tons of sales and publicity because even I wonder what the fuck they'd do with all those third party characters laying around.

>>15014825

> Do you think they will add an story mode like the Subspace Emissary one?

I want an Adventure mode like Melee, but with Bosses like SSE

Also Sakurai got butthurt that people uploaded the SSE cutscenes online.

>>15014893

>>15014845

This. Just give me a storyless beat-em-up esque sequence of random game environments interrupted by fighting others. It's not difficult to make and doesn't even require those pesky cutscenes that were the excuse for there not being anything in Smash 4.

Not unless their position has changed. Sakurai got totally assblasted about all the Subspace content being put up on YouTube and said they weren't going to put a lot of resources into story cutscenes after that.

Loved SSE, but it dragged on too long. A more concise version would be good.

>>15014825

I'd prefer a melee-esque adventure mode with branching paths over a new subspace. The cutscenes were fun for the time, but to do something like that now would be tired.

>>15015229

He said Ridley would never be part of Smash and here we are.

>>15015271

Doesn't have to be a cutscene story but something where interaction of characters actually matter. Shit like Snake saving the princesses was pretty cool. I want more like that.

>>15015271

This, we need another Underground Maze and Race to the Finish

I want an adventure mode like Melee, and something liek subspace emissary would be pretty neat.

>>15015331

We need Board the Platforms and character-unique target test again.

>>15015229

Sakurai said he won't be directing Smash for 3 Smashes now. He also said Ridley's too big. If Nintendo wants him to do something, he will do it. Just like this, I hope he'll make another Kid Icarus despite saying he won't.

>>15015501

Let it be known: If Sakurai says he isn't going to do something, he's going to do something.

The only things he says that are actually valid are that Smash isn't a fighting game and that Ultimate is a new game and not a port, because it's also Nintendo saying those things as well.

>>15014845

>Melee adventure mode or bust.

This. Give me fast punchy levels, not slow plodding faux-Kirby.

>>15015478

This. Classic mode is fine and all, but it gets pretty stale. Melee's Adventure mode was a great way to:

1) Get acquainted with the controls and play the game at your pace, since the areas between fights were navigable and helped you understand some fundamental mechanics (like the individual stats for characters, staying alive and item management if you're into casual shit)

2) Offered breathers in between fights, so you didn't suffer from playing the same 1v1 1v1 2v2 METAL GIANT FFA Final Boss shit over and over

3) Offered a distinct take on each franchise's premise, so you have to be nimble in the F-Zero level and go exploring in the Zelda one

The only things that should be different in a new version of it is that it would be nice to have path selection or randomization, so you don't play the same levels over and over again. Also, more time and character requirements for having alternate fights or sections (such as with Luigi) and the same style of Mission Mode.

Adventure mode? Yes. Subspace Emmisary cutscenes? No. There was an anon in another thread who suggested a Diablo style bash and smash RPG mode with random loot that isn't Smash Run. It could have themed levels, enemies, and bosses based on different Nintendo game themes.

>>15015590

Honestly, I would settle for fancy cinematic intros when unlocking characters. Because if the starting roster really is Smash 64 small, then that would add up to a hell of a lot.

>>15015604

I actually really fucking like how Sakurai explained why the starting roster will be that small, though I got scared briefly when he said "streamlined" because I thought he was gonna announce fucking character DLC seasons and shit.

Similarly I am glad that you can still use a Wii U Gamecube adapter because I thought they were gonna try and sell you a separate one.

>>15015611

Unlocking characters is fun. It will be especially fun when you will be able to pick up each newly unlocked character and play with them to see how they've been changed and tweaked since SSB4, before unlocking the next character and doing the same with them, in a lengthy cycle. Then once you have everyone you can focus on picking your mains.

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>>15015617

I'm pretty sure every character, stage, and major mode will be unlocked. Trophies, music, and stickers will be unlockables. Also anyone expecting a few more newcomers announcements between now and release?

>>15015638

Apparently there is one last character that's suppose to be joining the game.

>>15015640

Probably a new Pokémon most likely.

>>15015646

I hope not. Pokemon has enough reps, FE has enough reps, Mario has enough reps, Zelda has enough reps (Why three Links, and why are they not considered clones?), I'd like for the unknown character to not belong to any of series that have already have a representative (Which still leavs a few dozen of their own IPs Nintendo can pull from).

>>15015640

Source? I'm happy that everyone is back but I'll be underwhelmed if we're getting like only 3 new characters not counting echos.

>>15015670

>Why three Links, and why are they not considered clones?

Because EVERYONE IS HERE and they all have different physics and hitboxes and varying move properties. But I agree that if newcomers are going to be very limited, I want new IPs.

>>15015640

If you're talking about the 66 fighters thing, the advertised number is calculated differently than on the actual fighter page. The 66 figure counts Pokemon Trainer as one and echo fighters as separate (4 total) while the fighter page with 65 counts Trainer as three and doesn't include echoes (3 total). Fucking fine print.

I want Simon Belmont or Pyra (with or without Rex)

>>15015657

>Meleefags using a wireless controller

>>15015676

>>15015640

They said there would be at least 5 newcomers, the ones revealed at the Direct included.

Even though Sakurai said not to expect too many, I dunno, he might just be fucking with people. There could definitely be some secret newcomers not revealed before the game comes out, like with Sm4sh 3DS. And of course, there's gonna be DLC. Sm4sh had it and it was successful as hell so Ultimate will have it, too.

I feel as though Nintendo is planning for Ultimate to be a long, LONG-lasting game, both casually and competitively.

If they don't have some sort of solid single player mode, there'll be no point to playing the game at all.

>>15015690

>And of course, there's gonna be DLC.

If they do that, I'm not even going to give the game the time of day.

>>15015694

>playing Smash exclusively for solo content

>>15015697

Better bail now then because it's definitely happening.

>>15015700

>Playing multiplayer for any game ever

>Especially on a platform where online requires a subscription fee

Absolute cancer

>>15015718

Then you have no reason to buy a multiplayer party game.

>>15015725

You mean like Smash 4 was? Yeah, it was a travesty, hopefully they fix it and include actual content like Smash 2 and 3 had.

>>15015729

I'd rather have Viewtiful Joe or Amaterasu than Dante, if we're shooting for a third Capcom character.

I don't really consider echo characters as entirely new fighters. Just modified clones. I think if anything we'll see Rex&Pyra, maybe Takamaru because Sakurai has been wanting him has a fighter for a long time, and at least one new Pokemon. I'm hoping new Pokémon fighter is Eevee tbh. Though I won't doubt the popularity of meme owl.

>>15015739

Takamaru is still an Assist Trophy, I saw him during the Treehouse E3 footage.

Sage for second post but I just remembered Tetra could be a new Zelda rep adding all three Zelda's from every timeline.

>>15015727

>when u try to bait so hard you just throw all your food in the water

>>15015739

I'm expecting Simon Belmont.

>>15015746

Fug. Well autism says there's always Geno. I'll get the noose.

>>15015759

You will only let yourself down. Expect nothing. I we can only guess unless we're tranny whores fucking NoA's soyboy cucks ourselves.

what about an arms character?

>>15015780

I dunno, dude. There's quite a bit of Konami representation in Ultimate. Snake's back and Bomberman is an assist trophy. I think his chances of being playable are higher than ever.

>>15015783

NO, simon.

>>15015783

I haven't played Arms but the feeling I get from it is that nobody liked the main character, only some waifus.

That and it didn't quite make a splash like Splatoon did. Nobody remembers that thing.

If they did add Ridley I wouldn't be surprised if they actually added K.Rool as a new character or Dixie as a clone echo fighter of Diddy.

>>15015759

>>15015792

Simon would be another Konami rep along with Snake, and seeing how Bomberman got the assist trophy treatment the chances are slim.

>>15015802

>>15015802

See, my thoughts are for a second Konami rep it'd either be Simon, or Bomberman, and Bomberman's an assist trophy so that kinda narrows it down.

>>15015802

Youre not seeing the whole picture, simon isnt just konami, hes a classic NES character and that has pull man.

>>15015789

>There's quite a bit of Konami representation in Ultimate.

>I think his chances of being playable are higher than ever.

Wtf is this logic, usually one character is already enough representaiton, anything more than it is a bonus. the more reps there are the less likely it is to have yet another one.

>>15015806

There is the chance Bomberman got the axe because Simon got the theoretical second actual character for konami. But it is much more likely that they only wanted one fighter and bomberman just didn't make the cut.

>>15015813

So are hundred other characters that don't yet have anyone already representing their Company.

Bomberman not only had a NES game but also had 5 SNES ones and 2 N64. If that was a merit and he didn't get a character slot Simon's chances are even lower.

>Ridley vs. Ridley

Sounds good to me.

>>15015828

All I'm saying is, don't rule out anything. This is Sakurai we're talking about here. The guy's fucking insane.

Though we'll only really know once they reveal who the new characters are.

I actually do have a question, how and when are they gonna reveal characters? While Sakurai said not to expect too many, there have to be at least a decent amount of newcomers. It wouldn't be a Smash game without them. The question is, when will they be revealed?

>>15015828

Castlevania is way more popular than bomberman, it is a well known and regarded series.

It helps that simon already has a moveset.

>>15015842

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'd love to see a castlevania rep myself but I'm just saying it's unlikely.

>>15015847

That's just you saying your opinion and something that isn't true.

I think the represented companies are each getting at least one Assist Trophy since Shadow, Riki, Elecman and whatever were already a thing. And they now added a nigger from Bayonetta and Bomberman from Konami. I'm expecting to see a Square and Namco Bandai assist trophy.

Maybe Geno or a Chocobo for Square and Klonoa or Wargreymon for Namco Bandai.

I wonder if they'll retread the ass backwards shit they did in smash4 with that retarded board game.

>muh story

>not Adventure

FUCK. OFF

>>15015867

There's also a Knuckles Assist Trophy now. And Riki is first-party.

>>15014845

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>>15015875

>Melee fags get assblasted

Figured. Subspace Emissary is really fun to play coop. It is not perfect, but the story was pretty good considering it had no dialogue even when the gameplay could have been better. Enemy design and the world itself was pretty good.

>>15015271

There's no reason to be both Adventure Mode and Subspace Mode. It's "ultimate", it MUST have them.

>>15015680

>>15015690

Why do newcomers have to be very limited? There's literally nothing wrong with having a huge roaster on Smash seeing how it's a party game. Sure, I do agree that Toon Link should be a clone for Young Link or the otherway around, but an initial big roaster shouldn't rule out even more newcomers. I want for it to have more newcomers, because it's cool to have all the old characters back, but the game needs new stuff too. I'm expecting it to have some DLC characters at the very least, even if I just want them to be there from the get go.

>>15015725

>What is single p´layer campaign

>What is couch multiplayer

>>15015729

I'd love that.

>>15015739

The possibility of more clones would be alright. The bitching of Waluigi not being on it would probably lead to be a Waluigi in.

>>15015867

>That's just you saying your opinion and something that isn't true.

No, its the objective truth and you know it.

>>15015657

>wanting wireless controllers

I'm not even some autistic esports fag and you disgust me.

>>15015657

Or you could just use a Wavebird like a non-retard.

>>15015887

How in any way am I an assblasted Meleefag

I outright said in this thread Smash isn't a fighting game

>>15015097

Dr. Willy works for Shinra, and Ryu is a member of the new Foxhound.

>>15015887

>Why do newcomers have to be very limited?

Because Sakurai said so, so I'm not getting my hopes up.

>What is single p´layer campaign

A side-diversion from the multiplayer content.

I get why Sakurai doesn't want to do it, due to the cutscene leaks, and I can almost empathize, but him doing Subspace again would probably mean that Nintendo would go even more mental with the copyright strikes. I'd love to see a Subspace that played a bit better and was less repetitive, though.

No idea why everyone loves Adventure Mode so much, though, I found it bland.

>>15015900

No anon.

Can anyone explain where the assuredness that there is a second konami rep is coming from? Are Konami helping develop the game? That j's why PAC Man came in.

>>15015932

No one is saying it's assured. I'm just saying, it's possible.

>>15015932

Speaking of Bamco, perhaps the "yet to be revealed character" could be another Bamco rep.

>>15015873

The board game was a fun idea it was just implemented poorly. The rules were obtuse and made no sense but the idea of collecting fights and those fighters being stocks is sound. I wish there was a mode that let you have a stable of fighters where each time one was eliminated you got another one from the roster.

>>15015932

Bomberman is an assist Trophy now, alongside Snake being a character. It's not a given, but it seems like Konami is on board.

>>15015937

Lloyd? That would be neat.

I think there will be post launch newcomers as DLC too. Sadly I don't think there's going to be any more third party characters between now and launch. Post launch maybe.

That is unless Koei/Tecmo wants to bring Ryu Hayabusa to Smash Bros. as that last pillar of Nintendo NES third parties.

To get my roster fagging out of the way here's my most likely picks.

Tetra

Sprigman/Ribbon Girl (echo)

Rex&Pyra/Mythra/Nia (Can deviate and say attacker/defender/healer blade, fuck original game canon)

New Pokémon, 50/50 split between Decidueye and Eevee.

>>15015887

Waluigi should stay as an assist for those bitter sweet tears from Waluigifags. Feel sorry for Lipfags. At least they're doing something productive and modeling pantsu.

>>15015946

>Feel sorry for Lipfags

What, did Lip already get deconfirmed?

>>15015907

Most companies don't really do the copyright strike take-down thing anymore. What Nintendo does to streamers and youtubers now is claim the video so they receive 100% of the ad revenue. It doesn't affect people as bad as it used to because after the adpocalypse almost everyone had to switch to a different revenue platform like patreon, streamlabs, twitch subscriptions, etc. So now taking away adsense revenue does fuck all to streamers/youtubers and the videos still get to stay up (most of the time, anyway).

>>15015946

>new pokemon

What about Skarmory as a Ridley echo fighter?

>>15015958

There's already Meta-Ridley in the trailer. Could be a skin though.

>>15015962

It is just a skin, otherwise it'd be listed as an echo fighter by now.

>>15015253

What's different about it?

>>15015906

>A side-diversion from the multiplayer content

>Implying Smash is a multiplayer game

I hope you understand the difference between party game and multiplayer game. You can easily play Mario Party by yourself.

>>15015907

I do like Adventure but I found SSE way better. As I said, I don't see why Adventure Mode can't just be a revamped classic mode and keep SSE on it, or even just the 3 of them. And of course, the point of something like SSE on Ultimate would, hopefully, mean they would fix all the shitty things about the first one.

>>15015907

SSE was good, the issue wasn't SSE, it was brawl being floaty and it just became a floaty kirby superstar. I think Smash bros ultimate could create a cool subspace emmissary story mode, just ditch the cutscenes and make a cool kirby super star campaign mode again with stickers. Wouldnt mind having enemies being more punishing so different sticker builds could be a thing.

>>15015990

I really want stickers to come back. They made the equipment not feel soulless like Smash 4's.

>>15015981

>I hope you understand the difference between party game and multiplayer game. You can easily play Mario Party by yourself.

I know, and it is an incredibly sad endeavor, speaking from personal experience.

>>15015970

I guess you are right about the word "epic" but you should know better than to use that word and not expect people to call you a faggot

Also you have a point about Ridley, I just think it'd be fucking weird.

>>15015990

>it was brawl being floaty and it just became a floaty kirby superstar

Speaking of which, this is another thing that's bothering me. Will the gameplay actually be good? Will Sakurai finally be rid of the enternal plague that is "accessibility" and actually deliver on making a good game that you can play 5 years downline without seeing just how broken everything is?

>>15016012

Well, according to a lot of pro players as well as the Direct itself, they seem to REALLY be pandering towards the competitive community.

This is combined with Sakurai shaking his head during the Bayonetta combo at the invitational, and then hinting he's gonna nerf the fuck out of her.

I'd love to see it come back with cutscenes again. Imagine all the funny situations that could happen with a roster like this

>All 3 Links meet Zelda, Sheik and Ganon at once

>Everyone is confused as to what the fuck is going on

>>15016019

>they seem to REALLY be pandering towards the competitive community.

I can't wait for fucking nothing in terms of single player content. Bandai Namco loves shafting single player when the focus on multiplayer.

>>15016012

Well we have directional air dodges, a nerf to dodge spam, built-in shorthops, and the perfect shield has been turned into a harder parry. All it's really missing is L-cancelling I guess.

>>15015993

>and it is an incredibly sad endeavor

Not really. Faggot friends kept complaining I won every mini game so AI was a bigger challenge than any of my friends with less bitching and more fun. If something, they should just make a good AI and that's it.

>>15016002

I expected people to know what epic means and is regardless of Reddit's usage of the word. I wanted to experience the feeling of seeing something actually epic again.

I wonder if there's people that think SSE is cringy, there are some parts that are, but most characters actually blend pretty well together, like fucking Pikachu and Samus of all things.

>>15016019

>Muh competitive community

Great, game will be ruined.

>>15016023

Sounds extremely complicated, gimmicky and pointless. If all characters are on the same game why not make them interact with each other? There were some gold interactions in SSE, like everything involving Wario or Fox.

>this would be a full dedicated single player campaign.

Now this sounds better but without your shitty ideas. Having a reason to play as an specific character with it's own story and motivation to move forward, but that kind of things are hard to do with no dialogue, and smash never had seeing the nature of characters like Mario and Link expect Pit in Sm4sh, I guess, but dedicated campaign for each character would be nice.

>>15016089

Along with trophies explaining a character's origin and influence and whatnot, I want pamphlets of a character's moveset explaining where their moves come from or what they're inspired by.

>>15016024

Toon Link wasn't part of SSE, though, but this is exactly what I'm talking about.

>>15016089

If the section is short, that would be nice, but it'd be shit otherwise. In all honesty, it sounds cool for a different mode featuring all characters, but a short one. But as I said, sounds extremely complicated, you're basically making a different game for every character. It'd be cool for the original characters, but that's about it.

>>15016190

A stage where you fight Giant Ridley sounds really fucking plausible.

Can there be a post game remix version of Adventure vis Survival mode where you go through a randomizer with the game's levels arcade style and survive as long as you can? Every 10-15 rooms or so is a mid-boss Smash arena with a stage and fighters or a boss match. Also as you progress through the mode you get power ups like Smash Run that increase your stats.

Also, Adventure Mode should have 4 player co-op.

>>15016202

That was already in sm4sh anon, he would come out and beat the shit out of people,

He was also a boss in SSE back in brawl.

>>15016225

I know, but in Melee, given the Giant Donkey Kong stage, do you get what I mean?

>>15016238

>Brawl was my first smash bros which I got when I was 10y/o back in 2008.

Thanks for making me feel old, faggot. 10 was around the age when I got Melee.

>>15016238

Fuck off back to nursery school.

>>15016251

>>15016257

Also remember that 2008 was 10 years ago.

I am 20 years old now, so I've been able to legally fuck your mom for the past 2 years now.

>>15016248

Same.

>>15016238

Damn, I was like 13-14 when I first played Brawl, it was my first smash bros game too I had played Melee once at a friends place when I was younger but I don't think that really counts.

>>15016285

Brawl was also my first. I played Smash 64 at a friends house once, though. Never had a Gamecube or a friend with a Gamecube. And no I'm not underage, I'm 24.

>>15016292

I didn't assume you were underage, I'm only sorry that Brawl was your first Smash Bros.

>>15016300

Fair enough, I never really took to the smash games though. Never been a big nintendo fan. I just played Zelda and would run away and throw her fireball.

If Sakurai puts an indie character, I hope it's hollow knight. Fuck shovel knight, fuck undertale. I don't want Quote (because fuck nicalis)

>>15015640

Probably ARMS guy, an owl and another pokemon.

>>15016238

It was also my first Smash game, but at the time I didn't give a flying fuck about the franchise until they revealed Wario, and I got that shit for free.

I really lost interest on Ultimate, everyone returns? No cuts? That shit was the only exciting part. Can't getting wait to see Mario getting the shit on the stick.

>>15016315

I can agree with this. I won't mention Shantae.

>>15016315

>(because fuck nicalis)

That's a really good reason. It's also the only reason I can see. Smash is really good for advertisement, and I definitely see the underage kids and soyim giving nicalis money to see what game Quote is from.

>>15016315

>Fuck Nicalis

I'm a bit out of the loop, what did they do?

>>15016317

My first Smash game was Smash 64. Still have the cartridge. I didn't get Melee until we found it second hand 2 years after it released and everyone stopped playing it for FPS games. Was hoping to play Brawl online but… Well that sucked. I got Smash 3DS with no DLC. Got screwed out on my copy of Smash for Wii U since it was pre-order only and sold out of my area for literally 2 years. And I'm not spending another $40 on DLC for half the roster in a game that has a mostly dead online community by now.

I MIGHT pick up Ultimate but Nintendo has yet to sell me a Smash Bros. game with working online. Because I have no friends interested in local multiplayer outside of triple A turd of the week.

>>15014825

>>15016238

I'm starting to think the people who really want the SSE to return are those that played Brawl as their first Smash, while those that want Melee's Adventure mode to return like myself played N64/Melee first instead.

The SSE was an interesting idea, but I felt like after playing through it and beating it (in co-op, don't think I ever played through the entire campaign in single player), there wasn't much of a reason to go back. And the only time I went back was to unlock the Toon Link/Wolf/Jigglypuff cutscenes (by myself). I lacked the drive to 100% it.

With Melee's Adventure mode, that was fun to replay regardless of having already beaten it with X characters. Though I will say there could be a bias in having spent more time with Melee due to being young and having more free time compared to being older/less free time with Brawl.

I think the best compromise for Melee Adventure mode/SSE returning in Ultimate would be a Adventure mode (with co-op support) that with each character beating it unlocks a 2D comic panel style story of SSE:the Sequel follow up. It would be a better (and cheaper) use of resources vs making and directing a bunch of 3D cutscenes while still allowing for Melee's (short) Adventure mode replayability.

>>15016252

>>Metroid - Exploration and Boss Rooms

You forgot the self destruct escape sequence.

>>15016374

See >>15016267

Even though I firstly played Smash 64 when I was around 5 or so. Only faggots who complain about SSE are tourneyfags that don't give a shit about single player. I like SSE because it was a nice and extensive single player campaign with a really good story behind.

>Muh replayability

That's why it should be a long campaign. It's like comparing arcade matches with any kind of storyline. However, you had reasons to come back, like get trophies out of the enemies or collect more stickers. You can mindlessly replay Adventure or Classic mode, but SSE was a really good experience even if it's worth playing once. Why would you want to play it more than once anyway?

Is Ganondorf going to be his own unique character yet or are we stuck with yet another round of "slow and useless Cpt Falcon clone"?

>>15016409

He's a mix of his old Captain Falcon moves combined with new sword smash attacks.

>>15016403

>single player campaign with a really good story behind.

I can understand being entertained from it, but I can't agree with it being anymore than fan-fiction tier story wank. How can you say it's a good story?

>>15016315

Agreed on fuck Shovel Knight. It baffles me why so many people think he is fitting to represent indie games as a whole. The game is only fucking 4 years old. Quote or Shantae would be far better choices to represent indies.

>>15016413

the indie rep is steve from minecraft

it makes too much sense

>>15016404

I forgot to add:

<No specific achievements as Wario

>>15016409

Fucking called it, he's still stuck as a bastardized Cpt. Falcon.

>>15016413

Even Assist Trophies will get more useful amiibos.

>>15016424

Pretty sure it needs to be from a video game to be in Smash

>>15016409

autistic super tourney smashfag here

He's hyper buffed. Down smash is a copy of Cloud's down smash, and that is very good

His up smash is a sword sweep that also covers hitbox on the sides. also very good.

his frame data is better: Nair has little recovery time and spammable, little landing lag

Down B is also faster, and B always has hyper armor now no matter what (before it had a limited % of hyper armor, so now at least people will throw it rarely instead of never)

up tilt also got buffed, it is faster with less startup and he has much less recovery time out of it, so you can time it like a frame trap bomb without punish like before since end lag is much much less, so it will be usable.

overall he's gonna go from Tier G to Tier C

>>15016425

I mean yeah but he uses his sword

That WOULD be a step in the right direction except now that makes him another sword user in a game fucking full of them

>>15016430

Please give us more autistic tourneyfag analysis

I don't play in many tourneys but I find this shit interesting as fuck

>>15016403

That's why the remix post game Arcade modes like Time Attack, High Score, and Survival for short bursts of fun.

>>15016413

I'll pick Shantae over any indie for the Zero suit porn.

>>15016424

I'd take even that over Shovel Knight tbh. I predict his skins would be classic Steve, glowing eyes Herobrine, and then the autistic Minecraft Story Mode skins

>>15016444

I'm not exactly opposed to the idea of Shovel Knight in Smash, but not as a rep for indie games as a whole.

I mean he has an Amiibo and any character with one of those Skylanders collectible little shits automatically gets a bump in chances of being playable, but still.

On another note, I'm surprised at how little they've been pushing Amiibo lately. The only Amiibo during E3 were the Smash ones. I guess Nintendo's finally gonna kill them off soon. Fitting as I don't see many people buying them anymore.

>>15016447

>I'm surprised at how little they've been pushing Amiibo lately. The only Amiibo during E3 were the Smash ones. I guess Nintendo's finally gonna kill them off soon. Fitting as I don't see many people buying them anymore.

I wouldn't jump into conclusions, they would probably reveal more trash with the returning characters.

>>15016447

I'm sure many people would like to see Shovel Knight in, but to me, for some reason he just gives off a pretentious air of hipster indie bullshit. He's been getting put into everything else, like Yooka Laylee, like "LOOK, THERES THAT COOL INDIE GAME GUY, YOU KNOW WHO HE IS, RIGHT?" and I'm getting sick of seeing him. I definitely don't want to see him in Smash.

>>15016461

>I'm sure many people would like to see Shovel Knight in, but to me, for some reason he just gives off a pretentious air of hipster indie bullshit.

After the "gender update" I'm fully inclined to agree.

>>15014825

SSE was fun, I'd love to see it appear as something else. To be honest, I hate Smash multiplayer because no one plays it for fun. Everyone has to be either a memer or gets shitter busted because I'm not as good as them and they spend all their time to get to tournament level, where they never place above 3rd place.

>>15016456

That's why I said "soon"

They'll probably make Amiibos for all the new and returning characters, keep them around for future Switch games, then when they see no one buying them anymore throw the idea in the trash once and for all

>>15016447

Only because amiibo were treated like Beanie Baby collectibles more than an essential part of the game. At best they were a nice collectible easter egg. At worst they were required to unlock on disc DLC. Maybe if there was a proper game toys to life game that used amiibo as a game piece like an action miniature game similar to Skylanders then they could have stuck around a little longer. Otherwise they had one use in one game and you would have to format their data to use them in another game.

Smash Ultimate will bring back amiibo cockfighting. That'll be fun for a while.

>>15016480

All I remember of it is that they genderswapped all of the characters (And it was one of the Kickstarter goals).

>>15016461

Like that strong independent lesbian whose sprite design was confused with a monster.

>>15016483

Oh yeah, Amiibo cockfights were the fucking best thing to watch

>>15016374

Wrong, I played 64 first and hated Melee. Brawl is bad for multiple reasons, but SSE was fun. I love platformer beat-em-up Smash over any multiplayer. Too many cry babies that get mad at either being too good or losing a match once in a while. "Oh, you won by accident huh? Looks like I need to get my main out now! *hat tip*"

>>15016480

Yes. You can genderlflip all the characters, Shovel Knight and Shield Knight and all the bosses. AND THEN you can choose their pronouns, for maximum virtue-signaling.

>>15016483

>>15016493

The Smash Bros use of amiibo is still the best one yet. You don't really unlock anything like on disc DLC, just a silly optional thing of training your own fighter that was fun. I really wish Nintendo would create a central amiibo game where every single amiibo actually unlocks something. Maybe a board game perhaps? Like Mario Party with all different Nintendo characters. That would be pretty fun. Would optimally be a free download digitally, with an optional physical release with one or two exlusive amiibos for like $30

>>15016503

Remind me to never start a kickstarter campaign. Because I know the whales on the kickstarter. The only way to get funded is to virtue signal like an SJW because vidya is political.

>>15016511

Animal Crossing amiibo Festival was a free game in Japan where you used you tap your amiibo to roll dice and stuff happens, I guess. Not bad for a fun free game where all you need to buy is amiibo figures and cards.

Oh in the USA THEY SOLD IT AS A FULL RETAIL RELEASE FOR SIXTY FUCKING DOLLARS.

>>15016524

I'm surprised I never heard /v/ raise a storm over it. I expected it to be permanently renamed to Tranny Knight in the eyes of anons over just how blatant it was.

>>15016438

Well, for starters, in general everybody got buffed. Mario's Forward Air has little start-up now, you can basically use his big punch like Marth uses his Fair for zoning now, which is pretty cool.

Zelda and Palutena also got hyper buffed. Both had many slow and shitty attacks, Palutena now has WAY better frame data, her up tilt and forward tilt are fast and usable for the neutral game, hell her forward tilt is now very good for both space and frame trapping ledges. Zelda got a speed buff on her attacks and less recovery time or startup on many of her attacks. her up air is fast to happen and less recovery time, her side B is faster, her down B can now be used for set ups, before it was just an edge guard tool. Her nayru's love is also way faster. Again, most people who needed their attacks to be faster or with less lag got their buffs.

Ike, Zelda, Palutena, Ganondorf all got heavy buffs. They won't be bottom tier anymore. Kirby also got buffs judging from armada playing at the invitational. His dash attack is a straight upgrade from the useless yoyo wanna be spin he had before ( I would've preferred kirby getting the yoyo dash attack buffed, but the flame attack is very good, it's safe on shield and has good hitbox). Kirby has less lag on Down B, B (more range on B too), and many of his attacks got slight range upgrade. Up air, down smash, neutral air all good more hitbox and that "air being slashes" effect for extra hitbox. his down smash is also faster. Kirby is looking from Tier D to Tier B at least. B being buffed with more range and little lag is good. Another noteworthy mention is the little recovery time kirby has out of stone form. He can pseudo combo, bait, approach and neutral game with Down B now. I could even see fake Down Bs into down airs or baiting the enemy towards an uncomfortable area of the stage, away from kirby or into the air . Up B also has less recovery time, pseudo spammable. Kirby is looking very good.

>>15015640

>>15015932

The leaks predicting Ridley often said Simon Belmont as well (I forget which leak it was), so that's why everyone is betting on Simon.

>>15016486

>>15016503

A shame that they took an innocent, cute kickstarter goal and made it full marxist with that one blog update and virtual signal out of the blue when it was supposed to just be this cute wacky thing.

>>15016568

Question is was I right predicting Ridley should fear the puff? Or was puff unavailablein the demo?

>>15016626

unavailable

>>15016638

How do you think Ridley plays as is based on what you seen?

>>15016542

I know, I bought the physical release of Amiibo Festival. Nowhere near full price though, I got it for $10. That was worth it just for the Isabelle and Digby figures. The game was garbage.

>>15016568

So is Lucario still a piece of shit? I like how he plays but christ he needs less recovery frames and a speed boost. Rage mechanic removal would be nice but unlikely.

>>15016652

His Down B is strong, but not overpowered,

His B is cute but not very versatile, mostly edge guarding or "you come to me, Im not coming to you" projectile. After watching some footage, he has little lag after finiishing the move, so it will be akin to greninjas projectile, to pester enemies to come to him or to rack free damage.

His Side B will see use since it's a command grab, the question is how much will the meta evolve. Wave Dashing has been confirmed. If you had that to the formula + the command grab it could see a lot of use and it could be nasty.

As for his aerials, his bair, uair are both really good

His smashes are fast and strong. He's like a big Mario regarding forward and up smash, and his down smash is a better version of charizard's down smash. Forward smash and up smash are fast and big.

It really depends on the meta for ridley, he's gonna be an aggressive heavy with lots of range. I think he will definitely be Tier C at the least, mainly because of wave dashing being confirmed, good hitbox/range + little recovery time. I can see him being tier b, but again it depends on the meta and the rest of the roster

his only weakness is his size and recovery being slow, but he is heavy to compensate. The inkling looks much more solid as a character.

>>15016666

He's not in the demo so I don't have ample data. Here's an autist theorycrafting out of his smash ultimate character intro video

>>15016706

In retrospect, regarding Ridley's Down B, I think if left untouched it could be broken if people master the spacing + Wave Dash being confirmed. It depends if it bypasses shield or how much shield damage it does.

The best thing about Ridley is his aerials, smashes and tilts. I like the range and the fast recovery time. I think he will be strong, but still heavy with a recovery weakness. Could be even stronger depending on meta.

<trash bros

<<15016748

<TORfag

>>15016503

Shovel Knight feels like that person who shows up at every party uninvited then constantly boast of how "superior" it is and that it has a SJW feature to please the wrong type of crowd.

>>15015554

Would be cool if every character had their own mini Story mode level based on their home games.

>>15016511

They could work as a 2nd player, but that would be too much to ask

>>15016902

I'd prefer there to be just a level dedicated to each series so that it does feel like you're crossing worlds (And, some world levels are locked away until you unlock their respective character).

>>15015253

But it crashes like, every 15 minutes.

it's still fun as fuck though

>>15017059

>Don't know why GG didn't pay more attention to this

Happened over a year ago: https://archive.fo/kpgjP Other than that, no idea why.

>>15017069

>Master Chief.

Saying how well Nintendo and Microsoft get along these days that is not far fetched.

>>15017169

>and he's on my personal top 5 characters for Smash.

And the other 4?

>>15017169

>probably the biggest megaton character reveal in the serie's history

Doubtful that you'd be topping Snake's reveal, honestly.

>>15017176

Mecha-Ridley as an echo fighter

Zombie Ridley from Fusion as an echo-echo fighter

Baby Ridley from other M with an injection of X parasite as a Kirby echo fighter

Kraid

>>15017182

Considering the effort they went to with Snake, complete with codec conversation reveal at the end of a trailer, and then including codec conversations with the cast of MGS about all the different fighters mid-battle, I doubt it as well.

There's very few ways you can top that level of fan-service.

>>15017075

In any case, we should report it to the current GG thread and tell them what they missed. I can see some serious lulz potential that can possibly destroy the fanbase and reputation of Tranny Knight forever.

>>15017202

http://yachtclubgames.com/2017/03/designing-body-swap/

Here's the official site page for your ammo.

>>15017202

>>15017094

>>15017206

Perfect. This is gonna be the greatest fucking shitstorm in recent history.

>>15017191

>Are you fucking kidding me? Chief is the lead mascot of Xbox and it would have the impact of a Satan-2 nuclear warhead if he was revealed. A currently active competitor to Nintendo co-operating with them to put their lead mascot in the game? It'd be unprecedented.

You'd still be competing with the fact that Snake was the first non-first party reveal (remember, the series was "Nintendo All-Stars" prior to that) and that Snake is a much more widely liked character than Master Chief. For the record, I say this as someone who has no particularly strong feelings towards either character or their series, since both are rather out-of-genre for me, I just see a much more universal approval of Metal Gear/Snake than of Halo/Master Chief.

>>15017225

Also, didn't the Sonic reveal break some sites?

>>15017128

I personally enjoyed Shovel Knight.

>>15017238

I did too, and then shit happened.

>>15017318

I'd seriously love to see Vinny from Vinesauce's reaction if Sans or any other Undertale rep is in. He hates Undertale and doesn't hide that fact.

> Do you think they will add an story mode like the Subspace Emissary one?

No. Instead, I hope they give each character a series of "story mode" fights that ties up a personal campaign for them made of pure fan-service. Like having Link have to face-down all the other swordsmen at once, or having special win requirements like DK having to grab Peach (in a Pauline skin) and win by using his grab-carry ability to get to a "warp point" while trying to avoid Mario.

>>15014845

>>15014871

you guys do realize "epic" is a word right. Reddit doesnt own a fucking word.

>>15017392

"Reddit" is not in the dictionary

INVALID

>>15017407

Whoa… I dont have the EPIC comebacks like you do anon. Bravo!

>>15017361

If they had this with in-game collectibles like stickers, trophies and… I dunno, the coins from Coin Battle for a scoring meta game? That would be awesome.

>>15017427

Heh.

>>15015887

>Subspace Emissary is really fun to play coop

True, but I don't find it as entertaining as a long string of levels. The last chapters of SSE with the back tracking were really cool though.

>>15016213

Fuck yeah, I want targets with stages catering to each individual character and other funny bonus stages like the platform one or the race to the finish one.

>>15016447

There were also 2 new Splatoon ones based on the DLC

>>15017069

>Characters whose appearance was just a cameo, like Cloud

YES PLEASE.

>>15017191

>le ebbin pingas man

Can't wait to see him at the trophy graveyard.

since customization might not come back,

imagine if custom specials could instead be performed by more complex stick inputs. for example, kirby using ice breath instead of sucking by quickly pressing forward after starting to hold b.

would you play a smash game like that?

>>15015958

>Skarmory as a Ridley echo fighter?

But Skarmory has no arms and no long tail

>>15015729

You mean the infamous Travis Two knives?

>>15017191

I want EarthwormJim/Eggman/muhwarioland moveset fag to fuck off.

>>15017069

>Master Chief

>not Doomguy

Eevee has a surprisingly versatile moveset for Smash Bros. Swift for neutral B, Take Down for side B (Eevee bites your throat and slams you down while hurting itself, but also lateral pseudo recovery with no damage), Covet for down B to steal held items and a cheap quick stun because Sakurai will fuck Reflect making it another reflector, and Return for up B as recovery to not rip off Pikachu's Quick Attack. Most melee attacks will be variants of Tackle and Bite and made up moves. Extreme Evoboost + Last Resort will be Final Smash.

>>15018567

*lateral recovery if misses

>>15018567

Evee is already an assist trophy.

>15018578

>Assist Tophy

Try harder for a (you) bait poster. Had to look it up. Eevee confirmed Pokéball. Oh well. Decidueye it is then.

>>15014825

>About the new Smash Bros. Do you think they will add an story mode like the Subspace Emissary one?

>he doesn't keep up to date

Sakurai got triggered by everyone uploading cutscenes from Brawl onto youtube so no. No storymode again.

>>15014845

Also this.

>>15018595

Assist Trophy. Pokemon. Same shit. You're not very bright.

>>15018605

If that's the excuse again it's ridiculous because you don't need cutscenes for a rudimentary story mode like Melee had.

>>15015690

Sakurai also said there might be three third parties and that ATs would play a large part in allstar mode.

dont take his word at face value

>>15018632

In Sakurai's twisted, multiplayer-addled mind, the only point to single player was the cut scenes.

Even though Inklings were revealed as Splatoon rep, I can see Octoling variants as echo fighters to Inkling down the line later as DLC.

>>15018647

That's a Pokéball poke mate. Sorry.

>>15018645

Capcom, Konami, Square Enix. That's all three third parties. Shame Koei/Tecmo won't be apart of this but they're too busy virtue signalling to the FGC by censoring DOA6. So fuck 'em.

>>15018681

You can turn stage hazards off so almost all stages will be competitive.

>>15017069

If Microsoft were to get any rep it would probably be either Banjo or the Battletoads. I wouldn't be against Chief getting in though

More importantly, when will the sequel to the critically acclaimed and financially successful Playstation™ All-Stars Battle Royale, featuring well-known characters like Glowing Black Man, Large Father, and Indiana Jones?

>>15018774

When will the sequel to the critically acclaimed and financially successful Playstation™ All-Stars Battle Royale, featuring well-known characters like Glowing Black Man, Large Father, and Indiana Jones do what?

>>15018693

Just so long as there's no walls or walk-offs or something flashy that might get in someone's eye

>>15018794

My mistake, I was so excited over the wide array of very familiar pop-culture characters like Fluorescent Negro, Sizable Parent, and Nathaniel Hawthorne, that I forgot to ask when will we get a sequel to the popular Playstation™ All-Stars Battle Royale?

>>15018680

I mean three in brawl

>>15014845

>>15014871

For once it's being used semi correctly. Subspace was sort of an epic.

>>15015590

the difference between smash 4 and smash ultimate is literally the difference between SF5 and SF5 arcade edition.

Balance patches and new characters that's it. Game is a straight up clone with the same horrible ledge mechanics that are in 4.

>>15016261

>making the implication that people who actually love these games can actually get pussy even if they had a 1 g roll in their zipper in a whorehouse.

>>15015729

Travis is a definite possibility now more than ever with the new No More Heroes game coming out.

>>15017318

I maintain that Master Chief would be fucking incredible and mostly produce hype for the game but Sans and Steve would make the game irredeemable trash. I think most people would be excited for Chief and the negative reaction to him would be much smaller than the other two.

>>15019466

I mean, after the reaction to Cloud in Sm4sh? I dunno, I think there'd be a lot of people pissed the hell off. I know /v/ would be for sure.

>>15019466

The only chance of an MS rep showing up in Smash is Banjo. What would Mister Chef's moveset be? Shoot some guns and automatically recharge your health? Same with Minecraft Steve, what moves? Put down some blocks, swing a sword? Most of MS's characters are just bland, generic, simple things.

But I don't think MS would want Banjo in Smash, because it'd make a lot of people who don't know about the cruel fate of Banjo realize that he didn't just disappear, his corpse was raped by MicroShaft. It'd probably make a lot of people wish Nintendo had control of Banjo again. It's something I want to see, but I don't think MS would ever consider it. They need all the IP they can get, specially since they tend to rape and destroy everything remotely interesting they buy.

>>15019567

Please don't use the "what would his moveset be" argument

Once again, we are talking about Mashpotato "Fucking" Samurai.

>>15019578

Fuck you anon I just imagined a calarts cartoon having sex with a human Samurai.

>>15019567

Is Microsoft working on a new Banjo-Kazooie game? No? Then no Banjo Kazooie in Smash Bros. Ultimate.

>>15014825

It's going to be Classic Mode with 2 players.

Is Samus transgender? I want to suck off her. Do you think she would have a long slender penis or a short really fat one? I prefer the long one cause then she can choke me with itn

Is Samus transgender? I want to suck off her. Do you think she would have a long slender penis or a short really fat one? I prefer the long one cause then she can choke me with it.

>15019824

>15019820

Fuck off Brianna

>>15019622

Would you prefer if I called him Daddy Sakurai then

He has many names, you know

C Wizzy

Chad Daddy

Big Papi

>>15019567

>It'd probably make a lot of people wish Nintendo had control of Banjo again

This, god knows the amount of attention to detail and work that went into Megaman in Smash 4 made me wish Nintendo had control of his IP instead of Capcom.

>>15017075

>>15017202

>>15017206

this was already talked about a year ago and there was even a thread about it. How did you guys miss this?

>>15016511

>The Smash Bros use of amiibo is still the best one yet. You don't really unlock anything like on disc DLC, just a silly optional thing of training your own fighter that was fun.

Mario Tennis Ultra Smash has a similar trainable AI (tennis) partner, sadly it doesn't look like it will return to MT Aces.

>>15016542

>Animal Crossing amiibo Festival was a free game in Japan

You sure about that? While I still can't find any info about a free JP eShop version. It does appear to have had a JP retail release if this TV ad is any indication.

Though I have found this article from Destructoid mentioning that even at E3 2015 Nintendo's reps were saying that AF would be a free download worldwide before cancelling those plans and making it a retail amiibo bundle.

http://archive.is/OsxVb

>>15021571

it'll be in the reverse order of those images

>>15021581

Pretty much, Ubisoft I think resents Rayman for being the only good thing they've ever produced, hence why they want to replace him with something as characteristically French as the Rabbids.

>>15021581

Ubisoft is retarded, but I don't think it's possible for them to be that retarded.

>>15015887

>>15014825

>muh emissary

Who invited Movieblob?

>>15020822

You can't call other people tardbabbies while talking about how much you want Master Chief in Smash

>>15021640

Oh, it is. Believe me, it is.

>>15021647

Enjoy your last year at evo, Stinky.

>>15021669

>You're talking about Microsoft Drones.

Actually I was just talking people in general - Microsoft devotees obviously would like Chief more, but they also wouldn't buy a Nintendo product on principle since they've already built up a label for it as "childish." Besides, they're too tiny a demographic to really take seriously to begin with.

>>15021767

>but they also wouldn't buy a Nintendo product on principle since they've already built up a label for it as "childish."

It would be nice to see them having a mental breakdown over that.

>they're too tiny a demographic to really take seriously to begin with

My point is that Halo is widely known. For normalfags it would be

<Wow! That super important Xbox mascot got into that cool nintendo game!

>>15021780

>It would be nice to see them having a mental breakdown over that.

Eh, it'd be the same as any other time you see them breaking down because their parents won't buy them something.

>My point is that Halo is widely known.

Is it though? I feel like the average normalfag wouldn't recognize it, even in the West.

>>15021832

Really? When I saw he reveal trailer I felt like I was watching Brawl's reveal trailer and I felt as excited, and each minute felt better. The whole "all playable characters and stages are back" made me feel really happy.

>Project M

Figured, you just have shit taste.

>>15019176

It is in the unreal 4 engine, not even remotely a simple port job. Stop posting.

>>15021832

this is what happens when melee corrupts your soul

>>15021890

Smash Ultimate is NOT on the Unreal Engine.

>>15022112

Play Smash Legacy XP

It's Project M except it's not specifically tailored towards tourneyfags

>>15022112

And in case you WANT a version specifically tailored towards tourneyfags

>>15022112

Well, there you go, you already have your perfect smash game and dont need to play anything else ever again.

Now fuck off or kys like what you're implying in the images you posted.

>>15022119

Ive been playing that, yeah. A bit bloated with useless shit though, like did they really need to put in like 4 recolors of temple and have like a dozen versions of final destination.

>>15022124

>you already have your perfect smash game and dont need to play anything else ever again

Except I want more.

Thus the need for a new game with more content, but with PM's tuned gameplay.

>>15020822

>You're retarded. Eggman is the most important character in the Sonic series next to Sonic himself. On top of that a super heavyweight and a villain, both of which Smash desperately needs more of.

There is one important rule you're skipping: 1 character per company. Also every single faggot quotes his phallic meme, including the ones who want to give him a pointless lolli sidekick.

>>15021647

>Who invited Movieblob?

This place is filled with blobs masturbating to super mario enemies.

>>15022301

>rule

There is only one rule for Smash characters: They have to have appeared in a game on a Nintendo console. Third-parties like Snake and Cloud established that.

Also there's this too >>15022321

>>15022321

Does that mean Shadow will be an echo fighter of Sonic?

>>15022325

>Cloud established that.

His small cameo?

>>15022347

>Does that mean Shadow will be an echo fighter of Sonic?

Shadow could VERY easily be his own unique character completely different from Sonic, but knowing Sakurai if he gets in he will almost certainly be a clone ECHO of Sonic, because they are lazy fucks.

>>15022388

>He's definitely getting in if his assist trophy ain't there.

Speaking of which, has Sakurai ever said "If they are an assist they are never ever going to also be playable" or something to that effect?

Or is it just something people have assumed because thats how it has been so far?

Otherwise, there is no real reason an assist character couldn't also be playable.

Seems like a waste of effort anyways, putting work into making a character model and then just having them only be an assist.

Massive slap in the face to anybody who wanted them to be an actual character, too.

>>15022134

Funny thing, if the mod becomes accepted by the Fucking Gays Community, everyone would still choose the Animal Crossing stage

>>15022435

I thought Bayo was owned by Platinum, SEGA and nintendo are just producers.

>>Megaman and Ryu are both in and belong to Capcom

My main concern if they're going to add dlc packs of each non-nintendo IP

>>15022454

>I thought Bayo was owned by Platinum, SEGA and nintendo are just producers.

Pretty sure Sega owns the rights to the property, they just so far have been smart enough not to contract it out to anyone else.

>>15022454

>DLC packs

DLC is probably happening but it very likely won't be in "packs". They'll probably release every character piecemeal as they finish them. Developing characters and balancing them is going to be especially difficult with so many characters and stages on the roster so it'll probably take even longer development time between DLC characters.

>>15022479

As of Bayo2 its joint owned by SEGA+Nintendo.

https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/963264814251257856

>I've got something I want to tell you all. It's about Bayonetta 3. (1/15)

>We are a developer that creates games by signing contracts with publishers and receiving funds from them in order to cover development costs. (2/15)

>For Bayonetta 1, we signed a contract with Sega and received funds from them, then we proposed a design for the game and entered production. All of the rights belong to Sega. (3/15)

>At the time, our company had only just been established, and we weren't properly equipped for multiplatform development, so after discussing with Sega, we decided to develop the game exclusively for Xbox 360. (4/15)

>However, after that, one of Sega's trading partners ended up making a port for PS3, at Sega's behest. More recently, they also decided that a Steam version should be developed, which was released last year. Sega owns the rights to all of these versions. (5/15)

>When we started making Bayonetta 2, we initially received funds from Sega to develop the game for multiple platforms, but the project was halted due to circumstances at Sega. Nintendo then stepped in to continue funding the game, allowing us to finish it. (6/15)

>As such, the rights belong to Sega and Nintendo. The rights owners decided the game should be made for Wii U. (7/15)

>Nintendo was also kind enough to fund a port of Bayo 1 for Wii U, and they even allowed us to use the Japanese voice track we created for the Wii U version in the PC version of Bayo 1 as well. (8/15)

>I am extremely thankful to Nintendo for funding the game, and to Sega for allowing them to use the Bayonetta IP. (9/15)

>As for Bayonetta 3, it was decided from the start that the game was going to be developed using Nintendo's funding. Without their help, we would not have been able to kick off this project. (10/15)

>All of the rights still belong to Sega and Nintendo. The rights owners decided that the game should be made for Switch. (11/15)

>Game development is a business. Each company has its own circumstances and strategies. Sometimes this means games get made, sometimes it means they get cancelled. (12/15)

>But I believe that every single person involved is dedicated to delivering the best possible experience. I know that, to me at least, that's one of the biggest goals when I set to work. (13/15)

>I cannot express how happy I am that we get to make Bayonetta 3, and we intend to do everything within our power to make it as good as it can be. That's all we can do, and we consider it our greatest mission. (14/15)

>It took a while for production of Bayonetta 3 to be okayed, but now that it has kicked off, I hope it will turn into a wonderful encounter for all of you. (15/15)

>>15022519

Fair enough now how many of his Tweets after that are referring to this same set, or to Tweets that are themselves referring to this set and then telling people to stop asking him the same question over and over?

>>15022519

So does that mean Bayonetta no longer counts as a third-party or even a second-party rep?

>>15022415

>Otherwise, there is no real reason an assist character couldn't also be playable

Might get kinda confusing to have two of the same model running around, unless the player is using a palette swap. Although, I guess they could just add a special outline around the assist character to make them easier to distinguish.

>>15022723

There's a Knuckles assist trophy. There should be an &Knuckles event match where all assist trophies are Knuckles.

I would much rather have something akin to Melee's Adventure Mode, going from world to world with occasional branching paths and secret side missions that unlock things.

>>15015640

Oh boy, I can't wait for Sans Undertale!

>>15016213

This, fuck that shitty Angry Birds garbage in 4.

>>15023978

>A survival event where there's at least three Knuckles running around constantly homing attacking you.

That's just crazy enough to work.

>>15023978

New character reveal: Dante from the Devil May Cry series

>>15024860

I'd sooner take Viewtiful Joe.

>>15022112

>>15022134

You're arguing with fanboys who can't accept the fact that Smash Bros. has not played that well in a looooong time. They'll defend it to the very end no matter how much backwards design choices it makes. I hope Smash Ultimate actually plays well this time.

>>15026894

>Smash Ultimate actually plays well this time.

I'm pretty sure it will be 3ds 5.0. Jesus fucking christ, if they force you again to do achievements with shitty characters, I'll ditch it and get Mario Party instead

>>15014845

You are correct that Adventure Mode was superior, but the guy is literally using the word 'epic' by its dictionary definition.

>>15022415

>Speaking of which, has Sakurai ever said "If they are an assist they are never ever going to also be playable" or something to that effect?

No, I don't think so. While Little Mac is so far the only one to have graduated from AT to playable at this point in time since we still haven't seen all the returning AT.