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File: c31b14815470964⋯.jpg (2.68 MB, 2001x2881, 2001:2881, Grand Strategy Games.jpg)

ba7b7d No.15005542

Grand Strategy Games

Archive

>>>/sengoku/1

>Where do mods go and other info?

https://pastebin.com/dTCRqZuN

>Anon's Edits (EU4, CK2 and V2)

https://pastebin.com/VZumvXiR

This Day in History, June 16th

>1215 King John of England signs the Magna Carta.

>1389 Ottoman Turks crush Serbia in the Battle of Kosovo.

>1487 Battle of Stoke Field, the final engagement of the Wars of the Roses.

>1752 Benjamin Franklin and his son test the relationship between electricity and lightning by flying a kite in a thunder storm.

>1775 George Washington is named Commander-in-Chief by Congress.

>1903 The Ford Motor Company is incorporated.

>1963 Soviet Space Program: Vostok 6 Mission: Cosmonaut Valentina Tereshkova becomes the first woman in space.

a52bc3 No.15005837

File: 75077693a0849a7⋯.jpg (353.6 KB, 1200x1617, 400:539, edward viii.jpg)

Britain's decision to destroy Germany in order to prevent European unification is the reason Britain is, today, overrun with shitskins and ruled by marxists. Winston Churchill is probably the biggest traitor England has ever known. Worse than Cromwell. Also pic related should have been king, his trash taste in women notwithstanding.


6d9f98 No.15006057

>>15005837

basically this


02e14e No.15006428

File: c5707499595c84e⋯.jpg (291.91 KB, 986x761, 986:761, churchillpig.jpg)

File: 38b88fa087ba52b⋯.webm (7.63 MB, 360x240, 3:2, churchillpig.webm)

>>15005837

yes ch*rchill was a nigger


b7ff4a No.15006448

File: fca858f68d06ef0⋯.jpg (287.82 KB, 914x620, 457:310, anglo-jew.jpg)


4221ed No.15006605

File: 71b5cfb577f3037⋯.jpg (793.51 KB, 1278x1024, 639:512, dirt_march.jpg)

Rate my yurop.


02e14e No.15006649

>>15006605

you've only been playing for a few years theres nothing to rate


eb83b8 No.15006667

File: 634aef9c5ad5c14⋯.jpg (255.17 KB, 1000x563, 1000:563, If you insist _29edb542334….jpg)


39a911 No.15006676

File: 6d7cdc3f2bfa8d8⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 391.38 KB, 360x360, 1:1, SIMPLY_EPIC_BURN.mp4)

>>15006667

Why are so many countries hungary? Hard drive failed so pretend I posted an image of white Carlos. Also, someone post white Carlos so I can meme on niggers. Thank you in advance.


5c7d61 No.15006681

>>15006667

This is why I can't take Paradox games seriously.


a8eaf8 No.15006698

File: 3b2e0f3e1c84988⋯.jpg (30.3 KB, 234x325, 18:25, mw46408.jpg)

>>15005837

Was the Avro Lancaster the great anti-blobbing tool in history?


4221ed No.15006839

>>15006667

>catille driving the reconquista to 11 and gobbling up portugal

>france flipping the historical board and inheriting scotland

>white horde commpletely imploded

>muscovy and lithuania going wild

>denmark

>romans actually holding against the t+rks

nigger there's a lot to rate

>>15006667

There should really be a relations modifier based on distance and detachment. This could only be done in the HRE where there was the power of the emperor to watch out for.


02e14e No.15006853

>>15006839

your map is so fucking dark you cant see half the shit happening


40785c No.15006865

>tfw too pleb for GSG

Even CKII, the most entry level.


358b6f No.15006870

File: 48cac568b40cb4d⋯.jpg (194.9 KB, 1224x1445, 72:85, retarded.jpg)

>>15006865

>ck2

>most entry level


b7ff4a No.15006872

>>15006865

I dont understand what everyone finds so hard about GSG. Especially Nu-Paradox. You click de buttan, you get de mana, you paint de map


6004d7 No.15006876

>>15006698

Will anglos ever stop sucking jew dick and be raped by shitskins?


87fe3d No.15006942

>>15006872

People are just too retarded to play for a few hours and learn shit up. CK2 is probably impossible for many people just because they can't realize how raising your levies work. And so learning how to keep dukes and counts happy is even harder. Though if you learn those very simple things the game becomes a breeze.


4221ed No.15007416

>>15006853

>the map is too dark

>the fonts are too small

>my gf is still not done with jamal

>blue is too blue

>there are too many provinces

>my head hurts from the map

Is bitching the only thing you're able to do?


36cd03 No.15012252

File: 92f16140852c4c1⋯.jpg (15.74 KB, 480x360, 4:3, total war.jpg)

>>15006698

Pls do it again Bomber Harris.


98cb27 No.15012317

>>15012252

Did you know that people who say "Do it again, Bomber Harris" or its permutations will be burned alive for their affront in their lifetime?


f26b9a No.15012323

>>15012317

[RAF laughter in distance]


98cb27 No.15012340

File: 9d7e4d041b9667e⋯.png (1.04 MB, 1000x663, 1000:663, you_dun_goofed_harris.png)

>>15012323

I know, right.

Completely ridiculous notion.


1da0bf No.15012349

HFM + AE or B&I?


f65a5e No.15012385


a52bc3 No.15012429

>>15012323

>tfw some of those RAF vets are alive to see their daughters gang raped by mohammedan savages from the levant

Feels good man.


01fc35 No.15013310

If you could make grand strategy game in what time period would it be set?


358b6f No.15013349

>>15013310

Cold war.

;_;


6004d7 No.15013363

>>15012429

>*granddaughters

You suck the jew dick, you feel the muslim dick.


02e14e No.15013566

>>15013310

current year


838751 No.15013643

>>15013310

From somewhere at the end of the pre-Christian era to around the start of islam with CK2-ish mechanics, probably with a focus on the Roman empire and the conflicts surrounding the Abrahamic religions.


1b0075 No.15013734

CK2 now has killstreaks.

>>15013310

Ancient ME or late prehistory (PIE invasions).


1b0075 No.15013741

File: c7cbb7bfe60e7a5⋯.png (10.56 KB, 833x611, 833:611, a square.png)


4221ed No.15013832

File: afd5bee305ced8e⋯.jpg (213.97 KB, 1200x1112, 150:139, Terror_Antiquus_by_L.Bakst….jpg)

File: 719b40fb6647f96⋯.jpg (256.98 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, ImperiumStart.jpg)

>>15013310

Antediluvian with Atlantis n pyramids n shiet.

Completely and utterly unironically.

Situated on Atlantis Planet Earth. Maybe just maybe into the direction that Age of Mythology was going for. Maybe some subtle magic.

The final goal wouldn't be to blob your way into dominance as with the classics. At least not at the start. It would be to survive the flood or some other cataclysm by getting all the necessary resources/technologies/whatever and go underground/under the sea. Sort of planet wide geological Mongols.

Or to prevent the reason for it through some exceptional playing.

The blobbing part would come after you are underground/under the sea and have to start looking for other civilizations through digging/submarines. Sort of DF/gsg mash.

And when the things normalize you come above ground and start the final fight for the Planet.

Or a gsg, based on an updated engine of Darkest Hour/Battlefleet Gothic:Armada and put on 3D planets. Anyone that would attempt the touch pad design of StarDrive2 would be summarily executed.

Two scenarios:

1. Start in 2033 for the meme number and the race for Mars between USA, Russia, China, EU, Japan and OPEC. The race continues for the rest of the planets and you combine EU universe with HoI.

2. Maybe a sequel starting in 2133 with the story done similarly to TES: Focused completely on the Solar system(not a fucking 4x) in the far future with different planets, different adapted human cultures and technologies (either from a save of the first part or the "official" timeline). The main problem being the threat of war due overpopulation of the Solar System, no effective release valves due to lolno interstellar travel and weapons that could destroy the whole system. Basically 19. century Europe in space.

Maybe a prequel for the Starship Troopers universe and throw in 2001 Space Odyssey/Event Horizon-like ayy transportation devices, discovered all over the system and are the final goal for the top dog. And ayys coming out of cheap shit Chink knockoff devices and making friends with them due to being the same hivemind. Or commies/jews intentionally summoning Moloch out of Saturn's pole. Or just crashing everything with no survivors.

It should of course be done by pre-2009 Paradox. Or some unpozzed studio. No 4x elements past colonization in a hermetically sealed system.


0c7c28 No.15013893

File: 37ad3140a9e46f5⋯.jpg (158.94 KB, 1600x1600, 1:1, spurdo_the_I_during_the_ko….jpg)

>>15013310

Finno-korean hyperwars


c6054b No.15014176

>>15013349

I wonder myself why no one did that one yet.

>>15013566

It would be hard to do and I don't want to even imagine sheer amount of salt/butthurt about it.

Also setting some specific events set in future would be give the most of it.

EU turning into caliphate, some natural disasters with high destructive power and overall entire world politics turning upside-down and whites being running away to tundra regions or off Earth entirely.

>>15013643

That time period is completely unused for anything. Probably lack of written records being reason why.

>>15013832

>Antediluvian with Atlantis n pyramids n shiet.

>gsg based on an updated engine of Darkest Hour/Battlefleet Gothic:Armada and put on 3D planets. Anyone that would attempt the touch pad design of StarDrive2 would be summarily executed with plots set in close future.

These both would be interesting at very least.

>>15013893

Wouldn't it be some crazy mix of Distant Worlds and Dominions?

>>15013734

>Ancient ME or late prehistory (PIE invasions).

First one is good long period with Sumer, Akkad, Assyria, Babylonia and ancient Egypt.

I don't know how second one would look like though.


2d83f3 No.15014205

File: d53b1738484642e⋯.webm (7.95 MB, 640x360, 16:9, german history.webm)

>>15012317

>>15012429

they had to do it


70423d No.15015374

File: abfe005b8fa6997⋯.jpg (24.75 KB, 332x357, 332:357, abfe005b8fa69975ab2ac3fa89….jpg)

Is there a mod that makes the EU4 battle system less RNG cancer?


484ef2 No.15015402

>>15005837

>implying europe would ever unify peacefully

Even long standing european countries have separatism problems.


484ef2 No.15015423

>>15013310

Just to have something new and interesting, pre-columbian america, specially if theres mechanics that let you develop tribes and reform them into empires like some where trying to do before the spanish arrived.

If not, Bronze age.


358b6f No.15015427

>>15015374

>mod fixing battles

>implying the average paradrone thinks rng is bad

At most, you'll see mods fixing mana, but not things like combat or colonies.


70423d No.15015450

>>15015427

Well that sucks, I hated the battle system in 3 and it seems like they didn't improve it in 4 at all. They should've just copied Vicky 2's.


591be9 No.15015562

>>15015374

I think it's a single line in the defines to make the dice roll range larger or smaller.


591be9 No.15015564

>>15015450

V2s is even more random though, with the caveat that defenders get an absurdly huge advantage


a52bc3 No.15015580

>>15015402

Nobody said anything about peaceful unification. If Britain had stayed out of WW2, Germany would have been able to annex most of Europe's scientific and industrial core (Germany, Low Countries, France) and created a power able to resist America.


484ef2 No.15015607

>>15015580

That would fall by itself and you know it,

Neightbouring countries would get pissed off with time and people inside those countries would rebel more and more as time goes on.


a52bc3 No.15015616

>>15015607

Unlikely, given the EU is largely just a jew-subverted version of Hitler's long-term goals for Europe (gradual unification and centralization) and it seems like the only real problem the EU has is the kiked leaders bringing in shitskin migrants. Beyond that there's hardly been any real resistance. An EU equivalent formed by National Socialist Germany wouldn't have much trouble getting the already-fascist southern European countries to join, and you'd have most of Europe right there.


484ef2 No.15015633

>>15015616

Stop pretending that assosiation of states is the same as military occupation by another country.

The EU has its problems and dissidence being a mostly economical thing, imagine the shit-storm that a military enforced union would bring.

> An EU equivalent formed by National Socialist Germany wouldn't have much trouble getting the already-fascist southern European countries to join, and you'd have most of Europe right there.

Nigger, alliance =/= submission, noone wants to give their country to someone else no matter the ideology, while establishing puppet goverment to make those nations allies would be possible, uniting them would not, specially when italy wanted their empire and spain just wanted to keep on their catholic moralist thing going.

You see things in a very basic way if you think you can unite europe just like that, it would fall if done by force and fuck up if done peacefully like its going on with the EU.


2d83f3 No.15015636

>>15015564

they just do that for making a WW1 scenario that makes scense.

>>15015616

>centralization

do you think that is even a good thing? most rich and succsefull countries are the least centralized, just look how Spain is doing now because of it's centralization


a52bc3 No.15015647

>>15015633

Are you American? You seem like it, otherwise you'd know that European countries have been conquering each others' land and holding onto it successfully for centuries.

>alliance =/= submission, noone wants to give their country to someone else no matter the ideology

That's literally what joining the EU is, you dumb burger.


484ef2 No.15015671

>>15015647

Im a spaniard you fuck, contrary to you i dont live in the EU bubble that thinks the EU is a good thing, people in spain hate the EU and the only reason theres still political support for it its because it helps with trade and education.

>otherwise you'd know that European countries have been conquering each others' land and holding onto it successfully for centuries.

>le undefeatable germaniums!

Im saying it would fall by itself, revolts and rebels would increase with time.

>That's literally what joining the EU is, you dumb burger.

Except it fucking isnt, i dont see german soldiers walking around acting as the law nor do i see the goverment being a vassal of the EU.


2d83f3 No.15015764

>>15015671

>Im saying it would fall by itself, revolts and rebels would increase with time.

unlike what happens in HoI, even Darkest Hour doesnt portray this, it's annoying.


484ef2 No.15015779

>>15015764

And stupid.

For en example of this, see the french occupation of iberia during the napoleonic wars, you would get taht shit everywhere but in modern times.


358b6f No.15015799

>>15015779

Give a better example like Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation.

Or the entirety of kurd history.


484ef2 No.15015810

>>15015799

Those are all good examples.

And they were all against superior forces with techonology, discipline and tactics on their side.


d0ded3 No.15015869

>>15015580

>Nazi Germany

>annexing France

Nigger, what are you smoking? Had Germany won the war, it'd grab Alsasse-Lorraine and maybe the low counties along with a chunk of Poland. That's all they could realistically hold long term. Generalplan Ost is a fucking meme that has no bearing on reality, German autistic adventures in Norway and Denmark also wouldn't lead to actual annexation, and the notion that Germany would annex all of France is ridiculous. Just because Hitler did some wishful thinking about germanization of half of Europe doesn't mean it'd actually happen – if you think ANY culture Germany conquered would just accept being "germanised" then think again – you'd see partisan movements, popular uprisings, and people doing everything in their power to resist it and they'd do it for centuries. Or rather they would if Germany actually attempted this, which it would not – the public would want a return to peace after such a massive war, not constant bloody skirmishes in conquered territories. Germany would have annexed areas with large German minority + some areas of immediate interest and just puppet state everything else.


bfb6e6 No.15015983

File: 24c0d98f08bc57e⋯.jpg (135.43 KB, 1370x960, 137:96, smug eastern roman pepe.jpg)


1d44c0 No.15016022

File: f6dea4a2b98c01e⋯.jpg (107.21 KB, 772x817, 772:817, 1467398673326.jpg)

>>15013349

Speaking of, whatever happened to that modder led development of East v West?


98cb27 No.15016397

>>15014205

sell yourself for a joke.

It is the modern way, yes.


484ef2 No.15017919

File: 89f01b48b67595a⋯.png (2.23 MB, 1489x1068, 1489:1068, that feel when your millen….png)

>>15015983

Please, dont post things like that, it only makes reality more painfull.


d76249 No.15018097

>>15017919

then change reality and make Byzantium real again


484ef2 No.15018103

>>15018097

Anon, you cant make byzantium, the line of continuity between the roman empire and eastern roman empire was broken, trying to restablish it now would be greeks larping.


d76249 No.15018132

File: b69e1fc37ced388⋯.jpg (118.45 KB, 500x482, 250:241, a_shinto-procession-tsurug….jpg)

>>15018103

larping made the HRE anon, all of humanity is just larping really. you think nips really wear these stupid things because "muh honorable traditions"? no, they are larping as nips from the past, because that is their way of communing with their ancestors. lots of cultures do this. if we reconquer eastern rome and put every turkroach to the sword before re-establishing a larp Byzantium Empire, does it really matter that the line of continuity was broken? What was broken we will be remade. dont let the mistakes of the past demoralize you from fixing them in the future.


484ef2 No.15018136

>>15018132

It wouldnt be the same in spirit anon.

It wouldnt be the last remnants of the roman empire trying to survive, it would be greeks kicking the turks out of europe (wich is a good thing on itself of course).


87fe3d No.15018164

>>15018136

What will be different? What continuity was broken? The one of the emperors? Who cares. Dynasties come and go. The Byzantium rulers originated from all over the place. In the West we tend to live with this idea that the golden age has passed. But fuck that. If we remove roaches and remake a new state in which people will pride remember how they liberated the city, why wouldn't we be able to create a new great nation?


484ef2 No.15018169

>>15018164

>why wouldn't we be able to create a new great nation?

There you have it, new nation.

The roman empire is dead and nothing can bring it back, well, unless mount athos becomes an independant state or something.


93814e No.15020233

File: 028a943f7b634e9⋯.png (337.29 KB, 1300x956, 325:239, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15018132

>larping made the HRE anon, all of humanity is just larping really

You know, this is something I got to think about, lately. When you boil it all down, most names and naming conventions in history all come from people LARPing. The Kings LARP as the descendants of Jesus Christ & Co., in turn the peasants LARP as their own rulers by naming themselves like them, then at some point the arts become relevant enough that people start using those names in stead, or making them up on their own accord. A horse fucker calling their offspring Rainbow Dash has the exact same base reasoning than a dirt farmer in the early 12th century naming their son a variation of John or Mohammad.

And building onto your comparisons, Nips have only started LARPing as Grorios Nippon Peopre only some time during the Meiji era, prior to that no nip gave one single solitary fuck about the collective culture of their own stinking island, so much so that most adopted American, German/Prussian, Portuguese and Netherlander habits just because they looked cool and efficient (I don't really count the modern Americanization because it's really just due to the military presence). Byzantium itself is a bizarre joke parody of both Rome and the ancient Greeks, sprinkled with Orthodoxy and Christian worship that only existed because people were out-LARPing their Western counterparts and cared enough about their LARPing that they defended it tooth and nail.

>>15018136

>It wouldnt be the same in spirit anon.

Sorry to burst your idealistic bubble but all races and nations of the world have always been about utilitarianism and resources, only sugar coated with whatever complex system of beliefs they had to justify their acquisition. All our collective culture is a way for us to remember how things went down, how much better we are having it or should have it or will be having it and to reach concepts such as beauty and perfection via aesthetics, military doctrine, industry etc. And if you want proof of that look no further than to Prussia, a nation born out of a bunch of generals becoming so fucking strong that they established their own culture and stereotypes by steam rolling on anyone else. I don't think the people living under them cared enough about being a Prussian as much as to survive and enjoy the exploits and customs left behind by those that died before them.


6004d7 No.15020290

File: 6605c6ddf88cbcd⋯.gif (19.05 KB, 600x713, 600:713, 6605c6ddf88cbcd9f2b83bb44a….gif)

If you don't treat a shit-customer or shit-coworker the way they deserve it, but are actually polite to them, then you're larping as someone you aren't, just to keep your job.


b76806 No.15020894

File: fa8f1f9cf34ed1d⋯.jpg (97.4 KB, 342x479, 342:479, 62.jpg)

>>15015636

Spain is not very centralized at all


93814e No.15020960

>>15015636

Russia is very centralized, and despite changing its politics over and over again, it has been one of the most fearsome defensive beasts of Europe and Asia for quite some time.

China is the most centralized society of all time and they're a perfectly oiled, bloody, inhuman machine.

The fucking HRE was more centralized than the modern definition of decentralization, since the Hapsburg made it their bitch for a good century.

You want examples of good decentralization, look at Rome or the USA.


a352c8 No.15021358

File: 4a0ff81ca861378⋯.jpeg (52.09 KB, 920x517, 920:517, 04adf0cffde60028fe03f5f8b….jpeg)

We need a grand strategy game for the current conflicts in Iraq and Syria. You have the three big players: Syria, ISIS, Iraq. You have various smaller rebel groups along with the turks and kurds. Americans and Russian influences can be implemented.


337a88 No.15021458

>>15021358

special game mechanic whilst playing as isis including "The quests to acquire jewish money" and "how to fake gas attacks"


7407de No.15021970

File: deabd8090bbca6c⋯.jpg (925.85 KB, 2592x1944, 4:3, Bovington_Tiger_II_grey_bg.jpg)

Does anyone want to play Hoi4 coop with me?

I'll be German and you can be Italy, except you won't send hundreds of thousands of men to die in the Mediterranean sea and you also won't lose half a million troops taking Greece.

Reply back if you're keen, I'm a NEET with 8 hours I can spend a day playing so I won't drop out on you.

I have all DLCs and am on 1.5.3 patch


6ef061 No.15022569

>>15021458

Complete with "Create your own rebel group" where you pick the preferred beard and who is secretly funding them.


87fe3d No.15023861

>>15021970

>Does anyone want to play Hoi4

No.


fd954d No.15024239

File: fad66915811bafa⋯.png (282 KB, 600x338, 300:169, colour by numbers.png)

Did Paradox make any improvements from EU3 to EU4?


2408c7 No.15024316

>>15024239

Is this rhetorical question?


838751 No.15024398

>>15018132

>no, they are larping as nips from the past, because that is their way of communing with their ancestors

Isn't that literally what following traditions is though? Just roleplaying as your ancestors and doing what they did to establish a stronger bond with them.

I really like Shintoism, it's probably the only functional form of neopaganism that exists today. The "neo" part because I'm sure most Japs don't fully believe certain aspects of the religion, they're one of the least religious people on earth but still, they keep it alive because it's an important of heritage and if they didn't it would just get replaced with whatever form of Abrahamism manages to spread quicker; pislam or christkikery.


838751 No.15024401

>>15024398

*important piece of heritage


f01510 No.15024468

File: 9bb03f8775897ed⋯.jpg (36.27 KB, 640x360, 16:9, zDgb2GfRDe4PlWTEF89Z4kDOrm….jpg)

>>15021970

where are you from anon?

pirate or buycuck?

mic or just text chat?


bd26f7 No.15025451

>>15015607

A post-Nazi-collapse Europe would be far better than what we have now given that the destruction of the Soviet Union would mean that all the nations breaking out of the reich would be founded by nationalist movements untainted by communist subversive agents funded by Soviet intelligence.


bd26f7 No.15025459

>>15024398

Despite being a pretty devout Christian myself I am pretty glad the Japs drove out Christianity, because in all likelihood they would end up with another near-heathenry version of Catholicism


484ef2 No.15025709

>>15025451

I am not arguing if it would be better or worse, im saying it would never survive.

No european country would bend over and take it as germans goose-step around town and force shit on them.


838751 No.15025825

File: 0adc7db84d21ece⋯.jpg (55.96 KB, 968x681, 968:681, francis.jpg)

>>15025459

Catholicism is probably the worst form of christcuckery that exists. If any of them are going to convert they'd be better off going for some other, less semitic sect. Still, that's like choosing aids over ebola; they will both destroy you in the end, just through different means.


02e14e No.15028983

File: 8940b71ea7fe094⋯.png (245.5 KB, 1063x1063, 1:1, 1526589834857-1.png)

>>15025709

>germany wanted to annex all of europe

american education


a8eaf8 No.15029020

>>15028983

>trusting Mr "we have no more territorial demands"


538adc No.15029035

>>15021970

>4

just play 3 there's no fixing 4


484ef2 No.15029043

>>15028983

>im being retarded and you cant stop me!

Follow the conversation you dumbass, i wasnt the one that claimed that.


02e14e No.15029049

File: 0664880f60271f0⋯.jpg (89.66 KB, 730x542, 365:271, 1526237685642.jpg)

>>15029020

>not trusting the man that unfucked your countries shit

>>15029043

>dumbass

rude


484ef2 No.15029072

>>15029049

>rude

Then dont be, or ill bully you harder.


16f08b No.15029456

>>15025709

Except a lot of nations did, and a lot of nations on the allies side had fascist parties in as well, with the exception of the USSR but fuck the USSR anyways. You gotta realize, people don't really give a shit either which way as long as they get the illusion of rights and don't get slapped with massive taxes.


484ef2 No.15029475

>>15029456

People dont mind having a fascist govermentor party of their own people.

People care about being invaded, occupied and ruled by foreigners.


01eba4 No.15029500

I enjoy the automation offered in Distant Worlds, as it allows me to RP as the leader and JUST the leader… Not the leader, every general, every officer, a merchant, logistics officer, builder, etc etc. Any other games like it?


87fe3d No.15029597

>>15029500

Interesting. I haven't played it yet, but now you make me to want to try it out to see how the thing you are talking about works.


53b933 No.15029704

File: aec293f50de99aa⋯.jpg (165.84 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Megan.Leavey.2017.Bluray.1….jpg)

>>15024468

>where are you from anon?

Oceania

>pirate or buycuck?

I had the full version but was now recently gifted the steam version (no DLC)

>mic or just text chat?

text chat

You keen?


3d480a No.15029775

>>15005837

>hindsight is 20/20

There is no possible way to conclude this, a victorious Germany would have been a disaster for Britain, as would a victorious USSR occupying the whole of Europe. The reason Britain is fucked today is because of British leftists, starting in the 1970's, who pushed for more and more niggers because MUH ECONOMY. These traitors would have existed with or without Britain taking part in WW2, they have infested the whole Western world, including former Nazi allies, and even Nazi allies who avoided getting dragged into the war, liek Spain and Portugal.


6004d7 No.15029776

>>15029020

>trusting jewish propaganda


6004d7 No.15029782

>>15025825

varg plz stop using the internet and return to your pagan larping.


3d480a No.15029788

>>15029776

It's Jew propaganda that Hitler tore up the Treaty of Munich? Fuck off, retard.


bb48ab No.15030296

>>15029788

Reminder the Poles threw the first shots by fucking with Danzig.


3d480a No.15030314

>>15030296

They didn't fuck with Danzig tho, they just refused to hand over tehir only access to the sea for no reason at all, just because Hitler wanted it.


6004d7 No.15030336

>>15030296

>Reminder the Poles threw the first shots by fucking with Danzig.

They actually murdered a lot of Germans in the former German lands and drove them off their land.

>>15030314

Idiotic Jewish propaganda again. Hitler wanted a railway and highway connection through the Danzig area to connect both parts of Germany. He gave the Poles every right to use the city and it's harbor. If France and UK hadn't given Poland guarantees that they would attack Germany, Poland might have come to a reasonable solution with Germany. Instead, they were useful idiots for the eternal anglo to start ww2.


6004d7 No.15030337

>>15029775

>British leftists,

You mean jews and their bootlickers?


01b08b No.15030341

>>15030314

>They didn't fuck with Danzig tho

The P*les had a trade war with Danzig before the Germans invaded, in addition to committing a brief genocide of ethnic Germans.

>they just refused to hand over their only access to the sea for no reason at all

Hitler asked for a compromise with Poland, where the Germans built a highway from Pomerania to Danzig and into East Prussia, but of course, Beck the Idiot refused it in favor of the (((Allies'))) offer. In addition, Gdingen was a completely Polish seaport that they could use.


6004d7 No.15030349

>>15029788

Yeah, letting an ally of the ussr sit right next to you would be a very smart plan, hm?


3d480a No.15030360

>>15030336

>Hitler wanted a railway and highway connection through the Danzig area to connect both parts of Germany

Okay? It's not Germany, so "no".

>He gave the Poles every right to use the city and it's harbor

How generous! Except that's bullshit, the international community gave Poland those rights after WW1.

>If France and UK hadn't given Poland guarantees that they would attack Germany

They didn't, they signed a full alliance with Poland, meaning that it was GERMANY that started the war by attacking Britain and France via their ally Poland.

>>15030341

>Hitler asked for a compromise with Poland, where the Germans built a highway from Pomerania to Danzig and into East Prussia

>Hitler asked for a compromise with Poland, where the Germans built a highway from Pomerania to Danzig and into East Prussia

And why the fuck should Poland give Shitler anything at all? If Mexico said they wanted to build a railroad to connect Mexico City to Latino communities in America, how do you think that conversation would go?

>>15030349

The rump Czech state was not a soviet ally you moron.


033dec No.15030417

>>15030360

the danzig corridor was a historically german area. it and much other territory was unjustly stolen from germany and given to poland after WW1, therefore germany was well within its' rights to take it back by any means necessary.

additionally, if france and britain really cared about poland, why didn't they declare war on the USSR? the soviets also invaded poland, yet they remained on good relations with them and only declared war on germany; thus, they didn't really give a shit about poland in the first place, and were only using it as an excuse to get into war with germany.

again, the area hitler wanted, including danzig, was HISTORICALLY GERMAN, and only became polish after the victors stole it and gave it to poland after WW1. germany was being polite in offering poland the ability to retain sea access; it wasn't required either morally or practically since the land itself was german

also

>shitler

hang yourself, /leftypol/


01b08b No.15030462

>>15030360

>How generous! Except that's bullshit, the international community gave Poland those rights after WW1.

You mean the (((League of Nations))) which was completely weak and irrelevant from its inception?

>They didn't, they signed a full alliance with Poland, meaning that it was GERMANY that started the war by attacking Britain and France via their ally Poland.

Britain and France had wanted a war with Germany from the very beginning. They used the idiotic P*les to provoke the Germans, through murder and rapine, to fight them, so that the Anglos and French could enter the war and complete their genocide and enslavement of the German nation begun in 1919.

>The rump Czech state was not a soviet ally you moron.

>On May 16, 1935 the Czechoslovak-Soviet Treaty of Alliance was signed between the two states

The treaty of Munich didn't change that alliance at all.


2d83f3 No.15030540

>>15020894

they are in comparison to the rest of europe, all the disctircts taxes goes to the central goverment to be "redistributed".


2d83f3 No.15030571

File: e567d4f751854eb⋯.png (620.93 KB, 629x846, 629:846, grand strategy player gsg.png)

I get that as most of you people only know history from videogames since you are annoyed that the British intervened during the expansion of germany before WW2, these imperial mayor powers always tried to contain the political influnce and military power of each other since the XVI century.

>>15020960

USA is not as centralized as Rusia and Roman civilization collapsed so quicly because of the same centralization problem, and as you are using Rusia as an example i take you dont know how it's the actual political situation in Rusia, corruption is widespread and they are a country that only exports raw materials, also Putin is putting in only friends and family in charge of the state companies, its a feudalism that makes corruption part of the system.

Centralization always end up bad


bb48ab No.15030760

>>15030314

The Poles refused compromise in a tense situation, and at the same time mistreated ethnic Germans.

I'm not saying they should have bent over but the foreign policy of the Poles in dealing with Germany was retarded and saber rattling, due to the backing of the allies. They asked for it. Poles should have focused on the East.


3d480a No.15030789

>>15030417

>historically german area

It was inhabited by Slavs for FAR longer than it was part of any German state, and at the time of WW2 it was inhabited by Poles, not Germans,

>additionally, if france and britain really cared about poland

Why on Earth wold you think they cared about Poland? they cared about putting the mad dog Hitler down.

>HISTORICALLY GERMAN

but it was MORE historically Polish. If you were honest you would see that your own argument supports the Poles.

>>15030462

>You mean the (((League of Nations))) which was completely weak and irrelevant from its inception?

Sure. You know, the international community. NOT Hitler.

>Britain and France had wanted a war with Germany from the very beginning

Demonstrable nonsense. Why did they sign away Czech freedom, if they wanted war?

>>15030760

>The Poles refused compromise in a tense situation

Again, why the fuck should they? Some bully comes to your house and start demanding you give him half your garden, do you "compromise" or do you tell him to fuck off?


033dec No.15030820

>>15030789

the territory belonged to germany until it was illegally and unjustly stolen and given to poland as part of the peace treaty of versailles. therefore germany was not in the wrong to demand it back. furthermore, the area was historically german more than it was polish dating back to the 1300s, so no idea what bullshit you're spouting there.

they wanted war from the beginning because the governments of both britain and france were ruled by jews, who wanted germany to remain slaves of international finance.

germany offered poland many compromises and all they wanted was what was rightfully theirs; the land was inhabited by germans and the poles were slaughtering civilian germans living there as far back as 1935.

in other words, poles were murdering germans in an effort to cleanse the territory which was unjustly given to them and stolen from germany as part of the treaty of versailles, and germany was someone in the wrong for wanting that territory back?

get the fuck out kike, you clearly don't belong here.


3d480a No.15030835

>>15030820

>the territory belonged to germany until it was illegally and unjustly stolen and given to poland

On the contrary, it belonged to Poland until it was illegally and unjustly stolen by Germans, the treaty merely restored that part that was still mostly Polish to Polish rule.

>they wanted war from the beginning because the governments of both britain and france were ruled by jews

Explain to me why they stabbed the Czechs in the back then you moron. In b4 HURR because they are jews durr

>germany offered poland many compromise

No, Germany threatened and tried to bully Poland into giving up their land. Again, if I come into your garden and demand you give me half of it, do you "compromise" by giving me what I demanded?

>poles were murdering germans in an effort to cleanse the territory

Literally no evidence for this whatsoever, and irrelevant anyway since it is Polish land, if they want to kill Germans living there then they can do so.


033dec No.15030932

>>15030835

you earlier claimed that there was no czech-soviet alliance:

>>15030360

>The rump Czech state was not a soviet ally you moron.

and then you ignored when someone provied you wrong, so there's one lie you've been caught in so far.

moving on.

first, if you recognize that britain and france refused to declare war on the USSR while simultaneously declaring war on germany even tho both germany and the USSR invaded poland and the invasion of poland was used as justification for britain and france's declaration of war, then according to your own argument britain and france have no moral highground.

second, danzig in particular passed back and forth between polish and german control historically, however most of the rest of the territory that poland unjustly stole in versailles was almost entirely german thru most of its' history, such as silesia.

britain and france had the goal of subjugating germany to international jewish finance, this is why they left the czechs alone. if you're too stupid to recognize the jewish influence on their respective governments then that's your own fault, dismissing it with your 'hurr durr' bullshit doesn't change reality.

regarding your shitty analogy, a better one would be: if you occupy half of someone's house while other neighbors have them tied down, don't be surprised when they demand their house back when they untie themselves.

lastly, there's mountains of evidence for the poles slaughtering of civilian germans in the various areas that poland stole that had large german populations. you're a liar if you refuse to acknowledge it.

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/David%20Hoggan-The%20Forced%20War.htm

and it bears repeating that if you believe that poland was morally justified in murdering german civilians because "it's polish land", then you lose any moral highground since that very claim (altho false in the instance of germans being the perpetrators) is the reason given for justifying britain and france's desire to 'put down the mad dog hitler' as you claim, like the nigger that you are.

gas yourself you kike-defending retard.


3d480a No.15030996

>>15030932

>first, if you recognize that britain and france refused to declare war on the USSR while simultaneously declaring war on germany even tho both germany and the USSR invaded poland and the invasion of poland was used as justification for britain and france's declaration of war, then according to your own argument britain and france have no moral highground.

So? real life is not a videogame moron, "the moral high ground" is meaningless. Britain and France didn't care about Poland, they just wanted to stop Hitler after he had proven himself a mad dog.

>second, danzig in particular passed back and forth between polish and german control historically, however most of the rest of the territory that poland unjustly stole in versailles was almost entirely german thru most of its' history, such as silesia.

Danzig was a free city, it wasn't given to Poland. The land around it, whihc was inhabited by Poles as it had been for well over a thousand year, was what was given back to Poland.

>mountains of evidence

Sorry by Nazi propaganda is not evidence. Show me bodies.

>and it bears repeating that if you believe that poland was morally justified in murdering german civilians because "it's polish land",

Correct, Poles can do as they wish on Polish land.

> moral highground

Again, you are an infant.

> is the reason given for justifying britain and france's desire to 'put down the mad dog hitler' as you claim,

Nope, the absolute contempt Hitler showed by breaking the Treaty of Munich is why Britain and France decided they would have to stop him, come what may.


033dec No.15031020

>>15030996

you obviously have no interest in the truth, because when evidence with many sources is shown to you, you dismiss it as 'muh ebil nazi propaganda'.

you keep calling hitler a 'mad dog' even tho this insult is completely meaningless and does nothing to support anything you've said.

hitler had no reason to honor treaties which were forced on germany or which were intentionally written to put germany at a disadvantage.

again, you should truly kill yourself. the world would be better off without kike-defending faggots like you.


3d480a No.15031042

>>15031020

>hitler had no reason to honor treaties which were forced on germany

The Treaty of Munich was "forced" on Germany? Whatever retard, keep jerking off to your nazi fantasies and enjoy failing at everything in your pointless life you tard,


033dec No.15031054

>>15031020

read the next fucking sentence instead of cherrypicking you kike.

> forced on germany or which were intentionally written to put germany at a disadvantage.

dumbass, try to cherrypick one part of a sentence while excluding the second half of that same sentence.

go back to cuckchan.


bb48ab No.15031055

>>15030789

Because not compromising means war you dipshit. A war Hitler was offering Poland a way out of that WOULDN'T result in any land loss, just losing influence on the Danzig free city. The strip would remain Polish, what part of that do you not get?


3d480a No.15031072

>>15031055

>Because not compromising means war you dipshit

So if I come to your house and say "I want half your garden, you'd better compromise or I'll kill you", then you should just roll over and hand over half your garden?


033dec No.15031076

>>15031072

the land belonged to germany until poland stole it as part of the treaty of versailles, are you so daft that you can't grasp this simple fact?


3d480a No.15031080

>>15031076

The land was populated by Poles, as it had always been, as was part of Poland for longer than it was ruled by any Germans.


bb48ab No.15031094

>>15031072

Hitlee did not want direct control if the strip, he wanted access in the form of a rail.

Further, if the Danzig free city came under German influence, Poles would remain with access to the port


3d480a No.15031108

>>15031094

Why would ANYONE believe one single thing he said after Munich?


bb48ab No.15031111

>>15031080

Which land? West Prussia, especially Poznan, yes.

But Silesia? Hell no. Danzig? Also no.


6004d7 No.15031121

>>15031076

There's no point arguing with jewpigs.

>>15031108

>Hitler is untrustworthy but the western imperialists can be trusted goy!

lol.

retard


3d480a No.15031127

>>15031121

Hitler broke his word over a treaty that HE had initially pushed for, you would have to be a literal moron to take anything he said seriously after that.


3d480a No.15031135

>>15031111

>Silesia

Go look at a map of pre-WW2 Germany, and tell me where you think Silesia is.


bb48ab No.15031139

>>15031108

Because Hitler's anexation of Bohemia was cuntish but legal. The Czech gov agreed to it even if it was strong armed. The Poles COULDN'T be strong armed like the Czech.

Further, had Poland switched fully to being under German influence the Soviets would have been shit outta luck. As much as you might dislike Hitler, the one thing you can count on is hating commie kikes.


3d480a No.15031156

>>15031139

>Because Hitler's anexation of Bohemia was cuntish but legal.

The Treaty gave him the Sudetenland but assured the Czechs their own rump state, Hitler tore this treaty up despite being the one who proposed it and annexed the Czechs anyway, this act toppled a government in Britain and brought Churchill to power, as well as proving beyond any possible doubt that the people who thought Hitler could be dealt with diplomatically were simply wrong.

>The Czech gov agreed to it even if it was strong armed

The Czechs were not consulted, their "allies" in the West simply told them it was a done deal.

>Further, had Poland switched fully to being under German influence the Soviets would have been shit outta luck.

Indeed, in a perfect world, Poland would have joined the Axis and helped the Germans fuck the USSR to death.


19a390 No.15031158

>>15031139

>anexation of Bohemia

I thought he made Bohemia-Moravia into a puppet/protectorate?


bb48ab No.15031165

>>15031135

Patches of Silesia were given to Poland in WW1.

Not the majority, but some of it.


3d480a No.15031169

>>15031165

The small part that was Polish, yes.


bb48ab No.15031185

>>15031156

The way it went down was that the German gov basically invited the Czech PM to Berlin, alone, and Goering and Hitler treatened to bomb Prague to dirt unless he agreed to the protectorate status.

Again, it was dirty but legal. You couldnt make those threats to Poland.

Also, the lack of consultation was during the Sudeteland negotiations.


bb48ab No.15031194

>>15031169

Silesia was not in any way Polish for nearly 800 fucking years by then. At most it was Czech


3d480a No.15031221

>>15031194

Silesia remained German tho, so it's irrelevant. Yes the Soviets stole it, but that's not relevant to our discussion.

>>15031185

the Treaty of Munich was signed between the Germans British and French, the Czechs weren't invited and didn't get a say. The annexation of the rump state was illegal, since it was explicitly prohibited by the Treaty, and because simply threatening a countries leaders until they sign over their country is not a legal means of annexing a territory. I mean if you think it is, then you have to accept the Soviet theft of East Germany, afterall the post-war puppet German government agreed to it.


bb48ab No.15031229

>>15031221

The post war German government was not a legal government.

The Czech government was.


39011b No.15031299

>>15031221

>The annexation of the rump state was illegal, since it was explicitly prohibited by the Treaty

Who gives a fuck? Hacha agreed to it and died in an Allied, not a German, prison which should give you an idea of how seriously scoundrels like Churchill or Benes cared about their supposed humanitarian principles.

Germany rearming to a point of basic self-defence and indeed becoming anything more than a colony of Jewish finance was wholly illegal under Versailles too, should Britain have declared war on the Weimar Republic as Churchill demanded?


dd1b92 No.15032399

>Münich agreement

If anything, it was a show of what cunts Brits and especially French were. Anyone who argues with "Czechoslovakia was allied with USSR" is a retard – it was a contingency at best, as Czechoslovakian politics didn't aim towards the east whatsoever. On the contrary, all of Czechoslovakian inter-war policy was aimed at crawling into frog ass (and building little entente in the balkans due to Hungary). There was immense effort at being best pals with France, since France was regarded as both a superpower that could help defend the country from Germany (which was viewed as a major threat) and an example of that "western democracy" that Czechoslovakia should follow, as it had been under Habsburg monarchy up until then. USSR wasn't viewed as a power nearly as important as France, and communists were nowhere near as popular as they got after the war.

The strategy of forming various alliances against german and hungarian revanchism worked for a long time and Czechoslovakia even build large fortifications on the German border to further deter any aggression from there. But then Austria got Anschlussed – Czechoslovakia didn't have defenses on Austrian border and thus found itself suddenly exposed. Then Little Entente desintegrated and all hopes were directed even further at France – Czechs knew Germans wanted their clay. Slovaks knew Hungarians wanted their clay. But they hoped France and Britain would defend them, since they were their allies. Then Münich happened, but rather than being seen as some major evil by Hitler, it was and still is seen mainly as a betrayal from France and Brits. Especially when Cezchoslovakia wasn't even present at the negotiations – in its hour of need, it was simply informed by it's "allies" that it should get fucked and hand over its clay to Hitler. USSR then did some kvetching and said that they couldn't help due to not being allowed military access through Poland (something heavily used by communists propaganda later on, about how USSR wanted to help, but couldn't, even though it's bullshit), but with Austrian front undefended and both Hungary and Poland itching to also grab a piece, Beneš determined that resistance would be futile (to great dissent - many still view him as a traitor) and that was that.

Münich was a lesson taught to Czechs and Slovaks about the eternal Anglo and his buttbuddy the Frog.

t. Czech


cf6043 No.15033446

Best government for a bunch of /pol/acks in SPACE colonizing a planet?


591be9 No.15033694

>>15033446

Anarcho-Socialist Nihilist Police State.


842e38 No.15033697

>>15033694

I don't think he was asking for meme shit anon.


cf6043 No.15033707

>15033697

yeah. that was a real shit meme.


591be9 No.15033722

>>15033707

Was "best" in the question meant to refer to "best government to represent what would actually happen" or "best to represent the ideal that would never realistically happen", because I was going with the former.


cf6043 No.15033740


cf6043 No.15033747

>>15033740

wait really?


fff6d1 No.15033764

>>15012252

>protip, Bomber Harris didn't want to do it.


5c7d61 No.15033814

File: 1a34e1487965258⋯.png (1.9 MB, 1002x808, 501:404, 2018-06-20 21_35_30-Sengok….png)

I AM RANCE, HIGH-KING OF THE NORTH


3d480a No.15034634

>>15032399

>If anything, it was a show of what cunts Brits and especially French were

Brits and Frogs wanted to avoid another major war, yes the Czechs got fucked but they did TRY to ensure a Czech homeland still existed after Munich, Hitler is the one who tore up the agreement unilaterally. I mean hindsight is 20/20 and it would have gone much better for the Allies if they'd made their stand with technologically sophisticated and militarily competent Czechoslovakia instead of the hopelessly outdated and outclassed Poles, but OTOH if Hitler had been the man so many in the West thought he was (ie, honorable) then the Treaty of Munich would have been the right choice.


3d480a No.15034642

>>15031229

>>15031299

It is not legitimate to force a government to hand over their country, that doesn't make your annexation "legal" any more than getting a puppet to sign away East Germany made it legal. The double standards of you hypocritical faggots is just incredible, why don't you just admit that you don't actually care what is or is not legal, and that ANYTHING the Nazis sis was, in your view, 100% justified, not by facts or law but simply because you agree with their ideology.


3d480a No.15034646

>>15033723

>>15033723

Yeah why wouldn't you trust Hitler, afterall, he only openly and publicly tore up the last treaty he signed, that;s a good sign that he will definitely honor his offer to the Poles, just ignore all his rhetoric about Drang Nach Ost and how Poles are subhumans who need to be exterminated, I;m sure that;s just bants amirite?


b92e79 No.15034652

File: 2ffda8102e3213f⋯.png (443.83 KB, 600x457, 600:457, sheikh bomber harris.png)

>>15005837

Bomber Harris did nothing wrong


3d480a No.15034659

>>15034652

Yes he did, he didn't bomb enough. MILLIONS of Germans survived the war, Harris has a lot of the blame for that.


b92e79 No.15034696

File: fc137dfdf939b90⋯.jpg (168.2 KB, 500x745, 100:149, the german.jpg)

File: cb6a135270342ab⋯.png (433.51 KB, 1186x889, 1186:889, germans.png)

>>15034659

Der ewige german


661692 No.15034704

File: 56e5de17734991b⋯.png (274.35 KB, 800x2048, 25:64, 06000ced122c1e653e5f27a75a….png)

>>15034696

>perfidious albion trying to meme

sad!


3aa69f No.15034710

>>15034696

There were at least 500 suicides in Greece between 2009 and 2010. http://archive.is/gAphO I have also seen reports that indicate that the German impose austerity has increased the infant mortality rate in Greece and has been linked to rising rates of HIV infection.


3d480a No.15034713

File: edb6853973ef09f⋯.png (331.31 KB, 1142x1038, 571:519, britannia omnia vincit.png)

>>15034704

>being a G*rm

Desolation!


6c918d No.15034748

>>15034713

>worshipping the jewish puppet who killed more Brits than anyone else in history and single handedly lost the entire British Empire


3d480a No.15034758

File: f1abf882ef02f07⋯.jpg (217.51 KB, 1000x642, 500:321, britain endures.jpg)

>>15034748

Show me where I "worshiped" the fat drunken imbecile Churchill. Oh right you can't, because I don't. Here's an idea: try going by what I actually say, and not what you imagine I must believe, because you suck at guessing.


02e14e No.15034761

File: 25b0ecef8323ff1⋯.jpg (117.3 KB, 1200x1192, 150:149, doomedworld.jpg)

File: 18af5c85dae8191⋯.jpg (4.42 MB, 3700x2362, 1850:1181, europethenandnow.jpg)

>>15034659

>>15034652

>>15034696

enjoy the world you created


b92e79 No.15034765

>>15034761

>you created


6c918d No.15034777

>>15034758

>he doesn't recognize his own shitty images

If Churchill hadn't insisted on starting a war with Hitler you would have gotten an education instead of being locked in a prison with a bunch of somali children for a few years.


3d480a No.15034797

File: c1978573d106cbd⋯.jpg (189.69 KB, 497x712, 497:712, britain brings peace.jpg)

>>15034777

What makes you think I don't know what images I'm posting?

>If Churchill hadn't insisted on starting a war with Hitler you would have gotten an education instead of being locked in a prison with a bunch of somali children for a few years.

I went to a public school and I didn't see a nigger until I went to college, so…

Also, had Shitler won, Britain would have been crushed and Germanified, so I wouldn't have got an eductaion of any kind, since I would be dead, or, worse, German.


b92e79 No.15034800

>>15034777

>If Churchill hadn't insisted on starting a war with Hitler

Didnt you mean if Hitler didnt invade Poland, break Munich treaty, invade Denmark, Belgium, Norway, Yugoslavia, Luxembourg, Soviet Union and France?


02e14e No.15034802

File: 474de8644cbcfaa⋯.png (23.64 KB, 997x844, 997:844, anglosjews.png)

>>15034800

see this post:

>>15006428


3d480a No.15034813

>>15034800

Churchill only got the chance because Shitler tore up the treaty of Munich. It is 100% his fault that Europe was destroyed by war, had he simply honored the treaty that HE HIMSELF had pushed for, Britain and France would have stayed out the war and the Nazis and Soviets could have their showdown in peace. But no, he had to be a moron, and his moronic and totally pointless landgrab toppled the pro-German government in Britain and brought the fat drunken child raping faggot Churchill to power instead, and that was that.


b92e79 No.15034814

>>15034802

It was Hitler who declared all those wars tho, save for France with declared war on Germany after it invaded Poland with had guaranteed independence by Britain and France


6c918d No.15034827

>>15034797

>Also, had Shitler won, Britain would have been crushed and Germanified

Yes, the constant offers for peace really show his intent to "crush" Britain.

>so I wouldn't have got an eductaion of any kind, since I would be dead, or, worse, German.

You are German you retard. What do you think "anglo saxon" means?

>>15034800

No. I mean if Churchill hadn't deliberately sabotaged Poland in order to stop the peaceful end of the pogroms against the ethnic Germans living there, then Hitler wouldn't have had to invade. Notice how he only invaded the portion that used to be Germany? And then waited 12 days trying to negotiate peace, including the offer to give the territory back so long as the German people in it were protected? Learn a bit of history before all the kike propaganda permanently rots your brain.


3d480a No.15034841

File: b26cac858a2cf0c⋯.jpg (176.65 KB, 1024x671, 1024:671, anti english firechief.jpg)

>>15034814

Actually, Britain didn't guarantee Poland, they entered a full military alliance with her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance

Hitler ofc thought the British were as cowardly and treacherous as he was, and expected them to abandon their ally. This was not his first or last mistake, but it was probably his worst,

>>15034827

Ofc he wanted peace after he realized he had blundered, there was no possible way for him to beat Britain and he knew it, and having lived thru the hardships of WW1 he well understood the power of Britain's fleet to starve Germany. The thing is, he didn;t offer ANYTHING in return for peace, no restoration of Poland's pre-war borders, no immediate withdrawl from France, nothing. So expalin to me why Britain ought to have accepted his offer? All that would have done was legitimize his illegal annexations and make Britain into a global laughingstock. In b4 "but modern Britain IS a global laughing stock", that's not relevant to the WW2 timeline.


6c918d No.15034855

>>15034841

>Ofc he wanted peace after he realized he had blundered, there was no possible way for him to beat Britain and he knew it

He wanted peace before the war started, and at every point through the entire thing. When Britain was completely crushed and irrelevant to the war, Hitler still offered the same peace terms he always had. His private conversations make it clear he never wanted conflict with the rest of the German people living outside of Germany.

>The thing is, he didn;t offer ANYTHING in return for peace, no restoration of Poland's pre-war borders, no immediate withdrawl from France, nothing.

Yes he did. He offered full and completely withdrawal from all of western and northern Europe with no strings attached. You are pretty bad at this Schlomo.

>and make Britain into a global laughingstock

Starting a huge war, killing the largest number of your own people ever in history, and losing the biggest empire ever in history already did that.


3d480a No.15034868

>>15034855

>He wanted peace before the war started, and at every point through the entire thing.

Yes, he didn't want war with Britain, because he knew he couldn't win it. This is why he is a moron, he assumed Britain would simply abandon Poland, when anyone who had half a brain could have read the mood and would have known that Churchill was itching for a fight.

>Yes he did

He offered to withdraw from Poland and restore its prewar borders, did he? You know, the reason the war started? Oh, you mean he merely "offered" to "allow" Britain and France to abandon their ally and accept a humiliating defeat? Wow how generous!

>Starting a huge war

That's on Shitler.

> killing the largest number of your own people ever in history,

G*rms and Sl*vs are not "my people".

>losing the biggest empire ever in history

Protip idiot: Portugal also lost it's empire. The age of empires was over, nationalism had risen to the point where you could either fight a series of pointless wars with your colonies like France did, or you could grant them independence like Britain did. The fantasy that Britain could have held on to it;s empire, win or lose, is just that.


6c918d No.15034904

>>15034868

>Yes, he didn't want war with Britain, because he knew he couldn't win it.

And yet he did. Easily. Hmm.

>He offered to withdraw from Poland and restore its prewar borders, did he?

Yes.

>That's on Shitler.

LOL.

>G*rms and Sl*vs are not "my people".

Nice try D&C kikelet. You really should go practice on cuckchan for a bit before you come here.

>Portugal also lost it's empire

Nothing to do with WW2 Schlomo.

>The fantasy that Britain could have held on to it;s empire, win or lose, is just that.

Yes of course, you wanted to lose everything to a bunch of subhuman shitskins. Including Britain itself. All part of your master plan.


838751 No.15034912

>>15034797

>I went to a public school and I didn't see a nigger until I went to college, so…

Boomer please, of course someone who grew up in a 99% enviroment doesn't realise the effects of mass-immigration on his own country. You filthy parasites are even worse than the kikes you support. Crying about "muh Germans" as if having to learn their language is worse than your own people being raped and murdered by Pakis and your race dying a slow death. Good luck trying to dodge those acid attacks in the near future.


838751 No.15034914

>>15034912

*white environment


3d480a No.15034940

>>15034904

>And yet he did. Easily. Hmm.

You're demented. Beating the tiny BEF is not the same as beating the Empire. In fact it was so irrelevant it didn't even slow Britain down, and by botching the destruction at Dunkirk by letting that fat oaf Goering have a free hand, Hitler handed teh British a propaganda coup.

>Yes.

Yeah, no he didn't.

>LOL

Yeah why blame teh guy who actually and literally started the war for starting the war? Obviously it makes more sense to blame the people he declared war on. They should have just given him everything he wanted, right?

>Nice try D&C kikelet

Why do you morons always assume everyone who thinks Shitler was a tard is a kike? Are you really that lacking in imagination?

>D&C

As far as I'm concerned, "white" means "Anglo". A G*rm is no more white than a nigger or a Fr*nchman, the wogs begin at Calais.

>Nothing to do with WW2 Schlomo.

Exactly my point you fucking imbecile.

> you wanted to lose everything to a bunch of subhuman shitskins

"Want" has nothing to do with it, it was unavoidable, as Portugal proves.

>>15034912

>Boomer please, of course someone who grew up in a 99% enviroment doesn't realise the effects of mass-immigration on his own country

Why the fuck do you assume I;m pro-nigger? I want every shitskin and European in my country to be removed, Britain was 99% white when I was born and it SICKENS me to see how many dirty dark-skinned animals infest my country now. But guess what? WW2 is not the reason for this, this is the result of decades of economic forces and the gradual integration of global transport systems, something that would have happened no matter who won WW2.

>Crying about "muh Germans" as if having to learn their language is worse than your own people being raped and murdered by Pakis and your race dying a slow death

It literally is tho, I'd rather every single Briton dies than that they become Germans.


6c918d No.15034951

>>15034940

>why do you always know I am a kike just because I repeat ancient kike propaganda even normalfags stopped believing a decade ago?

Yeah what a mystery Schlomo.

>As far as I'm concerned, "white" means "Anglo". A G*rm is no more white than a nigger or a Fr*nchman, the wogs begin at Calais.

"Anglo" means "German". Do you even get paid when your shilling attempts are this bad?


1cf891 No.15035034

BIDEO GAEMS

POSSIBLY EVEN MAP PAINTING AND SPREADSHEETS


dd1b92 No.15035077

>>15034634

The right choice for everyone except Czechoslovakia, you mean. Still, few over here harbour hard feeling to Germany over Münich – it's widely regarded that we paid them back by deporting all Germans from Bohemia and Hungarians from Slovakia, and that we're now even. We never did get anything from Allies for their betrayal, though. In the end, it was the Red Army that liberated Czechoslovakia from Germany, not the Allies (which led to a huge surge of popularity for communists after the war), and people tend to hate the traitor more than they hate the enemy.


bb313f No.15035537


9c0e6c No.15036311

>>15035034

I don't know what you expected from /gsg/.

Does anybody here have instructions/pictures how to play Aurora saved?

I regret that my country fought on Allies side.

t. Pole


02e14e No.15036813

File: 65afcb75a9690c8⋯.jpg (641.78 KB, 817x4829, 817:4829, germanyandpoland.jpg)

File: 7d484018b88d432⋯.png (186.65 KB, 1520x291, 1520:291, german truth.png)

>>15036311

we could have been allies my man

gott strafe england


4221ed No.15039207

File: e807b1a603b3862⋯.jpg (834.96 KB, 1282x1024, 641:512, filthy_peasants.jpg)

Should I go for Prussia and become a kingdom or straight for Germany, remain a peasant republic and then go for drag nach osten?

+5% to morale from peasant republic, authoritarian family +5% discipline, 2,5 discipline from German ideas, leadership and quality ideas for fighting efficiency and army tradition, 60% education for 2,5% to discipline.

The German army is simply a murder machine that instantly K.O.s most of my opponents.

Would I need those Prussian discipline decisions on top of it all? Does anybody know how much they add?


02e14e No.15039351

File: 48ba45db6ff6e40⋯.png (50.2 KB, 450x550, 9:11, mein held.png)

>>15039207

do prussia first and then germany


5d52e8 No.15039433

>>15030337

Jews, bootlickers….the Labour Party…you name it.


f9a796 No.15039630

>>15031111

>But Silesia? Hell no.

silesia is polish duchy that gradually went under czech rule during polish district split

then it was unrightfully raped and conquered by germans

>>15031165

>Patches of Silesia were given to Poland in WW1.

no they were retaken in a series of 3 uprisings, from 1918 to 1920, every year. and considering that alternative was remaining in weimar germany, they were absolutly just

t.Silesian seriously i eat coal and wodzionka


f9a796 No.15039705

File: 0cf31dff62d8a79⋯.webm (4.5 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, madoka knows about the je….webm)

>>15034813

>Britain and France would have stayed out the war and the Nazis and Soviets could have their showdown in peace

there is no way this would happen. there had to be war after germany said fuck you to global banking. there was no other way


1da9c1 No.15039901

>>15036813

That other timeline would be probably better.


6004d7 No.15040062

File: 0a8921903927667⋯.jpg (112.03 KB, 1200x800, 3:2, 0a8921903927667c34440056bd….jpg)

>>15039630

those are some funny lies, my pollack friend :)

It's amusing talking at a mentally ill person though, they simply deny any reason or common sense at all. Like talking to a brick wall.

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

http://www.danzigfreestate.org/loeser.html

The mentally ill Pollak hatred against Germans knows no bounds, hm? They're almost Jewish in that regard.


538adc No.15040376

File: b218f137fd458f6⋯.png (15.81 KB, 500x488, 125:122, trust me.png)


b5f6c2 No.15040484

>>15040062

Nice sources you got there.

>Danzig Free State

Isn't that one run by some Australian LARPer faggot who thinks he's Prussian?


1da9c1 No.15040514

>>15040062

wew

I personally don't get where all that hatred from Germans came from.

t.Pomeranian


f9a796 No.15040548

>>15040062

sorry anon but it is the truth.

>>15040484

larping is the strongest force in universe


6c918d No.15040572


2409aa No.15045119

>>15039630

Silesia had been more Czech than Polish for 400 fookin years before Prussia took it.

And yes, Prussians tried to Germanize it, unjustly, but ultimately all they did was create a new folk that has influnces of both Slavs and Germans. In those circumstances, I'd sooner have given you guys autonomy


6ba9e5 No.15045470

File: 6e2c48e202234b4⋯.png (94.08 KB, 313x325, 313:325, smug.png)

>playing as Zulu

>finally westernized

>try to choose avantgarde tech school

>game crashes

Is the game trying to tell me something?


87fe3d No.15055828

File: b9d9aa67da257df⋯.jpg (92.9 KB, 504x821, 504:821, 1467113508299-0.jpg)

Wake up.


b5f6c2 No.15056369

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/imperator-development-diary-5-25th-of-june-2018.1107368/

>If you need more citizens or freemen of your pops, you can always promote pops to a higher class of society, where promoting a slave or tribesmen to freemen currently have a base price of 10 religious power, and promoting a freemen to citizen costs 10 oratory power.

>If you permanently want to increase a pops happiness, you can always spend some religious power to convert them to the state religion.

absolutely fucking disgusting

>Slaves - These provide tax income

what


9551b3 No.15056382

>>15056369

Shouldn't slaves be producing stuff, not be taxed?


484ef2 No.15056408

>>15045470

Yeah, that you need to go military-industrial and be stronk like shaka.


02e14e No.15056761

File: e1e0e0ec2416760⋯.webm (466.73 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, short heda.webm)


d0ded3 No.15056767

File: 09a69341984806d⋯.png (230.14 KB, 412x400, 103:100, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15056369

>literal magic used to convert people and to civilise barbarians

>slaves provide tax income because parajews are too lazy to implement a mechanic where patricians make more money using slaves and thus provide more tax

>fucking pop mechanics LITERALLY lifted out of Civilization


4b41db No.15056800

>>15056369

It is literally EU:Rome without barbarians and with mana.


5c8637 No.15056820

It will be another meme game like HoI4, calling it now. Zero depth but plenty of ahistorical what if bullshit. Let's form the HRE 800 years early as a Germania tribe xD xD


838751 No.15056997

>>15056820

I can't wait to form my Hindu-Iberian empire and wage wars against the Judeo-Turkic citystates of Persia.


591be9 No.15057029

>>15056369

Forum:

>Goddamnit Paradox why are you so obsessed with mana?

<Johan: Cause it is a great mechanic, and the best feature from Vicky2.

xD


591be9 No.15057033

>>15057029

>>15056369

But seriously, all they needed to do was make National Focuses from V2 but have them consume mana while running. Have normal pop promotion and demotion with mana only an accelerator, rather than a retarded "click button to instantly civilize 100k barbarians" shit.

I can already see the new system leading to ridiculous scenarios where players will have provinces of 100% citizens w/ research buildings, other provinces of 100% freemen w/ manpower buildings, and provinces of 100% slaves w/ income buildings.


5fdd7d No.15059909

I can't find any links for HoI3 Black Ice 8.6.


591be9 No.15060480

>>15059909

Lucky you.


5fdd7d No.15061084

>>15060480

Not really, I get to try 8.4 instead. Since no way in Hell I'm trying BALCK-er-ICE. These fuckers use Fakebook for their mod page now.

Living the meme.


0773f2 No.15061147

File: 63435533fc6d842⋯.jpg (102.88 KB, 629x594, 629:594, help.jpg)

is it worth buying, /gsg/


7aca31 No.15061669


484ef2 No.15061687

>>15061147

No, sail with the black sails lad.


78e226 No.15061707

File: 025fe28dbbe2c93⋯.png (11.03 KB, 418x358, 209:179, 1464159775523.png)

>>15056369

>where promoting a slave or tribesmen to freemen currently have a base price of 10 religious power, and promoting a freemen to citizen costs 10 oratory power.

>this misguided view of the Roman system of governance

>this misguided view of ancient polytheism

>this muh magic points that we named through a random pick

Can't wait for Vicky 3.


78e226 No.15061716

File: ef0356303039996⋯.jpg (17.39 KB, 255x353, 255:353, ef03563030399961fadaec41ae….jpg)

>>15061147

>234€


dd1b92 No.15062642

File: 5bf4630b5b7856f⋯.jpg (538.5 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_4.jpg)

PANSLAVISM


b92e79 No.15062672

>>15062642

Anex the blue blob and free the polish minority in germany

After all western slavs must be united too


e19e11 No.15062718

>>15062642

>Finland annexed

Fucking disgusting


df62fc No.15062766

>>15061707

Vicy3 will be the first multiplatform GSG, available on PC, consoles and Ouya. It'll be streamlined to there's only Economic Capital, Social Capital and Cultural Capital. No boring money to manage, going into negative EC just causes bad events. SC is used to upgrade pops (Streamlined to Blue Collar, White Collar, Rich) and CC is used for research.


890976 No.15062840

>>15062766

>3 resources

Wow, complicated much? What do you take me for? A "gamer"? A true vicky 3 will feature a series of bars that will tell you all you need to know, higher bars are good, lower bars are bad, let me show you the True Vicky 3 Experience:

>Battle: your army mana bar must be a pixel higher to win, what determines this doesn't matter, just get it higher to win.

>Economy: higher factory bars equals better things happenning!

>Politics: Higher bar means higher communism which in turn means better society, also, fascist/nationalist tendencies immediately ensures penalties

Also, fuck money because capitalism=bad always and forever, and it complicates gameplay even further so we don't really need it. There will also be immigration events, refusing them will also ensure permanent penalties.


000000 No.15062914

>>15061707

Even compared to their past mistakes, this is next level stupid. I would love to hear their historical foundation for these choices. Paradox should just make the player a wizard and make the mana into literal mana.


bd26f7 No.15063009

>>15062914

>>15062840

>>15062766

I just PRAY they are, by some miracle, competent enough to replicate the pops and economy from 2, despite losing the programmer who did those (Chris King). All else can be fixed with mods, which they have actually been good at improving the tools for.


bd26f7 No.15063014

>>15062642

>that Tsargrad

Russia really needs a baby boom so they can make that a reality once they're a billion strong


dd1b92 No.15063029

>>15062672

the blue blob is zapadoslavia - a state for Czechs, Slovaks and Poles. Yellow thing next to it is Lusatia


dd1b92 No.15063130

>>15062718

Finns can now easily and without any borderchecks join their brethren in Siberia; I don't know what makes you angry about this.

>>15063014

I couldn't leave it in the hands of communist Turks, could I? I also built the Panama Canal just to fuck with Yankees.


3f7a51 No.15063161

>>15062642

Good now take Poland, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia.


df62fc No.15063167

File: b7ee9dce1366a46⋯.png (6.67 KB, 200x233, 200:233, download.png)

>>15062914

Speaking of wizards and mana, I've always had this idea of a mix between Dwarf Fortress, Sim Tower and The Diskworld. You are an archwizard who wants to be build his own wizard tower/academy so you settle close to some village and start magically creating rooms. Your tower attracts other wizards and people wanting to learn magic. Each wizard belongs to a school and is simulated like a dwarf in DF. The different schools all have different needs and tendencies and they all hate each other more or less, so you must make sure they don't fight each other. You know, don't put the Fire Wizard School right next to the Ice Wizard Lounge or you might cause trouble.

Goal is to stay archwizard for as long as possible by any means necessary. So you could turn into a Lich or brew longevity potions what have you.

Then you can also interact with your neighbors a bit, like the townsfolk asking for your help with sick cattle and giving you building materials in return. Or you could go full tyrant on them and basically enslave them to your will.


dd1b92 No.15063212

>>15063161

I govern those through puppets of my own making.


591be9 No.15063276

>>15063009

The M&T guys have basically replicated V2 in EU4. If Paradox would just hire them we could get a V3 w/ functioning economy that doesn't run at the speed of shit like M&T does thanks to being 100% implemented in scripting.


bd26f7 No.15063403

>>15063276

M&T genuinely makes EU4 fun, a feat I used to think utterly impossible.

It's such a shame that it runs like shit and is insanely unstable. Still put a lot of time into it though.

It's like a window into another timeline where everything went right and Paradox didn't become shit


890976 No.15063570

>>15063009

Even if you apply "mods will fix it" mentality, it will not ensure a pleasant experience. Case in point: HOI4.

That game is something of a guilty pleasure of mine because, while I can extract all sorts of ebin meemees and fuck around with every mod under the sun, it doesn't take away from the fact that the flaws always remain in some form or another. No matter how many modded vehicles, events, resource rebalancing and other elements you can cram in there, it still feels off and has problems you can't ignore. Stuff like the retarded AI, the piss-poor implementation of infrastructure, the mana bars, the awful optimization at late game among others will always stay there, no matter the mods available.

While expansions have somewhat solved some of the issues, I'm sure as hell not okay with the idea of paying for fixes to a flawed game and fuel paradox's craving for 30+ dlc packs for the "optimal" experience, which I'm pretty sure will become the exact same scenario that will pan out if Vicky 3 makes an appearance.


dd1b92 No.15063607

>>15063403

>>15063276

It's pretty impressive what M&T did since 2.0. Before then it was just a ridiculously bloated mod that didn't actually all that much of worth and everyone played VeF, but then they did the estates thing and more.


dd1b92 No.15063613

>>15063570

I wouldn't mind the DLCfest (since I pirate it all anyway) if the DLCs actually fixed their fucking games rather than just added content bloat


bd26f7 No.15063759

File: 0863b401fbc2f16⋯.png (1.97 MB, 1694x894, 847:447, postapoc.png)

File: 33a80c07adaf34f⋯.png (325.69 KB, 1360x2190, 136:219, 1s0FAOUZKUgaukyMZBr0I1DYAM….png)

>>15063570

HoI4 is the guiltest of pleasures for me. I hate it at a fundamental, almost religious level, but I still enjoy Kaiserreich.

Also the 'The New Order' looks pretty slick.


dc859e No.15063905

>>15063759

>uk and france partitioned

>burgundian blob getting part of normandy and southern france

>puppet netherlands, denmark and norway

>leningrad existing

>russian state existing

>turkish azerbaijan and syria

>black sea cut off from the med

>spain getting anything, much less fucking portugal

what the absolute fuck


dd1b92 No.15064013

File: c218ff929587b0f⋯.jpg (629.65 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_5.jpg)

What the actual fuck. Did Paradox put dank memes in its games even back then, or is this from HFM?


6004d7 No.15064072

>>15040548

Pollaks are almost as deluded as Jews, hm? With all the mistaking their fantasies for reality.


cff3af No.15064077

CK2 update fucking when?

>>15063759

>>15063905

I'm confused as to how Italy holds all that land except for Greece, let alone Constantinople, when Mussolini was so eager to have Rome 2.0.


848c9b No.15064081

>>15064013

I think it was added in the HOD expansion.


1b6aee No.15064109

>>15064077

I'm assuming it's based on the Greek Free State. But, of course, we're dealing with HOI4. There's no such thing as quality or historical accuracy here.


dd1b92 No.15064152

>>15064077

Don't look too deep into it – they were retarded enough to drain the mediterranean AFTER winning the war, so you can't expect much from them


3f7a51 No.15064214

>>15063759

>that Adriatic

Nani the fuck?


4b41db No.15064666

>>15063759

>>15063759

The two images have nothing to do with each other, right?


bd26f7 No.15064847

>>15064666

the events are for post-nuclear-holocaust in the mod, the right is a unofficial map

>>15064214

>>15063905

gibraltar dam meme

>>15064077

Muss got ditched by the Germans and formed a pact with Spain and Turkey


838751 No.15064940

>>15064072

Yup, they have this weird anti-natsoc yet ultra-nationalist cult built around their perception of history. They're kind of like Anglo nationalists: they might hate jews but they also hate Germans with a passion because they know they will never surpass their Aryan greatness.


8bc9f7 No.15065035

Why do grand strategy games have as much gameplay as excel?


890976 No.15065066

>>15065035

>not understanding the bliss of painting maps for the ebic meems


484ef2 No.15065096

File: 76eabfdf46fffc4⋯.jpg (61.28 KB, 544x704, 17:22, wheres the kebab.jpg)

>>15065066

Better yet.

>not understanding the bliss of removing kebab through a thousand years of human history


93814e No.15065215

>>15063759

>Mediterraneum gets drained

>but the Black Sea is intact

>Cornwall is a country

>The absolute state of France

>No Portugal

>Two hundred Russian states instead of dividing them into their main ethnic group or in a Muscovy - Novogorod - Siberia - Caucasus fashion

What in the absolute fuck is going on, this is the exact kind of shit the (((UK and France))) did during decolonization


3f7a51 No.15065249

File: e3a93002e35f733⋯.jpg (91.76 KB, 640x936, 80:117, 1454555497694.jpg)

>>15065096

This tbh.


484ef2 No.15065279

File: 79021739ea56181⋯.jpg (213.39 KB, 1600x478, 800:239, knights through time.jpg)

>>15065249

>removing kebab from iberia

>removing kebab from the balkans

>removing kebab from the mediterrean

>removing kebab from the barren wastelands of central asia

>removing kebab from south america

A noble genre for noble people.


890976 No.15065314

>>15065279

>patches continue to stack buffs on the kebab because muh ottomans

How do you take this? As an insult or as a challenge?


207514 No.15065315

>>15065035

Why aren't you autistic enough to enjoy them?

>>15063759

That's most retarded political map I have ever saw and I blobbed into majority of North Eurasia from fucking Kamchatka in one tribe at EU4.


85ffaa No.15065326

File: 9e53db471569444⋯.jpg (69.94 KB, 506x526, 253:263, 9e53db471569444400cd9b9470….jpg)

>>15063759

>cornwall

>two frances

>united iberia

>atlantropa

>turkey holding some parts of the fertile crescent and the caucasus

>russian warlord states, one of them is fucking nazbol

>communist african nation

>some sort of greater liberian state

>three german african states and not just madagascar for the jews

what the fuck man


484ef2 No.15065334

File: a77e38a78637ada⋯.jpg (1.49 MB, 1222x1472, 611:736, St_George.jpg)

>>15065314

At this point a challenge, they know people love playing as BYZ and defeating the ottomans against all odds, hence they get triggered that their dumb AI cant even defeat a doomed nation and keep buffing the boy-molesting fucks.

Whenever i remove them, i always like to leave all the non-roman borders as muslim reservoir, i like the idea of all pius muslims being exhiled to the deserts of that peninsula and struggling to even feed the population.


bd26f7 No.15065656

>>15065215

>>15065326

Cornwall is the base of operations for the German garrison of GB

The Russian map is out of date - Russia is split into a bunch of warlords and some huge meme factions, one being the Dirlewanger brigade which went rogue. They also get occasionally carpet-bombed by the Luftwaffe for like 1000km past the Urals


76ec5c No.15065911

What CK2 DLCs should be disabled? I've heard that several of them make the game outright worse.


bd26f7 No.15065986

>>15065911

Sunrise invasion introduces a retarded Aztec invasion of Europe in the 1300s

Some people prefer to turn Conclave off because having to manage the council means you can't always do what you want

And Monks and Mystics introduces a bunch of retarded shit like Satanic cults (though this can be turned off via the game rules)


842e38 No.15066002

>>15065986

The Aztec invasion can also be turned off via game rules.


5fdd7d No.15066861

File: bf67bee52e17dee⋯.png (2.18 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_30.PNG)

I'm still getting my shit sorted, my tech research hasn't gone too well. I forgot medicine, which lead to a few outbreaks. I focused mainly on research/education techs. Then I tagged a bunch of factory related techs, and now I'm trying to bail my ass out with prestige spam.

Afterwards, might either go with National Focus/Ideological/railways. Or, instead focus on building up my outdated military & naval tech.


dd1b92 No.15068652

>>15066861

>1871

>still haven't recovered cores

Nigger what are you doing? You'll never restore the Roman Empire at this rate :^)

Seriously, though, just ally Russia and stomp the kebab already


5fdd7d No.15068807

File: 58431a81785ef3c⋯.png (2.02 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_54.png)

>>15068652

Russia sphered me, so that's a maybe, but a missed chance due to my delayed army build up; they're allied with the N.G.F. now.


5fdd7d No.15068878

File: 657e6b8eea5c994⋯.png (2.24 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_39.png)

File: cf5e0c49ac85dc6⋯.png (2.31 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_46.png)

File: 16f64a6e7b159a2⋯.png (1.39 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, v2_51.png)

A few interesting notes; my colonies are just lovely. Sweden's in the Congo. And Bavaria became a Great Power, supplanting Denmark.


6004d7 No.15068925

>>15065096

>>not understanding the bliss of sucking kebabdick through a thousand years of human history

Not to mention starting a world war and helping commie pigs enslave eastern europe. Serbroaches have quite some history, hm?


93814e No.15068998

>>15068878

Research all the Philosophy shit for

MAXIMUM INSIGHT


484ef2 No.15069000

>>15068925

I wasnt talking specifically about serbians.

By your butthurt i assume youre from the balkns aswell.


bd26f7 No.15069272

>>15069000

checked

>tfw you like all the Christian Balkan countries but they all hate each other

feels sad man


87fe3d No.15070301

File: ccbd5a77772b5d3⋯.jpg (340.26 KB, 1605x963, 5:3, Untitled-2.jpg)

Anon's Edits guy. The version of your submod doesn't work with the newest version of the mod. You should post links in the text files with the correct mod versions. Less likely to get reported like that.


484ef2 No.15070339

>>15069272

I know how you feel.

I too like the balkan countries but they hate each other and everyone else.


70fd12 No.15071296

>>15070301

But the latest version of my HFM edits works for HFM 1.27i, been like that for a while.

Are you using this HFM? https://github.com/SighPie/HFM


514964 No.15073029

>>15068807

It's better to attack Kebab right away before they got sphered by any major power and while Russia is still strong. Ideally some times after the Crimean War. Otherwise, by the time the Congress of Berlin happens usually in the late 70s and early 80s, the Sick Man of Europe will ally themselves to the NGF / the German Empire and becomes a tough nut to crack. Russia can steamroll Kebab on their own, but it's not so easy with Germans pushing on their western border trying to save the Ottomans. Go for Ideological Thought first for plurality to speed up research. Then rush Medicine and Inorganic Chemistry to boost your pop growth and then you can research military techs and RGO boosting techs to get more money. Also, you can easily snatch Crete during the Oriental Crisis.


87fe3d No.15073038

>>15071296

Notice how it says "1.27F Beta".


ff89a5 No.15073447

>>15006876

don't group us Americans in with that shit. that is not us.


ff89a5 No.15073450

>>15068925

>Serbroaches

you mean Analbanians


ff89a5 No.15073453

>>15063759

the only reason I like it because of a) the amount of modding capabilities and b) its the most modern of the games, aside from Stellaris, which is the future. problem is I have no idea whether Stellaris is even worth it.


ff89a5 No.15073456

>>15062642

holy shit


70fd12 No.15073951

File: eb1bfc3e13191f4⋯.png (61.72 KB, 1257x810, 419:270, Untitled.png)

>>15073038

It might say 1.27F Beta down there, but the current version is 1.27i, been that way for months.


87fe3d No.15074093

>>15073951

Nigga, it is what I downloaded and used.


87eaf0 No.15075155

>>15063167

I'll get started on the logo


8a2b40 No.15075288

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>post yfw grand strategy boomers are literally too retarded to play Hearts of Iron 3


87fe3d No.15075365

>>15075288

Why are you linking to jewtubers? Not even using hooktube.


838751 No.15075640

>>15075365

He's probably a cuckchanner who got lost.


78e226 No.15075685

File: d8f3ad08ceb630f⋯.gif (119.48 KB, 432x412, 108:103, d8f3ad08ceb630fdc96cb946e5….gif)

>>15063570

>That game is something of a guilty pleasure of mine

>>15063759

>HoI4 is the guiltest of pleasures for me.

You two should leave. Anyone enjoying that dogshit game should be ashamed of himself. The cringy screenshots just proved that.

>tfw you'll never play upgraded Darkest Hour

>tfw you watch the series that you played the most out of all Paradox titles burn for filthy normalfags that enjoy playing a gsg iteration of Mario Paint with mana


6004d7 No.15075703

>>15075288

stop advertising your shitty jewtube channel, faggot


5fdd7d No.15076770

File: c1eb683ab2d6baa⋯.png (2.56 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_1.png)

File: b849864bc852453⋯.png (1.09 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_12.png)

File: 62a68a3e848f5b2⋯.png (2.51 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_13.png)

File: c8145af62affd66⋯.png (1.05 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_14.png)

So, I decided to try Falvour Mod. And this happened.


8a2b40 No.15077122

File: 928b69abcae3923⋯.jpg (31.11 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 2c744852904e9dc2758f19121e….jpg)

>>15075703

<post shits on youtube faggot

>stop advertising!


5fdd7d No.15077247

File: 0193641c175bcbd⋯.png (2.93 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_15.png)

File: 2093a00ac148f58⋯.png (3.49 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_16.png)

File: 14f919a12532ad6⋯.png (2.3 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_17.png)

File: 1b3c76696e8d9ec⋯.png (2.38 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_18.png)

This was surprisingly easy.


af79ee No.15077629

>>15073453

It's not and never will be. The fundamental problem isn't even with the mechanics, it's simply boring because it has no context. Restoring the HRE in 1940 is stupid but because it's so absurd it becomes funny. Stellaris does not even have that saving grace.


cff3af No.15077643

>>15005542

Is there any reason in particular why VeF would cause Native American tribes to disappear from the game?


16f08b No.15078439

File: e1e4fc7b25550a9⋯.png (2.11 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Germanium blob.png)

What if it's the AI that's doing the blobbing?


484ef2 No.15078476

>>15078439

You need to step it up and fix european borders of course.


16f08b No.15078490

>>15078476

As Sikkim? Anyways, I was making a time lapse so I didn't want to interfere.


4b41db No.15078554

File: bc26d9e6e36a954⋯.jpg (499.17 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20180629115055_1.jpg)

(笑)


484ef2 No.15078557

>>15078490

Thats why i said you need to step it up.


16f08b No.15078591

File: 096b7d8d2fc01a0⋯.png (87.13 KB, 279x271, 279:271, pitbull.png)


484ef2 No.15078597

File: c4cea13c5756974⋯.png (922.07 KB, 1200x1000, 6:5, smug aqua.png)

>>15078591

Ya tu sabe.


264b74 No.15078598

File: 5199ba1c5db3fe5⋯.jpg (185.42 KB, 960x558, 160:93, actual christian art of cu….jpg)

>>15029782

t. christcuck


bdeb6e No.15078609

>>15078598

>cutting foreskin is a christian custom

Sure thing schlomo


484ef2 No.15078618

>>15078598

Wjat are you trying to imply there LARPer?

Circumcision is a big thing in the bible, first because it was part of the covenant between abraham and god and at the end because christians had troubles with jewish christian over wheter circumcision should be forced or not.


16f08b No.15078621


a6306f No.15078635

>>15078598

>>15078618

Circumcision is actually a hygienic practice.

Sweat, semen and other bodily fluids can easily accumulate under the foreskin to form smegma.

Cutting the foreskin prevents smegma from forming, so you don't have to clean your dick as thoroughly.


484ef2 No.15078648

>>15078635

Was, an hygienic practice, by this point theres no point to it and all youre doing is mutilating your penis and losing the closest thing a male has to a clitoris (the tip of the foreskin has lots of sensitivity), also losing the sensitivity in your penis head.


87fe3d No.15078656

>>15078648

>>15078635

It was never a real hygienic practice, because you can wash it with water easily. Using soap or whatever is actually counter producitve. Cutting a functional part of your body is mutilation. Even now it is done without any pain killers, because kids, which causes enormous and live long stress for the person. Ultimately he can't get the real pleasure from sex ever again and it makes him more prone to all sorts of other damage.


484ef2 No.15078662

>>15078656

>because you can wash it with water easily.

Thats the thing though, as a goat herder in the levant water wasnt as available as it is in other parts of the world.

Homever, nowadays there is really no point to it and its an entirely terrible thing to do to a human being.


5fdd7d No.15078724

What's the preferred HoI3 mod? I'm looking at AHOI Treasure and WW1, these seem like the best alternatives.


264b74 No.15078725

File: a0a0fdac2e2b7b7⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 199.96 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, holy prepuce.jpg)

>>15078609

Nice mental gymnastics

https://archive.li/hndAi

>>15078618

>>15078635

Circumcision fucks you up regardless if your 'religion' aka semitic cult says else.

https://archive.li/B3ixb

1. Circumcision Causes Immediate Harm=

Circumcision is often performed on infants without anesthetic or with a local anesthetic that is ineffective at substantially reducing pain (Lander et al., 1997). In a study by Lander and colleagues (1997), a control group of infants who received no anesthesia was used as a baseline to measure the effectiveness of different types of anesthesia during circumcision. The control group babies were in so much pain—some began choking and one even had a seizure—they decided it was unethical to continue. It is important to also consider the effects of post-operative pain in circumcised infants (regardless of whether anesthesia is used), which is described as “severe” and “persistent” (Howard et al., 1994). In addition to pain, there are other negative physical outcomes including possible infection and death (Van Howe, 1997, 2004).

2. Pain from Circumcision in Infancy Alters the Brain

Research has demonstrated the hormone cortisol, which is associated with stress and pain, spikes during circumcision (Talbert et al., 1976; Gunnar et al., 1981). Although some believe that babies “won’t remember” the pain, we now know that the body “remembers” as evidenced by studies which demonstrate that circumcised infants are more sensitive to pain later in life (Taddio et al., 1997). Research carried out using neonatal animals as a proxy to study the effects of pain on infants’ psychological development have found distinct behavioral patterns characterized by increased anxiety, altered pain sensitivity, hyperactivity, and attention problems (Anand & Scalzo, 2000). In another similar study, it was found that painful procedures in the neonatal period were associated with site-specific changes in the brain that have been found to be associated with mood disorders (Victoria et al., 2013).


16f08b No.15078745

File: 149671c52df4f28⋯.png (95.77 KB, 645x729, 215:243, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15078635

>Circumcision is actually a hygienic practice.

ebin hygienic maymay

>so you don't have to clean your dick as thoroughly.

So because it lets you be a lazy unhygienic fuck, the irony, it's hygienic?


4a1c42 No.15078790

Speaking of circumsion, is Denmark with Scania aesthetic borders?


4b41db No.15078853

File: 79a9318fde14905⋯.jpg (90.69 KB, 1200x925, 48:37, shoe mentality.jpg)

>>15078725

Circumcision was abolished by St. Paul, mongoloid.


264b74 No.15078984

File: 257b3e73b403c0e⋯.png (65.88 KB, 500x533, 500:533, brainlet.png)

>>15078853

yet it's still alive around the world nigger, and Saul of Tarsus is a filthy kike who also never meet Jesus


78e226 No.15079775

File: ab1acf5adea7964⋯.jpg (38.3 KB, 500x375, 4:3, scoob.jpg)

Why do you guys even reply to leftycucks?


264b74 No.15079949

>>15079775

read siege faggot


16f08b No.15084722

Is there any modderfags that remember what the differences between 3.03 and 3.04 versions of Victoria 2 in terms of code? Or is that a retarded question?


48d95a No.15085041

>>15077247

Got a link for the mod?

I can't find it.


793b39 No.15085315

File: 32c0e07e281d526⋯.png (1.85 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, Georgia stronk.png)

GEORGIA


48d95a No.15085367

File: 01b4d43de123140⋯.jpg (50.32 KB, 453x439, 453:439, disgust eternal.jpg)

>>15085315

>just blobbing


6ba9e5 No.15086963

>>15085315

rofl xD great post mate

upvote

Seriously though, those borders are disgusting. Europe is already 50% weird shades of red or purple (Aragon, Burgundy, Georgia, Hungary, Lithuania).


2b712e No.15087685

>>15085315

Reminds me of the blitzes I would pull against the T*rks in the original Crusader Kings.


d0ded3 No.15087782

>>15078725

At times, I forget christian burgers are retarded enough to practice circumcision. Then people like you remind me and I laugh. Does any other christian country actually do this shit?


412c94 No.15089820

>>15087782

I guess, only Christian minorities living in North Africa and in the Levant. I guess it's a cultural thing among Semites.


91c75f No.15092437

File: 8612e8f5738629b⋯.jpg (339.93 KB, 1280x708, 320:177, Knight_Warriors_Middle_Age….jpg)

I am about to start a new game on CK2 and don't know who to pick. I am starting at the charlemango start and don't really care too much about religion and culture but I'd prefer not to play as pislam or Suomenusko or west african. Any suggestions?


484ef2 No.15092480

>>15087782

>I forget christian burgers are retarded enough to practice circumcision.

I will never understand this.

>>15092437

Asturias, have fun with the constant big green blob.

Either that, or pagan africans from mali and become a merchant republic.


78e226 No.15093778

>>15092437

One of those south italian Byzantine counts. Taranto or something similar.

I managed to reconquer Italy and North Africa going with those.


16f08b No.15094424

File: 37e8200a64b7d9f⋯.jpg (456.38 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20180702035022_1.jpg)

File: a2a629e00b72e8e⋯.jpg (512.61 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20180702033944_1.jpg)

Power to North America! Also, RIP the United States


484ef2 No.15094454

>>15093778

This actually sounds interesting, a personal quest to become the exarch of italy while remaining loyal to the empire, a shame you cant form the WRE.


16f08b No.15094589

File: ac4799e3ba6faae⋯.jpg (520.96 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20180702055128_1.jpg)

File: 815ae67071c1813⋯.jpg (458.86 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20180702061404_1.jpg)

Also Cascadia became a great power, meaning half of the great powers were North American, with none of them being the USA.


87fe3d No.15094605


78e226 No.15094646

>>15094454

Nah. Just cause a civil war and oust the Emperor when you're strong enough. Italy+ NA is enough for that.

Or marry his only daughter with your heir and assassinate the sons. Or do some other shady shit.

Then reform (if you have the mod for that).


484ef2 No.15095351

>>15094646

But its not the same anon, id like to form the WRE while the ERE still exists and just take it from there reforming the WRE.

It would be different from the typical roman restoration game.


7e91a9 No.15095376

>>15094605

Do you have any other mods installed? Is your game still crashing because it can't open 'The Kingdom of France.txt'? That shouldn't be a problem since that file's in \HFM\common\countries in vanilla HFM.

Try deleting your cache or something, dunno.


78e226 No.15095425

>>15095351

Well the Empire of Italia could technically be WRE. But historically it didn't exist by that time due to all the Germanics already settling in.

You automatically get released from the vassalship if you rise to an Emperor. So you could do it even without a war.

If you're autistic about the name I can't help you. Except if you mod it in. Which probably isn't that difficult.


484ef2 No.15095453

>>15095425

>If you're autistic about the name I can't help you

thats exactly my problem anon, also titles, Shield and color of my blob.

Would italian culture be an adequate substitute for latin instead of greek for a WRE larp game?


606f6e No.15095457

>>15094424

>>15094589

How did this even happen?


7a3621 No.15095549

>>15095453

You can start in HIP in 867 as one of the Karlings. They got a special casus belli to reunite the empire. It's pretty comfy.


6ba9e5 No.15095550

>>15094589

>Cascadia

>Population of 63.79M

How?

Those are some of the best balkanized new world borders I've seen though.


87fe3d No.15095761

>>15095376

Nothing else crashes, no cache deleting helps. Actually putting the sub mod on the top of HFM (merging the folders) worked. I am pretty sure your mod worked before, but for some reason not now. I think the game is not calling HFM first, but your mod. Or something. I am not sure.

P.S. FUCK THE CAPTCHA


d0ded3 No.15095773

>>15094589

9/10 for Texas blobbing so far into Mexico and canada owning Alaska. Otherwise pretty good, better than IRL


838751 No.15095871

>>15078725

So is this the reason why muslims, kikes and Americans all feel a strong desire to destroy everything around them?


7e91a9 No.15095919

>>15095761

Load order should be:

>Anon's HFM Edits

>HFM

But whatever works for you is best I guess.


87fe3d No.15095951

>>15095919

If so isn't the .mod done incorrectly? It is:

path = "mod/HFM"

path = "mod/ANON_HFM"

If I turn them around the game just crashes. But it would be more logical to have the submod loading after the mod and on the top of the mod's files and replacing them?


16f08b No.15096551

>>15095457

>>15095550

I refuted manifest destiny with the help of the GB. I got pretty lucky because GB cut them to size and destroyed most of their troops. After that, as soon as the truce ended, I declared war and occupied every province until the civil war happened, so the FSA and CSA got cores. Also Cascadia got released at somepoint. After that, I kept going to war with the USA to take their states then returning those cores to the FSA, who was my puppet because I took a state like Iowa and released them. How Cascadia got that strong, I will never know.

>>15095773

Fuck Mexico, they kept fucking with me.


7e91a9 No.15096622

>>15095951

Oh yeah my bad, vicky2's fucking weird anyway. I think the tickboxes appear in alphabetical order so that's why I fucked up. The correct loadorder's in the .mod file.


87fe3d No.15096685

>>15096622

Disregard me. I was being stupid all along.


7e91a9 No.15096723

File: 77843fd0812f166⋯.png (112.47 KB, 812x760, 203:190, smurfs brainlet.png)

>>15096685

Don't worry anon, we're all retarded sometimes.


5e7b71 No.15098332

File: 35df26e47134b49⋯.png (38.57 KB, 487x436, 487:436, cutepotato.png)

>>15094589

>>15094424

i really like those borders, would be cool to have something similar in real life


5fdd7d No.15098449

File: 91c26e1b0b86ae1⋯.png (554.14 KB, 748x511, 748:511, 8qsumoE.png)

>>15085041

https://pastebin.com/7ZBm2K3V

Can't say I was particularly impressed by it. Aside from being too vanilla and mostly serving as quick-event detours to escape being railroaded as Greece.


5fdd7d No.15098480

File: 04dcb765f4e99c1⋯.png (1.42 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_7.png)

File: 25599583e211ed4⋯.png (1014.48 KB, 800x600, 4:3, xYygHJK.png)

File: 5d60a7c78c82bcb⋯.png (277.74 KB, 458x606, 229:303, Time_Travel.png)

Something about this is decidedly strange. I don't understand if this was a necessity due to the engine & the Comintern's victory conditions.


5fdd7d No.15098485

File: 618070ce9ec38e6⋯.png (1.63 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_1.png)

File: 77373e2d17846dc⋯.png (1.27 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_2.png)

File: 7e16ce043b10128⋯.png (1.02 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_3.png)

Remarkable, honestly. Also, the secret tech tree in this WW1 mod is sparse but it's still incredibly entertaining. If you're wondering what Korea is doing there it's because I ignored the national decision to annex them allowing them to remain a puppet.


484ef2 No.15098500

>>15098485

So whats there to do with japan in WW1?


5fdd7d No.15098507

>>15098500

Depends how far you wanna go, this was just a test run. Japan gets access to the Entente very near the start of the war. After that you can go island hopping or join the European theater.


484ef2 No.15098508

>>15098507

Taking over colonies and just standing there developing sounds comfy.


5fdd7d No.15098521

>>15098500

>Taking over colonies and just standing there developing sounds comfy.

It really is if you just wanna play with the tech tree, naval dreadnoughts, and WW1 aircraft. The Bismarck Archipelago's garrisons can't put up much of a fight. The British essentially lock down the Pacific theater. The War in Europe presents a challenge; well developed and heavily fortified, landing and establishing your own front can be quite difficult.

Darkest Hour with the Grand Campaign mod is very interesting as Japan, aside from carrying you 1914 to 1990, the British sea bases give you quick access to *any* nation you can declare war on. Of course if they're already concentrated in the area it's best to send cavalry divisions; works well for claiming Arabia.


5fdd7d No.15098534

File: 8cd0ef254106102⋯.png (1.42 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, HoI3_1.PNG)

File: e2265a0cf0cf092⋯.png (2.23 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Tank_Police.png)

File: ad9746eb5097685⋯.png (3.31 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, What_the_FUCK.png)

Out of all the mods I've seen AHOI is my favourite to come back to. It's still unfinished, there's a lot different, the models aren't appropriate, and 2/5th of the descriptions are left blank. It's a mess. But, it has ZEPPELINS; extensive airship tech.

Still no fucking idea why Stalingrad HQ sent out two divisions on an unannounced Persian expedition with no deceleration or support; they're just there.


bd26f7 No.15101036

>>15098534

owo

Can you give me the quick rundown on this mod?


5fdd7d No.15101213

>>15101036

AHOI Treasure, it's still on Mod-DB. It hasn't been updated since 4.04c.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ahoi-mod-a-treasure-chest-for-hoi-3-tfh

It was ambitious once intending to bridge 1900 to 1970, but it still remains as a strictly 1936 game. The author suggested the possibility of a return for a final push into 5.0 but is quite busy.


bd26f7 No.15101246

>>15101213

thanks mate, seems interesting


16f08b No.15103143

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>>15101036

>quick rundown


c97e93 No.15106244

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>>15106237




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