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It's decent enough to pass the time if you're never played it. Parrot it, though when I did I ran into a bug where adventure mode was uncompletable so try looking for a newer version. I bought it eventually because they were giving away free copies of DST to DS owners, but I haven't touched DST for a good while because it gets boring and they fucked up the game in the typical NuGame fashion of littering it with shitty cosmetics and trading.

Don't Starve is one of the few cases where the expansions they release are actually worth the money. The content is usually pretty great, and they update regularly even though the game has been out for what feels like 5 years now. Don't Starve Together is fun with friends

Isn't there something where if you don't have all the DLC it's fucky for some reason? Most people won't get more than a few runs out of it, may even be soured by lame world generation. I enjoyed they put some effort into making different player characters have different play styles, at least. Shipwrecked felt more like an actual expansion than stuff that should have been in the game already.

>>15005307

Are you goofin? A main point of Reign of Giants was them putting in a full four season cycle.

Play Oxygen Not Included instead and pirate it. You can come back to this thread to thank me afterwards.

I got the bundle for cheap a few months back, I like the game in theory but I found the crafting was way too fucking unwieldy, especially when it comes to making yourself a defensive perimeter. Age of Kings came out in 1999 and this game can't figure out how to queue the construction of a whole wall? I mean, unless I missed it.

I didn't play the single player that much, but Together is pretty rad. I think it's hard to find games with a huge world-that-functions-without-you and at same time not spoonfeeding you to death with exposition.

>>15006251

Rein is definitely centered around the seasons, especially Summer, which makes your life extra hell. Not like that's the only thing it does, it's just the main theme.

>>15005273

If you like survival games, Don't Starve is one of the greats, currently. Just be warned, the game is brutal, and shits on you for being unprepared and/or trying to come up with easy exploitable tactics, so you're probably going to be on the wiki a lot. It was originally supposed to be a "how long can you last" sort of deal, with "days survived" gradually cranking up the hidden difficulty factors, but it's actually possible to outrun the game and turn the difficulty into tedium. Getting to that point is genuinely challenging, which probably means it's successful in what it sets out to do. If you do end up playing it, go vanilla -> adventure mode -> Reign of giants -> Shipwrecked.

>>15006414

>vanilla without RoG

Nah that's retarded, it's not that hard as you should quickly learn from losing and it doesn't warrant stripping a lot of content just to add it in later.

>>15005273

As a faggot who plans on making a video declaring his love for this shit, I say it depends on what you're in to. If you want to purest of survival games, Don't Starve is your best bet. It is not without it's flaws, but it's mechanics exist primarily to serve the survival end. If you don't care that much about survival, than this game might feel tedious. Though, expert knowledge in this game trivializes it. If you want specifics, just ask.

>>15006325

>I found the crafting was way too fucking unwieldy, especially when it comes to making yourself a defensive perimeter. Age of Kings came out in 1999 and this game can't figure out how to queue the construction of a whole wall? I mean, unless I missed it.

The game isn't about base building and is actually against it. The walls are mostly useless and were most likely a poorly thought out addition. Much cheaper fences were added in DST but they serve the purpose of locking mobs in or manipulating mob pathing.

>>15006414

The main reason you'd use the wiki is to learn item specifics. For example, there's no way of knowing that the walrus hat provides less insulation than the beefalo hat without the wiki or extensive testing.

>>15006618

>The game isn't about base building and is actually against it.

Really? Every "first tips" sort of guide I played essentially said "gotta build walls fam, gotta protect 'em crops". I guess I wouldn't be surprised this was more of a pitfall than the proper way to go on about it.

>>15006626

In single player Don't Starve (DS), crops aren't very useful. In fact, if you get autumn for your first season, they are a waste of your time. Walls are useless because there is only one item that exists to defend them and that requires end game ingredients and an end game crafting station.

The easiest ways to survive early is to destroy a level 3 spider den, and/or locate the desert. The spider den drops a spider egg which allows you to plant a spider den. You can easily make a spider farm using pigmen or bunnymen(bunnymen are better). The monster meat dropped by spiders can be cooked in the crockpot using most ingredients including ice (easily found during the winter by running by the edges of the land to spawn it during winter).

The desert contains the best food item in the game, cactus. It fills you up and restores sanity without needing a crockpot. The only downside is it costs a little health to pick, which results in a health gain if you pick them during the summer because they drop flowers then.

What ever guide(s) you read were by complete novices because walls are shit and farms are mostly shit outside of Don't Starve Together(DST).

>>15006591

I feel like the immense suite of mechanics added in RoG is hard for first-time players to deal with and giving up, but it's not impossible.

>>15006618

Agreed. Beyond that, very little of the game at all is properly explained, and I'd argue that that becomes the game's biggest problem when it simultaneously asks you to make specific informed decisions that can lead to a failstate.

>>15006626

The game's world is designed to be inherently unsustainable from almost every angle. The best sources of food are finite and dangerous to collect, but the safe and reliable foodsources are very limited, and subject to seasonal complications. Basebuilding is a major part of the game because you're trying to establish a reliable source of food and comfort, but oddly enough, that doesn't stop the game from punishing you for trying to do so. So how do you manage consistently survive each day without falling victim to the world's weird traps and rules? That's where the challenge comes from.

>>15006777

Trips confirm cuckdev status.

>>15007160

Fuck off tranny.

>>15007329

The expansions have you manage different resources per season, like wetness in Spring where it continually rains and soaks you and your stuff, and heat in Summer, at the same time as Hunger/Sanity.

>>15007334

If it's like winter I'll assume it goes something like this: the first time the season comes around you have some resistance, but the second time around you're stocked up and it basically doesn't matter.

>>15007306

How about no. You shill

>>15007397

Dude kinda outed himself as a cuckchanner, considering everyone on this board is here because of mass censorship.

I rather enjoy the game, with the exception of a few things, like trees coming to life with increasing regularity just based on how many days have passed in-game. I hate those fuckers.

I have yet to actually finish my playthrough of it, because I am incapable of completing anything.

I nearly shit my pants when I was confronted by that deerclops for the first time, it's just random shit that comes out of the woodwork to buttfuck you to death that ruins it for me.

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>>15007306

Did I miss something? What did Don't Starve censor?

The only thing I dislike about it is how they handled multiplayer addition. They hacked together a multiplayer game and leaved it as is. Instead of just upgrading the base game to multiplayer and making the following expansions work with it.

>>15007730

I think they caved to all the normalfags begging for m-muh multiplayer when it was never actually part of their vision or plan in the first place. The thing I dislike though is how they handled RoG seasons. Spring/Summer are complete fucking dogshit and you can't escape them by spelunking underground. That's all I want, a motivation to brave the deep in exchange for protection from the elements above but there's no point in the base game.

>>15007755

That's weird. You could escape winter by going underground. Underground actually made it easier to.

>>15007768

Unless they've patched it since I last played, in RoG you can't escape winter cold, spring rain, or summer heat at all underground.

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>>15006710

Personally I rely mostly on bee boxes and honey, or at least that's what I did before the expansions. Infinitely renewable, long-lasting and requires no additional inputs, and also provides considerable healing. You just sit the be boxes in your base (preferably with some nearby flowers) and harvest them every few days. Put them on a cobblestone floor and you can do so without getting stung.

Winter is the only time the bees don't produce, but honey lasts so long that you can stockpile for winter easily. You can also combine it with any meats (including monster) to produce nuggets or honey ham, which have great healing properties

>>15006710

I'm very curious of why people say DST was shit compared to DS as someone who played DS extensively and eventually played DST a lot with my girlfriend I really never got what's so fundamentally different from both those versions (aside from the cosmetic shit).

If anyone could lay it down for me I would appreciate it.

>>15010175

I haven't played DST myself (no friends), but I would guess that they cut out some basic mechanics that didn't work as well in MP and added some trash that didn't improve the game in any way (eg cosmetics). It also sounds like they might have made it easier, or else the game is already easy enough and adding multiple players made it too easy. In any case DST is probably mostly similar but the differences make it overall worse, relying on the "play with friends" angle to be worth anything at all.

>>15010767

they didn't cut anything tbh (they didn't add shipwreck if that's what you mean) they did however add new things to DST although it could have been much better granted, they made the caves easier although if you tweak it in worldbuilding you can pretty much return them back to what they were in DS, and the only major difference is that caves dont have multiple levels now instead they have 1 level only (due to multiple worlds requiring multiple server hostings) but the more you go towards the center of the cave the harder it becomes and it's like the multiple levels in DS.

In terms of difficulty I don't really see it, they added more variety on the basic resources like, different berries that fill you up more but spoil much faster and are rarer, twiggy trees that are better in the long run but you can't get twigs on command without using an axe.

So I don't really see it features weren't cut besides shipwrecked and making caves one layer, and difficulty is pretty much the same and anything that they did change you can revert to it on the world generator. And then they kept caves the same but instead of multi levels just made it 1 level.

The cosmetics tbh are just something so you can differ yourself from your friends, although I particularly give 0 fucks about cosmetics my gf loves getting them and playing dress up. So although the cosmetics are a bit dumb I see no problem in them given they dont affect the game at all (I do like the structure cosmetics though gives different look to stuff you place like campfires and things)

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>>15010767

Sorry for double posting but the game being easier due to multiple players is also a trick, ofc if you have 6 pros at DS and they know how shit works the game is going to work fine.

But having 3 people who are intermediate level at DS is much harder than having 1 intermediate alone.

An obvious example of this is if you have 3 casuals together they will because they lack the autistic mindset for it and just want ot have basic fun they will clump together and work on a base together, this is bad because it means you'll have 3 people depleting all the resources in the area and given that casuals have very little foresight in this game and play as the game goes (e.g. they don't start preparing for summer in autumn) eventually this spirals wether if you're alone you can still keep yourself alive off of berries on the surrounding areas but with too many companions they'll just eat all the berries and resources.

Also if it does become too easy one can just slightly tweak the worldbuilding settings to suit their party.

>>15010175

I absolutely despise the cosmetic cancer, it not only looks ugly visually but can trick you into thinking a reskinned item is a different item entirely because the game doesn't care about maintaining the original appearance.

But last I played, the game was the same as vanilla+ROG, but had more content and a few quality of life improvements.

DST depends mostly on who you'll be playing with, but unlike most people here, I'll say that playing on a crowded public server full of new players is the most fun. Holy shit, I had a blast surviving the onslaught of newbs taking shit everywhere and dying, it added much to the challenge and added a deal of satisfaction by surviving and hiding your base. You can play with the most experienced crew ever and the game won't be fun or challenging IMO, everything will be solved. That's kind of the problem with this game, once you figure out everything, you'll only use the most effective methods and make it unsurprising and solved.

>>15010968

>When you figure out how a survival/management/simulator/anything game works out it loses the fun.

Well yeah that's sort of the point tbh what determines if its a good game or not is if it takes you a while to reach that point while keeping oyu engaged or if you can figure it out after 3 4 hours.

The long dark for example is taking me a while to figure out foolproof methods of survival so I'm having fun, once I figure it out I'll be done with the game unless they add new DLC content to spice it up which DS did.

And the cosmetics is pretty meh its not a comp game so I don't give a shit if I pick up an axe thinking it was a pickaxe.

>>15007306

You'll be playin' vidya games swingin from a tree.

>>15010871

You mean like how different opinions were not tolerated in the soviet union. Telling you your opinion is shit is not the same is censoring you. Which is exactly what the leftists always do.

>>15007688

Nothing, they're going on about some other, older Klei game. At least their newer ones are too "safe" to begin with to get into bullshit like that. I need to get back int Oxygen Not Included but I'm starting to think I'm not autistic enough to git gud at that game.

>>15005273

Yes surprisingly.

>>15005273

no and no

>>15005273

It oozes quirk from every pore, but unlike other quirky indie garbage, there's a fun gameplay loop. Its easy to lose time whenever you get into the day to day grind. If this was 2013, it wouldnt be worth a cent. But the game has certainly filled out with time.

and of course klei is worth your money, real indie studios are rare. And klei has a resume