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The night one and the one for transports are the only ones that add anything really interesting.

>>15002805

The new one that adds custom parks is also worth it.

Even if solely for being able to make parks that fit anywhere.

It's a good game but I'd get it on sale. The DLCs are overpriced.

Why not just play modded SimCity 4?

>>15002882

Honestly your best choice here. I hated skylines and was glad it was a gift from a friend. Simcity 4 with some mods to fix a few retarded aspects of the game like building zones, populatio, traffic flow will be a far more enjoyable experience

it's not, pirate it

>>15002788

What put me off Skylines is the constant push for bigger cities. I just want to make a small rural town with farms, not a fucking huge modern city.

the traffic is a mess and the game quickly becomes a traffic engineering simulation.

still fun. worth ~$10 or a pirate. whatever is easier

>>15002788

It's a Paradox game, each DLC pack has maybe one or two good things in it and the rest of it is pure trash. They do this to all of their titles ad nauseum and they're never worth the price and they don't deserve money.

Cities: Traffic

>>15003302

The AI is shit and you literally require mods to truly expand without catastrophe. Not only will your services travel to foreign suburbs across the highway, they won't even properly do their job logically like picking up dead bodies in the same street sequentially but may use a first-come, first-served system where they can travel in between entire districts. It ruins EVERYTHING.

Use the districts 3.0 mod.

>>15002788

>Playing a shit game

>Not playing superior SC4

It's like you want to be a fag on purpose

The DLCs are garbage, it's going to reach Train Simulator DLC tiers if they aren't stopped.

second thread in a week that's stated or implied that paradox games should be paid for rather than pirated.

people unironically paying for anything made by paradox, ever.

not just pirating them.

>w-we're totally not being raided by cuckchan and others, guys!

>>15003314

will that fix having 60 ambulances all trying to turn left at a major intersection?

>>15003302

this is easily the worst part of skylines. the city building is fun but you will eventually reach the point where it's just plain all about traffic, because your boroughs/districts will be fucking packed with cars 24/7. no matter how creative you get with public transit/subway systems cars will be your bane and there straight up is no way to avoid this unless you're completely autistic and/or a brilliant traffic engineer already

>day/night cycle DLC

>snow texture DLC

>bad weather DLC

>monorail DLC

>"now with grass" DLC

>national park DLC

>DLC that literally just adds a stadium

>concert event DLC

>fucking background music DLC

Cities is alright but the DLC is just fucking audacious. Just mod Cities instead for the content you want.

>>15003302

The worst part is Paradox saying that they have no plans on changing the traffic system either.

>>15003362

Districts allows you to restrict services to each district (as well as education and work) so if you place a hospital in each district and set restrictions you won't have ambulances going across the entire map to get to a patient.

I can deal with the retarded traffic but when roads won't even fucking connect it simply enrages me. Any slight bump on the terrain can fuck up a road, and suddenly you have uneven and divided tiles so lol no high level buildings. Even if you flatten out all the map you can still run into problems, road connection is garbage. The fact that freeplacing roads is a clunky mess doesn't help either, if you want an overpass be prepared to waste 20 minutes deleting roads, buildings, placing and then deleting everything again as it either autoconnects to the wrong place or it won't connect at all.

In the end your city becomes a rollercoaster looking shithole of jammed highways. And why the fuck do people require 4 times as much land to work and shop as they do to live? Do their fucking children work too? Why do i need 3 offices, 4 malls and oilfields as far as the eyes can see to satisfy the jobs and needs of a family? Fuck.

worth a pirate though

>>15003435

>The worst part is Paradox saying that they have no plans on changing the traffic system either.

I heard they excuse it by saying it was hardcoded into the engine or some bullshit like that, essentially admitting they fucked it up so bad the traffic system is literally FUBAR.

>>15003478

>essentially admitting they fucked it up so bad the traffic system is literally FUBAR.

Well what did you expect?

>>15003591

I expected to not want to vomit today.

>>15002788

Only buy After Dark, Mass Transit and Winterfall (If you enjoy winter maps). If you play it a bit and think you want to create custom parks, pick up Parklife. But for start, just stay with After Dark and Mass Transit (And Winterfall if you think you enjoy maps with snow).

You can just pirate it, but i bought it and the DLCs i mentioned above because mods are easier to add with the Steam Workshop and i want to pay the Developers because it is a great game. I have over 500 hours in it. I love it.

>>15003908

I rather pay them and encourage other developers to make games that rival the really big companies, than EA for the absolute dumpster fire that is Sim City (2013).

I'd rather let myself fuck in the ass by a Swedish Paradox Cuck than by an EA CEO.

>>15003916

>I'd rather let Jamal fuck me in the ass instead of his brother Tyrone

You're actually dumb enough to think Paradox is any better than EA.

>>15003924

I'd tell you to get fucked but you probably have no money left because you shoved it up EAs shareholders ass for that sweet sweet microtransactions.

>>15003827

>500 hours

That's how many cities? 3?

>>15003930

It's more, but not sure what you're implying. That you can get many hours out of this game? Sure man, i agree. This game is complex and has a lot of endgame content, as you just pointed out. Good value for your money, i'm glad you agree.

>>15003927

Shit, nigger, Paradox has EA beat in terms of DLC kikery. Also, I find it hilarious that you're defending Paradox by saying they're less shit than EA, like that's some kind of achievement.

I guess, once a cuck, always a cuck.

>>15003942

If you really think that EA and Paradox are on the same level, then so be it. I won't lose sleep over it. Don't buy there shit and move on.

I think that EAs microtransaction garbage is a lot worse than some DLCs that actually add content (some less than others, but no need to buy all) and theres always free stuff too each DLC. Theres none of that with some loot boxes and garbage from EA.

But u do u, eh. No need to argue.

>>15003950

>If you really think that EA and Paradox are on the same level, then so be it

I don't think they're on the same level, I actually think Paradox is fucking worse. EA has yet to sell you the soundtrack and unit sprites for Command and Conquer. They might rape the corpse, but they're not going to butcher it into pieces and sell you the rotting flesh back.

>Don't buy there shit and move on.

My problem here is that not only are you giving Swedish Marxist cucks money, but you're encouraging other anons to do so too, and what's worse, for a shit game that lacks a shred of challenge, whose developers have done nothing to actually improve it.

You're a filthy shill. Fuck off.

>>15003954

How did you get that picture?

>>15003968

Wow, youre either actually on the spectrum or you got raped so hard as kid you lost some abilites to think properly. Just fuck off and play amputee women in some ww2 game, because some faggot developer doesnt want to be on the wrong side of the history because his 13 year old girl doesnt understand history.

youre a faggot who thinks that pretending stuff doesnt happen with EA and asume the worst of Paradox. Youre either autistic or so retarded youre not even worth my time.

Id say youre as retarded as they come, but i saw people defending EA before, so youre not the worst but def on there.

Just pirate it with all mods, then buy the base game if you want to give them shekels. The mods are way overpriced.

>>15003993

>paid mods

Oy vey, replace with DLC

>>15004013

Thank you. I wouldn't have even known where to begin looking so I really appreciate the help. I bless you with good luck and happiness.

>>15003435

But how do you fix that? How do you make a convincing traffic system that paths to arbitrary locations; avoids traffic jams; and does this for an entire city's worth of cars, pedestrians, and bikes all with a small computing budget? And why do I get the feeling that most people who complain about traffic jams in city builders are gridfags with no sense for good transportation design?

The only road issues I have are with the way proximity to public services are calculated. It's impossible to have interesting neighborhoods that are connected to schools and firehouses, even if they're relatively close. I guess you could connect all your roads with footpaths and bike lanes but that becomes a huge pain very quickly. Crime will just magically appear in wealthy suburbs because a cop didn't want to go all the way to the end of a cul-de-sac.

>>15004120

If you can't work out the most important aspect of the a city sim then why bother making one? And they have no excuse, they release at least three games in the Cities franchise that focused almost exclusively on transportation.

>>15004120

>How do you make a convincing traffic system that paths to arbitrary locations; avoids traffic jams; and does this for an entire city's worth of cars, pedestrians, and bikes all with a small computing budget?

If you can't do this, you shouldn't make a city-builder.

>>15004144

It's a good thing the mudshits will wipe the Swedes out.

>>15006533

pirate game, pirate DLC, no hacking because itz 4 5hi7 g4m3

>>15005619

issue with the winter DLC is that there winter only maps. they don't go though seasons

get the stadium DLC i think that is free. when your team wins the whole town gets a boost in happiness

are mods for citiesskylines dependent on having the major dlcs?

>>15003916

How about no to both, fagget?

Paradox just gobbled up the (((Battletech))) jews, who couldn´t wait to sell their whole studio and their oh so heart-blood franchises to some Swedish super SJWs

If you want a proper city sim play SimCity 4. C:S looks pretty and isn't tied to the grid when it comes to roads, but mechanics-wise it is vastly inferior to SC4.

>>15016344

I didn't know that, does that mean Paradox has the Battletech license now? I know the MWO fags are making MechWarrior 5, but fuck me if Paradox is going to outdo Battletrannies. I don't even want to see Swedenrun. How do jews even sell out to Swedes anyway? I didn't think it worked that way. And for $7.5 million, fucking hell. They could have had a kickstarter to sell their company instead, probably would have gotten a better deal.

>Donate more to get a bigger share in the company!

>it will be proportionate to the total raised

>>15003916

>I rather pay them and encourage other developers to make games

You're only encouraging these cucks to make more shitty fucking games you dumb faggot

>>15003478

there are mods that change the traffic system

>>15006659

>ground texture DLCs

Jesus.

>>15003916

Why would ANYONE play SC:2013? That's literally the last incarnation of SimCity you should ever touch. Even fucking Societies was better, and that's the dark horse that hardly anyone has heard of, because they really tried to cover it up.

>>15003367

>no way to avoid this

Did they fix the part where the traffic doesn't actually matter? You could exploit the fuck out of one way roads in when I played this shit. I didn't matter that it was impossible for cars to get somewhere shit would still pop up.

>>15002788

>paying for DLC

Anon, you're beyond help if you think this is an option that should be taken.

>>15018083

Age2 is comfy but it's not a city-builder.

>>15004144

>>15004014

Johan is /ourAutist/, 100%. Utter grognard. The problem is Wiz's cabal which performed a soft coup d'état - Johan is now merely a figurehead watching as Straitmaster Wiz rapes his studio.

>>15018421

The game's most basic, core mechanics are broken in such a way that makes being able to cope with them an interesting challenge for a certain brand of autismos.

>>15003271

Realizing the actual mechanics of the game are merely a side show will liberate you. It's just a sandbox toy to create a little model city more than any sort of management-based simulation. Once you come to terms with this, you either become like

>>15006674

and start building comfy shit that has no gameplay purpose/benefit, or just drop the game entirely

>>15018421

build a city hall and monitor food consumption and production via the annual charts. Since you aren't guessing its much easier to make sure you have enough food stocked.

Build pastures, even the biggest ones only need 3 herdsmen at most and they are very good at feeding large populations with low labor.

I personally don't like orchards because they produce less and take a lot longer to grow. Though they provide wood, not enough to ever be meaningful.

For mines and quarries you don't want to build those until late game because they will increase your death rate substantially. You can easily import steel tools and coal to produce the amount you need yourself.

>>15019010

This anon is absolutely correct, C:S with mods is a god-tier toy for making pretty looking cities, but its mechanics are a downgrade from SC4.

>>15019476

What are you looking at the last ten years for goddamn nigga, you only need to compare last two years population and food consumption to forecast current years.

If you want to you can also work out which commodity you produce the most of and check how many you have working on each resource.

Also for the food graph you only need to know the peak consumption for each year and what population that was at. So set it to the last 3 years at most.

If you work out, hey last year my nerds ate 12000 food, and the population was 100, but this year the population is higher so I need to produce at least another 3000 to be safe. Also don't get confused about production, a lot of buildings display their production in per season instead of per year and they don't always produce all seasons. I'm stupid and don't understand graphs so it took me a while to figure that out.

Also keep in mind that some things increase in yield over time. For example pastures while they are growing to the maximum herd size produce very little food. If you don't have enough labor, close down the low production facilities.

>>15019476

Anyway from that graph your annual peak consumption never rose above 9000, so as long as you produce at least 10000 units of food a year you shouldn't ever have famine. I recommend producing double and storing it though, you will save yourself a lot of trouble in case a disaster strikes that disrupts your production. Having a year or two buffer will help a lot. Pretend spoilage doesn't exist.

>>15019476

That graph is food production by the way, not consumption if you were assuming.

Sim City is the best franchise, skyline is for cucks who like "pretty" graphics without the actual parts of a city builder that make it enjoyable

>>15021116

Because Skylines was made by retarded SJW devs

>>15021899

Even with the limited scope of SC2013, pirates cracked open the game and found it didn't simulate every agent (which was the entire justification for the MUH CLOUD COMPUTING scam). It was mostly smoke and mirrors. The fucking retards fudged the population numbers to make players think they have more sims than they actually do. These fake sims had no jobs, no homes, didn't use streets and didn't pay taxes, but they still racked up service costs. And that is to say nothing of the numerous development shortcuts taken with the citizens that ARE simulated.

>>15022445

Yeah, Glassbox is a joke. Pretty to look at, but no substance at all to it. Also, cloud computing doesn't exist; it was just for multiplayer, which is honestly pretty limited and pointless in a game like this.

As for fudging numbers, if you mod Skylines to exceed the native <1 million population limit, it basically does the same thing. You can't have more than around 300,000 agents, so it requires a lot of tricky shit. You can get more growth of the city and build more, but it's kinda an illusion because not everyone can be out on the streets at once.