12ad74 No.14980973
I'm very unsure how to feel about this. It could be good or it could be complete shit like Fates.
From the trailer this is what I could glean.
>actual 3D models (no more 2.5D chibi bullshit)
>squad based combat or something that involves soldier units with every player character
>anime art styled in post-Awakening fashion
>character that looks like an Emmeryn clone
>involves a Goddess of some sort
>There's a barracks that you can walk around in (presumably used for fanservice/waifu shit)
>locales in battles include temples and volcanoes
Hooktube link:
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=kbCNrTwKF24
Overall interesting if weird. Potential for both good and shit here.
101a20 No.14981017
One thing we all know for sure is that (((Treehouse))) will cuck this game into the 7 hells.
8c8089 No.14981019
Nice and stable framerate by the way
0d6f60 No.14981052
3 houses, as in 3 fucking separate games again?
Fucking pass, I wait for Valkyria Chronicles 4 on PC.
12ad74 No.14981053
>>14981017
Are they even confirmed for localizing it?
Didn't 8-4 localize Echoes?
101a20 No.14981084
>>14981053
It was just me making a guess but the fact I'd rather 8-4kids is telling how fucking bad Kikehouse is, best case would be NoE doing it.
12ad74 No.14981141
>>14981052
That could be the case, but I'm not entirely sure.
I think it might just end up referring to the three nations used.
I'm not sure how they'd end up separating them if they're already calling the game "three houses"
>>14981084
Agreed for the most part. I don't want NoA/treehouse touching this in any way shape or form. Literally any other localization outfit excluding NISA would be better.
8-4 actually did pretty well on Echoes for the most part from what I've heard, though they did end up making one minor character gayer than he actually was if I remember correctly.
I wish localization companies didn't suck so much fucking dick.
574198 No.14981202
>>14981017
It's already cucked. Ugly old hag and no sexy waifus. Fully clothed girls.
6c85a6 No.14981248
>>14981202
We haven't seen enough designs to know yet. She's no more clothes than Lucina. The main heroine usually isn't the sexy one.
574198 No.14981268
>>14981202
3ds games looked more anime in battle too. This one looks like garbage in battle and map. Similar to shitty wii and gamecube games.
12ad74 No.14981269
>>14981202
>where's my dating sim
kys
101a20 No.14981273
>>14981141
> don't want NoA/treehouse touching this in any way shape or form. Literally any other localization outfit excluding NISA would be better.
What would be great if they just allowed NoE to run localization.
12ad74 No.14981312
>>14981268
>Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn
>shitty
>meanwhile thinks 3DS games looked "more anime" (they didn't; they were closer to chibishit garbage)
>think the 3DS games were good at all
cuckchan /feg/ might be more your speed
898c2b No.14981364
>Hidari designs.
>No more dissonance created by poor scale abstractions thanks to common soldiers in battle anims.
Looks really good to me, but not good enough for me to buy a switch.
574198 No.14981382
>>14981312
Cry more. Waifus are what made this boring series alive again. War is about blood and sex. I wouldn't mind if they add slavery element. Not interested much in dating stuff and dialogues.
b52dbd No.14981427
Looks like squad formations might affect unit matchups/defence/attack or something.
If they start the time-travel/waifu/kids shit again I will be pissed.
a46a0b No.14981450
They have Langrisser style armies now?! Holy shit, whatever god there is, I beg him to not let Treehouse touch this.
6c85a6 No.14981454
If you idiots think they're done with waifus you're deluded.
101a20 No.14981463
>>14981450
>I beg him to not let Treehouse touch this.
Anon don't monkey paw this.
d8a5e6 No.14981524
>weapon durablity is back but you you better fucking let us repair them
>battle display starts in classic display mode
>Combat arts are back
>avatar seems to be already experienced might be the jagen
Actually fucking hyped maybe the avatar wont be cancer for once
12ad74 No.14981540
>>14981345
I feel tired just skimming this.
>>14981382
>waifu pandering and fanservice saved Fire Emblem
No faggot, they just brought cancer like you aboard
>War is about blood and sex
So much of that in nu-FE right? War is about bikini costume DLCs and no blood whatsoever as well as characters being fucking resurrected for no purpose other than to provide shitty "additional content"?
How's about a complete lack of anything actually sexual? Its just fanservice, but its shit fanservice. Its not anywhere close to anything like Senran or Neptunia. All it did was shift budget away while they try their best to insert weak as fuck fanservice at the cost of literally everything else
>I wouldn't mind if they add slavery element
There was always shit like implied rape and slavery in Fire Emblem.
Nu-FE's biggest problem is that its fucking boring: the writing is shit, the pandering is blatant and interferes with everything and the gameplay is absolute garbage. The older games were fun as shit.
7604dd No.14981543
>>14981141
>>14981273
From my understanding most the Treehouse staff basically got gutted after the Fates fiasco so we'll wait and see.
12ad74 No.14981574
>>14981543
Gonna need a big source for this one.
d8a5e6 No.14981586
>>14981454
>ugh nu-FE is full of waifus disgusting
Pal you are the one who is acting like a 4chan faggot here
12ad74 No.14981589
>>14981574
Especially since the same kind of rumor went around that fucking NIS "yakuza'd" NISA's staff because of their shit performance and we all know how Ys VIII turned out that proved that was fucking bullshit
648ce8 No.14981622
>>14981345
I don't see any issue with that.
399716 No.14981638
>>14981622
I knew I wasn't the only one who thought about Ace Combat Belka.
574198 No.14981678
>>14981540
Ike and Nephenee destroying everything is fun and good design? Wii and Gamecube games were soulless shit. At least older games has some good art not like this americanized garbage.
101a20 No.14981689
>>14981543
While it seems and most of /v/ hopes this I don't think we've seen the last of (((Treehouse)))
6c85a6 No.14981738
Where did I say that? I said people are stupid if they think FE dropped waifus.
6c85a6 No.14981754
17d408 No.14981802
>>14981586
Nephenee best FE girl hands down, rivaled only by Lucina and that armor girl from Sacred Stones.
32594c No.14982127
>>14981586
Those were designed and written as characters first, people waifuing them isn't borne out of pandering or panty shots.
Nu-FE's are the reverse. there is almost nothing redeeming about any of the characters outside of their designs. Their personalities are nothing more than pandering archetypes often behind horrible characters.
Camila is a blatant yandere archetype with Ara/older sister pandering.
Severa is nothing more than a tsundere.
Tharja is a yandere nutcase.
I could go on.
There is almost nothing worthwhile to these characters and they're all hot garbage in a game that is not fun to play them in.
On top of this, actual fan service is pretty scarce.
Camila outside of portrait/unit information art gets 1 fanservice cut scene and thats it
Oh, and the shitty hot tub scenes of course with the shit character models
Fan service in Nu-FE is garbage
They didn't need fan service in their older games and people will actually remember and love those characters both for being attractive and having actual personalities and backstories
They also aren't meant to pander to any self-insert Mary sue harem protagonist character either like the Nu-FE ones are.
6c85a6 No.14982324
>>14982127
>Writes a massive post about why fanservice is bad
Back to ResetEra with you.
104110 No.14982453
>>14982127
Any modern anime style game has characters that at glance seem very bland or one-dimensional. This is usually because the Japanese consumers like familiar things, and it is a way to get people invested in the character without having to blurt out their backstory during the recruitment scene. It is a way to ease players into the character. The character is then later developed, and in FE it is done with supports. Awakenings supports weren't bad, with a few exceptions. Complain to the Japanese if you dislike this way of writing and character design.
335787 No.14982474
>>14982324
You have to wonder where all these goons came from, what brings them to a place like this?
cf8168 No.14982530
>>14982324
>I can't argue: the post
Go play some gacha games queer
>>14982453
Except Fire Emblem is an old and established franchise with an established way of writing characters.
Awakening's supports were okay, acceptable maybe if you exclude the literal template supports and the cliché bullshit. They changed their traditional style purely for pandering and any writing involving the avatar interacting with any other character is shit which is a big fucking problem since he alongside chrom are the fucking protagonists of the game
>>14982474
>goon
So remind me how this is an argument again?
1f2654 No.14982562
>>14981312
Echoes was alright.
1cd299 No.14982585
>>14982453
>Complain to the Japanese
They aren't the ones who gutted the support dialogues.
cf8168 No.14982586
>>14982562
It was good enough.
ac916b No.14982587
>>14980973
It looks interesting.
I will pirate it, when yuzu emulator will work.
45ddb6 No.14982596
>>14981364
>Squads where every soldier looks the same and has the same pose regardless of position
That's more jarring than the scale abstractions. Sengoku Rance did this right and that game had sprites so they needed to draw frames for each different pose.
>>14981678
>Ike and Nephenee destroying everything
Someone played on casual mode.
574198 No.14982627
>>14982596
Nice try but it was on hard. Back to resteera. Fanservice is bad kay?
cf8168 No.14982653
>>14982627
Disingenuously shitposting against everyone who says something you don't like isn't an argument.
1cd299 No.14982668
>>14982653
>Disingenuously
Please take your mind-reading powers and leave, foul sorcerer.
1f2654 No.14982696
>>14982585
Ultimately, they're responsible for allowing it to be gutted instead of sending their work to a better group of people.
cf8168 No.14982902
>>14982668
The fag called someone who has played and enjoyed Rance as a reseteranigger; on top of this he has no other posts in this thread, nothing mentioning fanservice whatsoever
He's either willfully shitting up the thread to piss people off or he's a retard
6c85a6 No.14983025
>>14982530
>Queer
You're on an image board, faggot, say fag. God you're so bad at fitting in.
fb840a No.14983029
>>14981364
>Hidari designs
Anon I don't think you know what that means. This doesn't look anything like Hidari.
45ddb6 No.14983100
>>14982627
>Sengoku Rance
>Resetera
And here's how I know you never played hard mode or have a sense of who is actually good or not. For hardmode you would be relying on Oscar as a spear user because of his good starting stats (for his level) and earth affinity. Nephenee isn't worth the trouble since she's too weak to handle the increased accuracy and damagel. Hell Gatrie is better than she is even if he gets doubled every other attack he doesn't take much any damage. In normal mode everyone is a beast because normal mode is actually the easy mode in Japan.
Ike is mediocre in hard mode until he gets his promote and lol infinite ranged sword but by then you're like 3/4 of the way through the game.
574198 No.14983332
>>14983100
Part of my desktop. I also have Uchiyama Aki stuff. Now kill yourself. Resteera fag.
de4d63 No.14983351
Why do all 3D Fire Emblem games look fucking ugly?
cf8168 No.14983380
>>14983332
Now this is some incredible retardation
574198 No.14983419
>>14983380
He claims Ike can't destroy everything alone while it's possible. What's there to discuss? Implying resteerda doesn't have sjweeb. Muh rance.
45ddb6 No.14983523
>>14983419
Yeah anyone can throw enough stat items at a character make him competent.
949504 No.14983539
>>14980973
cant wait for the westernize version!
41d8a3 No.14984188
I hope there's no relationship links in this game. I played Awakening and hated it for that. I really want to make a tactical move and yet I can't because i've gotta level one of my weak units or boost a relationship up.
cf8168 No.14984189
>>14983419
Nigger you claimed he was resetera after he says to have played and enjoyed Rance (an H-game, beyond fanservice games and also beyond pretty much any SJWeeb's paygrade especially because of the core concept behind Rance), then you used a screencap of your desktop of you having installed Rance as if it had anything to do with anything
>what's there to discuss
Your desktop?
You proved that you're not a resetera nigger?
Who gives a shit?
841aa8 No.14984382
The designs might be a little too subdued but I think the art style is better then Fates
d8a5e6 No.14984563
>>14984382
So shes the main lord and the Avatar unit is the Veteran who teaches her. Interesting I normally do not like Avatar units but if they are the Jagen of the game I would like to see how this goes
6c85a6 No.14984627
>>14984188
>I hope there's no relationship links in this game.
>He thinks there were no supports before Awakening
Nigger, supports have been a thing in the series forever. So many newfags trying and failing to blend it. You only look cool trying to play the hipster if you actually know about the series you're fucking talking about.
d8a5e6 No.14984662
>>14984188
>>14984627
Genealogy had the best relationship system I want jealousy to be back too
09854d No.14984712
>>14984563
The Order of the Crimson Arm hack had a MU as a Jeigan in a pretty unusual way: They're basicly a level 1 dark mage with good dodge and a decent starting speed in chapters where virtually nobody has a extant resistance status so they could nuke any enemy you needed removed and didn't have to worry too much about being damaged. Their speed growth was below average despite a good base though so their usefulness quickly drops off by the mid chapter.
The Road to Ruin hack also had an interesting solution by including a pretty typical Jeigan, with the twist that she has a forced promotion about half-way that also gives her actual growth rates and she becomes the lord character for a few chapters.
41d8a3 No.14984716
>>14984627
How would I know what's in the other games if i've only played Awakening you retard? The mechanic is a piece of shit.
4670fb No.14984746
>>14981586
who is the fluid druid in the last pic and how can I get her to taste my semen
09854d No.14984762
>>14984712
Order of the Crimson Arm also starts throwing a lot of mages (many light mages) and other units with a resistance stats at you midway so MU's useful drops off for that too.
d8a5e6 No.14984768
>>14984746
Naliah but shes a laguz whore!
cf8168 No.14984824
>>14984627
>the fag with no arguments continues to virtue signal about totally being an oldfag while continuing to be disingenuous about his basic points
Uh huh. There was totally no difference between the supports of then and now.
I totally remember the pair-up system being critical in FE1 and 3 right? How about the barracks system for managing relationships? How about those tiles you should stand on to improve relationships?
How's about the face-rubbing? I sure remember that in genealogy? How about relationship management to get optimal children like you're breeding pokemon?
And on top of all this, the fucking dick-sucking present in all supports aimed at the self-insert protagonist
kill yourself
3b7a07 No.14984839
>>14980973
Let's hope the writing is better than in Fates.
d8a5e6 No.14984880
okay I guess the other 2 guys are from other houses
3986c1 No.14984955
>>14982127
Well that woman running the series likes to make characters that are anime cliches, so that would explain that.
>>14984880
d8a5e6 No.14984986
>>14984955
I keep seeing rumors about a Yaoi artist for this game
104110 No.14985167
>>14984880
If blonde isn't an arrogant prick and brown isn't a cocky smug bastard, then they wasted their potential.
b8b0e0 No.14985189
>>14984986
It wouldn't surprise me as it's common to hire former or even current doujin creators, but those three characters look more like Persona mixed with Stella Glow. I'm really getting a Klaus vibe from these characters, but that'd only make sense if the artist was told to slightly adjust his style. The noses of those three are of different coloration than the rest of the face, not so for Klaus. Eyebrows are less prominent for the three. Still, too generic for anyone to say who made it.
c3c1fe No.14985232
I really like the detail they put in this time, the legion that follows you around is a really nice touch, if nothing else. If it's fucking pokemon'd again though i swear to fucking god.
6c85a6 No.14985802
>>14985232
>If it's fucking pokemon'd again though i swear to fucking god.
It looks like you'll be able to pick all three in the same game.
45ddb6 No.14985846
>>14984986
They should have gotten the artist from echoes again. The art was pretty good. The portraits in three houses look like they belong in Persona 4. Such lazy shading and little attention to line weights.
5662ee No.14985857
>>14980973
>>14984382
>>14984880
Is it me or does the new artstyle of Fire Emblem Three Houses looks like Persona's artstyle?
3986c1 No.14985887
>>14985857
It's not just you, blond bitch screams purseowner.
e51f3c No.14985951
>>14985857
It's those tiny pupils.
I don't particularly mind though, I love Persona's artstyle.
574198 No.14986006
>>14985846
Agreed. Much better than current garbage.
324f51 No.14986036
>>14985857
It looks like mobileshit to me.
If fine with it as long as the game is good though.
4113cd No.14986049
>>14981017
We can't ever have nice things.
d2f160 No.14986216
Reminder that Awakening saved Fire emblem. That series was about to die because of poor sales.
45ddb6 No.14986237
>>14986216
Not because of its merits or lack thereof but because of a drought in games. it actually bundled with 3ds for ambassadors because no games.
e21cea No.14986443
>>14985167
I wouldn't be shocked if the Aryan turns out to be another pic related tbh
ad263f No.14986475
>>14981017
>Fire Emblem: Tree Houses
The joke writes itself
c96eee No.14986680
Gameplay looks alright. Seems some new mechanics have been added, but it looks like we might be getting another decent Fire Emblem game and not Awakening or Fates trash. I'm cautious though and I worry it could go south fast.
d0d7c5 No.14987023
>>14981524
>Avatar/MyUnit is the Jagen to the cutie female lord.
>YOU are the sempai.
I AM THE SEMPAI!?
d8a5e6 No.14987675
>>14987023
I wanna say you are I dont know
13aa0d No.14987698
>>14981052
>Three houses means you pay thrice
d8a5e6 No.14987755
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Okay I think I figured it out lads
>Avatar unit is a Veteran/Teacher archetype
>Avatar unit some how plays a role with all 3
>The 3 lords are from 3 houses duh
>Persona-like art style
>Each of the lord have similar designs such as their crest/collars like a UNIFORM
>LOCATION IS A MILITARY ACADEMY
>girl mentions mock battles
>Fight a weird robot training dummy in trailer
8404c7 No.14987769
Seems really bland honestly it doesn't have the distinct FE look. I don't know, I'm very unenthusiastic about everything I've seen. I can't even muster some anger like with Fates.
>>14986216
Was that really good though?
8404c7 No.14987795
>>14987769
Oh yeah it also already has more world building than Fates.
d8a5e6 No.14987799
>>14987795
Tellius has the best world building still though
104110 No.14987998
>>14987769
I know what you mean. Even if it isn't garbage, the trailer doesn't feel all that interesting. I do wish they had other designs. I never really liked the Persona style all that much, even if it isn't bad. The world so far isn't very colorful. The grasslands look bleak and the cities even bleaker. Combat doesn't seem to have any punch to it, especially the numbers that pop up.
I hope it is just a case of the game being in development, and that things are still subject to change.
>>14987820
It also seems like we get to free roam between battles to build supports and do various things within the city/academy (mix between the base from PoR/RD and my castle from Fates). To increase the Cold Steel aesthetic.
101a20 No.14988019
>>14986680
Pray (((Treehouse))) doesn't touch it.
e497a3 No.14988561
>>14980973
It looks like they're finally taking cues from Langrisser. They should have been doing that since the SNES era.
b26ee9 No.14988628
>>14988561
Politely disagree tbh and I like both franchises.
Langrisser should remain Langrisser as Fire Emblem should stay Fire Emblem. If they're gonna be original they should come up with their own shit rather than drawing from their former competitors. (Well Langrisser had that one attempt at revival on the 3DS but I heard it fucked up or something)
0cd68a No.14988660
>>14981345
Maximum Autismo
bf032d No.14988842
>>14980973
Confirmed pozzed. Just a small preview of what to expect from the upcoming Islamic Caliphate of Japan.
>inb4 cuckchan goons try to debate us
e7546b No.14988879
>>14988842
It was going to happen eventually. (((They))) coild not let it continue.
60fe98 No.14988885
>>14988879
Honestly at this point I expect the final game to be a multiculti shitfest with at least a dozen trannies. And that's being optimistic.
2d1b37 No.14988897
>>14981586
I want to nail nailah.
6c85a6 No.14988903
>>14988842
>>14988879
>>14988885
>Three (1)s in a row start a "conversation" all agreeing with each other. Gee, what a coincidence. But hey, let's see what you got. What has led you to say this? Since you didn't actually say any reasons in your post.
8e960f No.14988909
>>14986216
Death and eventual rebirth would have been preferable to nuFE.
Then again, the monkey paw would probably mean that it was Advance Wars that got cucked to death by the fan-fiction casual in charge of FE now. So maybe it is better this way.
Honestly I wish they'd just made Echoes 2: This Time With Proper Map Design
b66909 No.14988911
>>14988903
>Since you didn't actually say any reasons in your post.
It's so fucking obvious even a retard could get it. I'll give (you) a hint:
olympics
104110 No.14988916
>>14988842
>>14988879
>>14988885
>Blatant fanservice replaced with a different form of milder fanservice
>Pozzed
Are these bots or what is going here?
6c85a6 No.14988934
>>14988911
What like no lolis? Anon we've seen like…three characters in the game. Fire Emblem games have ery large casts. Unless you suddenly saw way more of the game than we got to.
>>14988916
It's too early to say even that. We've seen almost non characters. One could easily have tits for days. They could bring back the fucking hot springs for all we know, only now with no ass models.
We've seen so little that it's impossible to make that claim at all.
6d1a2d No.14988940
>>14988934
>three characters in the game
And one of them is a nigger. Not a good sign.
>>14988916
See what >>14988911 has to say. If you aren't following current trends then the inevitable Japanese Caliphate is your problem.
6c85a6 No.14988955
>>14988940
Why do you keep changing your id? Are you the guy that was btfo in the Cyberpunk thread? You sound like him, and it looks like you're trying to do the same derailing here…
292015 No.14988978
>>14988955
>continuong to stick your head in the sand
Japan as a whole is going full poz and there is nothing you can do about it.
104110 No.14988979
>>14988940
Christ. Do you even follow Japanese trends at all? This game will feature a military academy, where you are an instructor. That means you literally have all the characters sucking up to you, including the entire female cast. This has been done a million times.
>Nigger
Brown skin with regular facial features is often shown in anime. Often a reference to the appearance of Okinawan people. Since they are Asians with tan skin. Flavia and Basilio had major roles in the story of Awakening too. Come back when your western ass is done acting like they enjoy Japanese games.
292015 No.14988988
>>14988979
>Do you even follow Japanese trends at all?
Yes, yes we do. And what we can confirm from them is that the Olympics will be the point in which Japan officially starts its downward slope into caliphacy and SJWism. One look at the current animes should give you a good preview of whats to come.
6c85a6 No.14989008
>>14988988
>Hohoho I have secret knowledge
>If only you could see the signs
>I will now vaguely allude to things instead of providing any sort of evidence so it sounds like I know something and not just completely talking out of my ass
104110 No.14989010
>>14988988
I'll bite. Tell me which anime are you thinking of? If it's fujoshit then please hang yourself.
91cd6d No.14989015
>>14989008
For fuck sake cuckchan
>>>/n/625894
6c85a6 No.14989039
>>14989015
… that's it? Didn't you say current anime were showing these "trends?" Or did you just assume that was happening because people in the thread we're saying it would? Which anime exactly show this new pro-islamic culture that you claim has taken over the country? You said it was there. You're going to have to point to it
6d040d No.14989049
>>14989039
They are literally inviting hundreds of thousands of niggers, spics, and pajeets into their country. Thatvalone speaks for itself.
104110 No.14989067
>>14989015
I know it is really difficult for idiots to understand how capitalism works. But when there is a shortage of workers, then the economy cannot expand. If the economy cannot expand it leads to stagnation and ultimately a recession. Recession leads to a decline in living standards and in worst case leads to poverty, while also weakening the countries standing in the global economy. This then leads into a downward spiral where global banks won't invest in the economy, which then hampers expansion even more.
>>14989049
While this could be true, it doesn't say that it is certainly refugee tier immigrants. It just says foreign workers. Way to blow things out of proportion and start drama about nothing. The bigger issue is Japanese birthrates. If they fix those, then this wouldn't have been an issue.
>Japanese SJW's are hindering those as well
No they are not. There is plenty of Japanese propaganda geared towards getting children and finding jobs.
6c85a6 No.14989086
>>14989049
So I should take that as a no, then? You don't have anything to back up what you said a few posts up? Considering you are outright dodging my question.
3ee81f No.14989097
>>14981543
Even if that's true the industry is full of upcoming soyboy hipsters and SJWeeb trash. Their replacements could potentially be even worse.
3ee81f No.14989111
>>14988988
Daily reminder the Olympics meme was forced by LRD on cuckchan /a/ and /pol/ several years ago, and only a retard believes nations change around their entire culture and legislation to please foreigners visiting for two weeks and never coming back.
6c85a6 No.14989148
>>14989097
In the end it's not about the soyboys themselves, it's about the moneymen controlling them and how much of a leash they're given and how much the company is willing to risk backlash. Remember, FE Echos was taken away from Treehouse pretty much right after the Fates debacle. Don't forget Xenoblade 2 being given to Nintendo EU instead of Treehouse or 8-4 after the X fiasco as well. Nintendo are greedy and they'll put their bottom line first. That can work for us, though, if we know how to use it.
3ee81f No.14989173
>>14989148
I hope your right anon. CY+3 vidya leaves me in a state of permanent pessimism, unfortunately.
6c85a6 No.14989190
>>14989173
Nothing wrong with being alert and wary, anon, but take care that you don't become so jaded that the color drains from the world and you can no longer find happiness in what you love. It's important to try and look back and see the things we have actually accomplished, even if there is still much, much more left to do.
d04daf No.14989360
>>14982453
> Awakenings supports weren't bad,
Wrong, they are structurally bad. Regardless of what you think of the quality of the writing (it is inferior to FE4-10's writing quality, but that's aside from the point), the way Awakening is structured, all three-four support conversations for any two characters can happen before the next chapter after the recruitment of the second character. In other words, you get Chrom in chapter 1 and Sumia in chapter 3. You can grind out Chrom and Sumia's relationship to S rank by chapter 4. They could go straight to marrying each other before you progress a little bit in the story. For this reason, the support conversations had to all be written to not acknowledge anything that happens after the character joins the party. That severely constrains the amount of character development that can happen to being explicitly not plot driven (and no one has any real character development over the course of the main plot either). The problem is also complicated by the fact that in previous fire emblem games, you had an extremely limited number of support conversations you could do per character per playthrough (5), so all the supports were designed to build up to a much more serious relationship developing. With Awakening everything other than the S-rank is written as filler because it can be done to absolutely no consequence (and even then S-rank is written in the most adolescent manner imaginable).
In comparison to previous Fire Emblems, most of them have a system where keeping characters adjacent to each other results in them building towards a support conversation which can only be done once per chapter. In every one of these games except Sacred Stones (which is non-linear therefore suffers part of Awakening's problem), this at the very least allows the support conversations to refer to events that happen two chapters after the second character joins. Path of Radiance had the best support system, which built support through deploying in the same chapter for a certain number of times, which allows support conversations to reference any event prior to the final chapter.
8812f0 No.14989938
>>14982127
Explain Lucina then. She is not clear Waifu bait. If she was, why is it that all she needs is a hijab and she's Sharia approved already?
05afc8 No.14989960
>>14984880
>niggers
fucking dropped
bf9552 No.14990499
>>14989960
Eh, they had a few in Awakening and Path of Radiance.
651bac No.14990564
>>14984880
Well I know which house I am burning down
57e397 No.14990639
This doesn't look good. The battle map they showed looks really plain and boring. I don't like the animations in battle and the npc dudes following the player could really benefit from helmets so at least we don't see them all having the same face. Not sure I want weapon durability back if that means they are just gonna go back to standard boring weapons. I know people bitch about Silvers and some of the Legendary Weapons in Fates but pretty much every other weapon was still really useful. I worry that with weapon durability back it will turn into typical javelin cavalier or handaxe emblem which means archers and mages will be for the most part bottom tier since there is no reason to use them. I also fear there won't be any weird weapons anymore and if there are they will all have terrible durability and limited availability + gimped stats. I also think the character art suffers from lack of personality and the environments you ran around looked bland. Shouldn't have picked a yaoi artist for this.
Were skills in the trailers? Stat debuffs should remain a thing and I'm wondering if trying to tell a war story in a game like this is a mistake since that seems to be what they are going for with having you controlling the commanders of everything. I think these games might have been better off pursuing a more rpg type story and then having giant battles full of npcs/mercs you can purchase for that battle as a set piece type thing. I have a hard time taking enemy commanders seriously in Fire Emblem when they are supposed to be at army level and yet get defeated by a team of 16 plucky heroes. It doesn't help that Fire Emblem just repeats the same enemy commanders every game.
104110 No.14991892
>>14990639
Skills didn't stand out nor were they activated in the trailer. Edelgaard had a skill icon, for what looks like vantage, during the attack selection screen. Debuff is probably removed in favor of the new formation mechanic.
Overall I agree. The world looks bleak and the characters look bland. The overall visuals of the menus and combat text do not really feel aesthetically pleasing either. Feels like they wanted to do the exact opposite of Fates, and their backpedaling might have gone too far. We will have to see how the game shapes over the next 9-11 months.
17d408 No.14991929
>>14989960
>>14990499
Flavia isn't a nigger, she's just tanned. Danved and his brother are niggers, though.
6e422d No.14992103
Is there a way we can voice our concerns directly to Nintendo ?
41975f No.14992168
>>14982127
>complaining about character archetypes
>in JRPGs
You make the archetype and then build a character from there. There's reasons for why certain characters (like Camilla) are the way they are in Fates but that's beside the point since Fates's writing is mostly trash.
The real problem is your thick rose-tinted lenses in looking back on previous FE as if they were Suikoden or Growlanser-teir. They aren't remotely. Most of the plots are jumbled messes or typical Chrono Trigger/FF2 style narratives - which is fine since it's just anime vidya. The point is they pulled it off. Most recent FE's don't, but that's not because of fan service or pander but overall writing (Fates's third route is basically akin to a classic FE story but with less character death).
So for the narrative, so for the characters; they were never anything to write home about and your sissyfit is irritating because it's clear you haven't actually played a lot of intricate jrpg vidya. Just Growlanser 4 stomps the character and storytelling in previous FE games, and though they were handled and executed much better than in Fates, etc. they were not much more than thinly inflated character archetypes with simple character arcs.
That's the issue - a lack of definitive character arcs, not the archetypes.
Hop off it already. You whinging problem-glasses wearing dopes who speak like you know what you're talking about when you can't even format a post properly.
FE was never "Legend of the Galactic Heroes" and you people gotta grow out of that delusion some day.
c8dc46 No.14992172
Looks good. I hope they don't censor it.
e7e9c5 No.14992186
>>14980973
I'm hoping the squad based combat is only during certain engagements and that the writing reflects the fact you're fighting with an army. Three houses makes me think they'll pull a Fates and split the games, but at least with Fates the Nohr route was fun to play. If a similar thing happens we could at least expect one good fire emblem and if it doesn't the game is shaping up to be pretty good.
Holy shit what is the new art-style though? They look even more plastic.
6c85a6 No.14993530
>>14992172
Censorship isn't what I'm afraid of this time. It seems highly likely the game will have a simultaneous release, which would make the cucking seen in Fates much less likely.
No, what I'm worried about is how much input the western side of things had on design. Looking at Edelgard, I find my opinions inconclusive. It's a fairly modest design, but FE has had those before too and that's why I'm waiting to see more of the cast before I say my opinion one way or the other. If the girls all end up modestly cheated and modestly dressed I'd find it highly like the west was responsible.
But again, way too early to tell anything right now
e7e9c5 No.14993563
>>14993530
Honestly it just looks like shit, they hired this Fujoshi who doesn't hold a candle to FE6-15 or hell even some of the older art. Fates had shit that was ruined by localization, this seems shit all around. This is all just a technical aspect too, we haven't even seen anything story related.
Look at Edgelord's eyes for example, despite her head being perfectly horizontal her eyes are angled with one above the other. The blondie too, look at his clothes and the linework on his hair, it looks atrocious.
I don't understand why they couldn't bring any of the older artists back, hell why'd they even stick any of this in the trailer. They've got nine months to fix things and it looks like a shittier version of Tellius.
101a20 No.14995198
>>14995166
we have ids here.
104110 No.14995515
>>14995166
Delete your first posts if you have the need to post three times in a row.
The presentation is shit. If the gameplay is good it can be salvaged. We have seen no gameplay, aside from very basic stuff. It is too early to judge wether it will be complete shit or just displeasing to the eyes.
9642e4 No.14995549
>played FE on the GBA when it came out
>found it pretty good, but the AI was too simplistic, making it more a puzzle game than a strategy one
>check every enemy's range, find a spot only one enemy can reach, put a tank there, enemy attacks the tank, deals close to no damage, then I use my other characters to take him out
>rinse and repeat
>oh well, might be because of GBA's limitations, still a fun game though
>FE comes out on the Game Cube
>oh boy! yes! time for a proper turn-based-grid-strategy game in glorious 3D and charismatic characters
>nope.wmv
>AI and gameplay are just as limited as the GBA
>turns out having enemies that barely move on the map, unless you bait them, is a staple of the series
Fuck FE and any retard that still likes it.
FFTactics did grid-strategy better centuries before FE came out on the GC. There's no excuse to still have piss-poor AI in the current year
5c8a7c No.14995553
>>14993563
But her head isn't horizontal..
104110 No.14995601
>>14995549
Although this is true, most games try to dissuade the player from doing this. Either by having a ranking system based on turn count, bonuses for clearing maps faster, items which are swiped if you do not reach certain treasure chests/villages in time, and reinforcements that ambush you if you do not move quickly away from the deployment point. In some games, enemies move on their own or are placed such that any unit trying to bait is overrun by multiple enemies. If you play on normal difficulty any of these aspects become trivialized.
487b75 No.14996410
>>14989960
I bet you get mad at elves, too.
They aren't real people or even niggers.
cc3229 No.14996472
>>14996410
At least elves are worth raping.
bf9552 No.14996959
>>14992186
Apparently you fight against a church, so the Langrisser comparison is even more accurate.
cc76d6 No.14997172
>2013 and earlier
>fire emblem was something special, an iconic and fun SRPG series full of really good titles
>Awakening releases and sees huge commercial and critical success
>it's a little weird, but not terrible, and fans are happy that the series isn't dead like its sister Wars
>2015 and onward
>everything that could possibly go wrong with Fates does, between the terrible localization and laziness of the devs
>Today, the Fire Emblem series is one of the best examples of what is wrong with Nu-tendo
it is almost impossible for me to feel any kind of hype for fire emblem after these past few years
4029f9 No.14997212
>>14997172
>but not terrible
Its all presentation and polish and no substance.
It was a 6/10 at best, more like a 4-5/10 if we're being fair and that's purely based off quality of presentation and the beginning 10-12 chapters being intriguing in terms of story. The map design was godawful. They added in the worst parts of Sacred Stones (grinding and world maps) along with other bullshit like collectible weapons and whatnot. Only half of the characters were only halfway redeemable with their supports (if you flat-out ignore the fact that they just shove their gimmicks to you in your face for most of them). The map design was terrible, and their idea of high difficulty was giving the enemies broken stats which forced you to pair up your best units and/or just grind.
Awakening was what led in the floodgates.
At least Echoes was faithful in terms of being a faithful remake.
4029f9 No.14997216
>>14997212
Opened the floodgates*
98afc9 No.14997234
>>14984382
She looks like the BLACKED niggerkike porn chick.
1e3f13 No.14997439
>>14997234
get your mind out of the fucking gutter you kike.
>hurr durr every attractive white woman is a niggerlover
stop projecting and gas yourself
d12151 No.14997760
>>14997172
Important detail of the pre-2013 aspect. Marth and Roy in Super Smash meant people started caring about the characters. It meant those iconic and fun SRPG games were released internationally, both on the main Nintendo systems, and on handhelds.
>2015 and onward
Spot on.
e7e9c5 No.14997856
>>14995553
It's not at an incline, yet her eyes are.
17d408 No.14998001
So Ballistas (and other extreme-range enemies) are confirmed to be the most bullshit enemy type in the series, right?
30f744 No.14999848
8-4's twatter confirms they are not localizing the game. This will be a Treehouse work.
d8a5e6 No.14999884
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14997212
>>14997172
Echoes was a little TOO faithful right now to the gameplay and maps but the presentation was god tier really hope this new FE has that level VA work,supports, and setting
038a84 No.14999896
>>14999848
It could still be NoE.
d0d7c5 No.15000153
>>14999848
Meh meh… Meh meh meh meh meh!
Treehouse localization makes an unhappy Nopon.
cb44f0 No.15000674
Some aspects look really cool and other aspects look completely shot desu.
I just wanna start seeing some cool new characters tbh. I actually kinda like Byleth's design for some reason
1cd299 No.15000712
>>14999896
Have they ever worked on FE before?
8c0663 No.15001020
>>14986006
>>14985846
Hidari's work is the best the series has seen. Maybe if they eventually do a remake of Genealogy they can bring him back for that.
12ad74 No.15001025
>>15001020
>Hidari's work is the best the series has seen
He's good but calm your raging erection
1cd299 No.15001059
>>15001020
>>15001038
God damn, those are pretty.
17d408 No.15001076
>>15001025
It's true. That artwork is really good.
104110 No.15001412
>>14999848
Oy boy. Might have to buy the JAP version if it turns out to be Treehouse *if the game even is worth buying*.
>>15001025
The Echoes art style fits perfectly for a game like FE4.
6c85a6 No.15001762
>>14999848
Who did Echos? Was it 8-4? I know it wasn't Treehouse.
a83803 No.15001799
Oh boy, more faggot Divine Dragons being evil and people not noticing it's been obvious for ages that they're setting up naga as the omega-bitch queen of canibalism that she really is.
a83803 No.15002142
>>14997234
Fuck, you're right.
25a500 No.15002158
>>14982127
you're correct. Titania was top tier.
6c84d0 No.15002347
Abandoning sprites was a mistake.
324f51 No.15002417
>>15002347
At least you now see your units fight in an acutal army like how its supposed to and not small skirmishes all the damn time.
Its nothing more than another case of monkeys paw.
3b7a07 No.15002500
>>14990499
And Awakening was trash, so I don't see your point
8e960f No.15002506
>>15002158
One of the reasons I like Camilla is because she was another axe-wielding hot-chick. The excellent tits were just a bonus.
But Titania has that glorious red braid that is just so fucking sexy, and she doesn't wear stupid armour and she's in a better game.
So Titania wins it for me.
cb44f0 No.15003247
idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but the sword the chick has seems to be the same sword or at least related to the sword that the old dude has.
101a20 No.15003301
>>15003247
I'm guessing this will be the Fire Emblem.
ab45ff No.15003777
>>14984382
reminds me of the designs of suikoden V.