13771d No.14974703
i was scared when i aw the team ninja logo that we might get another gaiden and i just dunno if the new team can handle it, Nioh was fun though
5bc8a6 No.14974736
FINALLY THE WEST'S ANSWER TO DARK SOULS 3
da67ea No.14974749
6b1eb7 No.14974758
>turns into a yokai at the end
Is it time for William to become the demon?
5bc8a6 No.14974827
>>14974749
I was really hoing for DMC5 and Ninja Gaiden 4 instead.
da67ea No.14974836
>>14974827
well you got one of those.
a1cf8c No.14974865
>>14974758
I really want a Devil Trigger, ideally even as sort of a global stance that all weapons can activate.
da67ea No.14974943
>>14974865
wouldn't that be the same as the guardian spirit mode thing from the first one though?
7d8b9d No.14974946
It was Mitsunari after defeat in Sekigahara, no?
0c47a0 No.14974950
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14974615
I can dig it. I never actually played the DLC campaigns so I don't know how polished those were but the main game was pretty tasty and I liked the OST.
My only wish is that they figure out a way to touch up on the mission system, I almost sort of liked the distinct levels but the retreads need a little bit of pizazz, it got stale going to Oni Mountain a bunch of times, or that one windy shrine with the underground labyrinth with the same layout. If they could add a little bit more variety it'd be golden.
990d15 No.14974958
>>14974736
>>14974749
*ahem* *clears throat*
Forgetting something are we plebs?
eda509 No.14974972
COMPLETELY ERECT
I AM FUCKING READY FOR ANOTHER COMPLETE BLOWOUT OF FROMSOFT AND THAT HACK MIYAZAKI
a3c8f2 No.14975010
Hopefully there will be more than 3 enemy types in the entire game this time.
709763 No.14975017
>>14974950
They have no excuse for reusing so many maps this time around for the sequel, it felt like I was playing a CH game.
01cca1 No.14975021
>>14974958
unreliable combat though, that ruins it
6169f3 No.14975022
I can't believe they ripping off Dark souls with Samurais again
woah
26fe3d No.14975032
>>14974615
>From swears it won't make a souls game again
>They make a I can't believe it's not Nioh, guaranteeing idiots will extend the meme name of the franchise into soulsbornioh
>Team ninja doesn't give a shit
Can't complain about more games of this type anyway.
a1cf8c No.14975035
>>14974943
I'm hoping they keep the guardian spirits and give us devil trigger
91a842 No.14975074
They didn't show anything what's there to talk about. Still the best game announced at E3 tbh.
6169f3 No.14975090
>>14975074
Nothing but nothing at Sony showed anything, no games besides Kingdom hearts 3 actually had gameplay
343e95 No.14975119
>>14975032
Every person that's seen From's game thinks they are ripping off Nioh, it's fucking hilarious.
9356df No.14975128
This year of E3 will be remembered as the raise of Samurai Souls games.
5bc8a6 No.14975140
>>14974958
Russia isn't part of the West or East though. I guess a three way between the West, East, and Russia would be interesting though.
935a5e No.14975178
>>14974958
Never even heard of it
a60ddb No.14975236
>>14975119
I wonder if either dev team knew the other was working on their current projects. But what I really wanna know is how Team Ninja reacted to fromsoft's reveal.
bfbdc9 No.14975305
eda509 No.14975368
>>14975236
I would think like an elder seeing a younger peer ape his work.
Flattering, but ultimately a pale imotation.
eda509 No.14975379
aa8ad3 No.14975404
>>14975368
>>14975236
They imitate each other at that point
>Nioh is a clone of dark souls
>Dark Samurai Souls is a clone of Nioh
>Nioh 2 is a clone of Dark Samurai Souls
b9201e No.14975416
>>14975032
>soulsbornioh
That sounds like a pokemon
22b5fb No.14975431
If it still has shitty diablo loot i wont buy
eda509 No.14975434
>>14975404
>nioh is a clone of dark souls
Back to reddit with you, shitter.
aa8ad3 No.14975437
990d15 No.14975445
>>14975434
Until the genre gets a name, it's a souls clone
a1cf8c No.14975455
>>14975437
Only in atmosphere-tone and resource management
a60ddb No.14975499
>>14975404
Nioh has that alt-history setting going for it though. Whereas fromsoft's looks to be fantasy. Also, you guys think William and/or Hanzo will show up again? They did dedicate themselves to getting of the onis and amrita things at the end of the last dlc.
eda509 No.14975514
>>14975437
>>14975445
>demons/dark souls invented action RPGs
Do you eat Taco Bell™ on a semi-daily basis?
Did Halo invent FPSes?
aa8ad3 No.14975597
>>14975514
Its not even an rpg you dumb piece of dicks. Its third person megaman with stats.
990d15 No.14975601
>>14975514
Nioh has:
>checkpoints that refill healing items
>interwoven level design with shortcuts
>currency and EXP are one and the same
>currency is lost upon death but can be retrieved
>heavy focus on stamina management
Doesn't make it bad or not fun. Just makes it highly derivative of Souls.
6645e8 No.14975700
>>14975601
>currency and EXP are one and the same
I hope you're just remembering wrong and not lying about knowing anything about the game. Money and Amrita are two seperate things. Amrita is used for leveling, money is used for buying items and crafting/upgrading gear.
eda509 No.14975712
>>14975601
>currency amd xp are one and the same
Okay so you haven't played it.
There's gold, XP, good boy points, skill points, and prestige points.
>shortcuts and interwoven levels
What is a good DnD map, even from 1.0, or Diablo?
>checkpoints that refill
And no warping for faggot bitchbabies. You have to either earn your TPs or sacrifice unspent XP.
Souls games are a good babby's first entry into action RPGs, but still so shallow that it is a fucking joke how retards eat it up after the abortion that was 2.
DeS>DaSPTDE>BB>sewer waste>DaS3>DaS2>DaSRememe'd
Prove me wrong
4d7f90 No.14975770
>>14975712
>Prove me wrong
Why would I do that when you're right?
31e813 No.14975938
>>14974946
Mitsunari got Oni'd on top of mount Ibuki by Kelly.
7b3f83 No.14975941
>>14975601
>checkpoints that refill healing items
Except they don't, the checkpoints only serve as storage. The elixir refill pulls from your storage and is purely a quality of life decision.
>interwoven level design with shortcuts
That's called good level design, it's not unique
>currency and EXP are one and the same
This is objectively false, you have amrita which is effectively EXP, and gold, which is the actual currency and not lost on death
>currency is lost upon death but can be retieved
The implementation is very different but yes, this is the one thing the two games blatantly have in common
>heavy focus on stamina management
Which is not unique to Dark Souls, and Nioh's stamina system is vastly different. Souls' stamina serves to punish and limit aggression, whereas Nioh's stamina system exists solely to punish sloppy inputs.
4d7f90 No.14975998
>>14975941
>>checkpoints that refill healing items
>Except they don't, the checkpoints only serve as storage. The elixir refill pulls from your storage and is purely a quality of life decision.
So exaclty like Bloodborne?
31e813 No.14976080
>>14975941
>>14975998
It's actually both BB and DS style healing item at once.
4d7f90 No.14976112
>>14976080
I've never played DeS. My PS3 bricked. When emulation can run it at 1080p 60fps with no errors, I'll go play it.
96f2f2 No.14976229
>>14974615
Nioh 2 just needs more enemies, a lot more enemies and a lot more churayzee.
9b8a8c No.14976236
>>14975712
You're right but you're missing BBOHE which is above DeS.
0e3479 No.14976267
>>14976080
I was gonna say this, You actually get 8 Elixirs per level by default if you saved enough Kodamas, but elixirs refill from storage if you haven't done that yet
e0fbd0 No.14976275
THE YEAR OF THE SAMURAI
>Sekiro
>Tsushima
>this
And there will surely be more samurai related content aimed at TGS.
31e813 No.14976281
File: dc67cc7f6b63fa8⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 814.95 KB, 600x784, 75:98, kanazuchibou-okka-watermar….png)
>>14976229
Well there's a ton more youkai they could use, even considering that they split youkai between enemies and guardian spirits.
25455b No.14976301
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14975437
If anything it's more like Ninja Gaiden than Dark Souls.
e0fbd0 No.14976317
How do you even know that's William in the trailer or that he will be in Nioh 2 at all? I'm betting it takes place at least 100 years after the first one.
31e813 No.14976337
>>14976317
It would make more sense for it to take place earlier in the Sengoku period rather than the Edo period.
96f2f2 No.14976387
>>14976301
It doesn't really play like a ninja gaiden, you can't jump and do a flying swallow or grab people.
31e813 No.14976414
>>14976317
Having looked at the trailer again I'm pretty confident that the character isn't William. He has black hair and he's not wearing Will's Youngblood set.
If I had to guess then I would say the plot of this game will have something to do with Shuten-dōji.
25455b No.14976584
>>14976387
It's more like Ninja Gaiden than Dark Souls.
b79881 No.14976647
>>14975712
>Souls games are a good babby's first entry into action RPGs
For all I know there are action games more difficult than Souls games, but Nioh definitely isn't one of them. I think I beat at least a quarter of the bosses on my first try. I know for a fact I beat six in a row on my first try because I counted. Dark Souls III was significantly harder for me than Nioh, albeit for the wrong reasons. Myriad multi-phase bosses and attacks that have multiple animation durations and take a fifth of a second to complete are largely why DaS III was hard at points.
Ultimately my problems with Nioh are the lack of enemy variety, the content padding, the grinding incentives, and the setting, story, and characters being pretty dull. The first three issues especially are worse than just being too easy. Nioh would have benefited from a lot of the time-wasting side content and weird "defeat this boss three times to unlock this character information" being cut out of the game. Sacrificing novelty and variety for the sake of quantity isn't a wise decision, as far as I'm concerned.
Nioh definitely has many features like the level selection, encyclopedia, randomized loot, etc. that set it apart from the Souls games so I wouldn't say it's a clone, a rip-off, or totally derivative. However, it seems obvious to me that the Souls games influenced the development of Nioh. The camera itself, the style of lock-on combat, the RPG elements, shrines and bonfires behaving similarly, the "bloodstain" system, etc. seem like a clear influence.
63c32b No.14976734
>>14976387
You can do Izuna Drops though.
31e813 No.14976875
>>14976647
Nioh ends up being "easier" than the Souls games because you are so much faster and more agile. Nioh's combat is basically a faster Bloodborne but with functional blocking.
All of the various skills and magics also give you more opportunity to cheese things once you manage to unlock them.
If you played Nioh in high stance only with heavy armor and weapons and minimal skills allocated I'm willing to bet that that it would be harder than Dark Souls. Really there's just enough differences between the two games that a true comparison is difficult.
000000 No.14976877
Btw does PC NIOH1 have mouse support?
I just don't know whenever I can possibly enjoy it.
63c32b No.14976928
>>14976875
The fact that Onmyo and Ninpo can be the primary focus of your build in Nioh is something I quite like but it can really turn that game into "press the left dpad to win" with the exception of some particularly high health bosses. Getting to that point of build optimization though is fun in and of itself I found.
>>14976877
It didn't on launch, they patched it in.
0e3479 No.14976946
>>14976875
It's strange, I remember in Alpha it was actually easier to play in Heavy Armor High stance Axe.
Perhaps the changes they did were good
63c32b No.14976961
>>14976946
I think they had the low stance's ki dash allocated to the high stance back then. I remember using high stance axe the whole alpha because I could ki dash through the attacks of the bosses and just stack massive damage.
2e69f0 No.14976964
>>14974958
>the surge
isn't that game absolutely shit though?
f1dd8c No.14976985
>>14976928
>The fact that Onmyo and Ninpo can be the primary focus of your build in Nioh is something I quite like but it can really turn that game into "press the left dpad to win" with the exception of some particularly high health bosses. Getting to that point of build optimization though is fun in and of itself I found.
ninjustu yeah but onmyo scaled so poorly in way of the wise it not worth getting anything but spirit-charging and self-buffs.
but you can make tenten jealous with how many ninjustu items you can reload with every living weapon.
000000 No.14977120
>>14976964
Yes.
I do think that it would be easily fine if they just added plenty of firearms, this pipe swinging gets old in 5 minutes and it doesn't make sense in the future setting.
7f1207 No.14977161
>>14976964
It wasn't a great game but it was good in a B-movie kind of way.
31e813 No.14977703
Found a cleaner version of the trailer.
1f711a No.14978039
That's good and all but will the PC version work this time?
c09657 No.14978061
Pretty happy to see a second game. One of the things I think hold the first game back was that few amount of levels and their design. They were kind of lackluster, and going through them so many times just made their fault more obvious. Of course it probably was a consequence of it troubled development, so hopefully Nioh 2 fix this. Also more enemy variety would be great too. The trailer reminded me of Onimusha, what with what looks like demonic transformations and shit. I'm very interested in it.
8c381e No.14978296
Nioh is not a souls game, it's a loot and stats grinding game, you can't complete Nioh without leveling up and grinding gear, you constantly have to take time off to manage, sell and disassemble the fucktons of randomized junk gear the game throws at you, half of the playtime is item management and grinding boring numbers.
Honestly I don't get why you fags hype it so much, the combat may be deeper than Dark Souls but it's behind layers upon layers of shitty grinding mechanics far worse than any other souls clone.
And for a Team Ninja game it doesn't even have tiddies.
9356df No.14978340
>>14976275
Did China lift their ban on samurai stuff or something?
31e813 No.14978353
>>14978296
There is no need to do any grinding until you gen into NG+.
>you can't complete Nioh without leveling up
熟練する
f21d71 No.14978354
>>14978296
How the fuck is grinding even real just use your best sword and git gud.
7f1207 No.14978356
>>14978296
> RIP Team Ninja titties
Fucking DOA doesn't have titties any more. If they ever make a Ninja Gaiden I'm sure the ladies will be wearing burkas as they remove the Great Satan from the Middle East.
0e0947 No.14978368
>>14974836
Funny way to write DmC™2
31e813 No.14978374
File: a47898d84602af6⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.22 MB, 680x929, 680:929, There go my nipples again.png)
>>14978356
>no tiddies
Did we play the same game?
60a021 No.14978383
Ideally this is what they do
>New weapon types
>Even more combo options
>More magic and ninjitsu
>More enemy variety
>Far less loot hell
>Less grinding for key items such as smithing texts
7f1207 No.14978384
>>14978374
I was referring to the fact that the DOA devs asked the FGC (full of furries and social mob justice faggots) about DOA and they said they were "too embarassed" to play as the female characters and they wanted them covered up, so chasing those non-existent eSports bucks Team Ninja has decided the next DOA game will not have sexy outfits and, from what video was shown, won't even have boob jiggle.
31e813 No.14978392
>>14978384
That's pretty stupid. But then again e-sports and the FGC live at the zenith of stupidity so it's not much of a surprise.
8c381e No.14978434
>>14978374
First is a single boss and rather modest.
Second barely shows a bit of sideboob.
And you already ran out because you just made a shitty joke with the third one.
Of the first two, only Fuku is playable and she's DLC and requires shittons of grinding to unlock.
Nioh is very lacking in the tiddy department, this can't be denied.
31e813 No.14978442
>>14978383
>New weapon types
Certainly. We never even got a naginata. Nor those cool revolvers that Saika clan used.
>More enemy variety
One would hope. Although the pure variety of enemies in Nioh wasn't actually that bad. The problem was their placement. After you encountered an enemy the first time youcould expect to see them in every area thereafter.
>Less grinding for key items such as smithing texts
Smithing texts shouldn't be even gated behind RNG at all. They should be purely rewards for completing missions or hidden as loot. Text grinding was horrible. I should know since I did it before the Abyss was implemented.
9bd1ba No.14978443
>>14978296
You don't need to do any grinding until Way of the Strong and doing soul matching and shit isn't worth it before you get to it. You can also get good gear off of just farming revenants. Caring too much about enchantments and looking for a good set is again irrelevant until you get to NG+.
6013f3 No.14978452
>>14975140
<Russia isn't part of the West or East though.
>Implying Asia isn't the East
8c381e No.14978475
>>14978353
>>14978354
>>14978443
Even if you try to pass yourselves as "I''m so hurrrcore I kill every boss without using the attack button" the game is still constantly dumping junk gear on you and is built around grinding, all the grinding mechanics are unlocked during NG and you can't ignore all the junk management because your inventory is limited and it gets filled up in just a couple of missions, and it has room for 500 fucking items, that's the level of junk drop spam we're dealing with here.
60a021 No.14978489
>>14978442
Nioh was great but too big. That's why the weapon variety suffers, the enemy variety suffers and the reason grinding was there in the first place. Too much fluff they need to get rid of.
31e813 No.14978495
>>14978475
>you can't ignore all the junk management because your inventory is limited and it gets filled up in just a couple of missions
Didn't for me. I sold, disassembled, or donated it all as I accumulated it.
8c381e No.14978507
>>14978495
>you can't ignore all the junk management
>I sold, disassembled, or donated it
That's junk management you mongoloid.
9bd1ba No.14978513
>>14978475
You can just offload all the garbage you don't need either at the blacksmith or at the teahouse. You make it seem like you have to spend half a fucking hour after every fucking mission when you can just press R2 and be done with it. I only looked over Divines and once I got to them, Ethereals which may have good inheritables, all other junk I just sold or disassembled. The only problems which I admit are sitting in front of your screen for 10 minutes just so you get all the enchantments you want for your one piece of gear, and if you plan on running anything other than Red Demon/WotW set you're pretty much fucked when it comes to farming armor sets and their smithing texts. I ran a ninjitsu build and thankfully there's a moderate amount of revenants who ran the Iga Ninja set because the smithing text drop chances are by far the lowest in the Dojo missions. I later switched to Dragon Ninja set and I had to farm Jin Hayabusa for about an hour so I can finally get the smithing text for the fucking Hayabusa Kusarigama. And it's not like you can cheese Jin as easily as most other human bosses.
8c34bb No.14978560
>>14974615
Are we getting our tasty thighs back?
Was it announced for pc too? or is another play-station "exclusive"?
Hopefully they give us more enemies and environments variety since it what I feel the first game really lacked, maybe polish the combat and combos some more
4a38ef No.14978650
>>14978560
The trailer was just made to let people know that it's coming, nothing else was elaborated on really.
7f4fbe No.14978752
If none of you know that's probably Nobunaga in the trailer.
He has a legend where he was shot through the throat with an arrow and the he ripped it out snapped the arrow in half and jam.ed it in his head to represent devil horns.
30d9f8 No.14978814
>>14978752
We've already seen what Nobunaga looks like in Nioh.
The demon the the samurai turns into is also just a basic enemy you encounter, so this trailer really doesn't tell us anything.
b47bea No.14979268
>>14975941
>Which is not unique to Dark Souls, and Nioh's stamina system is vastly different. Souls' stamina serves to punish and limit aggression, whereas Nioh's stamina system exists solely to punish sloppy inputs.
I never had trouble with stamina-management as soon as i learned how to Ki-pulse. The combat is vastly different than Dark Souls (it's more fun).
b47bea No.14979277
>>14976281
>TFW we will never get a giant foot that will come through the roof and demand you to clean it.
b34b7e No.14979348
>>14978560
I'd slay Fuku's pussy right after I slay her Nue
878339 No.14979665
>>14978650
Well from the little I know of Japanese I could tell it's going to be released from June to August 2019
60a021 No.14979670
>>14979268
>The combat is vastly different than Dark Souls (it's more fun)
This big time. In one game they outdid what From have been doing for five. The stance system, combos, combo customization, Living Weapon, positioning and Ki pulse makes the combat much more engaging and tactical. It was so damn satisfying being at just the right spot to deliver a high stance heavy attack with an axe onto a Yokai's horns and floor him.
>>14979611
I fucking hope Shinkiro has no lore to piece together or dig for so that faggot Vaati pisses off forever.
6fdd25 No.14979711
8bb49b No.14979747
>>14979611
>normalfags invade nioh
>can't play cuz muh difficulty and muh souls veteran
>finally have action rpg without cancer community
can a man dream?
042a64 No.14979834
Fuck yes, one of my all time favorite games; I'm hoping there's more enemy variety this time though
a1cf8c No.14980086
>>14979747
>Muh souls veteran
That was by far the funniest part to me. All those people complaining of high poise and health enemies, how they could never find a chance to attack and whining about how they kept getting critted because they couldn't manage their stamina for shit were hilarious.
60a021 No.14980087
>>14979747
Nioh is certainly more niche compared to DS/BB.
f1dd8c No.14981805
>>14976964
>isn't that game absolutely shit though?
yes and no, mechanics are great in theory.
in reality it's a buggy mess with two good boss fights and some fun weapons you can't do anything fun with since everything falls into 1 of 2 categories, gormless meat-shield and 1-hp instant-death fodder.
>>14979747
hopefully they fix the net code and add more PvP modes.
3e512a No.14981885
>>14979665
You might have meant to reply to another anon, but that poster is for a figure of William, not the game.
b47bea No.14983947
>>14979670
Or going in one swoop from low-stance dodge, to the back of the opponent and then one or two high-stance attacks, back into low-stance and a Ki-pulse dodge.
All in the same combo basically. It just felt so smooth.
7e4acf No.14984878
>>14978296
>>14978475
>>14978507
They're responding to your shitty argument you idiot. You act like the "management" is something that takes fucking forever to do and has to be done after each and every mission. When in reality it takes less than thirty seconds, and that's with a full inventory. Face it. You're hyperbolizing trivial things or things that are basically the same in any other game just to try and make it look like issues. You can complete Nioh without leveling up and grinding gear just like you can complete Dark Souls without leveling up and grinding gear. It's going to be hard as fuck, but you can still do it.
738aca No.14984957
>>14974615
Great, we might get a functioning pc port this time. What a time to be alive
dde87d No.14985282
>>14984957
Don't hope for too much anon
0e0947 No.14985955
>character creation biggest issue
<not the borked loot system
Yeah nah, fuck you too.
b3fd1d No.14986048
>>14985955
<More than one tier of item rarity?
<THIS IS NOT MY MIYAZAKI MASTERPIECE COLLECTION
You could have said the drop rates need working, but the rarity tiers are just fine.
If Diablo loot bothers you so much, go back to miyazaki town.
I hear they have a huge population of "skilled gamers"
0e0947 No.14986170
>>14986048
>he dared criticize most honorabru zipangu souls
>the only logical conclusion could be that he loves miyazaki's dick in his ass
>yep, no other possible reason
Eat shit and die anytime, you fuckin' fruit.
Go drown in a literal sea of peasant pantsu and +1% rifle-dmg tonfa, you genetic deadend. :^)
Don't even bother replying, I'm done with (You)
7e4acf No.14986229
>>14986170
>d-don't respond!
>I got the last word s-sure showed that anon!
absolute legend, Nioh 2 cancelled
4386b0 No.14986244
>>14979834
>You've played 911 hours
b3fd1d No.14986256
>>14986170
>souls
>nioh
>a souls game
>tumblrm/a/tsu-san reaction
>>>/reddit/
>>>/cuckchan/
2/10 bait, go wait out your ban elsewhere, faggot
Post this cursed image over there when your ban expires, it will bring untold (You)s as far as the eye can see!
08bffe No.14986259
>>14984957
>functioning pc port
It's still KT, you can hope for a lot of things, but a good port that doesn't need patches isn't one of them.
d3d62d No.14986543
>>14986256
>nioh
>not being reworked after being in development hell for years to be similar to an action RPG that was selling well at the time
https://archive.is/ZC2aQ
The devs have mentioned it in interviews that games like Ninja Gaiden, Onimusha, and Diablo had some influence in the version we got, but the most recognizable one at first glance to most players since a minority who picked this game up probably played any of the above will be DS. Nioh is different in a lot of ways, but without the souls games forming some simple framework to put all the mechanics it adds to the formula the Nioh we know would probably look a lot different or not have come out at all.
b3fd1d No.14986608
>>14986543
>caring what the masses think
>caring about the masses at all
>not playing diablo, or 2 for that matter
Where do (You) think we are, (1)-san?
eb8710 No.14986648
>Nioh 2
>Signified with demon horns
>Not called Nioh 02, or "Oh-ni"
f06eb3 No.14986660
>>14975712
DaS2 is still better than Remastered as a game but in experience will always be Remastered because the community for 2 is gone.
31e813 No.14987303
>>14975712
Two different sets of prestige points at that.
ec0e3a No.14987787
I really fucking hope they remove forced grinding and shitty loot system outta it.
Nioh's combat was so much better than souls, but it was ruined by mmo-tier layers of grind dropped on it.
e2f8dc No.14987811
I just beat the ogress and what the fuck man I get hit by her once and it takes half my god damn health bar. What do I have to do to get better gear? I know you can break shit down to get materials, but I don't know what's worth crafting. I just want to be able to survive for more than 3 hits god dammit.
ec0e3a No.14987832
>>14987811
Yeah that's the problem with the game.
Run earlier stages, grind some levels, get some spells and upgrade armor and weapons.
Fun part is you can't easily overlevel yourself so you could just one shot the boss, because higher gear and upgrade levels only unlock after you reach certain points of game/NG+.
3821ec No.14987855
>>14987811
>getting hit by ogress
gitgud
e2f8dc No.14987875
>>14987832
>grind grind grind
Alright. I guess I want to know if there's a certain armor set/weapon you can recommend that is pretty good. If not, then tell me which passive effects I should give a fuck about when I decide to craft something.
>>14987855
>git gud
Hey, you retard, did you miss the part where I said I just beat her? I did git gud
ec0e3a No.14987928
>>14987875
Fuck I don't remember the specifics.
I think the best early game set is red something something, it's medium armor you get from dueling spear dude in dodjo.
c010b2 No.14987935
>>14987811
Forge and soul match for the most optimal gear you can and take advantage of set bonuses. Choose the guardian spirit that best matches your build and level it up. Most builds can spec into magic, you don't need to invest much. This is for basic buffs and debuffs that make any fight a bit easier.
0e3479 No.14988109
>>14987928
Red Demon, Basically Red Demon/WoTW were the end all be all sets until Way of the Demon and even then they're part of a lot of mixed sets provided you get your Yasakani
I hope this time around they balance things better, they nerfed a lot of fun builds far too late in their life so by the time it got a PC port, all I ever saw anyone do was LW Kusa builds. Killed a lot of fun there.
b34b7e No.14988260
>>14987875
>sets
Depends on your playstyle, anon. Which weapon do you use and do you prefer ninjitsu or magic?
30d9f8 No.14988277
>>14987935
Do not soul match at early levels. The price gets insane later on if you keep soul matching early game gear.
It's better to just use w/e drops until you hit Divine tier gear, just make sure your encumbrance is A/B so you don't burn Ki like a lardass. There aren't any good sets between Red Demon til you hit Divine, so just use some pieces from that + Fire Dog (or w/e guardian you like really) and you're set.
b34b7e No.14988342
>>14988277
Dubs of truth. I played my first playthrough blind and soul matching is a huge waste of money. The best route is to go the noob way and just get shit from Revenants, Red Demon armor if you're running light armor or Warrior of the West if you're running medium. You really shouldn't use heavy armor early on.
In short, the only thing you should use the blacksmith for before you hit Way of the Strong is offloading your crap and reforging a particularly garbage enchantment on a piece of gear, but you shouldn't get too attached to it as it'll get obsolete after 2 main missions.
After you get to NG+, then you should really give a lot of thought to your build (also a good time to buy a book of reincarnation) and what sets you will want and what enchantments you want and hope that you also get a piece of gear with a good inheritable enchantment so you can soul match it onto your primary weapon. Just make sure that they don't have the same kind of enchantment or it'll go to waste. For example you can't make your weapon inherit Change to Attack (Dexterity) if it already has Change to Attack (Heart).
31e813 No.14989287
>>14978383
>More enemy variety
I forgot to mention that one of my only real disappointments about the enemies is that these little guys could only turn into one eyed oni or snowclops' instead of being able to turn into anything.
96a7b5 No.14989327
I beat the game on launch month and stopped playing just before the release of the first free DLC. I know at this point there is a lot of DLC I've missed out on, but cane someone summarize what I've missed? Want to know if it is worth diving back in.
As much as I liked the game, I haven't replayed it because I've never been much for NG+ or similar mores, and making a new character feels pointless and punishing because it's just William again and so many of the abilities I got used to fighting with would have to be unlocked again. It's not like Souls games where I can make a new character any time and never feel like I'm missing something by starting over.
4cd15e No.14989363
>>14989287
They should transform into the enemy you've died the most to.
ee30f3 No.14989411
>>14989327
You don't need to unlock the skills and redo your stats, unless you want to with an in game item. And if you do it's just a reset, you keep all Weapon, Ninjitsu and Onmyo points as well as amrita. I thought the DLC was pretty fun with some new youkai to fight, more maps, historical bosses and guardian spirits.
31e813 No.14989480
>>14989327
>Odachi and tonfa, several new armor sets + an assortment of individual equipment pieces
>3 new ninja sets one of which is the Ninja Gaiden armor
>several new smithing texts
>several new GS including moth girl
>the ability to equip dual GS
>a few new items
>the Abyss (think chalice dungeons) that allow you to grind materials and texts easier
>female skins
>the ability to donate loot to your clan
>ethereal tier armor which comes with something like 20 new set bonuses that appear on non special armors
>several new onmyo an ninja skills
>rebalancing of offensive magic and skills that make them useful (at least until you reach the higher NG+ modes)
>new bosses and enemies
>more things to put you frequent customer points into at the smith
>an alternate method to reforge called tempering that gives you better control over the outcome
>a few extra missions in earlier regions
>a weapon and a helmet that allow you to reset soul matching costs of armor and weapons
b79881 No.14989498
>>14976875
I think your explanation of why Nioh seems easier than Dark Souls was very thoughtful and makes a lot of sense. However, despite that explanation, I don't think it's improper to say Nioh is easier than Dark Souls III. I could say Pikmin is easier than Nioh and it would still be true despite them being totally different games. In any case, I'm not really that bothered about the relative ease of some of Nioh's bosses. The padding, grinding, and lack of variety are really what mar what would otherwise be an excellent game.
>>14986608
The interview that anon linked quoted Yasuda, the creative director, acknowledging that the Souls games inspired aspects of Nioh.
b3fd1d No.14989512
>>14989498
And when your product outperforms your inspiration on virtually every level, comparing it to the inspiration would be insulting.
There really arent that many things they have in common that aren't genre standard things (stats, levels, exp, gold, etc)
Bottom line is this: Nioh saw what Miyazaki was trying to do with souls, achieved that, and then some.
In terms of deep action gameplay that rewards skill, good RPG mechanics, and actual weapon/skill diversity, Nioh has Miyazaki beat. He cannot recpver from this.
b4e4da No.14990441
From the interview with director Fumihiko Yasuda:
On his goal for Nioh 2…
Yasuda: “My goal for Nioh 2 would be a natural evolution, not a dramatic change or deterioration. In the first title, although we were very happy with how it was received, there were things that we could not have accomplished at the same time. So I’d like to strengthen what we did well, while at the same time fix some of the issues that we couldn’t do in time. That’s what I’d like to see happen in Nioh 2.”
On lessons learned in the original Nioh…
Yasuda: “Team Ninja is known for creating action games, but Nioh on the other hand was our first action RPG. So I’d say that in some of the game balancing and RPG departments, as well as some of the updates, there were certain issues that players might not have necessarily been happy with, so that’s something I’d like to improve upon and do better this time.”
On Nioh 2‘s story connections with the original Nioh…
Yasuda: “Yes, it ties in with the story of the first game—like the time and setting, those we will reveal in the days to come. But while I feel that those who have never played the original Nioh can enjoy the story, people who did can even more so enjoy it.
“And this is just sales talk, but Nioh is on sale right now, so we’d like to invite people who have never tried the game before to give it a try.”
On how feedback from the first game influenced development on Nioh 2…
Yasuda: “We did two demos before the first Nioh was launched, and we’re truly grateful for all the feedback from our fans. But having said that, after the game launched, one of the biggest requests that we had was character creation. And that’s something we’re going to implement in Nioh 2. Players will definitely be able to customize all the details, including gender and race.”
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On what sets Nioh apart from other third-party action games…
Yasuda: “In general, I think it’s the close quarters combat system. We have certain elements that are very uniquely Japanese, such as the ki pulse and the weapon stances. In addition to that, maybe the fact that both the player and the enemy have a stamina bar. That’s probably something unique to Nioh.”
On the teaser trailer…
Yasuda: “Players can probably tell that the next protagonist actually possesses the power of yokai. We’ve seen samurai-versus-yokai and samurai-versus-samurai before, but this time around we’re going to have yokai-versus-samurai and yokai-versus-yokai as well, so you’ll be able to feel some of the yokai skills and moves, which should bring the action system to the next level.”
On the most important thing the team needs to get right with Nioh 2…
Yasuda: “First of all, as a masocore game, we’ll make it satisfying again, but in that we want to have more satisfying deaths for players. And while Team Ninja will do its best to bring everybody the best product, we don’t want it to be just our subjective opinion. So as we did with Nioh, we’ll release a free demo to for everyone again to get feedback and make this game right.”
And a message to fans…
Lee: “First of all, we want to thank everyone for making Nioh a success. And having said that, I think just to kind of draw a comparison of where we were and where we’re at, I think with Nioh it was our first time getting into that genre. And to be quite honest, as part of our team, we were a little bit cautious and it was sort of trepidatious in that sense. I think this time around, with the experience that we gained, and obviously all the encourage and support that we have, we’ve gained a lot of confidence as well. And thinking back, there were a lot of things that we didn’t get to do. But this time around, I guess the simple way for me to put this is, the glove are off, we’re going to go in hard. And so I hope the fans are ready for it, because I think this experience is going to be close to what we really had in mind. So I can’t wait for you guys to play it.”
I sat out of the first game because it was too much historic reenactment for my tastes, game is advertised on the premise of fighting youkai and then it's all "now fight famous Sengoku Jidai name #53 to #76". Hopefully this will give history the finger and be its own thing.
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b1a2eb No.14990508
>>14990441
>Players will definitely be able to customize all the details, including gender and race
>gender and race
Team Ninja and Japan really have become pozzed by SJWs after all.
b4e4da No.14990549
Holy shit! I just had a epiphany and set myself up for massive disappointment. Grill + Youkai power = Oni-ko
6fdd25 No.14990552
>>14976875
>Nioh ends up being "easier" than the Souls games because you are so much faster and more agile.
Nope. You die in 3 hits tops in Nioh and have a very thight healing window, you can tank a dozen in any Soulsborne game though.
f2192e No.14990612
>>14990549
I would like to see something slender and naughty, like that Fate oni.
b4e4da No.14990649
>>14990612
My basketball-american. I'm not flat chicks but boy does she get my motor running.
4d7f90 No.14991893
>>14990441
>Yasuda: “We did two demos before the first Nioh was launched, and we’re truly grateful for all the feedback from our fans. But having said that, after the game launched, one of the biggest requests that we had was character creation. And that’s something we’re going to implement in Nioh 2. Players will definitely be able to customize all the details, including gender and race.”
Samuria lolis fucking when?
60a021 No.14992136
>>14990441
I just checked, Nioh isn't on sale.
96a7b5 No.14992170
b4d18a No.14992174
>>14992136
Are you from the US? It's on sale on the Europoor store
60a021 No.14992240
>>14992174
UK, not on Steam at least.
b4d18a No.14992262
>>14992240
Oh. They must be referring to the Bloodbornebox sale then.
0b11a3 No.14992287
Is Nioh worth finishing? Got kinda bored of it right after that water slime boss. Any particularly fun builds?
e2f8dc No.14992294
The game keeps fucking freezing on me. Why does this happen. It's annoying as fuck.
ca67cd No.14992340
>>14992287
>got bored after umi bozu
You made it through about 20% of NG.
The real fun starts on NG++
Don't be too disheartened, if you aren't shit at vidya, NG+ is a pretty quick run through. NG++ is also relatively quick to beat, but that is when you start to see the buffed enemies and other fun shit.
c010b2 No.14992362
>>14990441
>Players will definitely be able to customize all the details, including gender and race
I don't feel this is necessary. I liked William as a character and the costumes worked fine if I wanted to look at someone else. I hope this isn't to the exclusion of the protagonist actually being a character rather than a empty shell for the player to self insert as. Loli Oni would be cool though.
>>14992287
I started with an Odachi build and kept a Kusarigama on the side but as I played fell into a full on ninja build and replaced my Odachi with Tonfa. People generally don't like the Tonfa but it's got my favourite move set and there's a set that has explosions in the second DLC. It dealt fire damage through the explosions and I could put another element on the tonfa themselves and potentially inflict confusion on bosses. I think I later dropped the extra element for more optimal damage later on but the tonfa/kusarigama ninja build was my favourite.
60a021 No.14992655
>>14992340
I couldn't be bothered to even do NG+. I usually find NG+ to be boring in most games.
>>14992287
Axes, lots of strength, Kato or the fire tiger spirit for big boost to heavy attacks. I think full Ebony set for even more big damage or the set of the fat guy with the axe you do side missions for and against.
>>14992262
Unsurprising.
31e813 No.14993113
>>14991893
>Samuria lolis fucking
I like how you think anon.
2f6750 No.14994040
I played my first 10min of Nioh at a random booth today. Seriously if I had money I would have bought on the spot, I had no idea it was THAT fun.
337ac3 No.14994079
>>14994040
Did you not play the first one? Give us some details. Are they sticking with the 3 stance system and what were the weapon choices etc.
2f6750 No.14994134
>>14994079
Oh, sorry, I was talking about the first one, I'm not at E3.
337ac3 No.14994140
>>14994134
>at a random booth
>not at E3
What?
6de8dd No.14994145
>>14994140
I hear gay clubs have really nice gloryholes these days
31e813 No.14994156
>>14994040
It gets even more fun once you actually get to Japan.