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File: 7f8b06f3202fd0d⋯.png (236.48 KB, 1296x739, 1296:739, DwarfFortress.png)

File: 7eb95befe7fa104⋯.png (1.6 MB, 1599x902, 39:22, wtfamireadingTHEGAME.png)

e554c9 No.14915628

Have you ever played a game that intentionally hid what you were supposed to do, the controls, the goal, etc, and taking the gameplay from trying to figure out how the fuck you're even supposed to 'play' the game? Where part of the challenge is how the game hides things from you to ambush you with consequences you weren't expecting at all? Do you find this fun, or challenging in a meaningful way?

6de954 No.14915743

Beats me, its probably the same retards that think obtuse means deep when all of it is just incoherent nonsense in order to give a false illusion of looking deep, just pretentious wankery


758bae No.14915753

>Abloo bloo the game doesn't tell me what I'm supposed to do

Then figure it out, or do whatever you want. Dorf Fort isn't intentionally obtuse, toady1 is just autistic. He made the game he wants to play.

And losing is fun, faggot.


13da18 No.14916721

DF isn't intentionally obtuse, it's just made by an autist with skewed priorities.


086df7 No.14916740

>>14915753

>And losing is fun, faggot.

Spoken like a true Europoor


d7ef58 No.14916762

Abstruse. Don't be one of those retards.


664ce7 No.14916788

File: addc1b51dbeb317⋯.jpg (11.78 KB, 255x255, 1:1, 1441179427749-3.jpg)

>>14916740

>Spoken like a true Europoor

>Being this new


e2563c No.14916792

>>14916788

What's your implication supposed to be.


8f0956 No.14916797

File: f8125f9c7f70b7e⋯.gif (539.97 KB, 500x519, 500:519, starve.gif)

does don't starve count?


5f6229 No.14917012

>>14915628

>dorf fort

>any roguelike

>any clasic western rpg


30808c No.14917014

File: 95b0359b3369b48⋯.jpg (21.21 KB, 600x600, 1:1, healthism.jpg)

>>14917012

> you picked the wrong stats at the start of the game so you're completely fucked after playing halfway through the game lol noob git gud xDD

I love WRPGs but seriously fuck every single one that pulled this god damn horse shit.


ee8893 No.14917032

>>14916797

I could never get the hang of don't starve.

My friends were like "well shit it's easy just follow me and do what i do"

and then i lose them and get fucked.


17c511 No.14917070

This is commonly called a "casual filter". That you failed to recognize this concept speaks volumes more about yourself than about the games you flail at hopelessly.

tldr git gud and go back to >>/reddit/


06e7c9 No.14918007

>>14916792

>>14916740

it's literally a line written on the main menu of Dorf Fort, you fucking retard

>>>/cuckchan/


b29285 No.14918032

File: 850e5e8521208ed⋯.jpg (240.03 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, remnant.jpg)

>>14915628

this FUCKING game is the fucking pinnacle of obfuscated RPG mechanics. Actually obfuscated is probably the wrong word, the game just flat out refuses to help you in any way. There is:

No indication what stats do, and every character has a fifth stat that's unique to them and noone knows what it does to this fucking day

No indication what level or exp means

No indication as to how damage is calculated

how skills work

how skills improve

how you learn new skills

what classes do

how you change class

what equipment does

how you learn equipment skills

how your allies change equipment

how you make skills appear in battle (it's literally just random)

enemy spawn conditions

enemy drop conditions

Notably a lot of the 'guild tasks' require you to go to a certain location and kill a certain enemy that only spawns some of the time. Problem is there's ZERO indication of what the enemy LOOKS LIKE, WHERE it spawns, and if it HAS spawned. Spawns are set when you load an area, so you could explore an entire fucking zone and kill everything only to find the enemy was never there. What's worse is the unique enemies occasionally LOOK IDENTICAL TO ENEMIES ALREADY IN THE ZONE, so if you don't use a guide you'd literally have to kill everything in every area of a zone (which are fuckhuge most of the time) to be sure you haven't got the ONE enemy you're looking for, which might only have something like a 10% chance of spawning in the first place. Absolute fucking ridiculous bullshit.

There's definitely more but i'm already at wall of text status. Worst part is I kinda enjoyed the game but to not fuck everything up you basically have to have the wiki open next to you constantly. I don't know how anyone played this before all the resources existed


b29285 No.14918036

>>14918032

oh yeah, the game lets you put units in 'formations' which have a very brief and shitty explanation (basically formations give the units stat boosts). However all the formations do sweet fuck all unless you use specific race/class combinations in specific numbers which is, of course, completely unexplained. Without a guide you could spend HOURS swapping units in and out and have no fucking idea how to improve formations because the required classes are incredibly fucking obscure most of the time


5cae34 No.14918047

>>14915628

>>14917012

>game that intentionally hid what you were supposed to do, the controls, the goal

>dorf fort

>any roguelike

dorf fort and roguelikes never do that

>>14915628

dark souls with obscure "lore", old EVE Online with nonexistent tutorial, Warframe that doesn't tell you anything and more than half of the game only exists on a wiki pages

Dotes, more specifically wc3 and starcraft, with some minor mechanics you just supposed to figure out somehow (aggro, patrol micro, flying stacking, decloacking)


8f0956 No.14918061

File: 678dfd06d73b0f8⋯.mp4 (7.98 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, trap adventure 2 中段見てからしゃが….mp4)

>>14917032

it's weird knowing dont starve ended up with multiplayer, and that's some people's first experience

> To further the game's atmosphere of loneliness and directionlessness, Klei decided firmly against multiplayer gameplay.[citation needed] However, in December 2014, after numerous requests, Klei finally released the multiplayer version of the game titled "Don't Starve Together" on steam early access after an initial closed beta release.

even found a 2014 wikia thread with posts saying "multiplayer will never happen, it's technically impossible, devs said they won't, it'll ruin the game, stop making this thread"


03622d No.14918385

Just try DESYNC, it's a game with some depth it, but the developer knew only a handful of people would seriously try it, so he made it obtuse as possible for the sake of A E S T H E T I C with only some hints strewn about how all this shit works. The end result was that casuals got even more understandably confused and had no idea how essential mechanics worked, whereas even high-level players could only guess at how some of these scoring bonuses worked.


664ce7 No.14918514

>>14918061

Genuinely, fuck that game. That webm doesn't show how complete bullshit the later boards are.


2e93fe No.14918522

Wiki games are fun.


115b4f No.14918779

File: f580a36720adbb7⋯.webm (6.45 MB, 426x240, 71:40, dsp 2.0.webm)

>this thread


eb9033 No.14919106

>>14918061

>Think that can't possibly be a real game. What is happening is too stupid to be real.

>check it out and it's real.

>The game is basically the programmer just fucking with you.

It's a short game, but you could right a documentary on everything it does wrong.


96569e No.14919141

>>14919106

I think its fucking hilarious


765cb5 No.14919200

>>14919106

It's not even a new concept you faggot, flash games were doing that shit long before this game did.


eb9033 No.14919549

>>14919141

It probably is funny at first, but after a while I imagine it wears thin.

>>14919200

I never said it was a new concept. I just said the game is bad.


7b6752 No.14919600

>>14919106

It doesn't seem anywhere near as bad as IWBTG in that regard.


a5a8c2 No.14919613

>>14918061

I despise people who demand multiplayer in every single-player game no matter how asinine multiplayer would actually be. It's mostly casuals/normalfags who do this because I guess they're too insecure to play a game by themselves, like a nerd.


9497da No.14919632

>>14917032

Good, because once you learn it, it becomes boring shit.

>>14918061

And they fucked up the multiplayer version with typical NuGame faggy cosmetic overload. They crammed in so many retarded skins, they ruined the nice game aesthetic I had trouble figuring out if they were different items, and that's when I stopped playing for good.


a29fc0 No.14919646

>>14918007

>it's in the game

>therefore it's objective truth

SPOKEN. LIKE. A. TRUE. EUROPEAN. COMMUNIST. CUCKOLD. PIECE. OF. SHIT.

Losing is not fun.


a5a8c2 No.14919652

>>14919646

Oh look another newfag


a29fc0 No.14919692

>>14919652

Not an argument. Go be a fag somewhere else.


38b7eb No.14919710

>>14919646

he was making a reference, and maybe losing is actually fun in dwarf fortress, you wouldnt know cause you are a newfag trying so desperately hard to fit in. stfu and go back to cuckchan.


818c48 No.14919720

>>14919106

go play syobon action


a5a8c2 No.14919733

>>14919692

No need to make an argument when your displayed ignorance says everything it needs to. Go back to wherever you came from.


4a62db No.14919804

File: cede79e4130cb5f⋯.jpg (32.14 KB, 667x350, 667:350, 20yearsofconfusion.jpg)

>>14919692

It's hilarious how new you are, happily parading that newness about with your desperate "Look how negative I am, I must be a fellow member of this imageboard!".

"Losing is fun" is the primary tagline of Dwarf Fortress because the game is very, very, VERY easy to 'win'. It's relatively simple to totally isolate your fort in the right embark, living entirely off of farms that always work and never making enough wealth that you attract seiges powerful enough to destroy the fort, nor digging deep enough to unearth Forgotten Beasts.

Since the game is so easy to render into a fucking antfarm, the real fun is what happens when you ostensably 'fail'. The combat logs, the tantrum spirals, the madness and the demons, forgotten beasts and titans, etcetera. Each fort is so disposable, so easy to advance, that you're basically building a pressure bomb over time so you can watch it go off.

Because of this, you have the tagline. You saying it sounds like a soyboy sentiment is hilariously newfag in nature, because anyone who has been around for more than a couple years knows why it's there. Hell, even cuckchanners know it. EVEN FUCKING REDDITORS KNOW IT. Anyone who has stepped out of fucking facebook does, and thus, you show that despite having some of the lingo, you've none of the history. This is like someone walking into /a/ and being confused why every considers handholding to be some sort of sordid sexual act. This is like walking into /tg/ and not knowing the Commander Keen rule. This is like going into /v/ and not knowing what the central design conceit of Dwarf Fortress is.


24cbe3 No.14919845

File: aabb172594e96e5⋯.png (70.19 KB, 380x349, 380:349, 1525964141156.png)

>>14919804

>t. you


a29fc0 No.14919859

>>14919710

>he was making a reference

Yes. I know. I also don't care.

>maybe losing is actually fun in dwarf fortress

It isn't.

>you wouldnt know

Thank you for gracing us with your omnipotence.

>>14919733

>you displayed ignorance

lol

>>14919804

>you're new i say so

It's great that you're too stupid to comprehend this and hilarious how triggered you got at having your masochism called out.


c7a91a No.14919868

>>14919646

>Losing is not fun

Spoken like a true casual retard.


a29fc0 No.14919872

>>14919868

>i wish more of my bones were broken

lol


6d32dd No.14919880

File: 028656e1e009639⋯.png (73.15 KB, 308x290, 154:145, what a useless kid.png)

>>14919845

>cuckchan timestamp

>>14919859

>doubling down this hard to save face


a29fc0 No.14919893

>>14919880

>doubling down

Okay, you're just trolling at this point.


a5a8c2 No.14919901

File: bda83157625fe67⋯.png (130.85 KB, 500x446, 250:223, ClipboardImage.png)


cd8cb9 No.14919922

>>14919880

>Cuckchan timestamp

You… you don't know what a UTC standard is do you?


818c44 No.14919938

Starseed Pilgrim. Unfortunately it isn't content to end once you understand how it works and just keeps going until you get frustrated at the new conditions and give up. Still fun while it lasts though.


24cbe3 No.14919944

File: d4b6319ecf584e6⋯.jpg (167.94 KB, 1348x812, 337:203, aa90ece9a73037c1f09f609a0b….jpg)

>>14919880

>t. basedboy


8e63ff No.14920434

File: 272d52a35131214⋯.png (181.1 KB, 252x357, 12:17, Baroque_Coverart.png)

This piece of shit.


6d32dd No.14920499

>>14919922

>Recent POSIX time with 13 digits

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know he was from 48 thousand years in the future. That's a much more reasonable explanation than it being a cuckchan filename, which are POSIX time with extra digits at the end to stop. You fucking retard.


270e11 No.14921605

>>14919646

Never learn


270e11 No.14921626

>>14919859

leave the internet kid, it's clearly not for you




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