efccc9 No.14914378
No mania since fangames don't count.
4070e0 No.14914386
>No mania since fangames don't count.
It's average at best anyway it just seems a lot better because there haven't been any other good Sonic games for years assuming you don't count kart racer spin-offs anyway.
efccc9 No.14914406
>>14914386
Obviously all stars racing doesn't count either faggot.
ac62e4 No.14914408
efccc9 No.14914420
>>14914408
Not a mainline game in my book but it'd probably be on the lower end of average.
4070e0 No.14914462
>>14914406
That's what I meant by spin-off.
149121 No.14914488
>>14914408
Terrible character and terrible game.
9a59bb No.14914686
>>14914488
You take that back.
>>14914420
It did interesting things with branching which makes it great to me.
414964 No.14914813
Honestly, without nostalgia goggles, the thing that really kills me is the shitty cringe stories in all the 3d Sonic games, even the good ones. Why can't they just make a decent length game made up of one 3d SA2 type level after another, with no hub world, and you can play as Sonics or Tails, or for 2p Sonic and Tails coop? No story, no dialogue, gameplay only, final destination. Even bring back Acts with a boss at the end, just in 3d. That's all it really needs, as long as you don't fuck up the physics and the game isn't riddled with bugs. Some of the 3d games were at least somewhat fun, but the cutscenes make me want to kill myself.
4dd4e0 No.14915249
>officially released by sega
>Fan game
Nigger what? Are you really that butthurt that the best sonic game in years wasn't made by sonicteam?
baa09f No.14915271
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
So who's excited for Sonic Mania Plus?
b5da49 No.14915303
>>14914378
>Sonic 2 and 3&K worse than Sonic 1
>generations and colors in the same shit tier as forces
222cb6 No.14915307
>>14914378
>That bait OP image.
eb6016 No.14915308
>>14914378
>sonic adventure 2 godlike
>sonic colors shit
I am going to fucking bully you.
d52c81 No.14915314
Holy shit that OP image is so bad
>Shit
Advance 2
Advance 3
Rush
Unleashed
Forces
>Average
Advance
Heroes
Adventure
Adventure 2
Sonic 1
Sonic Riders
>Godlike
Sonic CD
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic Mania (fuck you it's official)
Generations
eb6016 No.14915326
>>14915314
Honestly Advance 2 and 3 were fine. It needs two additional tiers at very least.
5bf657 No.14915340
>>14914378
subtract the chao garden from sa2 and it's solidly in the shit category, rest assured
682409 No.14915341
>>14914378
>3D games, 2D games, and a racing game are on the same tier list
>CD is godlike
>3&K and 2 are average
>Generations, Adventure, and Colors are shit
You don't know jack shit about Sonic and your tastes are shit.
96bfe5 No.14915361
>>14915249
>Nigger what?
OP is indeed a nigger
baa490 No.14915399
>>14915341
BINGO MAN BINGO!!!
69e123 No.14915436
Sonic 3 and Knuckles, the Magnum Opus of Sonic games average.
I'm sure the one who made this shitty meme is one of those Sonic obsessed turbo autists.
c0dfa4 No.14915448
Bad:
>sonic chronicles
>sonic advance 2
>sonic r
>sonic forces (more frustrating than bad)
>sonic adventure
>sonic 1
>secret rings
Average:
>sonic heroes
>shadow the hedgehog (better than sonic heroes imo)
>adventure 2
>sonic 2
>sonic rush adventure
>lost world
>advance
Good:
>unleashed
>sonic 3 and knuckles
>generations
>colours
678916 No.14915466
Get back here, OP. You either commit to your shitposting, or you don't do it at all.
e8bfa4 No.14915490
>tfw no (28) spamming rouge porn before it gets baleeted
why even live
82c834 No.14915517
Spark the Electric Jester any good?
678916 No.14915521
588bba No.14915523
>>14915448
>Unleashed
>Good
The daytime stages, maybe. The wearhog one drag the overall package down a lot.
298a08 No.14915806
>>14914813
>cringe stories in all the 3d Sonic games
>HA HA XD SONIC 3D GAME IZ BAD GAME FOR KIDS IN CRINGEY
Go back to >>>/reddit/
5c94ad No.14915814
>>14915341
>adventure
>not shit
2289d6 No.14915938
>>14915523
I can't recall a level or character in Advance that's worse than the God Of War rip-off werehog, either. Those two should be switched around along with 1,2, and maybe Rush/Adventure.
>>14915806
>If I can accuse the other person of being from reddit, I can disguise my butthurt over being called out for my shit taste!
baa490 No.14916174
>>14915814
BINGO MAN. BINGO!!!
7c4676 No.14916222
3> CD> 2> Mania> 1> Riders> Heroes> Adventure 2> Generations> Colors> Adventure> Shadow the edgehog (ironically)> Shit= Every other sonic game
6df40d No.14916239
>>14914378
CD is way overrated.
63b208 No.14916313
>>14914378
You have hands-down some of the most retarded opinions I've ever seen
9163ff No.14916315
Honest opinion, I think Mania needs to fired one of its bad artists, Studiopolis and PG Act 2 looks great but PG Act 1 and Titanic Monarch looks like shit.
48be05 No.14916583
Don't mind me, just being the best and only good Sonic game.
f8f2a1 No.14916591
>>14914378
>No Mania
>Riders in Godlike
>Colors not average
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles
==>AVERAGE
01fd8a No.14916684
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14916583
>Ristar
Patrician taste. Have some of the best music that ever came out of the Genesis.
>>14914378
>Sonic CD
>Godlike
>not shit
Sonic CD is more like the decomposing corpse of a dung beetle that died after a mountain of shit collapsed on it. The ONLY good thing that came out of that game was the music, and the US didn't even get the really good music due to "localization"
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles is average
Okay, so this post is bait. Nevermind.
592c78 No.14917164
>>14914813
>le 3D Sonic is bad meme
Back to cuckchan faggot
e41872 No.14917509
>>14914378
Sonic Advance 2 is better than most the games in 'Average' and definitely better than riders and Sonic Adventure 2. The Aventure games are fucking shit
2289d6 No.14917878
fbfb33 No.14917891
OP is a gigantic retarded tryhard hipster faggot.
52e452 No.14918042
>implying SA 1 is worse than SA 2
eat shit. The only advantage SA 2 has is that you can play as Rouge.
fa2aec No.14918150
>>14915271
Only for the physical copy, really. I still dont know what exactly is different about this shit.
dbb497 No.14918383
>>14918150
>Play as Mighty and Ray
>Encore Mode which is palette swap and redone stage layouts (how much different, who knows)
>whatever other updated stuff done to the base game
7596db No.14918401
>>14918042
Stop with the batposting already, this is like the 4th thread this week.
9163ff No.14918407
>>14918150
It's basically tag team mode.
b44c72 No.14918414
>>14918042
batfag please stay
c0f3fa No.14918767
>>14914813
You should think about how you came to such incredibly wrong conclusions about everything you just wrote.
>But le cringy cringe ex dee
I'm surprised you didn't post yiffinhellfurfags.jpg trying so hard to fit in. Who are you trying to impress? God of Soy is more your speed, and so is
>>>/reddit/
4fda60 No.14918827
Sonic 1 is ok, they were still figuring out the formula. the first level is amazing. springyard is amazing. marble… and several other levels ruin the flow and are anti-fun
sonic 2 was great, but still has some of the problems as sonic 1, but less of them.
sonic 3 was great, and sonic 3&k was an amazing game. one of the best games of all time.
sonic CD was one of the best games of all time. the traveling to the past and hunting added replay value and was really awesome. and that soundtrack was top tier.
everything else was just "ok"
a9bb4c No.14918860
Sonic CD is mediocre at best. In order to have any actual fun, you have to essentially memorize every stage and play it multiple times. Off the bat, it's just an annoying mess forcing you to track all over the fucking place to find the right signpost, and then slowly trying to find a good spot to activate the time travel. It's fun when you've memorized a stage and know where you're supposed to go, but if you just want to play a fun game, it leaves you probing in the dark. The music is good, and the gameplay is decent enough, but the peel-out isn't a cool new mechanic. It's just a standing spin dash.
It would be a great game if it wasn't so fucking annoying finding the right signpost and then finding a place to build speed. Nothing is more irritating than getting the right sign, thinking you found a good spot to hit the right speed, and running into something or hitting some bump that makes you fucking lose your time travel, and then having to spend another 3 minutes finding another signpost if there are any. The fact that you can run out of sign posts is really shitty.
And memorization isn't a great proposition when the levels are sprawling fucking messes like this.
4942f1 No.14918892
>OP's image
Subjectively I would put Sonic 2 to Godlike and replace it with Sonic Riders.
Riders was decent don't get me wrong, but I personally thought Sonic 2 was as good if not better in some ways than Sonic 1… With that said it was worse in others too. A lot of the earlier levels in Sonic 2 was way too easy simply because of spin dashing…
Tails was more of a hindrance in special levels than a help though
Sonic Riders, while fun, lacked anything really remarkable for me
Sonic Heroes was okay, I was never a huge fan of the 3D sonics, I think that was the last 3D Sonic game I played, I don't even recognize half of the ones in the "shit category" and I honestly thought that the ones released on the Wii were literally a meme. I suppose I have to sit on the bench for this one
5c6629 No.14918894
>>14914378
Anon, do you have brain damage? I'm genuinely concerned about you after seeing that list. Unless this is bait
4fda60 No.14918908
>>14918860
you sound like a fucking guidebook fag. you dont have to time travel AT ALL to get through the game. its entirely optional and is just mainly for bonus content.
sometimes the time traveling is easy. sometimes you need to be creative in how you achieve it.
every stage makes you want to go past/future just to hear the music and see the stage. sometimes one of those options is easier than the other.
then replayability/end game content is getting all the "good future" levels.
what is even your complaint about the game? that you have to be familiar with the levels to travel to the past, locate and destroy the portals and metal sonics, then travel to the future before the end of the zone? in order to see the secret "good future"?
might as well complain about doom because finding all the secret areas on each map is difficult.
63fb75 No.14918956
>>14915314
OP is baitshit, so here's my ranking from best to worst. I'll separate it in terms of classic, dreamcast era, and modern for convenience, and I won't do the portable games:
CLASSIC
>Godlike
1. S3K
2. Mania
>Good
3. Sonic 2
>Okay
4. CD
5. Sonic 1
>Bad
6. Knuckles Chaotix
DREAMCAST/ADVENTURE ERA
>Great
1. Adventure 1
>Good
2. Heroes
>Below average
3. Adventure 2
>Shit
4. 06
5. Shadow
MODERN
>Godlike
1. Generations
>Okay
2. Colors
3. Unleashed
>Decent
4. Lost World
>Shit
5. Forces
6. Black knight
7. Secret Rings
Personally, S3K > Adventure 1 > Generations
a9bb4c No.14919093
>>14918908
Doom's secret content isn't 75% of the entire fucking game. You can skip the time travel, but if you do that, you skip the entire stage. Might as well not even play it at that rate. I didn't say it's a bad game, but it is mediocre, and the worst of the classic Sonic games. It's worth paying, but not worth the endless praise it gets. Time travel is a pain in the ass, and there's not a hell of a lot to the game if you ignore the time travel. Sonic's gameplay doesn't facilitate an exploration game. It's solidly below Sonic 2 and 3; worth playing, but too many flaws to consider it the best of anything.
3adbee No.14919103
>>14916684
>and the US didn't even get the really good music due to "localization"
Even when they tried to include both soundtracks (in the mobile release), they changed the Japanese intro. So it was probably some licensing issue with the musicians, or maybe it was because it had some unauthorized samples like a rumor says.
>>14918956
Sonic Heroes is shit. So you're playing with Sonic, going fast, having a good time, and suddenly the game goes "stop having fun, you need to change characters in this part."
bc9392 No.14919108
>3D Sonic
>Godlike
AAAAAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
a344e4 No.14919111
>>14914378
I don't understand why anyone would Like SA2 for anything but the Chao Garden.
4fda60 No.14919136
>>14919093
>75% of the entire fucking game
what the fuck are you talking about? you dont need to time travel at all, it doesnt extend the length of the level, or anything of the sort.
if you entirely skip time travel the game is the same exact length.
051a51 No.14919161
I love the music for the classic games but it's kind of hard to place what kind of genre the soundtracks fall under (it's like some kind of prog pop/new jack swing/house techno thing) and I know that the games took heavy influence from some Japanese artists from the 80's but I can't remember who.
I really don't like the direction that Adventure took with its soundtrack so the franchise has been dead to me since the Dreamcast.
4fda60 No.14919165
>>14919161
"vidja game music"
2289d6 No.14919352
>>14919161
Masato Nakamura from the band "Dreams Come True" composed and even incorporated some of his bands songs into the games like "Sweet Dreams" for Sonic 2's ending.
a9bb4c No.14919356
>>14919136
Every level has a present, past, good future, and bad future, except for act 3 of each zone. If you don't time travel, you only see one of those for each stage.
You're retarded if you think that you get the same length of the entire game with and without time travel. The obvious methods of playing (excluding secret levels) are:
1. Blasting through the present of each level
2. Finding a "past" post and a place to go to the past, finding the teleporter and destroying it, and then finishing. This would take at least twice as long as 1, especially considering the searching necessary to find a good place to time travel and then to find the teleporter.
3. Exploring the present, going to the future to explore the bad future, going back to the present, then going to the past, then destroying the robot teleporter, then going back to the present and then good future to explore. Would take at least 4 times as long as 1, but likely much longer than that.
Why the fuck you think that the game is the "same exact length" if you don't explore as if you do is beyond me. A child could see that it's not true. More importantly, the time travel is the entire draw of the game. Skipping that drops the entire point. It should be fun to time travel, and the past/present/good future/bad future system is great. The time travel mechanic is the sole pain in the ass. If you had to get 50 rings and then use those to travel at the right signpost or some other system that doesn't require memorizing all the good spots to pick up speed, it would be fine.
It's a great idea with shit execution.
52e452 No.14919402
>>14918401
its not my fault we've had 4 fucking sonic threads this week.
d52c81 No.14919451
>>14919161
It's a mixture of contemporary jazz with pop-y beats (specifically J-Pop). As mentioned, the composer for Sonic 1 & 2 was Masato Nakamura, who was in the band Dreams Come True (a Japanese pop band). So, Sonic 1 & 2 are a lot more similar due to this. There's actually a neat little deconstruction of the compositional structure for Sonic 1 seen here: hooktube.com/watch?v=F7Xw8YAtGpI
Sonic 3, however, took a more western pop trend thanks to Michael Jackson's direct contributions, alongside Brad Buxter (who also worked with Michael Jackson as a keyboardist). This led to a lot of melody-driven, heavy-hitting tunes with some 80's style beats. Filter those compositional styles through the fantastic Genesis/Megadrive synthesizer, and you have a neat distortion effect that leads to an almost "metal" feel for some of the tracks (see Flying Battery Zone).
d52c81 No.14919471
>>14919161
As for the direction the Adventure games took, I would say SA1 was probably the "sweet spot" with its musical stylings, as Jun Senoue (the composer for Sonic 3D Blast, arguably one of the best Sonic OST's) reprises his role as composer.
SA2 went full buttrock, though, with a few good tracks laden around. Heroes was some weird mix of techno and pop-y shit made by artists who don't really know what they're doing (though they still managed to make some surprisingly decent music), and 06 was one of the few Sonic games with just terrible music.
4fda60 No.14919493
>>14919356
good future is a bonus. most people didnt even know good future existed until after beating the game. the past/present/future are the only actual levels, and theyre just mostly the same remixes.
the game isnt about exploration. the time travel is to just give some variety for replays, or if you die so you dont have to do the same thing 10x in a row.
good future isnt even really a level. there arent even any enemies.
saying that its "75% of the game" is fucking stupid since its optional. the game IS the same length since sonic is about beating 3 acts. seeing all versions of each act is optional. which gives the game depth, which is why people like it.
the shit youre complaining about is a non issue unless youre a massive casual that needs to 100% a game on his first playthrough. go play skyrim.
63fb75 No.14919739
>>14919103
imo the team mechanic is a pretty fun and interesting idea. They all have their problems though, but I think it's okay overall.
63fb75 No.14919779
What are some unpopular opinions /v/ has on sonic games? Here are mine:
>Although I already said it, Heroes > SA2
>Advance 1 is the only good game in the advance trilogy, almost as good as the classics. Advance 2 and 3 are shit
>Ryan Drummond is the best sonic voice actor
>Sonic CD is overrated. Not bad, but overrated
>Adventure 3 shouldn't happen. Actually, we already have SA3: Sonic 06
>Modern and Classic Sonic shouldn't be a thing. It should just be Sonic.
ff8576 No.14919802
every sonic game is fucking shit, garbage
there is no good sonic game except for the kart racing one
694e7e No.14919839
>>14915938
I found the werehog pretty entertaining outside of the DLC levels. It's not so bad in my opinion, that it ruins the entire experience for me.
>>14919739
Sonic heroes lacks polish and it shows in gameplay. Loops failing, homing attacks not working properly, running into walls frequently, bingo highway, Focus on combat was really pace breaking.
That's not to say I didn't have fun playing it, but I'd put the game just a little bit below average
7fb8e5 No.14920153
>>14919779
Sonic Advance 1 is garbage.
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 are not very good.
I unironically like Sonic X.
Sonic Riders > Zero Gravity.
63fb75 No.14920214
>>14919839
In an ideal world, Heroes would get an HD rerelease in the same way the Sonic CD 2011 port came out, where it's built from the ground up and a lot of things are tweaked and polished.
63fb75 No.14920221
>>14920153
>Unironically like Sonic X
dub or sub?
2b2844 No.14920265
Your ranking is fucking horrible.
63fb75 No.14920270
2289d6 No.14922447
>>14920270
How about this?:
>Puyo Puyo/top crossover tier:
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing/Transformed
>Great
Sonic 3 Complete
Sonic Mania
Sonic 2 & 1 (especially the StealthTax ports)
>Good
Sonic CD
Sonic Advance
Sonic Pocket Adventure
Sonic Generations
Sonic Colors
Sonic 1 8 bit
Sonic Battle
Tails Adventure
Sonic Boom: Fire & Ice
>Slightly above average/decent but flawed
Sonic Triple Trouble
Sonic Chaos
Most of Dimps' output post Advance 1 (i.e Rush games)
Sonic Heroes (non PS2 or unmodded PC versions)
Sonic Forces
Sonic the Fighters
Riders 1
Sonic 4
Adventures 1&2 (modded)
Unleashed (the originals, not the Generations mod)
Spinball
Sonic 2 8 bit
>Average to slightly below it
Most of the spinoffs such as
Knuckles Chaotix
Lost World
3D Blast
Storybook games
Riders Zero Gravity
Rivals games
R
Drift 1&2
Shadow (non PS2 version, again)
Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal
Sonic Blast
>Bad
Tails' SkyPatrol
Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric (pre-patch)
Sonic Free Riders
Sonic 06
Labyrinth
Tiger Game.com "port"
Genesis GBA port/remake
Most of the games I could come up with
I'm a bit on the forgiving side with the rodent-feel free to bump or knock down some games one tier or so depending on your tolerance level/appreciation for game atmospheres compared to gameplay
A little tricky to come up with rough placements for that many wihen you run into the various different ports some of these games have.like Jam to Backbone, to Stealth and Taxman, etc.
7fb8e5 No.14927069
>>14922447
>Sonic 4 and Forces
>not on the same tier as Sonic Lost World or Zero Gravity
If anything Sonic 4 episode 2 should be on the above average part.
88505c No.14927097
>sonic adventure1 in "shit"
>sonic freerider in "godlike"
and this thread isn't saged
7d7c77 No.14927104
>>14914378
>unleashed isn't cut in half and put onto godlike and shit at the same time
0d65ef No.14927973
>>14919471
>06 was one of the few Sonic games with just terrible music
shit taste
1ea13d No.14927998
>>14927069
Lost World is million times better than Sonic Forces, you take that fucking back.
678916 No.14928064
>>14927998
>he liked Lost World
790cd3 No.14928091
>sa2 above sa1
full nostalgiafag
ca3f1f No.14928182
>Sonic Adventure in the "shit" category
>Anything after Sonic Adventure not in the shit category
OP, You're supposed to be subtle when baiting. Just sticking Your fucking head in the water and screaming I'M GOING TO FUCKING EAT YOU YOU GOD DAMNED FISH will not, in fact, catch You any fucking fish.
But here's Your (You) anyways, since You seem to need it so bad.
678916 No.14928226
>>14928182
Advance wasn't shit, faggot.
7add00 No.14928809
I'M THE BIGGEST OF MASKED MEN, I AM THE CRASHER OF PLANES
I'M THE BREAKER OF SPIRITS, I AM THE RISER OF FLAMES
I'M THE LAST ONE THAT'S FLYING, DON'T BRING YOUR FRIENDS IN MY WAY
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN UP AGAINST BATMAN, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT MY NAME
'CAUSE IF YOU'RE FLYING WITH ME, I AM A FORCE TO BE RECKONED
I AM THE MASTER OF PLANS, I'LL CRASH YOU DOWN IN A SECOND
'CAUSE I WAS BORN IN THE DARK, IT ONLY BLINDS IF YOU LET IT
SO IF YOU THINK YOU CAN SHOOT ME, YOU MUST BE FEELING HOT-HEADED
AND WHEN YOU FILED YOUR PLAN TO HAVE ME BOARD
I played you right into my own game
SO I'LL GRAB YOUR PRIZE AND START THIS WAR
I'm gonna sink you like a tidal wave
WHEN EVERYTHING YOU'VE PLANNED FOR FLIGHT IS GONE
CIA has fallen, I am rising higher
AND EVERY WING YOU'VE HAD HAS BROKEN OFF
What they'll find in the wreckage is fuel to my fire
AND THERE'S NO AIRCRAFT LEFT TO FLY YOU ON
My fire is lit, your crash is imminent and
I PERMIT
YOU DIE IN IT
AND REST IN DISGRACE ON THE INTERNET
SO LOOK ABOVE YOU AND TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY SEE
I'M NEVER FALLING, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN YOU AND ME
SO WHEN YOUR FLIGHT IS STOPPED AND EVERYTHING IS CRASHING DOWN
IT'S ONLY PAIN FOR YOU, WHO IS GONNA SAVE YOU NOW?
SO LOOK ABOVE YOU AND TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY SEE
I DON'T FAIL MY PLANS AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN YOU AND ME
SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT NO FRIENDS AND NO SURVIVORS LEFT AROUND
IT'S ONLY BANE FOR YOU, WHO IS GONNA SAVE YOU NOW?
e47782 No.14928894
>Must-Play Tier
Sonic CD
Sonic 2
>Recommended Tier
Sonic Advance
Sonic 3
>Fanatic Tier
Sonic 1
Sonic Heroes
>Bonus+ Tier
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Advance 2
Sonic Advance 3
Sonic Colors
>Alright Tier
Sonic Lost World
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Sonic Rush
Sonic Rush Adventure
Sonic Generations
>Delusional Tier
Sonic Adventure
>Edge Tier
Shadow the Hedgehog
>Autism Tier
Sonic '06
Sonic Forces
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic and the Black Knight
>? Tier
Everything Else
My chart is simple. Must-Play means Everyone "must play" it. Recommended means I "recommend" you play it if you have an interest. And Fanatic is for "fans" who wish to experience more, but might have more archaic design or small irks to overcome. None of these 3 tiers is better than the other, it's only a way of describing if the game fits you and your interests. Bonus+ are decent enough games to justify wasting time into them but aren't recommended as your first game into the series.
2289d6 No.14928971
>>14927069
Hence the ending bit of moving some games up or down a level. I put down 4 as both episodes and initially put them in the rank I did since neither game has any overtly jarring genre shifts or dramatic gaps in quality like the Adventures or Unleashed, just more consistently meh. Though I suppose the latter part of 4, while slightly improved in the physics and overall handling, is dragged back down by the gimmicky co-op.
>>14927998
Which reminds me, I loved the lack of shonen furry autism, parkour and somewhat X-Treme-ish (really Super Mario Galaxy inspired) level design they were going for, but it wasn't as polished as it could have been and even without his friends there's still a bunch of out of place levels like the snowball one that feels utterly tacked on and it gets even worse in some of the 3DS version acts. Couldn't excel above and beyond the likes of the Adventure games in that regard, as an overall package or the anemic Generations/Colors-esque Forces in that regard. Granted, the latter is much more hand-holdy than Lost World, so I can see that being a big point against it when compared to that game.