8c806a No.14908097
It looks like Hori and Thrustmaster are prepping to show off AC7 flight sticks at E3.
http://bbs.ruliweb.com/news/board/1001/read/2161672?
e8efc7 No.14908173
>>14908097
I like Ace Combat and all, but I really wish there were more flight sims that had this level of quality.
e9206b No.14908187
>>14908173
Arcadey flight games are the only way to make the F-35 look good, so don't expect any good flight sims for a while, goy!
205715 No.14908303
>>14908173
I know right? DCS can look kind of good if you squint, but most flight sims look fucking awful. It's probably just cause flight sims are such a niche market. I honestly wonder if AC7 will have any trouble breaking even because of this.
>>14908187
Fuck off Pierre Sprey, get over your hateboner. Nobody even mentioned the F-35.>>14908187
b2eeb0 No.14908316
If they fuck this game up with Denuvo then I'm pirating this shit day 1. I have no problem paying full price to show my support for more Ace Combat games on PC but if they're hellbent on pozzing it with DRM then I'm hellbent on keeping my money.
205715 No.14908333
>>14908316
I highly doubt that it won't have some form of copy protection. This is a AAA game after all, and big businesses need to maintain their profit margins. If it has something proven to be intrusive then I'll only buy it if the game if it's absolutely spectacular. Otherwise I'll pirate it and show my support by buying a flightstick or something.
1de151 No.14908363
>>14908333
It's a Bandai Namco game and most of their PC releases as of recent have had Denuvo.
47cba7 No.14908365
>>14908333
>show my support
False presumption. Buy whatever you want, but if the product includes anti-consumer clauses, such as intrusive DRM (even "regular" DRM), prefer alternatives.
One such alternative could be project wingman, but it's still too soon to say for sure.
6e1b9f No.14908366
>>14908173
>Ace Combat
>flight sim
205715 No.14908400
>>14908365
Project Wingman is looking good, but I do specifically want more Ace Combat on PC, not just dogfighting sims in general. I especially hope that PA would go on to release the Holy Trinity remasters on PC too. I'm not a fan of DRM, but if it's just something easily crackable I'll still consider purchasing the game if it's good enough.
40c243 No.14908436
>>14908303
He's right though.
205715 No.14908594
>>14908436
Suuuuure he is, and you're definitely not just rotating IDs, Mr Sprey.
363643 No.14908611
Werent Ace Combat games were trash after 0?Why would this be better?
b1efdf No.14908618
>>14908366
Meanwhile, actual flight sims suffer from an elephant shitload of DRM and other anti consumer practices.
4a5707 No.14908621
Excited to pirate this game since it's guaranteed to have Denuvo or some other type of DRM that paypigs/buyfags will justify in their infinite cuckoldry.
45f6ab No.14908646
>>14908611
Decidedly not. Assault Horizon absolutely was.
205715 No.14908693
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14908611
AC6 was still pretty good, but yeah AH was trash and Infinite was P2W as shit. Still though, we have several reasons to believe this game will be good:
>Returning to Strangereal
>None of that DFM bullshit from AH
>None of that operations shit from AC6
>qt Erusean monarchist waifu
>BURN OSEA TO THE GROUND
>Many/most of the people working on this game also developed 4, 5, and Zero
>No SJW advertising bullshit to speak of
>Flight sticks will be supported
>Kestrel part deux
>High tech C L O U D T E C H N O L O G Y
>Game will run at 60fps even on consoles
>Splitscreen multiplayer confirmed
I'd definitely say that this game will at the very least be worth pirating.
d7778b No.14908694
>>14908316
>If
It's a Namco game, it's going to have it
bde727 No.14908699
e8efc7 No.14908774
>>14908366
The way I said it could be misinterpreted. What I wanted to say was that I wish there were more actual flight sims that looked as good as Ace Combat because DCS is the only one that comes close.
924944 No.14908965
Kono better give us a solid release date instead of another delay. If not that would really launch my V2
2d473d No.14909041
>>14908693
>None of that operations shit from AC6
I thought the operations were fine, what was wrong with them? It gave AC6's short campaign a tiny bit of replay value at least, going back through to do whichever operations you passed on the first time around.
205715 No.14909134
>>14909041
Admittedly operations were nowhere near as bad as things like DFM in AH, but the common complaint I've heard, and one I share, is that they destroy the flow that missions normally have in ace combat and multitasking between operations is annoying. I would have been happier if they had put the extra work into making more normal sized missions, or even going with what AC5/ACZ did and have different missions depending on certain actions in the game.
907e14 No.14909179
>>14908187
Making the F-35 a good plane is easy when all you need to do is make it another plane for a game or simulator.
924944 No.14909226
>>14909041
>>14909134
The way to make operations better would be to add coop so you can fly sorties with a buddy
205715 No.14909770
>>14909226
I definitely feel like coop has been something Ace Combat has really missed out on. Especially in AC5 and Zero where you had a wingman who is supposed to be roughly comparable to you in skill.
46ad16 No.14910438
>>14910425
Shhh don't spoil it for other anons. You only get some bonus chatter. The first time you play it, it's probably better to just run away since you keep the same plane from the previous mission which - chances are - is an air to ground plane
fb88f3 No.14910455
>>14910438
Sorry, problem is I took them all down and heard nagase get wet. But when the next mission came along, I usually make a quicksave at the start of the missions to avoid the loading times, I accidentally hit load instead of save and was just wondering about it.
acaff8 No.14910466
>>14908303
IT'S THE SECOND IMAGE IN THE OP, YOU IDIOT.
0a021b No.14910468
RECLAIM RIGHTFUL BELKAN CLAY
432fe6 No.14910479
>>14910425
No, but you should do it anyway because it's one of the best levels for grinding kills.
205715 No.14910481
>>14910466
And? There was absolutely no discussion about it. If the simple existence of the F-35 is enough to trigger you then you have more issues than it does.
>>14910468
GLORY TO BELKA OSEAN PIG-DOGS GET FUCKED
e868c7 No.14910615
I really hate Bandai Namco's love of Denuvo. I'll be buying it for PS4 since it's always been a PlayStation franchise anyway (except fucking AC6…) so it's not a huge issue, but it is annoying.
205715 No.14910679
>>14910615
I'm conflicted whether to get it for PS4 or PC, cause on one hand I wanna play it on the console it's intended for, but on the other hand I wanna be able to have AC7's banner right next to 4, 5, and Zero's in my steam library and have it look a bazillion times better.
e235e1 No.14910737
>>14910615
Denuvo can be cracked, a PS4 will still be hardware and software locked even after if you pirate it's games.
e868c7 No.14910780
>>14910737
I don't pirate games, but I appreciate the line of thought.
205715 No.14910807
>>14910780
I think the idea is more that even if you purchase on PC you can still remove Denuvo's influence.
710cd2 No.14910945
>>14910679
>Console or PC
The answer is always PC. The question should be whether or not you should pirate it.
205715 No.14910977
>>14910945
I know, it's just sometimes I feel guilty that my PS4 has basically become a glorified Netflix machine. Anything on PS4 is either better on PC or more fun on Switch
1663a2 No.14910989
>>14910977
>Anything on PS4 is either better on PC
forgetting denuvo are we
710cd2 No.14910994
>>14910989
I'd rather DRM be tied to software rather than hardware. I don't have to pay for a useless $300 machine and I will eventually be able to play it for free.
4a5707 No.14910995
>>14910989
Arguable since denuvo can be cracked.
1663a2 No.14911016
>>14910994
>>14910995
>yes please infect my PC and not this sandbox device
710cd2 No.14911032
>>14911016
The fuck are you on about?
4a5707 No.14911035
>>14911016
Why I said arguable. Still better than being tied down to a shitty overpriced console that's only a locked-down, weaker PC at this point. I have a toaster for browsing and a mid-spec PC for pirating games. The vidya PC is never connected to the internet. So denuvo and data-collection does not affect me
5a833d No.14911040
>>14911016
>>14910989
You literally have no clue what you're talking about.
661fb6 No.14911144
>>14909770
>>14909226
Well… at least we have that psp game with coop.
8d0253 No.14911749
>>14908187
If you dropped the F-35 into a real flight simulator it would practically become an arcade flight game, once you started tracking incoming passive IR missiles through the aircraft body while spamming F&F weapons at several targets simultaneously and remotely controlling UCAVs from your cockpit.
It wouldn't even matter that it has the kinematic performance of a crop duster. You'd forget about that entirely when the only thing that can even see you is some giant ground-based S band radar that glows like a Christmas tree from 300 miles away.
168f98 No.14911828
>>14909226
>But what is a Nation?
acb525 No.14911836
>>14911828
A miserable pile of boarders?
395f23 No.14911847
>>14909226
>>14909770
>he never played AC X JA on PSP in coop with his brother
I pity you.
395f23 No.14911849
>>14911144
Speaking of, are there any networking options in PPSSPP yet?
88448d No.14911881
>>14908097
I wonder if the stick will just be rebranded flight stick 3 or if it will be a new design. It would be nice it they made a twist stick instead of paddles on the throttle. Also, I wonder if the pc version will get a hotas package as well or we'll be stuck with what ever half assed compatibility they add for pc sticks
414563 No.14911883
when the fuck does this game even come out?
205715 No.14912189
>>14911749
Its kinematic performance isn't even bad, it's just not as good as the F-16. It's been stated to be in-between the F-16 and F/A-18, and definitely has vastly better high-alpha handling than the F-16 (though that's not exactly a high bar).
>>14911828
I swear to god if he's revealed to be Pixy or Yellow 13 the world will drown in a great flood of my thick white baby batter.
>>14911849
I think so. At the very least you can do local multiplayer, so I'd imagine that one method that was used for OG Xbox (I honestly forget the name) to trick it into playing local multiplayer online would also work here.
>>14911883
We'll probably be getting a release date at E3. If they delay it till 2019 tho I'm dipping my copies of the holy trinity in flex seal.
fbe119 No.14912554
>>14908097
Need to get a HOTAS at some point, this may be a good time to get one if they are good
d73eb5 No.14912567
>>14911893
>Blaze was a flaming homosexual
8c806a No.14912585
>>14912554
Welp, we'll know soon enough. To be honest I'm hoping that they'll come with or support pedal inputs as well.
205715 No.14913177
>>14912567
Wouldn't that be more applicable to Pixy?
5add60 No.14913222
I'm playing AC5 for the first time on emulator. How comes the wingmen are so shit? Are they even supposed to do anything? Because whenever I order them to attack something they take 10 times the time I would take to do it
205715 No.14913272
>>14913222 (nice)
The point of the wingmen are to help you, not do your work for you. It's your job to shoot down Yukes by the dozen, and it's their job to get enemies off your back so that you can continue shooting down yukes by the dozen. I would say the attack command is more useful in the air-to-ground missions, where they can continue attacking aircraft and SAMs so you can concentrate on the actual targets.
2d473d No.14913298
>>14912567
>callsign is Chopper
>doesn't fly a helicopter
205715 No.14913399
Anyone else notice that today marks the 23rd anniversary of Belka's glorious victory?
GLORY TO BELKA
4940b7 No.14913440
>>14908097
I've never played Ace Combat but it looks fun as fuck, Recommendations?
d73eb5 No.14913741
Mobius 1 vs Entire Razgriz Squad, who wins?
f7e0f0 No.14914001
>>14913440
If you have a PS2 or a PC good enough to emulate them, play 4, 5, and Zero. They're commonly accepted to be the best 3 in the series. Playing order doesn't really matter (I went with 5, Zero, 4), though you should know that Zero and 5's plots are pretty closely intertwined (Zero takes place 15 years before 5 and acts as a prequel). If you don't have access to those 3 but have a 360, try 6. It's not quite as good gameplay-wise as the PS2 games, but it's close, and its plot is hilariously cheesy.
If you're wondering which games will be the most relevant to AC7 plot-wise, play 4 and 5. Many set pieces from 4 have already been referenced or shown in trailers for AC7, so you'll wanna play that, and the protagonist country in 7 is the same as 5, so it's likely that we'll see some references to wardog squadron too. Imo start with 5, it's the more polished of the two and has far greater mission variety.
e8900f No.14914007
>>14913298
This
All the time I'm like "Is there an AH64 in our team?"
e8900f No.14914010
>>14914001
Too bad 4 is the worth to emulate. Has anyone figured out how to play with textures on the planes?
f7e0f0 No.14914333
>>14914010
Software mode works perfectly, you just can't increase the resolution and it's more taxing on hardware
f7e0f0 No.14914600
>>14914424
What did Osea mean by this?
b31ff3 No.14914644
>>14914424
>all that clay lost
How sad.
205715 No.14914949
>>14914424
BELKAN CLAY WILL BE RECLAIMED!
>>14914644
ALL CLAY RIGHTFUL BELKAN CLAY. GLORY TO BELKA!
e585a2 No.14915157
>>14914424
>Ustio gets fucked in the ass by Ratio
>They only complain about Belka
e8900f No.14915260
Why does the F-35's cockpit look so retarded
f7e0f0 No.14915381
>>14915260
In what way? It looks pretty different since it doesn't use a HUD (the first in nearly 50 years). Everything is projected in the HMDS. Not to mention everything else in that cockpit is touch screens.
acaff8 No.14915531
>>14915260
God that emulation looks atrocious. Thank god I have original hardware.
205715 No.14915563
>>14915531
It can definitely look better than that with the right settings, but whatever makes you feel validated man.
851024 No.14915569
>>14908097
>It's actually happening
4d3eca No.14916346
>>14913298
god this fucker confused me
after he died, I could have sworn a random NPC had his same exact voice actor, and when he spoke I thought it was Chopper himself, so for the longest time I thought his death was faked or some shit
5bed01 No.14916401
>>14916346
I don't know if he had any miscellaneous lines, but in the final scene where the Osean and Yuktobanian squadrons are all forming up and singing, you can just barely hear his voice in the song ;_;
afdaf5 No.14916828
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Belka did nothing wrong, but had everything wrong going against them.
178e38 No.14916864
>>14915531
That's because he's increasing the native resolution, which makes the UI look like shit. In software mode at native res it looks just as it should.
72ad45 No.14916935
>>14913298
Yeah but he had pretty good taste in music
410e1a No.14917041
>thinking about joining as an airforce pilot
>but you can't choose what you fly and fighter roles are more competitive than prime ministry
>have to serve for 14 years minimum after training
>I will never be Pilot Chad
395f23 No.14917105
>>14917041
Anon, if you really want it, you ought to commit. Your chances are not zero.
410e1a No.14917118
>>14917105
I know, if I had any guts I'd do it. 14 years is a fucking long time, that's my prime years in full
395f23 No.14917122
>>14917118
True enough. Just know if you can't bring up the guts to do it, you probably didn't want it as much as you think you did in the first place. So either go for it or don't bother being upset about not going.
a625dd No.14917123
>>14917105
Let’s shit on the gras
The wind flipping up my ass
Oh weh mir and as he has
Wie ich auf dem Gras säß
395f23 No.14917136
>>14917123
Won wem ist der letzte Teil?
9a9e74 No.14917145
e8900f No.14918009
>>14915381
>HMDS
Oh that's why I feel like I'm looking through an ox-eye window when I fly this plane
8c806a No.14918388
>>14918009
To each their own I guess.
fbe119 No.14918494
>>14917041
>Anon gets called in for interview.
>"Why should you be our new fighter pilot?"
>"Belka did nothing wrong."
>"When can you start?"
adcb6f No.14918569
>>14917041
At least you aren't too old to sign up.
205715 No.14920488
>>14918569
Honestly the airforce or being a naval aviator would be the only thing in the military I'd be interested in. If big-daddy Trump brings us into a glorious WW3 like I'm hoping he will I'll ride out the draft in university and join the pilots academy once I finish my degree.
d6478a No.14930567
Anyone got the picture about the releases of the ace combat games?
a5e9cd No.14930641
>>14920488
>t. basement-dwelling jingoist turbo-retard
3ccf42 No.14930744
>tfw love Ace Combat to hell and back
>Can't talk about it because any community for the game is the exact same sort of cancer full of overused belka clay/osean dog memes and gay fanfiction and eventually blog posting
>There's nothing else to do because the games have already been talked about to death
>No OC is ever made either
It's so fucking tiring.
Buddyposting is alright but God damn.
a5e9cd No.14930766
>>14917136
von deine muddah
d3f6f2 No.14930768
>>14930744
Because there hasn't been a good game since Zero
f7e0f0 No.14932095
>>14930768
Speaking of Zero, anyone else notice that Shwarze squadron in Mission 10 is bullshit on harder difficulties? Under no circumstances should a MiG-31 be so maneuverable that I can't keep up without stalling in an F-15C. I'm not even asking for realism, I just feel like I've hit a brick wall on this mission and I'm incredibly frustrated.
e76c3b No.14932217
dear mr. kono kazoo,
pls 2 give release date
thank,
anon
94534f No.14935154
>>14930571
Why do people hate AC6? I never got to play it as I never owned a 360. At least unlike Infinite it had an original story.
Speaking of which, why was Infinity set in the real world and not in Strangereal? and why did it have fucking limited sortie fuel, made it night on unplayable for me
f23979 No.14935219
>>14935154
Infinity was an online game so you'd need to buy the macguffin to continue to play like a good little monkey. Not sure about 6 myself.
adcb6f No.14935652
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14935154
>and why did it have fucking limited sortie fuel
Because it was free to play.
At least the soundtrack was nice, it probably helped that it was pretty much only remixes.
adcb6f No.14935824
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Trailer for project bootleg wingman.
>Viggen
I'm sold.
adcb6f No.14935834
>>14935824
You can't post an embed and images at the same time so this will have to do.
fbe119 No.14936154
>>14935824
Yeah we had a thread about this last week anon, the demos pretty good if a little easy it's been crowd funded and will be released either late 2018 or early 2019
2c0589 No.14937095
>>14917041
At least you're not one of my classmates, who was way into the military, wanted to be an airforce fighter pilot, then ended up too tall.
>>14930571
What happened with Vector Thrust? I heard about it when it was early in development, and nothing since.
fbe119 No.14937154
>>14937095
£20
Hasn't been updated since 2015
c0c0c9 No.14937365
>>14915260
>>14915531
Ace Combat looks fucking WEIRD when it's not played on a CRT.
abb54d No.14939755
Eh, I bought a pair of thrustmaster t.16000 for it . But hope they make some good sticks for the game for the rest of your guys.
8a4f8a No.14940530
>>14911749
This, unironically.
>>14915260
Probably because Japanese video game developers don't have access to secret military technology and just made shit up.
acaff8 No.14940598
>>14935824
>itch.io
Dropped.
205715 No.14940852
>>14940530
>just made shit up.
No that's really what the cockpit looks like. Even back when the game was made the F-35's cockpit layout was public knowledge. Hell, just google it.
>>14940598
I feel like I'm out of the loop. What did they do, and why does it matter if they host the website when they don't have any hand in the game's development or publication?
d73eb5 No.14940990
Belkans should drop a few more nukes on themselves and finish the job. It could save us a bit of money. Otherwise we might have to hire some more hobos off the street and put them in flying tin cans again to completely cripple any belkan forces that are left. All this clay is delicious.
205715 No.14941074
>>14930744
I'm sorry, but…
>>14940990
GO SUCK OSEAN DICK USTIO, YOU HAVE NO CLAY, ALL CLAY IS BELKAN CLAY!! LONG LIVE BELKA!!!!
bdf631 No.14941265
>>14940852
>What did they do?
Founder revealed himself as a giant faggot who doesn't deserve any support.
205715 No.14941479
>>14941265
Why should I care about what one developer on a team says, especially when no written policy has changed? He can say whatever the fuck he wants, since sadly freedom of speech also covers him. If they start acting on that and removing games en-masse for no reason I'll be just as angry as you seem to be, but I can't find any instances of that happening after Leaf made that statement, indicating no real change in policy. It sucks that they have that policy, but their actual moderation on the site doesn't seem to be unreasonable from my admittedly brief google search of their activities.
Also, you never answered why RB-D2, who's only using itch.io to host the free download page for the demo and is giving no money to them, deserves to be dragged down with them. Not to mention he started using the site over a year before all this Steam controversy shit. That would be like agreeing with everything President Trump says, but you refuse to vote for him because he announced his campaign on Tumblr. It's just petty and dumb.
2d473d No.14941712
>>14930744
>No OC is ever made either
Give it time. Can't make much when the newest game isn't out yet, so of course fans will fall back onto the older games in the meantime.
>>14935154
>Why do people hate AC6?
Can't say I hated it. It just pales in comparison to say 04, which feels like it has more content compared to 6. At worst it was cringey with the phrase "GO DANCE WITH THE ANGELS" being thrown everywhere but even then, it's a good way to tell someone to fuck off I guess.
Also being locked to the 360 was a pretty dumbass move.
bdf631 No.14941967
>>14941479
>They haven't fucked me yet!
When the founder of the site openly says shit like in the pics I posted, you'll have to forgive me for not waiting around there for him fuck me in the ass. As for the rest of your comment, I have no opinion really beyond: Don't support anything that may drive traffic/funds/etc towards someone/someplace who virtue signals about banning "toxic" people. Just to clarify, I don't hate the devs or the game, I'm just not going to use itch.io.
84f22a No.14942021
I've had a copy of AC5 sitting around since October but I never got around to finishing it because the controls didn't click with me the first time. Should I get back to it?
432fe6 No.14942024
>>14935154
>Why do people hate AC6?
It's short and has a somewhat cheesy and unoriginal plot. Also there's a lot of pussies who don't enjoy the massive levels.
2d473d No.14942119
>>14942021
Of course you should. If the controls still don't click, maybe try changing them up in options. Probably just need to turn on Expert flight controls is all. Or off if you're SHIT.
205715 No.14951453
>>14941967
But there's no actual indication that anything will happen. Sure, one developer on a team said something I don't agree with. But, once again, absolutely no written policy has changed, in fact their policy has always included disallowing "offensive" content, but I can't find a single instance of them being unreasonable in the removal of a game. In fact, I haven't been able to find an actual instance of them being unreasonable. If they ever do become unreasonable, then I won't use them, but so far all this is is just one guy speaking his mind, even if I don't agree with it.
Also, here's my thing with "virtue signaling", how is this any different than libtards going and getting Roseanne Barr's show cancelled and making all of the people working on it lose their jobs because she voiced her conservative views publicly? Everyone signals their virtues one way or another, and that's fine, that's one of the things that makes America great. Nobody should be punished simply for voicing their views, even if I don't personally agree with them. You can do your thing man, but I'm not going to punish someone for something they said on twitter, especially when it'll also negatively affect people who had nothing to do with it. If they start pulling games for no reason, I'll be right there with you, but right now I don't see much evidence that the dev team will decide to do that because of a tweet from one guy.
8c806a No.14961555
>>14941712
>It just pales in comparison to say 04
Not trying to disagree with you, because I agree with your criticism of 6, but I honestly don't get the love for 04. Like, it's by no means bad or anything, It's a really fun game, and it deserves to be part of the holy trinity, but I definitely didn't like it as much as 5 and Zero. Basically, I enjoyed 5's gameplay more and Zero's story more. Maybe it's because I played 5 and Zero first, but I feel like that doesn't overrule criticism. I was really expecting 04 to blow me away but honestly I felt pretty underwhelmed at the end. Destroying yellow squadron felt like it should have been the end of the game, especially with how much difficulty I had with them, but then I had to do one more really simple tunnel mission that I aced on the first try on HARD DIFFICULTY. Once again, I still like the game, but I really don't get why so many people consider it to be the greatest of the Holy Trinity.
Personally, of the games I've played, the way I'd rank things would be Zero > 5 > 04 > 3JP > Infinity = AHL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AH
fbe119 No.14963410
>Still no information from E3 about AC7
205715 No.14963499
>>14963410
It'll probably be in Sony's conference. We know it'll at least be on the show floor after the 12th.
fbe119 No.14963548
>>14963499
Apparently Sony is only showing off 1st Party games at E3 and as AC is now multiplat it wont be there.
bdf631 No.14964634
>>14963548
Well that sucks.
205715 No.14964651
>>14963548
It's still a "launch exclusive" so it could certainly still be there. Especially considering AC7 VR is still a PS4 exclusive.
fbe119 No.14964936
>>14964651
It's not a launch exclusive.
The VR is currently exclusive, but they aren't showing VR stuff this E3 there was an email somewhere I can't find it
We know it's going to be on the floor of E3 on the 12th but I don't think there will be any announcement in any presentations.
May see a glimpse of it in the PSVR section of the Sony conference if we are lucky.
3de6d8 No.14965295
>>14961555
04 is great because does nothing wrong in story or gameplay. Maybe the game is a little easy, and there are some QoL improvements in later entries, but there's no single poorly designed mission, nothing detracting from the experience. Every mission relies on the same set of obvious rules, and doesn't have any arbitrary objectives (like trailing missions or destroying a radar base at a precise moment). The most questionable mission in the entire game is shooting the airship jammers, but it's not nearly as annoying as some of the missions in 5. It's also not a very long game, and you only have to replay for extra difficulty modes. The game does everything it needs to, and wraps up nicely.
Same goes with the story with its complete abstraction from the player's actions, despite being closely related to them. The story perfectly builds up the yellow squadron as sympathetic characters, without going too far trying to make them the good guys. And Mobius 1 is the player, not just some fly on the wall (5) or some random dude you're being told about (0). Nobody's trying to interact or bond with you, they only react to what you do (shooting down Yellow 4). Everything is played straight, no anime cliches or moaning about political opinions.
Sure, there could be alternate missions and endings like in 3, but making the plot more complicated than it is would work against its more simple, personal story.
205715 No.14965360
>>14964936
I'm aware that it's coming out on Xbone and PC, but It's coming out first on PS4 and then going to the other platforms.
205715 No.14973507
59681e No.14974664
Sony didn't show anything of AC7
205715 No.14974788
81f4cf No.14974980
>>14913741
Galmobius wins, obviously
>>14941265
Are the founder of itch.io and Project Wingman the same person or are you just doing a guilt-by-association thing?
acaff8 No.14975208
>>14951453
>There's no indication that anything will happen!
The fucking LEAD DEV just told you it would, and buying anything off itchio directly puts money in HIS pocket.
>One dev
No, THE LEAD DEV did. If you're not going to believe the fucking head of the development team, you're a fucking retard.
>No written policy changes!
Yeah, and Twitter doesn't have a written policy that says "We ban all right wing speech", but lo and behold.
>How is this any different that libtards, muh horseshoe!
THis is different because we aren't demanding itchio be taken down, or this dev fired. We are simply walking off the lot, and taking our money with us, you fucking /leftypol/ reject.
acaff8 No.14975240
>>14974980
We're boycotting itchio, not Project Wingman. If it shows up on GOG, or steam, then whatever, but itchio is an absolute do-not-trust. Who knows what they're sticking in files they host. Never trust a leftist to operate honestly.
929b0d No.14975255
>>14974664
Sony must be angry it is coming to PC, only way I can think of why it is ignored EVERY FUCKING YEAR NOW.
fefef8 No.14975492
>>14941265
>journofags complain that there are plenty of other platforms for people to release their bilious hate-filled games on
>other platforms say nope, not here
bdf631 No.14975728
>>14974788
Yeah was hoping for at least something small, but I guess not. Oh well.
>>14974980
Learn to read before posting you homosexual. I already explained I wasn't hating on the Devs/game in my posts. Also what this >>14975240 anon said
>>14975492
Best part is even if you do find one that is genuinely friendly to outside/"hateful" views, they still go out of their way to attack it and kill it if possible. They clearly intend to exile you to the internet desert to die, not to survive elsewhere.
81f4cf No.14975765
>>14975240
>>14975728
Okay, so the dev is itchio. I understand your sentiment then. I believe PW is coming out on GOG.
81f4cf No.14975788
>>14975765
>I believe PW is coming out on GOG.
Looked it up to verify, and I'm seeing nothing. I could've sworn there was a dev tweet or something.
9fa7fa No.14975814
>>14975240
>Who knows what they're sticking in files they host
Are you serious dude? Now you're just fear-mongering. Fuck off.
>>14975765
That's the thing though, the dev ISN'T itch.io. They have almost nothing to do with this game. All the dev is doing is using their site to host his free download, likely because he'd been using the site for over a year beforehand. Jesus fucking Christ.
bdf631 No.14975845
>>14975788
I'm sure it will show up on other platforms later on. I'm cool with waiting. I'll go play through the old AC games again soon. Those were always fun.
81f4cf No.14975848
>>14975814
Right, I stated that poorly.
An itchio dev is SJW.
The PW devs are a-ok.
I'm having a bad night, I'll just go.
ba1264 No.14975885
>>14975848
Stay strong belka poster
bdf631 No.14975995
>>14975814
Slow your shit anon. He was talking about the founder faggot not the games developer.
>>14975848
Anon it is not your fault he is being so defensive. Now before he jumps me again too, the game looks good! I have no problem with your game or its developer. Ok? I'm going to back away slowly now, so please don't bite my dick off.
Now to get back on topic. How accurate do you anons find this list I found in one of the older threads?
9fa7fa No.14976079
>>14975995
Infinity should go in pretty decent tier. It seems like the image was made before it came out.
Also, I fully understand that you all have nothing against Project Wingman, and I'm not trying to "defend" that itch.io dev, but I'm really sick of all this fear mongering and reactionary politics. Actions are what matter, not words, so until I actually see the COMPANY itch.io do something unethical, I couldn't give two shits about what one of its founders says.
751953 No.14976098
>>14975995
The only problem I had with that list is I would put the remake of AC2 in the Pretty Decent tier. I played that through with no maneuvers like a regular AC game and it was pretty wonky to play. The F-16 handles very shitty and is pretty much stall city, and the guns don't work as well I'd like. The final boss in particular is very bullshit without maneuvers, you would be on his tail unloading machine gun round into his ass and it wouldn't register the hit or he could do the maneuvers that I turned off for myself.
I liked Ace Combat X better gameplay wise as a handheld AC title because it played more like the home console counterparts a lot better.
8d0253 No.14976277
>>14975995
Ace Combat X2 should not be in the same tier as Ace Combat X. Here is my reasoning:
>inferior soundtrack with very few memorable melodies and containing unnecessary licensed music
>cheating varcolac squadron teleports behind you
>poor mission design with an over-reliance on large flying superweapons that are awkward to fight (they are almost as fast and maneuverable as your fighter is)
>story is utterly forgettable and doesn't make you feel heroic or passionate in any way
>not set in Strangereal
Just my two cents. However, it's not bad enough that X2 should be unspeakable-tier, and X isn't good enough that it should be god tier either.
205715 No.14976383
>>14976277
Agreed. There should be a "meh" tier or something for games that aren't terrible, but aren't very good either. The way I'd arrange it would be something like:
HOLY TRINITY
4, 5, and Zero. Obviously.
GOD TIER
6, 3(JP), AHL
PRETTY DECENT
Sky Crawlers, 2, Air Combat, X, Infinity
MEH
Joint Assault, 3(US/PAL)
UNSPEAKABLE
Advance, AH
205715 No.14976478
Excuse the doublepost, but Keiki Kobayashi (AC7's composer) just made 3 tweets showing work being done on the soundtrack. So at least we know it's not cancelled or anything.
https://twitter.com/keikikobayashi/status/1006391589944479744
59681e No.14976566
>>14976478
Apparently he's recording arrangements today.
e8900f No.14977838
>>14916864
Also I'm shit at PS2 emu, I discovered the software like a day before posting these
18d2d8 No.14977882
>>14941265
>Valve's response has attracted criticism from the founder of itch.io
Ah yes ich.io, the same site that's riddled with copywrite infringement and quality controls worse then valves, i'm sure devs are rushing to them.
>An indie-friendly store front intended to be an alternative to Steam
There already is an alternative to Steam it's called GoG.
>"It's sad that most of the people in that thread are worried about asset flips. What about the fact that valve is effectively authorizing toxic people to exist on their platform?"
Speaks volumes of is character.
e8900f No.14978075
Slowpoke here, you can shoot down planes with air to ground unguided rocket in PW. Was this possible in any other AC? Also I need to try unguided bombs on planes
e9206b No.14978079
>>14978075
Yes it was possible if you had good aim.
e9206b No.14978085
https://twitter(dot)com/BandaiNamcoEU/status/1006454527577518082
>Ace Combat 7 is highlighted on the showfloor at E3 with an exclusive trailer that will be posted to be enjoyed by everyone on Friday 15th.
ACE COMBAT 7 TRAILER ON FRIDAY
a572d8 No.14978142
Glad I decided to skip the sony conference and get some sleep instead. No AC7 even though they apparently have a trailer ready. What the fuck?
e9206b No.14978207
>>14978142
It's Sony. Even Leddit said the conference was weird or weak or unnecessary.
I must admit I had to agree with one of them when he said "slowing down for PS5". So next year might be the one where they go all out.
ed3e92 No.14978333
>>14978085
well shit, I was actually worried.
>>14978209
WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU RERELEASED MULTIPLAT.
c0c0c9 No.14978406
>>14978085
Aces. Looking forward to it.
205715 No.14978531
>>14978085
The rest of E3 be like
<<BOGEY APPROACHING FAST FROM THE REAR>>
37c408 No.14979346
>>14978406
Post the uncensored version
45f6ab No.14979426
>>14979346
Find it yourself faggot, it ain't hard.
bdf631 No.14979904
>>14976079
Fair enough anon.
>>14978085
Finally some good news!
>>14976383
I'll have to throw something together later in paint.
3ccf42 No.14980142
>>14975995
I liked the western version of AC3…
37c408 No.14982648
>>14976383
>>14979904
I was working on an updated chart about 2 years ago in an Ace Combat thread. It's not quite the same layout as you provided but it can always be changed
205715 No.14982803
>>14982648
>Northern wings
Holy shit I honestly forgot that existed. Also, why is Infinity in "Lost Potential"? Despite being F2P the gameplay is pretty good.
adcb6f No.14982851
>>14982803
>being F2P
I think that's the problem, also the main story missions are just reskins from AC4 and takes a shitton of grinding to unlock.
Unless you buy the mission pack.
929b0d No.14982918
>>14978075
>all federation hostiles eliminated
Can only mean OSEAN federation.
3ccf42 No.14982952
>>14982803
>why is Infinity in "Lost Potential"?
You needed to either pay real money for more "Fuel" or wait until it replenished every day in order to play the game. Essentially, Facebook game-tier practice.
Campaign was meh.
Grinding for plane upgrades.
Bulletspongy enemies.
A general waste of a game engine.
afa3bd No.14983607
>>14982648
I'm finally trying to get into the series and you fucks are confusing me and just pilling up my backlog since I'll have to try everything.
fbe119 No.14983714
>>14982803
Infinity was good until SAMs started requiring more that 4 missiles to be destroyed.
Could have been a good remaster of the holy trinity and the missions they chose were great
The story was tacked on even though I liked Omega Butterfly master was bullshit
They teased Mobius 1 at the end of the last mission and never delivered.
And now you cant play it anymore.
fbe119 No.14984083
fbe119 No.14984153
>>14978075
I remember doing it to the Agaion on Infinity
>>14978085
YESS FUCKING THANK GOD
Now all we need is an Armored Core game and I can die a happy man I guess Metal Wold Chaos will have to do for now
>>14982918
>federation
>have blue stripes on their craft
They are Osean Bastards alright
c0c0c9 No.14984436
>>14982648
I recognize those tits.
fbe119 No.14984571
>>14984436
Is nagase in AH?
havent played it
205715 No.14984867
>>14984571
She has a cameo, yeah. She's in a lot of the games, actually. Like Cid from Final Fantasy.
37c408 No.14985651
Would you have Nagase on your plane?
6b5a22 No.14985739
>>14985651
No.
Because Nagase would be my Winggirl.
205715 No.14985769
>>14985651
There should be waifu skins of Yellow 4, Nagase, and your daughter from AC6.
81f4cf No.14985918
>>14985651
No, I'd much rather her die and go away.
4b7355 No.14985938
>>14913298
>callsign is Chopper
>ends up in bits and pieces scattered all over a stadium
It checks out
452464 No.14986002
>>14985651
You're asking me to betray the one girl that's flown by my side for three campaigns. Well, two, technically; I never bought AssHor.
Would've said "girls," but AssHor never did get the titty monster Azusa's F-14D livery.
f7e0f0 No.14989632
GUYS WE FINALLY HAVE NEWS AGAIN IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL
from: http://ryokutya2089.com/archives/11198
>Water drops and icing in the canopy, and the plane can also get struck by lightning, so natural phenomenons can also become a threat
>If you get struck by lightning, there will be malfunctions in FCS & airframe control
>AC7 will take place in the Usea continent in 2019 (between AC6 & AC3)
>Two Arsenal Birds will appear
>The player will change squadrons frequently. They also won't be considered a hero unlike past games
>You can execute Cobra & Kulbit even when the plane isn't leveled
>Double Kulbit is of course possible, but Triple Kulbit is also theoretically possible
>Fictional planes will also appear and play major roles [in the story]
>Release date is planned to be announced soon
From: http://blog.hokanko-alt.com/archives/53648343.html
>Erusea has been gaining advantage in the war by using "clean" attack with unmanned aircraft
>Project Aces has spent the last 8 months just for improving the quality of the game
>One of the Arsenal Birds "Liberty" [which appeared in the Mission 3 demo] has its abilities changed from 8 months ago; the Mission Update in the latter part will feel more chained
>Trigger was originally under the OADF, but after a certain event he will move to other squadrons. One of them is the penal squadron which will be featured in the new trailer
>With 'Revolutionizing the Sky' as a theme, as they're implementing realistic clouds, [in the early phases] lightning strikes not having any effects felt rather desolate so they added some gameplay arranges
>Post-stall maneuvers do not give advantages in particular. While in AC7 they can be used for evasion, it will also make the aircraft an easier target for the missiles
>A-10C, F-35C, and Rafale M are shown in the magazine, but there are more planes showing up in the trailer
acaff8 No.14989687
>>14983607
Play in release order, anon. Keep calm, there's only 7 games to play right now.
>Air Combat
Can skip if you like, has no canonical impact and is really just a PSX tech demo
>Ace Combat II
Has some canonical relevance though it has been retconned by the remake on 3DS, still worth playing
>Ace Combat III JP
There's an english patch for both discs now.
>Ace Combat 4, 5 and 0
IF YOU PLAY NOTHING ELSE, PLAY THESE.
>Ace combat 6
I mean, if you have an Xbox 360, you might as well. It can be had for like $5.
37c408 No.14989786
>>14989632
T-thank you Kono-senpai.
>>14983607
>>14989687
I'd recommend the holy trinity first above all else.
f7e0f0 No.14989821
>>14989687
>Ace Combat 3
Isn't 3 non-canon though thanks to the true ending where it's all revealed to be a simulation? It's still a game worth playing, but I'm not sure how relevant it is to the overall narrative of Strangereal.
8c6369 No.14989835
>>14989632
>The player will change squadrons frequently. They also won't be considered a hero unlike past games
I fear this will degrade the potential cheesiness of the game.
3ccf42 No.14989895
>>14989821
AC3 is canonical and so is everything in the simulation because it's revealed in the true ending that all those endings are possible simulations of how a war would play out between Neucom and General Resource, where it is revealed that Dision will inevitably die no matter which direction the war goes. Dision's death is Simon's ultimate goal because Dision literally cucked him out of his relationship with Yoko Martha in the real world. Simon then releases NEMO on the internet, so the war pretty much happens for real.
In short, AC3 is a foretelling of Simon's plan to start a corporate war because of a love triangle, JUST to kill Dision. All the different endings in the simulation are just there to cover all the possible choices you COULD make to change it and thus kill off any speculation, but they're all futile. We don't see it in the game, but the war canonically happens after the game's ending and Dision canonically dies.
8c806a No.14989940
>>14989835
I dunno, I feel like a Pixy-style antihero situation could reach fun levels of cheese
f7e0f0 No.14989976
One more update: the new trailer has already been shown to the press. For the most part the press is under NDA, but apparently it's not very long, it "looks good", and doesn't have a release date. However the date is still "2018" so the game isn't delayed. We're also confirmed to be getting a bunch of new info at Gamescom, so I guess we'll be getting a release date then.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nextgenplayer/status/1006772318067216384?s=21
8c806a No.14989998
>>14989976
>No release date
Oof
>But not delayed
Hey, at least there's that. Kinda worries me though, are they really planning on marketing and releasing this game all in 6 months? Cause literally nobody outside of the fanbase knows this game exists, and like it or not we're probably going to need normalfags to buy this game so that it'll be a financial success.
fbe119 No.14990184
>>14989976
31st December 2018
>>14989998
I get the feeling Namco are trying to kill the series so they can get more people to focus on their "Souls-Like" games
3ccf42 No.14990204
>>14990184
If Namco wanted to kill it they wouldn't allow so many delays and so much effort put into it. I mean, look at the trailers.
8c806a No.14990219
>>14990184
>31st December 2018
You do realize that was just a placeholder date right?
fbe119 No.14990234
>>14990219
I meant that's the latest possible date it can come out
45e8ce No.14990280
>>14937095
Vector Thrust got picked up by a really shitty publisher in 2014 and was forced into an early incomplete release full of game breaking bugs and glitches because of it. Then it got terrible reviews and was ultimately forgotten.
I feel really bad for the dev. The guy worked his ass off on it.
4e2a17 No.14990306
>>14975995
AC6 should be at the bottom right alongside AH, otherwise it's pretty accurate.
ffd624 No.14990492
>>14990306
Now this is an opinion I haven't heard yet. I don't think AC6 is that great but what makes you hate it as much as AH?
adcb6f No.14990495
>>14990492
I guess he doesn't like to dance with the angels.
710cd2 No.14990591
>>14989632
>The player will change squadrons frequently.
I hope they do the branching path system where you side with certain groups like in Ace Combat 3.
3ccf42 No.14990629
>>14990492
AC6's story with the kiddo and her mother and the whole dance with the angels shit was cringey as fuck
fbe119 No.14990635
>>14990591
Probably, I think you will be able to choose to side with Osea or Erusia as those are the main 2 coutries they have shown in the traiter and hopefully they have a third where you get to side with Belka
88dbe5 No.14990759
>>14990635
It needs to let you join a terrorist organization like 3. World Without Borders 2.0 only this time we can finally win.
3ccf42 No.14990798
>>14990635
Belka was effectively done and buried after the death of the Grey Men.
ffd624 No.14990821
>>14990799
It's just going over everything from the first part of what >>14989632 posted. However some additional details do show. Like the Arsenal Bird has a laser halo now.
ffd624 No.14990824
>>14990821
Or wait shit it's the second part.
81ea43 No.14990828
So what are the odds of the PC version hacking in Vive/Oculus support?
ffd624 No.14990838
>>14990828
I doubt it would be that hard. First person mode already exists and the cockpits should be fully textured. All that would really need to be done would be mapping camera controls to the headset.
adcb6f No.14990932
>>14990799
Looks like we'll get the SU47 again.
f7e0f0 No.14991026
>>14990932
Wait what? Where is it? I see the Su-27, Su-30, Typhoon, F-35C, Rafale, and A-10 but no Su-47
3ccf42 No.14991107
>>14990932
Good. An AC game without a Berkut is barely an AC game.
>>14991026
The cockpit on the "1" and "3" pictures of the 3rd pic.
ffd624 No.14991200
>>14991107
1 and 3 are a Rafale cockpit, dude. The Su-47 had a similar layout, but you can see the screen placement is different and it has a refueling probe, which a Su-47 doesn't have.
3ccf42 No.14991418
>>14991200
Nvm it's just an angled shot. Yeah it's a Rafale.
Still, I hope they add a Berkut anyway.
bf5ff9 No.14992243
>>14991418
As long as there's Sukhoi aircraft, the 47 is sure to show up. Though something tells me that the Su-57 ( formerly T-50) will be taking it's place due to it being new.
47 will always be my flaifu however
ffd624 No.14992328
>>14992243
I'm honestly shocked that we haven't had a confirmation for the Su-57 appearing yet, especially since the game itself has heavy futuristic vibes and it's already been prominently featured in Assault Horizon. Though I guess when compared to the F-22 and F-35 the Su-57 is just """""futuristic""""" and after seeing how well its last appearance went with the fans Sukhoi might just wanna stick to the classics.
3ccf42 No.14993083
>>14992243
Why would they even replace aircraft though? Disc room is a non-issue.
ffd624 No.14993185
>>14993083
Licensing fees, I suppose. Remember that PA basically needs to get permission and pay to use every single non-fictional aircraft in the game. I don't think disc space was ever the issue. If I remember correctly this is why Ace Combat 5 has such a large roster of aircraft, cause it also had one of the highest budgets for an Ace Combat game.
3ccf42 No.14993196
>>14993185
Oh, right. The fucking royalties.
Videogame royalties are the most retarded shit ever.
ffd624 No.14993330
>>14993196
You'd think aircraft manufacturers would be more cool with video game depictions of their aircraft. It's basically free publicity for them. Boeing especially is gonna need all the help they can get after being BTFO'd by Bombardier (and kinda everyone else too, pending the result of T-X). Though to be fair it's not like the people actually deciding which aircraft to buy would be playing games like this.
3ccf42 No.14993426
>>14993330
Lockheed should be paying companies to portray their shit ever since videogames were invented honestly.
3bb0f5 No.14993474
>>14993426
If anything, Lockheed would sue. It is one of their favorite things to do afterall.
f7e0f0 No.14993540
>>14992243
>>14992328
Hey guys, check the lower right hand corner of this screenshot. Su-57 confirmed.
>>14993426
>the SR-71, F-117, RQ-170, C-130, F-22, L-1011, C-5, U-2, S-3, V-280, T-50, and A-4AR were all shit
Wew
bf5ff9 No.14993669
>>14993083
Oh I didn't mean to sound like the 57 would be in the game and the 47 wouldn't, I meant it's role as "elite enemy squadron plane of choice". Guess I worded that wrong.
That said, 6 in particular was missing an entire line of MiG aircraft, but hopefully that was just a one time fluke.
c0c0c9 No.14993761
>>14989632
>They also won't be considered a hero unlike past games
This bit has me nervous. I can think of many good, and many badplots this line may refer to.
I hope it's more like a disgraced anti-hero thing where you join that prisoner 3 strikes squadron.
c0c0c9 No.14993788
>>14993330
>Boeing especially is gonna need all the help they can get after being BTFO'd by Bombardier (and kinda everyone else too, pending the result of T-X).
What happened? I haven't been following it.
>>14993540
I wonder if we'll see one of China or Japan's new 5th generation aircraft in it.
ffd624 No.14994133
>>14993788
>What happened? I haven't been following it.
It's sort of a long story, and I'm telling this from memory so I might get some details wrong.
Basically, Bombardier developed a new family of passenger aircraft, the CSeries, and Boeing argued that because the Canadian government gave Bombardier $1 billion to help develop the aircraft (total program cost is over $7 billion) they should be either barred from or heavily fined for selling the aircraft in the United States. Boeing's entire case hinged on the idea that Canada's contribution is what allowed Bombardier to make an aircraft that had better performance than their own while selling at a lower cost, going so far as to say that what the Canadian government was illegally dumping money into Bombardier so that the company could sell below the supposed production cost. Boeing went ALL IN on this, and the case went from a dispute over a sale to Delta airlines to an existential threat to Bombardier. Bombardier was facing being almost completely closed out of the US market, with a 300% tariff placed on them by the Commerce Department, which would have been disastrous for their business. However the U.S. International Trade Commission found that Bombardier wasn't selling below-cost, Boeing's business was not threatened by Bombardier since they already dominate the US market, and closing Bombardier out of the US local airline market would effectively give Boeing a monopoly. Boeing was basically trying to destroy their competition and they got stopped dead in their tracks, and have now declined to appeal the ruling. Now they get to deal with the Canadian government being PISSED at them for that whole "illegal subsidies" thing (Boeing had recieved over $64 billion in US government subsidies and loans between 2000 and 2014) so much so that there's basically no chance of the RCAF buying Super Hornets anymore, with the competition now likely going to the F-35A once again, but the Rafale and Eurofighter are also still in the game. This is an impressive level of pissed off, because before all this Justin Trudeau had been extremely favorable toward Boeing, and one of his big campaign promises was to drop the F-35 in favor of a "new competitor" which would have likely been the Super Hornet. On top of this, many European nations have also voiced their concerns over doing future business with Boeing, especially the UK and Ireland.
>one of China
Probably not honestly. Japan and China aren't exactly on speaking terms, so I doubt it would be possible to get the data PA'd need to properly recreate the J-20 or J-31.
>or Japan's new 5th generation aircraft
The X-2 or a fully developed F-3 is much more likely though.
ab5372 No.14995512
I just bought the ps2 trilogy in PAL format, hopefully nothing is different besides the name.
37c408 No.14996181
Two new high resolution images from Bamco's twatter
ffd624 No.14996277
>>14996181
>New strangereal map has borders for unnamed countries
Ooh goody I can't wait to see the fan maps
a5e9cd No.14996780
>>14996279
Belka will rise again.
0632b9 No.14997396
>>14975765
>>14975240
>>14975788 (Checked)
>>14975845
I asked the dev, Steam is a definite and he's going to look into GOG closer to release.
8f99fe No.14997466
>>14995512
Chopper calls Blaze "Booby" instead of kid.
c0c0c9 No.14998649
>>14994133
>that whole story
Whoa man that's fucking crazy. Kinda wish I had been paying attention. I guess that's what happens when you're blinded by greed.
>>14994133
>Probably not honestly. Japan and China aren't exactly on speaking terms, so I doubt it would be possible to get the data PA'd need to properly recreate the J-20 or J-31.
Is that really an issue? It's not as if Ace Combat is ultra realistic. I'm sure players care much if they had to fib the numbers for it. Then again I wonder how many players even have interest in a Chinese plane. I mostly just wanted to see more planes beyond the usual American and Russian jets.
c0c0c9 No.14998664
>>14996181
I find it kinda weird they didn't label the 3 countries in Anea.
ba2314 No.14998737
>>14975995
Electrosphere was great, put that chart back into that swamp ass of yours
ffd624 No.14999109
>>14996279
What's up with that weird map? Geography looks all wrong
>>14998649
It's both a legal and technical issue. Because at the very least PA wouldn't be able to use the J-20 or J-31 name without permission from Shenyang and Chengdu. The same laws that protect American and Russian IPs also apply to them. On the technical side of things, the devs need to at least see how the cockpit looks in person, especially with AC7 with its crazy detailed cockpit views. They might also want data on how the flaps and ailerons react with specific inputs to make the aircraft animate with as much realism as possible.
ffd624 No.14999166
>>14999109
Fuck forgot pic
f7e0f0 No.15002345
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
NEW TRAILER IS UP BOYS. GET TO ANALYZING
f47f2d No.15002363
Why all the hype if the last few games have been shit and the game is extremely casual as far as flight sims go, i mean it's not even a flight sim why use HOTAS?
3ccf42 No.15002365
>>15002345
>FAS has an EMP halo now
Looks like an angel or something.
>Osean Air Base
>"You're expendable"
Guess they're the villains now. Maybe deserters who didn't agree with Osea invading Erusea to build their Space Elevator.
3ccf42 No.15002369
>>15002363
Because it's an arcadey game, not a sim.
And sims are neither games, nor fun.
37c408 No.15002377
>>15002375
Anon we've known that for a while
3ccf42 No.15002380
>>15002377
I know but still
ffd624 No.15002391
>>15002345
MY DICK
>>15002363
First of all, it's not a flight sim, it's a dogfighting sim at most. More Sky Rogue than DCS. Secondly, all the hype is exactly because this is different from the last few games, though only one of them was truly shit. This game is being developed in the style of and by the people who made the PS2 era games, which are considered the best in the series.
>>15002375
So? We've known it would be on steam since it was announced for PC.
3ccf42 No.15002407
>>15002391
This is cruel
I want to be Berkut-chan's friend
ffd624 No.15002422
>>15002407
It ends better than you'd think
ffd624 No.15002425
>>15002422
Part 2. sorry about 1st part being out of order
f7e0f0 No.15002454
>>15002422
>Guess she's on the phone
>…wait, who would she even talk to in the first place?
Too real for me.
fbe119 No.15002494
>>15002345
>Looks like sand Island Base
>"The Beast" has Ciphers decal design but with Pixy's colouring on a Razgriz Body colour? I'm thinking that that's what the Unnamed Scientinst is working on and It's based on flight data of "the best pilots that have ever flown™"
>Still no release date
>>15002365
>Guess they're the villains now
Yeah I got that kinda impression and the "Sinner" thing reminds me a lot of Freedom Wars where you "work off your crimes" by doing jobs for the people that imprisoned you.
Could either be deserters or POW's.
01fd94 No.15002504
>>15002345
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvA2Qswz2xE
US TRAILER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmG7ewXE1M
JAPANESE TRAILER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfRByopXiAI
EU TRAILER
>Japanese and EU trailers uses the same dialog
>US trailer has different dialog from the girl
Give all three hits. Raise that view count, it might convince Bandai Namco to give this series some more love!
3ccf42 No.15002510
>>15002422
>>15002425
At least they didn't abandon her
Good end!
3ccf42 No.15002535
>>15002494
>>15002345
>>15002504
Wait a fucking minute.
The guy at the end says that the prisoners are "expendable pilots". If Osea is using them, it means they're technically using non-national military forces for their deniable black ops wetwork so they won't take the blame for attacking Erusea.
Does that mean that the player and co. are gonna be branded as some kind of rogue terrorist group/bad guys of the story by both sides early on since they're not enlisted?
Does it mean they'll have to escape, prove themselves innocent and then reveal Osea to be the ones scheming behind the curtains ala Razgriz? But if they do that, they'll risk having Osea and Erusea start a major war, so what the fuck are they gonna do? Will they have to exile themselves at the end and live with the infamy for the betterment of Strangereal?
If they're technically mercenaries without pay, does that mean that the game's theme is mercenary work, thus raising the possibility of Cipher's/Pixy's cameo?
3ccf42 No.15002543
>>15002535
Will the Razgriz folks show up to calm things down? Is Nordennavic gonna offer shelter for the prisoner pilots?
01fd94 No.15002557
>>15002494
>>15002345
>E3 2017 trailer.
>Farbanti attacked
>"Osea attacks indiscriminantly and has remorsefully injured countless innocent civilians."
>E3 2018 trailer
>US Trailer: "Do you wonder what it means to be a prisoner here? Everything is rotten to the core." ""Hmmph, another newbie's been tossed into the mix. I wonder what sort of crap he's done."
>EU Trailer: "How penal is this penal unit, you ask? This place is a shithole." " Today they tossed someone new into the mix. Wonder what he did to get sent here."
>BOTH TRAILERS: "You have three sin lines, right, Trigger? The more scratches, the more heinous the crime." "Spare 15 [Trigger] work off your crimes."
The E3 2017 trailer makes more sense now, especially with the line "remorsefully". So Trigger must have injured/killed civilians accidentally or on orders from the Osean Military. He may have been sent to the Penal Squadron as a "sacrificial lamb" in potential peace/cease fire talks between Osea and Erusea. Politics 101.
>>15002494
>I'm thinking that that's what the Unnamed Scientinst is working on and It's based on flight data of "the best pilots that have ever flown™"
So "The Beast" becomes the basis for Nemo in Electrosphere?
>>15002535
That sounds cool, but I hope they BURN OSEA TO THE GROUND
>>15002543
I hope they make references to the earlier games for historical context and hopefully as an important role like >>15002535 said. Say, Nagase gives the penal squadron a record of the Razgriz incident and she mentions something that Osea's scheming reminds her of what Belka did during that time.
fbe119 No.15002579
>>15002557
>So "The Beast" becomes the basis for Nemo in Electrosphere?
yes
f7e0f0 No.15002611
>>15002543
I remember hearing about a leak last year describing a mission late in the game where four black F-14s come in and save Trigger.
01fd94 No.15002615
37c408 No.15002630
>>15002611
Sounds fake as hell
ffd624 No.15002702
>>15002630
>>15002615
>>15002611
I think I remember that one. It was proven fake.
3bb0f5 No.15002909
>>15002345
>Become prisoner to Osean dogs
adcb6f No.15002973
>>15002535
The prisoner planes has the Osean emblem on them so I don't think that's the case.
3bb0f5 No.15003001
Wonder how they'll keep you from turning around and attacking Osea if you are a prisoner allowed to fly a fighter jet.
3ccf42 No.15003013
>>15002973
But the first trailer shows that they're imprisoned?
f7e0f0 No.15003014
>>15003001
They probably put a self-destruct function in their planes. If you fly out of the operating airspace they'll blow you up without a second thought. You are expendable, after all.
a5e9cd No.15003086
>>15003014
Makes sense to put prisoners into 100+ million dolla airplanes to blow them up if they act up in any way. Or put prisoners in them in the first place. It's not like there a like a trillion other soldiers trying to become fighter pilots, noboy wants to fly fighter jets in the military anyway.
3ccf42 No.15003116
>>15003086
They're probably being used for dirty work that they can take the sole blame for, which Osea can't link itself to.
a572d8 No.15003126
Something tells me the time spent in the scrap squadron will be just five or six missions at the start of the game, where you'll be limited to flying hand-me-downs from the real airforce. It'll be like AC5 in that regard.
After that I suppose you'll strike out on your own or something. I'm really hoping for massively diverging story paths, different missions, fighting major battles on different sides depending on choices the player makes.
Not that a regular linear campaign with extra polish would be bad or anything. Game looks fucking good.
a5e9cd No.15003137
>>15003116
>They're probably being used for dirty work that they can take the sole blame for, which Osea can't link itself to.
That makes sense. A lone pilot flying terror attacks sounds logical. It's not like he needs an airbase or any infrastructure behind him to fly in the first place, right? It's not like informations can get extracted out of him if he gets caught, right?
I mean, if Assad is killed by a random F22 attack and the pilot is shot down and captured, the usa's claim that it wasdone by just some random crazy guy would be totally believable.
a5e9cd No.15003141
>>15003126
If the game was like Colony Wars in that regard it would be great, but I think it will just be another linear campaign.
fbe119 No.15003144
>>15003086
It'll be the "humans are better than the machine" meme as Erusia is using UAV's as their attack force.
e8efc7 No.15003155
>>14996181
Is anyone besides me interested in a non-Ace Combat game set in Strangereal?
adcb6f No.15003203
>>15003086
Piloting the F35 seems like a punishment in itself.
fbe119 No.15003205
>>15003155
I could see a militaristic game where you play as the ground units but then that's just battlefield in a fictional universe.
3ccf42 No.15003212
>>15003137
>It's not like he needs an airbase or any infrastructure behind him to fly in the first place
It can very well be a Golden Axe Plan.
adcb6f No.15003215
>>15003205
What about a naval combat game?
3ccf42 No.15003224
>>15003215
>Strangereal game where you play as a battleship
>yfw a Scinfaxi class ship shows up
18d2d8 No.15003234
>>14996181
The map would have been better without the grid.
01fd94 No.15003239
>>15003155
>>15003205
That was actually planned, but cancelled. It was called Brave Arms. Unsure of the other Project Aces games. Found on the shitty wiki.
http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/2007_game_concepts
bbf6da No.15003281
>>15003239
>>15003155
AC success would have to be massive in order to even consider branching off to other genres.
And i don't see many normalfaggots playing this game.
fbe119 No.15003657
>>15003239
>Tfw you could have been playing sea goblin saving Nagase but Namco made Dark Souls instead.
3ccf42 No.15003698
>>15003657
>You could have been Altman throwing hand grenades and clearing rooms inside Megalith as Mobius squadron fights the Yellows overhead
>You could have been a grunt of the ground forces who sieged Cruik Fortress with the Razgriz squadron
>You could have been a Ustio freedom fighter liberating the nation from Belkans with the aid of Galm Team as the bells of the churches ring through the air
432fe6 No.15003723
>>15002345
Isn't this literally just Area 88: Strangereal Edition?
a5e9cd No.15003889
>>15003155
>Is anyone besides me interested in a non-Ace Combat game set in Strangereal?
I'm looking forward to the Hearts of Iron IV mod.
a5e9cd No.15003901
>>15003698
>>You could have been a Ustio freedom fighter liberating the nation from Belkans
You mean separatist terrorists good goy fighting for Osean world domination, right?
3ccf42 No.15003912
>>15003901
Nah
Git off my country Belkan fucking shits. Just because you fucked your own economy doesn't mean you get to steal back land you legally sold
fbe119 No.15003955
>You could have been one of the choir in Sudentor opening the doors for the Razgriz to enter and destroy the V2
>You could have been launching the V2 at Avalon Dam before Cipher thwarted your plans.
a5e9cd No.15004023
>>15003912
>Osean shill shilling again
Stop supporting domestic separatist terrorists you fucking Osean imperialists. Belka will be whole again.
fbe119 No.15004105
>>15003912
I wonder who could be behind this post
3ccf42 No.15004124
>>15004023
Because going poor and nuking yourself 7 times over is better, right?
fbe119 No.15004127
>>15004124
THE LAND TO THE NORTH IS THE HOLY LAND OF BELKA
ffd624 No.15006095
>>15003086
While some of the planes (though not all) in real life cost an upwards of $100 million, I always figured that Strangereal companies had figured out some way to manufacture aircraft and equipment incredibly quickly and cheaply, which would explain why independent mercenaries like Cipher, Pixy, and PJ were able to afford to own and fly F-15s and F-16s.
On a side note, out of curiosity I looked to see which aircraft in AC7's roster actually exceeded $100 million, and the top 3 (adjusted for inflation) were kinda surprising. Naturally, #1 BY FAR is the F-22, it's pretty hard to beat an estimated $339 million unit cost (many sources like to cite the $150 million flyaway cost in 2009 as an act of mercy). Coming in at #2 is the F-117 at $173.8 million adjusted for inflation. I was sorta surprised, but nowhere near as much as #3, the Mitsubishi F-2. It comes in at $149.1 million adjusted for inflation.
432fe6 No.15006573
>>15006095
>I always figured that Strangereal companies had figured out some way to manufacture aircraft and equipment incredibly quickly and cheaply
This much is stated outright in AC5, although the implication was that it wasn't invented until long after Cipher's time.
Also since this is a penal squadron they're probably getting nothing but obsolete or EOL airframes that the air force already considers expendable.
fbe119 No.15006803
>>15006095
In AC 5 they mention that Grunder reduced the number of parts planes were made up of, both reducing cost and imp[roving performance
infinity also mentioned the Advanced Automated Aviation Plant which could be the same thing by another name and since 7 is set so far in the future they could reuse this idea
ffd624 No.15007125
>>15006803
>since 7 is set so far in the future
7 takes place next year dude. I still agree with you, but 2019 isn't the far future anymore.
fbe119 No.15007675
>>15007125
>2019 is next year
>Nothing has changed since the millenium
Fuckin' hell that's depressing
also Infinity is set in 2019 so it could still work
72524e No.15007850
>>15002345
We begin as mage 2, no scratchs on insignia, a legit squadron. Sometime later we are sent on some mission, (unbeknown to us) that will become the catalyst to the war(?) and play the rest of the game as Trigger?
72524e No.15007864
>>15007850
>mean't spare squadron not trigger