/v/ - Video Games

>>14899978

It's a fun game.

>>14900015

>unironically saying a game is fun

I hope you enjoy crucifixions, anon.

>>14900020

he's right though. taken as a resident evil title 4 is terrible and was the harbinger of death for the original direction of the series. taken as a game re4 is a dumb, silly and fun game with a satisfying power arc, good replay value and good production values

because it's a simple but effective game. No one's really "apologizing" for it. you can throw out the "it's good but its not RE" argument or whatever but that's semantics really. The game works out of the box, it's functional and has solid mechanics and enough reasons to replay it a few times and at the time it was pretty new and different feeling from other stuff on the market.

>>14900034

>and was the harbinger of death for the original direction of the series.

yes and no, they could have expanded on it's formula in a way that benefited the game but they went with further streamlining and sneaking co-op in. RE5 early concepts sounded a lot more interesting with things like having sunlight and heat working against the player but it all fell apart

>apologists

Wait what? People here, HERE, worked on that game?!

RE5 was more fun than RE4 tbh, especially in coop.

>Why do some people like what I don't like?

Stop bumping cuckchan threads

You know that phrase "it's a good game, but not a good X game" that people use to justify shitty reboots? It applies here, except it's not wrong.

>>14900074

Actually my opening picture got me banned as " pornography " followed by another ban because I called the mod out for just shutting down threads.

I'm always curious as to if RE would have survived at all without RE4. sure it's been downhill since but I can't see the classic formula working well enough with the market making for improved control schemes. Obviously a large part of the "horror" aspect came from limited movement and actual loss of something for death, in REs case it was time player spent running around. I always feel that RE4 mechanics could work and they could keep the spooks by DRASTICALLY reducing ammo count and actually giving players a reason to try to avoid the enemies

>>14900064

I wonder how the story would have turned out without the RE4 rewrite, why that even happened?

>>14900015

THIS

sometimes there's no explanation for fun, or maybe i'm just not that smart to realize what exactly is it that makes RE4 fun, but fun it is

just like Manhunt, it's the blandest game you'll ever play, repetitive, generic, very lacking in many aspects very flawed in many places, but you just can't quit it, becose no matter how you try to analize the monotonous shity gameplay tryiong to find why is it fun even during it's dumbest levels… it still is just fun

i could descrive the game and it'll sound like shit to anyone, but you play it and you just have fun, it's almost like magic

RE4 is the same in that regard, it's fun despite it's many issues

>>14900155

RE4 was originally supposed to be a spooky game where leon was dealing with his RE2 baggage. Some where it got thrown out for a more action oriented game because the team kept making action games despite production telling them what to make. This also resulted in DMC, but even still..

>>14900139

The success of remake and 0 hd tell me that resident evil could have continued with that classic formula just fine. The problem is that making a solid game with the old formula takes a lot of work and skill compared to cranking out a fun third person shooter.

Not to diminish the vision behind re4, but the re4 formula seems a lot easier to reproduce for today's devs.

>>14900193

>The success of remake and 0 hd tell me that resident evil could have continued with that classic formula just fine.

Remember that those remasters happened after many years under the tps RE era, so it's probably that the fact that the people wanted to go back to the time when RE didn't just consisted of explosions and fighting monsters of the size of a city while doing acrobatic tricks in the air played a part on their success.

But I do agree in the fact that the classic RE style needed more thoughtful time, specially designing the puzzles and item location.

>>14900139

No. People can't decide on what makes a good Survival Horror game.

>>14900073

2nd player is usually not playing the game because he enjoys it. If women weren't so bad at games, hiring a prostitute to play with you would have been a better option.

>>14900445

>People can't decide on what makes a good Survival Horror game.

I feel like the formula is probably a lot simpler than most think, make the key word "survive" and give players a reason to avoid confrontation and actually give risk to the players deaths so they can be on edge

>>14900176

What the heck caliber are those meant to be? They look almost the size of a thumb.

It's a pretty good game held back from greatness by quick time events. Such a shame.

>>14900162

>sometimes there's no explanation for fun, or maybe i'm just not that smart to realize what exactly is it that makes RE4 fun, but fun it is

RE4's gunplay is incredible, the guns feel powerful and the enemies' damage response is satisfying. Even when everything in that game is completely flawed, the gunplay still stands out.

>>14900034

this right here tbh

Resident Evil is one of my favorite franchises and 4 was and still is a good gimmicky fun game with replay value because of the upgrade system and mercenaries etc. it was good at being something unique but it turned the direction towards action heavy and it's legacy is cancerous.

>>14900193

not really because the subsequent games in the re franchise never lived up to 4, 5 was average but it took the exploration element out of the game and completely fucked everything up and they focused on graphics and style over substance now they've gone so far as to favor style to the point when there isn't really any gameplay(I think 7 is a trash game that's just my personal opinon)

the only people who don't like RE4 are too slow to pass QTE

>>14900020

>le fun is a buzzword meme

sorry, some of us like to have fun, we can't all just play bad korean MMOs like you for our grinding dopamine rushes

Linearity is not necessarily a bad thing. Have a nice day.

>>14899978

>How come a game where enemies drop health ammo and money

What's bad about this?

>and is very linear with no long term exploration

Reasonable criticism.

>expanding the risk of death gets a pass?

What?

>>14899978

>Transfat: The point at which the excess adipose tissue completely absorbs all primary and secondary sexual characteristics - making at-a-glance identification impossible.

This shit used to be horror movie/freak show absurdity for shock value. Now it's being pushed as the new beauty standard. If everything is grotesque, then nothing is.

>>14900372

I unironically liked silent hill 4. I don't even mind the ghosts you can't kill

>>14901226

>What's bad about this?

In survival horror games confrontation is meant to be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Enemies dropping ammo contradicts that design philosophy and encourages players to go full gunslinger in most cases.

>>14900176

Bullet drops in TEW are fucking ridiculous but I did find it interesting how I always had just enough ammo for an encounter.

>>14904322

Same here. The Room is my second favorite Silent Hill.

>>14904340

RE4 is not survival horror. It's a third person shooter with survival horror elements.

>>14905490

>RE4 is not survival horror

duh

>It's a third person shooter with survival horror elements

nope, it's a horror themed action game

>>14900445

I always thought survival horror just meant having limited items and not being able to auto regenerate health and only only having to use healing items.

>>14899978

The thread you made on saturday is still up, faggot. >>14856600