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Level up curse Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 12:15:04 3741e0 No.14877238

I can't enjoy games without exp/level up/currency systems for prolonged periods of time because I don't feel "rewarded" for my "effort".

If you don't get some items/experience/money or any other tangible long term reward from killing an enemy I don't feel incentive to even kill it. Especially if it takes resource like bullets.

Best case scenario is that you spend some bullets and enemy drops some bullets, hopefully more than you have spent, but that's about it.

It all started in later 90s with SOTN and Diablo 1 where I felt unadulterated joy of getting more powerful just by killing regular enemies, getting stronger equipment and new abilities through that, and not just through chronological/geographical progress like in most action games prior that era.

I realized this recently when I tried playing some classics that I missed like Half-Life or Doom. I just don't feel encouragement in keeping playing.

I know there is progression where you find stronger weapons and what not, but just killing each single enemy doesn't give you shit, except for bullets that you've already spent.

So the question is - how do I cure myself from this skinnerbox cancer addiction to exp? Especially with single player games perpetuating it this days, as you have exp in everything - cuhrazee games, shooters, even platformers.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 12:38:12 53991d No.14877300

>Especially if it takes resource like bullets.

OY VEY I'M NOT WASTIN' BULLETS ON YOU DUMB GOYIM!

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 12:42:05 3741e0 No.14877312

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>>14877300

I'll check those doubles, but that doesn't give me the solution.

Even supposedly hardcore games like DMC3 or Godhand have per-enemy rewards that contribute to your overall progression.

Last action game without RPG elements I played was Jedi Academy, and even then you get to level up your force powers after each stage, but at least killing enemies wasn't permanently beneficial.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 13:30:26 e5f744 No.14877483

>>14877238

>how do I cure myself from this skinnerbox cancer addiction to exp?

Stop playing video games for a year or two. Do something else, or you will burn completely out, and never want to play anything again.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 13:31:21 3741e0 No.14877486

>>14877483

That is simply impossible.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 13:36:00 031f34 No.14877502

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>>14877486

i guess your fucked then

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 13:49:51 5e3173 No.14877536

>>14877300 (checked)

I was way too Jewish with my ammunition in any games I played when I was younger, to the point where I'd pick melee classes in favour of mages or archers especially if those classes required some sort of ammunition or consumables because I had no concept of conserving shit and I'd either waste too much shit by spraying or be too conservative and be afraid of missing and wasting too much ammo to the point where I never killed shit fast enough…

My advice for the OP is to follow >>14877483's advice or at the least play some other games that don't require progression in the form of exp and challenge you in other ways.

If you play any rpgs or MMOs (God forbid) then how about make another character/campaign just for the satisfaction of levelling up again? I used to be a huge altaholic in games simply because I just had to play every class or playstyle to get the most out of a game… When I hit level cap with one of them shit was so stagnant with that class simply because there's nothing to do other than daily quests or whatever, the single player version of this was completing the game and having nothing else to do.

A good sign of autism is playing the same game for a very long time and either not getting bored of it or not being able to play anything different… Progression purely in the form of levelling up or increasing your stats through experience is very autistic. I would know.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 14:00:18 28b996 No.14877580

I have the same problem though probably not as severe, unless the game is somehow great or I can see that I did gain something, feeling no progression of any sort tends to quickly remove my enjoyment. I also have a similar issue with bullets as you do, I always was conservative as fuck with ammunition even if it was obvious in Doom 2 I am going to always be getting more than I spend. I remember reloading when I felt I wasted too much ammo on an encounter, despite having probably enough to finish 5 more maps with ease.

Hell, I also remember playing Jazz Jackrabbit 1 and using only the regular blaster with infinite ammo because I didn't want to spend ammunition of other shit, keeping it "for later", which was usually "never". Granted that game had horrid balance, blaster wasn't really worse than anything else, everything died with the same amount of hits from what I remember. Strangely I was more willing to spend in Jazz Jackrabbit 2 later on, where blaster actually was worse.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 14:11:22 3741e0 No.14877646

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>>14877502

I'm a huge fucking faggot btw.

>>14877536

>>14877580

You know what makes JA great apart from cool movesets? Lightsaber is infinite, good enough to not use and ranged weapons and your force power slowly regenerates.

So you just don't have ammunition issues, no matter how autistic you might be.

Another game like that is Oni where you can just dodge shot and melee everyone into submission without shooting once in the entire game.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 14:32:26 17e0d9 No.14877770

>>14877238

You're just a massive RPGfag, that's all there is to it. Nothing wrong with it, and at least most modern games cater to that mindset.

Anonymous 05/30/18 (Wed) 14:35:22 221a6d No.14877800

Play umihara kawase abd realize if it's not skill based it's cancer

Anonymous 05/31/18 (Thu) 00:18:12 02cdcd No.14880642

bump

Anonymous 05/31/18 (Thu) 00:31:53 565421 No.14880680

Play Wizardry 4 and Rogue, and only Wizardry 4 and Rogue, until you beat one of them.

Anonymous 05/31/18 (Thu) 00:48:10 002b3f No.14880753

>>14877238

Why not try getting into some more arcade styled games where you have a new high score to aim for? Or perhaps something with a time attack feature? If you want to feel rewarded for your efforts playing nothing really signifies that better than a new personal best record.

Hell, you might even be able to get enjoyment out of speedrunning.