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6be69c No.14868320
BEFORE YOU CLICK START AT 8:26
Some eceleb faggot uploaded an old interview with Gabe n the gang from 1999, if any anon is interested about why the fuck PC gaming went to shit and who was at the head front (Along with other companies of course) of the now "social experience" in video games. Check out the video, Gabe is the ultimate Salesmen well Mark and the other dude actually sound like they give a shit about the games they use to make.
62e3fe No.14868517
Give summary faggot, I might get interested in actually watching the whole thing and talk if it isn't a waste of time.
6a76b1 No.14868529
>>14868517
this. I did start watching it because you gave a timestamp, but I'm not sure why after a few minutes. it's just yammering about team fortress classic and valve employees not making HL3
6be69c No.14868545
6d7323 No.14868550
Ross' drunk brother is not a good eceleb.
16850b No.14868551
>>14868320
Valve were never good.
0edcfe No.14868633
>>14868320
the audio is fucking horrible
6be69c No.14868641
>>14868633
It's from a 1999 online talk show.
078236 No.14868902
3fe285 No.14868940
>MetalJewsusRocks
Fuck ooooooooooooooffffffffffffffffffffff
078236 No.14868991
>>14868940
OP gave a time stamp, its on hooktube and I don't think that faggot is even in the interview.
3f21db No.14870664
Gaming is shit because the whole world shifts towards political correctness and tries to take itself way to serious.
67d381 No.14870679
>That Deadpool ebin portal reference shirt
I would've been embarrassed to wear that fucking shit in highschool, how can a grown ass man wear it?
909b98 No.14870703
>>14868320
>why the fuck PC gaming went to shit
was anyone actually wondering this? pretty obvious. normalfags getting into computers started it and destroyed everything from social media, porn, to general website utility. using a computer in general is a painful experience nowadays. it was only a matter of time until this would spill over onto pc gaming.
anyone who uses steam is to blame for tha spill over. i uninstalled it as soon as it tried to install itself when i got HL2, tried to reinstall thinking i forgot to uncheck the box. no box to uncheck, find out game requires steam. return game.
simple as that.
anyone who didnt do the same is to blame.
1e6704 No.14870719
Half Life was the first time I remember a game being an obviously overhyped astroturf. You saw people who literally never even touched a computer talking about it.
909b98 No.14870766
>>14870723
yes, blame the default societal order. that'll keep you from identifying the actual problems.
b77de6 No.14870779
>>14870766
that the average consumer just doesn't give a shit and will happily consume everything
a21466 No.14870786
>>14870664
Funnily enough communists did the same thing with science fiction in the 1930s. By taking up gate keeping jobs.
94f669 No.14870794
>>14868633
>>14868641
the sound quality really takes me back
462ef1 No.14870798
>>14868940
What the fuck is wrong with MJR?
a6ce40 No.14870799
>>14870766
>capitalism, that has only existed for ~250 years, is the dafault
>being default means it's good
Keep supporting the system where the elite sucks off most of the value generated by your labour you useful idiot.
a20b4e No.14870833
>>14870799
>capitalism, that has only existed for ~250 years
Do you seriously think people didn't barter until the fucking Industrial Revolution?
909b98 No.14870840
>>14870799
>~250 years
>this is your brain on leftypol
get help, faggot.
a6ce40 No.14870843
>>14870833
Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. In practice generally by an increasingly small part of the population that has no accountability to society.
c64f24 No.14870849
>>14868320
Here's the summary basically:
Gabe Newell came from Micro$hit, leaving only because he wanted his way to make mega bucks.
Founds Valve with a bunch of nerds, who actually care about their craft.
Nerds make a bunch of games, including a classic FPS.
Meanwhile, Gabe Newell is plotting to use success to bring PC gaming to as wide an audience as possible for his future (((plans))).
>>14870766
>blame the default societal order
>"The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil"
>No use fighting the order goy. You don't want to starve like our communist cous…..WHOOPS! I mean like those damn dirty commies, right? Enjoy your plentiful mediocrity.
>>14870786
Capitalism and communism are both shit, merely two sides of the same coin.
e7f252 No.14870856
Here, the audio quality is trash anyway. Probably been reencoded 15 times since 1999, one more won't hurt.
c64f24 No.14870857
>>14870843
>Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production.
Not even close, as that is too simplistic. Even distributionists believe in that, for most people anyways.
909b98 No.14870874
>>14870779
theyre told what to consume. computers became cheap because china slave labor, the "narrative" lead them to all go online post their personal data, and abandon their lives in the real world. the same narrative that lead women to enter the workforce. which doubled the workforce and halved the value of all income. all opposition was suppressed, and that evil was not just "profits"
>>14870843
private ownership, instead of state ownership or community ownership. any system where someone can own a house, or sell/trade a thing they made is capitalism. its been around as long as civilization has.
>>14870849
>fighting the order, by abandoning whats natural in place of what kikes that genocided white europeans came up with
youre such a good goy.
c64f24 No.14870924
>>14870874
>fighting the order,
>by abandoning whats natural
>love of money is natural
>what kikes that genocided white europeans came up with
>playing the commie card, like good goy you are, when I just said I hated communism
>implying Adam Smith, the Austrians, the Chicago goons, neocons, or Keynesists aren't just as kikeish
You're cute.
>theyre told what to consume.
Why is that so bad in a capitalist society? The marketers are only using their hard-earned capital to influence people. Why do you have to be such a damn communist?
1e6704 No.14870947
>thread about a dishonest company being a piece of shit
>/leftypol/ immediately shows up to IP hop and derail discussion
94f669 No.14870952
Can you answer this?
>what is the name of the spidery looking creature on zen?
straight from gaben
909b98 No.14870981
>>14870924
>fighting the order,
yes
>by abandoning whats natural
yes
>love of money is natural
love of money =/= capitalism
>what kikes that genocided white europeans came up with
yes
>playing the commie card
and socialism
>Why is [telling people what to consume] so bad in a capitalist society? the marketers are only using their hard-earned capital to influence people.
why is using money to influence a population against its own interests for a (((greater cause))) a bad thing? do you think anything is ok in a capitalist society as long as you pay for it? do you think hitmen are legal?
maybe you should educate yourself on what capitalism actually means and how broad of a "system" it is.
482a49 No.14870996
>>14870786
what exactly do you mean anon? please elaborate on "gate keeping jobs"
a21466 No.14871110
>>14870996
Someone posted a vid of a furfag detailing the history of how communists attempted to take over the science fiction using quotes from people who saw it happen during the time period.
Basically a group called the Futurians, who where openly communist, wanted to use science fiction to push their agenda. At the time, the majority of science fiction was published in magazines back then, not books. These publishing jobs paid jack shit which made it easy for the Futurians to grab them. This lead to a lot of the golden age stories not being reprinted. Imagine if that happened to games. All the classic console and PC games, memory holed with no internet to download them on. Some also became critics. Criticizing things like the original Star Wars, probably for being a-political.
I remember there was also some antics with the lord of the rings. One of the critics criticized it heavily when it came out (probably for the same reason Star Wars got criticized), and one of the publishers did one of the most stereotypically Jewish things I've ever seen. Tolkien didn't publish LotR in the USA yet, but there was heavy demand. One of the Futurian publishers thought for some reason that, this meant he could just straight up steal Tolkiens work and publish it without paying him a cent, making him loads of money. However, Tolkien got wind of this and sued him, then started publishing LotR here (The Futurian never got fired btw).
But it essentially is games today. A small group of politically motivated leftists are trying to corrupt a medium to push their agenda.
1e6704 No.14871119
>>14870996
Where the fuck have you been since GG? How do you not know about the HR menace?
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60a830 No.14871196
>>14870996
>I see this work doesn't suck off my (((theorist))) of choice
>no need to let this heresy through publishing then
3f21db No.14871282
>>14871271
>USA is communism
>Muslims are good
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a21466 No.14871379
>>14871367
Name a good game that was made by japs.
909b98 No.14871386
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a21466 No.14871393
>>14871386
You fell for the bait. Regardless of what game you name he'll call it shit. Dude wrote of FPS he'll prob write off any other genre you bring up to, like ARPG or RTS.
>>14871389
You fell for the double bait.
909b98 No.14871411
>>14871393
you put more effort into replying to bait than i did. go take a nap.
e5817f No.14871421
>>14871379
Sudoku. You should give it a try. :^)
a21466 No.14871455
b81e5b No.14874727
>>14870833
>A barter economy is the same as capitalism.
kek
4e2899 No.14874886
>>14870981
Capitalism is a tool, and currently it is a tool that is detrimental to people. It should be discarded and the principles of competition (that it is supposed to help facilitate) need to be reapplied in more creative and constructive ways. Or if you do want capitalism to function, you need to impose strict rules to enforce fair play, and ethics. Monopolies are something that need to be protected against by a state, and as soon as a company becomes anti-employee, and anti-human, they should be shut down as well. Duty, and liberty need to be balanced - owning a company is as much a duty as it is a liberty.
c34dd0 No.14874957
>>14874886
>you need to impose strict rules to enforce fair play
Yeah, that's called socialism.
>and as soon as a company becomes anti-employee, and anti-human, they should be shut down as well.
That's when you quit, and not get the government to baby you by shutting down a company and thus put others out of work who may be fine at the same place you're working at. Also, "anti-human" is stupidly nebulous and it's obvious you're trying to sound smarter than you really are.
Corporatism can suck a dick, but it's not something the government should eradicate. Learn economics and more importantly what words fucking mean before making grand declarative statements that make it sound like you're just huffing your own farts.
b616b8 No.14875093
>>14870786
>Capitalism and communism are both shit, merely two sides of the same coin.
the same jewish coin
the true left will rise again
4e2899 No.14875096
>>14874957
>Yeah, that's called socialism
Wrong. It is called capitalism with ethics. That is a nice way to conflate terms, and oversimplify everything you don't like though, isn't it?
A lot of companies are anti-human, and instead of them competing for labor (which is part of what capitalism is supposed to be about), they can give big donations to politicians or hire lobbyists, to import cheap labor from third world shitholes, all so that someone can have some cheap junk that nobody actually wants or needs. The government is also anti-human in nature. It is something that has gotten too big, cold, and mechanical - a cumbersome bureaucratic mess that could only ever exist as a product of incompetent mass democracy. But then again, I should stop replying to you, because you argue in bad faith, and don't actually make any points. Your worldview is limiting, and I would have to take it point by point and refute/modify every facet of your beliefs (which is too time consuming to do on an imageboard), I mention this because you are clearly projecting an idea of your worldview onto my beliefs. Let's both just agree that we both have a lot to learn. I think it was Adam Smith who said (something alone the lines of), "You can't have capitalism without ethics." It would have been in his The Theory of Moral Sentiments, if you are interested in trying to source that, and see how badly I butchered it.
b616b8 No.14875104
>>14874957
>Learn economics
economics is provably a scam. it's a purposefully wrong set of theories publicized to keep you complacent.
e6bd07 No.14875133
>>14875108
>click video
>furry avatar
>fag voice
b616b8 No.14875136
>>14871110
>Criticizing things like the original Star Wars, probably for being a-political.
>star wars
>a-political
star wars is very political. it's very liberal (as in personal freedom) and anti-imperialist (if you hadn't caught on to that). it's a direct reaction to the vietnam war.
4f490c No.14875138
>>14875133
you were warned
e5817f No.14875192
>>14874886
>Monopolies are something that need to be protected against by a state
Monopolies can only exist because of state protection. If Business A keeps fucking you over, you're not going to keep on giving them your money - you'll go and do business with Business B instead. The only way Business A could become a monopoly is if Business B is being legally prevented from doing business.
>as soon as a company becomes anti-employee, and anti-human, they should be shut down
The free market already does that: see above.
>you need to impose strict rules to enforce fair play, and ethics
>owning a company is as much a duty as it is a liberty
We already have those rules, but for (((some strange reason))) companies and corporations are not expected to obey them. The idea of corporate personhood needs to die, and so does limited liability. The owner of a company needs to be held responsible for for the things their company does, the employees of a company need to be held responsible for the things they do while at work, and the shareholders of a company need to be held responsible for the actions of each and every company they own shares of.
>>14874957
>socialism
>fair play
lol
b616b8 No.14875204
>>14875192
>muh free market
>big companies can't butt other companies out of business
>microsoft did nothing wrong
>hurr durr
e6bd07 No.14875220
>>14875204
>what are copyright and patents
Cancer
4e2899 No.14875241
>>14875192
You should look into some of the business practices of John D. Rockefeller, because how he would drive people out of business is precisely what I am talking about. We agree for the most part, but the free market is not always a cure, and you are using it as a synonym for competition (which it is not). Capitalism also relies on people to be conscious and moral agents who are not apathetic towards anyone and everything but themselves. Any time you rely on the masses to make not just intelligent, but also moral decisions (that are frequently in conflict with their immediate wants), you are going to be in a bad spot, unless of course, you think the fleeting desires of the mass-man is an important virtue, and not a vice.
602a18 No.14875364
>>14870703
When Trump removes Net Netuality the internet will be a better place and all normalfags will be removed online.
e5817f No.14875380
>>14875241
>Any time you rely on the masses to make not just intelligent, but also moral decisions (that are frequently in conflict with their immediate wants), you are going to be in a bad spot
Yeah, that's an unavoidable truth. Still, they're never going to learn how to think for themselves unless they start being required to do so. They refuse to change, because there are countless safety-nets and regulations in place to make sure that the consequences of their actions never come back to haunt them, but all it does is create a population of easy targets who can be fleeced repeatedly without ever being bled dry. It's a parasite's wet dream, and companies have adapted to make the most of it. The masses need to grow up; shielding them from the effects of their decisions is just kicking the can down the road, and meanwhile all those amoral companies are learning how to better take advantage of this source of prey that somehow never learns, never fights back, and will never go extinct.
602a18 No.14875388
>>14875241
All of this makes you wonder? Was Hitler really a capitalist? I still personally believe that America can benefit greatly from fascism or stalinism.
4e2899 No.14875416
>>14875388
Your digits demand that I answer. No, Hitler was never, ever a capitalist. He is very obviously anti-capitalist, and said so outright and often.
4e2899 No.14875427
>>14875380
You aren't wrong, just a whole lot more optimistic than myself. I think the masses are more than complacent being slaves to their own desires.
b616b8 No.14875521
>>14875416
never forget nazi germany was the first welfare state which is so succesful in northern europe today
of course it requires a certain moral participation and not just gibsmedats.
24c44a No.14875540
>>14870664
I never learned how to bhop I get the piss kicked out of me all the time on cs 1.6
b616b8 No.14875547
>>14875540
that's okay. bunny hopping is cancer. I think more highly of you for it.
4e2899 No.14875560
>>14875521
They were also the first to force those who are collecting gibs to work, instead of just paying them to do nothing.
529474 No.14875584
>>14875547
>Engine programmers opinion of player practice.
Taken with a grain of salt. Of course the graphics programmer cares more about what makes his life easier and not what makes an arena game fun.
b616b8 No.14875590
>>14875560
I want to point out that the roman senate as well as the northern "ting" was essentially a council of elders, same root as the word "senile". which I think has it's place.
b616b8 No.14875595
>>14875584
exploits are just cheats, by not fixing the bug the tyranny of the cheaters prevents the game from being played the way it was supposed to be, which is ultimately a more fun way.
4e2899 No.14875649
>>14875590
I didn't know that. That gave me an audible laugh, thanks anon.
529474 No.14875655
>>14875595
>exploits are just cheats
Cheats that are fun can be justified as mechanics.
Author intent is not the product, Many games like Magic are able to operate and flourish because designer expectations are subverted by player ingenuity.
>which is ultimately a more fun way.
Subjective as shit.
c34dd0 No.14875660
>>14875096
>forced fair play
>not socialism
Learn English.
>Wrong. It is called capitalism with ethics.
In other words, capitalism.
>Your worldview is limiting,
Your use of language is retarded.
>>14875104
>economics is provably a scam. it's
Learn grammar before posting again. No wonder economics is over your head.
4e2899 No.14875789
>>14875660
>once again no point
kys, faggot. If all you can do is criticize grammar, it shows that you are a hollow capitalist husk :^)