/v/ - Video Games

You have started a good thread, however; there is already a thread up about casuals.

>>14855470

>>14865058

It's not that the games and media are just bad outright, it's that there is a modicum of good in it- we just hold things to a higher standard. We knew what it was like before the time of loot boxes but now that it's become the standard it's a major annoying to people of our generation.

It has some merit but its only partially true. Normalfags can be broken out of things if they're so exceptionally bad but the theory would imply its literally impossible to disappoint a normalfag. Now a game that's mediocre but "fun with friends" happily circumvents that. That's pretty much the case with most modern games and shit.

Its a combination of lowered standards as a result of tens of millions of new people entering a medium, following old opinions and circlejerks blindly, and going along with trends because they don't know anything more about the medium so they're easy for companies to manipulate. Basically they're like a sponge filled with water that companies will keep squeezing for all their worth.

>>14865058

you're correct your retarded

>>14865077

annoyance*, apologies

>>14865091

where did I say anything about hard games?

>>14865094

don't respond to the retard, cmon you know better than this

>>14865058

It can be a factor – if you go in with the mindset that the game will be shit, you are going to hate it regardless of how good it is – but a lot of times I start a game with good expectations, and am disappointed at every step. In my opinion, normalfags like shit because they have incredibly low standards. If you never played a game before and were handed Skyrim, you'd think it the best game ever. Why? Because you never played any better game that you could compare it to. Today's normalfag only knows CoD, bethshit, battlefield, GTA, and Asscreed, and maybe a few indies on top. With a selection like that, of course he'll find the dumbest shit amazing.

Because their minds are pozzed. Imagine: they are the ones that watch ads on youtube and know nothing of adblocks, they're the ones using facebook and instagram and other instant gratification social media, site/apps with also a myriad ads. Imagine being bombarded 16 hours a day by shiny things, from childhood, and your mind slowly adapting to that. They seek instant relief and easily available happiness. Where do you think rick&morty, weed and normalfag memes cultures came from?

They can't help if. If they're being sold something that's colorful, shallow or has imaginary layers of depth (see rick&morty and BBT for virtual intellectualism that makes them feel smart, CoD/walking simulator games that rely on 2deep4you press F to pay respects kind of stories to make them feel a fake sense of heavy emotions, like "i got ptsd from CoD").

The moment you go a bit deeper their brain shuts down, they look at you like a child would look at 2 adults having a conversation and they become literally unable to make complex thoughts, and they fall back on what they know: the phone permanently in their hands.

Press like if you agree.

>>14865058

>does this hold up any water?

from my perspective, it doesn't, i started playing trine 3 with the "it's gonna be good" mindset, then the game ended telling what seemed to be the first quarter of the story, i entered PUBG, with a moderately optimistic mindset, and the game is purely random with no real rules other than the blue zone, and i started apotheon thinking it would be shit but was gladly surprised halfway through

>>14865182

This guy is spot on. Normalfags are not willing to perform any sort of research that takes more than five minutes to complete, not just with videogames but literally anything else. They prefer watching 2 minute-long "top 10 X you didn't know" videos or reading shitty Buzzfeed-tier articles that consist mostly of images and gifs.

>>14865509

Forgot to turn my flag off, my post was genuine.

I have a theory about normalfags and why they post dog pictures and can't use proper grammar.

the reason they like shit is because their IQ is low. It doesn't take much to trigger an endorphin release in the brain of low IQ people, put colors, explosions, cool effects, and you'll have them lapping that shit up.

normalfags are normalfags because they have low IQ, and low IQ people are a huge majority, so they hang around each other and get large social groups which makes them normalfags.

>>14865669

>tfw the only living roaches I ever happened upon were at the zoo

Feels good not being an amerilard living in absolute squalor.

>>14865571

It's terribly distressing to think of this in depth, but such is the penalty for being able to do so in the first place. It's like idiots overbreed to maintain a massive idiot support network, like some sort of psychological and sociological communism. An intelligent person won't leap face-first into uncertainty, and thus doesn't race to have children, doesn't leap at the first car loan offer presented, and doesn't buy mountains of bullshit. Of course, an intelligent person passively threatens idiots, so gainful employment for an intelligent person will be impossible in most locations. This means less money, fewer children, lesser happiness, greater depression, larger number of shotgun sales, lower amount of 12 gauge slug sales, no repeat business.

It may be that people like shit games because there are far fewer instances of failure in them. If the player is borderline immortal, or death is a minor nuisance costing but a few seconds between death and respawning, then the game is deemed as good.

>>14865182

Pretty much all of this.

They're just dumber, it's that simple. Don't try and rationalize it, they don't think like non-NPCs do.

I have made similar experiences with the job creation plan group I am in. The third best among them is scribbling in his adult coloring book all the time. On another occasion, they had stated how he likes to visit L.A., a city that is infamous for its homeless people and semi legal pozzing.

>>14865058

It's absolutely true. It's why marketing and paid reviews are so important.

>>14865710

why aren't you having intercourse right now?

>>14865783

It's not like we're immune to it though. If I read someone here post about how they liked some obscure game it's going to make me want to play it and I'll probably end up liking it more than if I had somehow decided to play it on my own. Sometimes I end up hating it anyway but I always play it more than I would have if I was never convinced by anyone that it would be good. For example Zanzarah or Sigma Star Saga are both dogshit but I played them both like halfway through instead of deleting them after 30 minutes like I should have. And It's not just because I was giving them a chance to get better, I was actually having fun until I realized it wasn't actually fun.

>>14865770

are you a cute girl, anon?

I've continued to play games for the past year with the mentality that the select few I pirate will be good. Only about 1/10 are. normalfags are probably just more susceptible to peer pressure and will brainwash themselves so that they can fit in with the crowd.

>>14865058

People go in for a quick, cheap thrill and get a quick cheap thrill. That's why people enjoy shit like Skyrim. For ASSFAGGOTS and the clusterfuck genre, it's the same idea as buying lottery tickets, but your actions can sway the odds in your favor.

>>14865119

Even if there were better games, even the slightest bit of complexity can scare off normalfags because it requires a bigger investment than what they're willing to put in. They want a game they can pop in and play for an hour before heading to the gym with Craig, which Skyrim with it's puddle of depth achieves easily.

>>14866115

>>14866111

Wait, that was probably not the one you meant; sorry, I don't have it.

>>14866115

>>14866126

It's okay, anon. I appreciate the thought, so bullying will be quite limited. I'm sure another anon has it.

>>14866044

Alas, poor anon, I shit you not.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/7/1/12077498/watching-tv-and-film-in-fast-forward

archive.[thing] keeps shitting the bed, terribly sorry.

I heard Infinity Wars wasn't that bad.

>>14865058

>so, I'd just today thought; do normalfags like garbage like avengers: infinity wars and PUBG because they have their minds set on it being good?

You misunderstand. People don't play PUBG because they think it's good. People play PUBG because they think it's the best battle royale game on the market. That's a huge difference. If you're into battle royale games, your options are currently PUBG or Fortnite. People argue over which one they think is better but most of those people accept that they're both real shit. It's the same logic people were putting out there when NuCom and Xenonauts came out, and how those discussions sort of disappeared when OpenXcom dropped a good release.

Source: every fucking person I know plays PUBG.

issue the " I wanted to like X so bad but it was shit " brakes that logic

>>14866141

>1.5x to 2x

>that's the extent of what normalfags are aware of what's possible

>not using software that allows them to watch at 16x+ speed

I confess to actually practicing this, but I only do it with 3DPD shows where the craft of whatever's onscreen is horrid, if I'm not just extracting the subtitle files or a transcript and reading them in place of watching whatever's terrible. It also means a) I can discern if something's shit in less time and b) I can listen to people blab for an hour in a few minutes and still digest the information. Really helps for educational crap if it's actually educational. For stuff that's either 2D animated or more than 48-60 fps I take my sweet time watching.

>>14866338

They haven't found out about scraping like unv.is, though that allows them to get away with revisionism and lack of accountability, which is Vox and Vice's true intent of blocking archive sites.

>>14866388

I really liked Aldnoah.Zero until the second season started, the first season ended well enough and the second season was just all unnecessary shit that undid everything for no discernible reason.

>>14866398

got it.They really didn't like the first time around.

The bad games you refer to are games that are designed to appeal to the maximum amount of people. Normalfags are defined as a collective of people that almost exclusively consume this content. "Why do normalfags buy normalfag games?" is a silly thing to ponder by definition, like questioning why water is wet.

What can be said about normalfag games is that 1) they have become more shallow over time, compared to the normalfag games of old, 2) they have increasingly shifted away from satisfaction through gameplay complexity and toward psychological trickery, and 3) they are bigger than ever. These things are all related. The design goes toward where the money is, and the money is not in the slow mastery of a game building toward a great sense of reward, but in the easiest dopamine release possible. Mainstream video games are merely merging with the rising trend of mobile/Facebook games in ways that meet both ends.

>>14865058

>a movie is not objectively good or bad

>there is no such thing as facts or truth

>muh relativism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativism

Relativism is the idea that views are relative to differences in perception and consideration. There is no universal, objective truth according to relativism; rather each point of view has its own truth.[1]

"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." - Hamlet: Act 2, Scene 2.

>>14865058

>does this hold up any water?

no. facts are facts, they don't care about your feelings, nor the feelings of anybody else.

lol who cares kissless basement dwelling autistic manchild go get a gf soywojak.png amirite my 4channerz

>>14865876

>>14865571

I know so many people who buy games just to say they played them, then when you ask what they thought of something that happens halfway through the game or something it's "oh I didn't get there yet", yet they still pretend they love the game, one example is a friend of mine with fallout 4, says it's awesome, amazing, steam review with "one of the best games I've played", bought merch, etc, yet he's not even halfway through the game.

>>14866338

Here we have the very definition of a midwit: Smart enough to know the media they consume is trash, but rather than challenge themselves with something more engaging, they lord over it like a scholar of shit. They'll break it down, analyze it down to the sub-atomic level, construct theories about how it works, reconstruct it into novel shapes and structures, but never will they realize that they're just playing with human waste. They could do all these things with something more appropriate and maybe construct something of meaning, but they're afraid it won't translate as well into the world outside the latrine. They'll be exposed as the midwits they are.

>>14865783

>It's absolutely true. It's why marketing and paid reviews are so important.

that is why hillary clinton won the 2016 US presidential election after all those polls and reporters said she had a 95% chance of winning, right?

Normalfags just hate thinking. It's why they love tv and movies so much. They can get a never ending stream of shit piped into their head and never have to have an independent thought about anything. Then they surround themselves with other normalfags to drone on about nothing so they can continue not thinking about anything. Good games and other media can challenge you in a variety of ways that may make you critically evaluate something. You may even be confronted with the horrible truth that you're shit at something, and be forced to improve in some way. This is not possible for the normalfag so they stick to junk food media that is accessible but of little or no value.

Normalfags are good people, better and less worthy of euthanasia than the autistic. They just don't have the mental capacity to understand art, because they aren't descended from nobility or the aristocracy. Pop culture shouldn't exist.

>>14866111

I think the entire concept of souls is Grade-A bullshit, and nobody on this board (outside of those retards on /christian/) should be stupid enough to use the term in any way except ironically.

>>14866376

The issue with this is that a healthy battle royale game needs a lot of people playing it so there is a community and player turnover. Nobody is going to play a multiplayer game that is unpopular and you have to sit for an hour for a lobby to fill up and nobody gives a shit or wants to discuss it.

By this, the only possible correct metric by which to measure it, ONE OF THEM, either PUBG or Fortnite, actually IS the best battle royale game. So half of those people are actually right.

>>14866609

>Look at me, everyone, I don't understand statistics!

You're the guy who sees a weather report forecasting a 75% chance of rain, goes outside, and then gets surprised when he doesn't get 75% wet. Thanks for contributing to this thread discussing people who are willfully ignorant, by being a case study in it. Your contribution is valuable, even when you are not.

>>14865876

>This is one of the reasons why watching streamers has become so incredibly popular

You forgot another unfortunate reason from a different demographic. Lonely faggots who like video games but don't have any friends use streamers as pretend friends

>>14866525

I actually don't subscribe to such relativism, though I can sort of see where my OP implies that I do

i subscribe to absolutism concerning such topics; whether a thing is good or bad is not influenced by people's mere opinions of it

and sales aren't entirely reflective of the buyer's opinions

>>14865770

tits or gtfo

Partially.

The main reason to set the mind for anything to be good without experiencing it first is literally retardation, and partly the cause for normalfags' shit taste and also the case for the mental illness known as "hype"..

Everything is shit, until proven otherwise. That is the natural mindset of a fully functional human being.

This anon summarized the other part >>14866896

>>14867848

see

>>14867199

He's lying.

>>14865876

i love socializing, i just never talk about other shit i love doing, like playing obscure (to them) video games. I go on this website for that

>>14865058

That's really how society at large works. Normalfags buy games and watch tv shows or movies that are approved by whatever media entities or hive mind is relevant in their lives, youtubers, twitch streamers, subreddits, late night show hosts, newspapers, comedians, whathaveyou.

A normalfag would never venture out and pick up some game or show that's obscure or not well recognized. This used to mean that only big name AAA productions in both movies and games with large marketing budgets had a chance, but nowadays the internet normalfag hivemind can also pick up fringe games with substandard production values, like Dark Souls 1, Flappy Bird, Trap Adventure 2, the latest twitch flavor of the month meme game and so on.

Im sure that there is a gigantic industry behind paying off Youtubers, influencing subreddit front pages, viewbotting Twitch streams at opportune times, doctoring popular tweets and so on in a large orchestra to get the next bullshit hyped. It doesn't matter if its good, it just matters if its popular.

>>14867199

I never claimed to be her, you double nigger.

I just like 3D girls. Because I am a normalfag. Now AMA.

Congrats on passing Psychology 101, I hope you're young because it's important to realize that early on.

I realized that in grade school. A popular alpha dude who looked like he's 19 at the age of 12 an would get away with beating the shit out of everyone he wanted to had a fucking N-gage and everyone except me thought it's the coolest shit ever and wanted one. I had a fat Nintendo DS and everyone called it (and me) a piece of shit. Most kids would just parrot the shit they'd read in game magazines without knowing what it means (how can you like this game, the graphics are so shit, they threw too many shaders in there!) while I had the unusual hobby of being obsessed with games from before I was born after reading on gaming history on the internet and becoming infatuated (this was long before the current hipster trend so I bought a SNES online then for like $5), no one even knew what I was talking about but I was too much of a sperg to get normans.

Sure we're adults now and all but the core principles stay.

>>14865591

That's just the fedora crowd, dont mind them.

>>14866115

I don't know why but I keep imagining the example in the last paragraph like this

>normans are discussing selling their trailer

>suddenly, anon waltzes in, trilby and trench coat galore

>panting and sweating, he blubbers:

>"Fucking bluepills, don't you realize you're being mass controlled by lizard people and the Soros?"

>normalfags pay no attention to anon's antics, as they've gotten used to it, and start drawing up a plan of renovating the trailer in order to properly sell it

>"WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO MeEeEeEEEEEE"

>anon storms off back to his room, crying and masturbating to his 2d waifu

I'm probably overexagerating but judging how anon outed himself as a /pol/tard this probably isn't that far off

>>14870303

Well, I can relate.

I pretend to be a normalfag on my daily life, for what other people can see i'm a well adjusted man, but i know i'm playing pretend daily, and despite being pretty good at it nowadays, I'll always feel out of place.

Fortunately, I still have a handful of friends from my school days. I can be myself around them, so that's a nice valve to release pressure so I don't fucking explode. I'm really fortunate.

>>14870102

No you implied it and you're backpedaling when I provided proof, now fuck off.

The only difference between a normalfag's taste and yours is that you've taken the time to refine yours and understand that it's important to do so, they haven't and don't. They either don't have time to devote to sifting through the shit to find the good cos they're dumb (also perhaps old) or they have no fucking idea what's good because they're a neophyte who's only been exposed to shit, hence why these numbnuts watch streaming garbage on Ytube. It's like people who don't know about torrents or not posting every fucking scrap of their data on-line, they're ill informed.

>>14865182

>they look at you like a child would look at 2 adults having a conversation and they become literally unable to make complex thoughts, and they fall back on what they know: the phone permanently in their hands.

As utterly deflating as that statement is, it's true. They use their phones both to hide when embarrassed and on occasion to feed whatever Dunning-Kruger they can muster by searching what people capable of having an intelligent conversation say and then trying to sound smart by pointing out any minor discrepancy with the shit some retard wrote on Jewpedia about the topic.

>>14865058

>my dad told me that I didn't like them because I thought ahead of time that I thought that they were gonna be bad; that I had my mind set ahead of time on the movies being bad

That's what all people with shit taste say.

>turn off your brain

>just sit back and enjoy the ride

>you think about it too much

And then they can't understand it when you say you enjoy something that's truly shit, so shit it's a work of art.

Killer Clowns from Outer Space, Basket Case, etc

They're NPCs.

There exists a limited number of souls, and some souls are used for multiple vessels.

The side effect of using a soul for more than on vessel is that it becomes retarded.

>>14870523

Hobbies and internet anon, find people who are interested in something and roll the dice.

But OP, bad movies are way more fun than bad video games.

>>14870303

i was a blank slate like that now i cant even pretend anymore

because they're stupid

the jews keep the cattle stupid

and only the ones who are genuinely seeking value, question, and judge for themselves rise above the giant, kosher sedative that is society today to achieve self-growth and development in whatever they may enjoy. The rest stay lulled and stupid and conform with mediocrity.

>>14870639

That sounds really fucking miserable, anon. I hope you grow past your childish expectations of what friendship is.

>>14870662

Want to elaborate anon

>>14870662

im sorry you are truly alone, but dont go mouthing off about friendship when you never had one

>>14870667

If the only people that can even qualify as "friends" are people who literally risked life and limb for you, then you're never, ever going to have a connection with anyone. No, I don't believe anyone on /v/ is fit for military service either. Your war buddy who's been through everything with you might very well be a no-taste normalfag with completely different interests and values than you, and then you'd bitch again about being unable to connect with people. Thinking of other people as something more than NPCs might help, too. Deep bonds are not the same as friendship.

>>14870886

Not necessarily someone who HAS risked their life, but someone who wouldn't, someone who would leave you when you needed help the most because it would be too difficult on them is what's called a "fair weather friend", and that's not a friend at all.

>>14870362

I didn't imply anything, you were the one who interpreted it that way. Are you going to ask me a normalfag-related question or are you just going to be a little fuccboi?

>>14870886

>Saying /v/irgins can't get in the military.

Someone here is a newfag who doesn't know who the ROBfag is.

>>14872270

I love ROB's storytimes. What ever happened to him?

>>14872270

Autism is a disqualifier from military service son

>>14872545

>Autism is a disqualifier from military service son

I don't think it is actually. You may be disqualified from being infantry but there's plenty of other roles for people with autism out there like logistics. The DoD is literally the worlds largest employer and plenty of them are fatasses who will never see combat

>>14872545

Stop outing yourself as a newfag and lurk more.

>>14871684

>I didn't imply anything

You did, now fuck off.

>you were the one who interpreted it that way

Because you intended it that way. Now fuck off faggot.

>>14872530

His content degraded and Nintendo was turning into more and more of a shitty company as was the games ROB was playing. He probably would still be around if he stuck to retro shit and stayed away from his biased political humor and the infighting here tbh.

>>14872270

I was in the military, shit's so cash. It was full of people who'd browse this sort of place, one dude was a wizard but lost his virginity after 30, he was also a massive sonygger, spent 5k on a Sony TV, loved his PS3, even brought the shovelware pushed by Sony one dude was a huge fucking weeb with shelves of anime who loved step mania, some other /g/ fags who would autistically argue over coding languages and hardware.

>>14872530

Shitposted off of 8ch.

>>14872530

He was a massive attentionfag and sperged out