296f12 No.14855470
Why don't casuals like challenging games? Is it that they are stupid or lazy? Don't they get the same satisfaction I do when they beat a challenge or learn a new thing? Why do they find mindless grinding or playing with their brain off so fun?
On top of this, why did Darksouls get so popular with casuals when it literally advertises itself as difficult yet they didn't seem to like Ninja gaiden or any of the other moderately difficult games before 2007?
e94699 No.14855481
Playing videogames has become a meme. Also they are extremely retarded, where's that DS webm of the dude not understanding how the inventory works?
acc644 No.14855490
Normalfaggots aren't human, they do not derive any sort of satisfaction from anything. They only pretend to do because they see other people doing it, and those other people also pretend because they see others do it.
c66143 No.14855493
I honestly think San fran SJW review faggots has a lot to do with it.
Casuals will trust whatever game gets a good score or gets a lot of advertisement.
Companies want their games to get good scores but the people who review games don't actually like videogames and just got the job because they knew the right person. Because of this companies have to design games to appeal to reviewers and not gamers. Reviewers don't care about games so would rather watch a movie and so they love games with very little gameplay.
02028e No.14855494
>>14855470
>Why does a game that advertises itself as difficult but isn't actually difficult seeing so much success
Gee I dunno Anon.
8f5313 No.14855497
>>14855490
This but unironically
f46c44 No.14855499
>>14855470
Normalfags are so used to the dopamine rushes that they just need a shot every twenty seconds or else they start thinking unpleasant shit. It's the reason why public order is treated as much higher a security threat than religion of peace bombings.
Older kids and adults through the 80's and early 90's though have experienced games developed by people whose dopamine rushes came from making something ever so better than their last product, even if suits strove to make them as profitable as possible with no qualms about quality. Being hardcore was seen as being the role model, nowadays you gotta be a limp wristed fag to join the cliques.
41fa22 No.14855500
Casuals don't have the thought processes that reward improving at things. They just want to sit around and masturbate. They are likely raised casual rather than born casual.
044529 No.14855502
Define "challenging games".
If by that you mean games that requires three hours of effort before the actual fun begins or multiplayers games that force you to depend on retarded teammates that will get you mad, then you'd have to guess that the average man who comes home tired from a hard day's work with little time left in the day for entertainment would prefer quick and relaxing entertainment before going to bed. Can you blame him for it?
3b972a No.14855503
you had to be born and molded by games. you cant just adopt them like a filthy casual
2da84d No.14855506
Regular people don't have the required autism to waste their time repeatedly failing at children's video games that nobody they know has ever heard of.
08b669 No.14855510
Why don't casuals like to 1cc arcade games? Why don't they want to replay a 20-40 minute game long over and over and over because of all the dying until they manage to figure out a route they need to adhere to as strongly as possible and then clear the game without losing all lives?
8a7003 No.14855547
When I was a kid I didn't have money to buy consoles/games let alone a computer
41fa22 No.14855555
>>14855506
Casuals are casuals in all aspects of life. They never push or strive or compete. They just are.
296f12 No.14855559
>>14855529
>You are saying I don't like games that make me think, you are implying I don't like to think
Well he isn't wrong.
230c2e No.14855566
>>14855470
>Why don't casuals like challenging games?
Anon, when enemies stand in one spot waiting to die,
that IS challenging and exciting for them.
Pic related.
That's also why anything harder than that is always described as being "masochistic shit for super-nerds". When the most basic modicum of effort or thinking is required, it's immediately too difficult for them.
>why did Darksouls get so popular with casuals when it literally advertises itself as difficult
It didn't even advertise itself as difficult as first, the game is supposed to be challenging but fair. The difficulty is just casuals playing something actually challenging for once and having their minds blown. It somehow became somewhat a kind of novelty for them as everyone wanted to try and see how far they could get.
>yet they didn't seem to like Ninja gaiden or any of the other moderately difficult games before 2007?
Before 2007 was before the Big Bang Theory which popularized nerd culture.
c6a6b2 No.14855573
>>14855555
I never thought of it this way.
b94e04 No.14855576
>let's all act superior over electronic toys for children
beaa31 No.14855580
Technology used to be for nerds but now it's for every but the "everyone" didn't get the memo so they think they are a nerd for liking something that is for everyone.
fb94ea No.14855584
>>14855555
>penta 5's
Checked, this anon is right. Video games and games are one of the most developing things you can get into, because they force you to improve at something while rewarding you with qucik fun and satisfaction which makes you crave getting better as long as you are not a casual. Casuals are so distilled towards challenge in general that they consider fucking everything too hard, and don't find joy in improving oneself.
If someone made a game in which how well you do is based on your biological knowledge, while giving people the tools to learn that knowledge while being fun, then believe me that the amount of people with biological knowledge would fucking skyrocket. Imagine for example an autistic but fun strategy game in which you have to know and control the processes that are going on in cell. Shame that video games are rarely used like that.
7c4d0f No.14855592
"Why don't other adults pour as much of their life into toys as I do?"
fb94ea No.14855605
>>14855576
>>14855592
Niggers, it's not about people pouring as much time into vidya as us. It's about casuals playing only the most basic and unchallenging shit and then having the fucking audacity to claim that they are experienced """gaymers""". That's like someone who only played Harry Potter saying that he's a literature fan, that's like every fucking woman who lists "music" as her hobby, like someone who watched Sword Art Online and calls himself an anime fan.
The problem is not that they don't play video games, it's that they claim they do, and because of that, companies start cartering to them instead to people who actually play video games.
Casuals are fucking posers, that's what they are and this is why everyone has a problem with them.
c6a6b2 No.14855607
426875 No.14855609
>Don't they get the same satisfaction I do when they beat a challenge or learn a new thing?
I'm semi convinced that this was just taught out of your system if you're in a certain age bracket.
7c4d0f No.14855614
>>14855607
Hardly. I like challenging games myself but I don't look down on people who have other preferred means of wasting hours of their lives.
f22285 No.14855618
Casuals are raised in a vision where simply participating means you get a reward. They can't deal with actually deserving their goddamn praise. In their minds everyone should be friends and koomba-fuckin-ya. Once you actually grow out of that faggot vision or simply weren't born into it, you eventually develop an understanding of meritocracy. Instead, the "no child left behind" mentality means that the stupidest of niggers gets to have a share of pie at the end of the day while overachievers realize that they are getting Jewed out of a part of it. Tl;dr commies deserve to die alongside their kike masters.
1d40d0 No.14855625
>>14855605
>only played Harry Potter saying that he's a literature fan
>played
I agree with your post but that just made me laugh
6daf2f No.14855632
>>14855470
>>14855470
They do, they just don't know it.
044529 No.14855633
>>14855605
I don't know how you haven't noticed this by now but throughout human history, most people alive have always been braindead masses who're easily swayed. It's a waste of time to ask why they're this way.
Ever heard of the phrase "bread and circuses"?
426875 No.14855636
>>14855605
being too invested into something is still uncool. It's why if you like harry potter/marvel/AAA games/netflix hosted anime you can still be cool but if you explore any of those mediums outside of the base level you're gonna be seen as a fucking dork. Which I obviously don't understand but it's a damn shame that looking further into things that entertained you is frowned upon.
you can go watch the MCU movie but if you look into the comics before it you're gonna get looked at like you have three heads for being interested in it.
fab9ab No.14855644
>>14855633
I have not actually,explain it
5120c4 No.14855665
>>14855529
Who is this? I mean the guy not the whore.
7c4d0f No.14855667
>>14855644
Bread is pretty bland and circuses are fucking gay, so if someone is into boring shit you neg them with "dude I bet you like bread and circuses lol"
If they start to respond make a honk honk noise and call them a clown
044529 No.14855678
>>14855644
An old Roman saying that reflected how easy it is to control the population and "turning their brains off" from more important matters. The government kept the Roman populace happy by distributing free food and staging huge spectacles.
fb94ea No.14855684
>>14855625
Well it almost makes sense
>>14855633
I think I have a simple explanation that might be completely wrong but whatever for why that is, people who are intelligent, charismatic and responsible enough to have children are just simply fucking rare. Usually they only have one of those traits, and if intelligence is the one we're looking for in people, most intelligent people won't get a partner because they're either uncharismatic people with far more other flaws besides their intelectual skills, and probably psychological problems that make it so that they rarelly are able to actually breed. That or they are not responsible enough and realize that having a child is too much responisibility for them and they never have one.
Retards in comparison breed like fucking rabbits because they have no idea of responsibility. The rest is genetics.
>>14855644
In short, if you provide the populace with food and entertainment you can get away with basicaly whatever fuck you want.
c6a6b2 No.14855685
>>14855614
>"Why don't casuals like challenging games?" Was the question in the OP. You seem to enjoy challenging game, casuals don't. A challenging game isn't necessarily one you have to sink thousands of hours into in order to "Git Gud". Most casuals don't seem to want to put any effort forward, period.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder
c6a6b2 No.14855700
>>14855685
Damn phoneposting
fb94ea No.14855704
>>14855636
That's because they are not actually interested in those topics, as I said, they're just fucking posers and don't do the things they do to enjoy them but to have something to talk with their friends. An issue easily fixable by getting better fucking friends who can actually enjoy things for what they are.
5e6c16 No.14855709
>>14855547
Me neither, if it wasn't for the pirates, God bless them for allowing us poor fucks to play vydia.
044529 No.14855720
>>14855684
>people who are intelligent, charismatic and responsible enough to have children are just simply fucking rare
Actually, the smarter and more aware you are, the less prone you are to having children.
It's not that retards are outbreeding intelligent people; intelligent people are just busy with more important things and want to solve problems that they know will affect their children if they ever have any.
5e6c16 No.14855724
>>14855573
Wtf is that anon, juden the game ?
41fa22 No.14855725
>>14855633
It's different now. Even in third world sweatshops the workers making feminist sweaters git gud at sewing to the point their work winds up looking masterful. What we have here is an entire generation in the west that weren't just denied the knowledge of how to improve, but were taught how to avoid improving. On encountering environmental pressures that push them to improve, they've been trained to retreat to a safe space. They're trapped as permanent children and wander around the internet talking about how they "don't know how to adult".
230c2e No.14855728
>>14855502
>If by that you mean games that requires three hours of effort before the actual fun begins
That sounds like a casual game where the first three hours as easy as hell, not a challenging game.
>If by that you mean games that requires three hours of effort before the actual fun begins or multiplayers games that force you to depend on retarded teammates that will get you mad
Fair enough, but singleplayer games still exist.
>comes home tired from a hard day's work with little time left in the day for entertainment would prefer quick and relaxing entertainment before going to bed
Sound more like a movie than a game. A game is a system in which players engage in an artificial conflict.
No conflict = No game.
It's like sitting down and popping bubble wrap.
If that's you're thing, then you do you, but I can't enjoy a game that doesn't fight back.
230c2e No.14855739
1b54d8 No.14855787
>>14855576
>>14855592
Movies and TV are more suited for children. Sounds like you have some growing up to do.
c18d69 No.14855817
>Why don't casuals like challenging games?
The answer is quite simple: For casuals, the satisfaction of overcoming a challenge doesn't make up for the stress of failed attempts at overcoming it. For some Actually, quite many, banging one's head against a wall for upwards of hours on end simply isn't entertaining.
> Is it that they are stupid or lazy?
If either of these, usually the latter. Building off the previous point, casuals tend to use gaming as an avenue to unwind and relax, rather than to challenge themselves.
>Don't they get the same satisfaction I do when they beat a challenge or learn a new thing?
They might get a similar level, but again, refer to the first point. It's a factor of stress-vs-reward.
>Why do they find mindless grinding or playing with their brain off so fun?
See second point.
>On top of this, why did Darksouls get so popular with casuals when it literally advertises itself as difficult yet they didn't seem to like Ninja gaiden or any of the other moderately difficult games before 2007?
Memes. Honestly not sure how many casuals played through it, though. But the fact that "harder" games can still do well in the market shows that it's not completely dominated by casuals. However, given how large the casual market is, big-budget games are practically obligated to cater to them to some degree, in order to optimize game profitability.
dc85a1 No.14855826
>>14855566 (checked)
Normalfags will never not be garbage at video games.
426875 No.14855828
>>14855704
>getting better fucking friends
making friends (at least in real life not online) seems next to impossible once you've left school environments. Everyone has already made their little clique and stick with them because it's frowned upon to try to be friendly with strangers. I might be talking out my own ass a little bit here though because I went the trade-route and I don't meet new people through work and my co-workers are all dudes in their 40s-50s
044529 No.14855837
>>14855728
>If that's you're thing, then you do you
Nah
42b93c No.14855847
>>14855502
the vast majority of "multiplayer" players are actually playing the game without any consideration for the players on their "team" theyre effectively playing a single player game with some bots that are really really bad, some that are okay, and a few that are "cheating". devs know this and they design their games around it. even games like WoW are basically single player games with a less than facebook level of interraction with other people. compare this to irl sports where almost every single thing that you do is entirely dependant on your interpretation of your fellow teammates intented actions. sure you could take the teamwork of the average WoW raider and do that in a real life sport, but youre probably not going to get invited back
41fa22 No.14855855
>>14855828
You need a hobby. Go shooting at your local range. You'll be surprised at how fast you meet people who are genuinely friendly and invite you to stuff. As long as you're white and not some mongrel.
426875 No.14855885
>>14855855
>You need a hobby
I do have hobbies, I play games, work out, and recently been trying my hand at drawing and gunpla. Of course these aren't social hobbies but it sucks that I might have to pay into some other hobby at hopes of making a friend. The only social hobby i'm really interested in is martial arts but i'm probably too old for it now and too autistic to try to enter classes
fb94ea No.14855895
>>14855725
You're right anon and I have a few thoughts on this issue that I would want to share. What you've said isn't true for only the feminists, normalfags, but for aware people and even some of anons as well. There are many people who are well aware that they are like that, and they are suffering because of the fact that they were never been taught how to improve. There is a gigantic problem with psychological health in the world, and no one is talking about it and at the same time, there is a gigantic problem with the lack of values.
For the past couple of centuries, our ancestors mostly manipulated by kikes have spent their time deconstructing every single value of the past, and while that did occur even before them, their ancestors at least left other values in place, allowing people to cling onto something new, improving society as a whole.
The problem is, that most of the values that were fucking INTEGRAL to society, have been destroyed. Let's think about traditional gender roles for example, I'm not going to say that they were perfect, there were obviously people who were uncomfortable with the label they were forced in. But here's the thing, even if there were for example some tomboyish women that would rather act more manly than femminine which is cute tbh, most people were comfortable with the role that they were given, because it fit their biological needs. They told people what they should strive to become, and gave them direction what to do to become better people. We had role models of perfect men and women, that people were trying to become. The past generations did everything they can to abolish those roles saying that they are unfair and that one should be allowed to act however they want. This is not completely untrue, because as I said, those roles aren't completely fair, but at the same time, without them, most people will get lost and unable to compare themselves to a standard that they should follow. What they've gained isn't freedom, they've were only made directionless, because society stopped teaching them how they should act. Freedom is great for adult men, but not so much for children who need guidance, and without that guidance they become lost. When an intelligent child raised that way notices it's predicament, it becomes terrified and often falls into depression because it wants to change but doesn't know how as it was never taught how too. This is how we get many of the anons here
Another example is the deconstruction of God's existence, which isn't even hard to do, but brings with itself a lot of consequences when deconstructed. Because without something that objectively defines what is right and wrong, we lose the ability to rationally criticize someone for their lifestyle choices as there are NO correct lifestyle choices, because what's good for a person becomes completely subjective. Which gives rise to post-modernism which is probably one of the most cancerous ideollogies out there
>>14855720
The effects are basically the same.
>>14855828
>at least in real life not online
Make online friends and do fucking everything to meet up with them. Also this anon >>14855855 is right. This is extremelly difficult for me living in a small village in a slav country, there are almost no places where I can find people doing some hobbyist stuff
>>14855885
Get into /tg/ stuff, it's close enough to your "playing games" hobby which makes it easy to get into, forces people you meet to be at least slightly into it because it's not a popular hobby and is still generally looked at as weird with the added advantage of being social.
426875 No.14855909
>>14855895
>Make online friends and do fucking everything to meet up with them.
My best online friends of many years are all in other countries, I'd love to meet them but it's not affordable, i'm working on stashing money for it though
7400be No.14855917
>>14855817
>For casuals, the satisfaction of overcoming a challenge doesn't make up for the stress of failed attempts at overcoming it.
I have to admit that I've had this feeling with some games, even when I eventually overcame the challenges. Then again, I've played games where I had tons of fun even though I was failing because I was also slowly learning. My thought processes went like this:
>ok, this is fun
>now comes the hard part
>I almost got it
>nope
>that was fun though, I'll try again
fb94ea No.14855952
>>14855917
That's okay anon, everyone is like that to some extent, it's just that casuals are like that to an insane extent. You just have to train your stress resistance, I think that video games might actually be good tools for doing that, eventually you might bring that over to the real life as well.
I myself have problems finishing Baldur's Gate because of how fucking boring it is at times and Thief because I literally fucking shit myself from all the tension
c18d69 No.14855959
>>14855917
In many cases, this can be attributed to good design vs. bad design. In a well-designed game, some semblance of meaningful progression can be acquired from failure. In a badly-designed game, however, various bullshit-tier elements can prevent this from occurring. This can range from abusive RNG to badly-implemented controls. When people are making progression, the point where they say "enough is enough" is the difference-maker between the casual, the hardcore gamer, and everything in between.
As an aside, something else I forgot to mention in my original post is that for casuals, the spectacle tends to be priority one. So long as there is an illusion of accomplishment within the game, the amount of adversity faced between beginning and end is negligible. Which is why you see a lot of "cinematic" big-budget games nowadays. They maintain this illusion, even if breaking down the game to its core gameplay mechanics makes the game appear terribly bare-bones, if even a game at all.
426875 No.14855961
>>14855952
>eventually you might bring that over to the real life as well.
I feel it's helped me a bit because I get less stressed out over having to repeat outside tasks a few times than i used to or than my peers do. Some games do help develop a mentality for "okay that didn't work lets try something different" but of course lots of casuals will try to do the same time 6 times and decide the game is wrong when they fail 6 times
403568 No.14855996
>>14855555
Quints of truth
bdfc34 No.14856011
It's in the name, they're casuals looking for a casual game, you're not going to get a difficult time consuming casual games. also they're fucking retarded who only play shit like cod or fortnite
64aa05 No.14856014
>>14855470
>why did Darksouls get so popular with casuals
because it's inherently bad design difficultly that falls into their LOL I suck at video gaymes! category of covertly poking fun at people like /v/irgins
230c2e No.14856032
>>14855837
>Nah
Nah indeed.
453cd0 No.14856053
I think it more comes down to games journos dictating the tastes kg the general public. A shit game gets 10 out of 10s and suddenly everyone is buying it. Everything wrong with modern video games stems entirely from these faggots. You can't deny it. The average normalfag has no time to trawl gameplay videos AMD reviews for a clear picture of what to play, they just follow the same trends their friends do, and Games Journalists set those trends in motion with their shit taste. Just look at how they shilled for Gone Home and God of War 4. Without a doubt some of the most depthless shit to ever grace the medium yet normalfag ate it up because they were convinced it was good.
These people are hopelessly brainwashed.
230c2e No.14856054
>>14856014
>inherently bad design difficultly
Just come out and say what's "badly designed" about Darksouls.
426875 No.14856056
>>14856014
>because it's inherently bad design difficultly
I hope you're pulling my leg because DaS is actually incredibly simple in all aspects save for a certain few choices. There are very few moments in souls that are mechanically challenging with things like complex inputs or tight frame inputs and everything has relatively simple cues/patterns. casuals only think it's the hardest thing ever because there is an actual punishment for failure. I can bet you that you'd probably fail more times playing a modern COD game as a "competent gamer" than in souls but wouldn't notice because there's next to no punishment for failure in those games. COD is more likely to have the AI fuck you by mass throwing grenades at some shit because that's just what the AI is told to do when they don't see the player for a few seconds
426875 No.14856116
>>14856053
> A shit game gets 10 out of 10s and suddenly everyone is buying it.
do casuals actually read reviews? I always figure they're swayed more by marketing.
296f12 No.14856133
>>14856116
Metacritic is a type of marketing.
453cd0 No.14856138
>>14856116
No bit all it takes is word of mouth. Why do you think fanboys gush over review scores. Hype culture is killing video games. Hype Culture is Game's Journalism's only viable export. They don't even finish the games they review.
85e381 No.14856140
They do like challenging games so long as they are very simple, pick up and play types like Flappy Bird.
afe4b2 No.14856146
They're casuals. It's literally in the name. They play video games for fun with minimal in-depth knowledge of game mechanics involved.
This is not hard to understand.
230c2e No.14856163
>>14856146
>They're casuals because they're casuals
Very insightful anon.
3557b7 No.14856176
>Why don't casuals like challenging games?
Dark Souls and Hotline Miami exist
5d3339 No.14856178
ITT /v/ is Super Saiyan Ubermensch mastering the power of Dopamine™ to perform terrific feats of skill beyond the pale of any casuals understanding or imagination
3557b7 No.14856181
>>14855470
Nevermind I suck dick
afe4b2 No.14856186
>>14856163
Only brainlets can't understand something as simple as what I just said.
d5b673 No.14856202
>>14855555
digits of truth
d5b673 No.14856259
>>14855709
agreed. we had those cracked games that you could buy for 5 bucks (around 1,5 dollars). Any of you guys had those stores like that? Ours was closed for legal issues iirc. I am glad I learnt how to use torrent otherwise I would just stick to f2p games like a 3rd worlder
a70d03 No.14856348
>>14855885
>Make online friends and do fucking everything to meet up with them.
If you enjoy being raped and killed. And/or having the feds trump up some phony charges and put you in the torture chamber known as federal prison.
6965d1 No.14856526
>>14855555
Impossible to argue with those quints of truth
1244f8 No.14856690
>>14856236
That's not a loli.
Also loli's are for patting, not fapping.
426875 No.14856709
>>14856348
>And/or having the feds trump up some phony charges and put you in the torture chamber known as federal prison.
you don't talk and play video games with some one for 6-10 years without eventually figuring out if they're a psycho or not
28ce36 No.14856841
Because casuals play video games as a form of recreation after getting home from their jobs where they do actual work. They don't want to play a game that is so difficult that progressing also takes actual work. It's a TV or movie or going-out-getting-drunk-with-friends alternative; turning the brain off is the POINT.
You wouldn't understand this because you're a nineteen-year-old NEET, like 90% of this board.
296f12 No.14856860
>>14856841
>If you want to better yourself you are a neet
It's the opposite faggot.
What kind of person goes to work and as soon as he gets home and just wastes away? I like videogames because I like the feeling of bettering myself and achieving something. It's the same reason I lift, the same reason I study, the same reason I eat right, learn art, ect.
99c812 No.14856886
>>14855470
Ninja gaiden for the NES is ironically a puzzle game once you learn to spam down attack (i spread some misinfo and thought up attack resets, but pressing down attack rapidly allows you to deal like almost five times the damage), but I think it gets really bullshit when you can only clear some jumps with almost pure luck or with a certain powerup. You can also oblierate bosses with the spin windmill attack as it deals 10 fucking points of damage with each strike.
2867d1 No.14856897
>>14856860
>beating a hard game is bettering yourself
296f12 No.14856918
>>14856897
It is. It's learning a skill that is important to me while exercising my problem solving and reaction skills. It's been proven that videogames count as mental stimulation in a way that tv simply doesn't but it's only true when the game is challenging. It means my mind will likely age well as I get older.
f80372 No.14856920
>>14856841
>mfw 16hr day
>mfw challenging as fuck game
>mfw no sleep and back to work
Its like you're a casual faggot who had his hand held through his entire life.
2867d1 No.14856923
>>14856918
>video games are a skill
296f12 No.14856935
>>14856923
>Reaction time and problem solving aren't skills
Do you laugh at people who want to get good at Chess too?
2867d1 No.14856942
>>14856935
Yes. Chess is an absolutely worthless game that has been stripped down so hard by autists it boils down nothing but preset moves.
426875 No.14856947
>>14856935
considering many games will show you the answer to a puzzle these days, problem solving skills might not be benefited by playing games. Playing competetive multiplayer games might set to earn you more in that department depending on the game. If you're actively trying to find ways to beat other players and trying to see what better players do to improve yourself.
296f12 No.14856967
>>14856947
Well yeah, that is why I was specifically talking about non casual games.
>>14856942
Nice to know you admit you don't ever try to better yourself anon. I bet you feel superior.
21d9ac No.14856972
>>14855470
>Why don't casuals like challenging games?
Because the last thing they want after going to work/school is to work for their entertainment, they just want to be entertained no questions asked. This gets also reflected on the changes that YouTube has received over the years, but that's a whole other can of worms
>Don't they get the same satisfaction I do when they beat a challenge or learn a new thing?
No, that's why they need instructions and tutorials for everything
>Why do they find mindless grinding or playing with their brain off so fun?
Go ask on the Warframe thread, they are experts in the subject
>On top of this, why did Darksouls get so popular with casuals when it literally advertises itself as difficult yet they didn't seem to like Ninja gaiden or any of the other moderately difficult games before 2007?
Because DS was fucking easy, just grab the grass crest shield, the drake sword and elite knight set and you are good to go. Meanwhile in Ninja Gaiden and other games you actually need to remember combos for different weapons, enemy patterns (which tend to be faster) and you get ranked after each chapter
2867d1 No.14856981
>>14856967
I'm so sorry I don't consider sitting on your fat ass outsmarting a program specifically designed to be outsmarted "bettering oneself".
296f12 No.14856984
>>14856981
>Solving problems doesn't help you
Good thing actual science disagrees.
da1f5e No.14856986
>>14855555
""What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?" – so asks the Last Man, and blinks.
The earth has become small, and on it hops the Last Man, who makes everything small. His species is ineradicable as the flea; the Last Man lives longest.
"We have discovered happiness" – say the Last Men, and they blink.
They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him; for one needs warmth.
Turning ill and being distrustful, they consider sinful: they walk warily. He is a fool who still stumbles over stones or men!
A little poison now and then: that makes for pleasant dreams. And much poison at the end for a pleasant death.
One still works, for work is a pastime. But one is careful lest the pastime should hurt one.
One no longer becomes poor or rich; both are too burdensome. Who still wants to rule? Who still wants to obey? Both are too burdensome.
No shepherd, and one herd! Everyone wants the same; everyone is the same: he who feels differently goes voluntarily into the madhouse.
"Formerly all the world was insane," – say the subtlest of them, and they blink.
They are clever and know all that has happened: so there is no end to their derision. People still quarrel, but are soon reconciled – otherwise it upsets their stomachs.
They have their little pleasures for the day, and their little pleasures for the night, but they have a regard for health.
"We have discovered happiness," – say the Last Men, and they blink." - Nietzsche - Thus Spoke Zarathustra
99c812 No.14856989
>>14856972
i think op meant NES ninja gaiden, which I think 3 is the hardest since you have to actually clear the gaem it with one continue, now in the Remake of Ninja Gaiden, you can get by with the dragon sword but if you actually use the entire arsenal of your weapons, the game becomes really easy, like using nunchuinks for annoying gay airborne enemies that hug you or one of the worm bosses, you use the big ass sword and use the big ass aoe move and you always hit them no matter what.
I'm starting to think games with infinite continues aren't impossible anymore.
2867d1 No.14857000
>>14856984
In the 80 or so hours you probably spend on a "hard" game you could do infinitely more productive things elsewhere. No one should be playing vidya to better them self. That's like eating mountains of potato chips to try and get your daily iron intake.
2867d1 No.14857009
>>14856999
if you wanted smug anime girls all you needed to do was ask.
6026a3 No.14857039
>>14856841
and yet u still come here
21d9ac No.14857042
>>14856981
Ever heard of move 78 or the five victories?
d26cae No.14857054
>>14856841
If you want to actually turn your brain off, meditate. To meditate is to literally not think, so why aren't all normalfags into that? Explain that to me, smartypants.
1d1f2f No.14857091
>>14856986
Marxists on suicide watch
9cfd43 No.14857098
>>14855470
I love challenging games but I hate punishing games. I hate Dark Souls with a passion even though casuals seem to like it. Hard games can be found anywhere. What a casual gaymer lack is a personal and peculiar passion or vision in gaming. They're cookie cutters who just follow the popular trends. Just like battle royale shooters and bing bing wahoos, are they casual because they're easy? No, but because they're cookie cutter af.
ef73d1 No.14857118
>>14856461
I'm with him for the most part. I can't stand being timed it just sucks the fun out of any game it's in for me.
51dc0b No.14857143
Its not that casuals hate challenging games, its just that they never hear about them because faggot reviews only pick their favorite "movie games" to shill for.
I recently read an article about a late 30-something rock climber who was addicted to Cuphead, even though he completely sucked at it (the article was comparing climbing to hard vidya). IIRC it basically took him a week per boss… but he still kept at it like the autists here.
So why did this clearly casual guy get really into this? Because a bunch of reviewers liked it, and shilled the game like crazy. You want harder games to be more popular, you don't target the casuals, you target the reviewers.
9cfd43 No.14857146
>>14856461
True for Fallout 1 and Dead Rising, it severely hindered the exploration even though the games have a lot of things to be discovered. Never played zelda, but isn't that game supposed to have a device that can stop time or something?
1d1f2f No.14857149
>>14856461
>doesn't like majora's masks' time limit
9cfd43 No.14857157
>>14857149
>liking zelda at all
a4f722 No.14857161
>>14855529
Truly whoreifying.
15a6b4 No.14857182
>>14855584
There is a game like that though, it's a browser flash game though.
1d1f2f No.14857199
>>14857157
>implying numales even know what majora's mask is
eb7909 No.14857205
>>14855470
Because their boss is a jew, their wife is a bitch that grows fatter by the day, their kids are emulating niggers non-stop, and they want to relax rather than add more stress to their failed existence.
296f12 No.14857230
>>14857000
>He doesn't know about bulking
Knew you were a faggot.
be43c7 No.14857249
a4f722 No.14857253
>>14856116
Modern game reviews are marketing. They are, in large part, paid for by PR and are an extension of a game's marketing campaign. This is accomplished in a wide variety of ways, like threatening to withhold advance review copies if a company's game recieves a poor review, or wining and dining journos at events. Not to mention the straight-up illegal conflict-of-interest shit GamerGate's been uncovering nonstop.
Reviews are ads.
6c3b7f No.14857323
>>14856690
>not a loli
>it says ロリビッチ right on her ass
Nigger can't you even into moon faggot?
77c9c0 No.14857366
>>14855470
Causals like easy games because winning = dopamine gibs, and easy winning = easy dopamine.
The eternal normalfag wants to get high off his own farts, which is why all of these virtue signalling soyboys spend all day virtually prepping bulls on social media.
bdc7a2 No.14857731
>>14855470
They like to unwind and relieve the stress they get from work in videogames. That's it. Not hard to figure out, autismo.
d9ae6e No.14857759
>>14855497
Is.. this true? Selfish robots?
408568 No.14857793
>>14855584
>spoilertext
I'd say that the zachtronics games do a decent job of that. Shenzhen I/O actually taught me a few ways of thinking that made learning C easier. Factorio as well for some kind of algebra, understanding ratios and such.
f541c4 No.14857899
What makes a casual is not an unwillingness to play a challenging game. I've had many a casual friend try out games like Cuphead and Bloodborne and still end up enjoying themselves. Hell, I once talked one of my CoDfag cousins into giving Serious Sam a shot and he was having a fucking blast despite getting repeatedly reamed by Kleers and blue chickenbots. What makes a casual a casual is a stubborn refusal to get gud. I can respect a person who sucks at a game like Monster Hunter yet powers on through the end or at least makes an effort to learn from his mistakes or try new tactics. I have no respect for a person who plays MonHun and bitches about the gameplay mechanics the whole time and ragequits when the going gets hard. By far the worst breed of casual and the one that should be reviled and mocked at any given moment are the faggots that demand that the devs dumb down the games so that their dumb ass can keep up. Some many guides/wikis/resources/etc. exist that allow them to get better yet rather than improve themselves, they must instead complain about the game to the devs until it gets nerfed just for them. Fuck the satisfaction of hunting a Jho or beating a Souls boss when you can just bitch at the devs until they lobotomize the boss just so that Johns McScrubby can not feel like the garbage can he is.
407821 No.14858049
>>14855529
What a cunt. These are the sort of people easy panders to.
230c2e No.14858096
>>14857146
>but isn't that game supposed to have a device that can stop time or something?
You can reset the time limit anytime you want from the beginning. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it will even rewind for you automatically once your time is up so you can't even die from it even if you tried. I guess it would suck if it took you over three days to get through a dungeon but goddamn you have to REALLY suck for it to take you over three entire days. That's why you reset before entering any dungeon; You keep all your key items, so you can just waltz right in with a fresh timer.
89fd98 No.14858133
>>14855470
Imagine for a moment that you wouldn't be living in your mothers basement. Imagine that you are an independant adult with loads of responsibilities. Now, keep in mind that you never wanted these responsobilities, all you remember is that you were a kid with hopes and dreams a while ago and now you suddenly have to care and worry about tons of things and uncertainties. Imagine having a shit job where you spend 8-11 hours every day where you do things you hate, surrounded by people you hate. For many people you can even add family to the equation. A shitty wife with a shitty kid, or maybe your shitty parents need medical aid. This situation is really frustrating to you and theres nothing you'd rather do than getting out of it, but you can't because then your cardhouse of responsibilities is going to collapse. You feel very dead on the inside every day because of this, so what do you do? You use that money you earn on hedonism to feel at least a little bit alive, but at the same time you have to balance your hedonistic impulses with your bank account because there's always that fragile house of cards in your mind that might crumble any moment. This is the condition alot of humans live in nowadays. But you really need SOMETHING to balance the shittyness in your life without crashing everything. So there's videogames, they offer a pretty good "pleasure" to cost ratio. You can spend lots of time with them, just forgetting how shitty your life is. They give you instant gratification, that little pat on your back for very simple tasks which nobody else in your hollow and empty life is willing to give you.
Do you really think someone like this is going to buy and enjoy a game that tries to challenge them? To be challenged means to face frustration, and someone who is in this situation has to use all his resistance to frustration to stay alive on a daily basis. Why would someone like this spend their hardearned money on something that's going to frustrate them even further, eating away at the little bit of mental health they can maintain? Yeah sure, if you overcome the challenge it's going to feel good and meaningful. You will feel like you've grown a bit as a person. But for the average person this sensation is simply not worth the effort
It really doesn't take much intelligence to understand all this, just a little bit of empathy
3d84f4 No.14858460
>>14855470
Normalfags ARE retarded. you have answered your own question.
As for Darksouls, it is POPULAR, yes. And that means nothing. It does not mean that normalfags played it. Most (if not all) of them just bought it, because marketing said to buy it. But they did not even play it, or played just for a few minutes and started saying that they loved it, because marketing also told them to say it.
Never take popularity or the words from normalfags as representation of what they think.
They don't think at all. They are soulless and mindless NPCs in real life.
They repeat what marketing teams tell them to, for each new fad that is artificially created by those.
efd5b1 No.14858489
>>14858133
Not sure if troll or just retarded. When I come home after a long day of making sure the busiest classification yard in North America doesn't choke up and stop running, I don't want some shitty casual braindead handholdy garbage, I want a FUN game to get rid of some stress, which means a challenging game.
There's no enjoyment from a game that isn't challenging. It's like reading a book where the protagonist never faces any obstacles or hardships or problems.
e454f2 No.14858506
>>14858489
its a copypasta you idiot
efd5b1 No.14858511
>>14858506
Not from here, clearly. Halfchan? Leddit? Maybe you should go back.
e454f2 No.14858527
>>14855555
>Casuals are casuals in all aspects of life. They never push or strive or compete. They just are.
I'm sure no-life loser nerds who play obsessively videogames are the true winners and leaders in real life
;)
f46c44 No.14858544
>>14858527
John Cena plays CnC, plenty of older celebs have played WoW and Kim Jon Un has a Steam account, or someone in Pyongyang has it at least. I'm sure there's plenty of normalfag games played by celebs though.
d26cae No.14858557
>>14858544
Everyone knows John Cena is an strategic mastermind.
8f7134 No.14858561
>>14858527
This
>/v/ unironically thinks they are more accomplished for wasting time on videogames than a normalfag with a job
399679 No.14858569
>why are people born, raised and taught to be shit so shit?
idk
0213af No.14858597
>>14855470
The casuals that /v/ usually complains about are not the ones that actively seek out easy games, the ones that don't have enough time to invest into it, or those that don't play that many games. The casuals that /v/ usually complains about are the ones that don't want to learn and wants every game to be only superficially different. They are the first to complain about artificial difficulty and complain about anything that "hampers the experience." These kind of casuals sometimes plays a lot of games. The biggest subsets is the reviewfags. The reviewfags usually has to write a review of a game before or on the date of the game's release so they don't try to learn the mechanics or pay close attention. Because of this inflated sense of self-worth, they are also very dogmatic about game design but also very conformist. With reviewfags, it is usually playing a lot of games for a minimum effort and time with one game from before their reviewing days played in-depth.
0213af No.14858609
>>14858597
>The biggest subsets is the reviewfags.
Not the right words.
<The epitome of these casuals is the reviewfag.
d26cae No.14858655
>>14858597
This Razorfist guy sounds like a huge faggot.
55512b No.14858672
>>14858489
Yeah, but I think the point of that (apaprent) copypasta was that that's not what the average person wants. As midcore/hardcore players, we have typically learned over most of our lives that the greatest reward comes from mastering the hobby. These people are either average joe type guys, dudebros, or total limp-dicked cuck types. The vast majority of all three of those types "just want to have fun", which in their minds means "easy and simple". Where you or I might choose a game like that because we want to space out and play something we would call "brainless", that is the default choice for the average person. Remember also that your typical human doesn't understand the concept of deferring happiness or satisfaction now; so "a little happiness and reward now, over and over again very quickly" is preferable to getting ten times that reward all at once when you finally beat that boss/level hours from now.
41a667 No.14858688
>girl playing with blocks
>girls playing with anything mechanically oriented
that's just a boy with bangs and pigtails. I'm calling it now.
to avoid sageposting:
casuals don't like challenging games because the sense of accomplishment is likely no different from receiving immediate gratification. In any case, both feel good, even if it's to different degrees, and you want it again. Do you know the marshmallow experiment? The one where they have kids sit in front of a marshmallow and are told that they can eat it, but if they wait 15 minutes before they eat it, they will be given a second marshmallow. cool part is that this experiment is a predictor of later successes in life. Kids that could wait the 15 minutes were also the kids who would later score high SATs, low BMIs, and all sorts of shit If the massive slew of media (TV shows, movies, retard-friendly games, and social media like youtube/snapchat/twitter/facebook/etc.) gives normalfags a single marshmallow every 5 minutes, why the hell would they ever choose to wait for the double marshmallow by challenging themselves?
Darksouls got popular because it's not hard. Kirby has a minigame called Quick Draw. Rules are simple: wait until a signal is given, then press the A button to strike down the opponent before the reverse happens to you. If you press the A button before the signal is given, you lose anyway. Dark souls is like the Quick Draw minigame, over and over again. Roll too soon or too late, you'll get hit. Wait too long to stop attacking, you'll get hit. You can go a bit deeper with things like positioning and timing a parry (which is still just the quick draw, but with a narrower window for success), but why go that deep when you can just take another crack at Kirby's Quick Draw? It's not even hard. If you're a casual, all you need to do is to uncondition yourself from constantly pressing the counter button until you reach the end credits of shadow or mordor or batman, and condition yourself to simply wait to press the roll counter button instead. The reason Darksouls was so damned "hard" was because most gamers haven't changed their conditioning from faster action games; the paradigm they were used to didn't work. It was changing their set-in ways that made Darksouls such a hard game.
55512b No.14858698
>>14858688
That's so funny, I was gonna mention the marshmellow test in >>14858672, cheers
d3cf8d No.14858703
>>14855529
women like this should be exiled from society
d3cf8d No.14858708
>>14855684
A person can be intelligent, charismatic and responsible, but simply rather not have children because they do not wish to deal with the responsibility of it, or rather they do not trust the partner to also pull their weight.
d1db69 No.14858712
>>14858597
Have you seen what /v/ plays? And how they play it? /v/ literally can't get anything competitive right, they are among the lowest tiers of players with exception of one fag who dominates them all. /v/ hates casuals because it is casuals.
41a667 No.14858756
>>14855684
>retards tend to be poor since they're best suited to cheap labor work
>when you're poor you don't much resources to take care of the baskets you put your eggs in
>so if you just have many baskets, surely one or two of them will survive and put you in a decent retirement home or just have you move in with them
<smartypants tend to achieve at least middle class, since their contribution is in shorter supply and more favorably compensated
<since they're not poor, they can get away with putting all their eggs in one or two baskets, since they have the resources to ensure those baskets are well taken care of
<they might not even need it anyway, since smartypants tend to save for retirement anyway, so why bother incubating eggs in baskets for all that time?
The real kicker is that welfare subsidizes the retards who get knocked up and can't keep the family together because they've never learned to ignore their urges long enough to pass a milestone towards long term gain.
8518a3 No.14858820
>>14858688
>Kirby Quick Draw
Couldn't 99% of games that aren't turn based, be reduced to Kirby Quick Draw?
>racing games
Take the corner too soon or too late and you hit the wall, try to tackle your opponent too soon and you miss him, tackle him too late and he tackles you.
>fighting games
Block too soon and you opponent does a guard break, block too late and you opponent catches you in his combo, shoot the fire ball from too far away, and the opponent has time to dodge it, shoot it too close, and he has time to hit you with a quicker attack.
>strategy games
Construct building X or unit A too soon, and you don't have enough resources to build something else for some time, build it too late and you opponent is already at an advantage
>platformers
Jump too soon and you don't reach the platform, jump too late and you overshoot the platform, or worse fall off the edge before managing to jump.
>fps/tps
Shoot too soon and you miss the target, shoot too late and it kills you.
>bullet hell
Dodge too soon and you enter in another bullet, dodge too late and you get hit
>action/adventure/cuhrazey games
Block/Dodge too soon or too late, you'll get hit. Wait too long to stop attacking, you'll get hit. You can go a bit deeper with things like positioning and timing a parry (which is still just the quick draw, but with a narrower window for success), but why go that deep when you can just take another crack at Kirby's Quick Draw? It's not even hard. If you're a casual, all you need to do is to uncondition yourself from constantly pressing the counter button or executing the same combo, until you reach the end credits
Just because you can reduce most games to a simple timing mini-game, doesn't meant it you don't need skill in order to finish it. Timing, reflexes and maybe even intuition are skills that need to be trained and maintained in order to finish hard action games, whereas hard turn-based games require more planning and thinking before committing to an attack or action. Note, that this does not mean that action games don't require thinking, it's just that they require quick thinking(having low health and deciding whether to fight the enemies at low health with the risk of dying, or trying to dodge their attacks to pick up a health item on the floor, with the risk of getting hit while reaching for the item), whereas turn based games require thinking at least three moves in advance for you, your party members, your items, spells, the enemies, while also taking in consideration the RNG.
605058 No.14858825
>>14855470
casualfags don't like videogames. They want TV and movies.
8518a3 No.14858832
>>14858820
I should have added, that there are games such puzzle games, that while not turn based(Myst and most point and click adventure games), usually require no reflexes, but just solving a puzzle or series of puzzles. Sure there are segments, where if you don't combine the rubber duck and concrete sword to put if in the fuse box in time, the character will die, but you are usually given plenty of time to solve the puzzle, and most games allow you to save during said puzzle, making the timing almost pointless. I guess Portal is the closest thing to a puzzle games that requires reflexes with placing the portals while jumping.
08d4b6 No.14858854
>>14855566
I've told this story before but:
>coworker kinda friend comes over
>show him New Vegas
>leave him to his own devices
>come back and hes bitching he keeps getting killed right away
>hes literally walking out the door into Good Springs and opening fire on everyone he sees there
>doesn't understand the concept of not everyone you see being something to kill and loot
>try to explain to him the stat based mechanics of the game and why hes getting his ass handed to him this early on
>cannot fathom it at all
>>14855826
Every single cocksucking journalist who says shit like this should be forced to sit down and watch someone who isn't an inept retard play.
41a667 No.14858860
>>14858820
>Racing
an A press is an A press, you can't tilt it slightly and call it a wide curve.
>fighting games
perhaps against AI if you figured out their instructions. against real people, I hear it most closely resembles chess.
>strategy games
I sort of agree there
>platformers
what, do you only play those running games on your phone?
>fps/tps
we talking rail shooters and even the reticle is on rails? You can't move an A press and say it's a headshot, torso shot, limb shot, or a miss.
>bullet hell
As I understand it, this is more like: Press A to dodge, but only at the right pace. too frequent or infrequent and you get hit. Lots of fine movements and pattern recognitions or something.
>action/adventure/cuhrazey games
what, do you only play dorksouls and Devil May Cry? I've never played the Arkham games, but it looks like you can just spam counter and be just fine.
I reduced Darksouls that far to make a point, man. You can't get away with spamming attacks that cancel into dodges with i-frames that span most of the animation, like you can in many other action games. You really do have to time your actions and position yourself. something something, why can you move while drinking potions or shooting bowguns in MH:W
>>14858854
this can't be real
1d7a0d No.14858883
>>14855481
Are they using a sonygger pad?
ffe29f No.14858913
>>14855704
>they're just fucking posers and don't do the things they do to enjoy them but to have something to talk with their friends.
This is a huge part of it. Games (AAA shit anyway) are popular so normalfags will play the ones their friends do just for the social aspect of it, and since normalfags love advertising they play the most heavily advertised AAA move-games that require the least investment in either time or effort. They "play" a game for a day, have something to talk about with their friends, then move on to the next hot release without actually caring about what they are consuming or the medium itself.
310e03 No.14858915
>>14855481
Stop being like a normalfag and learn how to use the word "meme" properly.
Memes are not merely image macros. Memes are not merely jokes, culturally prevalent or not. Both of the above are memetic/can count as memes, however, because they both can be individual units of cultural information passed between minds. They are as much memes as apple pie in America is.
Normalfags are the ones who bastardize the English language out of laziness and have the temerity to call it lexical evolution.
3077a7 No.14858920
>>14855470
People who complain incessantly about casuals always suck at video games.
0213af No.14858933
>>14858913
>They "play" a game for a day, have something to talk about with their friends, then move on to the next hot release without actually caring about what they are consuming or the medium itself.
This. Also, how most FPSs in consoles are gamepad only shows that casuals deserve shit.
0212f6 No.14859477
>>14855529
This video always gets me at the "The game does not tell you where to find grasshoppers" bit. Like how dumb of a bitch do you have to be to not check the fucking grass for GRASShoppers?
>>14856972
If normalfags just want to be entertained, no questions asked. Then they should fuck off back to music and movies. They'd save a lot of fucking money if they did and more importantly they'd be out of my fucking life.
3d35bf No.14859497
>>14855470
Casuals play videogames to be entertained by the videogame.
Others play videogames to find their own entertainment inside the game.
Challenge only appeals to the latter.
0878a8 No.14859502
>>14855470
The answer is in the fucking first sentence retard. They're casuals, as in, they want to play casually. Not everyone enjoys video games to the extent you or I do, and so they don't view spending the time to git gud and beat the game as valuable or fun. This isn't an inherent problem in and of itself as there are plenty of games that cater to this crowd, the problem arises when retard publishers/devs decide they want to cater to the same audience by dumbing down franchises that were previously not targeted at them. Or, when retard journos demand that all games cater to their desired difficulty level. Or, when certain retard casuals claim that a game is bad because they can't beat it. I don't ask Shirtless Brad playing wonderwall in the town park why he doesn't shred like John Petrucci, and I don't ask Petrucci why he doesn't use the same advanced chord voicings as Alan Holdsworth.
83e296 No.14859563
>>14855470
>Why don't casuals like challenging games?
They're casuals.
They wouldn't be casuals is they liked challenge.
>Is it that they are stupid or lazy?
It is in my opinion 100% apathy based.
Intelligence doesn't play as much of a part as will power.
In that sense, yes they are lazy.
>Don't they get the same satisfaction I do when they beat a challenge or learn a new thing?
They don't know that satisfaction because seldom do they find the drive to learn or endure.
>Why do they find mindless grinding or playing with their brain off so fun?
Because it doesn't challenge them with skill requirements or punishing fail states, only dedication is required which itself can often have echelons most do not even obtain that require absurd amounts of dedication.
From there you can get into easy to understand manipulation of them for profit with lockouts, subscriptions, microtransactions, blindboxes etc.
>Why did Darksouls get so popular with casuals?
Youtube personalities and twitch streamers.
Casuals like watching other people play games.
Darksouls was a perfect vehicle to give viewers the feeling of schadenfreude by watching others suffer.
Many of those viewers of course being children.
>Why not Ninja gaiden or any of the other moderately difficult games before 2007?
The paradigm shift of target market in the industry didn't occur until after the 07-08 period of things like social media taking off, smartphone popularity and The Great Recession.
It was a while before things like AVGN gained a lot of popularity.
Videogames were nowhere near as much of a "spectator sport".
It was still "That shit nerdlingers like".
684f3f No.14859579
>>14859563
>hot pursuit is hard
Hahaha what the fuck, I thought this was a fun, but not very challenging game, at least not in single. Driving was quite nice, but you can do it only for do long alone.
83e296 No.14859678
>>14859579
I only saw that because of some old thread that was
>Search the game you're currently playing plus 'is' and post autocomplete results
Most games didn't autocomplete to "is hard" so it really strange.
Can't believe I remembered and found this old webm from 3 years ago.
684f3f No.14859716
>>14859678
Was getting caught a part of his plan?
de543a No.14859842
>>14857899
this is the sentiment I feel towards most modern videogames
Oh RB6(casuals don't like getting fucked up in h2h gunfights they like shooting people who can't shoot back) ok let's remove dropshotting, keep fucking with quick peek tech, nerf SMGs, remove defender acogs, add a shit load of defensive trap gadgets that do damage and force offense to play angles all day before traps/reinforcements/hatches/etc. are removed. All this does for the casuals is make people who want to play the game just more frustrated because once you put these tools into the hands of skilled players they are much better at using traps and using OP gadgets than casuals are so it benefits NOBODY.
This is what I hear from people who play overwatch also they just constantly change the meta all the time to invite more randomness into the game to get the casuals in again before once again the people who are actually good figure all of this stuff out and make the casuals ragequit or derank till they stop playing then the good players are just left with this new cancerous meta that they don't like.
28ce36 No.14860183
>>14856860
>It's the same reason I lift, the same reason I study
Was admitting you're really ARE a nineteen-year-old NEET part of your plan?
>>14857039
That's because I'm God, and omnipresence is part of the package deal.
296f12 No.14860665
>>14860183
>only teens care about health or learning
Brainlet and DYEL lol
f0d6dd No.14860729
>>14855826
I really hope it doesn't give a full experience and takes the piss out of you for not playing on at least normal mode.
3d84f4 No.14860757
>>14858133
Completely retarded.
Your "responsibilities" are all your choice. Either good choices or bad choices (that you, being a failure, blames on other things) that don't "come to you" out of nowhere.
If your life is shit, that is your fault and your fault only, for the bad choices tat you have made or by being incompetent and weak and unable to handle your life properly.
You are the defining of a normalfag: a nobody with shit life that don't want challenge because you fail at everything. Both in real life and in games.
1239be No.14861888
>>14855470
>Why don't casuals like challenging games? Is it that they are stupid or lazy? Don't they get the same satisfaction I do when they beat a challenge or learn a new thing? Why do they find mindless grinding or playing with their brain off so fun?
The short answer is that casuals, at least in the /v/ understanding, derive fun from games as a social experience, while the rest of us generally derive fun in vidya by actually playing the fucking game.
6c1d7e No.14863543
>>14855688
This guy's wife is an annoying bitch.
9f0084 No.14863578
>>14855529
> these fuckin e-girl thots in videogames
makes my goddamn blood boil. Normalfags and betas who wanted the hobby to be "cool" are to blame for this. Fuck them forever.
>>14855555
nice fuckin get Yuge, well said.
>>14863543
dumbass fell for the gamergirl meme and now he's stuck with a cunt of a wife. I wonder if he lost any Good Boy Points™ for saying that he enjoyed Breath of the Wild when his excuse for a wife hated it.
ed7821 No.14863587
>>14858527
>>14858561
I might be wasting my time playing video games but at least I'm not wasting my time making some kike richer
>inb4
who said I pay for the games I play
71fc3b No.14863753
>>14855470
Because after a lifetime of "participation awards" they feel entitled to success.
6ab912 No.14863764
>>14855481
Please don´t say they used keyboard and mouse
558248 No.14863771
>>14855555
Or maybe they just have other hobbies aside from videogames, in which they pust most of their efforts into? You guys realize that videogames is not the only hobby out there, right? Most normalfags I know treat videogames as kind of a secondary hobby. That doesn´t mean they don´t have other things which they put time and effort into.
>Hurr durr, wasting my time on children´s toys makes me a superior human being, hurr durr
ece4f1 No.14863782
>>14855566
I haven't played rain world, but in video games (and in real life for that matter) it's usually safe to assume that anything that shoots at you is an enemy. There's no difference between a "warning shot" and a miss, and in a game 90+% of the enemy shots are going to miss anyway for one reason or another. An enemy that shoots at you and then backs away (maintains distance) until it corners itself is pretty much standard fare for a lot of games too.
684f3f No.14863799
>>14863771
>they just pretend to be retarded when they're playing games!
ddc596 No.14863936
>>14855678
So what your saying is we need the distribution of free bread and to stage deadly roman coliseum style events (now done in existing sports stadiums) to come back?
a206f1 No.14865722
>>14863771
88.14% certain that this poster has a very low T level, and is comprised mainly of soy products.
5cd873 No.14865776
>>14855529
>if there's no numbers on healthbars i cant tell if the boss is within my damage range
have you tried simply hitting the boss and check by how much his hp visually went down?
5d0a32 No.14865936
Because the line between Challenging and Tedious is a tenuous one to avoid stepping over, and it certainly doesn't help that the "challenging game community" is the kind of autist that can't understand the difference between the two
89676d No.14866251
>>14863936
>Bread
<Welfare
>Roman Coliseum
<Sportsball/esports
047d79 No.14866723
same reason they like simple moves. they believe TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF LMAO is actually a thing.
ddc596 No.14867231
>>14866251
The bread = welfare part is pretty true, but sportball doesn't have as much bloodshed or death as Roman Coliseum events. No sacrificing to the lions, no woman getting raped to death by a giraffe, no elephant's writing out verses in latin, no asymmetrical gladiator battles. Gotta keep the public on its toes.
41a667 No.14867306
>>14867231
TV and movies. Normalfags consume this shit like nothing else except maybe junk food
ff0cd5 No.14867334
>>14865936
Yeah, the constant masturbating to Dark Souls demonstrates this pretty well.
3d0bff No.14867361
If you were to normalize any player into a bell curve based on skill, you'd find, of course, that the majority of players is of average skill.
No surprise there, of course, but the key is that in order to derive fun from a game, it must be challenging enough to engage the player while simultaneously not being too challenging as to dissuade the player from trying again.
Thus, the average player must play a game that is challenging to their skill level, and that shit is leagues below what a decent player would consider challenging to their own, the idea gets even worse when you consider the top players.
Since there are more average players than not-average players, most games are catered towards them and not the top performing individuals.
It's not that they don't find it challenging or anything, they most likely genuinely do. It's just that, from the looks of it, you're just above the average player. Congratulations, I guess? Here's your complimentary cock rub.
Oh, also, the only reason DaS got popular was because of its fame. Sort of a vicious social cycle, those that did complete DaS got their abstract social points from "muh I completed dark souls!!! am ahrdcore!! xd", which in turn led more people into trying it for social points and making it more famous which in turn… You get the idea.
541b68 No.14867495
>>14856461
>super luigi U
And presumably every other platforming mario game in existence? Have they never noticed the timer right next to the score meter? Or is the time limit in this one more strict? And dead rising? Come on, you have about 12 hours to finish the fucking game and once you get past chapter 2 the game becomes more lenient with the timed events, you can safely grind, collect good weapons, stock up on health items, rescue survivors and get some silly clothes before the game even warns you that you only have one ingame hour left to be at a certain place or do something specific, besides it's not like you even need to grind in this game, just grab adam's chainsaws, the 3 durability/damage books, 4 bottles of orange juice and you're set for life, even better if you get the jumpkick ability early on.
541b68 No.14867528
>>14867495
>>14856461
And dead rising has an endless mode too, so why the fuck is this retard complaining?
3d84f4 No.14867876
>>14865722
>>14865936
Low T abominations exposed.
ddc596 No.14868150
>>14867495
New Super Luigi U has a 100 second timer (but with shorter and more hazard filled stages) compared to NSMBU longer levels and timer.
When >>1485646 complains about MM time limit I hope he not one of those tards who only thinks it's 3 days (with no resets), I found it interesting when the 3DS remake was released Nintendo's promos had to reassure people you could "reset" the cycle of 3 days because there really did seem to be people out there that thought that.
The only annoyance of MM time limit was not knowing when the next owl statue save point was coming up when playing the first time and deciding whether to save and quit playing now or keep going when you have real world time commitments I had to get ready for.
896c35 No.14868239
>>14867528
I don't think faggots like him have actually played the games they list.
9f3bf1 No.14868454
>>14857146
You have to reset the time repeatedly to finish the game, anyway. The time limit doesn't really matter and is just a means to fill a tiny space with tons of side quests. Majoras Mask is full of content that can be easily missed if you just focus on completing dungeons.
d44c22 No.14869990
There's been a lot of these kind of posts in this thread so I have a question of my own. How come so many of you struggle to play challenging games simply because you have a job? I have a job and I still beat them. Usually during the weekend.
129e03 No.14870024
>>14869990
It's just an excuse of being bad at managing your free time
d8dcab No.14870061
>>14855470
Casuals hate to compete because they fear losing. I know because I used to be the same way as a kid. It started and ended with the wilderness in Runescape.
>>14855555
Checked and keked, truer words were never spoken.
5187ea No.14870113
>>14855481
>Playing videogames has become a meme.
I never thought about this before but now I saw your post, it seems obvious.
5187ea No.14870214
Definition of a video game: A video game is a leisure activity based on computer peripherals (LCD screen, joystick / joystick, speakers, …) to interact in a virtual environment according to a set of predefined rules.
Source: Not my ass
ffe29f No.14870301
>>14869990
Could just be an an excuse. You might play less games overall with a full time job, but that doesn't mean the difficulty of them has to drop too. It also depends on the type of work though. My job isn't very stressful, but I've had a few hard days where afterwards I didn't want to spend any more energy on something challenging. You get some shit job and you may just not want to put in the effort for your free time.
88cbfe No.14870358
>>14856461
This pisses me off the most. Dead Rising was built around its time mechanic. The game is fucking tight and every minute you got to breath felt rewarding. I bet he's the kind of retard that only does the cases and leaves every survivor to die because he wants to mindlessly kill zombies
7c335a No.14870377
>>14855470
> Darksouls get so popular with casuals
because dark soul is casual.. at least from the 2nd. i stoped from there. it's just artificial difficulty.
d44c22 No.14870392
>>14870301
I do understand that people have different circumstances. I mostly just watch tv, play multiplayers and browse the internet when I get home, to be honest. I just don't get the black and white view people seem to have about everything. "If you do X then you can't do Y".
9c9fd2 No.14870417
If a game is too hard then it ceases to be a game and becomes a job.
There is also a file line between healthy, organic difficulty and the following:
>Tweaking the numbers in your enemies' favor without changing the gameplay mechanics at all
>Leaving in bugs like inconsistent visuals and calling it a (((feature)))
>Confusing rng playtime-padding bullshit like unlucky spawn locations with difficulty
The problem isn't just that players grew casual. Why do you think they grew casual? It's because developers forgot how to make difficulty mean something.
15a6b4 No.14870469
As others have said before, casuals have a casual mindset.
I remember watching a politician destroy another politician's career with proof of corruption.
Do you know what the normalfags thought of the incident? They thought the first guy talked too much. They didn't care about the corruption or the money he stole. Their entire understanding of the issue was "Duurrrr, the first guy says a lot of words".
They are genuinely cattle and deserve everything they're going to get.
ae5fca No.14870473
>>14870358
Not only that but even if you do every single event and rescue everyone there are still points in the game where you have nothing to do but fuck around and kill zombies and play dress up. That time limit is so fucking lenient that you have to be a fucking retard to run out at any given point.
0213af No.14870674
>>14870653
Why do you post like a giant faggot? This is beyond meme spacing.
f06223 No.14870709
>>14870691
Or you just stop memespacing
7b6c6b No.14870720
>>14870653
I don't know what's worse, the shit content of your posts or the shit formatting.
a1de31 No.14870733
I know you are all memeing, but a well-designed game does not require many repetitive deaths to understand and complete. That is a plain shit.
8f32a7 No.14870772
>>14855724
David Cage's Beyond Two Souls
338e00 No.14871890
>>14855555
Quints of truth strike again.
a693d5 No.14882065
>>14855470
Becauzlse games are meant to be fun you autist.
12c6c2 No.14882194
>>14855529
it tells you to cut down grass on the loading screens im pretty sure
>>14856986
complacency and a boring life are what's destined for the normalfag
No doubt all while high on weed
8cd9ed No.14882364
Normalfags suck at videogames.
Normalfags don't want to pay $60 just to lose constantly.
5b81a5 No.14892738
>>14882364
Normalfags are actually ok with wasting money on games as long as they're hyped it.