/v/ - Video Games

>Pathfinder

Oh boy, I wouldn't put much hope in this.

Should add that it's a one of those Balder's Gate style old school crpgs funded through kickstarter

>>14854963

How pozzed is it?

>>14854972

I don't know the specifics but some guy involved with it when on a big spergout on I think RPGcodex about sexual equality and tranny magic.

>>14854981

one of the main characters in the pathfinder metaplot is a tranny, in a world with magic where one can just magically change sex, this character is a tranny.

>nigger in promo art

no thank you

>>14855002

Well shit does anyone know how much of this is in the game?

>14855032

I'm betting 10 bucks the nigger is also the tranny.

>>14854970

>one of those Balder's Gate style

probably end up a flop then, just like PoE2

>>14854972

Despite the system being fun, Paizo is pozzed as fuck, where every instance of their "good" aligned characters are either gay, a tranny, or somewhere in between, and any sense of sexual repressions is characterized as instantly evil.

Any game set in Golarion is guaranteed to be SJW-infested shit. Stick with PnP RPGs and adapt the ruleset into a homebrew setting.

>>14855055

what is going on with that arm

>>14855075

it's a dude's arm

>>14855055

>adorned in screaming faces

>dick sculpture hanging between legs

Oh fuck I never noticed this before

>>14854972

When asked if the game was going to be propaganda, they deflected by claiming that Amiri the Barbarian iconic was going to be in the game and that this would infuriate people who hate SJWs. Avellone said in an AMA that the game is extremely LGBBQ friendly, explicitly noting that the core Pathfinder universe is, which implies that there may be more direct transsexuals. Base-level virtue signalling tells me that it's going to be absolutely filthy with propaganda.

>>14855002

Don't forget about the angel of genderfluidity and it's cult of homosexuals who liberate people by jerking them off.

>>14856286

Delete this immediately

Jesus Christ and I was looking forward to this game. Is there no RPG these days that isn't pozzed to hell and uncensored, for fuck's sake.

>>14856704

Tranny's have taken over the world, nothing is not pozzed in this day and age.

>>14857141

Rtwp, i've seen the videos.

It's so close to what I've wanted for 10 years, but I know that it's going to be infected heavily with poz.

>>14857163

nice. aside from the nigger archer, i hope they play it safe with everyone and not pull deadfire's dialogue choices

>>14857179

It seems to be low on the purple prose, I hope it stays that way.

Pathfinder and all versions of Dungeons and Dragons are shit. Prove me wrong.

>>14857236

No, it isn't. Tabletop RPGs are fucking trash, and only get worse when adapted into computer RPGs.

>>14857188

check out tyranny, its bretty good except for the ending.

>>14857251

maybe youre playing turn based shit anon. rtwp, imo, is the best adaptation of tabletop rpg combat on a video game.

what other options are there anyway? tes's damage spongey combat? le based real time action-based combat ala witcher 3 or souls games (where all you do is roll)?

>>14857163

>It's so close to what I've wanted for 10 years, but I know that it's going to be infected heavily with poz

now you know how i felt when they released the infamous mutt images from battletech

>>14857426

Another good point of Pozfinder, some classes have been rebalanced to not be shit.

Arcane archers actually advance spellcasting now, paladins get a better smite evil, monks get a variety of buffs.

>>14857279

Combat which isn't based on the outdated shit that is Tabletop. We can abandon that shit already. Developers should have realized that when fucking Quake came out.

>>14857547

Nu-com is pretty popular though, and it's literally Scifi D&D. So you're wrong.

>>14854957

I'll keep monitoring this, because I enjoy the Pathfinder system, and I could go for a good Baldur's Gate-style RPG, since that's pretty much my favorite genre. I'm just hoping the poz won't be too bad. I can tolerate some as long as they don't rub it in your face.

>>14854957

>has a nigger

>has women in the front, taking leadership

>pathfinder

/tg/-tier cancer

>>14857584

>Nu-com

>literally scifi d&d

nigger what

>>14857211

>>14857251

>>14857547

Hello underage ADHD queer

>>14857584

>Nu-com is pretty popular though, and it's literally Scifi D&D.

Jesus christ

>>14857674

So you've never played Nucom or D&D, good to know.

Because the similarities are so obvious that playing both allows you to easily draw comparisons.

>>14857708

I can kinda see the comparison if you're talking 4e, but I can see a far better comparison in the squad based ttg sorta like spacehulk, malifaux, or infinity

>>14857707

Give me one good reason people should still play tabletop "games", aside from the classics(chess, non-whale bait card games, crokinole, etc.)

Rage of Mages is great though. I hope this goes well for them so they can do more of that.

>>14857792

roleplaying

>>14857792

Quality time with friends.

>>14857792

Give me one good reason people should still play any "games" at all. Why should people play chess, for example? We have Crusader Kings 2 and a plethora of strategy games both real time and turn based that are far more in depth and complex than chess. Chess is outdated and developers should have realised that when fucking Dune 2 came out.

Fuck off back to ResetEra or wherever you came from, kiddo.

>>14857897

Rage of Mages is also 20 years old.

>Two white women front and center (well a woman and an elf, but elves are hardly a far cry from human)

>Black KANG inbetween them

>White man off to the side

>KINGmaker, two of the prominent poster characters are female

Just from that poster you can tell its pozzed/10.

>>14858541

Women are the main audience for cRPGs. That's a well known fact, just ask BioWare and their "80% of ME players played as male Shepard" or Larian crying liberal tears only 4% of their playerbase was female.

Some enterprising soul should try and start a shitstorm on tumblr because neither woman is a nigger, and both are thin and projecting unrealistic standards of beauty. Where are all the plus sized adventurers?

>>14855055

so progressive, but such a shitty backstory

>shamanic abilities led to her family exploiting her, other families exploiting her, and eventually led to a tribal conflict that she wouldn't even take sides in, subsequently leading to accusations of heresy

tranny or not, can you call yourself a proper dwarf with a story like that crap? What kind of dwarf goes against her family like that?

let's see if I can't shit out something better:

Dwarf couple get in debt to a demon for whatever reason, firstborn son owed when he comes of age, etc. They've been hiding Shardra by dressing and raising him as a girl hoping to trick the demon, demon's not falling for it and shows up shortly before the coming of age ceremony at which point it is revealed that Shardra is about to drink an elixir of sex shifting.

Family is relieved, demon is thwarted and goes off to plot, and Shardra goes adventuring a year later to defeat the demon once and for all so it can never threaten her family again.

bonus complication: Her mother's pregnant again so enjoy that time limit

Evil entity thwarted and wringing his hands in contempt without requiring 20th level combat skills on a level 1 character

Family honor intact

Character not a pariah

Quest seed introduced

Easy. And I suck at writing

>>14858559

>Easy. And I suck at writing

Or, you know, we could simply not feature faggots, trannies, traps, and the rest of degenerates in the game, or if we do feature them only as targets or ridicule and scorn.

There, problem fixed.

>>14858560

The sooner they do the sooner Western vidya dies a well deserved death.

>>14858565

>Or, you know, we could simply not feature faggots, trannies, traps, and the rest of degenerates in the game, or if we do feature them only as targets or ridicule and scorn.

If they're going to feature them, they can at least try to make them interesting instead of self-unaware pity cases

>>14858570

>self-unaware pity cases

That's the only way you can feature trannies and faggots, since their existence, both in fiction and reality, solely revolves around their disgusting fetish.

>>14858581

I am firmly of the opinion that fantasy need not reflect reality

>>14858588

Okay, let's play a game. Come up with a plot/quest reason to feature a faggot in your game without it having to do with his faggotry.

>>14858595

Inherently you cannot unless his sexuality is a separately determined factor that has no impact on the plot/quest.

Either you have to come up with something that directly addresses it and integrates it organically like I did here >>14858559 (in which I utilized an old European traidtion of dressing male children as girls until they come of age, though in Europe's case it was to prevent them from being abducted by the fey), or you have to roll dice after the fact, making their sexuality superfluous to the immediate quest and their primary role in the story, but opening up sideplot content

However, while it is difficult to include homosexuals in a meaningful way that is not simultaneously hamhanded, it is quite possible to make a quest where it is downplayed such as, say, a well-to-do fag noble must hide his sexuality for X reason and requires a female in the party to pose as his beard for an event

I'm against forcibly shoving needless social justice elements into pop culture just as much as you seem to be, but if they're going to do it they can at least make an effort to not make me hate the character at first glance.

There are plenty of ways to make a character more than their sexuality. A pity the people writing gays haven't found any

>>14858541

>>14858553

Thanks to Bioware, RPGs have spent the longest time just being glorified dating sims so putting women on the cover would be the most honest thing they could do.

>>14858622

>in which I utilized an old European traidtion of dressing male children as girls until they come of age, though in Europe's case it was to prevent them from being abducted by the fey

And what has that to do with faggotry or trannies? The boy is never anything but a boy, all he is doing is wearing a disguise to fool the supernatural and keep him safe. You could just as well dress him in a monkey suit, it wouldn't make him a furry.

>a well-to-do fag noble must hide his sexuality for X reason and requires a female in the party to pose as his beard for an event

And that's about the only kind of plot you can feature a faggot in. A tale of woe where the poor pederast must hide his lust for underage boys so the evil, bigoted heterosexuals don't give him the lynching he richly deserves.

>but if they're going to do it they can at least make an effort to not make me hate the character at first glance.

If they weren't shoving Marxist propaganda in their game they wouldn't include a faggot to begin with. There is no plot requirement that necessitates the inclusion of a faggot. You only shove them in the game when you want to virtue signal.

>There are plenty of ways to make a character more than their sexuality

Not with faggots and trannies. They are their fetish. There is nothing to them but their fetish, it is their whole life. They are simply soulless AIDS carriers.

>A pity the people writing gays haven't found any

You know what the "best" written faggot in games is according to many? Arcade in FNV, and even there his faggotry has pretty much nothing to do with anything to the point he might as well not be gay for all that it impacts. He's the best written gay character in vidya, and even then he's simply another virtue signaling puppet.

>>14858624

Bet you anything one, or both of them, are dykes and you can't romance them if your character is white and male.

>>14857211

There is literally nothing wrong with AD&D, you just have shit taste.

>>14858622

>There are plenty of ways to make a character more than their sexuality. A pity the people writing gays haven't found any

And they don't find any because when you make a character more than their sexuality, their story becomes about that "more" and not their "sexuality", and to the point where you might as well not mention their sexuality at all.

Oh thank goodness there's a black man in the background, I feel represented enough to be a consumer for this game. Gotta get that nibba market that plays table top, HUGE untapped audience, thanks devs for forcing inclusion and diversity.

Same for the 2 womyns. Phew no bigots making this. I hate advertisers. They ruin everything.

>>14858782

I wonder if he has since been hunted down and castrated for his transgressions.

>>14858782

They probably get money from the Sanfran clique through government aid, they don't need customers when they can just steal money from tax dollars.

>>14858541

Whenever I see a black posted in the front or anywhere you know this shit was done because of a quota. Period. It's like those movies that feature lots of blacks as CEO, yeah how many of them are actually CEO in reality? It's an inversion of truth to change neurological pathways in your brain to normalize those ideas. You have to constantly reject it in your brain and speak out against it.

>>14856704

> Is there no RPG these days that isn't pozzed to hell and uncensored

make one. don't rely on strangers to make nice things.

>>14857925

Chess improves with age though: it's a game which is timeless, and has been played in some shape or form since the 3rd century. It's a game which, according to its own fans, does not decrease in quality when translated into computer format, and supplied with an algorithmic computer player. I have heard from many a Dungeons and Dragons fan that computer roleplaying games lose the 'feeling' of playing Dungeons and Dragons, the aforementioned roleplaying element. The fact that it can't be retooled for solo-play is the reason why it can't hold on for much longer.

In 100, 200, 300 years, do you really expect anyone to be playing the trash which is Dungeons and Dragons, GURPS, or whatever PnP RPG? No, because both games are garbage and severely limited to the culture of the 20th century. They're already dying off now, as swarms of faggot Gen-Z-ers turn to them in a faux nostalgia driven up by faggot shows and movies which feature the horrible game.

>>14858835

>real time with action pause

It can work, 7.62 for example has a highly complex combat system that is in real time that works very well, but I have no illusions these leftist cucks are actually capable of implementing a system that isn't complete shit.

>>14858862

Chess is starting to show its age though, virtually all possible permutations, during each phase of a match, have been analyzed, to the point being a professional chess player is less about strategy and more about rote memorization of moves and counter-moves. It's why computers are so good at it, there is a limited number of possible moves that can be used at any given time to win a match. There's actually been a few attempts to "spice" up chess by changing or tweaking the rules in recent years.

>They're already dying off now, as swarms of faggot Gen-Z-ers turn to them in a faux nostalgia driven up by faggot shows and movies which feature the horrible game.

They're dying because the people making them are leftists, and like anything made by leftists, it's horrible trash that nobody finds appealing, least the people that actually are interested in tabletop.

>>14858858

i remember in empire earth i made a full campaign that our national hero in the philippines got resurrected (brain was actually preserved) that empowered the country into becoming a total super power rivaling the US and china kek. i played the shit out of my campaign

Wait, Kingmaker, right? So…it's an RPG and Kingdom sim?

>>14858782

Oh I bet the dev's force inclusion (thereby destroying any immersion or flow of the game), there's no doubt. No pennies are going to these companies from me. They just don't know about lost consumers like me. There's something totally wrong about having an international diversity within a fantasy tribal society. It doesn't make sense, people with such different genetic separation actually living in the same village acting like this divide means nothing.

>>14859287

I have a hard time believing it will be any more involved than a couple of canned events where you not so subtly decide which of two or three monarchs you want ruling the land at the end of the game.

Basically, it doesn't matter about the coluh of your skin goy! See dat blackie? He too adorns the robes of a knight, and see that woman? She too is a strong independent warrior with armor. Anyone and everyone can fit into this class, because not only is our game marketed to all peoples for profit, but our entire ideology demands that these people wear the same exact generic armor. Because they can, and are too the archetype of the modern man(peoplekin).

There is no tribe to visit ingame which is sufficiently different from the character you chose, where he hails from. Every village is the same, its all 20% asian, 20% black, 20% "white", 20% goblin, 20% otherkin. The story is ruined, every village is like going to a metropolitan center where you have a mixed bag of uglies that you don't want to listen to their story of trying to get around in the daily life of shithole village #5.

Nobody is unique, nobody is special, because everyone is celebrated and your character is noble, has the potential to right the wrongs of the supposed, fantasy world.

>>14859366

>to right the wrongs

Are you saying there are problems in the multicultural utopia free of hate that don't stem from white men existing and breathing still, bigot?

>>14859357

>general site buzzwords

>>14859354

It's apparently based off the tabletop version of the game. So it might be interesting. I'll have to read that version amd see what happens.

>>14859357

Looks like a trashy mobile game.

>>14859375

I might have accidently implied, upon re-reading the last line, that you can right the wrongs of the dev's forced diversity in this game by making a Kingdom of no peoples of color. But who knows, I doubt they would give that an option, being able to decide who can be a citizen in your "Kingdom".

>>14859490

Are these really magical, or are they still axe wound to crotch style mtf 'magic' sex changes?

Is there really a fucking need for tranny and faggot characters? I mean we are talking about pathfinder and to an extension D&D where there is a belt of fucking sex change, since it is considered cursed the fucking thing is cheaper than buying 10 chickens.

>>14859472

Pathfinder tabletop is one of the worst systems though. It's like you took 3.5e and somehow tried to make it worse in every way. Clerics? Make them more OP. Fighters? Make them even more useless past like level 5

>>14859990

Pathfinder is anti-mundane. Just look at monks.

>>14860039

monks are hated in every edition of every pnp game though

>>14854972

Well let me show you with an example of the Wrath of the Righteous adventure path, my friend:

You have a character named Anevia Tirabade, she's a woman married to an orc. The orc is also a female.

>That is not that bad though

Anevia Tirabade used to be a guy that paid for a magical sex change. I'm not fucking kidding this is an actual plot point in her (his) character.

>Well that's pretty pozzed, is there anything infuriating about it?

Well he paid for his sex change by FUCKING SELLING A HOLY RELIC TO A BUNCH OF DEMON WORSHIPERS, this, mind you, caused a massive fucking demon uprising that destroyed the city almost in its entirety.

And to add insult to injury, the book specifies that this is a Chaotic Good character, and you should give this information as if it were something actually perfectly reasonable to do.

So… does anyone know how much customization will the game have? To make the unholy mixture of an alchemist and barbarian.

>>14858835

>>real time with action pause

Literally the best possible combat system for a party-based RPG there is. Turn-based retards need to kill themselves.

>>14861028

Anevia is known for several feats of unquestionable goodness including, but not limited to:

>Breaking into some dude's house only to discover he donates to charity and worships the good boy gods, only to incriminate him anyway in order to not look stupid.

>Force herself in the personal life of an elf, who was formerly a very good friend of hers; this later escalated to shit, the elf's wife cucked him so he divorced her, he became an alcoholic and is right now what's basically a /pol/ user.

>The aforementioned selling of a relic

>Numerous acts of burglary and even alledged arson.

She (he)'s not a good person.

pathfinder is gay and pozzed as fuck

>>14857251

>>14857211

>I have no friends

Hi /v/

I'm starting to think it was called Pathfinder because the makers are lost sheep with no clear moral compass.

>>14861068

>her

Stop that /tg/. It's a dude.

>in order to not look stupid

How can a writer be this lacking in self-awareness?

>>14861263

Magic is magic. We ain't going to explain shit.

>>14861268

I don't give a shit about magic. If you're born a guy you're a guy, no amount of make believe bullshit will change this fact. Stop enabling the mentally ill and their leftist handlers.

>>14861281

Don't be like those faggots and expect RL explanations for magic and faggotry. Leave fantasy for fantasy.

>>14861281

Would you accept illusion trap magic that just makes a guy look like a girl?

>>14861295

>play along with tranny bullshit because it's "magic"

Kill yourself.

>>14861311

Traps are gay and need to be gassed just like every other faggot.

>>14861317

I'm not asking if you think it's gay, just asking if conceptually you can accept the concept of illusion magic that can visually transform someone? Being fooled into being attracted to traps isn't gay, getting fucked by/fucking a trap is very gay.

>>14858835

much better than turn based where you control only a single character

>>14861333

>that can visually transform someone

But that's not what the /tg/ cuck is arguing for. He's saying that magic giving a degenerate a vagina means he is now a she.

>>14861385

Oh yeah, I know, I'm not trying to shift goalposts or anything gay and not backing up what anyone else is saying, just asking a separate question. I'm a /agdg/fag who likes making RPGs and I'm wondering how someone like you who opposes transgender magic (which is fine, you're not wrong in that it's enabling a mental illness) would feel about say a cursed ring that made you visually appear as a woman when worn. Do you feel that's still too far or is it fine because it's simply an illusion, also logically does it make sense to you that illusion magic could do that?

>>14861028

isnt robin hood the prime example of what a chaotic good character is

>>14861405

>Do you feel that's still too far or is it fine because it's simply an illusion, also logically does it make sense to you that illusion magic could do that?

Depends on how it's handled. BG2 had a cursed girdle that could change your sex when worn, and Edwin, a party member, could turn himself into a woman if his magic backfired, but it was all played for laughs.

Since it's magic I'm ready to accept that it can do that, but it also begs the question of why you'd include something like it in the current year. What purpose is it supposed to serve? You could just as well make it so it can turn you into another man if you're a man and into another woman if you're a woman just to fuck with leftists and trap faggots.

>>14861441

Yeah, but he's chaotic good in the non-retarded, non-leftist sense of the word.

>>14860818

>>14861028

>>14861068

I'M JUST STARTING A CONVERSATION

>>14861430

You make a good point about what it says in current year. Honestly I just think of it as a funny item much like the BG2 girdle. Also it might make a good spell for deception, when I think illusion magic I always think of what Agent 47 would do with it and sexy girls can get in a lot of places burly looking warrior dudes cannot. I'll keep in mind it's about how I use it, would be funny to turn it around as a commentary about how easy women have it in terms of things like security and suspicion.

>>14861459

>and sexy girls can get in a lot of places burly looking warrior dudes cannot

So have a female protagonist. I'd play a Hitman game where you're a grill and get to wear all kinds of sexy costumes and disguises and user female charms to navigate the environment and lure enemies into ambushes.

>>14861469

Also

>would be funny to turn it around as a commentary about how easy women have it in terms of things like security and suspicion

Just make it obvious she's physically weaker than a male, struggling to subdue males when choking or knifing them, having trouble moving bodies, etc.

>>14861469

That's a good idea, when I make a stealth game (and I will, I'm a huge fan of Chaos Theory and would love to make something like that, mix in some Blood Money) I'll give keep it in mind.

>>14861441

yeah i know im just saying that the chaotic good from the other anon's pathfinder story is fucked up.

Never played a DnD game.

Why is pathfinder consider pozzed? The game surely is based on that image alone, but why is the source material SJW bait?

>>14861642

Have you not been reading the thread?

>>14861452

You don't think taking from the rich and giving to the poor is leftist?

>>14862215

Robin Hood did not steal from the rich indiscriminately. He worked for a monarch.

>>14862215

Seeing as he gave it to his own people rather than Saracens, no.

>>14857517

Oh boy, pls don't open that can of worms. Pathfinder II is supposed to fix a lot of the glaring balance issue, but it hasn't come out yet as far as I know, anyway.

the Kingmaker module was bullshit. You're only in control of your own kingdom from levels 4-6. Levels 1-3 have you chasing bandits out of the area before you can truly begin (this is fine). At level 7 the module takes a turn. The party, the only people running the government of the town you've created, all leave for a neighboring kingdom you've never heard of until now, where an evil wizard has taken over. Yes, at level 7 this town management simulator suddenly turns into a dungeon crawl in a place you have 0 investment in.

As soon as you return home, you're told another neighboring kingdom you that you don't care about has been invaded or some shit. The party has to go over there and kick out the invaders. We were now 4 chapters into the module, and only one chapter had us actually working on our town. That's where we quit and switched games.

>>14858732

>Good. The idiots that don't cater to their market will die and be replaced by new studios, or the nippon industry. Either way, your games can only flop so many times before even goliaths like EA die.

See, that's kind of the problem: They're trying to do what Microsoft did to the vidya industry. Rather than make games that appeal to the audience they already have, they're trying to drag a new crowd in to appeal to because they think it'll be more profitable. When Microsoft did it, they hammered on it for months and fell back on the warchest that they'd already built up when the profits weren't rolling in. Then Halo I and II came out, and the 360s started burning out and the lasers started damaging the discs, and they were basically printing money with all the normalfags buying replacements at a fairly regular rate.

Some shill manager confessed to it on half/tg/ a few weeks/months ago. Apparently, they sent handfuls of posters out to shit on people who excluded new players or displayed elitist attitudes for a couple of years, and I think they started posting links to threads in non-imageboard sites so they could hammer the impression of an open and inviting tabletop gaming experience. You know, some idyllic scene where oldfags and grognards were mocked for being neckbeards and the cool players were the ones teaching people to sling dice.

>>14862428

> The party, the only people running the government of the town you've created

What? The module explicitly expects you to recruit NPCs to run the government. It was actually common historically for kings to lead their army in the field.

>>14862536

There were more governing roles than players, so yes, you were expected to have a few NPCs alongside the players running things. You're missing the whole point though, just like the module writers. I could play any other module if I wanted to dungeon crawl while hunting an evil wizard. It was completely out of left field for this adventure, and not what any of us wanted. They should have had us hire a bunch of red shirts instead of sending the entire bridge crew.

Remember, none of the players are the king. The actual king gave you the right to settle your land, and he's the one who sends you to the neighboring shithole. Why wasn't he leading the army? Why didn't he find some other adventurers that weren't busy running a city? It made no sense.

>>14862419

/tg/ here, Pathfinder 2 looks like absolute shit. It's just backporting Starfinder rules that sucked ass so bad that the only games you can find for Starfinder are "adult roleplaying sessions".

>>14861642

Pathfinder is great if you only play the game. Their campaign books and stories are absolute SJW, and they're all of very dubious quality, like the campaign where your band of adventurers literally travel through a portal into 1900s Russia where you assassinate Rasputin. Oh, and when someone in their campaign books is gay, they make sure you know.

>>14861642

The official setting is full of trannies, queers, and other obnoxious cunts that the official adventures demand the players respect or be considered evil and punished. You can just ignore it and write your own stuff, but why would you want to play a system made by people who hate you? The rules aren't pozzed, but are shit for entirely different reasons (amplifying some of 3.5's problems and adding a few of their own).

If you want d20 play Fantasy Craft or 13th Age (haven't played the latter myself, but have heard good things).

>>14861695

Parts of it then i went to sleep. I figured i'd wake up and read some TL;DRs

>>14862783

I didn't even know DnD had campaigns, i always thought players made their own stories. As for the gay part of course they let you know, why else would they choose to be gay :^)

>>14863108

Is this pathfinder new? I remember the newest DnD being called pozzed when it was released, was it pathfinder or another version like 4.0 or something? I guess even niche games got pozzed over time, and it's no surprise as i see normalfags trying to get into nerd culture more more, but i didn't expect it to be on tranny paladin raping children to make them gay because satan made them straight levels of poz.

>>14859799

One of the most infamous items in AD&D was the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity. It completely and permanently changed the sex of whoever put it on (with a 10% chance to remove all sexual characteristics) and required either Wish (50% chance) or deity-tier magic to negate the effects.

Of course both WotC and Paizo pozzed the shit out out of it in later editions

>3.0/3.5

Not even included

>PF

Changed to a "Girdle of Gender" whose effects are largely the same as earlier but the magic can be removed like any other curse and the belt is removable once the magic has taken effect. CL 10th.

>5e

Also changed to "Girdle of Gender" and is now a wondrous item instead of a cursed item. 25% chance of working correctly, 25% chance or misfire, 50% chance of doing nothing and the changes can be dismissed by taking the belt off.

So basically there is absolutely no reason for trannies to exist in Pathfinder, even moreso than actual D&D - the magic item that produces a permanent sex change is not only reusable but apparently only requires a 10th level caster to create. Even assuming that you'd incur the usual item creation costs as it's no longer a "cursed" item (and is instead outrageously expensive, in the neighborhood of ~60,000GP), it's still not a hard item to create and any church that would go in for that sort of thing could have one.

>>14863145

>Pathfinder

>Niche

Pathfinder was basically 3.75E and stole 3.X's thunder in the biggest possible way. Then 5e came along, Pathfinder's player base plummeted and they're playing catch-up.

Has Pathfinder always been this pozzed from the very beginning? One of my coworkers is a fan, and bought the new rulebook and the new battletech. I want to suplex his ego through a table for giving those trannies money.

>>14857547

>first person shooter mechanics

>in a party RPG

Were you constantly dropped on your head as a baby? And I man 24/7?

Never waste time or money on marxist bullshit.

Spread the leftist behavior of it's creators to normalfags, so they won't waste time or money on that shit.

>>14854972

It's got the title Kingmaker and a nigger in the crew, no doubt very

>>14860761

>since they need to rely on

it depends, the bigger devs like Obsidian absolutely don't need kickstarter, they only use that as free money and a way to gauge interest

>CRPGs are just not popular anymore

While technically true in the bigger scheme of vidya as a whole, it's mostly that they put out shit products like you mention, there's a few exception here and there like Divinity OS games and some indie stuff

>>14863145

The tabletop scene has been slowly getting more and more politically correct since Wizard's of the Coast acquired D&D, but at around 2007 or so when ginger camelface and the Star Trek faggot started getting shoved into everything it really went tits up fast. I think the social aspect and ability to make up your own rules causes it to be such a popular vector for hipster scum.

>>14854981

Tranny magic's an RPG staple. Well sort of, theres always that one belt that gives you a cursed sex change.

I still wonder what happens if you get pregnant with one the cast remove curse and remove it. Is it magical abortion, absorbed into the belt, violently expelled, or still inside you?

>>14863711

>I still wonder what happens if you get pregnant with one the cast remove curse and remove it.

Why do you assume pregnancy is a possibility?

>>14863730

Thats another possibility. For all I know the ovaries are filled with sperm and cocks jizz out eggs.

Semi related question, how pozzed is Pillars of Eternity? I'm a couple hours in and shocked none of the party members are female.

>>14863736

That looks like pantyhose, anon

>>14855055

What sort of concoction makes a benis disappear?

>>14864241

you shouldn't worry about it being pozzed, it is to an extent but a lot of those are avoidable

you should stop playing because it's just not a good game which is an even bigger sin. At best it's mediocre

>>14864604

Soylent.

>>14864241

Been playing for about 40 hours, haven't romanced anyone yet by accident.

>>14864653

Yup, it's above average i'd say. The way encounters are sometimes handled, lack of spells for the wizard and some other things make it a mediocre game. But the party members won't jump on your dick by accident, so that's good, I guess.

The story is pretty nonsensical at times and there's plenty of bullshit difficulty spikes showed down your throat, I don't really mind those.

So all in all, mediocre.

>>14864836

For you and all the other faggots saying: "Just ignore the bad parts!" or "It's all free online anyways!" I would say that you should just play a different fucking system. WotC and Paizo are both deadset on pozzing their games, meaning any support you give them, even just through word of mouth and telling people to play it anyways, is supporting their furth aims to spread their cancerous faggot ideology. They're literally trying to force a consensus by making this shit so ubiquitous that you're not allowed to be angry when they dedicate more and more of their books, cards, and other products to virtue signalling about how amazing shitskins and trannies are.

Just go play something else. Stop being a battered housewife and take the fucking time to find a better alternative instead of sucking the hipster dick and then pretending it's okay because you didn't swallow.

>>14865014

The ruleset is shit because it's built off the worst version of D&D an continues to reinforce the worst kind of retarded murderhobo habits in players. The setting is a problem for a different discussion, but Pathfinder itself is nothing special and does nothing especially well. It's a pile of crap, but you're trying to rationalize it as a pile of crap that's worth everyone's time if they just pick out the bits of corn and peanuts.

>>14865014

I mean, the setting and the ruleset are kind of intertwined. Golarion has arcanists, shamans, and witches. It has oracles, psychics, and summoners. It has all these little things that, if you change the setting, you either remove their setting-specific classes and put up with Mr. CharOp's whining, or you just slap a slightly different color of paint on the default Golarion setting and say "But there are no trannies here, or any of the magic items that are specifically for tranny magic."

>>14864836

>As thoroughly pozzed as the Pathfinder universe is, and it's really fucking pozzed, you could always ignore most of it in your own homebrew.

Or you could just play a better game.

>>14865546

>This shit is why you have to vet devs and spend your money wisely, because if you don't, these faggots will end up at the next big game dev conference preaching how games need to embrace marxism.

You could spend nothing and they'd still do that because they are funded by institutions that push it. Do you really think Wesley talks about D&D nonstop because he actually likes it?

>>14854972

The promotional picture has a caster in front of a sword and board user seemingly for the sole reason of having the two females in the front. That should really tell anyone everything they need to know about its agenda.

>>14865546

>like trying to buy a chunk of property on the border to stop Trump's wall

The government can forcibly expropriate your property if it serves the "common good" in most legal systems, all they need is to recompense you for it. And even if that's not possible in Burgerland they can just build the wall around his property. But I forget, leftists are fucking morons.

And I agree with you, /tg/ has this big problem where they continue to believe that if they ignore the problem it will magically go away, when things keep going from bad to worse while they sit idly by. They're like /co/ in that regard, since they simply refuse to raise a shitstorm unlike that autist that exposed all the sex offenders on WotD's payroll in his sperg crusade after getting banned.

>>14865610

It will be shit. That one sentence where the developer says that a barbarian woman that wanted to be a warrior and not a housewife isn't political says everything you need to know about the game. There was no reason to include such a moronic backstory since the setting already has women in every possible role and position of power, they only did it to virtue signal.

>>14865563

It's one of those problems that starts in places like Silicon Valley, then creeps outward. The fruit that plays Wesley probably does think he likes DnD, but not the kind that's played outside of his weirdo coastal city hobby shops or away from his podcast buddies' tables. And he's probably not aware that the Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity was regarded as a joke/punishment to be unleashed on people who didn't let the wizard cast Identify before he put the damned thing on. Instead, he sees it as an indication that trannies were present in 2nd Edition ADnD.

Coastal cities and Silicon Valley and all these weirdoes pushing these weirdo ideologies think they have the "true" version of the shit they corrupt.

>>14865632

>And I agree with you, /tg/ has this big problem where they continue to believe that if they ignore the problem it will magically go away, when things keep going from bad to worse while they sit idly by

Actually, I think it's very much the other way around. I'm surprised to see so many people on /v/ speaking on /tg/'s behalf saying to just ignore the pozz when the actual /tg/ currently has a thread about which companies to dump and why, and likewise, why it's not okay to just ignore it. /tg/'s BO even came out and straight up said he doesn't even want people to waste their time with WotC's games, but that he won't stop them from discussing MtG and D&D if that's what anons want to do.

>d&d sucks because hurr sjws

>pathfinder sucks because hurr sjws

so what is there left to play? maid rpg?

>>14865563

Institutions eventually stop investing if there's no interest in that product. Drop the poz

>>14865649

>>14865650

That's not how it works with leftists. The Jews in power will keep funneling money to them, be it through private investments or government grants. The Jews don't care about the money, they've spent the past few decades amassing vast quantities of it (and printing even more) to use it to subvert, corrupt and demoralize white countries in their never-ending quest to exterminate the white race.

>>14865649

There are literally hundreds of systems out there that don't have AIDS.

GURPS, early editions of D&D, oWoD, WEG Star Wars, etc. If you're dead set on d20 generic fantasy, go with Fantasy Craft.

>>14865649

Maid RPG is pretty fun. You've also got Tenra Bansho Zero, Double Cross, and Golden Sky Stories if you're an unrepentant weeb.

If you want D&D, play older versions that are out of print and circulation without purchasing from WotC. All the older designers who made the original games are retired, dead, or quit anyways, so it's not like you're stealing money from them by not "supporting the devs" (which is retarded reddit shit anyways). There's also a whole pile of OSR and Retroclone games. Fantasy Craft if you have to play an OGL/3.5 game.

>>14865663

Vidya and tabletop aren't exactly on the same level. The biggest successes in the RPG, CCG, Board and Wargame industries don't even match the minor Triple-A releases in terms of profit and sheer sales figures. Won't solve the problem if they do pull back when it's clear that /tg/ shit isn't a fertile ground to spread poz, but that doesn't mean it's not worth it to ditch as much of that shit as you can, anyways.

>>14865649

GURPS is still okay. Shadowrun has some pretty unusual ideas, but the rules are sometimes embedded in the retarded stories they tell to demonstrate gameplay. Try as they might, they can't wreck older editions of DnD because they're harder to find players for. I don't believe Mutants & Masterminds has been wrecked yet, but only because it's not as popular as some of its contemporaries. That's about it for the modern major players, as far as I know.

/tg/ used to have regular threads about less-popular games, and would occasionally hammer out new ones for testing purposes. I remember one called Crucible that fell into the latter category and eventually got published. Halo got a system that was wrought on the board, too. Dungeons: The Dragoning 40k also got made by a handful of anons, and was surprisingly well made, even if it wasn't balanced in the slightest.

>>14865649

If you can't control yourself from consuming their products, then they will control you. They're at a point where they ban you for offsite behavior, they're not going to stop there. If you buy the left's products, ask yourself if you want to sell your freedom as well.

>>14865649

The d20 system is pretty much steamlined to the point of being effortless to use. Just give the DM enough time to fully homebrew a setting and go from there. Steal mechanics that you think look interesting and ignore the dumb shit.

>>14865649

A short list: Avoid DnD, Pozzfinder (and its spess setting Starfinder, Onyx Path's Chronicles of Darkness.

If you want fantasy, there are hundreds out there (if you want LotR then get The One Ring). If you want modern fantasy or cyberpunk then Shadowrun is okay, but it is a gear porn so it might not be everyones schtick. If you want World of Darkness, get old edition VtM. It is Gothic-Punk/Bible-Punk when punk still used to mean something (tough son of bitches) and not a honeypot for proto-otherkin and SJW.

>>14867050

I mean, the rulebook doesn't really go out of its way to shove trannies and feminism in your face, from what I recall. The formatting is admittedly garbage and they bury rules in stories, like I said in >>14865684 , but that generally frustrates the freakshow people more than it does the dedicated nerds.

Community managers and their ilk are almost always trash, no matter which company you're talking about. Their whole job is "Watch this Twitter and Facebook account for us and don't piss off the Internet," and this limited responsibility is almost always given to the biggest retard in the company.

>>14865709

Talislanta is patrician taste.

>>14865649

Pathfinder should be avoided for more reasons then just the SJWs. The bad writing makes half the shit you're reading just feel like a slog and not get to the fucking point in the first paragraph, mechanically everything that doesn't use magic is gimped so hard that it makes Fighters fun to play in 3.5e vanilla, everything outside non-magic stuff is still imbalanced so badly that after the first 4 levels it starts to lose itself fast, and finally the art is shit half the time.

>>14868398

>You won't win by boycotting it, you win by being a saboteur and dragging people out of the poz.

I'm not even sure that's true anymore. I used to try that, but suptg got hit and hit hard by the Paizo bandwagon. Attempting to gather players there would net you ten applicants, five of which would say that they won't actually play whatever you're running unless you switch to Pathfinder. The other half would be people that don't know how to play whatever you're running because they don't run anything but Pathfinder on suptg, people that can't string together a sentence to say their lives, people who just really want to play a custom furfag race in your game, people that just want to play LOLEPIC /tg/ SCREENCAP characters they read about, people that actually know how to run the system you advertised for but will be driven out by the other retards who applied, and LordLicorice himself, who's just looking for reasons to remove your entry because he just wants his site to disappear.

It's like dealing with a gang of alcoholics who simply don't want help and hate you for trying to offer it.

>>14858581

I mean you can also feature them as demonic entities whose trans-ness helps underscore the fact that they're twisted and depraved. See: Slaanesh.

>>14868538

Work small. Make your own community and drag people out one at a time. Leave the furries though because they're 50% of the reason PnP is as corrupted as it is.

>>14868398

>perverted garbage

I wish. The realm of the erotic at least has SOME fertile ground for interesting mechanics and stories. Things like species differences, sexual dimorphism, cultural norms, and reproduction could all have really fun impacts on a game setting. Particularly if you have magic involved that can temporarily or permanently affect one or more aspects of those rules. I mean, I understand not having sex determine stats anymore simply because it's already tempting enough to min-max or power game with race choice, but clearly a game world is more interesting when not EVERY society has 'current year' politics. Or at the very least not portraying every example of 'traditional' roles as evil and oppressive (particularly when the reason the woman stays at home with the child is because the fucking gnolls are close enough to be a risk).

The problem is that instead of a detailed description of something like Lizardmen social and mating habits explaining that they don't allow visiting males of other species near their females past sundown because that's mating time, and that the female lizardman in your party is likely either taking a specific drug or causing herself discomfort to combat the effect. We instead get stories of a dwarf female that didn't need no man and was able to get every accommodation her clan could give, including biggest penis. Rather than a roadmap that shows all the places that you can take a character, they want to just have the directions written down that take you where they want you to go. You would think there would be more interesting stories if you explained that orcs can't tell the difference between male and female elves, or that catfolk don't consider anyone a true friend until they've fucked regardless of sex. Or maybe, just maybe, a matriarchal society that's actually pretty fucking horrible to people?

>>14868920

Perverted garbage as in perverse towards rational sensibilities not as in erotic fiction.

Although nearly everything the liberal does revolves around cummies anyways so that interpretation is not far off.

>>14869032

I'm somewhat reminded of the recent bullshit about "Lando is Pansexual!!!" garbage. Starwars is a massive science fiction universe where even on the most backwater failure of a planet a person is going to grow up around dozens of different species of alien. Additionally, it's a universe that has had that kind of setting for thousands of years and most people seem to adopt a single 'culture'. The idea of 'pansexuality' is just fucking retarded in that universe. It's like saying that it's 'shocking' that a person in the UK would have sex with someone from France.

Now that I think about it, this is pretty much an easy test to see if something is post-modernist bullshit or legit world-building or even just pornography. Just take the amount of 'gender rolls' in a description and determine how much of it has any affect what-so-ever on 'how do I fuck this?' in the setting. If you get a three page breakdown of how the minotaur tribes view 'men and women' in society but learn absolutely nothing about what you might need to seduce one or the other, then it's almost guaranteed to just be SJW political dog whistling. A well designed world, or even just fucking pornography will at least give you concrete details like 'Minotaur females will trim their horns down as a sign of femininity and prefer non-penetrative intercourse for fooling around and only allow penetration for baby making' that would at least be concrete details of the world that the player or DM could theoretically use for something.

Mind you, if someone could tell me some way to use the fact that this particular subset of elf women are from a caste of men who drink the holy menstrual blood to shed their identity and be born as women warriors that are peerless throughout the land, I would love to know cause it just sounds stupid.

>>14868920

Christ you've got some shitty ideas

Are there really no people on this site that have played the beta?

>>14870907

>paying for the beta

From videos I've seen, it plays like any other RTWP.

>>14865649

Play video games instead. Tabletop is dead, and that's a good thing. Video games are better than them in every way imaginable.

>>14873518

Shiiiet